Remember, you can check out the images I captured in this video in a bit more detail over on my blog at: julianbaird.me/blog/2020/9/12/landscape-photography-with-the-nikkor-z-24-200mm
@Max Lee Hi Max, I don't personally use screw on filters but I can recommend Kase Filters. I use their 100mm system and I know they do a screw in filter system kasefilters.com/kase-wolverine-magnetic-circular-filters
@Max Lee No, those Kase filters I mentioned are NDs. I wouldn't recommend a screw in grad because you have no control of where the transition is. If you want to use grads, you are better off opting for a 100mm system .
@Max Lee What ever brand you pick, I would still recommend that for graduated filters you don't go with screw in. :-) I'm pretty sure Hoya do a 100mm system.
thanks for this. just bought the 24-200 and looking forward to taking it into the field. this gives me confidence that I haven't made a mistake with the purchase.
Thanks for this vlog. I just received my 24-200 and I'm happy to hear an evaluation from someone who knows what to look for in a lens. As a hobbyist, it suits my needs perfectly and did replace my 24-70. So far I love it. I'm always amazed at the number of amateur photographers who think they need the latest and greatest, fastest and sharpest gear and I try not to slide any farther down that slope myself. Watching RUclips photography videos obviously contributes to the slipperiness of the slope!
Thanks for watching Ralph. 👍 Gear can be a slippery slope can't it! It's all to easy to get caught up in the marketing hype sometimes....I'm not immune to this myself. It's good to see Nikon producing great glass for the Z system at a variety of price points. 😀
I appreciate your through and honest review. I was a professional photographer for over a decade. I had just about every lens Nikon made it seemed like. I could see the mirrorless train coming and I knew I wanted to start to switch to the newer technology so I sold all of my F mount lenses. I've been waiting to jump on the Z train for some time. Now that the Z6II is coming out, this will be a great time for me to transition from DSLR to mirrorless. I too shot the Nikon 18-200. I used it as a primary lens on my assignments and it worked fine. Once I saw Nikon was coming out with the 24-200 I was sold. Great video, I enjoyed the content, and subscribed. Looking forward to more of your videos. Thanks!
Hey Spence, thanks so much for watching and for taking the time to leave a comment. Good to hear that you are joining the Nikon mirrorless system. I will also be interested in seeing what those mark 2 cameras will be like when they get announced on the 14th. I suspect the jump from Z7 to Z7 II might not be that appealing....well, I say that now....lets see what the specs are. Finally, thank you for subscribing....welcome to my channel and community. 👍😀
I have a 24-200mm lens and I'm amazed of the sharpness. Also it's very (very!) silent in focusing, so if you are making videos it's a very good alternativ. I also have the 24-70mm f4,, it came with the kit but it's far from a "kit-lens". I wanted to go beyond 70mm and like you, do not want to put all that money in a 70-200 f4. Now I'm shooting everything with my 24-200mm and I'm very satisfied. The built-in VR works excellent with the IBIS, so you could shoot handheld, photos and video. No detectable focus breathing or focus-shift when zooming. Really a lens to recommend if you want an affordable lens beyond 70mm.
Thank you for watching Patrick and for sharing your personal experiences of the lens. Great to hear you are also having a positive experience. It just goes to show how good the Z lens range is. 👍
Subscribed! I’ve watched a lot of vids re: 24-200 and most have agreed with you. I really like your presentation and your photos were great! The thing that stood out most compared to the other vids was your comparison of the two lens regarding the lens flare. Appreciate the honesty!
D5600 with 18-140 ED delivers crisp shots and good color. The actual photos reside in memory. I post some to FB for family and friends. I have been shooting since I got my first 35 in 1973. Just a hobbyist. Thank you for sharing your work. Best wishes.
I truly appreciate your review--and appreciate your low-key, sincere approach. Seems to me you have great priorities and budgetary sense, and it's what I need to benefit from! I wish you the best!
I purchased this lens with a Z5 body it’s a super quality piece of kit I added a 14-30mm f4 and a Z50mm f1.8 which completed my kit as a carry anywhere kit. I Have since added the beautiful Zfc with 16-50mm the ftz adapter now gives access to my vast Nikon F Mount arsenal of lenses if and when needed. But in all honesty the z 24-200mm is usually fixed on the front of one of my Z bodies 😊 Thank you for your revue really enjoyed watching and have subscribed 👍🏼
Great review Julian. I switched late last year from my D750 to a Z7ii, then in May this year I switched my travel camera from a Sony RX10 to a Z5 with the 24-200, precisely for the reasons you make in the video. On the one trip I have made so far, it works for me just great, I love the Z5/24-200 combination, although I have noticed the flare issue at times. All in all I think it's a very capable and flexible lens, and is perfect for my travel needs! .
