Okay fine, I bought a f@$%ing Aimpoint T2
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Aimpoint's position in the market is increasingly threatened by more agile companies like SIG and Holosun. The T2 may be way behind the curve but quality control never goes out of style.
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The irony is poetic.
Hop loves his favorite optic, but it's too boring and thus never bought one.
Hop hates LPVOs, but keeps buying them because they're interesting
I give it 4 months till he sells it.
SIP FROG.
WTS Aimpoint T2 450
Feels good man.
@@Hoplopfheil Don't let Starve know.
You should get into reviewing more armor
@@Hoplopfheil Is this still for sale?
Wow it's so boring it even drained you of most of your snark.
Nooooo!
I think you mean Snark™
Damn, a design so good that...
There are literally two types of people in this world.
*T2 or nothing
*How can they charge so much for a red dot
😂 Nailed it!
Yup... 800 for a dot is enough for a decent 2 day class...
I'd prefer to spend the 800 getting an EOTech for the rifle & have enough left over for an extra pistol optic.
@@pewpewTN i was able to snag an exps3 for $625 on a sale and tossed it on a Unity riser. All in I was at 725. I’m a firm believer just buy what you want even if it means spending a few more bucks. I grew up playing modern warfare 2 so I will forever be an eotech fan boy. Luckily they are a smidge cheaper than aimpoint
When an Eotech Exps3 with magnifier brand new is under $1k, that $850 price seems ridiculous.
Best Aimpoint "I've had my fun, but now I'm ready to settle" T2 review ever.
Lmao 🤣
I love Hop's reviews. I really don't care what it is he's talking about, I just like the way that he does it.
yeah, he could be talking gibberish and i'll be watching it anyway.
I'm just here for the witty quips 🥱
I'm here for the bussy
His style makes me want to watch. He gets to the point. He's articulate and concise.
Insert Marge Simpson meme: "I just think he's neat." lol
"People who have never been outside before will tell you that weight doesn't matter." 🤣 Never change, Hop. This is part of why your reviews are so good, you just call it like it is.
He's right though. People that think the weight of your rifle and gear doesn't matter haven't ever trained..I used to think that too, till I actually started training....
Holosun Knock-off.
If it’s used, I’m going for the Aimpoint tho
Based
Holosun knock off? Aimpoint created the red-dot back in the 1980's. Developed CERT technology so all Aimpoint red-dots have a 5 year battery life. Starting with the M-3 or ML-3 model. Not one Holosun has that kind of battery life. All finishes on Aimpoint red-dot optics are better than Holosun's anodized coatings. You get what you pay for. Chinese made Holosun's just don't cut it.
@@whomagoose6897 Ladies and gentlemen, we got him
@@whomagoose6897whoosh 🙄
Hop has become a standard of knowledge and frankly how most guys think. Why companies are worried about having a hop approved stamp on their products astounds me
The industry, like others, functions on who you know and what polite lies you're willing to tell on behalf of the next guy
They don't want to be lumped in with Taurus! But if it works it works... Better yet if it's 90% as good and is less than 1/4 the price you'd have to be a hard core larper to buy the thing. Hops YT check must have finally arrived!
Managing to strip a flat head screw is a feat in and of itself…. But managing to strip a flathead screw that is a turret adjustment on a gun sight is just insane. It’s not like it’s under a lot of torque.
pretty sure bushnell rds turret caps are made of the softest metals known to man. but still didnt strip them lol
It's a mix of brass and cottage cheese.
But seriously though, people ruin turret cap screws because humans are terrible.
never messed with Zenitco stuff have you? i HATE their screws
@@Fadaar that's cause they are made of stalinium
@@Fadaar I haven’t lol. Bad? I’ve messed with some seriously questionable hardware on cars, lawn mowers and small equipment. Some was even from the factory. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again… flat head and Phillips head screws have no place on a car or anything that requires serious torque. Look at them wrong and they strip.
The price is absolutely ridiculous on T2’s but I still have and love mine
23 year old anecdote here. When I was issued an M68 (whatever Aimpoint that was), as a lefty that rheostat wheel was constantly rubbing on my gear and turning off and or on the dot.
Comp m2 probably
Your fault for being a lefty!
Comp M2 or Comp M4 depending upon battery (m2 is 1/3n and m4 is AA battery)
@@DustinS. It def was not a AA. I am guessing it was the M2 then.
That's the fun part of the M68. They are all the M68 CCO. Not M68, M68A1, M68A2. They are the M68.
Foward Control Designs make aftermarket turret caps for the T1/T2 that enables people to use flat head screw drivers and you don’t need to remove them to adjust.
@@timrobinson6573 He says 1 minute into the video he paid $850
@@timrobinson6573 where do you find these sucker prices? They’re $650 on EuroOptic. With a pic mount.
