Stealing Buddha - The Buddhist Expansion - World History - Part 4 - Extra History
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The Great Ashoka changed the model for future monarchs. The righteous King's reign would show how power should be wielded to create a Buddhist society and future kings would even invite monks to be a part of their courts. Buddhism expanded across the world along with The Emerald Buddha and change with the cultures it reached.
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Please do a burmese one in pagan impire
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The space balls reference has been noticed and enjoyed.
If anyone wondering where Emerald Buddha is now. The statue is located in Wat Phra Kaew in Bangkok. (Fun tidbit: The Thai general mentioned in this video who stole the statue eventually became the first king of the current Chakri dynasty)
I was about to make a joke about now ofc it is a valuable pice in a brittish museum xD
@@SweKingdom Because glorius Siam was never colonized!!! 🇹🇭 🇹🇭 🇹🇭 (Actually, The Brit prefered Siam as a buffer state against French indochina)
@@warotm.590 the very concept of "buffer state" was in fact a Thai construct and not the concept with major traction in the British and French governments at the time, especially with factions like the parti colonial involved in the inner circle.
British Prime Minister Rosebery even wrote that they almost had a 'European war' with France over Siam during the Paknam Crisis (rather than over some fool things in the Balkans). Partition plan was even on the table to prevent that.
It was only after the diplomatic maneuvers by Prince Devawongse and Rolin-Jaequemyns that they secure Thai independence guarantee as a buffer.
@@nikujaga_oishii I do remember that siamese diplomats do push for Siam as a buffer state but i never heard that the English really want the country itself. Can you give me a source on what Rosebery write? Thanks
The alternate name for Siam was also the Rattanakosin Kingdom, which translates to "the place that protected the Emerald Buddha"
As a Mahayana Buddhists, I would like to take a moment to condem Myanmar's government for the genocide against Rohingya Muslims, and condem anyone who pollutes the Buddha's teachings with violence, hatred, prejudice, or oppression.
Also said military staged a coup just 2 years ago and apply that techniques to civilians.
Buddhists and Christians included, latter being hill tribes (Chin, Karen, Karenni, and Kachin with Shan being predominantly Buddhist) that were persecuted since 1960’s.
Oh, they even have support from influential monks as well.
The Rohingya committed terror attacks and attacked non Muslims first. They were not even from the area but imported there by the British during the war and are basically like Bangladeshi Muslims but they didn't even behave their. Many are Islamists that hate all "pagan" religions including Buddhism.
Yeah you do it then turn your eyes when people ask for help to topple the evil Junta.
You do you.
The myanmar junta is not buddhist.
May be Mahayana buddhism is for community practise. But, Theravada buddhism is for individual practise. When a leader or an army of a country do something wrong, that is not a problem of all the buddhists in that country. Each and everyone has a unique capacity with their deciplines (Seela). Also, that non- violence always not works, especially when it comes to politics.
Fun fact, in the game Europa Universalis 4, you can capture the Emerald Buddha if you siege the province it’s in.
Also if you play HOI4, Siam can form Rattanakosin, which literally translates to "the place which protects the Emerald Buddha"
@@Nolaris3Rattanakosin Kingdom is the official name of Siam before 1932 people's party revolution.
Yeah, in my Korea game I actually did this and brought the Buddha all the way from Burma (which was ruled by Shan) back to Hanseong, where it remained until the end of the game.
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Same, except the Emerald Buddha was in Hanoi when I took it.
New UK game idea, lol.
Im buddhist and it's nice to see Extra History cover the History of my religion.
would you consider these episodes accurate? at least in a broad sense?
Do you find the assessment fair or no?
Where are you from?
I'm Buddhist and I don't consider myself religious. That's the thing with the dharma, people can take what they need from it to lead a happier life.
@@roykennedy of course it is not accurate.
It's very interesting how Buddhism shaped from place to place, in Laos for example, where I used to live for 8 years, they took on many animist traditions that were already common in Laos, which allowed for a pretty quick adoption, heck they even made their own tales of past lives of the Buddha which are riddled with local religious beliefs.
They talk about this more in episode 5
@@teogonzalez7957 Which I don't have access to :P
Yeah, there's actually a doctrine in Buddhism which is that if a teaching or practice doesn't conflict with the Buddha's teaching, it's fine. This means that we actually consider figures, like Jesus, to be Bodhisattvas. It also means the exact same Buddhist school can look very different in different parts of the world. In Japan, for example, people often sit on their knees, but because that is something we're not used to in America, we (the Buddhists I practice with in America) usually sit in chairs. We also don't have a holy day of the week, but because most people go to church on Sunday, we tend to have meetings on Sunday because it fits with most people's schedules.
