ikr, say what you want about Russia but they come across as pretty alpha here lol. America's all like "ohh no please mr. terrorists, you guys are just misunderstood, here, take all our military equipment. Btw don't worry, we won't attack, we're too busy making our military gender pronoun friendly." meanwhile Russia's just like "Here's 50. cal bullpup comrade, it kills terrorists even harder, it's so brutal, it'll even make them explode through walls! Also here's an attractive host to advertise it. We know what our operators want."
I laughed a little when a Russian lady told me that was it was the best rifle when "The safety of innocent people is top priority" Next we are going to have a video where a Chinese official comes out and says the same thing. lolol
@@liberatorkramit Times change don't they... They designed a whole ass weapon and cartridge specifically for it... It'd be safe to assume it's because the priorities changed as well. Forever judging on the basis of past mistakes without ever adjusting the view is a bit dumb.
@@オールマイト-y1f Put a car muffler on it. Seriously, the suppressor probably lowers the sound signature considerably but I doubt it has a long service life. That would be alot of gas pressure to baffle. Probably helps manage recoil too, if the balance is good
@@j.chriswatson6847 am sure she said SPECIAL FORCES .....and specialty hostage situation .....suppressor dont need to work for next 3 day on est front :))
At first, the idea of a 12.7 mm assault rifle made me laugh. However, once the specialist nature of the weapon was explained, the large caliber became understandable. The assault rifle type is normally centered on high capacity magazines allowing for profligate ammunition use, but this weapon is intended for people that train to hit with every shot, so the reduced capacity of any magazine to hold 12.7 mm rounds is not a serious issue. Hopefully, this will not appear in a "Forgotten Weapons" video for a long time.
I hope Gun Jesus gets a chance to take a look at one of these on Forgotten Weapons. Not because it's forgotten, but sometimes he covers a thing or two just because it's super cool and someone has one. I'd do the same if I could.
"...not just hitting but smashing an enemy..." "...with the second round you destroy the enemy." Why i love Russia; straight to the point and clear, no BS, no PC, no wrapping it in.
@@bmbpdk It's .5 cal basically, but less powerful than say, the Barrett as it has a smaller cartridge. There's an American weapon called the Beowulf that is a similar concept.
- Тут какая-то странная девушка хочет продать нам штурмовое ружье. - Откуда она? - Не знаю. У нее тяжелый русский акцент. - Тяжесть - это хорошо. Тяжесть - это надежность.
Wonderful host. That is amazing , the variety of specialized munitions is like wow. Obviously your corporation can provide a customer with literally anything required for their police/military needs. Well done
Took the words right out of my post! Aliens' "pulse rifles" were dressed-up Tommy guns IRL, and despite the bullpup action, this new gun seems both inspired by, and intended to supersede, that venerable weapon. Wonder how many armor-piercing, exploding-tipped bullets would fit into a drum clip.
Very impressive. Im an American. And for the record, literally no one in my country wishes to see conflict across field from our Russian brothers. Because it just would be unecessary and wastefull because we have so many common enemies.
that and russia just seems cool as fuck. the people are strong minded and really have their people and country in their heart. america could use a little more of that i think instead of all the bitching and arguing.
As always, it is politicians and those that bribe them and profit from war that inspire the conflict. When you get to meet people from around the world, we're generally willing to relax, share a drink, and even discuss our ideals.
@@Get5ome Not if you look at the specs. A bolter round is 12ga diameter, and uses basically a metal shot shell (as they originally were all metal, not plastic) as a protective casing and booster charge for the GyroJet Style Rocket Projectile. We literally have all the technology of a Bolter right now, decades old, its just putting all the peices together would make the A T F throw an absolute fit. O.o Also perhaps you forgot that we have Shotguns with rifled barrels made specifically for firing Slugs. Just because its a "shotgun" does not mean it is SmoothBore or firing Shot Shells. Also several militaries have done testing with 2 Stage 12ga shells, mostly explosives and micro grenades. So pop a rocket motor on the back of a 12ga grenade you have a Bolter Round, and there have been fully automatic 12ga Machine Pistols for Decades already, so yeah... Bolters basically already exist they are just MASSIVELY Restricted by Governments. O.o
@@viliboy Well, after His carrier on British television was not to His liking, He went to Hollywood and became an internationally recognized movie star, and then went back to television, with greatly improved results. A strange plan, but it seems to be working.
It has a weapon-companion for the same ammo: RSh-12 (Sturm Revolver), in case if there are too many fliying elephants in the patrol zone. Same concept as FN P90 and FN Five-Seven.
@@juanordonezgalban2278 both the 5.7 and the P90 use the same ammo; So does this rifle and the revolver mentioned. This is for ease of use, both weapons firing the same cartridge means you can carry 1 ammo type instead of two.
Honestly I'd love to see a ballistic comparison with currently used clearing weapons, not just ballistic dummies but how they react with walls. I'm curious about the lack of fragmentation they mentioned along with potential over penetration. Definitely looks like a neat platform though!
Most interesting to see what can do anti-ricochet bullet with dummie. That bullet is very light, it has massive aluminium core and weights about 108 grain. But that thing is only for Russia - most of the russian buildings are made of concrete/bricks. In the building with drywall it most likely will go through several walls. And AP rounds should be over penetrating even against concrete. But there's no any information about muzzle velocity of supersonic bullets. Only for subsonic one - 950-1017 feet per second.
