The Ocarina of Time Iceberg: explained

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024

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  • @MishKoz
    @MishKoz  4 года назад +427

    *DETAILED TIMESTAMPS*
    1:38 Timeline Split
    2:10 Blue Cucco
    2:25 Song of Storms Paradox
    2:46 Dead Dampé
    3:03 Composer Brothers
    3:31 Mario Portraits in Zelda's Room
    3:50 Poe Collector - Guard from Child timeline
    4:19 Shark breaking the bars in the diving pool
    4:49 Faces in the flowers in Zelda's room
    5:02 Beating the Running Man
    5:24 "L is Real" in Dodongo's Cavern
    5:57 Finding the Triforce
    6:36 Talking Skeleton in the Well
    6:54 Islamic Censorship
    8:20 Bloody St. Andrew's Cross
    8:40 Fetuses in Lakeside Lab
    9:06 Missing Castle Town folk
    9:28 Bowser Necklaces
    9:40 Upside-down Triforce in Temple of Time
    9:53 Triforce transition
    10:02 Manual Jump
    10:32 Disk Icon
    10:54 Ura is Master Quest
    11:21 All Darknuts are Gerudos
    11:40 Malon is an Alcoholic
    12:12 Forbidden Heart Container in Gerudo Fortress
    12:50 Aria uses Mario 64 model format
    14:02 Hallway of Time
    14:30 Talking Door
    14:41 Red Object in early Tower area
    14:56 Ganon's Castle hub world
    15:50 Early Dodongo's Cavern head
    16:05 Early Zelda 64 music wiped from existence
    16:15 Navi's early functionality
    16:42 Religion Wars
    17:22 Early Sky Tower is Adult Link's Purgatory
    17:37 Unicorn Fountain's true use
    17:57 Hidden Wind Temple
    18:11 Triforce item use
    18:21 Leftover Ura functionality
    19:02 Reed item
    19:15 Mirinda item in Kakariko Village
    19:34 N-coins
    19:54 Missing Townsfolk in early Castle Town
    20:32 Early low-poly NPCs
    20:49 Running Man in Mario Sunshine
    21:15 The Aria Apparition
    25:39 Zelda 64 on N64DD
    26:22 N64DD was cancelled to keep Zelda 64 from the public
    26:40 N64DD personalizes Disk Games
    27:35 Duel Wielding Bronze Hammer Upgrade
    27:57 Ganon only truly dies in V1.0

    • @crabohato4954
      @crabohato4954 4 года назад +4

      Yankee with no iceberg

    • @brig.badger2896
      @brig.badger2896 4 года назад

      why'd you change your name/pfp?

    • @kikimoraharpie
      @kikimoraharpie 4 года назад

      Hey Mish, you missed Deep Water there

    • @tommytomthms5
      @tommytomthms5 3 года назад

      Hey please please PLEASE stop saying "track 76 is islamic" that is FALSE, NOT TRUE. It is chanting but for some other religion, it has NOTHING to do with islam at all!!!

    • @MishKoz
      @MishKoz  3 года назад +14

      @@tommytomthms5 if you can explain why they are saying "Bismillah" and "Allah" throughout the sample, I will believe you. ruclips.net/video/WDxdnY22Uig/видео.html

  • @datman6882
    @datman6882 4 года назад +729

    Smh I can’t believe the iceberg creator forgot to add that Dampé haunts you in real life after you get the hookshot

    • @thereaIjesuschrist
      @thereaIjesuschrist 4 года назад +93

      He sleeps with me sometimes

    • @ScrawnyTreeDemon
      @ScrawnyTreeDemon 4 года назад +68

      @@thereaIjesuschrist Damn dude, that's pretty gay

    • @bananabuns1369
      @bananabuns1369 4 года назад +35

      i have to keep paying him to dig back up my stuff, i wanted to make soup, and he fucking put all my copper layered pots in my backyard! i had to pay him around fifty dollars to finally get all the pots back, and then he put all of my goddamn spoons into the ground!

    • @CrayolaSniffer8008135
      @CrayolaSniffer8008135 4 года назад +26

      That's way better than "durr aria is a creepypasta woman that lives in your cartridge"

    • @ProfessorWhooves11
      @ProfessorWhooves11 4 года назад +12

      He keeps dressing as himself for Halloween and floats around trying to dig up graves that are just decorations around the houses.

  • @deathrod123
    @deathrod123 4 года назад +887

    At the bottom of the iceberg lies Pokemon Crystal No Damage Challenge Part 4

    • @ax8914
      @ax8914 4 года назад +6

      🤫

    • @marvelousball
      @marvelousball 3 года назад +7

      What did ever happen to that?

    • @MishKoz
      @MishKoz  3 года назад +65

      @@marvelousball
      College classes and stuff started back up, and I devoted a bunch of time into making this video. One day, when I finally have time, I'll stream again lol

    • @TheSektor47
      @TheSektor47 3 года назад

      Great. I hate this comment. Thanks.

    • @CoolGamer-qz5zp
      @CoolGamer-qz5zp 3 года назад +1

      It happened!

