See the Red Dot EVERY Time
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Sometimes I just completely forget John has cold blooded assassin skills and then get snapped back to reality. That shooting was insane.
He’s one accurate war criminal.
@@mohr4lesshow is he a war criminal?
You mean the warrior part of warrior poet?
Red dots don't fix bad habits. The best way to find the dot is to have good mechanics in the first place.
Correct
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@@WarriorPoetSociety mable run cause you didn't buy her dinner the other night before you squeezed her utters
As someone getting my first pistol with a red dot this weekend, this video came out at the right time. Thanks John!
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Started with irons, after getting my cheap Glock 19 style pistol with a red dot, out to 40 yards I can hit whatever I want.... Just after a year of practice
Congratulations! And you are going to love it, I know I do for mine.
I have thousands of rounds through other guns, this isn’t my first pistol. Just the first one I’m buying with a red dot. I’ll definitely do some practice with it both ways tho
@@ryanhamstra49 I don't really know why people say to get irons first. Red dot rocks, simplifies everything. Hit a few hundred presentations dry and you'll pick up your dot just fine
A Holosun 507c or 507k with the circle dot or acss reticle solves this problem. And they work great for those of us with astigmatism.
Holoson rds works great.
Good stuff John, however, after teaching LEO's for some 30 years to use "front sight, front sight, rear site", then red dots popped up and everyone was having problems "finding" their red dot. So, after much research, we found that instead of teaching "front sight", we now focus on "Target" rather than "front sight". This matters because it does not matter how you draw your weapon because your focus is on the "target" not the front sight. We found that most if not all students "found" their red dot without having to "search" for it. Just my .002 worth, oh and it might help you to not get yourself killed while trying to "find" the red dot.
I just realized this last month. I kept searching for my dot and struggled to do so. Once I focused on the target, the dot naturally appeared.
@@chucknorris5141 Yeah, it made a huge difference, life saving in my opinion.
It’s the brain doing what it was meant to do, similar how in baseball if you follow the ball with your eyes and swing, the bat will hit the ball without you having to look at the bat too because your brain knows how to bring them together.
Absolutely legit!
I discovered this during competition, if I focus on my target, my front sight appeared on target. Very fast sight aquisition. Surprised me how quick it happened.
ya when I was still in the Military and training units for deployment that is how I taught them. Keep your eye on target bring weapon in, you will see the sights when they are there ( lined up to target)
I always tell people to just sit and draw. I practiced drawing for weeks before I started carrying 1. I probably practiced my draw 2,000 times before I was able to get it to the point where I always saw the dot. You should be practicing that draw at the very least until you see that dot every single time you draw. So when people say they don't like it because they can't ever find the dot I laugh, because that just means they don't practice. It's not very hard to get to the point of seeing it every time. It just takes a tiny bit of patience, dedication and practice.
God bless
That "beep" killed me 😂😂
I never understood the training curve to red dots on pistols. When I got my first red dot, on dry fire, upon presentation, it was there every time. The only thing I had to make a conscious effort to change was focusing on the target instead of the sight, but that's already what I've been doing with optics on rifles for years. Literally little to no effort for an instant cheat code level upgrade.
Apparently you were already making a good draw. I was taught (many years ago) to draw the way he described Terrell drawing, which is an old revolver technique. Breaking myself of that will take time.
@@oklahomahank2378 Yeah, I've only been really serious about training and shooting for about five years, started following John about six years ago, and picked up almost all of my stuff from him the first handful of years before adding others to the mix, so I think that's likely it. I just got lucky coming across good info and trained good habits and HOPEFULLY minimized the bad habits, though I'm sure I have plenty of them. I think I just got lucky on the red dot situation.
@@TheBrigandBob That’s great. I was trained in revolvers as a young man, 1960s, and we were taught that “muzzle up quick” draw, which was an old police technique. My first semi training was the old Chapman Academy about 1998 or so? They had their hands full correcting my grip and stance, which were terrible. In the several classes since then I don’t think anyone has ever really discussed the second position. Maybe I should take a class from Warrior Poet. The way he describes that makes sense. I bought a red dot and am trying it.