For close engagements it's fuckin sick tho. I've been waiting for something like this since 300 blackout got popular. One of the next steps in the heavy subsonic suppressed game imo
It looks nice, basically a bullpup .50 Beowulf/.458 SOCOM with a 12-14 inch or so barrel equipped with a QD mount for a muzzle brake or suppressor based on mission requirements. I did appreciate the warhead modifications, I am surprised you didn't go for a sabot for a longer ranged ammunition option, of course that would probably affect the point accuracy for the extra velocity and range. I assume the high velocity 100M range round is a lighter grain frangible warhead that destabilizes at long range, good for short range urban use. I am surprised that you are getting accuracy out to 300 meters with the AP round, you must be reducing the weight of the projectile quite alot to get that initial push of acceleration without using a sabot as this round doesn't look like it could take too high pressure of a powder load. What twist rate are you using to stabilize the rounds? The wide variety of projectile weights and velocities must make it difficult to manage. Around 1:20 or so seems right for the high accuracy rounds but 1:15 seems better for the heavy subsonic rounds, maybe split the difference?
Sabots don’t work without a barrel designed for them. You would need a faster twist rate to stabilize a sabot round which could possible over stress a normal bullet causing it to rip its jacket off, the only other way around this is to use monolithic copper ammo which is very expensive.
I know a discarding sabot isn't optimal outside of a smooth bore I was just wondering how they got the range they claimed with the AP round without adding too much pressure for the casing to handle. (The longer case length probably helps though.) They seem to be going for a dual role short and mid range weapon system, with a 300 blackout for example you would have different magazines with ammunition for short range (heavy grain) or medium range (lighter grain, higher powder load), if you go too light on the bullet though you can destabilize the round and lose accuracy which is why I was curious about the twist rate of the barrel. To get armor piercing against plate armor or vehicle armor at that range with such a large bullet you would need serious velocity even with a fairly long barrel and a steel core penetrator, a sabot would have been one of the ways to do it though obviously not optimally (unless you put a wee little heat warhead on it of course :P).
I was curious about how much it would affect an infantryman to carry this type of ammunition. 18.0 grams for 12.7x55mm per round (based on Wikipedia, people aren't sure what the average weight really is) 16.1 grams for 7.62x39mm per round 11.7 grams for 5.45x39mm per round 30 rounds x 7 magazines x 18.0g= 3780g -> 8.3 pounds 30 rounds x 7 magazines x 16.1g= 3423g -> 7.5 pounds 30 rounds x 7 magazines x 11.7g= 2457g -> 5.4 pounds
As far as I am aware this.. "Lead Dispenser" was requested by the FSB, or more like a gun with such specifications and so far they are the only "Institution" in russia that adopted the weapon. So it´s used in counter terrorism operations. I had a nice picture once of a guy in full gear and a ShaK-12 that was casually doing his job in a pair of swim shorts and flip flops.. if I find it again I will give you guys the link.
He has a video where he fired similar ammunition. Brandon's idea is to make an AK with 50 bmg. This is a completely different ammunition, despite the fact that the caliber is also 12.7.
Subsonic ammo, with muzzle speed lower than the speed of sound, combined with the suppressor/silencer is harder to hear than 7,62x39 suppressed. Measuring dB would be a proof.
you can get 7.62 x 39 subsonic rounds that are around 155 grains or so, though those rounds are not too common I i know good old cheap Tula makes some..
Well, subsonic means speeds lower than the sound barrier. And the the most telling part of a rifles report is the crack, so if it's suppressed and using subsonic rounds it will be harder to hear than basically any supersonic firearm. That is how that works, and was mostly covered in the video.
I wonder how the ballistics of the 12.7x55mm compares to similar rounds like .50 Beowulf and .458 SOCOM? Short range, low velocity, high mass ammunition - I wonder if we'll see a new class of weapons emerge in the near future?
Could fill the role of shotguns potentially. Interesting middle ground with how slow and heavy the rounds are. Good for suppressing too. Very interesting for close quarters engagements. The narrower cartridge makes it more viable than shotties to use stick mags for one thing. A lot of war is going to be fought underground in the future. Potential total ground coverage of autonomous drones guarantees that. China specifically has been prepping for fighting in tunnels for a while now.
@@chloedemeter5473 I’m guessing it really only need to keep its full kinetic potential up to around 100 meters. Anything beyond that is outside the scope of CQB.
This looks like a development of the idea started with the VKS. I don’t think ‘stopping power’ is such a good term to use here, I think kinetic energy is a more accurate description of what you mean when it comes to penetrating cover or armoured targets. Impressive firearm and very compact, I imagine the muzzle blast is killer!
How much energy does a grain of sand carry at the speed of light? Stopping power is a fine term. If I throw a bowling ball at you at 25 mph or shot you with a .45 acp I’d impart the same kinetic load into you provided the .45 stopped in your body. But only one would guarantee you being put on your ass. Size matters in real life. Regardless of what you’re girlfriend says.
@@TheTmshuman Speed is far more important if they're wearing armour. If they're not, as long as you can break skin and bone all that matters is where you hit them. For that reason, a bigger bullet doesn't really offer any advantage, whereas a faster one is more accurate which is an advantage. Of course, it's a balancing act as make the bullet too small and it won't matter how fast it is as it'll deform too much to hit anybody hiding behind anything. This is a problem a lot of 5.56 loads have, whereas the slower but larger 7.62x39 can penetrate such cover. However, if you hit someone with a 5.56, the bullet causes far more internal damage than the 7.62x39 which over-penetrates. So it is a balancing act between penetrating armour or cover and terminal ballistics.
@@djwoody1649 you really don’t understand why the US moved to 5.56 do you? Do you know why we are going to the 6.8 now? Bigger bullets offer higher cross sectional density, long range and better stability (lower CD to stay supersonic longer) and generally better terminal ballistics. The 45 acp is a very very old cartridge and was designed with a very low peak pressure of around 32k psi. There are however modern loadings that will work in most HK pistols and other high end 1911’s called 45 super, which has a thicker case and generates comparable pressures to other modern loadings such as 10mm. It is by far more devastating than 9mm. Without hydrostatic shock/permanent stretch cavity, bigger bullets make bigger holes and drop blood pressure faster and crush more bone and destroy more tissue and more consistently transfer their energy as compared to a smaller bullet with the same energy. A 16lbs bowling ball to your chest at 25mph is going to incapacitate you 10 out of 10 times. A 9mm to the chest will not. They both have roughly the same energy.