  • @rchqrd3900
    @rchqrd3900 4 года назад +787

    You know Mish got bored while reading the Aria apparittion when in the background he added mario rapping

    • @gmirkoi5067
      @gmirkoi5067 3 года назад +42

      21

    • @Sockren
      @Sockren 3 года назад +7

      @@gmirkoi5067 whats nine plus ten

    • @gmirkoi5067
      @gmirkoi5067 3 года назад +6

      @@Sockren you know the answer

    • @crisismoon880
      @crisismoon880 3 года назад +20

      I was doing online classes and in the corner of my eye I saw Mario rapping and it made me laugh

    • @TofuSG98
      @TofuSG98 3 года назад +4

      TwennyWun

  • @aeroburger
    @aeroburger 4 года назад +427

    This iceberg was missing some key things, the "I love you" debug text, the arwing used to test z-targeting, and some things I'm blanking on rn

    • @aeroburger
      @aeroburger 4 года назад +121

      also that Aria creepypasta was interesting until the dead nintendo employee bit. what a way to ruin that

    • @aeroburger
      @aeroburger 4 года назад +63

      I'm surprised the gold cart wasn't mentioned at all either

    • @tuskoub
      @tuskoub 4 года назад +57

      Also the very early Zelda 64 builds where Link fights a Metal Link ig

    • @aeroburger
      @aeroburger 4 года назад +27

      @@tuskoub Oh yeah, pretty sure that was the same metal texture as in Mario 64 as well

    • @MishKoz
      @MishKoz  4 года назад +114

      @@tuskoub
      That image is literally on the right side of the iceberg image but it's not in there in text form. Weird. I was also surprised that the Arwing wasn't there.

  • @BlackIris95
    @BlackIris95 4 года назад +447

    The Aria creepypasta feels like it was written in the early 2010s. I was able to suspend my disbelief until the whole heart attack thing.

    • @26dollar
      @26dollar 4 года назад +76

      THEY PUT HIS SOUL IN THE GAME

    • @churupinha3510
      @churupinha3510 3 года назад +69

      HE POSSESS THE CARTIDGE
      ITS EVIL NOW

    • @amazemeplz
      @amazemeplz 3 года назад +69

      HYPER-REALISTIC BLOOD AND WHEN I WOKE UP I FOUND TWO METALLIC TRIANGLES COVERED IN BLOOD. THE CURSED TRIFORCE!!!
      Should have never bought that copy of OoT from that garage sale...

    • @churupinha3510
      @churupinha3510 3 года назад +34

      @@amazemeplz Why didn't I obey the "DO NOT PLAY" message written in blood on the cartridge's label?

    • @ricardobarsch4117
      @ricardobarsch4117 3 года назад +17

      @@churupinha3510 if I bought the fucking game I'm going to play it ffs

  • @DampWetstew
    @DampWetstew 4 года назад +606

    The Malon is an alcoholic one makes no sense. Even with the correct attribution. Unless there are bottles in her room or something.
    Cremia wanted to get Romani drunk to make sure she sleeps through the impending apocalypse. Like if the world ends it was an act of mercy, if not Romani got to have her first drink and would be happy to be treated as an adult and an equal to Romani. (Especially since she did save the farm after all with Link)

    • @LonelySpaceDetective
      @LonelySpaceDetective 4 года назад +62

      I kinda wonder if the iceberg author was operating on the assumption that the Termina counterparts suggested hidden aspects of the original Hyruleans. Even then though, it's a big leap to go from "caring sister gives her little sis a drink as an act of mercy" to "Malon is an alcoholic", which makes me wonder if the author misinterpreted the scene like you said.

    • @lightbrand_
      @lightbrand_ 3 года назад +7

      @Ah vamo nessa - yeah but I don’t think you understood, the author mixed up the two games, it’s not bringing attention to it, it’s just a mistake

    • @sirquixano5985
      @sirquixano5985 3 года назад +16

      I thought Talon was the one who people thought was alcoholic. Strange.

    • @genesisdenesis
      @genesisdenesis 3 года назад +4

      @@sirquixano5985 me too that's why i'm confused

    • @papersonic9941
      @papersonic9941 3 года назад +5

      What's silly though is that Chateu Romani has a completely different effect on Link than Lon Lon Milk does. So even if we agreed thay Chateu Romani=Alcohol, it's unlikely Lon Lon Milk also does.

  • @Fomortiis100
    @Fomortiis100 4 года назад +409

    >Wario Apparition
    SOUL
    >Aria Apparition
    SOULLESS

    • @falendemo546
      @falendemo546 3 года назад +20

      Tony Jabroni --- More like:
      >Wario Apparition
      FAKE BUT CAN EXIST (due to lack of satanic shit like "tHe deV sI DeeDD!!1!!" or "M A S S C H I L D R E N G E N O C I D E")
      >Aria Apparition
      LAVENDER TOWN SYNDROME ALL OVER AGAIN

    • @kirbyofthestarsfan
      @kirbyofthestarsfan Год назад

      Flirting vs Harassment

  • @SendixBunny
    @SendixBunny 4 года назад +142

    Some stuff here...
    Ocarina of time was originally planned to be solely an N64DD game. The URA Zelda cart was a last ditch effort to get the N64DD functionality into the game, and then it just devolved into a level pack. The N64DD actually was planned to personalize every copy. No joke. Miyamoto said "the initial goal for this game was to make full use of the 64DD, utilizing its hardware to create a persistent world with lasting effects such as trees remaining cut once the player had chopped them down, or Link leaving permanent footprints behind him wherever he walked." The magnetic disks enabled saving and rewriting capabilities that could "personalize" each play through of the game. The game ended up having to be completely redone from scratch then they fully gave up on the N64DD ever coming out in America.
    Islamic symbols don't mean "the enemy", they represent the Gerudo. The missing Castle Towns folk refers to the people who are in Castle Town when Link is a child, but aren't in Kakariko Village when Link is an adult. Rauru's Temple wouldn't have been the Wind Temple, it would have been the Light Temple. Three temples were cut, Light, Wind, and Ice. Most of the cut wind temple assets are used in the Forest room of Ganon's castle.
    Also Yuriofwind doesn't have Zelda 64. Everyone knows it's locked away deep in Nintendo's vault, somewhere in Miyamoto's closet, next to an Italian plumber who thinks he's Mario. :)

    • @kaancanszoglu6367
      @kaancanszoglu6367 3 года назад +6

      Underrated comment

    • @45Camster
      @45Camster 3 года назад +4

      There’s a mini ice temple.