One part of the story about Buddha that I've studied in the school. Before He go to Nirvana (aka death). He said that please adapt his teaching if we feel right. This is actually why the Buddhism split into 2 school, the one that adapt to their culture and society at the time (Mahayana) and the one that also adapted but also try keep as strictly as possible (the one in the video) The core of Buddhism itself that about self-improvement and go in middle ground also help the adapt it into other culture.
These intros are genuinely amazing, great job y’all! Watching this series with a Buddhist friend of mine rn.
We don't deserve such good animation for a history channel!
I'm seeing you everywhere man, it's a little bit concerning how much our interests overlap. 😂
My professor once told me: a successful religion is a religion that could assimilate well into another culture (when she taught us about pre-Dutch colonialism Islam in Indonesia and further emphasized it when she talked about unique architecture of Hindu-Buddha architecture found mostly in Java island and first catechism in Java). Hindu and Buddha may not be the majority in Indonesia, but surely they left a lasting impression in Indonesia history, architecture and culture.
I find it very funny that of Superpowers and "being allowed to sit in the throne of the forbidden city", it was the second one that was less believable lol
I am from the city of Kushinagar, Uttar Pradesh, India, the place where Buddha achieved Nirvana, it has a massive temples here from all countries where Buddhism is practiced, and now the gov is actually working to make the place a global tourism destination
I first heard about the Emerald Buddha from EU4.
Naturally I stole it and nobody ever stole it from me.
This video actually gave me context why it's in EU4. Never looked it up before.
bodhisatva are not "waiting to be enlightened" they are enlightened ones who choose to stay and help others find enlightenment.
that's the Mahayana interpretation, yes. but in Theravada tradition bodhisattva are future Buddhas, working towards eventual enlightenment.
As the Extra credits team said there are always asterisks (*) to everything in Buddhism.
Even in Mahayana Bodhisttvas are frequently considered not completely enlightened because they are not buddhas and it is buddhahood that is often considered the true enlightenment.
Also since there is more than one asterisk to everything in Buddhism according to Tathagathagarbha/Buddha Nature doctrine in Mahayana every being is already enlightened from times immemorial and the act of enlightenment is merely the realization of that already possessed enlightenment. According to Dogen Zenji, fabled monk who brought Caodong Chan from China as Soto Zen in Japan even though everybody is already enlightened for countless kalpas practice is still important because practice is enlightenment.
I’m very glad that you are going into detail on how the messages of great leaders can get changed over the years.
If history classes just played this channel we'd have a lot more history majors!
In Myanmar, the government has also been persecuting Christians since the 1940s, which had led Christian majority tribes like the Kachin and Karen to have been in a state of rebellion for most of that time.
"His body is as strong as steel and cannot be cut, he is cool even when it is hot,-"
"Sure, sounds legit."
"The Chinese authority let him-"
"😂😂😂! I am sorry, keep going."
"-sit on the throne of the forbiddin city."
"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣"
As a Mahayana Buddhist (specifically Nichiren Buddhist) I'm looking forward to the next episode.
I’ve seen the emerald Buddha in Bangkok, it’s beautiful. You aren’t allowed to take a picture of it inside the actual temple. The temple that it’s housed in its floor to ceiling incredible art. Funny enough if you are Thai you can go in for free, so my wife got in for free. Being a farang (foreigner) I had to pay 500 baht (about $17). Totally worth it. The same temple has a mural that’s probably a kilometer long of the story of wukong.
The mural tells the Ramakien, the Thai version of Ramayana. I was involved with an animated film version called "Ramavatar: Murals Brought To Life" which used very high definition photographs of the temple murals to create the characters and backgrounds. You are allowed to enter the temple for free on New Year's Day. I hadn't been there for five years, the last time was when I took a Burmese friend who really wanted to see it, and so went back again on New Year's Day this year, as well as The City Pillar Shrine, and Loha Prasat; not quite the full 7 temples, as one should. The admission ticket to Wat Phra Kaew and The Grand Palace also gives you access to The National Museum, the former Front Palace, which they recently renovated and is much improved. Admission to the museum is also free for everyone during the anniversary celebrations of the founding of Rathanakosin which includes evening performances and food and goods sold on the grounds and at the adjoining National Theatre all day long.
Ha, I'll be sharing that fact every time I hear someone whining about the 10€ ticket for the Parthenon.
