I got the Icon with a coupon for $25 two days before the coupon expired. A couple of days later it was $40, so my timing was perfect. I don't think I would have paid 40 bucks for it, even though it's probably worth it. I have other kits so I didn't absolutely need it, but I am using it all the time. I'm going to buy a 1/4 socket rail to keep with it. I thought the ratchet was a little too stiff so I did something to wear it in very quickly. I put a straight 1/4 Inch bit in it and put my DeWalt impact driver on the other side, then I spun it fast in both directions a few times. The ratchet still works great but it is not as loud and it turns easier. It did heat up a little bit but I stopped before I trashed it.
FACOM: 180J31; R1PICO TOPTUL: GADW3401; GADW2701; GADW4501 KS tools: 918.1590; 918.3015; 918.3005 MAC Tools: MRBD4 VIM tools (longer better): RFB400K; FRBS89 ICON: 58074 USAG: 606 ¼K SIDCHROME: SCMT12143 SMAT0: SM-RBS9F (senza traversino) Variants with fix ratcheting head PRESTACYCLE: B082H5TSPN and without pass through extention TOPEAK: Rocket Ratchet Lite GRANITE: Stash RT GTKS21TL-01 Rocknroll Mini kit GTL18RR-01 POPLOCK: PL-23301-MR-SL BUDNITZ: Ratchet Rocket Multi-Tool KS tools: 914.1495 SONIC: 102801 KRAFTWERK: 4004R2 Alibaba: AWIH001 If inside a repair Kit you also need a multitool definitely avoid Leatherman craps and proprietary bits. If you want solve at first shot: Get a serious Victorinox SwisstoolXplus 3.0339L instead. Inside the leather sheath you also get a ¼ standard bits ratchet + extension + some bits + some empty slots. the corkscrew and glasses screwdriver... getting one reference and adding only bits and sockets required you are done in a sturdy and very compact portable package. You end up using it 200%. not like Leatheman Free P4 ruler... and those stupid unrealistic engineering made only for marketing purposes You will not regret a single cent. If you want a very decent multitool here and there better than a leatherman Wave accepting ¼ bits at reasonable price for a lower budget: Ozark Trail Multiforce premium 18 in 1 (by wallmart) Swisstech 18 in 1 HX Outdoors GQ-17A Mossy Oak 17 en 1 this models are all made by Hangzhou Great Star Industrial Co.LTD and are quite good for a fraction of a Leatherman Wave. Remember you have to put a 6mm magnet inside the foldable driver. and add the bit ratchet set you prefer through those you are considering.
I have the Vim. It’s a perfect companion to my Wera Tool Check Plus. The added length and capabilities of the tool really improves the versatility of the Wera.
I too have the VIM version and like it. My bet is they are all made by the same Chinese (or Taiwan) manufacturer with slightly differing stamping/machining options for each branded name, a very common practice.
I think common sense should be applied here.... Different size drives exist for a purpose - No mechanic would apply "that" much torque with any 1/4" drive ratchet
@@AstroVanTribe The point is not common sense,The point is, for example, that not all 3/8" wrenches or ratchets in the world can handle the same torque, that does not exist, that is why some are cheap and others are very expensive. Torque is only a specification that a mechanical tool can withstand based on the quality of its construction.... and about the common sense of a mechanic pro: ruclips.net/video/jfflEZAOWps/видео.html
ICON is too short. It fits in the box but I didn't need or want another box and I have more than enough bits. The VIM comes with the adapter and extension and easily fits in my toolbox.
I can’t speak to prestacycle, but Harbor freight is paying VIM royalties on this bit ratchet. It’s all made in Taiwan but VIM does own the patent on this design.
VIM does not own the patent. These are all made by a company in Taiwan called Hi-Five. The company is owned by Bobby Hu, who used to work for GearWrench and designed their ratcheting wrenches.
No they don't, it's made by HI-FIVE and FACOM was the 1st to offer the flex head at least 10 years ago. All the bit ratchets marked " REVERSE GEAR " or " 1/4 GEAR " ...etc are all made by HI-FIVE. I believe Topeak may have been the 1st to offer the Prestacycle style version, and VIM was one of the early adopters of the box wrench style version but not the 1st and they don't own the design.
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I got the Icon with a coupon for $25 two days before the coupon expired. A couple of days later it was $40, so my timing was perfect. I don't think I would have paid 40 bucks for it, even though it's probably worth it. I have other kits so I didn't absolutely need it, but I am using it all the time. I'm going to buy a 1/4 socket rail to keep with it.
I thought the ratchet was a little too stiff so I did something to wear it in very quickly. I put a straight 1/4 Inch bit in it and put my DeWalt impact driver on the other side, then I spun it fast in both directions a few times. The ratchet still works great but it is not as loud and it turns easier. It did heat up a little bit but I stopped before I trashed it.
