Joan of Arc - The Mad King - Part 1 - Extra History
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- 📜 Joan of Arc: The Mad King - Before we can really get into Joan of Arc's life, we have to get a bit into the civil war between the Burgundians and the Armagnacs. Time for some royal family drama with King Charles VI's madness and Queen Isabeau's friend Louis.
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Put tiny defense in your videos
Why don't you make videos on indian or Chinese history...Pretty interesting
Remember that time when you got 70k dislikes that was great
Can you do a series about the war of roses?
Random facts: Serena Butler from the Dune books was inspired by Joan of Ark. Purge all thinking Machines!! Raise the flag of the Butlerian Jihad! Rawr xD
"In a small village a girl named Joan began to speak with saints."
*AGE OF EMPIRES 2 MENU THEME INTENSIFIES*
I loved her in the ds version of ages, only reason I played france was because joan was so hard to stop.
memories
La Hire wants to know your location
Bon chance Joan!
CALL OF DUTY MORDEN WORFARE 1 S.A.S THEME INTENCEFIES
The worst is that Charles VI's reign began very well. He was popular, the kingdom was getting back on his feet thanks to spanish and italian trade, his father's policy had forced the english to withdraw and he even won a great victory at Roosebeke against the flemish. And then he was struck down from inside.
Thanks for talking more in-depth about this, most people just say "he get mad, yo" and leave it at that.
Huh. Sounds really similar to Mad King Aerys from ASoIaF/GoT.
TheFiresloth at *Westrozebeke he won but he was still a child so the Burgundian Duke (Filips the bad, the one before jean withouth fear) placed him in the back. I believe Filips the bad is really underestimated in the 100 years war as he was technically( as in being the regent of the king) the ruler of France for a long time
@@MrOK-yb3rw The duke was Philip the "bold", not "the bad". You might be falsely translating from Dutch, where he is called "de Stoute", which these days is bad/naughty (most for little kids), but in medieval times meant "brave/fearless/..." And I think your name for his successor is also literally taken from Dutch: Jan Zonder Vrees -> "Jean without fear", but he is normally called John the Fearless in English.
@@thubtumbing4 Sounds similar to English "Stout" meaning brawny/dependable. Gotta love that islands bastardization of Germanic and Romance languages. :D
Michael W you’re right, I was a bit to lazy to look up the names😅
France:Divides herself into two factions.
England:This is getting out of hand!Now there are two of them!
King Henry V: "Everything is going according to keikaku!"
*Translator note: keikaku means plan*
You are strong and wise and i am proud of you
Heck, France was in pieces (politically because of the communists) by the time WW2 started and it was the Radical Party that was in charge of all things.
@@troyjardine5850 Good... good 😠
@@Edax_Royeaux ahhh but that wasnt the reason they lost. They made gamble and lost
"Yeah there were like three popes running around". You guys should make a series about that predicament. It is quite hilarious what happened there
Pope Fight!!
@@gregkaatz5965 OSP REFERENCE!!!! was I right?
France: *divides itself*
England: "I see this as an absolute win!"
Joan of Arc: *Im gonna stop you right there*
It's a time honored tactic, really.
Works great in Crusader Kings btw.
"it's free real estate"
420 likes nice
Divide and conquer
“Don’t ask, there were like 3 popes running around.”
Are you ready for tonight’s *POPE FIGHT?!*
*airhorns in the background*
Eyyy blue
Gotta love OSP😂💖
FIGHTO!
i was literally just watching that series
Looking at this and your previous series, I can't stop asking myself: how the hell did the French end up winning?
JohnnyElRed I know
It was walpole
(Edit: holy crap were did all these likes come from)
We had a solid noble class with strong military knowledge passed down through generations.
JohnnyElRed, A bit of the English’s luck running low and the French’s coming back... mostly.
Spoilers
I'm kinda surprised they didn't mention the infamous Ball of the Burning Men. Basically, in 1393, Queen Isabeau held a masquerade ball to celebrate the third marriage of her maid of honor.
Charles and some of his associates decided to make light of this by dressing up as wild men. But then Louis lifted a small torch to try and find out which one was the king, sparks flew, and soon all the men were on fire…literally.