Funny how Tai use the same word for foreigners that is used all across the East. Farang means Frank i.e. crusader form France, Westerner
@@ognjenpetrovic5843 Yes, it was derived from The Persians who were already established in Ayutthaya when The Portuguese arrived in 1500. Thai language has absorbed words from different languages in a similar way that English has. Just yesterday I was wondering if the Thai word for "jeans" which is pronounced "yeen" might have come from Dutch as denim was originally worn by sailors and in Dutch the J is pronounced as a Y in English.
@@WaterShowsProd great, thanks for information
Did you know in Sri Lanka, They have the festival of the Tooth or Esala Perahera in Kandy . They dress up elephants that carry a tooth of the Buddha and its really cool !. And as a Sri Lankan , thank you for talking about my home country 😊
0:54 so prince Zuko finally captured the avatar (of buddha) here, then lost it.
I'm so excited that you guys are doing these videos still
Amazing video as always guys! Please consider covering the wars of the roses in the future!😊😊😊😊❤😊❤❤❤❤
Thank you so much for covering Thai history. Would love to see more!
5:15 That reminds me. According to the RUclips Channel: Hello Future Me, Christianity didn’t just simply dominate or eliminate pagan religions, they assimilated them. Instead of telling people that their gods didn’t exist and they had to convert, they said: Your gods are real, they’re just not quite gods. This is exemplified by Saint Brigid of Ireland, who is the Christian version of the Irish Celtic goddess Brig. The same held true to Spirits and mythological folk hero’s, turning them into Angels and Saints. This helped people retain their cultural identity and value system while being Christian.
pretty much every religion had to borrow from what came before it where it was conceptualized or it spread to, as for christianity you have to look no further than Christmas day being 25 of December, a day that held religious symbolism in a few noteworthy religions that predated christianity in the roman empire like mythraism and the cult of sol invictus. For a more localized example look at dia de los muertos in mexico(the only one i know that's celebrated in a single country as ones like halloween are a thing for the whole of catholicism with varying degrees of importance to be sure)
I wouldn't say they adopted their gods as much as replaced them. They insist the saints were real people and angels.
I saw the emerald buddha last month. It was amazing.
Pleaassse mention the Indo-Greek Kingdom and Menander I Soter, one of the first greek converts to buddhism! The greco-indians there too were some of the first to make physical representations of the buddha
I remember watching the Joan of Arc video and I really enjoyed it. I appreciate all of your hard work and I can't wait for the next video.
Thank you for the video.
This series is fantastic. You've already done same to Early Christianity.
I hope one day you do a series on Voodoo or Orisa worship.
Given its history, you'd think people would decide that the emerald statue maybe wasn't a lucky thing to own 😅
Speaking of 5:00 we had Nat worship that melded with Buddhism.
To put an interesting spin, two of the Nats were warrior-sons of Popa Lady and an Indian Muslim (at least based on forbidding pork as offerings) who were deified like saints or Roman Emperors.
And seeing 8:08- yeah, that feels ironic. Even some justify with “actualleh, the Rohingya came during colonial era”.
Also you could add Hill tribes (Kachin, Chin, Karen, and Karreni) on grounds of them practicing Christianity as well.
When a friend of mine from Myanmar came to Bangkok he told me he was surprised to see Hindu and Chinese deities included in Buddhist temples and shrines. He said that in Myanmar if a temple is Buddhist you will only find The Buddha. However, when I went to Yangon I saw the presence of Nats, particularly at Shwedagon where we conducted a service before beginning production on a movie and prayed not only to the central pagoda, but to The Nats as well. But I suppose because he'd grown up with it he didn't see that as being an add-mixture, but when seeing other spiritual forms alongside The Buddha in Thailand it stuck out to him. It was very interesting. By the way, when I'd first been to The Temple of The Emerald Buddha in Bangkok I thought I'd stepped into a dreamworld. Entering Shwedagon was a similar experience. It's hard for me to say which of the two is more beautiful and extraordinary.
@@WaterShowsProdIt's a fascinating thing, the extent to which Buddhism within the S/E Asian mainland is diversified. To me, having grown up in Bangkok it was always normal to have Chinese and Hindu figures and myth included. It wasn't something I gave much thought about. Ma Guanyin was a figure my mother gave special attention to, and the imagery of the Ramayana was regularly incorporated into temple decoration. There was nothing unusual with the idea of ogres/demons like the Yaksha as temple guardians. And all this within the space of Thailand alone, then you can shift focus a few hundred miles to the neighbours and find something both wildly different yet familiar.
As well-travelled as I am, I don't think I ever got as much of a culture shock as when I looked at neighboring Buddhist ideas and practices.