Seems similar to 450 Bushmaster in AR platform, often called a thumper. I do like the bullpup design because these large calibers require long barrels to get max effectiveness out of the round.
This has to be the shortest-travel short-stroke I've ever seen, I'd LOVE to see the internals of it. It's basically an assault rifle with the capability of a slug shotgun.
The main point is .338 Lapua case and 55mm full diameter length vs 40/42/43mm for predecessors .458 socom/.50 beowulf and the .450 bushmaster. This would be very popular in USA civilian market. Full auto was surprising, but then anti terror duty has a need. Bullpup good choice.
I always thought a pcc in 45 win mag would be the cats pyjamas. Big bullet, strait case, sub or supersonic. Wouldnt have the case capacity or energy development of a 12.7x55mm, thats kind of huge, but for CQB subs it wouldn't be that much of a difference.
@Timothy Mckee there is 45 super that runs at 28kpsi, higher than the 20kpsi of 45acp. I am just a huge fan of subsonic heavy big bullet stuff. 9x39 (0.362 i think) has 265gr bullets. There is jacketed bullets up to 350gr for .452 usually for 460sw. When you have to keep speed down you want to keep mass up. A sub gun that splats out 350gr bullets as fast as a 1911 spits out 200gr would be a pretty effective room cleaning tool. I dont think it matters what you do, the 45acp o.a.l. will stop you from getting a bullet that heavy to meaningful velocity.
I believe there was a company that did conversions for M1 Carbines in 45 Win. I think there may have been 10mm Mag conversions too. Either way, I always thought something like that would make a sweet PCC or woods gun.
When I first saw this I noticed this looks like an upscaled and auto-rimmed version of the 45-70. In a 12.7mm (approx. 50-51 caliber) the bullet weight could be 500+ grains. The supersonic ammo would be an even better bear stopper than 45-70. Against a human it would be brutal, with or without a vest. I could see this caliber gaining a following here in the US for hunting.
Nor is the rifle, so... (this intended for a professional and military contract scenario where they will purchase thousands of rounds per rifle as a package when they buy a set. Not really a retail item.)
This video really just makes me sad, cause I know I'll never get to own one. Basically my dream gun right here. And as many others have said, excellent host as well. Didn't mess around talking up the gun, just straight no BS overview. Awesome video, liked and subbed!
You'd think she or someone (or the specs listings) might have mentioned the assorted bullet weights/velocities achieved, so buyers could compare these to .458 SOCOM or .50 Beowulf, etc...
Not really. They aren't advertising for competitors. This is an advertisement for an arms company. Their customer base is basically only police and military, so they don't need to win over consumers. They will sell the proprietary ammo with the firearms in lots. Groups that must worry about logistics don't want variety, it just complicates things.
Yeah.. thats exactly the cartridge that came to my mind as well. Tbh. I cannot see the purpose of this weapon. Stopping power? You dont need this if you are killing humans..
@@moparman1692 it was mentioned in the video; drugged up terrorists who basically didn't react to being shot, so they made a round that's impossible to ignore.
@@n_tas you dont have to reinvent the wheel. There are plenty of rounds out there that will create that effect. Almost any high caliber rifle round will do it nicely. So to me at least.. this round seems a little gimmicky. Anyways.. without any hard facts on ballistics, this vid tells me pretty much nothing. No gel-test, no chronograph, not even manufacturers data.
Again, a fantastic job at both demonstrating and explaining everything about the gun. Seriously there’s no reason for you to use any other representative than her in your videos. Anyway, this gun is quite interesting and so is the very unique ammunition it fires, bullets look very similar to something like 500 / 600 Nitro Express. Thanks for another great video 👍
@@fabiolong4046 I am pretty sure the Russian gun engineers will have no problem finding a way to make an automatic rifle cycle a 500 nitro express. I mean let’s be honest; they have been pretty good at engineering everything else so far.
Stated clearly that it's CLOSE QUARTERS. No Magic 3000 yard sniping claims. I'd actually like one.... she also does a great job of presenting the information in English when clearly it is not her primary language!!! Well done!
From what I gathered it's more or less the equivalent of what our swat would use designed for up close stopping power with as limited spread as possible
Damn, thats a big can. Edit to add: damm that height over bore with the optic. Hate think of what the offsets are at 300m. This round probably has a rainbow trajectory.
Of course it's got a rainbow arc. It's a straightwalled, subsonic, half inch projectile. Even if you go supersonic the cartridge and gun are limited by design to be good at subsonic.
Noticed one nice feature that sets it above the 50BEO is the double stack mag. She didn't say how many rounds it holds but it's got to be more than the BEO's 7rds in an AR 30rd mag.
Few problems from what i see. The sight is pretty high above barrel so depending on the balistics of the round it can cause some zero problems especially when using multiple types of ammo.The us used some ar platforms thar had a sight set up like this but because of the bullet balistics with the 5.56 is worked out OK…. Bull pup rifles are not prefered amoung many soldiers as they are more difficult to reload in full kit. And the charging handle would only be prefered for left handed shooters. Seems like a nit pick but anyone who has been in heavy combat can atest that your life is a matter of milimeters and nanoseconds.
Just a note, if you rifle has a maximum effective range of 100m, you probably don't need a magnification optic, you need a reflex one. put a red dot or a holo on there and really emphasize the close quarters aspect.
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"Not just hitting but smashing enemies", I like how she spoke of it. LOL
I know, I know.