Understandably, Isabeau fainted. But Charles's life was saved by his aunt, the Duchess of Berry, who threw the train of her dress around him and pulled him aside from the chaos.
To add even more dark humor, one of the men jumped into a vat of wine. But I think he died along with the others. Needless to say, Louis did not come outta this situation looking good.
YIKES
@@thinkwithvideos2238 Yeah. And this *after* everyone was ordered not to bring in torches during the dance of the wild men.
Huh I’m assuming Edgar Allen Poe got the idea for Hop-Frog from this. Always cool to know when history inspires art.
so... France was "cursed by god"... but then god sends a maiden to save France
Pika Zilla
God works in mysterious ways.
+Pika Zilla maybe lucifer pitied the france(!) D:
Pika Zilla It's like when God hardened pharao's heart and didn't allow the Hebrews to leave Egypt.
God is a pretty erratic dude
Probably just felt bad about it
France: "Becomes divided"
England: It's free real estate.
Let's be real, up until after the World Wars Britain viewed the entire world as free real estate.
@@gingermcgingin1733 Everything "not in Europe", as Britain's only strong point was her navy, not her land army. At least after the middle ages.
Im praying to every single god I can think of that there will be an Extra History series about the POPE FIGHTS!!!
Francine Mcloughlin If we are talking about popes here than you should be praying to every single Interpretation of THE God (and whatever “insert popes name here” says the big man says). I mean this is about heresy not apostasy my guy.
OSP! OSP!
If you want that to happen you have to vote for it on their Patreon, there is a good chance that it will work though.
While you waiting on Extra History doing an Episode of "Prayersunknown Holygrounds", i recommend the channel "Overly Sarcastic Productions". They did two episodes, summarizing and mocking the Pope Fights a little.
@@midshipman8654 your right, Please almighty Khorne, let there be a pope fights series lol.
Charles VII murdered his enemy in a peace negotiation in a brutal way...
*This angered his father who punished him severely*
Oversimplified reference
Wrong place.
Lmao
hey that s pretty ooversimplified to say the least.
@Marta Steinmetz What do you think. WHAT DO YOU THINK?
Matt: There were like 3 popes running around at this time...
My brain: Blue’s Pope Fights?
Ah, one of my favourite Blue episodes. The others are about the Romans.^^
POPE FIIIIIIIIIIIGHTS
Yusssss
*Airhorns and armchairs ensue*
Gotta love channel overlap but anyways
POPE FIGHTSSS
No one
Literally no one
Charles : *chuckles* “I’m in danger.”
but why does this video have an unusally high number of dislikes? 88% isnt good vs the average >95% on this channel
@@youwouldntclickalinkonyout6236probably a dislike bomb
Paranoia there must have been at 116% in the castle when you have the possibility to legit get murdered my an insane king
@Ishir Mehra Sounds like CK2 all over again
That's a case with any mad king. Specially when they run around shouting "I'm St.George".
I'm thinking that leper at the start was a hallucination.
No homo
@@shadiafifi54 I'm thinking that too, since he was almost never mentioned again.
The whole Armagnac/Burgundian conflict even degenerated into guilds war. Paris carpenters supported Louis, and the butchers supported John. It was that crazy.
The PlayerUnKnown Holygrounds had me dying. That's the type of humor I come here for.
Even better, it said “PrayerUnknown”
would've been even cooler if they added the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch as a little reference
I'm sure someone's working on the G-MOD
I thought you people came here to be told what games you are allowed to play.
This channel still has fans?
6:00
"Mornin', Frank."
"Mornin', Sam."
4:21 nobody gonna talk about how he had 6 fingers though great show
Yeah, I noticed it as well.
I was trying to think of something witty to say about it. Unable to do so, I opted to up vote your comment. :)
5:38 they only have 4
some has 9 and some 8
I'm searching for the six fingered man who killed my father.
3:39 Don't you just love it when you see popes fighting for supremacy?
hay
Walpole did you do that whatever it is in the 100 years war?
what i'm saying of course you did
Yes. Yes we do.