@@timrobinson6573 Oh, its you again, providing useful comments to help people. If you are not going to add something of benefit to the discussion why are you even here? Aimpoints are no where near $1200. I bought mine for around $650. They can be found with good mounts for around $800.
@@RONIN_SATS Cheapest I can find them for here in Germany is 900-950 EUR without a mount or 1k+ with a mount (that's 950-1100 USD). So thank you, but I'm sticking to my Holosuns. The HS403 (which basically has the same features as the T2 with just the dot and no solar backup or any of that fancy stuff) can be had for just over 200 EUR. So given the choice of buying one T2 or four to five Holosuns (which functionally are the exact same for a civilian user that isn't jumping out of planes or doing beach assaults), I'll go with the Holosuns any day.
@@TheBigOne0305 I own and use Holosun as well. They are descent optics and nothing wrong with that. I have more Holosun than I do Aimpoint but that does not change the fact that my Aimpoint is better than my Holosun. For casual shooting, Holosun is fine, maybe preferred. But for hard use or end-of-times scenario, I would choose the Aimpoint 1000X over the Holosun. This is not a dig, just my opinion. My advice was to use Holosun (or some others) but maybe save up and purchase an Aimpoint so you can get info for yourself. Hey, if you don't like the Aimpoint you can easily sell it as there is a huge demand for used Aimpoint products. Cheers mate.
The spanner turret 100% seems like Aimpoint trying to separate themselves from cheaper products to seem more exclusive, like DD's marketing photos with the vert grip all the way forward.
Spanners are a security screw. It's definitely entering F-U.
Those DD photos have always bothered me lol. It’s not even really a vert grip, they’re too stubby. It’s more like a handstop, so it’s like they expect anyone with bigger hands to be gripping the flash hider😂
The theory with the end caps is the both eyes open aiming concept. With both eyes open, you don’t need a transparent objective lens cover. This also has additional benefits, like
1. Leave the brightness on a low setting to conserve battery life.
2. Still visible during the day since the solid objective lens cap prevents the sun from washing out the dot.
3. Already on a low setting, so it’s just drop the cap and turn on your NODs for night vision use.
4. Some red dots produce a visible red glow (depending on brightness setting) when looking at them from downrange. A solid objective cover prevents anyone from seeing your red dot when powered on.
The Aimpoint T2. The 350 Chevy of optics. It works. Nothing else to say.
Except it’s the most expensive one. More like the W16
Agree. I’d say the Aimpoint Pro is the Chevy 350
LS1...
Lt1
LS9
Your sentiment towards this optic is the exact sentiment I have towards Glocks
I’ve been following all the firearm RUclipsrs for a li’l over 10 years(when this hillbilly finally broke down and got internets). I’ve only just discovered you a few months ago, but, right next to Mark and Sam After Work, this is the best content on the webs. From one persnickity fella to another, well done.
Well said. The T2 is arguably Aimpoint's best overall optic and it is rather boring, but it does its job well.
Boring is extremely underrated when you just need something to work every single time.
@@MellowFellowOfYellow Yup, all of my go to guns have "boring" optics on them. ACOG on the AR, T2 on the VHS-2, MRO on the scorpion. I don't care about "new and exciting" I care about not worring about my optic.
@@forrest225 I don't find the ACOG boring at all.
It's just been around for a long time.
When you say boring, what do you mean, like are you saying you can just get it, slap it on, and then forget about it because it will always be there when you need it and you don’t have to think about it?
@@nathanskupowski4726 It's just a simple 2 MOA red dot sight with a twist on and off dial. No multiple reticles, no up or down buttoms, and comes with a red dot and no other colors to my knowledge.
Hop, your review of the MRO was a revelation of how bad it actually is. I got rid of it and got a T2 with a Geissele 1.93 mount for like 800 a while ago and haven't looked back.
It's hilarious to see you make the same transition that you started me on.
Edited to correct mistakes.
6:25 I think that video games may be one of, if not the biggest reason, for the focus on optic FOV, at least in online discussion. Obviously that's stupid, but I wouldn't underestimate just how ubiquitous the one-eyed digital sight picture is in common consciousness. I wouldn't underestimate how much that could be skewing some online discussions. As far as I am aware no game simulates this, obviously excepting VR. Some games defocus the rear sight, or optic housing, and that's about it.
Its Tarkovs fault
Tbh yeah I can see that. After watching more videos like this and shooting more I see it’s not really a big deal; but playing cod and other games growing up u always want the biggest fov red dot because u kinda only down one eye in a game. So I definitely think it probably impacted the discussion and focus on fov as I know many gun games r or were gamers when younger especially the younger generation I feel.
