Only 2 decades of making pretty much the same game with nearly infinite budgets, and they still. STILL can’t get even the most basic things correct and tight.
@fuzzypickle5307 no it's terrible, I put the lightest attachments on my gun and still feel like I'm wearing cement boots. I think they do that on purpose
You would think a billion dollar company would deploy better servers, but instead we get the $30 battle passes full of AI generated skins that fatten some execs pockets.
@@PhiLLyPhiLLz them billions are for shareholders over a better online experience, which is such a dumb move by Activision and other companies. That's my take
You mean a Trillion Dollar Company who owns a Multi Billion Dollar Company. Microsoft owns them now. I believe they're the 3rd richest company in the world.
@@exot1c_dark066 if you missed the main message of the video, yes, playing during 'peak hours' , for example, 5-6pm when people get home from work/school, youre going to have a worse experience because of the significant load on servers. are you even paying attention?
@@exot1c_dark066 No but your experience during peak hours will be much worse. If are more sensitive, have next gen or good PC with high HZ monitor you will notice it a lot. Especialy those delayed animations. I died so many times thinking enemy was not looking at me... etc...
Ping doesn't matter anymore. All the games feel like trash. I spent all day in the worst lobbies I've ever had in BO6. It was impossible to get any kills, just hit markers for days, and yet, I would die instantly, with players never missing. The entire experience is a lie.
The idea is reduce the servers just enough so that they can minimise costs but not cause too much outrage. Remember Activision’s only priority is maximising profits. Your only “relationship” with them as a company is that you hand over your 70$ for the game, beyond that you’re just a worthless statistic. That applies to everyone.
BattleBit launched with the best servers I've played in an online game! Made by 3 devs, who took out loans to guarantee flawless servers! The player based was way higher than they expected yet there were no issues. I know it's kinda fallen off with lack of updates, but they're a great example of what's possible!
@@user-ne9sd4ow1o the games fallen off because it’s just not the style most people can play long term. But it’ll survive with a constantly flow of new players. It’s a good game supported by passionate people.
@strippins the issue is, they don't have to. They know you will buy I regardless. It's money pinching knowing if it got as worse as it could. They already count you still buying it. They have balls.
Why is everyone saying this now? I’ve been getting insta-deaths for several years now. Almost every game. Almost every interaction. I can have a UAV up, know with certainty that someone is coming around a corner, the enemy is in a full sprint incapable of shooting immediately, I hit every single shot, they have the time to pull up their gun and kill me. I can say 100% that these specific scenarios are not possible and yet they happen for me constantly. No idea how/why other people are only now experiencing this but I am glad. Maybe know something will be done about it.
My guess is that it’s even worse than it used to be, at such a point that people finally decided to look into it to get undeniable facts about the netcode being absolute garbage.
@ I guess man. I’m watching this video honestly baffled because this has been happening to me for some long to the point that the game is unplayable. Whenever I post about it, the community is so toxic they just assert it’s a “skill gap.” I guess they don’t understand the severe nature of it. I can pre-shot corners and still die 😂 It’s literally impossible. Crazy. I hope they fix it. I didn’t even buy BO6 because of this.
@@Trash_Panda_Manifesto I'm playing with my friend, and while he's constantly melting enemies, I'm having a hard time getting out of spawn. People are literally standing still 2 feet away from me, and I'm shooting 30 bullets in their backs, and they still have time to turn around and kill me. And I'm hitting every shot. It just blows my mind how that's even possible. And this is happening constantly. I'm talking like 20 times per match. And then, all of a sudden, there comes this magical moment, when out of nowhere everything runs smoothly, enemies die in 4 - 5 hits, and I'm destroying the whole lobby. Then I'm going offline, happy I finally had some fun, only to come online the next day to get fked over again. It's crazy seeing other people pulling off quad nukes, while I'm literally unable to kill 1 guy who's not even looking at me. My friend's the only reason why I haven't dropped the game yet. I only bought it to play with him in the first place... Well... Glad he talked me into CoD again. I'm gonna try switching to WiFi. Maybe with a worse connection I'll finally be able to enjoy this mess.
UPDATE: So, I don't want to speak to early, but ever since I switched to WiFi, the enemies started dying as intended - probably. Interestingly enough, I could not see anyone's level. Everybody was just level 1 and had a blank profile. Besides that, everything ran smoothly. So I jumped into a round of Nuketown and FINALLY the enemies started dropping as they should. I was a bit confused tbh, cause my WiFi connection wasn't actually bad at all. Yet the difference was day and night. I'm of course still getting shit on by SBMM, but yeah well... What do you expect. The only thing that surprises me is that I'm still playing against the biggest sweat lords, even though the whole connection thingy absolutely wrecked my stats. I'd imagine the game would see me as the biggest noob by now. Anyway, I'm happy for now. Just praying it stays this way.
@@Maevolent The comment you made about how everything will suddenly be great for a few games is exactly my experience for the last few years now. Unfortunately, it’s literally only a game or two for me. I then go right back to the insufferable experience. I usually only play a handful of games before I have to quit.
Excellent video! I play on a 1gig fiber line with an 11-15 ping to my closest server and if I do nothing to remedy these issues you’ve talked about, the game is unplayable for me. Literally. In order to have a good time in this game, I have to use WiFi, NoLagVPN, and my routers geo-filtering and QoS features. I’ve spent the better part of the last week basically earning my network engineering degree to try and figure this out. Unbelievable.
100% if you're on low ping you'll constantly feel behind the high ping players as they can still shoot you directly on their screen even though they are seeing a delayed image. The server is compensating so you feel everything in the past. Like it's rewinding time on your end.
Good work, it's unacceptable for this to be a thing. This is a fundamental pillar for any game coming from a Triple-A Studio. These issues come from laziness, corporate greed or mismanagement. Consumers shouldn't be asked to spend their money on a product that won't work properly or gaslit into thinking there isn't an issue.
The 3 devs that made BattleBit disagree 😅 They went into debt to pay for great servers and it paid off! Best hit reg I've ever felt! Now they just need to update the game. 😅 It's been awhile, but they're working on huge things!
I’ve only ever had problems with one cod and it was Cold War couldn’t play it online not sure what’s going on with this game tho I usually sit at a 18 ms and now I’m 40 and it has the nerve to go up to 100
Yeah that’s because this franchise community has brain damage . They knew for ages that the franchise had netcode issues but they ignored it to parrot this conspiracy theory.
Its crazy to me that the literal titan of the gaming industry refuses to buy more servers or purchase higher quality servers for their massively popular game. This has been a trend in recent gaming where the devs underbuy on server centers and end up over capacity. It has happened on release of every major title in the last 5 years.
The 3 devs that made BattleBit had to take out loans to pay for servers! Even with a huge influx of players there wasn't server issues. The ping and hit reg in that game is the best I've ever felt. It can be done. 🤑
I have got killed around corners more in this cod than any other. I have a great connection with hard wired fiber this video explains a lot. Thank you for this.
Absolutely nailed it. Thank you very much for addressing this issue. Keep it up. Very like that you explain the technical site or the problem. I hope they will do something about it. I knew something was off when with good ping (connected to same server) responsiveness fluctuated depending on the time of the day and amount of people playing. Even if I have good PC and frames it felt like I was playing on PS3 :D I wish some lead developer could talk about it and explain what and why is it happening and what they can do about it.