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ikr, say what you want about Russia but they come across as pretty alpha here lol. America's all like "ohh no please mr. terrorists, you guys are just misunderstood, here, take all our military equipment. Btw don't worry, we won't attack, we're too busy making our military gender pronoun friendly." meanwhile Russia's just like "Here's 50. cal bullpup comrade, it kills terrorists even harder, it's so brutal, it'll even make them explode through walls! Also here's an attractive host to advertise it. We know what our operators want."
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She is very attractive lol
Pretty russian chick ✅
Big gun with big bullet ✅
massive silencer ✅
was not dissapointed. 10/10
Hear Hear!
You are a man of culture
I laughed a little when a Russian lady told me that was it was the best rifle when "The safety of innocent people is top priority"
Next we are going to have a video where a Chinese official comes out and says the same thing. lolol
@@liberatorkramit Times change don't they... They designed a whole ass weapon and cartridge specifically for it... It'd be safe to assume it's because the priorities changed as well.
Forever judging on the basis of past mistakes without ever adjusting the view is a bit dumb.
HEAR! HEAR!
This host does a great job. She should be in all your videos.
You sure that's the reason? 😏😏
@@marwanwalidols94 I'll admit it, she's easy on the eyes and ears, AND her presentation skills are on point. She's an excellent host.
@@timblackx13 these are guns not cam girls we don't need to simp.
@@mike-ws3jl implying that you simp for cam girls
@@epicn And I said, but I will.
A quintessential Russian rifle. There is no such thing as overkill. A man-portable artillery barrage.
That silencer man. WOW, like you truly were killing someone silently with that thing lol
@@オールマイト-y1f Put a car muffler on it. Seriously, the suppressor probably lowers the sound signature considerably but I doubt it has a long service life. That would be alot of gas pressure to baffle. Probably helps manage recoil too, if the balance is good
@@j.chriswatson6847 yeah, I'd imagine a full mag full auto on that would render that silencer done and dusted lol.
@@j.chriswatson6847 am sure she said SPECIAL FORCES .....and specialty hostage situation .....suppressor dont need to work for next 3 day on est front :))
Look up .50 Beowulf, which predates this platform by 10 years, and is available on standard, AR-15 lower platforms.
At first, the idea of a 12.7 mm assault rifle made me laugh. However, once the specialist nature of the weapon was explained, the large caliber became understandable. The assault rifle type is normally centered on high capacity magazines allowing for profligate ammunition use, but this weapon is intended for people that train to hit with every shot, so the reduced capacity of any magazine to hold 12.7 mm rounds is not a serious issue. Hopefully, this will not appear in a "Forgotten Weapons" video for a long time.
Never heard of the 50 beowolf round? Same idea done worse
Its been in games for years so who knows. Its kinda popular
458 SOCOM is also a thing. This bullpup design is pretty cool.
I hope Gun Jesus gets a chance to take a look at one of these on Forgotten Weapons. Not because it's forgotten, but sometimes he covers a thing or two just because it's super cool and someone has one. I'd do the same if I could.
@@420anonymous its not French enough
"...not just hitting but smashing an enemy..."
"...with the second round you destroy the enemy."
Why i love Russia; straight to the point and clear, no BS, no PC, no wrapping it in.
Da !
PC is very unpopular in Russia.
yes, no small talk here!
I was thinking this. No pussyfooting around saying how 'fun' to shoot it is, it's for blasting bad guys, plain and simple!
@@Stoic_grimace or political enemies or hostages.
12.7mm Jesus Christ I want to see some ballistic dummy torso tests of that impact because it must be immense
Legend has it that they are still searching for the pieces 😀
@@bmbpdk It's .5 cal basically, but less powerful than say, the Barrett as it has a smaller cartridge. There's an American weapon called the Beowulf that is a similar concept.
It's a 12.7x55, not the extinction level event 12.7x108.
@@jamesbaskerville9800 thank you, now if Brandon Herrera could just make the AK-50!
@@longbow6416 We'll be living on Pluto before the ak-50 gets made
In mother Russia, you don't just hit the enemy, you smash him
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this what they be running on checkpoints, just be able.to blow up cars engine on a notice, like that beowulf did
In mother Russia, you invade a helpless country a quarter of your size and still get your ass kicked
@@atriccswardgaming1721 cry, baby, cry XD
Combination of weapon, woman host and a hard russian accent gives this video very strong RedAllert vibe
That is awesome! Love to see some ballistic gel and other appropriate materials tests; hard to visualize the impact a round like this has.
You might need a new size of ballistic gel block to keep the round from simply ripping it into pieces.
- Тут какая-то странная девушка хочет продать нам штурмовое ружье.
- Откуда она?
- Не знаю. У нее тяжелый русский акцент.
- Тяжесть - это хорошо. Тяжесть - это надежность.
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Wonderful host. That is amazing , the variety of specialized munitions is like wow. Obviously your corporation can provide a customer with literally anything required for their police/military needs. Well done
What about muh civilian needs? Cuz I definitely need this.
Wonderful becauseeeeee......
@@dial0foroperator cus she's a babe!
This could give the M41a pulse rifle a run for it's money. Good choice for xenomorph removal.
it does look like an M41a a bit
It's just missing the red digital ammunition counter on the side...
Looks like the bullpup weapon from the movie Total Recall that the Mars Colony Troops used.
Took the words right out of my post! Aliens' "pulse rifles" were dressed-up Tommy guns IRL, and despite the bullpup action, this new gun seems both inspired by, and intended to supersede, that venerable weapon. Wonder how many armor-piercing, exploding-tipped bullets would fit into a drum clip.
That's why I clicked on the vid. I said woah they finally made it.
This rifle is not necessary any more because her smile has already shot my heart.
Very impressive. Im an American. And for the record, literally no one in my country wishes to see conflict across field from our Russian brothers. Because it just would be unecessary and wastefull because we have so many common enemies.
