I personally believe it's a combination of EOMM and bad servers. If you ever go into a reverse boosted lobby, you will not experience a single networking issue
lol I also think it is region based, I live in GA so I think it's a lot of ppl in puerto rico and us virgin islands, DR, etc who are far from here, but don't have any closer servers, I think if I did a netduma geofence to middle america I'd get better connection possibly, but I bet I would get stronger connection after reverse boosting sadly smh
I'm in TX & have a Netduma R3 & I have my geofence either real small or opened quite a bit to test which servers I connect to & I always connect to the same 2 servers, one in La & one in Washington idk if it's just the beta cause that doesn't happen in mw3 or any other game
The matchmaking system knows how you play, better than you know yourself. They have countless patents to implement in order to maximize profit for each type of player. The system is far more invasive than you can imagine and it’s hidden by people like you complaining about what theory you think it may be.
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People have already stated this. Activision is doing the least amount of effort for the maximum amount of profit. Fans of cod must vote with their wallet, from time to time. Even if the addiction is strong.
It’s pretty funny how often I get put in central/east servers as a Hawaii player. Anything above 60ms is ridiculous. It’s pretty demoralizing getting dumpstered by under 10ms players.
It’s the people with the high paying lose if you got a 20 ping and they got 100 ping. You’re gonna win the gunfight every time if you got fiber Internet and they got like 100 MB a minute at Internet they’re gonna lose every time nine out of 10 times.
it depends on the lag compensation and who reaches the server first, also if somebody is on cable internet they will have more inconsistency than fiber as well so cable may have more packet loss on top of being affected however lag compensation may interpolate or make server side predictions to "make it fair" for the high ping player, if the bullets of the low ping player aren't doing any damage, the high ping player winds up winning the fight when they get the packets for damage late but the server either predicts their packets early or delays the other players packets and then bunches a whole clip of the lagging players damage on the next tick...ppl with massive ping differences should not be in the same lobby
@@dartlinfps well when I played on Warzone on PC I could see the ping on everybody and 99% of the time I got killed by somebody with less ping Remember that FPS boomers channel about pinging he did 150 game survey and found out how bad the servers are. You should watch it.
That's true but they have server side algorithms that interfere with it and compensate for the ping discrepancy. Low ping 10- 20 now feels like everything is delayed but increase your ping to 40 - 50 and suddenly it feels more syncronised.
I hate how they don't include kills in domination or hardpont scoreboard either, it has be to make worse players not feel singled out. They're also using that dumb EKAI system from Bo4 where assists count as kills. I played a game earlier and only one person went negative out of 12 players because of these inflated EKAI numbers 😂
I just check it is exclusive ace that did the texture streaming test. Btw like the vid man. Big issue with warzone is they are 12 to 20 tick rate servers that's why I see more desynchronization there instead of multiplayer that has 60 tik rate servers
I seen a video a while back explaining their new servers and basically what they built was a system that incentivises horrible ping and punishes people for having good ping. I 100% believe the SBMM is a problem and believe it's a fact that health, hitmarkers, and audio are all effected by this. I do think though however that the ping is destroying the game. RAKE FPS actually made a video showing off how bad the desync is. Everytime you guys die instantly and on the killcam you see that they shot you 5 or 6 times before they killed you that's desync killing you. Also I disagree it's about saving money on servers. They profit billions every year on these games, I think it's them trying to hide how serious the cheater problem and SBMM problem is.
They def are doing most if not all choices because of money like you said, they make money hand over fist and people also keep buying games and skins so they see no incentive to really change things... a lot of cheaters prob buy skins and stuff occasionally so the game is ok with letting them come back esp if they buy multiple copies of the game or buy skins consistently (it just boosts the stats for the game in terms of player numbers and sales)
I'll tell you 100% whats going on. yes they are hiding the ping on purpose. They seem to only have 2 servers during this beta and east coast and west coast server. I'm natively east coast, when I VPN, or even just region spoof I am connected to the west coast servers. I know they are west coast because my ping is over 60ms sometimes in the 80s. When I don't use regular VPN or a region spoof my ping is literally 4ms in some cases. I also noticed when i played on those west coast servers it was taking me more bullets to kill people but there were also people that I would put almost a whole clip into and they would not be half health. This made me realize these are player over 120ms so yes in short they aren't going to show the ping this year because they are digging in using it further to implement SBMM. When you start doing well expect the jump in ping to be much higher than previous years. Previous years it would go from your lowest ms ( 0 to 20), then you would play more difficult people on 0 -20. Then you'd play less skilled people but you're at 30 to 50. Then if that didn't stop you you would play skilled people while your 30 to 50, and finally you would play bad people while you're at 60+. This new system they are testing is going to put you on bad ping much faster, which is why they are hiding it. Also they broke the "SBMM off" region spoof in this one so everyone using those clients like no lag vpn , its not going to work. if you spoof a region its going to make you play on that region. I only spoofed to dallas as i previously mentioned and it threw me on west coast servers. In MW!!/III the way is used to work is when you spoofed region it would look for bad players at a lower ping resulting in you being on your regional server with less skilled players, until everyone started using those clients. That's how i came up with those ping/skill buckets earlier.