Yes
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You referred to Charles VII's "stepmother," but I think you mean mother-in-law.
to some extent she was both, he spent most of his formative years with her after his brothers died in rapid succession
@@q345ify That would be an adoptive mother. "Step" only applies to remarriage, as "half" only applies to bloodline.
@@PongoXBongo
still it's not uncommon for people to refer to an adoptive/ foster mother as a stepmother especially if the real mother is alive also adoption itself implies a legal relationship, which she didn't have with him (which is especially important in this case because she was arguably his kidnapper after he got disinherited because his mother requested he return to Paris and she refused to listen)
Foster parent is the usual terminology for having legal custody but not full legal parental rights. Maybe it's regional but in Australia there's definitely a clear distinction in everyday language between parents you acquire through your own marriage (in-laws) and parents you acquire through your parents marriage (step mother/father) I've never encountered a native English speaker who gets the terms confused.
@@ElizabethJones-pv3sj
your right maybe it's just where I'm from but in addition to it's usual meaning we use the term step-parent when we talk about people who are closer to a child than the term "foster parent" normally implies (it has a rather negative connotation here- think people who go into it just for the paycheck) but without having any legal relationship with the child whatsoever or where there is a real parent still in the picture with limited visitation/ rights
0:55 one of the guards that subdues the king is Jean de Carrouges, played by Matt Damon in the new “The Last Duel” movie with Adam Driver
I’m so glad you guys are doing a series on Joan of Arc, she was an incredible woman.
the word you mean is not incredible, but insane.
@itsinmyvein Joan is a female name
@itsinmyvein For English speakers, Joan is very much feminine. And Jeanne is just French Joan. Don't know why though.
@@frankschneider6156 She did a better job then the Mad King.
Catherine the Great is an incredible woman.
A monk when he presented John the Fearless's skull to king Francis I of France: "Sire, this is the hole through which the English entered France."
Prayerunknown's Holyground - SOMEONE MAKE THIS GAME
BRING FORTH THE HOLY HAND GRENADE
It’s "Pope Fight: the Game"!
@@VietTimPhan Good ol' worms.
Holy hand grenade
It's called mordhau
"Joan was a being so uplifted from the ordinary run of mankind that she finds no equal in a thousand years." - Winston Churchill.
"[Joan] is easily and by far the most extraordinary person that the human race has produced" - Mark Twain.
I adore this crazy girl.
Theripist: Joan of bark doesn't exist, she can't hurt you
Joan of bark:
*Joan of Arc
No it’s Joan of Bork
r/wooooosh
Thank you, I was hoping someone would wooosh them
Joan of bark: Woof woof!
The story of Joan of Arc compared with that of king Charles the Mad would actually be a very interesting mental health case study as both appeared to have been living with similar mental health problems, but were functioning at very different levels.
Thank you for doing this. I find Joan of Arc very interesting and you covering the topic really made my day today. Such a shame Daniel left his voice was so good
Héroïne nationale !
David...
Careful! Watching this video might turn you into a mad king.
Looks like this meme is gonna haunt them for a long time.
Goeliath NO! Anything but that!!!
BURN THEM ALL!!!
LOL!
Don't you mean SAINT GEORGE, YOU FILTHY PEASANT?!
I'm so excited for this series! I find this period of French history fascinating, and Jeanne d'Arc is my favorite historical figure. Can't wait for the next installment! :)
Lol
I just wanted to know who that funi character from clone high
It’s my favorite heroine of all time coming to Extra History! Long live the Maid of Orleans!
Vive La Pucelle!
My favourite too!
@@gwennblei Yes, she died at the tender age of 19. I am almost that age. Her life was cut short by her death sentence, but within three years, she did more than what most of us do in twenty years or in our entire lifetime.
"We fight for the maid of Orlean."
She’s one of my favorite Historical Figures.
That reference to "the thing" totally caught me off guard.
« Charles, reportedly in a bout of mental illness, pardoned John and called for a truce. »
my friend forgiving her ex for the 3rd time
Why are so many people disliking this video? I get you didn't like the one prior, but this a different video. Mass disliking only helps the channel.