6:45 this isn't an issue. This is actually a solution, every single game with multiple character models their hitbox are bigger so you can have the same hitbox regardless of which skin you're using. This is the case for CS, pretty much all CoDs, etc. The issue is when the visible model is bigger than the hitbox
Lag compensation is unfortunately not surprising but it is unfortunate, ttk/ttd disparity is actually wild and I've never thought about that aspect but it explains a lot of what I've been experiencing. It sucks that us hard wired players with good connection are actually punished because of players with bad connection. I usually have 5-30ms latency but matches feel so much more inconsistent than the beta :/
The hit box thing is expected. I believe Xclusive did a video on how every character has the same hit box. Where a smaller model means it would be harder to see, they will have the same hit box. As for the servers, great job on the video! As a computer nerd I tried opening wire shark to see what was going on with the network traffic, but apparently their anticheat flags that, cause it just booted me from the game.
someone's already wiresharked it and there's proof of there being packets not fully being received. forgot what the figure was but it was definitely poor.
Yeah the character model doesn't matter, that test he did doesn't prove anything. Some characters will appear skinnier in certain areas and that's why you get a hitmarker when it looks like your off the target you're still hitting the actual player model, just not the skin. If they didn't make it like this every operator would have to be the exact same size in every part of the body. Really no other way to do it.
Thanks for taking the time to do this! I thought I was going crazy 🤪 glad to know I’m not the only one getting shot when the player isn’t even looking at me 🤙🏼
Battle(non)sense was my go to source for all things related to networks and gaming. I’m glad to see someone trying to continue in this space. Great vid explained my experience exactly. I’m so glad I didn’t purchase COD this year thanks to GP. Hopefully they fix it soon and for the love please stop disbanding lobbies it runes the communal aspect of the game. No way to tell if you’re getting better if you play a random group every time!!!
Amazing video! giving ppl real information aboutthis issue is very helpful. before people would just say the game felt weird or maybe the game is rigged, we didn't have a real answer. this video seems to give us a much more specific idea as to what the hell is going on with this game rn. like you said all this stuff will more than likely get fixed but at least we know for sure whats actually happening rather than coming up with theories as to what this problem could be.
This! I would love to see more RUclipsrs discussing how these factors play off each other to make a bad system for the player. The thing is, if Activision were to solve these two issues (especially server issues imo) they would have a phenomenal game which they could still hold onto between their year to year releases
It just sucks because the games aren’t organic anymore. They are manufactured. I like a more random approach. I have noticed that as a 1.3kd the game hasn’t been as ruthless at trying to keep me at that 1.0 kd that the last 2 games did. I usually just level guns and grind camos, then head back to warzone.
I also did some testing with some buddies due to the TTK inconsistencies and my findings mostly agree with yours however I find that this game favors high latency players. As in, the player with the higher latency sees the 27% discrepancy you mentioned way less often than the low latency player. Another finding is that Aim Assist tracks the "net model" and not the "client model", If you do some experiments with AA on a low latency player you can see that RAA engages well before the character model meets the shooter's crosshairs.
Yeahthis has been fucking me up. I've called it the AA aura, and it locks me in to the side or above the enemy. I also have beengettingAA through walls lol
@@kavogaming5352I can’t get past round 10 without it freezing and me dying without being able to run or shoot because I just teleport back and hitmarker
I fulky agree been playing cod since the first one and this is the worst servers and cod ever zombies is shitty and messy and agree its unplayable its annoying dont remember zombies feeling like shit like this im even usibg wured connection smh
@@Dar1usz their marketing is effective. They make people think the game will be better than the big pile of shit it was last year but it will never happen since Activision is rotten to the core. I stopped letting myself get fooled years ago and just play WZ.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. Its very informative and explains a lot. Its honestly frustrating that a billion dollar company has such bad servers.
As an EU player, i can only assume this is much worse in EU/UK, as NA players and streamers don't seem to complain about it as much. But this video sums up my experience with the game. Especially when playing on KBM, the hit detection and time to die issues are much more apparent.
On MnK it's much worse, because the questionable hit detection has even a harder time "detecting" properly, if your aim isn't frame-perfect smooth throughout shooting. And vise versa if you do happen to have a frame-perfect tracking on someone they die SO MUCH quicker than most of your kills, it almost feels like this is the only time where the game actually registers the proper amount of bullets you hit them with on time. In other instances it tends to ignore some bullets, even if they were on target, because of how much movement there is in the game, if your aim isn't perfectly smooth in the initial 5-shot burst. This is also why if someone's running towards you and you start shooting you'll kill them quicker than your average kill. Because there's no smooth tracking necessary and the hit detection doesn't need to account for too much lateral movement.
I've said this for a while, it's terrible on EU servers, lobbies filled with people of massive varying ping and connection quality just makes it a cluster fuck
Great informative video. One thing that I’m having a hard time of getting used to on this game is how it feels like your character has a 100 lb vest on when you’re moving around. I love the new movement mechanics, but I almost feel like its being over-powered by this heavy push and pull feeling when moving throughout the map. It almost makes me not want to utilize the athletic mechanics as much, and instead, just iron up and hold lanes/angles.
OMFG!! Thank you for experimenting the TTK and TTD times! I've seriously been exclusively playing Hardcore for this specific reason. Not that I wasn't already a hardcore player primarily, but this particular issue is something that has made playing core playlists so frustrating. Feeling like I'm always fighting uphill will weaker guns despite knowing that can't be true. I appreciate you taking the time to make this video. Truly. Thank you.
Its been every CoD since CoD4. Normies dont realize it cause all they play is CoD, but anyone who's gotten good at an actual competitive game like CS instantly recognizes the insane client/server desync in all the CoDs
I'm in Cambodia, and I initially thought my internet connection was the problem. I upgraded to a business package, which significantly improved my speeds. However, I've now noticed the hit registration issues even more clearly because of the better internet. What I'm trying to convey is that the problem isn't solely about our internet; it also involves the tick rate. They really need to make their servers available globally and add more servers.
I am playing on 120ms+ and the lowest I've seen is 75ms. I died countless times behind covers. Bdw, Did anyone notice, every time the volunteer crosses the crosshair there is no Aim assist?
I have lots of Problems on my Xbox one S: Textures don't load, Textures are bad at all, Skins don't load and i see the 3 same Crimsons skins in both teams for 2 min so i can't see where is on my side and who is not. But the worst i had a Nuketown bug one time where the Big Bus and the Truck where invisible and i can see everything threw it. WTF is that
I knew something was off! I’ve had more issues with this game than any other CoD. Switching to 5ghz helped packet loss too. I could barely play on 2.4ghz. Thank you for putting this effort in and shedding light on this mess. Fingers crossed they’ll improve/fix asap.
I wish some lead network developer could talk about it and explain what and why is it happening and what they can do about it. One thing which bothers me are old gen consoles which do not support higher tik rate and are bottlenecking rest of us. They should separate old gen and next gen + PC to have better servers.
you don't really need to separate them, the server netcode is very much able to change the snapshot rate per client already. but that's not an issue to begin with; it has probably more to do with the consoles running at lower framerates and the client netcode being tied to it. old gens just don't send their inputs as often. how much is that a problem is a different question.