6:40 I just love the feeling of having a crosshair on my screen irl using the T-2 both eyes open, glad you mentioned this.
the apocalypse is going to start when hop smiles for the first time in his life
I'm going to buy an aimpoint now - You have influenced me.
Used maybe... 800 bucks no thanks
T2 window is kind small,so i choose M2 and Pro, it really great and cheap.
@@breckfreeride Got one recently for 650 from Big Tex Ordnance.
@@fisherchanKSKif u had to pick between the to money no object. Which one😊
Note: I bought the Scalarworks combo and they included the spanner as well as a T10 torx and a lens pen as well. The mount is absolutely beautiful 😍
It's a peice of aluminum?? It's just your basic t1/t2 riser. I don't see how that's beautiful lol.
No BS I was literally going back and forth between getting this or a holosun - the Same day I decided you dropped this video not even an hour later.
The algorithm is starting to go inverse
I'm conscious of my tube diameter but it seems to work and I don't hear any complaints. Sure, I wouldn't mind a larger tube but I'm just fine with mine.
I bought a t2 back in 2014, it's been on 4 different guns since then
I still hate the turrets with a passion
It has always been a struggle for me to look into one of these when I have several Romeo5s sitting on my pcc's or my ARs and never had a hiccup or issue ever. I have beat the crap out of my Sig and Holosun optics without issues. So picking up a sturdy reddot for 100-200 bucks will never let me pay 6-800.
I agree, but I just bought an Aimpoint H2 because it was one of the few optics that ultimak recommends for their AK gas tube rail. They say that the rail gets so hot under rapid fire that they can fry other optics. I've never had any trouble with my Romeo 5's and trust them completely trust them on my AR's and Pcc, but I don't know if they could handle the heat of the ultimak.
The big difference is the dot clarity with a magnifier no comparison
@@wesleyezell2361 I run a magnifier on my primary rifle and have zero issues with dot clarity. Everything is crisp and clear.
8:51 I had the same realization a few months back when looking for a new red dot - battery life is so good, shake awake is just one more thing that can break.
Ended up buying a PA microprism for the etched reticle anyway.
Love my old T1 and My T2 on Scalar 1.93. Another vote for the T2; it gets considerably brighter than a Comp M5. Much better for daylight.
I change my batteries every two years.
Oh and I have several Holosun and PA red dots. Solid for the price. I'm happy with them. They aren't Aimpoints.
After owning a few CompM5 s I've come to the theory that Aimpoint fixed the brightness on the newer models and gave them a nicer finish. Mine gets just as bright as my T2's. I have an older Comp M5 and it isn't as bright as my new one. The older one has more of a matte finish and the newer one looks more glossy.
@@CxS_Nico Understood. I've got a buddy who just grabbed an M5 from EuroOptics. Still much dimmer than my T2. Production variability or maybe EO is working through some older inventory?
Fellow PNW resident, been watching you forever trying to see if I could recognize any of your shooting locations. I finally recognize the location at 11:39!
I got a sig Romeo 5 for my larp cannon, I definitely don’t regret paying $130 for close enough performance. Especially since I don’t have night vision 🤷♂️
I thought I'd be worried about CR2032's but when I bought a RDS that uses them, I found out theyre only like 50 cents a pop, not nearly as bad as CR123
CR2032 optics last years.
CR123 optics last hours... despite the CR123 battery being bigger, stronger and more expensive. Doesn't make sense to my low IQ.
@@almostontimehero5415 I don't even own CR123 optics, I just know from illuminators and flashlights, those buggers are expensive and don't last super long, CR2032's are cheap! I don't have any reserves about using them anymore.
@@almostontimehero5415 because eotechs require a fuckload of power since it’s a true holo sight instead of a regular ole red dot
It’s my favorite red dot. But I run NVGs so the extra money seemed worth it. My next Aimpoint will be the Duty RDS
Did you ever pick up the Duty RDS? I’m very interested in it but can’t decide between it the Aimpoint PRO, Holosun AEMS or Romeo 4T. What are your thoughts?
@@mr.adventure6507did you decide what to go with? Looking at similar optics myself and can’t decide
I could be wrong, but I could have sworn that the Aimpoint T2 started out with both end caps being transparent and then switching over to have only the rear end cap be transparent.
Thank you for saying "could have" in instead of defiling yourself by saying "could of"
I think it’s actually a good thing. You can use it occluded when a white light may wash out the dot at close range.
How do you feel about could’ve?
They’ve changed it around over the years. Sometimes it’s both solid, one clear, or both clear.
@@MellowFellowOfYellow and you can buy the transparent cap directly from them, it's not expensive (like 20 bucks?) but it's annoying that they don't ship it that way, since I think it's what most people prefer.