Thanks Stephen. While it's not a perfect lens, it is still very capable, and I use it a lot. Good to know you are putting it to good use with the Z5. :-)
Great, timely video for me. I just bought this lens with my new Nikon Zf and am going to Yellowstone and the Grand Tetons next week, so your photo comparisons were very helpful. I really liked your prints and appreciate your preference in printing vs computer. Question...Im not that experienced with LRC; is there not a way to remove the lens flare in post? Thanks so much
Thanks, glad you found the video useful. Removing lens flare can be tricky and it depends how much there is and where. But AI has really improved the spot removal tools in LR, so you have a better chance these days. But as always, best to avoid it in the first place.
Just got mine and feels it is perfect for family, travel light and similar. Quality better than expected, really. For lo light indoor I have some 1.8 primes.
Great video, Julian. I appreciate your inclusion of the printed images. It's the bottom line for most photographers, but rarely shown in reviews. Nice job.
Thanks Gene, I appreciate you watching and for leaving a comment. Glad you liked the inclusion of the printed images...for me, the photographic process ends with a print. 👍😀
Glad to see the examples. I bought the 24-200 instead of the kit lens for its large range. I previously had an 18-270 on a D7200 and found it suited me as a walk around lens when travelling. Have to wait until Christmas before wringing it out, but really my wife wants us both to stay safe.
thanks Edward.....it's a tough decision to go out or not at the moment. Fortunately for me there are plenty of places on Dartmoor where you never see another person. Hope you get out soon and stay safe. :-)
Thanks Julian for this real world application look of the 24-200 lens. Definitely a good choice on a hike when lens changing on the move is not convenient.
I did notice a little better color rendition with the 24-70 F4. Right now that is the only Zed lens I own. I am disappointed with the flare issues with the 24-200. I shoot a lot of sunrises and sunsets. I did notice a bit of CA on a distant rock with the 24-200. It looks like it was removed but left that famous Lightroom silver halo. Excellent video. I am really considering the 14-30 F4 Zed. Thanks for your hard work.
Thanks, glad you like and appreciate the video. For the price point of the lens it does a pretty good job. I wouldn't be without my 24-70 f/4 though. The 14-30 f/4 is my favourite of the lot though. :-)
I had this lens for about a year but just could not get on with it. Although versatile and light I found the images to be not as good as those with the S lenses. I eventually sold it and purchased the 24-120mm F4 which is so much better. I have lost that 80mm focal length but having the 70-200 also I’m covered. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and lovely photographs. Can I ask what printer you use, thank you. Now subscribed to your channel
Hey Paul, firstly thanks for watching, and a big thank you for subscribing. Welcome to my channel. I now also have the 24-120 f/4 which has replaced both my 24-200 and 24-70. I have a video for the 24-120 if you are interested - ruclips.net/video/YkJrkQfdo1Q/видео.html Oh, and the printer I use is the Canon imagePROGRAF Pro-300, video here ruclips.net/video/QF3_JXuu_Ag/видео.html
I had this one too, I am very happy with it for traveling. It is not as good as the 24-70mm 2.8 and 70-200mm 2.8, but it is as good as the 24-70mm kit lens.
mate.. some of those images were stunning! so glad to see you print them!! might grab a copy lol.. this lens might have sold me a z7 haha.. great vid buddy
Thanks for the vlog Julian, it's great to have a real world review without things getting overly technical. Really appreciated the comparisons with the 24-70mm f4. Your prints look great. The 'do everything' capabilities of the 24-200 are certainly worth serious consideration, I'm considering the Z 24-50mm f4-6.3 with my Z6 and nothing else (no tripod, filters etc) for serious mountain walks. The gear bag just gets heavier and heavier. I've recently upgraded to a serious tripod (Benro TMA38CL) having previously used an adequate travel tripod that was ok but had a tendency to get blown over in strong winds. Really enjoying the increased stabilty of the new tripod but there's a certain weight penalty. I notice you're using the GD3WH head, I use the same and love the ability to fine tune compositions. Another weight penalty though. Would love to hear your thoughts on that tripod head. I'm still patiently waiting on my Z 70-200mm f2.8 as my telephoto zoom solution. Apart from landscapes it will be usable as a portrait lens, I regularly get badgered to take some shots of the grandkids. There's also the teleconverters, a 400mm reach is something to look forward to next year.