THANK GOD you think this too.. I thought this instantly. The bit where you say about players not looking at you is 10000% what I have. 13:02 is what I have consistantly
The best video I've ever seen. You've kept it technical as hell but also i. Layman terms. Great work Man! I really hope COD sees this and works on it so I can reinstall COD BO6.
The worst is when i am hardscoping with a sniper and i shoot but the guy doesn't get hit because he does a fast mantle and "teleports" or the movement is done faster than what it should be.
I bought this game, and then returned it after an hour just because of how horrible the few multiplayer matches I played were. I watched this video to find if there was a reason for it, but it makes a lot of sense now. And it constantly feels like I’m dying instantly from someone who hasn’t even appeared on my screen yet, but it’s just because they are on 3 figure ping, and dive across “my screen”
Thanks for your efforts Lachy, greatly appreciate someone taking the time to investigate and then explaining it to the wider community in layman terms.
The thing at 11 minutes about double the no-hit-reg scenarios is NOT expected. This would be expected with packet loss, but not Higher RTT. You eliminated the RTT by firing way before the other person is running, so the delay of the higher RTT has no meaning in this. This would only be caused if information was lost on the way, which is happening fairly often. And the packet loss indicator of CoD is absolutely without function.
6 Months ago or so, on one of the COD events, they announced that BO6 would have more hit-zones to be able to adjust damage Multipliers. (I think its 17 Zones now as opposed to like 7 or 9 before. Back then I said to a friend of mine that this will generate issues because not even their current netcode could carry damage registration properly and the netcode was always one of the worst among all AAA online shooters. Looks like I was right, this is a nightmare. Glad I did not buy this yet, probably will wait for a sale in like 6 months.
I’ve noticed if the whole game starts to lag, it’s because there’s ONE PERSON in the game that has over 999 ping on the leaderboard. As soon as they leave, it goes back to normal. They need to stop trying to please everybody with bad connection. Or maybe they can segregate how many resources go to which “brackets” of SBMM. The slower moving lobbies can have slower servers, faster moving lobbies can have faster servers. That way everybody is happy and they can keep “saving” money?
This is why bo6 is going to be the last multiplayer and especially the last cod game I ever play. I know its unlikely but I do hope Activision fixes this with all the bad press releasing so I can at least feel like the 70 BUCKS I spent on it can be worth it
Literally spawned in on the map, enemy spawned opposite with his rifle aimed at the sky whilst cocking it and I'm dead instantly despite putting half a dozen shots into him. It's horrific.
And this is why once my gamepass runs out ill forget about this game, just like Cold War. To be honest even if they sort the server issues out, Recon and the spawns, its still a mediocre FPS. Almost plays and looks like a AA game and they just overcharge for it.
Great video. I have found these same issues. Live in the uk and have nearly a gig internet. Decent computer and a cod server locally. Servers are a mess and have been for some time.
I knew I wasn’t going crazy. I know everyone says the same bad shit about COD games each year a new one comes out but this one in particular has the worst desync I’ve ever experienced in a COD game. It is slowly but surely making me just not want to play the game
Good video, glad I'm not crazy. Bad enough being an 'average' player-add in this mess and leads to so much frustration. And what you mentioned is just what I've been experiencing.
Have been feeling like I have been dying so much faster than when I've been shooting the other. Nice to see a video about it. Would like private servers back or for them to fix this properly
Subscribed. Great piece of work and you have save my sanity. I often have 13-14 latency, I use a cable to a gaming router (with my qos set to prioritise my packages). … yet I have felt these issues so many times. To the point were I am questioning my skill, my settings, my (run a 4090) build. Some games I go in feel super smooth, no issues. Others, I die before they have appeared on my screen, I have shot they 100 times with no hitmarker, to be turned on, to which I blame my aim but subconsciously know I hit them 😩 Basically, if you have a job. You are going to always hit peak times when everyone is on and the game is going to be a sluggish mess
I remember in bo4 there was a very similar thing happening. Half the gun fights I would get in the enemy would be shooting out of the side of the barrel while the character model wasn’t even facing you.
This analysis and data is phenomenal, thank you. Sucks so many are experiencing this like I am, but at least we know we're all going through it a bit when we play. Hope it's something that can get improved.
I just don't understand how such a studio can overlook details like this. With us paying 60$+ with every game and having so much micro transactions, I don't see any other excuses than neglect, incompetence and greed. I find it outrageous that I can't play a good COD anymore. I'm just waiting each year again and again that they will finally release another title that will be worth buying, looks like this year is another miss.
9:43 it’s called client side authority, it’s standard amongst first person shooters, I don’t know of a single shooter that does server side hit authorization, it’d be much more unpredictable because what’s on your screen and what’s on the server would be de-synced much worse.
The thing about misaligned weapons shooting sideways etc is a fairly common issue and it boils down to the amount of interpolation used on player entities and shots not conforming to said interpolation buffer. This results in shots being fired before the shooter has reached a visual state of where it should be shooting. This gets a ton worse when you start figuring in animation states and all the various trickery they are doing to model skeletons (bending the waiste, spine etc). Like in your example, you can visually see the gun recoil and a shot coming out.. the shot in this case is sent separately to what is being interpolated (i.e it doesn't wait).
Its possible that in there attempts to create all these animations and stuff for movement and deaths there overloading the servers slightly. Example of this would be thst when the lobby is full (especially at peak hours) the servers are having to recieve so much info that they cant keep up, furthermore the hitboxs probably have these issues due to them trying to change the way the hit reg works on them (the whole sectioning thing they are using currently). Idk these are just things ive been thinking.
In my county, ping 60 is the lowest it could ever be. In CoD, it's 85 most of the time, and I rarely feel something wrong besides broken animations, which are terrifying.
Perfect discription of what I've felt during the evening in the UK. In HC MOSH Pit if you hold cross hair headshot height and walk/straife looking for headshots you always die before you see the enemy. There speed vs yours are outa sync.
Thank you for putting this out there. The dsync issue has been the only problem I have had with the game. It seems most games I'm either getting instant unalived. Or I get unalive comms from other players saying "how". I know exactly what they are asking. How did that happen so fast? Or how did they see me? And trust I ain't that good. It's very fun to play. But that is a major problem that begins to wear down the player after a few games. Thanks again for the video TB.
Every single COD has been terrible in regard to latency, I believe the ping they display on the score board is an absolute load of shit! For Christ sake you can hear people with accents from the other side of the world but some how we have the same latency! BF4 managed to fix this issue and that was in 2013!!!
BF4 60hz servers feel so good!! When I hop back on I question why shooters haven't gotten any better? BattleBit is the only recent game thats had flawless hit reg and servers! Made by 3 devs.. 😑
Battlefield (mostly) fixed many of these issues years ago. Was recently playing BF1 and everything feels so much smoother than this “new” COD. On an original Xbox one with maps waaaay bigger, that look much better, 64 players, vehicles, destruction, levolution, etc. and it came out in 2016… can snipe 300m across a map with varying bullet drop and velocities and always hits when I see it hit. Can count on my hand how many times something like shown in this video has happened to me in battlefield. And that is on 90% 30 tick rate servers. I’ve played cod since 2009 mw2 and battlefield since bf3. Not enough care is put into COD. Shitty servers, corporate greed, bad maps, excessive lag, no polish are just a few things plaguing this game. Even the newest battlefield fell victim to some of these things. You’d think cod would have figured it out by now with only 12 players in a game on ridiculously tiny maps. The gunplay feels awful most games. Combine that with SBMM makes it even worse because if you’re good, they’re only gonna match you with good players, instead of matching you with the nearest players with the best connection. Old CODs used to have no SBMM and they often feel better than this… just a tragedy of complacency and greed.