I still have an Aimpoint T1 (4 MOA) which served for 15,000 rounds on my AK-RD build (mounted on an Ultimak gas tube) over the course of...around ten years. When originally purchased I stripped the optic's screw interface while trying to swap to a new mount. Aimpoint replaced it free of charge (and indicated in our phone conversation that they stripped several of them out while setting up a SHOT Show display). I guess the price you pay for soft aluminum bodies - an issue that probably remains?. However, once replaced I'm still running the same old T1. It's now been moved to a LEAP mount and serving on another rifle. I did actually get five years of constant on from my last battery. I have several Holosuns on my other rifles, but in a bad situation, I'd probably make sure the Aimpoint was the one I had on my fighting gun. I don't have the money (or the desire) to throw an $800 optic on every long gun I own. My old T1 was fortunately only $450 or so when I got it. Aimpoint does make a good product. I don't know if I'd pay $800+ for another one though. That's serious dough for a dot.
The truth of the matter is every gun you have doesn’t really need “the best” on it. If you have 5 ar’s and 4 of them are just range toys i don’t think anyone should care if the toys have holosun or other cheap optics. Just whatever is your “if i have to use something I’m grabbing X” get good stuff. Atleast that’s my rule
I have had a T1 on my duty gun since 2013. Love it. The T2 has heli-coil inserts in the body.
@@ACESHOT1O1 Yep, that's pretty much how I roll.
Welcome, we have been waiting for you to arrive.
As a left eye dominant shooter -- T2 has last stuff in front of your non-dominant eye than the Comp M5. That was the biggest deciding factor for me.
U shoot lefty also?
The best red dot sight ever created and worth every single damn penny. I’ve seen them fall out of helicopters still worked, get blown up still zero, dropped smashed you name it and still worked. I ran mine in Iraq to death year after year. She never complained or stopped working. There is no better red dot sight every designed than the T2
There is one benefit to the CompM5 not noted. Aimpoint changed the laser diode setups on the CompM5 and ACRO P2 to be a more efficient, lower power requiring system. My understanding is that, unlike the older aimpoints, the new system doesn't require the masking of the laser to create the dot but instead uses 100% of the laser. For my astigmatism the starburst I experience is very diminished with the compM5 and I assume that has something to do with how the shape of the dot is being created.
I've heard that speculated before but I have never seen a real source to indicate that it's true. SIG is pretty up front about their switch to point source emitters for better efficiency and dot clarity, but I've never seen Aimpoint make the claim that the emitter tech in the M5 and newer dots is different. It doesn't look any different and doesn't give them longer advertised battery life, if that's the case. Considering how much more juice is in even an Alkaline AAA vs a CR2032, the Comp M5 has the same 50k hour battery life rating. That doesn't suggest improved efficiency to me.
@@Hoplopfheil if you use a lithium aaa the life increases nearly doubles. Fairly confident that’s actually what Scalarworks recommends when they send out their package deals
@@ajsomp A high quality lithium AAA should have about 50 percent more energy than a typical alkaline so that sounds about right if they measure base batt life with an alkaline (which according to their website they seem to).
@@Hoplopfheil You're not wrong there. I've mostly heard of the improved emitters when the ACRO P2 was discussed, that one jumped from 10k to 50k battery life. I believed speculation on the compM5 because the dot looked very similar in clarity to the ACRO P2.
All I learned from watching this guy, is that if you have maybe…three grand. As long as you keep the receipt you can try everything and just return it after.
Based and customerpilled
5:25 I will say that with the clear fronts engaged you still have the possibility of giving off a significant amount of scope glint. I know because I thought the solid front caps were pointless too and bought the clears. What I would like is if they came out with some type of minimalist kill flash. The honeycomb style is too obstructive for me to like on a 1x
That’s interesting. I always gave Holosun kudos for including a kill flash and solid caps on the 515GT. But they have since phased out the solid caps in exchange for the clear. The issue is the honeycomb killflash obscures light transmission even more so on the less than ideal low light transmission of the glass. I wonder if that’s why Aimpoint doesn’t include them..
I’ve been told that whatever your rifle cost double it and that’s what you spend on your glass. I knew what I was getting into when I got into the game. 🇺🇸
It's not easy to spend that much on a red dot but thanks to the SIG 9T there is finally a way.
I use one of the new sig 4t’s that seems to have been updated combined with the acss magnifier. Good nv performance, great battery life, bdc and the magnifier give me acss ranging.
Comp M4 here for my short boi, can’t complain but the T2 weight is appealing. Maybe I’ll do both and run the T2 at 45 😅
I cowitness a comp m2 with a comp m4s 😉
At least it's not on your elcan rig as left and right 45 offsets.
@@breckfreeride Ah, the “ambidextrous canted” configuration 🤣
I may be wrong here - but every shake awake red dot I've owned will also turn on with any adjustment to the brightness.