Cheers Richard, thanks for watching. Glad you liked my approach to the video. I think the choice of the 24-50 would also be a great choice for those super light kit bags days. Even the more budget friendly Z mount lenses are proving to deliver excellent image quality. It's one of the great things about this system. I love my Benro Geared Head. I wouldn't (normally) shoot landscapes without a geared head. I used to have the Manfrotto version, but the Benro is much lighter. I do have a ball head for when I really want to save weight, but it's normally a last resort to leave the geared head behind. There seems to be a big waiting list for the 70-200 f/2.8! And yes, those 1.4 and 2x teleconverters will make it even more versatile. Thanks again for watching.
Thanks for this video Julian - really helpful. One issue you didn't cover is weather sealing - I've had my 24-20 f/4 on my Z6 out in all sorts of weather with no problems at all. Will this 24-200 cope with Scottish rain?
Thanks Susan. Ah yes, good point, I didn't mention weather sealing. It is my understanding that it has weather sealing (not sure if it's as good as s-line weather sealing though). Would it cope with Scottish rain? Well, it wouldn't worry me. As I do with all my lenses though I always give them a quick dry before putting them in the bag, and another dry when I get back home.
great images and review, I've got this lens after finding i was rarely taking my F mount 70-200 out due to weight. have to say the 24-200 has rarely been off my Z6 since getting it. brilliant all rounder lens
Interresting findings regarding the 24-200mm. I got mine a few days ago and have put it to use at Fulufjället national park in Sweden. I will look and see if flare is an issue on my images but as you also say I dont shoot that ofthen in to the sun. It is also kinda easy to deal with most of the time in post prossesing when shoting an extra frame blocking the sun. As you said the image quality in real life is on par with the 24-70.
Thanks Andreas. You might find no issues with flare....it all depends on what you are shooting. I just happened to notice that in specific scenarios, the 24-70 handled it better. Hope you got some cracking shots from Fulufjället! And thanks for watching. :-)
Thanks Duane, I think you'd love Dartmoor and hopefully you'll be able to visit soon. :-) If you've got more time I have a Dartmoor playlist - ruclips.net/p/PLJU6FMi6Tvo-KuoU-UvOrL37vPULmv0Ny
My 24-200 came about a week ago. I have not really had time to try it out yet but did do some test shots and I found the results to be excellent. Appreciate the insight on lens flair. Of course, in many cases, you can edit lens flair out in post. It is certainly not a deal breaker as far as I'm concerned. I bought it for the same reasons you did--size and weight. Tired of carrying heavy camera gear.
Thanks Willard. Agree on the lens flare issue. I only mentioned to highlight the fact the S-Line 24-70 handles it better. A bit of shading or removal in post processing will fix most lens flare spots as you say. Nobody wants to carry heavy gear do they! 😀👍
Thanks Jim. :-) I think at the time of making that video I was using the Canon Pixma Pro-10S. I'm now using the Canon ImagePROGRAF Pro-300 which you can see my video on here ruclips.net/video/QF3_JXuu_Ag/видео.html
Nice one Julian, great to see side-by-side comparisons from real life photo shoots. I had not appreciated the price difference until you drew attention to it - that is a BIG ouch for the S line version! I am still on good old F-mount and DSLR, so don't expect to be hammering the credit card just yet. Lovely light and well captured, as always. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Steve. You definitely pay a premium for the S-Line lenses but for some people that will be a price worth paying. They are a bit like the gold ring lenses on the F mount system. Thanks for your positive feedback. Cheers :-)
Excellent vlog Julian. I currently have a Z6 with the 24-70 lens it came with. I am going to South Africa in November and am looking at the Z 24-200 for landscape shots. Would anyone be able to comment on suitability for wildlife photography? Thanks
Great video and really helpful as i am looking to buy a Nikon z5 with this lens. Which lens do you think would be best as a second lens, the 14-24mm or 24/70mm?
