One Tip I dont see anywhere is that you have to hunt through as many targets since Hunts DMG will incrase by a lot cause of that. Always thought why other DH`s Hunt was so much higher, this was the reason why.
Absolutely true! Spreading 'The Hunt' to multiple targets can be a gamechanger especially in council fights. I chose to stick to the core gameplay and leave some parts out of this video intentionally to avoid information overload. 'The Hunt' optimization being one of them.
@@FelFireGazeTV Jedith did a really good video about that, you don't need to hunt through all the targets, but you have to move quickly into them after your hunt
Question. Why is hunt often used on opener despite the fact it does around 20% more damage from being in meta + furious gaze haste buff. Seems like a no brainer DPS gain
Casting Eye Beam before 'The Hunt' is definitely something you can do but it gets a bit tricky to fit in the double inertia + ESSB + Death Sweep within the demonic window. You would do a single Inertia to buff the ESSB with double Death Sweep and then use the second Inertia later. This would also lower the Inertia uptime during the dot of 'The Hunt'. So you can get/lose damage from multiple sides by making small adjustments. This opener is the most consistent to execute and has been working extremely well for me.
You can cast metamorphosis right after vengeful retreat. It cancels the animation of the backflip. You can do the same with felblade, but you have to jump outside melee range so that felblade charges you back in
dont line up intertia, you waste 1,5 seconds of your first interia window to line it up with the second. not optimal, but ofc its enough for 98% of the player.
@@The0nlyy Immo,Eyebeam,Felrush,EssenzBreak, Retreat,Bladedance,Meta,Bladedance.(Inertia and firststrije is now over). Again immo, Eyebeam,Felrush,Bladedance,Chaosstrike + + . Watch my Fyrakk killvideo and you See it. With Timer macros
Telarius asked the same thing in a comment below. I am copy pasting the answer I gave him some time ago: Casting Eye Beam before 'The Hunt' is definitely something you can do but it gets a bit tricky to fit in the double inertia + ESSB + Death Sweep within the demonic window. You would do a single Inertia to buff the ESSB with double Death Sweep and then use the second Inertia later. This would also lower the Inertia uptime during the dot of 'The Hunt'. So you can get/lose damage from multiple sides by making small adjustments. This opener is the most consistent to execute and has been working extremely well for me.
Thanks man! The no mover build in this tier is kinda troll in my opinion. It does only slightly better than Inertia, specifically in pure single target, if you don't targeted by any mechanics and the fights last long enough. I have not used it at all
@@FelFireGazeTV Thanks, I appreciate it! And please, could you share you thoughts for havoc DH in the war within? I'm thinking of maining my DH in the new expansion!
@@gjorgjekoloski From what we' ve seen until now Havoc is not in its best form. TLDR Aldrachi Reaver is its main hero spec which is annoying to play and needs some fixes. The spec is undertuned in general. However, I would expect at least 1 round of major Havoc changes (they did not touch our talent tree yet) and definitely some rounds of balance tuning. So any speculation is too inaccurate still.
I don't think so. You will loose the entire trinket buff on EyeBeam and Collective Anguish to only cast ESSB and death sweeps with 1 tick more on the trinket.
Trying dh lately I don't really understand how to use vengeful retreat, is it a positional thing or do you cancel the animation during a burst like a combo in a fighting game ? seems like a very clunky spell to use, at least for me....
I see where you coming from VR can be very clunky to use at times. You can turn your back towards your desired destination (or at least a destination that does not disrupt your rotation) and backflip like that, then turn. You can cancel the animation with Metamorphosis Jump or with Felblade, if you so desire. Not always the optimal play but definitely something you can do. Would you be interested in a video all around optimizing Havoc movement?
@@FelFireGazeTV thank you for taking the time to answer, ye I understand a bit more about VR after watching your pvp commentaries, a video about movement would be awesome btw and thank you again for all your great tutorial videos
Thank you for the video, now i can understand the class a little bit more even if i am new to it 😅 Is there a video explaining addons macros and weakauras for new players maybe?
Glad yo hear I was able to help :) . Sadly I have not made any addon/macro/wa/UI videos yet, but it is something I am looking forward to, because people have been asking for it
Hehe, never thought they would serve that purpose. They were extremely helpful for me to organize my thought process and to visually deliver the information in bite size pieces
Ty for useful tips, helps a lot, gonna try and do some PvP by checking your video, wanna try and upgrade as high as I can my Dh since is the only class I like to play
Hey dude nice vid! What do you suggest taking instead of throw glave? Just reached level 70 for the first time and I usually open with it for the damage buff.