Additionally, at least on Holosuns, you can totally disable shake awake and just go full manual mode. Even if the shake awake were to break or cease function, the optic could very easily be switched to a manual/traditional mode. As long as the shake awake dots have this feature set, I wouldn't look at having the option of shake awake as a disadvantage.
...Still increases the cost, though.
It may increase the cost but those dots still cost a fraction of the T2.
@@braydenkenney3313 And they have a fraction of the reliability, durability and QC to back them up. More often than not, glass clarity is also worse.
I went with the Romeo 8t and I’m very happy with it. The t2 was out of stock at the time but I don’t have regrets about it.
Cope.
@@frankcastenza6361what’s cope about this? I have both, the 8T is pretty sweet
@@koolnick69 I can't decide if I should get the 4t or 8t. Which is better and why? Literally no comparison videos out there
Your CompM5 rant was directed at me. I had a whole discussion about it yesterday, and my initial argument was exactly what you just destroyed. Thanks Hop. Never change.
You also bought an excellent mount for it. Nicely done, sir.
I've had a Aimpoint patrol rifle optic on a carbine for approx 5 years, many classes and hours of training, no issues. Stays on 24/7 and I change the battery once a year, even though it don't need it. I checked zero on it a couple weeks ago, still zeroed and I can't remember ever having to re-zero that optic. The same day, my friend brought a rifle with a eotech that he has never trained with, just a plinking rifle, he had nothing but issues with that optic. He asked me to shoot it and see if I could get it to zero, it wouldn't adjust out. Then he asked, "what do you think is wrong with it"? My reply, "it's not a Aimpoint"! I have not found an optic I would be willing to use to replace the Aimpoint.
Forward Controls design makes replacement turret caps that allow adjustment with a flathead
They also stick up past the protective shoulders, which seems like a bad tradeoff.
@@Hoplopfheil you’re not Aaron Cowan, you’ll be fine
@@kylehouge9690 this dude does more shooting in rough terrain and obscure environments. Aaron shoots flat range. Get that horse shit out of here we're not talking about concealed carry, were talking about a primary aiming method for a fighting carbine.
@@timrobinson6573 They are not 1200 though, I guess enough exposure to cheap chinese shit does that to your brain.
Aimpoints are the only red dots that doesn't fight against my awful astigmatism. Don't know why, but I was blown away what a red dot was actually suppose to look like.
So true, so real.
I have a bad astigmatism, and while I can still notice a starburst effect, it’s not too exaggerated. It turns the 2MOA dot to about 4MOA for me.
I suppose that in combat and things related to it, boring is good.
I was in the market for a T2 for so long BUT was hard af to get so I had a chance to get a lightly used Duty RDS on a Unity high mount for $400. Best purchase ever
Mine came with the tool on both turret caps and with a separate red hand tool. 🤷♂️
Perfect review, the ending really helped me out! and people remember he isn't sponsored by aimpoint nor works for them. He's just reviewing a product!
On a super bright day run the front cap closed- both eyes open- and you will have to turn the dot brightness down. Same for inside a bright white building- run it closed. Way easier to pick up a sight picture. Also, if you don’t want your optic reflecting, keep it closed. I shoot better with it closed, forces both eyes open. There is a reason is blacked out…
The parallax introduced by shooting an optic occluded like that makes it practically unusable beyond 10 yards. By 25 yards you're missing the target completely with a dead-on hold.
I still love my old school M68 Aimpoint. It's coming on 20 years old and still works perfectly. I don't leave it on all the time, but it's not exactly difficult to spin the knob quick when you pick up the rifle.
The t2 also had the 2nd least parallax shift in the test performed all those years ago. Oddly the t1 didn’t perform as well which always made me wonder.
whos the first at parallax shift department ?
@@Craterus123 EOTech
@@TheTorchredz06good ol expensive as eotech
I am relatively new to the sport and just can't bring myself to making the commitment to spend T2 money on an optic. I did, however, pick up a Duty RDS recently and I think I like my Holosun 403B just as well as the Duty RDS. My Duty RDS has significant bloom on higher settings which is annoying. Conversely, the Holosun does not bloom.
403b is honestly always a good option.
Swag lords will want to flex on you with Aimpoints & poors will say anything that isn't a $20 Amazon special is too expensive, but if you just ignore the nonsense, the 403b is still to this day a fantastic choice for most.
I have 2 favorites for carbines & such.
I go with EOTech or a 403b in the vast majority of cases.
@Jesse Robinson I really hope you aren't retarded enough to put Trijicon or Aimpoint on everything you own.