I never was interested in RDS because everyone said what a learning curve there was to them. Then about 2 years ago I had the chance to try one and from the first draw the dot was there for me and I've never had a problem with them. I think the key to picking up on the dot is focusing on the target and not the sight.
Just tried this with my rig. Centerline thing, higher step two grip ... finding dot so much quicker. Mind blown!! Seriously.... Thanks!
Thanks and Blessings John. I'm working the new dot for old eyes!
Mabel is wise to John's shit.
Just bravo I found this the most efficient presentation not just for red dots but iron sights as well 👏👏👏
I am a LEO and have recently had to switch to red dot sights after many years of iron sights...and I hated it : ) This video explained things to me better then my own instructors. I will be heading to the range with what you said in mind. I am actually looking forward to it!
Good stuff John. This made me reevaluate my draw that I learned from you years ago, to make sure I wasn't getting too sloppy. I kinda was. Mostly because I've become fat, so I'm clearing a space at a different angle, but I'm still solid, just not solid enough. Exercise and diet incoming. Make sure you're real with yourself gentlemen.
100% BE REAL WITH YOURSELF.
Same!
1 step forward, 2 steps back. Keep your dots in a microwave in case of a EMP.
I'm an old grey beard.I have lost muscle mass so my problem is a bit different. Not the man I was 10 years ago and you just have to adjust ,adapt and overcome.
My man said, " you're fudgin that number 2".. I caught that terrible dad joke 😂😂
Front sight front sight front sight! Makes perfect sense with red dots or iron sights.
Very helpful video!
John personally helped me with my draw stroke during a pistol course in Tennessee and I've never looked back. It works if you're willing to put in the work. Yay for that!!!
Always enjoy a good instruction video from you John. Awesome teachings!
For civvies in self defense emergencies a red dot will rarely come into play.
I like that, you’re Dorking up your draw stroke. I used to tell my kids to stop Dorking around. Like minds here!
This short video did more for me in correcting my draw than any other class. Thank You John. Yes I called it a class as this is just what you will get when you train with Warrior Poet Society. Like he implied, more to be learned so power up and lets go.
What helped me the most was a revelation I had during dry-fire training. Don't look for the sight. Rather, know the sight will be there when you pull the gun up properly with both eyes open. Sounds simple but trust me, it can take a minute to break your mind from "seeking the sight," if that's what it wants to do naturally. So again, with good technique, it's easy to overcome.
Good observation. We normally say bring the sights up to the eyes. So find your target with your eyes and then bring the gun/sights to your eyes.
Exceptional points! I've had ALL these problems, and maybe invented more ways to NOT see my Red Dot! Then, I bought a Holosun HS507C-X2 Reflex Red Dot Sight, w/ it's ACSS Vulcan Reticle. A year later, I can use any Red Dot and just using this as a teaching tool, I'm on 98% of the time. So much happier!
Just got an RMR from T-Rex arms last week and this is exactly what I needed to know! Thanks John!
Good points John! I’m two years into transitioning my duty pistol over to RDS. Been a blast as I’ve learned. Practice practice practice is key, using timers and other methods to induce a level of stress so you can perform under fire. Too many officers have used poor transition training and they’ve found out that under stress they were unable to reach a level of needed combat proficiency. So don’t shortcut your transition and DO NOT call your transition “good” after a minimal one day transition course. You better get you, your RDS equipped pistol, and your kit out to the range in daylight and lowlight conditions and you better use stress-inducing techniques so you reach absolute combat proficiency. Smooth IS Fast…. Earn your speed… 💯
Outstanding explanation. I watched a lot of videos to get what John presented in a few minutes. Practice dry fire, gun level at 2nd step etc.
Way to go, MABEL! This is why we can't have nice things.
This video really helped me. I am finding the dot much faster now, thanks!