If I read this correctly you mean what spell to open the fight with. Normally you start with 'Immolation Aura' into 'Sigil of Flame'. Both can be cast from range as you approach your target. Both of them also apply chaos brand. If you are talking about serrated glaive, you don't really care about it at start, it will be applied with your first blade dance which will also cast throw glaive. If you don't have the 2 set bonus, you have to manually throw your glaives but this will not last for long as getting 2-set at this moment is easy and should be one of your first priorities. Its extremely powerful and convenient
@@FelFireGazeTV ah yes thank you, I don't have any fancy gear at the moment that causes the instacast. Appreciate you taking the time to reply! I shall find the 2 set armour asap 😊
Hi, I have an idea for a short video, that I didnt find on youtube. U should show how to trade cooldowns efficiently as DH on pvp, like, which ability u trade for what on enemys go
Thanks a lot for the feedback, your suggestion has been noted. I agree that this is a very interesting and important topic. I doubt this video will be very short though, as there are a lot of different cases to cover :P
@@FelFireGazeTV sounds good and prob with DH beeing on meta rn, should gv u lots of views for now! And btw I would really watch 10 times this video lol
Was not expecting such an informed video. Very nioce~
damn i hate how havoc dh went from easiest to almost hardest class
One Tip I dont see anywhere is that you have to hunt through as many targets since Hunts DMG will incrase by a lot cause of that. Always thought why other DH`s Hunt was so much higher, this was the reason why.
Absolutely true! Spreading 'The Hunt' to multiple targets can be a gamechanger especially in council fights. I chose to stick to the core gameplay and leave some parts out of this video intentionally to avoid information overload. 'The Hunt' optimization being one of them.
@@FelFireGazeTV Jedith did a really good video about that, you don't need to hunt through all the targets, but you have to move quickly into them after your hunt
@@LeumasLSNTV Yeap I saw that video back in the day.
@@LeumasLSNTV what is the titule of that video? I didnt Even know about this
Question. Why is hunt often used on opener despite the fact it does around 20% more damage from being in meta + furious gaze haste buff. Seems like a no brainer DPS gain
Casting Eye Beam before 'The Hunt' is definitely something you can do but it gets a bit tricky to fit in the double inertia + ESSB + Death Sweep within the demonic window. You would do a single Inertia to buff the ESSB with double Death Sweep and then use the second Inertia later. This would also lower the Inertia uptime during the dot of 'The Hunt'. So you can get/lose damage from multiple sides by making small adjustments. This opener is the most consistent to execute and has been working extremely well for me.
Hey is there a trick to avoid jumping back to far after vengful retreat? :)
You can cast metamorphosis right after vengeful retreat. It cancels the animation of the backflip. You can do the same with felblade, but you have to jump outside melee range so that felblade charges you back in
dont line up intertia, you waste 1,5 seconds of your first interia window to line it up with the second. not optimal, but ofc its enough for 98% of the player.
What is the alternative?
@@The0nlyy Immo,Eyebeam,Felrush,EssenzBreak, Retreat,Bladedance,Meta,Bladedance.(Inertia and firststrije is now over). Again immo, Eyebeam,Felrush,Bladedance,Chaosstrike + + . Watch my Fyrakk killvideo and you See it. With Timer macros
you cant buff grieftorch with inertia,right?
My understanding is that you can. I have not tested though since I don't have GriefTorch yet
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It's a brand :P
question arent u supposed to cast the haunt after eye beam so u can have furious gaze haste buff while the haunt ticks?
Telarius asked the same thing in a comment below. I am copy pasting the answer I gave him some time ago: Casting Eye Beam before 'The Hunt' is definitely something you can do but it gets a bit tricky to fit in the double inertia + ESSB + Death Sweep within the demonic window. You would do a single Inertia to buff the ESSB with double Death Sweep and then use the second Inertia later. This would also lower the Inertia uptime during the dot of 'The Hunt'. So you can get/lose damage from multiple sides by making small adjustments. This opener is the most consistent to execute and has been working extremely well for me.
@@FelFireGazeTV i understand your logic behind this! Fair enough
Great guide! I was just wondering what do you think about the raid no mover build from wowhead for raids? Or the inertia build is bis?
Thanks man! The no mover build in this tier is kinda troll in my opinion. It does only slightly better than Inertia, specifically in pure single target, if you don't targeted by any mechanics and the fights last long enough. I have not used it at all
@@FelFireGazeTV Thanks, I appreciate it! And please, could you share you thoughts for havoc DH in the war within? I'm thinking of maining my DH in the new expansion!