    • @SendixBunny
      @SendixBunny 3 года назад +6

      @@45Camster The Ice Cave is the remnants of the original Ice Temple, yes.

    • @jareddembrun783
      @jareddembrun783 Год назад +1

      The wind temple comes back in Wind Waker.

  • @curiositykilledthecat5118
    @curiositykilledthecat5118 4 года назад +843

    so is every iceberg going to have a lame ass apparition pasta attached to it going forward?

    • @MegaDeathRay10
      @MegaDeathRay10 4 года назад +96

      Yes :(

    • @pokiyapa
      @pokiyapa 4 года назад +88

      and also personalized copies

    • @northropi2027
      @northropi2027 4 года назад +46

      Bad Rats Apparition when

    • @rolandverde8771
      @rolandverde8771 4 года назад +24

      Every copy of zelda is personalized

    • @oofadoofa313
      @oofadoofa313 4 года назад +64

      It's almost as if all of these low effort iceberg images are created by roleplaying wannabe creepypasta authors...

  • @andrezits9723
    @andrezits9723 4 года назад +437

    This iceberg is trying so hard to be like the Mario 64 one and is failing so badly. The creators made a whole new creepypasta just to make it more interesting and so many things are in the wrong level (the fetuses in the lab should've been lower and the running man in Mario Sunshine should've been way higher, for example). It honestly feels like the guys who made this iceberg just scrolled through the OoT page on the Cutting Room Floor and put everything they found interesting in it, without even researching what the info was referring to and how popular these mysteries were.

    • @imhaddanitattaxx4172
      @imhaddanitattaxx4172 4 года назад +40

      Yeah, I wish stuff wasn't made up for this one, although I can totally buy into personalization, not the disk version though. I remember as a kid just seeing things that I went out of my way to find again when I was older, and I found nothing. There is some weird juju surrounding this game sometimes

    • @IsabelleChiming
      @IsabelleChiming 4 года назад +46

      Yeah, the fact that this mainly uses tcrf content and has to make up a rumor for creepy factor is disappointing. Especially considering ocarina of time has that same mystery factor mario 64 does, imo. I think the image could have been a lot better

    • @lemmingscanfly5
      @lemmingscanfly5 4 года назад +28

      @@IsabelleChiming It's hardly possible to make gold on purpose.
      I remember seeing iceberg images like that back on 4chan a couple years ago, and the Mario 64 one just gained traction for them this year, mainly just due to good timing with 90s 2000s internet kids having nostalgia for schoolyard rumors and creepypastas, which are basically impossible in the same form these days unless mad obscure, that being combined with semi-convincing imagery.
      But it's all the same subject, it'll get boring fast.

    • @IsabelleChiming
      @IsabelleChiming 4 года назад +3

      @@lemmingscanfly5 I agree, although I didn't know the icebergs originated on 4chan years ago (it doesnt surprise me tho)

    • @thekrakenexperiment280
      @thekrakenexperiment280 4 года назад +11

      I agree about the wrong levels. I knew about the running man in Mario Sunshine and I never even played OoT before.

  • @maskofthedragon
    @maskofthedragon 4 года назад +184

    Should have used a heart for the meter this episode

    • @MishKoz
      @MishKoz  4 года назад +82

      I honestly kind of wanted to, but I was eager to use the updated health wheel from the 3D All Stars port.

  • @KingKalashnikov
    @KingKalashnikov 4 года назад +52

    morshu keeps a shotgun under the counter

  • @theguywhoasked770
    @theguywhoasked770 4 года назад +73

    "the child shown in this footage would later be permanently admitted to a psychiatric ward, after prolonged distress due to not getting that gosh dang soda"

  • @sonnyzoinks
    @sonnyzoinks 4 года назад +221

    Dudes on game forums: what if Nintendo game had a super spooky secret ghost
    Twelve year olds on a amazon fire tablet: *THIS IS FACT.*

    • @roundabout468
      @roundabout468 3 года назад +7

      I don't think putting something on an iceberg necessarily means you believe it, it's just a "did you know some people think this?".

  • @ajr01-x6e
    @ajr01-x6e 3 года назад +30

    By gathering all four N Coins, Link obtains the N Pass. The N Pass is the only way Link can say a special spell that would permanently seal Ganon outside of time. The only drawback being the sheer power of that spell could also banish Link as well. This means time would lose its greatest villain, but also its greatest hero...

  • @FennecWitch
    @FennecWitch 4 года назад +82

    Something that I feel like would work on this iceberg would be the "Overture of Sages". This was possibly the biggest ever hoax in the Zelda community, wherein February 1999, someone calling themselves "Ariana Almandoz" claimed to have discovered how to obtain the Triforce in Ocarina of Time. While there were a lot of people who claimed to have found the Triforce, especially at this time, Ariana was the first to provide screenshots, showing fake screenshots of not only the Triforce, but Link learning a song called the "Overture of Sages" from Kaepora Gaebora and Link entering the "Light Temple". These images were largely believed to be true at the time but were revealed to be a hoax in March 1999, since there were some inconsistencies in the pictures. Still, I feel like it is something that deserved to be on the iceberg due to at least being a big part of the community's history, even if it's been mostly forgotten about.

  • @Owlero
    @Owlero 4 года назад +692

    The co-host sounds like a 14 year old who didn't prepare for his history presentation.

    • @_sto2972
      @_sto2972 3 года назад +8

      True

    • @aqualitymagentachickenmask3298
      @aqualitymagentachickenmask3298 3 года назад +35

      It sounds like he’s projecting his words from his soft palate or something. Very congested.

    • @Jamesharveycomics
      @Jamesharveycomics 3 года назад +20

      Came here to make this exact comment. 9:46 contains his most trenchant insight of the video

    • @kevindube7096
      @kevindube7096 3 года назад +21

      Could be an anxious guy, with little to no public speaking experience, looking at the possibility of speaking on a video that would be seen by hundreds of thousands of people? 🤷🏽‍♂️ I’m gonna assume that before trying to be funny insulting him, but if it’s not the case then..... fuuuuucccckkkk that guy!!!!!!!!!!