Not only that the weapon balancing just feels like a mess with smg or assualt rifles being so generic. Old cods made all weapons feel unique and special with how they were made so different from one-another. But now every gun almost feels they same in a weird way, could just be me but you cant deny that old cods weapon were all different from each other in a great way.
that instance where people are jumping and it looks like they're not looking at me and then I instantly die has been happening to me in COD for the last 3 or 4 games. I though that I was the only one experiencing that.
They know the numbers are high that's why NVIDIA Gforce has blocked the game launching they can't handle the load especially coming in from ultimate so blocked it great work dude cheers get subscribed ppl help the guy out.
Wow that explains a whole lot. I am in Trinidad in the Caribbean and my ping mm is always 63 to 68 all the time. Always wondering why when I am shooting someone and the hit is registering they still have time to raise their gun and shoot me
75% of my deaths are instant like that. I am on a good connection, ethernet. And my lobbies always, and i mean always have me dying around corners. Often times it feels like 1 bullet hit me. And my enemies just always seem to be staring at me, and able to turn on me. Despite me being generally above average at shooter games. The problems COD has, are massive problems for a competitive game. And it makes it unfun to play. And thats not even mentioning the cheating problems with controller mods. I have my xbox on ethernet, as well as my pc. And its far worse on my pc. Maybe ill try wireless on my xbox, and see if it makes it any different. Cause as it is, cod is just brutal to try to enjoy.
Character models are predetermined rectangles and circles that are independent of operator skins. Most player models in almost any game will have areas, that count as hits even though you aren’t directly aiming at them.
I know there's been issues with all servers on CoD for a while now, but it's so noticeable on this release!!! It also feels like the input lag is significantly noticeable too. In my first few games, it also felt like I had aim assist on keyboard and mouse! I was making shots I really felt I was not moving the mouse correctly for. It only took a few games for that to correct itself.
Thank you for this. I am in the uk too and have been experiencing the same issues, plays nothing like the beta. Seems to get two shorted by any gun or been killed before I was on the screen etc.
Thanks brother for all the work you put in i thought i was going crazy it was driving me nuts! You are right i had a good experience in beta and this is a mess
It is a well known fact they use 20 tick rate servers instead of 60 tick or better servers. If they upgrade the servers and pay for some elasticity so peak player counts would not overload the servers this would not be an issue.
Well done, I loved this video!! Everything you talk about here is happening in bo6. This crap is driving me crazy and oissing me off. Now I know we’ve had some of this in the past, but b06 for me is terrible, unfortunately. Damn I hope they fix this game.
Only 2 decades of making pretty much the same game with nearly infinite budgets, and they still. STILL can’t get even the most basic things correct and tight.
If it ain’t broke, done fix it. How much money have yall given them over those 2 decades??? Why would they change anything now lol it’s clockwork
"Basic" 😂😂😂
@@TheJohhnyE hit reg is basic... lmao
@@xParadigm "they" all left to make titanfall and then left respawn after that. "they" have been replaced with dei.
stop giving them money xD
Not to mention, one game you feel like you're flying around on ice skates and the next game you feel like you're trudging through oatmeal.
@@drop830 me rn like the update and I’m still lagging it’s insane can’t even see my gun optic
@drop830 it's not just me!!! Literally from one game to the next and movement feels awful. Even in mw3 I thought I was losing my mind
@fuzzypickle5307 no it's terrible, I put the lightest attachments on my gun and still feel like I'm wearing cement boots. I think they do that on purpose
@drop830 yeah it seems like it. Might be related to the servers or something
@@drop830 I think you're just exceptionally bad
You would think a billion dollar company would deploy better servers, but instead we get the $30 battle passes full of AI generated skins that fatten some execs pockets.
@@PhiLLyPhiLLz Don't forget the 20€ dlc to have sound ingame 😂.
@@PhiLLyPhiLLz them billions are for shareholders over a better online experience, which is such a dumb move by Activision and other companies. That's my take
You mean a Trillion Dollar Company who owns a Multi Billion Dollar Company. Microsoft owns them now. I believe they're the 3rd richest company in the world.
Companies* theres like 4 of em working on this shit XD
And you sheep still buy and play the game lol news flash cod hasn’t been good since like 2014-15.
So basically if you work full time, school full time or live in countries without dedicated servers you should completely avoid this game
nobody said that bro😂
@@exot1c_dark066 if you missed the main message of the video, yes, playing during 'peak hours' , for example, 5-6pm when people get home from work/school, youre going to have a worse experience because of the significant load on servers. are you even paying attention?
@@exot1c_dark066 No but your experience during peak hours will be much worse. If are more sensitive, have next gen or good PC with high HZ monitor you will notice it a lot. Especialy those delayed animations. I died so many times thinking enemy was not looking at me... etc...
nobody cares
@@henrymaddox-qm8dtNobody cares about you in general. What's your point?
Ping doesn't matter anymore. All the games feel like trash. I spent all day in the worst lobbies I've ever had in BO6. It was impossible to get any kills, just hit markers for days, and yet, I would die instantly, with players never missing. The entire experience is a lie.
Yet you bought it...
@kvltst facts
@@cokeweasel1064 i meaan i got gamepass lol
So.. You're trash at the game and it's everyone else's fault. A tale that has been told since the very first CoD game. 😂
Well , no one ever complains about having a tiny ping
As an old old school COD multiplayer player, this video just described my experience in every cod multiplayer I've ever played.
Dito !
same here and the movement makes it worse.crazy how hit boxes are still crap after all these years. Same old COD!
Yes this has always been an issue in cod but it seems to be alot worse in this game specifically
Exactly and I'm not defending it but it's still the most played shooter if all time lol
It's way worse in this game though. I went back to Mw3 and the different is night and day
Cod makes SO much money there really is no excuse for not investing in proper servers
The idea is reduce the servers just enough so that they can minimise costs but not cause too much outrage. Remember Activision’s only priority is maximising profits. Your only “relationship” with them as a company is that you hand over your 70$ for the game, beyond that you’re just a worthless statistic. That applies to everyone.
@@Ryan-pz2whexactly this
BattleBit launched with the best servers I've played in an online game! Made by 3 devs, who took out loans to guarantee flawless servers! The player based was way higher than they expected yet there were no issues. I know it's kinda fallen off with lack of updates, but they're a great example of what's possible!
@@user-ne9sd4ow1o the games fallen off because it’s just not the style most people can play long term. But it’ll survive with a constantly flow of new players. It’s a good game supported by passionate people.
@strippins the issue is, they don't have to. They know you will buy I regardless. It's money pinching knowing if it got as worse as it could. They already count you still buying it. They have balls.