Nah bro, I think you're onto something though, we are literally being gaslit with every death. Showing the ping would provide an explanation and give us the security of knowing that we aren't getting worse the ping just killed us.
I just wish they were more transparent with how their systems work and stuff and showed us the ping as well because then we could troubleshoot whether it was our internet, or computer or console possibly, or if it was the other player, maybe they don't want ppl blaming other players connection but sometimes that is the issue in certain situations
ill never understand why people complain so much about Cod, then still choose to play it, and buy skins. If enough people stop playing, things will change eventually.....but that'll never happen. I havent played Cod at all since the first month of MW2v2.....there's too many indie devs on Steam that deserve more support.....Activision doesnt deserve shit.
@@dartlinfps damn I dont even do that lol I have the BOPs6 on gamepass on pc and xbox and I still havent played it, because I know what awaits me...........probably 2-3 decent games.....and then every game after that will feel like a sweat's nightmare...with everyone running around with the same 2 ARs, or SMG, and using every meta and exploit to their advantage. COD''s gameplay loop now is absolute shit compared to the golden days 15 years ago
Probably bad servers... I've noticed that my ping spikez when I just look at the enemy team... but that was after setting the feed for almost 3 days straight.
wouldn't be surprised with them having a patent for it and also seeing delta force have bots in their beta and not even having it on the names at least like they did on bf2042 lmao
@@dartlinfps truly bro. I was stunned when I found out Delta Force was using bots and giving them life like names and putting things like YT or ttv in the name and I was like ooh shit
It reminds me of advance warfare, but with smaller maps. everyone hated that game... The TTK is 7 bodies or 2 heads wtf lol. Dsync is crazy bad, kill cams don't represent what happens on your screen. LMG have the same rang as SMG, but SMG somehow have a faster TTK. Its total braindead game play. They want everyone to Spawn, Run, Kill, Die, Repeat. All the while expecting a different result..... Actual inanity.
I think it was xclusive Ace maybe that did the video on the texture streaming he limited his bandwidth and did a bunch of tests and it was pretty interesting check it out
im one of those players that dont have a dedicated server anywhere near my country so the sbmm puts me where ever it wants and i never complained constantly playing 100+ ping despite all that i played rank i was sitting on 4.6kd but i never had any fun playing it so i just left COD for apex and after 3 years i finally played this beta and hollyy fuck this game is horrible it already recognized my stats from past titles and put me againts optic wanna be players at this rate i wont bother even coming back im just waitting for new battlefield or delta force COD is long gone.
yeah it's nuts it prioritizes the skill level way too much to the extent that it's like there's a whole diff group of players it seperates all the above average players from, games are supposed to be about fun, not a hidden ranked play constantly lol
Honestly I am not liking the beta it’s mostly though the aesthetic of the game it just feels dark and depressing to me it’s almost like they’re trying to make a more war like look yes I know cod is a war shooter but it’s never been about hyper realism there are other war shooters for that. It doesn’t feel like casual shooter that cod is supposed to be. Also still bothers me all our mw3 cosmetics doesn’t carry over.
I think it's the engine swap that has it looking all grey and tan and stuff lol it looks almost "dusty" lol I guess they're going for the realism look or something
@@dartlinfps perhaps I mean a perfect example is Rust and the maps on there they are both dusty but Rust looks much more brighter and less grey and tan like you said.
"PREACH ON BROTHA!" ...lol I have to say I haven't FULLY played CoD since 4: Modern Warfare, and MAYBE, a hint of BOps:"something or other", 10yrs ago, for the VERY reasons it sucks today, FOR ME! They STILL haven't innovated past anything, to the point of, "WOW, I need to get on AGAIN" stage, and just kept it just printing out the same crap that it has for the last 15yrs. YES, new stories and weapons, but, THAT'S IT, NOTHING MORE, other than having worse connections and minor bugs that STILL DON'T get fixed until the END of a cycle, IF THAT!!! So, for now, I'll just keep living vicariously through YOU and continue to enjoy IT, that way...lol CARRY ON!