    • @skypiea115
      @skypiea115 3 года назад +5

      Yeah, kind of took me out of the feel of the video. Public speaking my friend!

  • @Neptunequeen42
    @Neptunequeen42 4 года назад +886

    I can tell you’re trying a little harder to sound “professional”, but I actually preferred the conversational tone of the mario iceberg video a lot more. A drier, more scripted type of video isn’t really what most people like your channel for. Not to sound too nitpicky, I’d just hate for you to feel like you have to change your tone because of all the new attention you’ve gotten lately.
    Edit: and as a matter of fact, you don’t even really go into the details of what each item is referring to and what it really means, just sort of a vague summary of what people are referencing. seriously, give yourself more time to just talk about what you personally think about the topic.

    • @kronosdorma
      @kronosdorma 4 года назад +53

      I agree

    • @aBlackMage
      @aBlackMage 4 года назад +78

      Big agree, the casual tone was a big part of what made me like the previous one so much.

    • @soociesoocie
      @soociesoocie 4 года назад +17

      i also agree because everybody else said they agreed

    • @trappedintime
      @trappedintime 4 года назад +7

      I think he makes it work either way Honestly.

    • @MishKoz
      @MishKoz  4 года назад +388

      I can definitely see where you're coming from. I think it's a combination of wanting to seem more professional, and just not knowing nearly as much about Ocarina of Time compared to Mario 64. I will be the first to admit that this video isn't perfect. I am very much a "screw it, the video is _good enough_ " type of guy as opposed to being a perfectionist. Probably not something I should be openly admitting lol. I think a lot of the laziness and cut corners in it are just a result of me wanting to get it done more than anything. I am sorry if this vid was underwhelming, but thank you for the feedback.

  • @RandomPerson964
    @RandomPerson964 4 года назад +357

    I really hate how most icebergs are putting an "Apparition" or "Game is personalized" because it's on the Mario 64 Iceberg. Like you said, Ocarina of Time has enough mysteries to be interesting on its own, but if you want some funny or creepy joke entries, make up your own ideas, people.
    I agree with others that you sound too "professional". Like you're giving a speech for some stupid school project that no one wants to do. When you're recording, try acting like you're talking to a friend. Write like that, too. Read everything you write aloud, preferably to a person, so you can make sure your words sound natural. It didn't go anywhere, but I experimented with writing and recording, and I found these things to be helpful.

    • @nintendofan707
      @nintendofan707 4 года назад +7

      Yeah, its stupid creepypasta BS. Its lazy.

    • @richievedra1950
      @richievedra1950 4 года назад +1

      What does the every copy of m64 even mean

    • @NicoLetterio
      @NicoLetterio 4 года назад +7

      @@richievedra1950 that every copy of the game is different and adapts to the player or some shit like that.

    • @azrieldawson7377
      @azrieldawson7377 3 года назад +5

      There is hyper realistic blood in my personalized copy of a video game I got from an old man in a garage sale which is haunted by the soul of some kid who tragically died or something like that, also my friend told me that I like...shouldn’t play it? I dunno guys, sounds pretty legit. And no you can’t see proof because I destroyed my cartridge, my PC short circuited, you’ll be cursed too if you see proof, my house burned down, and I died. Sorry and thanks for understanding.

    • @Antonio-is2cn
      @Antonio-is2cn 3 года назад +2

      Dude just let people have fun with their icebergs

  • @54667991
    @54667991 4 года назад +71

    The Faces in the flowers is the most Not-a-thing thing I've seen today.

    • @aeroburger
      @aeroburger 4 года назад +17

      yeah mirrored textures always have the illusion of what looks like a face. I guess the writer of the iceberg didn't understand how textures worked

    • @myaltaccountthatiwillbarel2288
      @myaltaccountthatiwillbarel2288 3 года назад

      @@thisisfyne It' more the image. Go watch his first one as it's way better and has a better tone and style.

  • @marnea1
    @marnea1 4 года назад +19

    You got to love just how polarized the intro to this and the Mario 64 iceberg are.
    "Like I don't need to explain what an iceberg imagine is"
    "Like holy shit this went viral, and what I took as common knowledge is actually super niche and now I have literally millions of people asking me to explain what an iceberg image is."
    In any event, good stuff man. Been looking forward to this.

  • @kronosdorma
    @kronosdorma 4 года назад +87

    I’d rather only hear you, not whoever else talked. And we liked hearing you talk along with it!

    • @aidanb4477
      @aidanb4477 4 года назад +14

      I mean I didn't want to say it but

    • @sherkonia644
      @sherkonia644 4 года назад +11

      dude is speaking to fast/mumbling and fumbling as well.

    • @EraVulgaris-
      @EraVulgaris- 4 года назад +14

      There's no passion or urgency in his voice so to be completely honest he shouldn't have been part of the video. Hopefully he's okay and it's not due to depression or anxiety.

    • @qExAi5
      @qExAi5 4 года назад +7

      I love the effor that they put onto this, however... I must agree. I prefer the original guy. I didn't want to sound mean or unrespectful, however, it's how I feel it should be.

  • @cutehoneym2477
    @cutehoneym2477 3 года назад +32

    whoever the second person is talking, he takes away from the entire video. His voice is aggravating.