Why is everyone saying this now? I’ve been getting insta-deaths for several years now. Almost every game. Almost every interaction. I can have a UAV up, know with certainty that someone is coming around a corner, the enemy is in a full sprint incapable of shooting immediately, I hit every single shot, they have the time to pull up their gun and kill me. I can say 100% that these specific scenarios are not possible and yet they happen for me constantly. No idea how/why other people are only now experiencing this but I am glad. Maybe know something will be done about it.
My guess is that it’s even worse than it used to be, at such a point that people finally decided to look into it to get undeniable facts about the netcode being absolute garbage.
@ I guess man. I’m watching this video honestly baffled because this has been happening to me for some long to the point that the game is unplayable. Whenever I post about it, the community is so toxic they just assert it’s a “skill gap.” I guess they don’t understand the severe nature of it. I can pre-shot corners and still die 😂 It’s literally impossible. Crazy. I hope they fix it. I didn’t even buy BO6 because of this.
@@Trash_Panda_Manifesto I'm playing with my friend, and while he's constantly melting enemies, I'm having a hard time getting out of spawn. People are literally standing still 2 feet away from me, and I'm shooting 30 bullets in their backs, and they still have time to turn around and kill me. And I'm hitting every shot. It just blows my mind how that's even possible. And this is happening constantly. I'm talking like 20 times per match.
And then, all of a sudden, there comes this magical moment, when out of nowhere everything runs smoothly, enemies die in 4 - 5 hits, and I'm destroying the whole lobby.
Then I'm going offline, happy I finally had some fun, only to come online the next day to get fked over again.
It's crazy seeing other people pulling off quad nukes, while I'm literally unable to kill 1 guy who's not even looking at me.
My friend's the only reason why I haven't dropped the game yet. I only bought it to play with him in the first place... Well... Glad he talked me into CoD again.
I'm gonna try switching to WiFi. Maybe with a worse connection I'll finally be able to enjoy this mess.
UPDATE: So, I don't want to speak to early, but ever since I switched to WiFi, the enemies started dying as intended - probably.
Interestingly enough, I could not see anyone's level. Everybody was just level 1 and had a blank profile.
Besides that, everything ran smoothly.
So I jumped into a round of Nuketown and FINALLY the enemies started dropping as they should.
I was a bit confused tbh, cause my WiFi connection wasn't actually bad at all. Yet the difference was day and night.
I'm of course still getting shit on by SBMM, but yeah well... What do you expect.
The only thing that surprises me is that I'm still playing against the biggest sweat lords, even though the whole connection thingy absolutely wrecked my stats. I'd imagine the game would see me as the biggest noob by now.
Anyway, I'm happy for now. Just praying it stays this way.
@@Maevolent The comment you made about how everything will suddenly be great for a few games is exactly my experience for the last few years now. Unfortunately, it’s literally only a game or two for me. I then go right back to the insufferable experience. I usually only play a handful of games before I have to quit.
Thanks for testing all this shit man. The TTK to TTD disparity feels so awful in matches.
Excellent video!
I play on a 1gig fiber line with an 11-15 ping to my closest server and if I do nothing to remedy these issues you’ve talked about, the game is unplayable for me. Literally.
In order to have a good time in this game, I have to use WiFi, NoLagVPN, and my routers geo-filtering and QoS features. I’ve spent the better part of the last week basically earning my network engineering degree to try and figure this out. Unbelievable.
100% if you're on low ping you'll constantly feel behind the high ping players as they can still shoot you directly on their screen even though they are seeing a delayed image. The server is compensating so you feel everything in the past. Like it's rewinding time on your end.
So true this explains what is happening to me. I get 7 to 8 sometimes as low as 6 and I get destroyed when I know I was on the money
Any tips on how to tune router settings for a better experience?
so the best solution would be ditching the cable connection in favour of worse, Wifi connection?
@@marcelina6741 It’s some backwards logic, but yes. It makes a pretty big difference!
I refuse to believe these are 60hz servers
Some are and some not. Also there is a factor of old gen consoles not supporting higher tik rate.
@@JPDD2 they're 20 tick rate servers
Can't be gotta be like 15-20 ticks this is the worst they've been
This is not a console thing at all the Battlefield games for example support 60hz servers just fine this is a cost cutting measure @@TeoSVK
@@ICANTEWGF no they’re not. They’re 60 hz servers.
Good work, it's unacceptable for this to be a thing. This is a fundamental pillar for any game coming from a Triple-A Studio. These issues come from laziness, corporate greed or mismanagement. Consumers shouldn't be asked to spend their money on a product that won't work properly or gaslit into thinking there isn't an issue.
Yet another example of AAA not meaning anything these days...
They are a small mom and pop game. They can’t afford a bunch of servers don’t get mad
The 3 devs that made BattleBit disagree 😅 They went into debt to pay for great servers and it paid off! Best hit reg I've ever felt! Now they just need to update the game. 😅 It's been awhile, but they're working on huge things!
Mate, I'll say this is your best work yet. The technical deep dives are super interesting and informative and it's a niche as of yet unfilled. Big ups
Took the words right out of my mouth. Exactly what I was thinking.
Not only the servers are a mess but the constant game crashes and errors because of memory leaks are unacceptable
I notice if you try overclocking anything the game crashes more. Turn of overclocks and XMP and it might work better.
@ my systems not overclocked
Y’all must have faulty systems and bad internet. I have absolutely no problems.
@ systems fine and internet is great but good for you fella glad your having no issues with it
No crashes or memory leaks here
I love how the community concludes that there's "skill based damage" instead of the servers just being utter garbage.
I’ve only ever had problems with one cod and it was Cold War couldn’t play it online not sure what’s going on with this game tho I usually sit at a 18 ms and now I’m 40 and it has the nerve to go up to 100
Basically, that's Activision's implementation of "skill based damage". Just give the community garbage servers and net code.
Yeah that’s because this franchise community has brain damage .
They knew for ages that the franchise had netcode issues but they ignored it to parrot this conspiracy theory.
Its crazy to me that the literal titan of the gaming industry refuses to buy more servers or purchase higher quality servers for their massively popular game. This has been a trend in recent gaming where the devs underbuy on server centers and end up over capacity. It has happened on release of every major title in the last 5 years.
Money
The 3 devs that made BattleBit had to take out loans to pay for servers! Even with a huge influx of players there wasn't server issues. The ping and hit reg in that game is the best I've ever felt. It can be done. 🤑
I appreciate you guys calling them out on there bs on your platforms we need this and we need change
Its been so bad I have just stuck to playing solo Zombies.
I have got killed around corners more in this cod than any other. I have a great connection with hard wired fiber this video explains a lot. Thank you for this.
Amazing work. Will be referencing this video in today's upload! Cheers!
I'm here because of blame truths video 😊👍🏻 just subscribed to the tactical brit.
@@davidoconnor3201 Me too - great video
@@BlameTruth find Jesus dude.
Repent turn to Jesus, clean up your language and anger
Sooo can u stop shooting earlier and still get the kill? Is the red X delayed? Don't get me wrong, im still not playing this vile steaming mound
Absolutely nailed it. Thank you very much for addressing this issue. Keep it up. Very like that you explain the technical site or the problem. I hope they will do something about it. I knew something was off when with good ping (connected to same server) responsiveness fluctuated depending on the time of the day and amount of people playing. Even if I have good PC and frames it felt like I was playing on PS3 :D I wish some lead developer could talk about it and explain what and why is it happening and what they can do about it.