Thanks Andrew, glad you found it helpful. As for your 2nd lens, well that all depends on what you shoot. For me, I wouldn't be without my 14-30mm f/4. :-)
That’s a superb focal range, everything in one lens - I had an 18-135 on a Fuji X-T1 and 90% of the time I could achieve what I wanted, it equates out to 24-200 on full-frame. My first thought was a hood might reduce the flare, but it would need to transition from a petal for the wide end to a cone for the long end, and wouldn’t have any effect when pointing straight at the sun. Flare does suit certain situations tho, and it doesn’t harm your shot.
Thanks for watching mate. Good point on using a hood. I almost always shoot with filters though so a hood is rarely an option. I think I have a pile of them in a drawer somewhere! lol But you are right, flare isn't always an issue for some shots. 😀
Very nice video! At 21:30ish, you see the comparison of the two in the prints and I wonder if the contrast is better with the 24-70? Is it just the processing or the difference in light at the time? I have the 24-200 and it's interesting......I have to look more closely to see differences in sharpness vs 24-70 f2.8S, but on the other hand the 24-200 images often look a little less lively overall. So I'm wondering if it's a contrast / colour issue or a microcontrast issue. Thanks, I've subscribed :)
Hey Richard, thanks for watching and big thanks for subscribing. I couldn't really tell the different in quality between the 24-70 f/4 and the 24-200. I'm sure if pixel peeped enough you might spot stuff, but for landscapes it's hard to tell. The 24-70 f2/.8 is a different beast though, but I don't own that lens so difficult for me comment. I now have the 24-120mm f/4 which is a great lens. :-)
@@jbairdexp If you look at your video at 21:30ish, the difference in contrast is quite obvious but perhaps that's simply how it looks on YT or a difference in the scene at the time. The 24-70 f2.8S is simply stunning. About as perfect as that zoom lens could be in my opinion. The 24-200 isn't terrible in terms of sharpness, but the image can look more dull than the 24-70 f2.8S. It's more obvious with closer objects (portraits) as the 2.8S is ridiculously good for a 24-70 2.8 zoom optic.
Cheers Barry, always looking for a good pub....and my recommendation back to you is to try Ullacombe Farm (on the hill up to Haytor from Bovey side)....went there on Sunday for breakfast and it was bloody brilliant! :-)
Hi Julian this is a great review thank you. I’m seriously considering this lens for my Z7 mainly because of the versatility when out shooting landscapes. I have missed so many shots due to lens changes and putting on filters. I would be interested to hear your views on the NISI close up lens when you have tested it. I also have the 24-70 F4 and 70-200 F4 which serve me well. I will keep the 70-200 though as I also use it with a D500. Keep up the fantastic work.
Thank you David, great to hear you found the video useful. I haven't had much use for the NISI close up filter yet, but I hope to be putting it to good use this autumn for some close up shots. Thank you for watching! 👍👍
Julian, you confirmed my sentiments with the 24-200 for landscape work. I was shooting with the 24-70 f/4 Z and the 70-200 afs f/4 with the FTZ and it works well. But size and weight is another story... I tried a 28-300 for a while on my D800 but is was just too large and heavy for run-and-gun. Now I've got something that won't stay at home or in the car while traveling! BTW, nice landscape work in your presentation!
Thanks Larry, I appreciate you watching and for leaving a comment. As you say no point in having a lens you will just leave at home or in the car is there. :-)
I liked your vertical sunrise picture with the heather in the foreground. - and also the one you printed big. Interesting lens. The less equipment you need to carry, the the lower is the threshold to get out and use it - and the more (good) pictures are captured.
Is that the top of Sharpitor? Going through your back catalogue of videos, enjoying every single one. Looking at getting this lens now, to replace my F mount, adapted Sigma 60-600mm lens. Would this be a viable alternative with cropping do you reckon?
Hi, great to read you are going through my videos. Thank you and I hope you enjoy. The photographs in this video are taken around the Haytor area (Rippon Tor and Chinkwell Tor) so it's probably not Sharpitor you are seeing. I wouldn't think that the 24-200 is a replacement for your 60-600 though.....that's a fair gap between 200mm and 600mm. Too much even for a crop. Perhaps the Tamron 150-500 would be better choice?
@@jbairdexp Thanks for the reply, it's appreciated. I bought the Sigma 600mm for my D5, now sold. I'm gravitating more towards landscape stuff now. Evolving in what I do. As a former resident of the southern edge of Dartmoor, or near enough, I really miss it. Living in a foreign area, West Sussex, it''s not the same. The zoom to that level isn't needed as much now. Inconsiderate wildlife moves too much for me.. F mount stuff, you can't focus shift in the Z cameras either. So really, this lens for everyday use is the better option I think. Thanks for the location details too. I never realised how lucky I was, where I lived, until I see videos like your own. Maybe one day I'll get back there.