@@gjorgjekoloski From what we' ve seen until now Havoc is not in its best form. TLDR Aldrachi Reaver is its main hero spec which is annoying to play and needs some fixes. The spec is undertuned in general. However, I would expect at least 1 round of major Havoc changes (they did not touch our talent tree yet) and definitely some rounds of balance tuning. So any speculation is too inaccurate still.
Great video, earned a sub! I liked absolutely everything about it!
So glad to hear it man! Welcome to the channel!
Time to get back to WOW? 👀
Are you up for a lot of min-maxing / Dungeon Grind and A Hell of Balance Tuning? If yes then welcome back :)
do you think that using the trinket just before EssB would do more dmg?
I don't think so. You will loose the entire trinket buff on EyeBeam and Collective Anguish to only cast ESSB and death sweeps with 1 tick more on the trinket.
@@FelFireGazeTV okay so pop it before eyebeam and we good, THANKS bro !!
awesome video btw!
@@smeaky8816 Glad you liked it man! I had a ton of fun making it :)
Trying dh lately I don't really understand how to use vengeful retreat, is it a positional thing or do you cancel the animation during a burst like a combo in a fighting game ? seems like a very clunky spell to use, at least for me....
I see where you coming from VR can be very clunky to use at times. You can turn your back towards your desired destination (or at least a destination that does not disrupt your rotation) and backflip like that, then turn. You can cancel the animation with Metamorphosis Jump or with Felblade, if you so desire. Not always the optimal play but definitely something you can do. Would you be interested in a video all around optimizing Havoc movement?
@@FelFireGazeTV thank you for taking the time to answer, ye I understand a bit more about VR after watching your pvp commentaries, a video about movement would be awesome btw and thank you again for all your great tutorial videos
@@FelFireGazeTV totally yes!
@@TheCezz Noted. Thanks for feedback
What a ridiculously helpful video, unique break down of talents, abilities and the rotation. Brilliant job man 😎
Thanks for the kind words man! Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you for the video, now i can understand the class a little bit more even if i am new to it 😅
Is there a video explaining addons macros and weakauras for new players maybe?
Glad yo hear I was able to help :) . Sadly I have not made any addon/macro/wa/UI videos yet, but it is something I am looking forward to, because people have been asking for it
The charts and images you put on screen were extremely helpful. I took screenshots of them and can review / quiz myself throughout the day.
Hehe, never thought they would serve that purpose. They were extremely helpful for me to organize my thought process and to visually deliver the information in bite size pieces
I did the same 😂
Subbed because of this video. Im returning from a break at the end of season 3 so this is a great refresh
Glad to hear that man! Welcome back and welcome to our little community!
Ty for useful tips, helps a lot, gonna try and do some PvP by checking your video, wanna try and upgrade as high as I can my Dh since is the only class I like to play
Glad you found this helpful :) Enjoy the process man! DH is the only class I play as well and having a blast
Hey dude nice vid! What do you suggest taking instead of throw glave? Just reached level 70 for the first time and I usually open with it for the damage buff.
If I read this correctly you mean what spell to open the fight with. Normally you start with 'Immolation Aura' into 'Sigil of Flame'. Both can be cast from range as you approach your target. Both of them also apply chaos brand. If you are talking about serrated glaive, you don't really care about it at start, it will be applied with your first blade dance which will also cast throw glaive. If you don't have the 2 set bonus, you have to manually throw your glaives but this will not last for long as getting 2-set at this moment is easy and should be one of your first priorities. Its extremely powerful and convenient
@@FelFireGazeTV ah yes thank you, I don't have any fancy gear at the moment that causes the instacast. Appreciate you taking the time to reply! I shall find the 2 set armour asap 😊
Awesome vid, thank you man!
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Yes explain the 3 button rotation
Why u watch this video then
Hi, I have an idea for a short video, that I didnt find on youtube. U should show how to trade cooldowns efficiently as DH on pvp, like, which ability u trade for what on enemys go
Thanks a lot for the feedback, your suggestion has been noted. I agree that this is a very interesting and important topic. I doubt this video will be very short though, as there are a lot of different cases to cover :P
@@FelFireGazeTV sounds good and prob with DH beeing on meta rn, should gv u lots of views for now! And btw I would really watch 10 times this video lol
@@bryanwilliam7366 Hehe that's a fair point
I like the fact that you gve tips and cricks not included in any of the so called expert guides, not even Wowhead displays this level of mastery.
Appreciate the kind words :)
Completely agree, insane how good this video is to be honest haha