6:45 this isn't an issue. This is actually a solution, every single game with multiple character models their hitbox are bigger so you can have the same hitbox regardless of which skin you're using. This is the case for CS, pretty much all CoDs, etc. The issue is when the visible model is bigger than the hitbox
Exactly what I wanted to point out too.
Lag compensation is unfortunately not surprising but it is unfortunate, ttk/ttd disparity is actually wild and I've never thought about that aspect but it explains a lot of what I've been experiencing. It sucks that us hard wired players with good connection are actually punished because of players with bad connection. I usually have 5-30ms latency but matches feel so much more inconsistent than the beta :/
The hit box thing is expected. I believe Xclusive did a video on how every character has the same hit box. Where a smaller model means it would be harder to see, they will have the same hit box. As for the servers, great job on the video!
As a computer nerd I tried opening wire shark to see what was going on with the network traffic, but apparently their anticheat flags that, cause it just booted me from the game.
Jgod I thought did that video. I was going to comment exactly that about the hit boxes being same even though operators are different in size
someone's already wiresharked it and there's proof of there being packets not fully being received. forgot what the figure was but it was definitely poor.
Yeah the character model doesn't matter, that test he did doesn't prove anything. Some characters will appear skinnier in certain areas and that's why you get a hitmarker when it looks like your off the target you're still hitting the actual player model, just not the skin. If they didn't make it like this every operator would have to be the exact same size in every part of the body. Really no other way to do it.
Thanks for taking the time to do this! I thought I was going crazy 🤪 glad to know I’m not the only one getting shot when the player isn’t even looking at me 🤙🏼
Thanks!
I was losing my marbles when I noticed I die instantly. People shoot me before I’m around a corner. Also my bullets take longer to kill.
Battle(non)sense was my go to source for all things related to networks and gaming. I’m glad to see someone trying to continue in this space. Great vid explained my experience exactly.
I’m so glad I didn’t purchase COD this year thanks to GP. Hopefully they fix it soon and for the love please stop disbanding lobbies it runes the communal aspect of the game. No way to tell if you’re getting better if you play a random group every time!!!
Amazing video! giving ppl real information aboutthis issue is very helpful. before people would just say the game felt weird or maybe the game is rigged, we didn't have a real answer. this video seems to give us a much more specific idea as to what the hell is going on with this game rn. like you said all this stuff will more than likely get fixed but at least we know for sure whats actually happening rather than coming up with theories as to what this problem could be.
This is why SBMM is horrible in cod not only you are being paired against really good people but the desync and hit registration feels really bad
Even if you have good setup the connection will f. u. up. It is like having super car and racing with bad tires.
This! I would love to see more RUclipsrs discussing how these factors play off each other to make a bad system for the player. The thing is, if Activision were to solve these two issues (especially server issues imo) they would have a phenomenal game which they could still hold onto between their year to year releases
Go play hard core mode and get over it, everyone has an Easy Button in HC mode... n00b.
It just sucks because the games aren’t organic anymore. They are manufactured. I like a more random approach. I have noticed that as a 1.3kd the game hasn’t been as ruthless at trying to keep me at that 1.0 kd that the last 2 games did. I usually just level guns and grind camos, then head back to warzone.
Yup
I also did some testing with some buddies due to the TTK inconsistencies and my findings mostly agree with yours however I find that this game favors high latency players. As in, the player with the higher latency sees the 27% discrepancy you mentioned way less often than the low latency player. Another finding is that Aim Assist tracks the "net model" and not the "client model", If you do some experiments with AA on a low latency player you can see that RAA engages well before the character model meets the shooter's crosshairs.
@@eyegouger77 now this is very interesting and sounds about right
Yeahthis has been fucking me up. I've called it the AA aura, and it locks me in to the side or above the enemy. I also have beengettingAA through walls lol
I’ve never seen lag this bad in a cod game before. Even in zombies the game is nearly unplayable
It was around this bad in mw3 when it released, also during the end of mw2 life cycle, when the packet burst issue became common.
Unplayable is it a bit of an exaggeration tbh
@@kavogaming5352I can’t get past round 10 without it freezing and me dying without being able to run or shoot because I just teleport back and hitmarker
@@cheif-connor4559 that's not good man.
I fulky agree been playing cod since the first one and this is the worst servers and cod ever zombies is shitty and messy and agree its unplayable its annoying dont remember zombies feeling like shit like this im even usibg wured connection smh
Another reason not to support cod with money. They need to stop being rewarded with ass servers.
They need to stop being rewarded for developing absolutely terrible games period.
Agreed..
@@R-cv5tv how terrible games are getting more and more sales with every year ( this year again BO6 broken all records )
wheres logic ?
@@Dar1usz their marketing is effective. They make people think the game will be better than the big pile of shit it was last year but it will never happen since Activision is rotten to the core. I stopped letting myself get fooled years ago and just play WZ.
Yes @drTopLift aka whiteywice you should stop playing wz 20+days played in that game is not healthy 👀👀
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. Its very informative and explains a lot. Its honestly frustrating that a billion dollar company has such bad servers.
As an EU player, i can only assume this is much worse in EU/UK, as NA players and streamers don't seem to complain about it as much. But this video sums up my experience with the game. Especially when playing on KBM, the hit detection and time to die issues are much more apparent.
On MnK it's much worse, because the questionable hit detection has even a harder time "detecting" properly, if your aim isn't frame-perfect smooth throughout shooting. And vise versa if you do happen to have a frame-perfect tracking on someone they die SO MUCH quicker than most of your kills, it almost feels like this is the only time where the game actually registers the proper amount of bullets you hit them with on time. In other instances it tends to ignore some bullets, even if they were on target, because of how much movement there is in the game, if your aim isn't perfectly smooth in the initial 5-shot burst. This is also why if someone's running towards you and you start shooting you'll kill them quicker than your average kill. Because there's no smooth tracking necessary and the hit detection doesn't need to account for too much lateral movement.
I've said this for a while, it's terrible on EU servers, lobbies filled with people of massive varying ping and connection quality just makes it a cluster fuck
“Worse in Europe”
Laughs in Oceania
Nothing has changed, the game is garbage.
The game is the best in over a decade,
@@fiend2society nope....its trash
and somehow again garbage game broken all records, you are butthurting minority, sry but facts
@@fiend2society its not bru the hit regs are horrendous
Great informative video.
One thing that I’m having a hard time of getting used to on this game is how it feels like your character has a 100 lb vest on when you’re moving around. I love the new movement mechanics, but I almost feel like its being over-powered by this heavy push and pull feeling when moving throughout the map. It almost makes me not want to utilize the athletic mechanics as much, and instead, just iron up and hold lanes/angles.
OMFG!! Thank you for experimenting the TTK and TTD times! I've seriously been exclusively playing Hardcore for this specific reason. Not that I wasn't already a hardcore player primarily, but this particular issue is something that has made playing core playlists so frustrating. Feeling like I'm always fighting uphill will weaker guns despite knowing that can't be true. I appreciate you taking the time to make this video. Truly. Thank you.
All the lag comp and desync issues are probably way worse when you factor in SBMM.