FACOM: 180J31; R1PICO
TOPTUL: GADW3401; GADW2701; GADW4501
KS tools: 918.1590; 918.3015; 918.3005
MAC Tools: MRBD4
VIM tools (longer better): RFB400K; FRBS89
ICON: 58074
USAG: 606 ¼K
SIDCHROME: SCMT12143
SMAT0: SM-RBS9F (senza traversino)
Variants with fix ratcheting head
PRESTACYCLE: B082H5TSPN
and without pass through extention
TOPEAK: Rocket Ratchet Lite
GRANITE: Stash RT GTKS21TL-01 Rocknroll Mini kit GTL18RR-01
POPLOCK: PL-23301-MR-SL
BUDNITZ: Ratchet Rocket Multi-Tool
KS tools: 914.1495
SONIC: 102801
KRAFTWERK: 4004R2
Alibaba: AWIH001
If inside a repair Kit you also need a multitool definitely avoid Leatherman craps and proprietary bits.
If you want solve at first shot:
Get a serious Victorinox SwisstoolXplus 3.0339L instead. Inside the leather sheath you also get a ¼ standard bits ratchet + extension + some bits + some empty slots. the corkscrew and glasses screwdriver... getting one reference and adding only bits and sockets required you are done in a sturdy and very compact portable package.
You end up using it 200%. not like Leatheman Free P4 ruler... and those stupid unrealistic engineering made only for marketing purposes You will not regret a single cent.
If you want a very decent multitool here and there better than a leatherman Wave accepting ¼ bits at reasonable price for a lower budget:
Ozark Trail Multiforce premium 18 in 1 (by wallmart)
Swisstech 18 in 1
HX Outdoors GQ-17A
Mossy Oak 17 en 1
this models are all made by Hangzhou Great Star Industrial Co.LTD and are quite good for a fraction of a Leatherman Wave.
Remember you have to put a 6mm magnet inside the foldable driver. and add the bit ratchet set you prefer through those you are considering.
Dude 🙌🏼 Thank you for putting all this info out there!
I have the Vim. It’s a perfect companion to my Wera Tool Check Plus. The added length and capabilities of the tool really improves the versatility of the Wera.
Hi- five to manufacturing in Taiwan makes them both for icon and vim
Tone makes a neat version: BRFS27.
Just out of curiosity, is there a noticeable weight difference between the Prestacycle and the Icon, just the ratchets themselves?
I don't think so, that's an older video so I really don't recall
I too have the VIM version and like it. My bet is they are all made by the same Chinese (or Taiwan) manufacturer with slightly differing stamping/machining options for each branded name, a very common practice.
I saw someone say HI-FIVE in Taiwan on another video with the close comparison outside of handle length on ICON and VIM
VIM makes that ratchet and private labels it for other companies.
The icon bit set in nice...i got one..not that easy to find...They seem to be hiding them in the back all the time
Good review, but what about the max torque that can handle those mini ratchets before break... 20, 50, 60, 70 Nm ???
I think common sense should be applied here.... Different size drives exist for a purpose - No mechanic would apply "that" much torque with any 1/4" drive ratchet
@@AstroVanTribe The point is not common sense,The point is, for example, that not all 3/8" wrenches or ratchets in the world can handle the same torque, that does not exist, that is why some are cheap and others are very expensive. Torque is only a specification that a mechanical tool can withstand based on the quality of its construction.... and about the common sense of a mechanic pro: ruclips.net/video/jfflEZAOWps/видео.html
Excelente demostración... Saludos desde México
That was a useful. Thank you.
ICON is too short. It fits in the box but I didn't need or want another box and I have more than enough bits. The VIM comes with the adapter and extension and easily fits in my toolbox.
Why does anyone care about packaging?
If you're in store looking for a product, it definitely helps to know what to look for.
I can’t speak to prestacycle, but Harbor freight is paying VIM royalties on this bit ratchet. It’s all made in Taiwan but VIM does own the patent on this design.
Thanks good to know....
How on earth do you know this?
VIM does not own the patent. These are all made by a company in Taiwan called Hi-Five. The company is owned by Bobby Hu, who used to work for GearWrench and designed their ratcheting wrenches.
@@martinmiller484 Can I apply for your company?
No they don't, it's made by HI-FIVE and FACOM was the 1st to offer the flex head at least 10 years ago.
All the bit ratchets marked " REVERSE GEAR " or " 1/4 GEAR " ...etc are all made by HI-FIVE.
I believe Topeak may have been the 1st to offer the Prestacycle style version, and VIM was one of the early adopters of the box wrench style version but not the 1st and they don't own the design.