@@KimKarniol Yes, that is interesting. I live in Huai Khwang and we have a shrine with Ganesh, Rahu, and Trimurati, with other figures inside, which Buddhists visit all the time, and near there is a religious shop and fortune teller with Kaili in the window. Then just a short walk from there is the local Buddhist temple which also includes Rahu and Nang Takien. Even a friend of mine who is Muslim would go and wai Ganesh. เค้าว่าเป็นชาวอิสลามแอบพุทธ 555
@@WaterShowsProd To be honest, my family never dabble into them (mostly we stuck with Chinese ancestor worship and generally associated with "rustic"). The closest we got was Thagya Min, but that one was too entrenched in Burmese culture (either Thingyan festival, or cultural icon in terms of storm and weather related).
I literally just watched Space Balls for the first time yesterday so I was happy to see the reference 😂
love how enlightening these videos are to the shape shifting nature of this religion!
Great series so far! Did you cover Shinto?
Hystory is amazing.
*History
Brilliant video. We know it take lot of time and hard work to make these videos. Love from Sri Lanka 🇱🇰🤝🏴.
This is really interesting
My family is from Sri Lanka and practice Theravada Buddhism. I was amazingly surprised when you started this series.
It's also interesting to hear some of the myths and stories from other schools of Buddhism.
Very cool
So next topic is mahayana Buddhism which is topic I'm looking forward to.
nice video
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Wet interesting.thank you
I didn't see the Emerald Buddha, but I remember seeing a statue of the Jade Buddha as a kid when it was on an international tour.
Buddhism is not a religion. It's a practice.
Extra History since you did The Buddha can you please do The Yamashita Treasure and Filipino Revolution next please
PANR has tuned in.
Can you please do a series on the hanseatic league?
4:06
rebirth, not reincarnation
a deceptively small difference but is actually one of the main tenets of buddhism that separated it from its many contemporary schools of thought in india
Hang on, Rob had a holiday in Cambodia!?
I thought that was the Dead Kennedys?
This EH episode was sponsored by Guitar Hero 3!
Finally an episode that kinda mentions thailand, if only yall did an episode on thailand
I’m curious if the woman who told Rob all that stuff about the king of Cambodia actually believed all that stuff or if it was just to impress the tourists
Buddhism is cool they're chill and i like it
I can see the appeal
So, did you like, fall asleep during 7:54 - 8:24 of this very video, or...?
When you been doing history videos for 11 years, you tend to bump in to your previous work... Cause if there is one thing history does well is crossover!
i love that bit about the current king and sitting on the throne which did not happen lol
Its incredible how a messiah can be a conqueror (Muhammad) a philosopher (Buddah) or a hippie (Jesus), and yet people will allways find a way to be kind or evil in their names. Good or bad, its not on God(s), is on us
A good DM doesn't want to kill the party or be the antagonist whatsoever, they're there to tell a story and have the chips lay where they are
Still praying for a King Naresuan/Ayutthaya EC series 🙏
Glad that Thai history is finally getting some attention outside of Thailand :p
Cool
Namo Buddhaya
cool
1:10 its NOT in the british museum?
The "Buddism" typo from the last title has spread to this title and even the thumbnail!
Ini Indonesia, the syncretic religion of hinduism and buddhis was called Syiwa-Buddha, hindu ini Indonesia before islam were largely Shaivism, and hindu Bali nowadays are derived from this unique blend of hinduism
The thumbnail has a typo
What a fascinating series! Great work guys! ❤
E i feel so excited honestly when i see thai have role in your series and uhhh well after you finish this series can you make about History of thai history and Political if more acurately you make about Khanaratsadon The Thai Revolutionary Movement that change history of thai from Absolute monarchy to Constituional Monarchy today due well many reason first actually story during this time didn't have knowledge much in history book in school [Despite I already know much about them but I wanna make this side story more know] except you have to find around in library or etc second history of itself it very interesting I guarantee and honestly
also ehh sorry if you found some crappy grammar bc i really bad at gammar
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@@WaterShowsProd ลองหน่อยอาจจะไม่สนใจก็ได้น่ะ
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Next time, make about Empires of Bagan, Toungoo, and Kombaung of Burma, please....
0:40 a stubborn elephant is par for the course.😁
@robertrath the Emerald Budda is in Trazin's vault atm...... Right?
Please do a burmese one the bayin noung.
6:35 Please do Gung-Ye, he literally is the Buddhist fanatic God-King!