  • @jayr.9884
    @jayr.9884 3 года назад +9

    yeesh the delivery from the cohost is rough. he sounds like he's reading his lines at gunpoint

  • @esp371
    @esp371 4 года назад +77

    i'm sorry but this panic 64 dude just has the worst delivery ever
    it's so wooden and hardly makes the topic feel interesting
    i know i had a top comment on the mario 64 video that seemed pretty negative but it was a joke
    i like these videos and i think you can make the next one better by keeping the narration to yourself
    you're actually very good at it imo and keeping it to a single narrator i think would keep the viewer more invested throughout

    • @LionmaneElsie08
      @LionmaneElsie08 2 года назад +4

      He sounds like he doesn’t want to be here tbh 😅
      I also couldn’t understand him often as he didn’t speak clearly

  • @hupla2185
    @hupla2185 3 года назад +4

    I have something to confess, the dead soul inside Aria is actually the soul of my uncle who worked at Nintendo.

  • @RotroBreakteve
    @RotroBreakteve 4 года назад +6

    Love your vids!! Your deadpan reading of the Aria bullshit with Mario rapping in the background killed me lol. I hope you keep injecting your humour into future stuff.

  • @jerrytc2978
    @jerrytc2978 3 года назад +12

    gonna be honest at the start aria did make me KINDA interested in at least the oddity of it, swapping cartridges and what not
    then we got onto "its a dead game designers soul" and it just lost me

  • @Used__Napkin
    @Used__Napkin 4 года назад +244

    Not a big fan of this Iceberg, there were a lot of things that were either repetitive, based on nothing, or pretty obvious. It’s a shame because OoT has a lot of good material to work with. The whole Aria apparition is really dumb and is an obvious way to coattail on the mystery of the Mario 64 Iceberg. Overall it feel like it was made by someone with little knowledge on OoT who wanted to piggyback on the success of the Mario 64 iceberg.
    However, it makes me want to think up an iceberg for a game or franchise I’m passionate about like the Mother or Megaman series.

    • @kommissarjupiter7667
      @kommissarjupiter7667 3 года назад +8

      A mother/earthbound Iceberg could be really extensive

    • @valletas
      @valletas 3 года назад +3

      Honestely the only good one is the mario 64 one
      All of them fail to live up to it

    • @jazz8000
      @jazz8000 3 года назад +1

      @@valletas Goldeneye/Perfect Dark one is good

    • @byel2844
      @byel2844 3 года назад

      sunflowers zelda iceberg was pretty good

    • @valletas
      @valletas 3 года назад

      @@bN_isheeere yea now things got betted but stuff was pretty bad at the time
      There is also ths internet iceberg that became so popular 10 years ago that people still think the internet has layers

  • @GamingEelektross
    @GamingEelektross 3 года назад +7

    I'm honestly glad you mentioned the Aria thing being made up for an easy "bottom of the iceberg" thing. It really felt like an old cliche creepypasta that was rushed.

  • @hsuhru2051
    @hsuhru2051 4 года назад +39

    Yo I got a writer credit, nice! Anyways, I'm glad I was able to help you out with your research. Great video btw

  • @MigueUgartechea
    @MigueUgartechea 4 года назад +79

    The other dude really sounds like he is falling asleep

  • @TheOtherOTHERERER
    @TheOtherOTHERERER 4 года назад +31

    The upside down triforce is the iconography for lorule, meaning that there could be connection between oot and lttp/lbw. Could also mean that termina and lorule are also somehow connected, thats probably why the creator placed it on the iceberg.

    • @LonelySpaceDetective
      @LonelySpaceDetective 4 года назад +5

      Termina is debatable considering some of the theories surrounding it (though canon is clear on them having no relation), but I assumed the upside-down Triforce in OoT was a bit of early installment weirdness; lore wasn't exactly totally nailed down at this point (arguable to say that lore has *ever* been nailed down in this series, but you know what I mean), and unless I'm misremembering the video the upside-down Triforce didn't make it into final OoT.

    • @user-ov5nv1ff1b
      @user-ov5nv1ff1b 3 года назад +2

      definitely wasn’t intentional for the developers at the time given it was even put in the final game but it is fun looking back now and speculating about lorules connection to the hyrule we see in OoT

  • @melomacky4888
    @melomacky4888 4 года назад +18

    The atmosphere of the video is something that I've always loved about your iceberg videos. The music choice really helps in setting an eerier tone for the lower layers, but in a way that doesn't seem forced or in your face about it.

  • @MotobugGaming
    @MotobugGaming 4 года назад +30

    Mario 64: The Wario Apparition
    Ocarina of Time: The Aria Apparition
    Mario Kart 64: The Marty Apparition

  • @i.l.l.l.l.
    @i.l.l.l.l. 4 года назад +28

    The original Fire Temple music with the chanting is incredibly creepy to me, creepier than the second version by far. Cultural sensitivity aside, I'm kinda glad they swapped it out lol
    Also, great video!

    • @LonelySpaceDetective
      @LonelySpaceDetective 4 года назад +4

      I kinda feel like the revised music fits the vibe of the dungeon better, too.

    • @ahmedar1217
      @ahmedar1217 3 года назад +1

      @@LonelySpaceDetective no

  • @IsabelleChiming
    @IsabelleChiming 4 года назад +49

    This slapped. I kinda felt like there was less mystery and creepiness to this one but maybe that has more to do with the iceberg than with this video

  • @seavord
    @seavord 4 года назад +196

    Whoever is talking with you needs to speak clearly, sounded like he didn't wanna read and was just saying it as fast as he could sounded slurred

    • @suedonnym
      @suedonnym 3 года назад +5

      honestly I have no clue how people can make their lines sound that bad

    • @lemmingtonofficial
      @lemmingtonofficial 3 года назад

      Where is your pfp from? It looks awesome!

    • @Ryan-Petre
      @Ryan-Petre 3 года назад +2

      The funny thing is I looked at his earlier vids, his performance here was actually a big improvement lmao.