No more brother wars.
that and russia just seems cool as fuck. the people are strong minded and really have their people and country in their heart. america could use a little more of that i think instead of all the bitching and arguing.
no one wants war. unfortunanely this is america came with armourment to our borders, not russia stands in mexican border.
our common enemies are capitalists. We are hired workers have nothing to divide. Race, nation, language-doesn't matter
As always, it is politicians and those that bribe them and profit from war that inspire the conflict. When you get to meet people from around the world, we're generally willing to relax, share a drink, and even discuss our ideals.
It is like a proto-bolter.
FOR THE EMPEROR!
An AA12 or similar Automatic 12ga platform is much closer to a Bolter, but for a Stubber this thing will definitely do. O.o
@@mouseblackcat5263 shotgun is a shotgun. Bolter is a basically automatic grenade launcher that fires self-propeled AP explosive mini-rockets
I wonder what identity HE has taken in present times.
@@Get5ome Not if you look at the specs. A bolter round is 12ga diameter, and uses basically a metal shot shell (as they originally were all metal, not plastic) as a protective casing and booster charge for the GyroJet Style Rocket Projectile.
We literally have all the technology of a Bolter right now, decades old, its just putting all the peices together would make the A T F throw an absolute fit. O.o
Also perhaps you forgot that we have Shotguns with rifled barrels made specifically for firing Slugs. Just because its a "shotgun" does not mean it is SmoothBore or firing Shot Shells.
Also several militaries have done testing with 2 Stage 12ga shells, mostly explosives and micro grenades. So pop a rocket motor on the back of a 12ga grenade you have a Bolter Round, and there have been fully automatic 12ga Machine Pistols for Decades already, so yeah... Bolters basically already exist they are just MASSIVELY Restricted by Governments. O.o
@@viliboy Well, after His carrier on British television was not to His liking, He went to Hollywood and became an internationally recognized movie star, and then went back to television, with greatly improved results.
A strange plan, but it seems to be working.
It has a weapon-companion for the same ammo: RSh-12 (Sturm Revolver), in case if there are too many fliying elephants in the patrol zone. Same concept as FN P90 and FN Five-Seven.
well, there is a gap from 5.7mm to 12.7mm xd. One was made for armor penetrationg and other for stoping power
IED laden car stoppage.....
@@juanordonezgalban2278 both the 5.7 and the P90 use the same ammo; So does this rifle and the revolver mentioned. This is for ease of use, both weapons firing the same cartridge means you can carry 1 ammo type instead of two.
@@flailmail7069 Maybe Rsh-12 for shieldman?
That’s the most American thing I’ve ever heard outside of America. I love it
Honestly I'd love to see a ballistic comparison with currently used clearing weapons, not just ballistic dummies but how they react with walls. I'm curious about the lack of fragmentation they mentioned along with potential over penetration. Definitely looks like a neat platform though!
Most interesting to see what can do anti-ricochet bullet with dummie. That bullet is very light, it has massive aluminium core and weights about 108 grain. But that thing is only for Russia - most of the russian buildings are made of concrete/bricks. In the building with drywall it most likely will go through several walls. And AP rounds should be over penetrating even against concrete. But there's no any information about muzzle velocity of supersonic bullets. Only for subsonic one - 950-1017 feet per second.
This round seems similar to .50 beowulf. Cool to see a comparison.
@@sinisterthoughts2896 At first glance that is what I thought it was.
Ballistic performance of the Beowulf after about 200 yards is abysmal to say the least at 300 yards there is almost six feet of drop.
For close engagements it's fuckin sick tho. I've been waiting for something like this since 300 blackout got popular. One of the next steps in the heavy subsonic suppressed game imo
I love the silhouette of the rifle. It looks amazing
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Russia: Close quarters precision silenced assault sniper in .50 cal
Sounds strange enough.
I like it.
The Bear It .50 😂
One step closer to the Holy Bolter
Very close
They have in the same cal- assault revolver RA-12
Exactly!! Glad I'm not the only one feel about this gun.
Sweet gun! The AKGuy needs one!
I would straight up watch an anime series about this woman's day to day life.
She does an exceptional job introducing this fantastic rifle!
Concern about innocent life in hostage situation?
Russian: *USE BIGGER GUN*
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It looks nice, basically a bullpup .50 Beowulf/.458 SOCOM with a 12-14 inch or so barrel equipped with a QD mount for a muzzle brake or suppressor based on mission requirements. I did appreciate the warhead modifications, I am surprised you didn't go for a sabot for a longer ranged ammunition option, of course that would probably affect the point accuracy for the extra velocity and range. I assume the high velocity 100M range round is a lighter grain frangible warhead that destabilizes at long range, good for short range urban use. I am surprised that you are getting accuracy out to 300 meters with the AP round, you must be reducing the weight of the projectile quite alot to get that initial push of acceleration without using a sabot as this round doesn't look like it could take too high pressure of a powder load. What twist rate are you using to stabilize the rounds? The wide variety of projectile weights and velocities must make it difficult to manage. Around 1:20 or so seems right for the high accuracy rounds but 1:15 seems better for the heavy subsonic rounds, maybe split the difference?
Sabots don’t work without a barrel designed for them. You would need a faster twist rate to stabilize a sabot round which could possible over stress a normal bullet causing it to rip its jacket off, the only other way around this is to use monolithic copper ammo which is very expensive.
Also having the problem of the discarded sabot going all over the place is pretty bad for a CQB focused gun
@@ridhosamudro2199 It's not a sabot, it's a jacketed AP round like more or less all the other AP rounds used by Russia.
@@TheAirborneSpud he mentioned his surprise of not using sabots. I answered that.
I know a discarding sabot isn't optimal outside of a smooth bore I was just wondering how they got the range they claimed with the AP round without adding too much pressure for the casing to handle. (The longer case length probably helps though.)