I can’t believe they haven’t talked about the Greco Buddhists, who are were very important in developing Buddhism not only are they the ones who made Buddha an icon but they also made Hercules Buddha’s bodyguard and the patriot saint of the Shaolin temple
Facts people do not know that the Greco-Roman made the first human buddha
@@allenvoltage7445 odd compass did a video ancient India, Greco Roman world relations, and they do talk about Greco Buddhist art, which is believed to be the first human depiction of the Buddha
@@ajerjavec4723thank you for letting me know
genius! You also reference Thailand!
wow
To drive home the Buddhism-Hinduism syncretist point: The BAPS Shri Swaminarayan temple in Chino Hills, CA, whose exterior is FESTOONED with Hindu icons, bears several of the Buddha.
The story of Buddhism won't end until the last video mentions Dr Ambedkar and his revival of Buddhism with his own version in India. It's a unique case.
An interesting case for sure. Dude rejected the main tenets of buddhism like renunciation, meditation, samsara, karma(especially karma, dalits didn't like that), rebirth, and even going as far as the four noble truths. Ambedkar reinvents the buddha's renunciation and turns him into this quasi-social reformer/politician rather than the spiritual leader he was.
Do jason and the argounauts. Or jason's quest for the golden fleece whatever you call it
Man they’ve been playing the biggest game of Keep Away with the Emerald Buddha.
Please do the Greek war of independence of 1821 against the ottoman empire next
I've been asking for this since the first episodes of the sengoku Jidai
Brb gotta go get me a neat statue.
Gosh, I felt so much catharsis upon hearing how Buddhism fought against muslamic spread.
Is Buddhism what's used in anime when an MC becomes resolute before battle? Because, I'd luv to be like that!
Bruh I went to Chang rai like 23 days ago and saw a lot of temples AND WAS IN CHIANG MAI TOO
That statue is estimated to be worth 2 billion dollars!
What about the info Greek bactrian state which was also some what Buddhist
7:24 as a Cambodian I have never heard that
Buddhism and Christianity have strikingly similar histories like with the teachings of Buddha and Christ being written down later.
In the 00s people around the world were struck with impulsive anti-Islamic sentiment.
We know fairly clearly this is due not only to 9/11 and not only to the lead up years but also because large crowds of popular opinion sometimes are rash and do not distinguish true enemy from ally or neutral with appropriate discretion.
It became very problematic and complicated to sort out and continues to this day. It would not be misplaced to do a video on Afghanistan clearing up as much as can be cleared up.
I think people's hearts are in the right place already, but that is not enough to pierce confusion to find wise strategy that succeeds at peace.
The entire strategy of terrorism is largely to foment distrust chaos confusion and we certainly are burdened with these problems.
If we genuinely sincerely internally accept that we have allowed confusion to deceive us, we should slow down to retrace our steps and uncover where were we tricked into fighting amongst ourselves?
The Middle-East and Indo-China were getting along with the West very tensely where the common opponent was the USSR. Eventually that dynamic changed and status quo between thinly upheld cooperation collapsed.
This is simply not the fault of religion. This is more the result of very modern economic and political jockeying. I am atheist and yet I notice that.....corporations seem to affect these issues of peace the most, because any place can be made unrestful if the most wealthy choose for it to be unrestful. It is unfortunately money distribution that's been the problem most recently.
Interesting topics but hard to cover accurately and sensitively. The post 9/11 world has been quite stressful for everyone and nothing feels the same at all anymore.
The spread and adaption of Buddhism remains me of the spread and adaptation of Christianity. It first went from oral to written down, then copied, then translated, and translated, and translated, and then reinterpreted and translated.....Until it split into many denominations.
My personal favorite fact is that my favorite king was an American who, I am told, was unable to read or write Thai
Honestly, I'm surprised the British didn't grab the Buddha.
That's because Thailand was never colonised by any European countries or anyone for that matter.
@@mtf_savage_beasts2565 good on Thailand.
@@adamblakeslee5301Almost like we should do a series on that like with Ethiopia
Had Chaophraya Chakri not brought The Emerald Buddha from Vientiane to Thonburi in 1779, during the Reign of King Taksin The Great, it would certainly have fallen into the hands of The French in 1893. Had The Burmese captured it from Luang Prubang in 1564, then The British would have taken it in 1824.
@@WaterShowsProd Yep Buddha blessed Thailand and that's why Thailand was never colonised maybe that emerald statue does have divine powers, although I hope that someday It returns back to India.
When he said someone capture it again i instanly thought “is it goddamn English again?”
What you need is a holiday in barovia
Can you guys do The Filipino Revolution and The Filipino-American War next?
1:09
*payday music starts*
The Cambodian tour guide gave me second hand embarrassment. We really need better training for tour guides.
7:19 King Norodom Sihamoni？
Buddhism was first imported to Mon state before Burmese and Thai people imported over. Money no longer have their own state now but their culture was absorbed by Thai and Burmese, which makes it seem like they have a shared culture.