    • @crisismoon880
      @crisismoon880 3 года назад

      He’s gonna need to improve more

  • @crenando288
    @crenando288 4 года назад +41

    I'm kind of disappointed you didn't mention the yuriofwind reference, that would have been hilarious

    • @Symphony_Gex
      @Symphony_Gex 3 года назад +2

      What is that referring to anyway

    • @beastmonsterthing3
      @beastmonsterthing3 3 года назад +2

      @@Symphony_Gex that's a youtuber, yuriofwind. he did some of the first videos on ura zelda / oot 2 cancelled stuff years ago

  • @thekrakenexperiment280
    @thekrakenexperiment280 4 года назад +46

    I enjoyed the "personalized Mario 64" and "Wario Apparition" stuff in the Mario 64 iceberg, but I don't want other icebergs to do it just because the Mario 64 one was popular. If you're going to make up theories, I hope they will be more creative. I mean, "a designer died while making this" is like the most common creepypasta trope. I still really enjoyed the video though.

    • @doodledungit
      @doodledungit 3 года назад +3

      He didn’t even create this iceberg

    • @thekrakenexperiment280
      @thekrakenexperiment280 3 года назад +2

      @@doodledungit I know. I was just saying this in terms of icebergs in general.

  • @LucidMakesVideos
    @LucidMakesVideos 4 года назад +24

    This is what I thought you'd do next, i love seeing your takes on these theories

  • @butwhy7953
    @butwhy7953 3 года назад +4

    The Aria creepy pasta stared off good but then it went “random bullshit go”

  • @mattemactics1280
    @mattemactics1280 3 года назад +6

    "Put the soul of a person in an AI" I written a few AIs. I have yet to make a fucking blood sacrafise for one

  • @patriciolemus9271
    @patriciolemus9271 3 года назад +5

    Nintendo: Ah, this model looks kinda bad let’s just leave her on the code
    Conspiracy theorists: 21:20

  • @lydia8226
    @lydia8226 3 года назад +4

    That guy who made the Aria apparition sure loves using the word convoluted wrong

  • @Abaddon_Narukami
    @Abaddon_Narukami 4 года назад +13

    When the world need him the most he came back.

  • @IamCanadian3333
    @IamCanadian3333 2 года назад +3

    With regards to the Poe Collector = Jar House Guard, further evidence: During the day, he complains how boring the world is and wishes there were more disorder in the world, and in the future, the Poe Collectors praises the chaos in the world and hopes it gets even more chaotic.
    The biggest evidence that supports this theory though is that during the night, the guard says that studying ghosts is a hobby of his and says that one day it could come in handy, and of course, seven years later, the Poe Collector is a ghost expert that rewards you for giving him Poe Souls (in the form of rupees and one of the 4 obtainable bottles after you give him 10 Big Poe Souls).

  • @elfiebranford9330
    @elfiebranford9330 4 года назад +52

    Here we go again.
    For real though, any iceberg theory that followed the Super Mario 64 one feels too forced and like its trying to hard. Regardless, so far the video is explaining wacky stuff so I can't complain. Although I think you should've replaced the Mario health with something like heart pieces.

  • @Icemaire
    @Icemaire 4 года назад +79

    Happy you kinda skipped the made up one just for the iceberg. The other ones draw their strength partially from being old/well known. Then again, new theories are always welcome and should be encouraged, but the Aria apparition just seems too forced. Good video, love to see more!

    • @ScrawnyTreeDemon
      @ScrawnyTreeDemon 4 года назад +14

      Yeah, agreed. I'm all for creepypastas, but forcing Mario 64 into it-- especially Wet-Dry World --made me lose any suspension of disbelief.

    • @thisisasupersayin376
      @thisisasupersayin376 4 года назад +5

      Honestly, Aria Apparition seemed like a good idea up until the Presence In The Forbidden Build part. That was when it really just turned into a ripoff of the Mario 64 iceberg.

    • @LeDingueDeJeuxVideos
      @LeDingueDeJeuxVideos 2 года назад +3

      @@ScrawnyTreeDemon I'm all for GOOD creepypasta, and I know that's mostly subjective, but does anyone really think this one has any value?

    • @ScrawnyTreeDemon
      @ScrawnyTreeDemon 2 года назад +1

      @@LeDingueDeJeuxVideos Which one? The SM64 one, or the Aria one? If we're going with the former, then it's because SM64 _does_ have an unnerving, dreamy quality about-- Especially Wet-Dry World, which just has this... empty, confused, almost beta-test feel to it. Acknowledging that resonates with alot of people, especially as it does have the reputation of being a childhood game for so many (myself included!). It's also a sort of homage to the creepypastas of old, combined with the recent surge of interest in beta content.
      That being said... there were honestly points where that shit got tired, too. Even worse, it ended up drowning out actual beta-content in favour of clickbaity horror shit, which is just... beyond frustrating.
      As for Aria? Lmao, who knows. But yeah, I feel you.

    • @LeDingueDeJeuxVideos
      @LeDingueDeJeuxVideos 2 года назад +1

      @@ScrawnyTreeDemon oh no I was referring to aria lol, sorry I wasn't clear

  • @tacothursdays6546
    @tacothursdays6546 4 года назад +14

    I think it'd be hilarious to have a little more fun with the more memey/creepypasta fake entries towards the bottom of the iceberg.
    With all due respect I admire your thorough fact checking for every other entry but the final section of the iceberg is always the driest section.
    That being said great video as always you earned a sub :)

  • @aidendamep5118
    @aidendamep5118 4 года назад +17

    YYEEEEEEESSSSSSS
    I’ve been waiting for this, your SM64 iceberg was so good I loved it. Ocarina of Time is one of my favorite games that I you for making a video on it, also when you started playing the hirule field theme it was super loud and scared me lol

  • @Juiceplooce
    @Juiceplooce 3 года назад +34

    8:56
    FREEEEEMAAAAANNNNNNN

  • @snosibsnob3930
    @snosibsnob3930 4 года назад +9

    Mish you have birthed an entire sub genre of this type of video. Thank you.