@@janneroz-photographyonabudget If you are more into landscapes these days, try the 24-120 - ruclips.net/video/YkJrkQfdo1Q/видео.html And you might also be interested in my Dartmoor video series - ruclips.net/video/0W8zqGVVWVA/видео.html
@@jbairdexp Thanks, on episode one at this very moment! I'll check that lens out too. I have the Viltrox 24mm f/1.8 arriving tomorrow. It replaces the F mount 20mm F/1.8 I sold at the weekend, immense lens, but I need to go Z mount, for the focus stacking.
Hi Julian , many thanks for yet another great vlog, could I just ask what method of focusing u used ? , eg a third into the scene? Or focus stacking? Many thanks Kev
Hey Kevin, thanks for watching. All the photos in that video were taken by focusing roughly a third of a way into the scene. I do use Focus Stacking on occasion, but not for these images. Cheers :-)
I’m awaiting delivery of the Nikon z7 II and very much considering the Z 24-200 hence my interest (Henry Turner had suggested your video review). You noted it is not auto focus and it would require in camera for this ~ I’m not quite understanding this point so can you please explain how? I normally hand hold for my panoramic images and generally catch it ok. But you mention the “panoramic head”? Can you possibly say where you can get such please
Thanks for watching.... a Z7 II, very exciting. The lens does AF but it doesn't have VR (Vibration Reduction). Not a problem for the Z7 II as the body has VR built it. YEs, I did say panoramic head didn't I...what I actually meant was my levelling head which allows me to capture panoramas more easily. It's one like this - amzn.to/2V9CJSu - though I am currently testing a new geared head which has a levelling head built it....expect a video on that soon. :-)
@@jbairdexp excited as a child on Christmas morning (and I am not young 😜) for Z7 II indeed. I’ve tried tripod mounting my D850 (about to be sold) , levelling off with bubble, and taking my images (bracketing all on occasions ~ a Henry Turner idea) which works sometimes for me; but I prefer hand held with back button focusing). Then Lr / Ps post. I’ll await you next video on this new bit of kit re levelling before a purchase > thanks for your help .
While I could go and buy a Z24-120mm (for more money) but I have one from FX and my D750. I have a Z5 now and use mostly on travel so Z24-200mm is likely perfect for the extra zoom. Thanks for your review.
Very useful and practical review, thanks! I'm sure that somebody else will shoot the test charts for more detailed comparisons, test vignetting, etc. It was nice to see a real world picture quality comparison for a change, and beautiful photos too!
Thanks Tim, I appreciate you watching and for leaving a comment. Ricci Talks does some excellent detailed analysis of the lenses - worth watching - ruclips.net/video/m7AkjAP1IMM/видео.html
@@jbairdexp Yeah I've watched a few of his videos. I think I'll do some comparisons also on "The Digital Picture", although they don't have full detailed reviews of Nikon lenses they can be compared on technical aspects on that site: www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Nikon-Zoom-Lens-Reviews.aspx BTW -- yesterday I looked at this lens in an online shop, because when upgrading to a Nikon FF eventually I'd like a zoomlens with a bit more reach than the 24-70mm. This morning your review is at the top of my list when I open RUclips. Coincidence?? Or thanks to our all-knowing advertising overlords?
Nice review Julian, as always I like the part on printing, I'm on the fence a wee bit as I have the Z7 with 24-70 S lens, but will probably end up buying the 24-200 and then use it 90% of the time, thanks again for getting out there.
Cheers Trevor, thanks for watching and glad you appreciate the printing element of the video! 👍 Always happy to get out there and share my experiences. 😀
Hi Julian, enjoyed the video, thank you. Im fairly new to photography and currently using Nikon z50 (crop sensor) and im looking at either getting 24-200 or 24-70 f4. Both have thir pro's and cons, I will mainly be doing landscapes but would like to practice some portraiture too. What would you recommend?