Its been every CoD since CoD4. Normies dont realize it cause all they play is CoD, but anyone who's gotten good at an actual competitive game like CS instantly recognizes the insane client/server desync in all the CoDs
I'm in Cambodia, and I initially thought my internet connection was the problem. I upgraded to a business package, which significantly improved my speeds. However, I've now noticed the hit registration issues even more clearly because of the better internet. What I'm trying to convey is that the problem isn't solely about our internet; it also involves the tick rate. They really need to make their servers available globally and add more servers.
I am playing on 120ms+ and the lowest I've seen is 75ms. I died countless times behind covers. Bdw, Did anyone notice, every time the volunteer crosses the crosshair there is no Aim assist?
Probably using MnK so it didn’t distort the results
I have lots of Problems on my Xbox one S: Textures don't load, Textures are bad at all, Skins don't load and i see the 3 same Crimsons skins in both teams for 2 min so i can't see where is on my side and who is not. But the worst i had a Nuketown bug one time where the Big Bus and the Truck where invisible and i can see everything threw it. WTF is that
I knew something was off! I’ve had more issues with this game than any other CoD. Switching to 5ghz helped packet loss too. I could barely play on 2.4ghz. Thank you for putting this effort in and shedding light on this mess. Fingers crossed they’ll improve/fix asap.
I wish some lead network developer could talk about it and explain what and why is it happening and what they can do about it. One thing which bothers me are old gen consoles which do not support higher tik rate and are bottlenecking rest of us. They should separate old gen and next gen + PC to have better servers.
you don't really need to separate them, the server netcode is very much able to change the snapshot rate per client already. but that's not an issue to begin with; it has probably more to do with the consoles running at lower framerates and the client netcode being tied to it. old gens just don't send their inputs as often. how much is that a problem is a different question.
THANK GOD you think this too.. I thought this instantly. The bit where you say about players not looking at you is 10000% what I have. 13:02 is what I have consistantly
The best video I've ever seen. You've kept it technical as hell but also i. Layman terms. Great work Man! I really hope COD sees this and works on it so I can reinstall COD BO6.
1 month later: feels even worse
Excellent video. Thank you. I rage quit last night because of the difference in ttk. It only started after 9pm for me. Very frustrating!!
The worst is when i am hardscoping with a sniper and i shoot but the guy doesn't get hit because he does a fast mantle and "teleports" or the movement is done faster than what it should be.
Clearly it's cuz you're not quick scoping 😅
I watched a guy drop shoot me once only to see on the replay he was up and down three times!
I bought this game, and then returned it after an hour just because of how horrible the few multiplayer matches I played were. I watched this video to find if there was a reason for it, but it makes a lot of sense now. And it constantly feels like I’m dying instantly from someone who hasn’t even appeared on my screen yet, but it’s just because they are on 3 figure ping, and dive across “my screen”
Thanks for your efforts Lachy, greatly appreciate someone taking the time to investigate and then explaining it to the wider community in layman terms.
This deserves more views man. Makes me wanna dodge this game even more tbh.
Quick! Omni dive outta the way 😅
The thing at 11 minutes about double the no-hit-reg scenarios is NOT expected. This would be expected with packet loss, but not Higher RTT. You eliminated the RTT by firing way before the other person is running, so the delay of the higher RTT has no meaning in this.
This would only be caused if information was lost on the way, which is happening fairly often. And the packet loss indicator of CoD is absolutely without function.
6 Months ago or so, on one of the COD events, they announced that BO6 would have more hit-zones to be able to adjust damage Multipliers. (I think its 17 Zones now as opposed to like 7 or 9 before.
Back then I said to a friend of mine that this will generate issues because not even their current netcode could carry damage registration properly and the netcode was always one of the worst among all AAA online shooters.
Looks like I was right, this is a nightmare.
Glad I did not buy this yet, probably will wait for a sale in like 6 months.
I’ve noticed if the whole game starts to lag, it’s because there’s ONE PERSON in the game that has over 999 ping on the leaderboard. As soon as they leave, it goes back to normal.
They need to stop trying to please everybody with bad connection. Or maybe they can segregate how many resources go to which “brackets” of SBMM. The slower moving lobbies can have slower servers, faster moving lobbies can have faster servers. That way everybody is happy and they can keep “saving” money?
How do you see ping on leaderboard?
@@dairevickersthink you gotta be on pc
@@MouthDrops I am yeah
@@dairevickers oh then idk. I thought pc players were able to see ping on the scoreboard because my buddy who plays on pc can see ping.
This is why bo6 is going to be the last multiplayer and especially the last cod game I ever play. I know its unlikely but I do hope Activision fixes this with all the bad press releasing so I can at least feel like the 70 BUCKS I spent on it can be worth it
Literally spawned in on the map, enemy spawned opposite with his rifle aimed at the sky whilst cocking it and I'm dead instantly despite putting half a dozen shots into him. It's horrific.
And this is why once my gamepass runs out ill forget about this game, just like Cold War. To be honest even if they sort the server issues out, Recon and the spawns, its still a mediocre FPS. Almost plays and looks like a AA game and they just overcharge for it.
Great video. I have found these same issues. Live in the uk and have nearly a gig internet. Decent computer and a cod server locally. Servers are a mess and have been for some time.
I knew I wasn’t going crazy. I know everyone says the same bad shit about COD games each year a new one comes out but this one in particular has the worst desync I’ve ever experienced in a COD game. It is slowly but surely making me just not want to play the game
Good video, glad I'm not crazy. Bad enough being an 'average' player-add in this mess and leads to so much frustration. And what you mentioned is just what I've been experiencing.
Have been feeling like I have been dying so much faster than when I've been shooting the other. Nice to see a video about it. Would like private servers back or for them to fix this properly
Subscribed. Great piece of work and you have save my sanity. I often have 13-14 latency, I use a cable to a gaming router (with my qos set to prioritise my packages). … yet I have felt these issues so many times. To the point were I am questioning my skill, my settings, my (run a 4090) build.
Some games I go in feel super smooth, no issues. Others, I die before they have appeared on my screen, I have shot they 100 times with no hitmarker, to be turned on, to which I blame my aim but subconsciously know I hit them 😩
Basically, if you have a job. You are going to always hit peak times when everyone is on and the game is going to be a sluggish mess
Last night after 5 pm as u said to benny i had packet burst and juddering server played today and it was fine hit reg and aim was on point
I remember in bo4 there was a very similar thing happening. Half the gun fights I would get in the enemy would be shooting out of the side of the barrel while the character model wasn’t even facing you.
This analysis and data is phenomenal, thank you. Sucks so many are experiencing this like I am, but at least we know we're all going through it a bit when we play. Hope it's something that can get improved.
I just don't understand how such a studio can overlook details like this. With us paying 60$+ with every game and having so much micro transactions, I don't see any other excuses than neglect, incompetence and greed. I find it outrageous that I can't play a good COD anymore. I'm just waiting each year again and again that they will finally release another title that will be worth buying, looks like this year is another miss.
9:43 it’s called client side authority, it’s standard amongst first person shooters, I don’t know of a single shooter that does server side hit authorization, it’d be much more unpredictable because what’s on your screen and what’s on the server would be de-synced much worse.
The thing about misaligned weapons shooting sideways etc is a fairly common issue and it boils down to the amount of interpolation used on player entities and shots not conforming to said interpolation buffer.