  • @liliester4080
    @liliester4080 3 года назад +5

    It's so funny that people actually make "creepypastas" about AI's placed in a nintendo 64 cartridge, when humanity is around 600 years away from having actual AI's.

  • @tamed4171
    @tamed4171 3 года назад +2

    "The developers wanted to add a 'cute fairy girl'"
    Based af

  • @CH3R.N0BY1
    @CH3R.N0BY1 4 года назад +12

    i think the title screen purgatory refers to link and epona on the actual title screen. Link has a certain set inventory that doesn't change and he just keeps repeating the same movements with epona

    • @troloinkto
      @troloinkto 3 года назад

      isn't there a video of someone playing with that link?

  • @harleyokeefe5193
    @harleyokeefe5193 4 года назад +1

    Has anyone else randomly gotten hooked on these iceberg explained vids

  • @simodelfario4739
    @simodelfario4739 4 года назад +14

    This feels like a presentation with the smart kid and the cool kid. Love it

  • @iv624
    @iv624 4 года назад +7

    The king has returned back to his throne

  • @killer1gamer1
    @killer1gamer1 3 года назад +4

    how does one just die from a heart attack in work and the others say NOTHING about it and just casually put his soul in the game he was working on

  • @MugiwarasNakama
    @MugiwarasNakama 3 года назад +2

    about the poe collector. The dialogue from the gaurd hints at his eventual fate as the poe collector and there is also a Sheikah statue that says the gaurd has a strange infatuation with ghosts.

  • @TectonicImprov
    @TectonicImprov 4 года назад +31

    "The Aria Apprarition" section, intentional or not, reminded me of the Princess creepypasta. In fact earlier in the video when you were talking about Aria I was wondering if the Princess was gonna get a nod.

    • @mutantnut
      @mutantnut 4 года назад +2

      Holy shit, same.

    • @AlphaDog26
      @AlphaDog26 3 года назад

      What’s the princess creepypasta?

    • @CoolGamer-qz5zp
      @CoolGamer-qz5zp 3 года назад

      Yeah what's the Princess creepypasta?

  • @pantalonesdemuerto7960
    @pantalonesdemuerto7960 3 года назад +1

    One thing that I think was off the mark just a little: I don't think the "Hidden wind temple" one is about the rumored mission Rauru temple, but rather that the Forest Temple replaced an earlier wind temple concept. The medallion for the forest temple looks a bit like a whirlwind, and the forest segment in Ganon's tower is largely a puzzle around letting fans blow you around in the right sequence.

  • @lamstof01
    @lamstof01 4 года назад +40

    The second narrator sounds dead inside

  • @gabrielryan-leon832
    @gabrielryan-leon832 4 года назад +8

    The CEO of iceberg theories is back!

  • @dill8022
    @dill8022 4 года назад +9

    This is great! You seriously deserve way more attention for your videos like these.

  • @Apollo9898LP
    @Apollo9898LP 3 года назад +7

    Ok so the hidden wind temple item bugs me, because you way oversimplified that part. Not that it matters or anyone cares, but I just wanna elaborate on it.
    1) Yes, the presence of the Light Medallion has made people think that there is an extra temple, a light temple, that was cut. This is also supported by the fact there are a lot of light-based puzzles in the Spirit Temple, and so some people think these were originally developed for the Light Temple and were repurposed when the Light Temple was cut. However,
    2) The WIND Temple is a theory that originally the Forest and Water temples were different. This comes from the fact that, in Ganon's Tower, the room corresponding to the Forest Temple utilizes wind-based puzzles, and the room corresponding to the Water Temple utilizes ice-based puzzles. This, coupled with the fact that Ganon Tower was developed fairly early in the game's development, has led some fans to believe that originally those two temples were the Wind Temple and the Ice Temple, and that the Ice Temple's assets were repurposed into the Ice Cavern, and the Wind Temple was entirely cut except for the Ganon's Tower section. This is also supported by the fact that the Forest Medallion seems to have a symbol like a fan on it, and the Water Medallion has a symbol like a snowflake on it.

  • @michaelgaber3600
    @michaelgaber3600 4 года назад +17

    I think the Aria AI thing is complete creepypasta. That's the first time I've heard about the Ganon only truly dying in V1.0 due to blood color, and though I understand the theory I think it's complete garbage. Lastly, Panic64 (imo) needs to work on his speaking. He sounded like a highschool student giving a speech. Very monotone, did not stop and pause when needed, and did not articulate words well

  • @bodoms_demon4159
    @bodoms_demon4159 3 года назад +7

    Some of y'all need to work on annunciating words. I can't get through the rest of this.

    • @omgnoi
      @omgnoi 3 года назад

      Yeah it’s pretty unwatchable for me

  • @lennoxschmidt4020
    @lennoxschmidt4020 4 года назад +3

    I think your mario 64 iceberg is the best on RUclips, so I'm glad you're diving into other game's icebergs! Can't wait to see this!

  • @bloodrunsclear
    @bloodrunsclear 3 года назад +5

    It’s weird that some of these icebergs feel creepy, but this one felt very upbeat

  • @Art42209
    @Art42209 3 года назад +3

    I think that Aria is the mother of Oot Link, because of the cinematic after the deku tree sprout, where she will give baby Link to the forest.
    However, this cutscene was never made or changed to the only fire one, to give more dramatic weight to the fact they were in war times.
    i don't know if is good or not, because it only holds for the fact that Aria's model wear green clothes, but hey, better than Aria's apparition.

  • @gregzotter6189
    @gregzotter6189 4 года назад +2

    ...Aria's Apparition is clearly a creepypasta. It sounds too much like one for my comfort.