I've seen 5 other videos besides yours, and they all say don't get black hot dogs 6. I've been ahead of the game and stopp buying any cod after advanced warfare. I knew it wasn't going to mantain quality when they kept trying to put out new titles every year instead of every few years.
We should have some news coming soon, def gotta be getting those login rewards daily between now and the 24th and save your XP tokens also to use during upcoming 2xp weekends ( I think 24th or 25th is when season 2 starts (Weds the 25th I would guess even though many sites say the 24th)
at this point i think that those companies think that they are deciding for us what we want while gasing us with " we hear every feedback "
I personally believe it's a combination of EOMM and bad servers. If you ever go into a reverse boosted lobby, you will not experience a single networking issue
lol I also think it is region based, I live in GA so I think it's a lot of ppl in puerto rico and us virgin islands, DR, etc who are far from here, but don't have any closer servers, I think if I did a netduma geofence to middle america I'd get better connection possibly, but I bet I would get stronger connection after reverse boosting sadly smh
I'm in TX & have a Netduma R3 & I have my geofence either real small or opened quite a bit to test which servers I connect to & I always connect to the same 2 servers, one in La & one in Washington idk if it's just the beta cause that doesn't happen in mw3 or any other game
The matchmaking system knows how you play, better than you know yourself.
They have countless patents to implement in order to maximize profit for each type of player.
The system is far more invasive than you can imagine and it’s hidden by people like you complaining about what theory you think it may be.
People have already stated this. Activision is doing the least amount of effort for the maximum amount of profit. Fans of cod must vote with their wallet, from time to time. Even if the addiction is strong.
Never going to happen cod boys love cod slop🤭
I'm only going to play their free offerings this year
I was asking the same question…
If I see prime Pete In the comments I'm in the right place 🤌
If the matchmaking doesn't prioritise connection, the matchmaking is objectively worse than matchmaking that does prioritise connection.
It’s pretty funny how often I get put in central/east servers as a Hawaii player. Anything above 60ms is ridiculous. It’s pretty demoralizing getting dumpstered by under 10ms players.
It's the mw engine. The game tries so hard to render graphics the servers that are already ass are working overtime 😂
lol makes sense because it's always been like this it feels like since 2019
@dartlinfps yup and then notice how it doesn't happen on cold war lol
It’s the people with the high paying lose if you got a 20 ping and they got 100 ping. You’re gonna win the gunfight every time if you got fiber Internet and they got like 100 MB a minute at Internet they’re gonna lose every time nine out of 10 times.
it depends on the lag compensation and who reaches the server first, also if somebody is on cable internet they will have more inconsistency than fiber as well so cable may have more packet loss on top of being affected however lag compensation may interpolate or make server side predictions to "make it fair" for the high ping player, if the bullets of the low ping player aren't doing any damage, the high ping player winds up winning the fight when they get the packets for damage late but the server either predicts their packets early or delays the other players packets and then bunches a whole clip of the lagging players damage on the next tick...ppl with massive ping differences should not be in the same lobby
@@dartlinfps well when I played on Warzone on PC I could see the ping on everybody and 99% of the time I got killed by somebody with less ping Remember that FPS boomers channel about pinging he did 150 game survey and found out how bad the servers are. You should watch it.
I have gig fiber and I’m lucky to get 35 ping. Majority of my games are between 50-80 ping almost every match.
That's true but they have server side algorithms that interfere with it and compensate for the ping discrepancy. Low ping 10- 20 now feels like everything is delayed but increase your ping to 40 - 50 and suddenly it feels more syncronised.
Keep buying this trash game that tries and does control your gameplay!!
I hate how they don't include kills in domination or hardpont scoreboard either, it has be to make worse players not feel singled out. They're also using that dumb EKAI system from Bo4 where assists count as kills. I played a game earlier and only one person went negative out of 12 players because of these inflated EKAI numbers 😂
I believe so too. Im between 15 and 26 and they just kill me faster also peakers advantage is crazy strong
yup I'm consistently at low ping, the players who kill me crazy fast usually have packet loss/burst etc on the killcam as well
The point about troubleshooting by seeing ping on the scoreboard that was heavy.
you can literally see "oh this person has insanely high ping" or even they have like 10 ping and be like "that makes sense"
I just check it is exclusive ace that did the texture streaming test. Btw like the vid man. Big issue with warzone is they are 12 to 20 tick rate servers that's why I see more desynchronization there instead of multiplayer that has 60 tik rate servers
yea they've been needing higher tick rate servers for years at this point
Depending on the time of day my matches find anywhere from 20-75+ ping... :/
my ping is usually like 20-40 but it seems the other players may have much higher ping
Easy solution, don't buy bundles and quit matches that have manipulated match making.