They seem to be going for a dual role short and mid range weapon system, with a 300 blackout for example you would have different magazines with ammunition for short range (heavy grain) or medium range (lighter grain, higher powder load), if you go too light on the bullet though you can destabilize the round and lose accuracy which is why I was curious about the twist rate of the barrel.
To get armor piercing against plate armor or vehicle armor at that range with such a large bullet you would need serious velocity even with a fairly long barrel and a steel core penetrator, a sabot would have been one of the ways to do it though obviously not optimally (unless you put a wee little heat warhead on it of course :P).
This is why the Oden is my favourite AR in MW'19
A full rifle that fires special subcaliber 12.7 ammunition thats a hybrid between subcaliber and full caliber. Absolute Frankensteins weapon
I was curious about how much it would affect an infantryman to carry this type of ammunition.
18.0 grams for 12.7x55mm per round (based on Wikipedia, people aren't sure what the average weight really is)
16.1 grams for 7.62x39mm per round
11.7 grams for 5.45x39mm per round
30 rounds x 7 magazines x 18.0g= 3780g -> 8.3 pounds
30 rounds x 7 magazines x 16.1g= 3423g -> 7.5 pounds
30 rounds x 7 magazines x 11.7g= 2457g -> 5.4 pounds
I feel like this would be used by checkpoint guards and counter terrorism teams
it is for home defense so....
@@milokhanh313 It´s for repainting the walls for sure.
As far as I am aware this.. "Lead Dispenser" was requested by the FSB, or more like a gun with such specifications and so far they are the only "Institution" in russia that adopted the weapon. So it´s used in counter terrorism operations. I had a nice picture once of a guy in full gear and a ShaK-12 that was casually doing his job in a pair of swim shorts and flip flops.. if I find it again I will give you guys the link.
ShAK-12 uses only 10 and 20 round mags
"Introducing the ShAK 12 in 12.7mm"
'Brandon Herrera's crotch begins tingling'
He has a video where he fired similar ammunition. Brandon's idea is to make an AK with 50 bmg. This is a completely different ammunition, despite the fact that the caliber is also 12.7.
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@@ЧьеЧья-э6к He made it (the AK-50) and it looks fantastic.
Wow! What a crazy, 12.7mm assault rifle! Amazing! Good for close quarter combat and urban operations. ❤❤❤👍
The Khabib of assault rifles.
It doesn't just defeat the enemy. It Smesh them.
Most of the time you have a rifle with a suppressor attached.
This is a suppressor with a rifle attached.
“12.7mm? Shot its a shotgun or a rifle?”
“Yes.”
Subsonic ammo, with muzzle speed lower than the speed of sound, combined with the suppressor/silencer is harder to hear than 7,62x39 suppressed.
Measuring dB would be a proof.
you can get 7.62 x 39 subsonic rounds that are around 155 grains or so, though those rounds are not too common I i know good old cheap Tula makes some..
Well, subsonic means speeds lower than the sound barrier. And the the most telling part of a rifles report is the crack, so if it's suppressed and using subsonic rounds it will be harder to hear than basically any supersonic firearm. That is how that works, and was mostly covered in the video.
I have no idea how this ended up in my recommended, but it's fascinating.
You need to keep this woman doing your videos, she's awesome.
50 beowulf is 12.7x42 so this must be devastating out of an automatic rifle, and a bullpup on top. I'm impressed Russia!
What a beast of a weapon. Imagine getting ripped apart by it 😅
Umm, no, thank you. I'll just sit here at my computer and watch the video, if that's OK.
I'd rather not. Seems unhealthy to dwell on.
Uhm…. I’ll assume your not talking about the gun. 😝
Imagine failure? Very strange and how about imagining the round blasting through a brick wall around Mach One.
Who tf sees a gun and fantasizes about getting shot with it. Seek help.
I wonder how the ballistics of the 12.7x55mm compares to similar rounds like .50 Beowulf and .458 SOCOM? Short range, low velocity, high mass ammunition - I wonder if we'll see a new class of weapons emerge in the near future?
Militaries have actually gone the other direction trying to find a higher knockdown at a further range.
I hope it gets adopted by Russia,because this gun really sucks
Could fill the role of shotguns potentially. Interesting middle ground with how slow and heavy the rounds are. Good for suppressing too. Very interesting for close quarters engagements. The narrower cartridge makes it more viable than shotties to use stick mags for one thing. A lot of war is going to be fought underground in the future. Potential total ground coverage of autonomous drones guarantees that. China specifically has been prepping for fighting in tunnels for a while now.
@@chloedemeter5473 I’m guessing it really only need to keep its full kinetic potential up to around 100 meters. Anything beyond that is outside the scope of CQB.
Couldn’t have been more eloquently executed.. she takes the cake
I don't know what I should be more impressed with, that gorgeous host. Or that badass rifle. Well done
This looks like a development of the idea started with the VKS. I don’t think ‘stopping power’ is such a good term to use here, I think kinetic energy is a more accurate description of what you mean when it comes to penetrating cover or armoured targets. Impressive firearm and very compact, I imagine the muzzle blast is killer!
Muzzle blast? I mean... DID YOU SEE THE SIZE OF THE SUPPRESSOR NEEDED TO TAME IT! If you run out of ammo the suppressor doubles as a club! lol
How much energy does a grain of sand carry at the speed of light? Stopping power is a fine term.
If I throw a bowling ball at you at 25 mph or shot you with a .45 acp I’d impart the same kinetic load into you provided the .45 stopped in your body. But only one would guarantee you being put on your ass. Size matters in real life. Regardless of what you’re girlfriend says.
@@StAlchemyst Hahaha cracking mate.