@Deak Deagen How do you like the Duty RDS? I’m very interested in it but can’t decide between it the Aimpoint PRO, Holosun AEMS or Romeo 4T. Everything besides aimpoint feels like I would be buying crap quality. What are your thoughts?
@@mr.adventure6507 Meh, its okay. As I said above, my Duty RDS has an awful bloom (bright outer red circle) when you turn up the intensity. My "lesser quality" red dots do not. I expected more from Aimpoint. I have two Aimpoint Pro red dots that don't bloom like the RDS does. Not sure what to make of that. If I had it do over with, I probably would have spent the RDS money on a Trijicon MRO. I have two MRO's that are probably my favorite red dots. The MRO's get a bad rap but mine are perfect for what I use them for.
I carried an M68 in Iraq. It could definitely take a beating and certainly got the job done. Nowadays, I prefer Holosun (yup, Chinese-made, but they're packing a lot of value). Sure, they're not as rugged as an Aimpoint, but frankly, who gives a shit? If things get bad enough to where I'll need a "combat" red dot, I'm sure I'll find plenty of them lying on the ground.
Anyway, Holosun dots are definitely more prone to the starburst effect...at least for me. However, I notice it less when shooting outdoors...or I just don't pay attention to it. Either way, I'm not into paying almost $1k for a red dot. If I were to buy an Aimpoint, I think the RDS has the best value-to-performance ratio.
All the "DoD contract" companies have been overzealous in the markup of their products and it's eventually going to hurt them in the long run. Holosun has already chewed up a good chunk of the market share. Look at the EPS - a red dot that's exactly what the market was asking for, almost half the price of "duty" brands, and actually provides more capability. Are the "DoD" brands going to copy it?Absolutely, but they'll be super expensive and won't offer much more for the inflated price tag. Trijicon, Aimpoint, etc should pay close attention and take the hint.
Paying Americans costs more, American materials cost more, but not supporting the CCP military R&D is priceless.
One thing that is good to mention also is that if you buy this second hand they wont warranty your product. You have to buy it new from an authorized dealer in order to get that. I spent $750 on mine with a larue mount and it sucks knowing I cant warranty it. But I also have one of the most durable optics and I dont think ill ever need to warranty it in case it fails in operation moms basement
You can warranty a product second hand for a fee which is generally acceptable they quote no more than 100$ to me on my rma sheet. I sent a 2nd hand comp m5 back
they wont warrantee it for FREE, which is what most higher end manufacturers do. Vortex and manufacturers like that can get away with it because they sell so many shitty optics that will never get used at such a high margin of profit that it offsets the one or two percent of optics that ACTUALLY get used and abused. Aimpoints, Eotechs, etc are marketed towards people who shoot a bit more.
Watching Hop run is almost as funny as watching Lucas run
Hop hops
He has no sense of urgency lol
I learn something new every time here. Today it was that 2032's are all lithium which comes with the benefits mentioned over alkaline. Hell ya. Also here because I finally learned what a bad idea it could be to keep an mro on your weapon
>start part time job @ LGS in 2016
>see T2 on shelf, decide to turn in on and leave it on to see if the battery life meme is real
>no one wants to buy because 700 🫘
>2023, they still have it
>it's on sale because old inventory
>it's still on, same battery and everything
Needless to say, but I also joined the T2 gang that day.
The T2 is also a very versatile optic. It can be run alone, with a magnifier, offset/piggy backed with a magnified optic, or even on a handgun with the right mount. Compared to a mailbox sight that’s pretty much only used with a magnifier.
I have my T2 piggy backed on an ACOG it works great.
I bought my first T2 in 2016. I haven't changed the battery once, and it has been on setting 8 or 9 for almost all of it. It will be seven years in May. I'm going to keep running it until it dies.
My biggest gripe with my T2 when I finally got one was the brightness settings. Can't really see much in bright daylight unless you have it cranked, even indoors with a flashlight on you need to have it near max.
I've read the new ones don't get as bright.
I have my T2(purchased in 2022) set to 10 for inside my apartment. White walls, and it has to overcome a Cloud 🦉
So basically 9 is what I can see, and up one to be sure. I’m sure that won’t yield me the 50,000 hours of battery life claimed, but I just change the batteries on my life support equipment every 6 months regardless.
Definitely agree with that. Just enough brightness on a very sunny day. But I feel totally comfortable parachuting out of airplane or scuba dive with this optics. Occasionally I would intentionally drop the optic from the 2nd floor just because it can withstand it like it's nothing.
I bought mine in 2021 and it get stupid bright
I disagree about the auto-off/shake-awake feature being irrelevant anymore. That's an amazing feature. And it doesn't matter how many hours of battery life red dots are advertised to have. Leaving them on saps the battery like crazy.