I leave when the connection feels janky
@dartlinfps keep it up, maybe they'll publish another paper.
god damn i would hate to be that guy at 3:40 mans was lost LOL
lmao
I seen a video a while back explaining their new servers and basically what they built was a system that incentivises horrible ping and punishes people for having good ping. I 100% believe the SBMM is a problem and believe it's a fact that health, hitmarkers, and audio are all effected by this. I do think though however that the ping is destroying the game. RAKE FPS actually made a video showing off how bad the desync is. Everytime you guys die instantly and on the killcam you see that they shot you 5 or 6 times before they killed you that's desync killing you. Also I disagree it's about saving money on servers. They profit billions every year on these games, I think it's them trying to hide how serious the cheater problem and SBMM problem is.
They def are doing most if not all choices because of money like you said, they make money hand over fist and people also keep buying games and skins so they see no incentive to really change things... a lot of cheaters prob buy skins and stuff occasionally so the game is ok with letting them come back esp if they buy multiple copies of the game or buy skins consistently (it just boosts the stats for the game in terms of player numbers and sales)
I'll tell you 100% whats going on. yes they are hiding the ping on purpose. They seem to only have 2 servers during this beta and east coast and west coast server.
I'm natively east coast, when I VPN, or even just region spoof I am connected to the west coast servers. I know they are west coast because my ping is over 60ms sometimes in the 80s.
When I don't use regular VPN or a region spoof my ping is literally 4ms in some cases.
I also noticed when i played on those west coast servers it was taking me more bullets to kill people but there were also people that I would put almost a whole clip into and they would not be half health. This made me realize these are player over 120ms
so yes in short they aren't going to show the ping this year because they are digging in using it further to implement SBMM. When you start doing well expect the jump in ping to be much higher than previous years. Previous years it would go from your lowest ms ( 0 to 20), then you would play more difficult people on 0 -20. Then you'd play less skilled people but you're at 30 to 50. Then if that didn't stop you you would play skilled people while your 30 to 50, and finally you would play bad people while you're at 60+.
This new system they are testing is going to put you on bad ping much faster, which is why they are hiding it. Also they broke the "SBMM off" region spoof in this one so everyone using those clients like no lag vpn , its not going to work. if you spoof a region its going to make you play on that region. I only spoofed to dallas as i previously mentioned and it threw me on west coast servers. In MW!!/III the way is used to work is when you spoofed region it would look for bad players at a lower ping resulting in you being on your regional server with less skilled players, until everyone started using those clients.
That's how i came up with those ping/skill buckets earlier.
this is a deal breaker for me, if they don't show ping on the release version, I'll just play warzone where they hide the ping from me for free LOL
Nah bro, I think you're onto something though, we are literally being gaslit with every death. Showing the ping would provide an explanation and give us the security of knowing that we aren't getting worse the ping just killed us.
I just wish they were more transparent with how their systems work and stuff and showed us the ping as well because then we could troubleshoot whether it was our internet, or computer or console possibly, or if it was the other player, maybe they don't want ppl blaming other players connection but sometimes that is the issue in certain situations
ill never understand why people complain so much about Cod, then still choose to play it, and buy skins.
If enough people stop playing, things will change eventually.....but that'll never happen.
I havent played Cod at all since the first month of MW2v2.....there's too many indie devs on Steam that deserve more support.....Activision doesnt deserve shit.
I agree, I only play the free to play stuff at this point with my friends as far as cod is concerned
@@dartlinfps damn I dont even do that lol I have the BOPs6 on gamepass on pc and xbox and I still havent played it, because I know what awaits me...........probably 2-3 decent games.....and then every game after that will feel like a sweat's nightmare...with everyone running around with the same 2 ARs, or SMG, and using every meta and exploit to their advantage. COD''s gameplay loop now is absolute shit compared to the golden days 15 years ago
No server browser in cod since forever tells ya all ya need to know
No official server browser since bo1 is INSANE man
Probably bad servers...
I've noticed that my ping spikez when I just look at the enemy team... but that was after setting the feed for almost 3 days straight.