@@TheTmshuman Speed is far more important if they're wearing armour. If they're not, as long as you can break skin and bone all that matters is where you hit them. For that reason, a bigger bullet doesn't really offer any advantage, whereas a faster one is more accurate which is an advantage. Of course, it's a balancing act as make the bullet too small and it won't matter how fast it is as it'll deform too much to hit anybody hiding behind anything. This is a problem a lot of 5.56 loads have, whereas the slower but larger 7.62x39 can penetrate such cover. However, if you hit someone with a 5.56, the bullet causes far more internal damage than the 7.62x39 which over-penetrates. So it is a balancing act between penetrating armour or cover and terminal ballistics.
@@djwoody1649 you really don’t understand why the US moved to 5.56 do you? Do you know why we are going to the 6.8 now? Bigger bullets offer higher cross sectional density, long range and better stability (lower CD to stay supersonic longer) and generally better terminal ballistics.
The 45 acp is a very very old cartridge and was designed with a very low peak pressure of around 32k psi. There are however modern loadings that will work in most HK pistols and other high end 1911’s called 45 super, which has a thicker case and generates comparable pressures to other modern loadings such as 10mm. It is by far more devastating than 9mm.
Without hydrostatic shock/permanent stretch cavity, bigger bullets make bigger holes and drop blood pressure faster and crush more bone and destroy more tissue and more consistently transfer their energy as compared to a smaller bullet with the same energy.
A 16lbs bowling ball to your chest at 25mph is going to incapacitate you 10 out of 10 times. A 9mm to the chest will not. They both have roughly the same energy.
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Awesome weapon, very good build.
Are we talking about the rifle here, or?
A dedicated short range sledgehammer. I love this thing.
She’s great! And Good writing as well as good production.
What a beautiful lady! The rifle also, it's a beast! ;-) Every enemy would get a straight destroying impact from it :)
Seems similar to 450 Bushmaster in AR platform, often called a thumper. I do like the bullpup design because these large calibers require long barrels to get max effectiveness out of the round.
I was thinking .50 beowulf
It's a neutered .50 beowolf
12,7х55
I need this for home security!
This is starting to be my new favorite rifle. this is legit just a gun that shoots boulders.
This has to be the shortest-travel short-stroke I've ever seen, I'd LOVE to see the internals of it. It's basically an assault rifle with the capability of a slug shotgun.
I love my Russian brothers, and sisters.
God bless you all. Excellent stopping power.uch love From the USA
The main point is .338 Lapua case and 55mm full diameter length vs 40/42/43mm for predecessors .458 socom/.50 beowulf and the .450 bushmaster. This would be very popular in USA civilian market. Full auto was surprising, but then anti terror duty has a need. Bullpup good choice.
I always thought a pcc in 45 win mag would be the cats pyjamas. Big bullet, strait case, sub or supersonic. Wouldnt have the case capacity or energy development of a 12.7x55mm, thats kind of huge, but for CQB subs it wouldn't be that much of a difference.
@Timothy Mckee there is 45 super that runs at 28kpsi, higher than the 20kpsi of 45acp. I am just a huge fan of subsonic heavy big bullet stuff. 9x39 (0.362 i think) has 265gr bullets. There is jacketed bullets up to 350gr for .452 usually for 460sw. When you have to keep speed down you want to keep mass up. A sub gun that splats out 350gr bullets as fast as a 1911 spits out 200gr would be a pretty effective room cleaning tool. I dont think it matters what you do, the 45acp o.a.l. will stop you from getting a bullet that heavy to meaningful velocity.
@Timothy Mckee .45 super is an upgrade to acp, but the op mentioned 45 win mag which is a madman compared to either of them.
I believe there was a company that did conversions for M1 Carbines in 45 Win.
I think there may have been 10mm Mag conversions too.
Either way, I always thought something like that would make a sweet PCC or woods gun.
When I first saw this I noticed this looks like an upscaled and auto-rimmed version of the 45-70. In a 12.7mm (approx. 50-51 caliber) the bullet weight could be 500+ grains.
The supersonic ammo would be an even better bear stopper than 45-70. Against a human it would be brutal, with or without a vest.
I could see this caliber gaining a following here in the US for hunting.
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Very impressive tool. I imagine rounds of any type are not easy to acquire.
And that's a good thing!
@@genepozniak???
Nor is the rifle, so... (this intended for a professional and military contract scenario where they will purchase thousands of rounds per rifle as a package when they buy a set. Not really a retail item.)
@@sinisterthoughts2896 Yet!
@@genepozniak You realize someone can not only make, but own much more devastating rounds?
Oh, those Russians and their passion for the overkill.
Ease of use while wearing bulky weather protection as well as functioning reliably in harsh conditions is most impressive.
I don't what I like more, the rifle or the teacher👍
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This video really just makes me sad, cause I know I'll never get to own one. Basically my dream gun right here.
And as many others have said, excellent host as well. Didn't mess around talking up the gun, just straight no BS overview.
Awesome video, liked and subbed!
how hard is it?
Just buy one in Tarkov. It has the advantage of having an accurate one-tap round, followed by 19 rounds flying in every direction you can think of.
You'd think she or someone (or the specs listings) might have mentioned the assorted bullet weights/velocities achieved, so buyers could compare these to .458 SOCOM or .50 Beowulf, etc...
Not really. They aren't advertising for competitors. This is an advertisement for an arms company. Their customer base is basically only police and military, so they don't need to win over consumers. They will sell the proprietary ammo with the firearms in lots. Groups that must worry about logistics don't want variety, it just complicates things.
Impressive. Thanks!👍
Now I'm no gun expert, but did you see the "Burst" the guy did at the beginning, that guy BUCKLED.
When the cartridge was described, I thought of the .45-70 GOV . It was effective in taking down horses.
Yeah.. thats exactly the cartridge that came to my mind as well. Tbh. I cannot see the purpose of this weapon. Stopping power? You dont need this if you are killing humans..