I personally didn't agree with the message of the last video either, but I still enjoyed it because it was well spoken, though not as thoroughly thought out. But disliking their other, non opinion videos is just petty.
>Mass disliking only helps the channel.
What? How does that help the channel?
And does mass unsubscribing help the channel as well?
@@AnonYmous-jo1pk Because to dislike the video you must view the video. All the yt algorithm sees is a lot of people going to different videos on this channel all at once and begins to recommend the channel because of all the popularity. All Viewer interaction, including dislikes and angry comments, only help the channel.
@@FreedomPuppy no but mass disliking a channel does
5:32 how can you cut off a hand if it was disconnectedly floating in front of your body in the first place?
Magic
He cut through the ethereal bindings, of course.
You use a katana.
This is now my favorite video just because of the clip at 2:22
seeing it smiling honestly just made me laugh for long while there, you all animate very well.
YOu forgot the Dance of the Burning Men, where Charles and five others were litterally set on fire after being sown into flamable costumes and someone brought in a tourch
3:41 Great, now I want a series on the Antipopes.
Not extra credits, but too different. Ask and ye shall receive
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Might I recommend Overly Sarcastic Productions "pope fights" and "pope fights 2"
@@Magmafrost13 Also good.
Doing a Joan of arc monologue in my theatre class so these are going to be my savior tonight since I have to do a character analysis tonight.
2:22 "Here's the thing..." while they actually have a drawing of the mutated head alien from the Thing! I love the references EC makes! Like who in the world would've thought of that?
you also got bee-cuss right before
french government of any form: *breathes*
french people: *"I believe total mobilization is in order."*
Henry V: *invades France*
Burgundians: "Screw you guys, i'm going home!"
Important thing to remember about Henry V. While he was no doubt a brilliant military commander. He would NEVER have been able to conquer France, if it hadn't been for the fact that France not only was already in the middle of a civil war. And that France was also ruled by one of the most incompetent royal couples in human history.
Glad extra history is still doing well
@No Name I said extra HISTORY. That specific series. EC (The series) is not doing as well. Just wanted to clear that up.
But where is the story of Jeanne D'Arc Alter, the Dragon Witch
If I play a mad king in a video game do I become a mad king in real life?
I've been looking forward to an Extra History series on my girl Jehanne for so long. Glad it's finally here. Game, Movie, Real Life, or any other media, Jehanne D'Arc is my #1.
Me too! She's my girl as well. Winston Churchill called her "a being so uplifted from the ordinary run of mankind that she finds no equal in a thousand years." Yep. 👌
With all the other time periods you've covered, the Medieval period of Europe frequently got supplanted in my mind as the most interesting time to look at. Thanks for making a series to breathe new excitement for it in me :)
King: sanity is not important in this
Me: oh man this is gonna be fun
and then a Japanese swordsman arrived, and became the Regendary savior of France...
Do you, by any chance, come from Japan?
XD
So Musashi spent his vacations in France ?
@@frankschneider6156 he went on walks slaying swallows (dragons).
Regendary Saviol of Flance!
I love how this shows a little of the French side to the story we got in the other series!
Extra Credits: "Here is a video about the history of France"
Comment section:
And in some, it's not nearly as passive as you'd like to believe... >.>
Well exactly, they called an Iron Cross a Swastika and are trying to act like they know about history.
@@Admiral_Jezza You cannot use Swastikas in RUclips anymore.
@@erickmagana353 Maybe it's because it's now a channel that thinks removing enemies from games will make the world better. They are unqualified to educate
France: [Divides]
England: it’s free real estate
I have loved and looked up to Joan of Arc since I got to know her story from age of empires campaign.😀😃😄🥰
An incredible person isn't she? I began reading about her about two days ago, and I find her story so compelling.
Heck yeah, someone else remembers that series.
In AoE she's beautiful and brilliant, and sexy on that steel plate armor !
In the ds version of the game she is also a god on the battlefield, toughest unit in the game to kill if i'm not mistaken, she was also a good combat medic.
recently got addicted into these history videos and makes me feel like going back and play Age of Empires all over again.