I have experienced the same when either looking or shooting at some enemies, I think it's just a combo of servers and ping variation
@@dartlinfps It might even be jitter, certain cables are at least 2 decades old at this point...
Bro it's probably cause the enemy players are bots
Dude I literally played a few players and they literally acted weird as shit in game
wouldn't be surprised with them having a patent for it and also seeing delta force have bots in their beta and not even having it on the names at least like they did on bf2042 lmao
@@dartlinfps truly bro. I was stunned when I found out Delta Force was using bots and giving them life like names and putting things like YT or ttv in the name and I was like ooh shit
It reminds me of advance warfare, but with smaller maps. everyone hated that game... The TTK is 7 bodies or 2 heads wtf lol. Dsync is crazy bad, kill cams don't represent what happens on your screen. LMG have the same rang as SMG, but SMG somehow have a faster TTK. Its total braindead game play. They want everyone to Spawn, Run, Kill, Die, Repeat. All the while expecting a different result..... Actual inanity.
it honestly feels like the spawns and stuff are designed to feed everybody free kills here and there
I think it was xclusive Ace maybe that did the video on the texture streaming he limited his bandwidth and did a bunch of tests and it was pretty interesting check it out
I don't think it is what hurts it I think it's the servers and the variation in ping between players which is also why they don't show it
When I que up for core modes, I know it's rigged after the first gunfight. If it feels like I'm playing hardcore, the match has been rigged.
im one of those players that dont have a dedicated server anywhere near my country so the sbmm puts me where ever it wants and i never complained constantly playing 100+ ping despite all that i played rank i was sitting on 4.6kd but i never had any fun playing it so i just left COD for apex and after 3 years i finally played this beta and hollyy fuck this game is horrible it already recognized my stats from past titles and put me againts optic wanna be players at this rate i wont bother even coming back im just waitting for new battlefield or delta force COD is long gone.
yeah it's nuts it prioritizes the skill level way too much to the extent that it's like there's a whole diff group of players it seperates all the above average players from, games are supposed to be about fun, not a hidden ranked play constantly lol
@@dartlinfps exactly bro thats why i left even tho i was on top of the chart, if it isnt fun whats the point then.
Honestly I am not liking the beta it’s mostly though the aesthetic of the game it just feels dark and depressing to me it’s almost like they’re trying to make a more war like look yes I know cod is a war shooter but it’s never been about hyper realism there are other war shooters for that. It doesn’t feel like casual shooter that cod is supposed to be. Also still bothers me all our mw3 cosmetics doesn’t carry over.
I think it's the engine swap that has it looking all grey and tan and stuff lol it looks almost "dusty" lol I guess they're going for the realism look or something
@@dartlinfps perhaps I mean a perfect example is Rust and the maps on there they are both dusty but Rust looks much more brighter and less grey and tan like you said.
"PREACH ON BROTHA!" ...lol I have to say I haven't FULLY played CoD since 4: Modern Warfare, and MAYBE, a hint of BOps:"something or other", 10yrs ago, for the VERY reasons it sucks today, FOR ME! They STILL haven't innovated past anything, to the point of, "WOW, I need to get on AGAIN" stage, and just kept it just printing out the same crap that it has for the last 15yrs. YES, new stories and weapons, but, THAT'S IT, NOTHING MORE, other than having worse connections and minor bugs that STILL DON'T get fixed until the END of a cycle, IF THAT!!! So, for now, I'll just keep living vicariously through YOU and continue to enjoy IT, that way...lol CARRY ON!
Ping is not king since 2019 when sbmm came in the game!!
The aim assists is wayy to strong in this game ridiculous.
Easy answer sbmm/eomm manipulation
I've seen 5 other videos besides yours, and they all say don't get black hot dogs 6. I've been ahead of the game and stopp buying any cod after advanced warfare. I knew it wasn't going to mantain quality when they kept trying to put out new titles every year instead of every few years.
true, they also have gotten way more greedy and manipulative over the years...they'd still be doing loot boxes if they could get away with it...
@@dartlinfps remember when they tried saying lootboxes were akin to kindereggs inside with surprise mechanics? XD
EOMM is not working in this game
Cod is cooked
Ive seen people on 100+
Newwww XDef Video pls
We should have some news coming soon, def gotta be getting those login rewards daily between now and the 24th and save your XP tokens also to use during upcoming 2xp weekends ( I think 24th or 25th is when season 2 starts (Weds the 25th I would guess even though many sites say the 24th)