@@moparman1692 it was mentioned in the video; drugged up terrorists who basically didn't react to being shot, so they made a round that's impossible to ignore.
@@n_tas you dont have to reinvent the wheel. There are plenty of rounds out there that will create that effect. Almost any high caliber rifle round will do it nicely. So to me at least.. this round seems a little gimmicky. Anyways.. without any hard facts on ballistics, this vid tells me pretty much nothing. No gel-test, no chronograph, not even manufacturers data.
@@moparman1692 Maybe for covert operations against enemy with body armor?
@@ether23-23 yes.. or hostage rescue. But my point still stands. What does this round do that at least a dozen rounds dont do already?
Again, a fantastic job at both demonstrating and explaining everything about the gun. Seriously there’s no reason for you to use any other representative than her in your videos.
Anyway, this gun is quite interesting and so is the very unique ammunition it fires, bullets look very similar to something like 500 / 600 Nitro Express.
Thanks for another great video 👍
I seen your a man of culture as well 😏
They designed a .50 Beowulf that doesn't suck.
Then they built an entire bullpup weapon system to use the cartridge.
That's badass.
500 / 600 Nitro Express automatic? Not a chance.
@@fabiolong4046 I am pretty sure the Russian gun engineers will have no problem finding a way to make an automatic rifle cycle a 500 nitro express.
I mean let’s be honest; they have been pretty good at engineering everything else so far.
@@socialghost4400 it would be far too stressful on the gun if it was meant to be carried.
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I almost forgot the small SMG Groza, it was famous like Abakan AN-94 when first introduced and marketed but then losing presence in firearms hot topic
Nah that's direct blowback gun, so more like PPS or PPSH on steroids.
They have the frangible and armor piercing ammunition backwards. Really great video and cool rifle
Stated clearly that it's CLOSE QUARTERS. No Magic 3000 yard sniping claims. I'd actually like one.... she also does a great job of presenting the information in English when clearly it is not her primary language!!! Well done!
12.7mm = 50cal rounds, wonder how many rounds per mag? 10, 16, 20? Looks like AS Val turned into modern bullpup rifle.
Its not .50 cal.
@@ilijapilipovic Its .50 ))
10 or 20 rounds
@@ilijapilipovic .50 cal = 0.5inch = 12.7mm
its something like .50 beowulf
@@ilijapilipovic It is though.
Russia would be so badass, cool, and “based” if they legalise guns for their citizens. ❤️ ☦️ 🇷🇺
There are two weapons in this video and both are beautiful ))
From what I gathered it's more or less the equivalent of what our swat would use designed for up close stopping power with as limited spread as possible
I could watch this girl talk about weapons all day long. Great video.
This should have been used in the movie "The Tomorrow War."
Good to hear the russians learned a lesson on hostage situations , never again the special Purpose/spetsnaz units would be stained by an old mistake .
Like gassing a bunch of civilians? Don't worry that stain is blood, and it doesn't wash off.
@@sinisterthoughts2896 what does that correlates to the weapon ?
Damn, thats a big can.
Edit to add: damm that height over bore with the optic. Hate think of what the offsets are at 300m. This round probably has a rainbow trajectory.
It is not meant to be used at 100m, let alone 300 :)
That's a removable carry handle. There's a rail below it if you want it lower
Of course it's got a rainbow arc. It's a straightwalled, subsonic, half inch projectile. Even if you go supersonic the cartridge and gun are limited by design to be good at subsonic.
I just love how that thing is an assault rifle than a battle rifle
Noticed one nice feature that sets it above the 50BEO is the double stack mag. She didn't say how many rounds it holds but it's got to be more than the BEO's 7rds in an AR 30rd mag.
10 or 20 rounds
Few problems from what i see. The sight is pretty high above barrel so depending on the balistics of the round it can cause some zero problems especially when using multiple types of ammo.The us used some ar platforms thar had a sight set up like this but because of the bullet balistics with the 5.56 is worked out OK…. Bull pup rifles are not prefered amoung many soldiers as they are more difficult to reload in full kit. And the charging handle would only be prefered for left handed shooters. Seems like a nit pick but anyone who has been in heavy combat can atest that your life is a matter of milimeters and nanoseconds.
I would imagine since this is for counter terrorist forces they would just remove the carry handle sight for some kind of red dot / magnified optic
Wait, the Odin from COD:MW (2019) wasn't a made-up gun?"
Damn, I need to buy me one of these.
yes
*Oden
For people wondering, this is ASH-12 in Escape from Tarkov. This gun is fun like sometimes tossing scavs/pmcs in air. 😂
And it is the Oden in COD Modern Warfare 2019.
Ah, the first round showcased, the subsonic round! It goes slower, but weighs more, so it doesn’t lose out on impact force as much. That’s cool.
"net slov" ! she does such a great job in presenting the firearm, left me speechless.
"Shmesh the enemy"
а я уж думал барышне дадут пострелять)))
Сдует отдачей симпатяшку.
Она вообще-то стреляет в некоторых видосах
@@alexanderkovalev9489 но не калибром 12.7
@@UncleQ57 эт верно. Мне её так было жалко когда из СР1 стреляла.
Yes, I would enjoy watching her presenting anything firearms related. Dasvidniya baby
Straight face, straight to the point I like her
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Just a note, if you rifle has a maximum effective range of 100m, you probably don't need a magnification optic, you need a reflex one. put a red dot or a holo on there and really emphasize the close quarters aspect.
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Holy hell, those bullets are huge. Subscribed!
for its effective range I was really expecting the optic mount to be even higher off the bore axis
Wow! That rifle is as gorgeous as the host explaining. I've always enjoyed Russian small arms.
not so small
I liked it, an assault rifle in the bullpup format would be very interesting for police forces and also for hunters in wild boar control.