Good stuff John. I teach MRDS transition classes for my agency. I’d add one for the “fisherman” shooters is to engage the pinkies. Most of them have the opposite issue of the bowlers and their front sight is too high; squeeze the pinkies and it will come right back. Well said about not short cutting the learning process; it becomes a slightly different body position for those that have been shooting for a long time. 👍
This was really well-timed! I've been frustrated with finding my War Poet's red dot. I think this will help, going to put in some reps! Thank you John!
I can assure you that John's technique will help a lot! Just add practice!!! ;
Whoever is beeping is great. 😂
Makes perfect sense…definitely was having trouble and was about to remove it…thank you…
As always great content. Something else that helped me was USPSA shooter Scott Jedlinski's modern samurai project. It's a very similar technique to what John is suggesting here but perhaps a little more accentuated in the initial pointing up with the pistol to find the dot (the dot always naturally falls down from 12 o'clock to the center as you draw). John's way is essentially identical with a little bit of nuanced difference, find what works for you!
Also loving the agency arms 417 comp. I just bought one and am super excited to play around with it.
Scott may be changing his methodology soon, a video of him with Point 1 Tactics and some other skilled pistol shooters came out where he was finally sold on the idea of a more efficient draw that looks more like a straight line rather than the arcing motion that he's been teaching. Everybody is working to improve, even at the highest levels!
@@EriktheDev Dang please share if you have the link handy! I agree, we're all on a lifelong journey of learning and should never assume we know the best way to do something.
I have made two good faith efforts with red dots and abandoned them both times. Your first scenario of where the number two position is slightly canted and offset to the right is me. That was the number two position when I learned it 25 years ago. That was what we were taught. I don't know how many repetitions it would take to fix that now but at least it's something I can try.
Daily dryfire
Thousands would be a good start.
@@joenunya8449 yes it will definitely take thousands of reps to reprogram thousands of reps.
I’m old school, I’m absolutely against red dots on a defensive pistol, give me steel every time. Steel sights pretty much stay in place, I know where they are at, don’t need to plug steel in, turn it on nor warm it up. It never runs out of power.
Disclaimer: I tried red dots for three years, no go for me. Save them for pop cans.
Great video, as always. Another option that has worked very well for me is the colab between Holosun and Primary Arms…the ACSS reticle version of their 507c. It has a chevron reticle with a 1 MOA tip of the chevron and a large outer ring that you won’t see if the pistol is presented properly, but if you’re off, that outer ring will quickly let you know you’re off and will guide you to your chevron reticle.
I Want One Of Those! Is It Super Cool?
@@Dunecoone I have two of them. I’d suggest trying to look at a Holosun optic in person and see which color works better for your eyes, green or red. I ordered the green before seeing it, as so many people said it worked better for them, but for my eyes, the red works much better and is clearer. I’ve had LASIK and I’ve heard that may cause some slight astigmatism, but for me the red was better. So that’s my only warning. They’re great optics and very intuitive. You don’t have to think about it at all…it’s very natural.
@@dknollRX7 The concept is simple, awesome idea. Yeah, I picked up a SIG green dot before. I like it because it's green but red works better for me as well. Thanks for the heads up.
@@Dunecoone you’re welcome. I know you have to get them via Primary Arms. As far as I know, they come in the full size 507c and the closed emitter version, the 509c.
@@dknollRX7 PA is my Jam. I have an astigmatism as well. I've learned to use red dots, just needed to practice with each one so I can gauge where the 🎯 is Lol. but I just got my first etched reticle from PA 🤯
Thx again GOD bless
Almost 6 AM and I’ve learned at least four things I plan to put into practice from this 8-minute video. I also MIGHT even put my red dot back onto my P226 😁
Just bought one for mine. Waiting on screws!
All that jazz 😎
Best ad I've seen on RUclips 😂
Thanks for the info, John. I had a bit of trouble with this at one of Paul and Josh's pistol 2 classes here in Arizona, back in February. They were both helpful in getting me on track with it.