  • @auxilirious
    @auxilirious 4 года назад +4

    Dude epic! Glad I could help! Also great video :)

  • @babysinclairfan
    @babysinclairfan 2 года назад +2

    9:23 Nintendo actually addressed this rumor! In super smash bros melee, the redead trophy states that Link initially thought the redeads were the inhabitants of castle town, but later learned that they had all escaped and survived. Obviously this was written sometime after the game, so who knows what the original intent was?

  • @KorytheMaril
    @KorytheMaril 3 года назад +3

    The Aria apparition disappoints me. I like the idea of this scrapped NPC being a spooky occurrence, but the second the words, "Dead Nintendo employee" came up, my interest immediately died.
    It'd be nice to see the idea of a ghost woman used for a creepy new side quest, though, perhaps hidden in the future Hyrule Castle town.

  • @CeticWales
    @CeticWales 2 года назад +2

    That "creepypasta" was painful, convoluted is definateky the right word

    • @RoachCatJr
      @RoachCatJr Год назад +1

      & definateky is definitely not the right word

    • @CeticWales
      @CeticWales Год назад

      @@RoachCatJr The biggest worry is that I write for a living. 😳

  • @brig.badger2896
    @brig.badger2896 4 года назад +12

    9:39 nice Tails gets Trolled reference,
    could you do a Majora's mask iceberg?

  • @crabohato4954
    @crabohato4954 4 года назад +2

    9:40 The game LoZ: A Link Between Worlds has 2 worlds where you travel to, Hyrule and Lorule. They are both counterparts to each other. The Trifirce that belongs to Lorule is upside down.

  • @komi___
    @komi___ 4 года назад +7

    If you do the pokémon iceberg, use this version: i.imgur.com/LCqb4TF.png
    It's the most updated version.

  • @imaginaryboy2000
    @imaginaryboy2000 3 года назад +1

    It makes me happy to no end that you put in a clip of trying and failing to go down a hole in the intro.

    • @MishKoz
      @MishKoz  3 года назад +1

      When putting it in, I was like "dang I want to do a fade to black transition after I'm done talking about some sort of secret" but I didn't have a lot of footage recorded, so that was the best option lol

  • @itsshelby
    @itsshelby 4 года назад +6

    Jesus Christ this video’s master channel needs a compressor

  • @elderjose9662
    @elderjose9662 2 года назад +2

    the part about Marlon being an alcoholic I think I understand, as all the manora's mask characters are mirrored versions of another dimension of their counterparts in hyrule, Cremia and Romani having this involvement with alcoholic beverages, may mirror that their version in hyrule Malon, there are also these involvement with alcohol manifested by Romani's desire for alcoholic beverages. (anyway I doubt anyone read this a year after the video was released lol!)

  • @the_bane_of_all_anti_furry
    @the_bane_of_all_anti_furry 3 года назад +3

    geezes the part of aria lore sended shive to my whole skeleton

  • @19inzanetoney
    @19inzanetoney 3 года назад +2

    "So, they were most likely used as some form of currency" Bruh

  • @JingIeFett
    @JingIeFett 3 года назад +3

    Give me a break, the fetuses are obviously small squids. You can even see the low res suction cups on the tentacles...

  • @DerpySnake
    @DerpySnake 3 года назад +1

    Loved it when Mario rapping appeared during the aria apparition section. Huge tonal whiplash, but I'll be fine.

  • @WilfredCthulu
    @WilfredCthulu 3 года назад +3

    So happy to finally see this. I actually fully completed this game again a few weeks ago, and I feel you do these icebergs in some of the best ways.
    Btw upsidedown triforce = Lorule
    I also agree with the change in tone but I'd really like to see you retry this with a better pace and iceberg chart. Ocarina of Time has amazing potentional.

  • @kingofbel6499
    @kingofbel6499 3 года назад +1

    That fucking shark scared the soul outta me when I first played OoT as a 7yo kid.
    With all the fantasy creatures in Zelda, I never expected to see a real looking shark hidden in that lab.
    But I admit that all the creepy shit in Zelda games is one of the main things I love about them.

  • @thatguyknownaswill8180
    @thatguyknownaswill8180 4 года назад +7

    Hey panic coek 64 you know you can’t have 1/2 an “A” press right?

  • @Josh---
    @Josh--- 3 года назад +1

    The Aria Apparition reading fucking killed me holy shit

  • @Wyldboy
    @Wyldboy 4 года назад +7

    I'm still waiting for the iCarly Iceberg Video

    • @ChryI
      @ChryI 3 года назад +3

      One word: FOOT FETISH

    • @thedoublessymbol
      @thedoublessymbol 3 года назад +3

      @@ChryI that's two words

  • @penta_novae
    @penta_novae 4 года назад +1

    This is your bread and butter, man, you gotta keep up these iceberg explanations, they're great.

  • @elnicko4189
    @elnicko4189 4 года назад +7

    Hmm...
    A pretty good video, maybe a bit too professional along with the unfortunate circumstance of people throwing in an apparition or spooky stuff, but overall, very entertaining. Perhaps if you were to do another iceberg a sonic or donkey Kong one would be good. Great channel.

  • @bens5859
    @bens5859 3 года назад +2

    This is a great vid. But man, there are so many strange inferences in video game trivia videos! "The N tokens were the same color as rupees, so they were most likely intended to be an alternate form of currency." Like what???

  • @Kaofie
    @Kaofie 4 года назад +2

    i really like the creepypasta ish things actually!
    just good campfire stories if anything even though they're rarely or if ever true.

  • @holly1528
    @holly1528 3 года назад +3

    Wow that Aria apparition pasta was hard to listen to

  • @TheQuashingoftheTub
    @TheQuashingoftheTub 4 года назад +1

    I bought a copy of the original OoT Collector's Edition, and I was so confused when I saw the textures and heard the Fire Temple music XD

  • @allmight9840
    @allmight9840 4 года назад +2

    Ah the iceberg master returns