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Replacing Expired RV LP Gas Detector (Atwood ProTECHTor)
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- Опубликовано: 27 дек 2018
- In this video, I replace my expiring Atwood 2001 ProTECHTor LP Gas Detector alarm with a new one. The old model wasn't available so I install a newer version.
I explain my installation and hookup and the perform a demo test. According to the manual, the RV LP gas detector should be replaced every 7 years -/+ 128 days. After that time they aren't guaranteed to be trustworthy. The new model has a stated lifespan of 84 months.
See my Big Buddy Heater Install links:
Hooking Big Buddy to RV Gas Line - goo.gl/H8QRFJ
Installing Gas Shut Off Valve - goo.gl/A6ezkN
Products mentioned in the video:
Atwood LP Gas Detector - amzn.to/2Vhhcmk
Big Buddy Heater - amzn.to/2s0fAAc
Bernzomatic Butane Torch - amzn.to/2BM6KKU
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The one we had in our 2017 LTV Unity FX was from a defective batch.It would go off when the house batteries dropped down to 12.1 volts, which was every time we boondock. Mounted between the couch and under the fridge, it was nearly impossible to remove. My wrist could not fit. My brother took a screwdriver drill bit, taped a wrench to it, and managed to single turn at a time remove it. The replacement is now held in place with Velcro with spade lugs for easy future replacement. Greg & Marsha Locke
geesh! sounds like a nightmare installation place they picked!
That sire took a lot of butane to set it off. I thought it would be more sensitive.
Maybe it works better on LP gas but I guess it can't be too sensitive being so close to the stove otherwise it would be false alarming a lot.
I have never seen anybody talk about the propane, c02, or smoke detectors in RVs. They are important to maintain, but even in a sticks and bricks many times are forgotten. Thanks for Sharing! Keep up the original theme of your videos. Nice job!
Thanks, Todd, here is another one I did last year - www.loveyourrv.com/rv-carbon-monoxide-detector-suddenly-beeping-twice/ I've been extra vigilant since we boondock a lot and use the Big Buddy propane heater. I love the advantages of the propane heater but don't want to die using it. :) Best to have all the safety devices in good working order, Cheers! Ray
Another helpful tip is to mark the install date under or behind for future quick reference of replacement. A sharpie works great. If you are like me, remembering dates of "when did I replace this?" are hard to find in my long term memory.
Good tip, the new one came with a sticker to use. Also, its suppose to start chirping at end of life. Chirps every 30 seconds and flashes yellow says the new manual. Cheers, Ray
that's the kind of panel I have too but my gas detector was malfunctioning when it was new. So I disconnected it and use that circuit for other purposes. I used to always leave a vent open when I used propane until I noticed there's actually a pretty good gap alongside my door. So now I don't even bother venting ever.
Except for the angle of that wall on the right, I would almost think that picture was taken in my Lance!
Good timing! I just pulled mine a few weeks ago and haven't put a new one in yet. They don't seem to be cheap anywhere. And can't find stand alone battery ones like carbon monoxide detectors.
Thank you for thisexcelelnt review. Ray, ,Even if one is not using their unit often, the detector is connected directly to the batteries and as long as those are being charged the detector is on. Some people put a switch on/off on the line and leave their batteries in the box while in storage for a certain period. Cheers.
Good video to remind everyone that those alarms do expire. Easy replacement. Happy travels.
Every time I look up an RV related video, you've already posted it! Thanks so much 😊
I had an Atwood propane alarm on a new to me two year old travel trailer. Took only two years to die. It was beeping with no power going to it. There isn’t an inside battery on it. It had a 7 year life expectancy. Model# LP-DOB Part #31013.
Great safety video. I will be checking mine. Little things like that "not saying it is little" you just don't think about check.🤔 Plus the propane tank video also. Thanks for the heads up. Keep the videos coming.
My dogs think the alarm was plenty loud. Happy New Year!
Thanks for the video ray! So in my lance truck camper and our 2017 sunseeker class c they both had similar detectors like the one you just installed and by similar I mean they worked in the same manner but in our current class A motorhome the detector has a solenoid that is mounted just past the regulator and if the alarm goes off it closes the solenoid.. my problem is that solenoid is HOT! I’ve switched it out and the new one is still hot, from what I’ve found on the forums i get conflicting info but the one thing that is constant in the solenoid maintains a steady temp of around 160 degrees!
I never thought of them having an expiration date. My Trailer is a 2003 so I better check mine. Thanks Ray.
Nice video. My 2015 trailer came with the typical LP detector (Safe-T-Alert) that all my trailers in the past have had. However this unit (which has the exact same size bezel) is not only a LP detector but also a carbon monoxide detector too. So it's a dual function unit which was a nice surprise.