I already gave up on my red dot sight, but I will try this and see if it works for me.
Great session, easy to follow logic!
My brother just put an rmr on his 19 and he’s not happy about not seeing the dot. I’m going to send him this video. Thanks, John.
Had this issue first but just like he said practice. One thing he doesn’t mention that helped me a ton was keeping both eyes open when aiming
Holosun 509c vulcan acss for larger pistols, and 507k vulcan acss for smaller pistols. They come in either green or red. They also have a side loading battery, so no need to remove the site to change batteries. And, no rezeroing after battery change. I would argue the best dots for shooters new to dots.
Not a lot of people talk about this stuff but it's such crucial information for new shooters
Old shooters too.
After messing with pistol mounted dots, I'd say the best and most simple advice was "look for the front sight. " don't look for the dot, but look for the front sight. And it almost literally clicked for me. And significantly improved my dot acquisition.
Me watching this video despite carrying a pistol that doesn't even have an optics cut on it.
The war poet giveaway I want is the full class suite with John and his battle gnome
Thanks john. This is so necessary. Very Zen.
Holy craaap I was correcting with more mistakes almost threw red dot in the river!!! Thanx John I'll try it again...
Thankyou, perfect timing too.
Content just keeps getting better and better. Thank you John, love you brother.
Thanks John, great video
"You gotta earn the speed."
- Eleanor Roosevelt
Great advice thank you
This is good. Thnx John
good explanation, very informative
Two words…..
Primary Arms ACSS Vulcan reticle.
… Ok, ok, so that’s more than two words.
Great Information!! Thanks
Solid. Thank you.
One thing I'd add that you're doing but didn't touch on; during deliberate practice make sure you're only moving the Arms and the gun to your eyeline. Instead of moving your head and eyes to the gun. Once I started focusing on keeping my head as still as possible I found that I wasn't chasing the dot, and my times went down by .1 or .2 on the timer. I was unaware until my guru started filming my head dropping ever so slightly at the end of my draw stroke. Having a buddy film you is a good way to identify the small nuances that push you past a performance cap. Thanks for being a positive voice in the community sir.
Looking vascular today, Johnny!
Great tips John thx.
Damn John.. You’re good! 🐺❤️
Precious experience.
Thanks for sharing!
Outstanding
AWESOME words of wisdom my guy! Thanks for breaking this down in a manner that was easy to digest!
Really great advice.
Great info. Thx John.
Hey Jon enjoyed helping you chase a bull around 😂. Need something don’t hesitate.
This gave me some of the guidance that I've needed in this area. Thank you!!!
Super helpful. Thank you so much!
That was super helpful! Thx John!
Such cat like reflexes. I will name him Mr. Whiskers.
Excellent explanation and presentation
I bet a million dollars to a cheese burger that Tyrell was black 😂
As they say in racing- "Slow is smooth, and smooth is fast."
Solid teaching there that was great
Thanks John
I appreciate the insight.
Thank you John. Fantastic info that I desperately needed.
Thanks John always love the tips
Thanks, great tips, appreciate the help. Little things, little things ,little things!!!
I died laughing at the “beep”
Thank you John. You’re awesome!
Great advise.
Good stuff, as usual, thanks for sharing. God bless you and yours, Sir
This was the best video I’ve watched to diagnose my sight picture
I like Mabel. Lol god bless you and yours John.
Really appreciate this video!
Just bought my first dot, really helped with my trigger pull watching the dot move if I jerked is much easier than iron sights
Thanks John! 😎👍
This is good stuff sir. Thank you
Great pro tips. Thank you brother.
Dude sounds like he really knows what he’s talking about. A+ 👍🏼
Good stuff. Thanks for posting this training
Great Information, well presented. Definitely something for me to work on. Much appreciated.
Yes! Back to gun stuff! I love it Warrior Poet Society!!!!!
Thank you for the tips!
Indoor range shooting helped me improve my draw stroke because they have the tables so it forces you to merry up support side hand in the number 2 position instead of the “kiss of death”