This results in shots being fired before the shooter has reached a visual state of where it should be shooting.
This gets a ton worse when you start figuring in animation states and all the various trickery they are doing to model skeletons (bending the waiste, spine etc).
Like in your example, you can visually see the gun recoil and a shot coming out.. the shot in this case is sent separately to what is being interpolated (i.e it doesn't wait).
Great video. Appreciate your attention to detail and time spent 🤙
Its possible that in there attempts to create all these animations and stuff for movement and deaths there overloading the servers slightly. Example of this would be thst when the lobby is full (especially at peak hours) the servers are having to recieve so much info that they cant keep up, furthermore the hitboxs probably have these issues due to them trying to change the way the hit reg works on them (the whole sectioning thing they are using currently). Idk these are just things ive been thinking.
In my county, ping 60 is the lowest it could ever be. In CoD, it's 85 most of the time, and I rarely feel something wrong besides broken animations, which are terrifying.
The dsync is absolutely inexcusable for a triple A title. 🤦
Perfect discription of what I've felt during the evening in the UK.
In HC MOSH Pit if you hold cross hair headshot height and walk/straife looking for headshots you always die before you see the enemy. There speed vs yours are outa sync.
Thank you for putting this out there. The dsync issue has been the only problem I have had with the game. It seems most games I'm either getting instant unalived. Or I get unalive comms from other players saying "how". I know exactly what they are asking. How did that happen so fast? Or how did they see me? And trust I ain't that good. It's very fun to play. But that is a major problem that begins to wear down the player after a few games. Thanks again for the video TB.
Every single COD has been terrible in regard to latency, I believe the ping they display on the score board is an absolute load of shit! For Christ sake you can hear people with accents from the other side of the world but some how we have the same latency! BF4 managed to fix this issue and that was in 2013!!!
@@maverickg3gbls132 they literally took it out this cod there is no ping markers
@@drakebvibing5953 enable it in settings
BF4 60hz servers feel so good!! When I hop back on I question why shooters haven't gotten any better? BattleBit is the only recent game thats had flawless hit reg and servers! Made by 3 devs.. 😑
@@drakebvibing5953 so your argument is that because they removed it for this release, all the previous releases I referenced were legit? Bahhhahah.
Battlefield (mostly) fixed many of these issues years ago. Was recently playing BF1 and everything feels so much smoother than this “new” COD.
On an original Xbox one with maps waaaay bigger, that look much better, 64 players, vehicles, destruction, levolution, etc. and it came out in 2016… can snipe 300m across a map with varying bullet drop and velocities and always hits when I see it hit. Can count on my hand how many times something like shown in this video has happened to me in battlefield. And that is on 90% 30 tick rate servers.
I’ve played cod since 2009 mw2 and battlefield since bf3. Not enough care is put into COD. Shitty servers, corporate greed, bad maps, excessive lag, no polish are just a few things plaguing this game. Even the newest battlefield fell victim to some of these things. You’d think cod would have figured it out by now with only 12 players in a game on ridiculously tiny maps.
The gunplay feels awful most games. Combine that with SBMM makes it even worse because if you’re good, they’re only gonna match you with good players, instead of matching you with the nearest players with the best connection. Old CODs used to have no SBMM and they often feel better than this… just a tragedy of complacency and greed.
Not only that the weapon balancing just feels like a mess with smg or assualt rifles being so generic. Old cods made all weapons feel unique and special with how they were made so different from one-another.
But now every gun almost feels they same in a weird way, could just be me but you cant deny that old cods weapon were all different from each other in a great way.
Takes time and effort to make things feel unique. Microsoft can't afford that 😅
that instance where people are jumping and it looks like they're not looking at me and then I instantly die has been happening to me in COD for the last 3 or 4 games. I though that I was the only one experiencing that.
Good you put this to light, maybe we will get better servers and so on if this gets enough attention.
I miss the Cod 4 days where the lag and delay was always the same from game to game. It sucked, but you could get used to it.
Facts. Its the inconsistency that makes it feel bad
Servers for me last Friday were fine actually felt really good. But today it was rough. Choppy and dysynced
Same:( is there no solution?
@@Donovan-vb3ig I'm chalking it up to be just because the game is new and what was mentioned in the video. They need more servers
the xm4 doesnt shoot that fast. its totally normal that you dont always get a hit reg. you could even see that in the slowmo.
They know the numbers are high that's why NVIDIA Gforce has blocked the game launching they can't handle the load especially coming in from ultimate so blocked it great work dude cheers get subscribed ppl help the guy out.
Wow that explains a whole lot. I am in Trinidad in the Caribbean and my ping mm is always 63 to 68 all the time. Always wondering why when I am shooting someone and the hit is registering they still have time to raise their gun and shoot me
Makes sense why my gameplay scores and k/d is so different when I can get lunchtime games (not frequent lol) vs when I'm at home in the evenings
75% of my deaths are instant like that. I am on a good connection, ethernet. And my lobbies always, and i mean always have me dying around corners.
Often times it feels like 1 bullet hit me. And my enemies just always seem to be staring at me, and able to turn on me. Despite me being generally above average at shooter games. The problems COD has, are massive problems for a competitive game. And it makes it unfun to play. And thats not even mentioning the cheating problems with controller mods.
I have my xbox on ethernet, as well as my pc. And its far worse on my pc. Maybe ill try wireless on my xbox, and see if it makes it any different. Cause as it is, cod is just brutal to try to enjoy.
@@HeartInLight agreed 100%
Character models are predetermined rectangles and circles that are independent of operator skins. Most player models in almost any game will have areas, that count as hits even though you aren’t directly aiming at them.
Yeah. I am constantly dying behind corners. If someone shoots you first it is not worth running or shooting back.
I know there's been issues with all servers on CoD for a while now, but it's so noticeable on this release!!! It also feels like the input lag is significantly noticeable too. In my first few games, it also felt like I had aim assist on keyboard and mouse! I was making shots I really felt I was not moving the mouse correctly for. It only took a few games for that to correct itself.
Thank you for this. I am in the uk too and have been experiencing the same issues, plays nothing like the beta. Seems to get two shorted by any gun or been killed before I was on the screen etc.
Thank GOD someone else is addressing this and I am not crazy how off these servers are.
Thanks brother for all the work you put in i thought i was going crazy it was driving me nuts! You are right i had a good experience in beta and this is a mess
It is a well known fact they use 20 tick rate servers instead of 60 tick or better servers.
If they upgrade the servers and pay for some elasticity so peak player counts would not overload the servers this would not be an issue.
BF4 has 60hz servers since 2013.. They're great!! Battlebit also has incredibly smooth and flawless servers (made by 3 devs) 😅
Well done, I loved this video!! Everything you talk about here is happening in bo6. This crap is driving me crazy and oissing me off. Now I know we’ve had some of this in the past, but b06 for me is terrible, unfortunately. Damn I hope they fix this game.
If 85 latency/ping is bad, mine is atrocious, i get a minimun of 150, after the season 1 update, befor i got around 60ms
I definitely noticed a big difference since season 1 update
All I do is spawn, packet burst, shoot, packet burst, die, packet burst, packet burst, repeat. I’m sticking to zombies until this gets fixed
Zombies is always online too.. 💀 "Modern gaming"