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Thanks Ray, I didn't know about the 7 year thing. Good info.
thanks Ray, i'll go check mine now.
My RV is a 2018 model, so the gas detector is not out of date, but when I went to test it, it did not work. When I pulled it off the wall I found the power wires were not hooked up to anything. I reached behind the wall panel, but could not find any power wires. Came from the factory like that - so much for quality control.
Wow, that's pretty bad!
Mine was also not connected/working when our rig was new. Found a loose wire nut in the wall, all was good once connected.
Yes, smoke, propane & CO2 detectors have a useable lifespan around seven years. Smart reminder for us Ray. Thank you.
I have replaced the smoke and CO detectors with the new Lithium battery powered ones, suppose to be 10 years maintenance free. Cheers! Ray
What make of RV do you have?
@@robertthomas8653 I have a Georgetown 31R5. Made by Forest River.
I know this video is a few years old, but how much light does that green LED put out at night? At least the old was a flashing one and not constantly on. Will this one 'light up' the whole camper? Thanks Ray for all your videos! Lots of great ideas.
It is pretty bright at night, works well as a night light for the kitchen. :) A person could always use some tinted tape to knock the light output down a bit
I guess I have to replace mine thank you. My rv is 2010
Mine says 2003 year same unit you have
Sounds like it has been expired for quite a while then. :)
Is there any problem with replacing my "end of life" Safe - T- Alert "propane detector" with a safe-t-alert "carbon monoxide/propane detector"? The new one being both co and propane doesn't matter does it??
Usually propane detectors need to be very close to the floor as propane is heavy and pools down low where as CO detectors are higher up, usually located near the bedroom area. But as long as you have a CO detector there I personally wouldn't see how it hurts to have a combo one located where the propane one is. Guess its up to your insurance.
@@LoveYourRV Thanks Ray for responding.
What does it mean when the light is orange not quite red
I think it indicates either a low voltage warning or end of life warning. If you can find the make and model you could look online for the manual. Cheers, Ray
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This is so good news I go also to bay one and installed them
Safte is better as to los a live thanks you have given me n open mind you nock on my mind
Wake up installed on be safe
Thanks dear friend
May God bless you all
Good heads up Ray! Cheers!
Great idea, need to check ours... thank you for sharing and best wishes for a fantastic New Year !
Nice how to video. Thanks 👍
You might want to take a Sharpie and record the install date inside the cover. . . . just a thought.
Thanks, the new unit includes stickers to mark the date on. Cheers, Ray
I have heard that these detectors do indeed have a certain life expectancy due to the radioactive isotope used in the detector head in these things, same thing goes for smoke detectors
Wouldn't it be better to mount the alarm closer to the floor, since LP gas is heavier than air?
Manual says to mount it low and close to gas appliances but not so low as to be damaged by feet or moving furniture around. Ours is under the kitchen area so if too low we'd end up kicking with our feet when doing dishes or preparing meals.
You skipped over the most important part... how to remove the old gas alarm.
Not sure what you mean, unscrew it, only 2 screws I said, and cut the old wires, connect the new wires and screw in the new one. Not much to it.
didn't show how he got it open
I said the cover just unclips. Has plastic snaps - ruclips.net/video/jaf4Q38-ppM/видео.html Cheers, Ray
I had to unhook my alarm. How do you get them to not go off when the battery voltage drops
Not sure, I haven't had that problem.
I’ve heard the same thing about smoke detectors have a set life span and should be replaced
I know my three year old detector works because it goes off probably 3 times a month when I cook. And I am not talking about burning anything either.
So is that detector always using 12V or do you have a way to shut it off so it doesn't drain power if you have prolong non-usage of the rig..?
Yes, its always on. I have a master 12-volt shutoff switch for when the RV is in long-term storage. It shuts off all power to the RVs 12 volt DC circuits so things like the propane detector, stereo, fridge control board, etc don't drain the batteries.
@@LoveYourRV Sometimes sniffing out power loss with a solar system can be tricky.. I could see where someone may think that detector would be on batteries and not know it's a power drain on the system..but the master shutoff eliminates those small drains, that may be hard to find...
Yeah, the larger and more complex the RV the more little parasitic power drains there are. For example, my trailer has remote control functionality for the awning, slide and power jacks. The wireless controller board is always draining a little bit of power, not much but they all add up. :)
So my detector was chirping, so my friend said to pull the manual out and, sure enough, it had reached it's lifespan. I googled to find a replacement and saw a "how to" video for replacing it. And here I am!!! Haha! Too funny!
Hey, what were the wires connected to? Were they wired to connectors or soldered? I didn't pull them out too far, because we have the slide in for the season (will slide out to repair) and have a cover on the roof. Hopefully, I don't have to get behind the panel, because mine is mounted under the stereo area (you have an AC plug there).