Hey Jack, glad you liked it. Just to make your life a little more difficult, you could also consider the new 24-120 f/4 (ruclips.net/video/YkJrkQfdo1Q/видео.html) This is a good balance between the focal length of the 24-200 and the additional features that you find on a lens like the 24-70 f/4. Any three of those lenses will be great for landscapes though. For portraits though, I'd stick with the f/4 lenses. However, you could instead buy a relatively inexpensive fast prime lens for practising your portraits. Viltrox do a range of fast primes ( a few of which I own - ruclips.net/p/PLJU6FMi6Tvo-qIkdawLPkyyV8zfm2dQlS ). They have will give you the shallow depth of field that people like in portraits (which you can't always get with an f/4), and they also support eye AF which is very handy at f/1.8! So if budget stretches, I'd get one of those f/4 lenses for your landscapes, and Viltrox for portaits.
I loved the video, very helpful. I do have a question, on the image at 17:04 min. the colour temperature looks different? The 24-200 looked warmer vs. a bluer tone of the 24-70..... Do you think this is due to the coatings, or lack of?
Thanks Michael, glad you found the video useful. I looked back in LR, and I've processed the files with slightly different white balances. Nothing to do with the lenses themselves :-)
Have you ever had any issues with purple fringing? Saw on one review where it seems to be there on harsh contrast of dark edges against bright background, it's making me lean towards the 24-120 f4, as I like shooting sunsets directly into the sun with various foreground, even though I'd like the extra reach of the 24-200, thanks
I've seen many reviews and there seems pretty bad fringing on both this lens and the tamron 28-200. I don't think there's any way around it apart from fixing in lightroom or something.
Thanks for sharing the look at the lens Julian. I agree with you, if I had this lens it would be for 2 reasons. The weight reduction in my backpack and I'd only use for something like a focal range of 50-200mm. Combined with the 14-30mm F4 it'd make for a light weight versatile bit of kit. Cheers 🙏👍
Hey Adrian, thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment. It's good to see the Z mount lens line up being flushed out and we now have some good options when we want to be more versatile. Cheers. 👍😀
I have the 14-30 and the 24-70 f4 Z mount lenses and love them. I use the 70-200 F4 f mount lens and have found it balances nicely on my Z6 and it’s nice to have a constant aperture. I’ll probably wait to see what the 24-105 provides when considering a longer focal length for the camera.
Thanks for watching Eric. I think if I'd maybe had the 70-200 f/4 F mount rather than the f/2.8 version I might have done the same as you. It will be interesting to see the price of the 24-105 and the 100-400. In the mean time, I think the 24-200 fits the longer end of my focal length requirements nicely. Cheers 😀👍
@@jbairdexp This is exactly my quandary. I have the same lenses as Eric with my Z6. Plus the 28-300. If I go with the 24-200, the 28-300 definitely goes. Too few of my pics are over 200mm. It seems as though the 24-200 matches up more than nicely with the 24-70. So, I thought I would sell it and not look back. Again, second thoughts because I enjoy the walk around with the 24-70. I'm really just waiting to hear from enough people that I will not miss the 24-70. Next up..70-200 f/4? Of course many have said to just keep them all. I don't like to leave good lenses gathering dust. Better to be in the hands of those who will use them. #undecided.
Great great video......i am purchasing the Nikon Z 7 2 and the 24 to 200 tomorrow...... i am selling all my heavy duty 24 to 70 2.8 14 to 24 2.8 an the 80 to 400.........getting too heavy with the D 800. i do mostly fun travel photography getting too old to carry heavy stuff.....Am I doing the right thing!!!!!! thank you. George
Congratulations on a fine purchase George. I came from the amazing D850, but I welcomed the weight savings that the Z system brought. I do not regret my buying decision. I'm sure you'll love your Z system as well. How exciting!!