The battery on the only Holosun I own lasted for 5 years(mostly left on with the shake & wake), so much better than the Vortex Sparc(gen 1), which was the first red dot I bought. Own an Aimpoint PRO, you can tell the difference in quality through the dot alone, can also tell the difference in weight as well. Always wanted a T2, just wasn't in the budget in the past, hard to bring myself to shell out the cash these days, even if it's worth every penny(yeah, I'm stubborn).
Yeah, no thanks for $900. I listened to retired Navy SEAL Mark “Coch” Cochella and went with the Sig Romeo 5 for $119 on sale. If that dude is running it on his home defense set ups (he really likes the shake awake feature), good enough for me.
I found that the t2 gives me a crisper, rounder dot under a 6x magnifier than some of my cheaper dots
It damn well better for the cost.
Huh, I get the same thing from my diopter.
Reason for the scope cap design is so you can have the lenses protected from gathering dust, and still shoot occluded with them in place. But not a clear front so you dont leave them down and sacrifice clarity.
I do not know how to explain it, but I was very anti Aimpoint T2 with other offerings on the market from Holosun, Sig, etc. With that being said, I played with a T2 in store and immediately purchased one. It just feels like a higher quality product in hand, the glass is better, the dot looks better, and while I'm sure "on paper" it's minor upgrades (or even downgrades according to some), the real-world user experience with the product in hand is just better with the T2.
Anyone who's carried a rifle slung over their shoulder for a full day can attest - weight absolutely does matter. Adding on optics, cans, lights, loaded mags, lasers... ounces become pounds very quickly.
Mission failed successfully Hop
The only reason I have an Aimpoint was the H2 w/ Ruger 10/22 mount was on sale for $450 a few years back on their website. I mounted it on my AR and tossed the Ruger mount in the parts bin. Had I been faced with the full price tag I’d have gotten a holosun
I buy the comp m5. Only because it's usually in stock, and I hate waiting.
Listening for the subtle references and jokes sprinkled throughout is my favorite part.
I'd really like a setting 8.5 and 9.5 on the T2. So oddly spaced.
I've had three sparc solars fail (shake awake doesn't work on 2 and one turned off after 30 seconds and wouldn't turn back on until the battery was removed and reinstalled. the second shake awake failure was out of box on the warranty replacement for the first failure)
I doubt I will ever buy another red dot with electronics more complicated than "intensity switch goes click, don't bother turning it off because I'll be on for the next 50k hours whether you like it or not"
The title is always the inevitable conclusion
I got a T2 and got ride of it in a few months. I’ll stick with my EoTech. I did not like the brightness settings on the T2. They were very weird for indoor use. The setting I needed for it to sit on a HD rifle did not exist. When I set the brightness where it would not wash out with my flashlights and worked well in low light like inside the house during the day or in complete darkness it had this annoying extremely distracting red halo around the edges that messed with my night vision in the dark. The halo only went away if I was outside during the day time. If I turned it down 1 setting it washed out completely with my light and would be hard to see indoors during the day. What’s funny is my Primary Arms micro dot can be set brighter than the T2 and still not have that red halo effect until I turn it way up. It needed about 2-4 more brightness settings to give it a better range. It was too much brightness from 1 setting to the next. I think the H2 would probably be ok since it has more settings.
I'm actually pretty curious what you think about that new Sig Romeo 4XT. Specifically how the NV performance compares to the original 4T. I might hold out for a CR2032 version since their manual seems to indicate that's in the future, but I think it's only really worth it if the NV performance is better then the current 4T.
I saw a post on the Night vision subreddit showing a Remeo4t under NV that looked super clear. Supposedly sig has updated the lens coating on them. The 4h and 4s dont use the same blue tint but I haven't seen one tested under NV.
Yep I have one of the new ones. Just make use you get the dot version and not the plex version. Newer ones have a QR code on the side of the optic.
@@jpk9171jpk wait, so the circle dot 4t is the only one that got updated? That would explain why the circle plex is so much cheaper I guess. Too bad since it's such a cool reticle.
SOR44101 (Black) SOR44102 (FDE). Building now. Shipping next month. 👍.
@@TheMsdos25 I believe they are phasing the circle plex out. The other comment is right. The pro vision is coming out next month that will have the nv button.
Your apathy has sold me on this optic, and your video saved me a few hundo by pointing me to eurooptic! Thanks bud.
If you don't like it feel free to send it to me. I'm working-poor. In return I'll do a Bad-Combos video for a concoction of your choosing.
You're going to have to drink orange juice blended with toothpaste in the magic bullet.
@@Hoplopfheil you mean a breakfast shake? ezpz 😏
@@Hoplopfheil You underestimate what I'm willing to do to save a couple hundred bucks
@@Hoplopfheil I WILL actually do that. And send you the footage. You realize that, right? You can even pick the brand of toothpaste.