Cheers, Ray!
haha, Not sure where the wires went, likley into the power center, I ended up cutting the existing wires and spicing the new LP detector in place. I also added a plug on the +12V wire so I can easily disconnect if I want for storage or what ever. Cheers! Ray
@@LoveYourRV I just went back out to the trailer, and saw that the panel is held in place with 4 screws, so I'll pull it off and see if there's a connection behind. Otherwise, I'll probably do like you did, and just cut the wires and splice the new unit in place. Seems like it should be a pretty big void area, so I might make a hidden storage area for valuables. There's another void by the entry door (near the wall, under the sink) that I thought to use, but hate to cut the wood. This would be much easier.
I added a shoe cubby to one of my voids, worked out great for us - www.loveyourrv.com/keystone-cougar-fifth-wheel-shoe-storage-mod/ also ended up putting in a small drawer above them.
I HEARD A BEEP AND DID NOT KNOW WHERE IT WAS COMING FROM. GOT THIS AROUND 4 YEARS AGO SO I THINK IT HAS SOME LIFE LEFT. I DO NOT USE ANY GAS HEATING AT ALL; SO IT WOULD NOT GO OFF SOME AIRFRESHNERS REACT TO THE DETECTOR SO STOPPED THAT DONT KNOW WHY THE ODD BEEPING
Could be due to low RV battery voltage
Do you have any info , How often does a RV propane tank need to be recertified?
haha, funny you should ask, I'm actually going to town to buy 2 new 30 lbs tanks today. Decided to buy new rather than recertify, new are only around 60-70 dollars each. We use them a ton being full timers so worth it to me to have new with all new hardware. They last 10 years before needing recertification, the date is stamped on the side, ours just expired today. Maybe I'll do a quick video on it. Cheers, Ray
@@LoveYourRV Oh sorry, I thought you had permanently installed LP gas tank..
@@TheRCfunny No, I don't think any trailers have the permanent tanks, only motorhomes. If I remember correctly from my old campervan, they don't need to be recertified, the tanks are made much thicker, made to last for the life of the vehicle. Although the whole system in an RV usually needs to be recertified before a resale, at least that the way it was in BC, may be different in different states and provinces.
Your heater...do you use that only when you are hooked to land power and how many watts does it draw?
I have a small True North electric heater that is adjustable to 600,900 and 1500 watts, we only use that when on free shore power to save money on propane. For dry camping, we use a Big Buddy propane heater and the OEM RV furnace. We use the Big Buddy during waking hours as I don't trust sleeping with it on when sleeping we use the OEM RV propane furnace.
This is how my Big Buddy is hooked up to the RV gas line via a quick connect - Hooking Big Buddy to RV Gas Line - goo.gl/H8QRFJ When its warm I disconnected it and store out of the way.
@@LoveYourRV Great info thanks...!
@@LoveYourRV Does the buddy produce a lot of moisture or is the climates you travel through dry already...? May be helpful to humidify if too dry..
I don't find it a problem, a gas stove and oven likely produce much more. Mostly I use it in the desert so like you say any extra humidity is helpful. Also when in use I have all three RV roof vents wide open and a side window partially open, so lots of air flow to remove humidity.
The reason they go bad is there's a very slightly radioactive element in there with a half life of around 10 years. It'll go bad on or off, same reason smoke detectors go bad
Interesting, thanks!
My wife thought it was loud, she yelled across the room and said "what's that alarm going off"! I said don't worry honey, its just a youtube video, LOL.😂😂👍✌️
haha, lucky I didn't do a test with the old one! :)
Cool
Who else besides me is saying "the bottoms not hooked"?
There isn't a bottom hook to the mounting plate, just two middle plastic hangers.
@@LoveYourRV I see it now! I was still talking to the computer just the same. Ha
Atwood is out of business, got sold.
They are now rebranded to Dometic - www.dometic.com/en-ca/ca/rebranded/atwood
In 2014 Dometic purchased Atwood Mobile Products to complement and bolster Dometic's robust product line. Atwood is now sold under the Dometic brand, and the product assortment can be found in the following categories:
Air Conditioners for RVs
Ventilation
Furnaces
Gas Detectors
Cookers Ranges
Cooktops
Accessories for Cooking
Refrigerators
Water Heaters
Accessories for Safety & Security
Furnaces
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I' m surprised everyone thought this was a good video. The only part that really needed to be shown the hooking up of the wires, which he did not do. That's what I was look to see, coming out of the wall. So to me, this video was useless.
I usually use solder for low voltage wire connections. Here is a video about how to solder wires together www.loveyourrv.com/soldering-tips-tricks-and-tools-how-to-make-a-reliable-connection/ another easy option is Lever Nuts www.loveyourrv.com/quick-and-easy-tip-for-connecting-wires-wago-lever-nuts/ Cheers, Ray