King Charles VI:
The Leper: YOU ARE BETRAYED!!!!!!
7:45 All the king's horses and all the king's low-rendered men
Jaimie Lannister: sees the topic.
Jaimie Lannister: oh, here we go again.
_brings out sword_
@@math3000- Is it blood of your father on it?
5:40 cool motive, still murder
finally extra history is back with good content
See! Red vs Blue, but still violence!!?!?
NOTSOOBVIOUS GAMER never go backwards
Get the feeling that the larger than average dislike ratio is coming from the previous video.
That really speak volumes of the maturity of these people.
@@TheFiresloth They put forward the view that playing a character with immoral ideologies makes the player more accepting to those ideologies. They outright said that players who would choose to be facists are facists. Admittedly the dislikes should be kept to that video, but you can't say they haven't earned it.
@@TheFiresloth call everyone that disliked your last video a bigot -> being impressed that people will dislike your video, yes someone IQ must be higher than 40 to understand this.
You think?
@@darknephilim3248 Not so much "more accepting" of an ideology, as "less repulsed" by the symbol, or "less sensitive" to its significance in reality.
It's the only reason there's still controversy over what the Confederate flag means today - people just got used to flying it, so they're not receptive to the idea that it could actually represent slavery.
Also consider the skull - represents death or danger, so it's used to warn of poisonous substances. Problem is, pirates have been stealing it for the last few centuries, and many recent depictions of pirates are more cartoony or silly than dangerous, so, the skull's ability to represent danger decreases. Heck, Intel sells SSDs with skull emblems, and the "Mr Yuk" symbol was designed to replace the skull as a symbol of poison, with questionable effectiveness.
Getting used to a symbol isn't going to make you a white supremacist - that would take something else entirely. But it actually means something to fly, wear, or use that symbol, even in digital form.
Medieval Europe: Making the most exciting family feuds since the fall of Rome.
Is so beautiful see how History interconnects in such ways, we often see the story from one side, but in many cases, the real events are a conglomeration of dancing tales that together form the whole.
A hole in which the English entered, so it was said, as claimed by a certain Frenchman.
I went to St. Joan of Arc from Kindergarten to 8th grade. I love her. She was an amazing person. My family may have even served on the field of battle with her. If they did, I hope they got a good look at her and saw her for the Saint she was.
Untreated schizophrenic
So did he learn his lesson from the last video
"The Lance fell with a Clang"
*TRAITOOOOOOOOR*
“Because heres the thing” is my favorite part of the entire video
I have been hoping for Joan of Arc. Thanks.
4:21 so we just gonna ignore the fact that this man has 6 fingers on 1 hand?
"Instead of uniting, the factions played the blame game. The Bergundians argued that the Armagnoc had lost a crucial battle, and the Armagnoc claimed they would've won if the Bergundians had bothered to show up."
Sounds like a Moba match.
Be careful, you could become a knight from watching this!
because they made a bad video, you are going to hate the entire series?
@@franciscomm7675 No
This is the kind of stuff I like from you guys. Keep up this kind of work and people will forgive you for your slip up last time, I am sure of it.
It's just hard to trust them to be unbiased in their presentation of history now that they have shown how left leaning they are. I am still going to watch their stuff i'm just not going to trust it without question like before.
Agreed
What slip up?
@@darthmortus5702 check out there the video they uploaded before this
"stop normalizing nazis"
@@darthmortus5702 basically people straw manning EC as having said "playing a Nazi means becoming a Nazi" rather than what they actually said "Probably design systems to opt out of playing Nazis so we don't make them a skin rather than the historical monsters they are."
How was Henry V a foreign occupier? He was a French nobleman, with sizable landholdings in France, who also happened to hold the Kingdom of England.
He was viewed as foreign, and that was enough for the French.