The T2 is the plain brunette that cooks and puts out twice a week without drama
The thing about the Apocalypse is that you need redundant systems. Having different dot sights ready to go that use different batteries is not a bad idea. Rechargeable AAA batteries new in the pack can be a back up that are ready to go in case all 2032 batteries are out of power 100k hours into the Boog. And honestly, you may get sick of the T2 and wanna get back with your Eotech that uses CR123 batts that can be recharged. I know Hop doesn't do rechargeables but if SHTF lasts more than a few years ya might be glad you got some. And, FYI... they do make 2032 rechargeable batteries too.
Should also consider that 2032s are in much more devices than people think. Car fobs, kitchen scales, CMOS batteries on almost all computers, etc. could be salvaged. You'll have plenty of time to find replacements in the years it will take for one to die.
@@alexandermartini28 I've bought many over the years and most are dead. They die quick. Better brands last longer but I'd give 'em all maybe 5 years til totally dead.
Still rocking my T1, don't have much of a reason to get a T2. Micro on my rifle and ACRO on my handgun. I have an EOTech, ACOG, magnified scopes, etc. Aimpoint red dots are my preferred.
I think Aimpoint is so slow in development because they want to make sure what they sell works, sometimes boring works
The steady stream of military/LE contracts probably doesn’t help either
@@zacharypennington1868 for the most part yeah, that’s why EOtech hasn’t innovated much either
Most features require complexity, complexity causes failure and usually weight. Boring is a feature.
@@docternoblex Cant really innovate the holographic technology. It's always going to have bad battery life, its always going to be bigger than regular red dots, etc. When you're working with many different lasers instead of one single laser projecting on glass, you sacrifice size and battery life. No way around it. Everything else is already about as good as it can get on an Eotech. Already has the best FOV and glass clarity on the market
@@mynameisjeff6988 EOTechs are still my favorite optics for most carbines.
The reason the front cap is not see through is to be able to keep it in the optimal useable/battery life standby setting in this case 8 yet still be able to make a quick occluded shot both eyes open in most any light especially bright light without a settings adjustment.
In an unexpected emergency you could lose valuable time aiming only to not be able to see your dot because it's washed out from too much light, you would have to just engage with no aiming point or brake hold to adjust brightness and re-engage.
@@CouchDoritos Just stating why the rear cap is clear and the front cap opaque, for optimal battery life while stored but usable ready at a sudden notice like in a trunk, rack or other storage area. battery life is about 5 years but only at setting 8 of 12, setting 9 or 10 is only about 1 year and above 9 or 10 battery life drops to months. I'm not saying to only use the optic that way like at the range or knowingly going into a possible/probable conflict but they are usable that way in most any light if you dont want to change the battery way more often.
Aimpoint states this optimal battery setting with all of their optics
PRO is 3 years on 7 of 10
COMPM4 is 8 years on 12 of 16
COMPM5 is 5 years on 7 of 10
Some optics with years of battery life on optimal setting will only last 30 to 50 days on max.
I love my T2, but I also love my Sig Romeo 5.
I see those see through flip caps like the stickers you put on the visor of a motorcycle helmet. Its like a quick clean system. Just rip the sticker off and the built up mud is gone. Flip the cover up and the mud is out of the way.
The only issue I have with my T2 is that indoors or in dark areas, if I want to turn up the dot bright enough to use when my weapon light is on, then I get a LOT of red vignetting around the outside ring inside the optic that's distracting. If I turn it down to not do that, it gets washed out if your too close to something when you turn on your weapon light. outside it's a non-issue, but something to consider. It seems that going from 8 to 9 on the dial makes a massive jump in brightness. Has anyone else had this issue?
That’s been my experience as well (on all things stated).
That’s supposedly why the front cap is black and rear cap is transparent. In that situation you would run your front cap up and use your weapon light without effecting the dot at all. If you shoot both eyes open you should see the dot still and your target. Give it a try!!
I have a T2 on my agency issued long-gun, it works great. But short of nvg compatability, it doesnt do anything better than the Holosuns on my hd rifles
It's easier to resist buying one when your one of the poors!
Looks like Hop’s wearing Grand Moff Tarkin’s uniform in the snow.
The front black cover is the best way to do it. At night you can turn your flashlight on and off without having the dot wash out. I blacked out with tape most of my front lens covers on my other reddots.
Ah, damn - very smart - thanks - hadn't thought of that!
"Finally breaks down and buys T2, T3 announced the next week."
The part near the end about alkaline batteries is not something I would consider common sense, I didn't know that they inevitably leak and fail.
Thank you for sharing that.
Why did Aimpoint change the top turret cap on the T2? At least the T1 had two useful caps. Just to be annoying?