He was from a different dynasty, that's why. Him being 'foreign' is a modern nationalist retcon to the story. Yes, it's probably false to say that the french people even thought of him as foreign; the reason the french ploughman hated the burgudnian or englishman, was because his liege lord said "I will kill if you/exile you, if you don't fight against them." and also that feudalism kept people attached to their lands. The reason historians don't affirm that though, even though it makes little sense not to, is that there's no direct evidence for a nobleman saying "I will kill you if you don't" with regards to the french, burgundians and english in that time period; despite them confirming that it is common throughout other periods of the middle ages, and being common in feudalism to exile or kill or punish a serf for breaking their contractual serfdom. France was also largely more agricultural, so it's probable that there was a greater percentage of serfs than in england (serfs couldn't move around; whereas free peasants could, and needed to due to sheep herding. Free peasants rented, whereas serfs were bound in permanent contracts).
Thing is, it would have been hard to tell nationalists that the whole reason for the war was because one group of monarchs hated another group of monarchs (which Henry was the head of; in Henry's case, the Plantagenets); it would've ruined the mythology that was necessary for them to possess 'national pride' or have a national enemy to hate, such as england. This may be because there's nothing like hatred to unite a people, and england was a useful object for the french republics (yes, there has been as many as 5 of those). Even though nationalism could arise out of something else like language or culture and sovereign borders, it apparently wasn't enough for france in the 19th century. Hence, the old nationalism often going with militarism, etc.
While that could have been true of Edward III, the caroline phase and the Lancaster taking over centralized the king of England to... well, England.
A frenchman named "the fearless"? What did he do to earn this title? Drinking wine without decanting it first? :D
John without Fear and the other following Burgundian dukes are considered national heroes here in Flanders since their alliance with the English ensured ongoing cloth trade, which Flanders was built upon. Here, tales of their lives are often glossed over in favour of the Bugundian dukes. And in France, it’s the other way around ofcourse. it’s cool to see a more neutral version of the situation! Thanks guys!
Despite their last video being an appalling pice of tripe I hope extra credits keeps going and learns from their mistakes
@Demiclea EC has always been politically mature. The last video was a disaster, but the whole identity of EC is that they don't stay away from politics, they put a political perspective into every content.
2:21- 2:23 "Because here's the thing"
*claps* Okay that was a good visual gag/pun.
Just as I am building backstory for a D and D paladin who has visions from god. This should be helpful
Council:Exists
The same council later:Let's split into two factions and create a lot of chaos!
isn't the man about to be assasinated at 0:27 wearing the coat of arms of the actual assasin?
If I could give Charles VII a compliment, I would tell him that he has a Nice Hat.
4:20
Did he just grow 2 more fingers?
Edit: I just realised that then he had more fingers than normal people, which just looks weird.
"It's a long story, we won't get into it."
What if we say pretty please?
You know crusader kings 2 handles "Mad kings" very easily....empathises on very easily
The worst thing is when your character goes insane but your heir is still underage so you have to try and not die.
Oxtocoatl I know the feeling
Bean-person god chucking france into a trash can has gotta be one of the funnier images ive seen on this channel lol
0:42 Charles sounding like Kylo Ren
France: *Exists*
England: It's a free real estate.
So wait John the fearless openly brags about killing the king's brother and even flirts with an alliance with england but gets a slap on the wrist, but Charles avenges his uncle's death and hes lambasted for it?
The armoured Armagnacs descended agressively upon the English archers.
It’s crazy when you realize that England had the war of the roses a few decades later... shows how frail the government system was in feudal Europe, especially if a war between military superpowers erupted...
Henry the 4th: I'm gonna conquer France
Joan of Arc: I'm about to end this man's whole career
You mean Henry V?
More like
Henry VI: I'm gonna rule over France when I grow up.
Joan Of Arc: I'm about to ruin this man's whole career
The Great Schism would make for an incredible Extra History Episode! :D
I would love to see that
Boy, oh boy have I been waiting for this.
Okay, on "Bee cuss, here's the Thing" I laughed so hard I almost collapsed
Charles the 6th clearly had schizophrenia, and so probably did Joan of Arc... interesting
7:50: WERE GOING INTO WAR PEOPLE ARE DYING
Dude in red: Pikmin :3
I would luv a Gustavus Adolphus or Wallenstein or Christina of Sweden series on Extra Credits; for when could it be?
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