Those images even on RUclips look awesome & pin sharp... Many Thanks for doing the comparison as i being a Nikon shooter myself I have contemplating an upgrade from APS-C to a full frame mirrorless. I have been looking at the Z6/Z7, probably opting for the Z6 with its lesser megapixels & smaller file size as I don't feel I need or want to deal with the large file sizes of the Z7?? Also the slightly better low light capability & better Video capability. of the Z6 appeals. But then I hear there might be an imminent upgrade release (Z6s /Z7s or Z8/Z9 whoever you care to believe) with an articulating screen, two card slots & other updates... so I am now in a holding pattern to see if the upgrade comes & if so, is it worth the extra cash or can I make do with the Z6 at hopefully a reduced bargain price!! Just wondering if you have regretted upgrading from the DSLR & D850 to the Mirrorless Z7 system & what your Pros & Cons would be of each?? I am liking the 24-70mm Z lens you have been shooting with & feel what ver camera I eventually plump for, I will definitely be getting that lens. I also have some vintage glass I use with some Nikon film cameras that I want to to have a go shooting with on a modern mirrorless camera so I am going to have to make use of the adapter. Again thank you for the Vlog & your time & effort. Best Wishes David
Thanks David, I appreciate you watching and for taking the time to leave a comment. You might find my Z7 video interesting - ruclips.net/video/csrV12tyUH8/видео.html - The main reason I went Z7 over Z6 is that the Z7 shoots at ISO 64 which I find beneficial for landscapes. Yes, I've also heard those rumours about new cameras. Waiting a few months might mean you could pick up a good used Z6 or Z7, or you can pay the premium for the latest model (depends on what you need and the size of your wallet). Do I regret moving from the D850....nope, not for a minute. I cover a couple of my niggles with the camera in my video, but even some of those have gone or I've changed my workflow. I would never go back to a DSLR now. For me, all the benefits are with the mirrorless system. Hope this helps, but please ask additional questions if you like. Cheers Julian
@@jbairdexp Many thanks for your response it helps along with the vlog. I am definitely going to go mirrorless its just when & with what Nikon offering & agree cost is likely to play a part dependant on specs / cost of new model(s) if they materialise... Enjoying the vlogs & the scenery. I am hoping to return to beautiful Cornwall / Devon in the not too distant future when the world returns to a more mode as I love that part of the world.... Especially fond of The Lizard. Cheers Again. Regards David
Instead of a close up ring is it worthwhile using the Z7 to swap to DX mode giving you 300mm? Do you think you would have ended up with a similar outcome or is a close up ring essential kit?
Hi, using up close up ring isn't quiet the same as cropping/DX mode. Nothing probably beats a dedicated macro lens, but if you do want to dabble in macro, they are a great choice. Not essential kit though.
@@jbairdexp Fair enough - thanks for the reply. I saw reviews where it was said 2 lens was preferable to 1 no doubt the price would reflect that. Interesting for a consumer grade guy, seems a good way to go. Thanks again.
Very good review for me as a landscape photographer. Actually thinking about switching from Nikon d5200 (with among others) my 18-200mm vr dx, to a Nikon Z5 and a 24-200mm. Helps a lot for my choice, especially you shooting the higher apertures for depth of field. Do you think this 24-200 is sharper as your old 18-200? Of course there is a lot of age difference... Also would like to know if you have experience with the FTZ adapter for older?3 party lenses... thanks!
Hi Jan, glad you found the video useful. I expect you'll find all the Z lenses to be sharper than their F mount equivalents. I'd be surprised if you didn't see a decent jump in image quality with the Z5 and 24-200. The new 24-120 f/4 Z lens is also worth considering. I've never used the FTZ adapter, but I've not heard any complaints about it. :-)
@@jbairdexp thanks! Choosing for the 24-120 would mean also to buy a 70-200. A lot of weight difference, but for sure a lot of money difference. Don't know or the extra quality justifies this
@@jbairdexp i agree! Don't need the 2.8. Will use is mostly for landscapes, abstracts and some close-ups and still-life. Rather spend my money on the 14-30mm z lense for the wide angle landscapes. And maybe the 105mm micro. I am a fanatic (butterfly) macro shooter too. (But maybe my 105mm sigma on a ftz adapter is good too. Some investigations to do....😉
The quality & sharpness of this non-S lens is amazing. With F-mount, I got away from do-everything lenses, but this Z lens has me reconsidering. Beautiful images & thanks for the vid - new sub here! :)
Thanks for the details on this lens Julian. I watched your video a couple months ago while I was still researching the Z7 and the 14-30/24-70 S lenses. I just got all three pieces of kit a week ago. After reviewing the new 70-200 2.8, I was astonished at the size of it. It's bigger than my current Nikon 70-200 2.8 f-mount! I just viewed your video again. In reading other reviews and user forums, there are a lot of parallels with your observations. Given that I'm also trying to keep my full-frame landscape kit small, this lens seems like a logical choice despite some of the trade-offs you mentioned for landscape photography. I can always attach the 2.8 f-mount if I need to. I do have two questions now that you've had more time with the lens since your original video: 1) are there any additional observations on IQ, handling, etc that you would add to the video? 2) is there a way of turning VR off on the lens? Is it always "on" and how does it work with the z7's IBIS? Thanks again for the informative video. I'll probably have one in hand soon! Miguel
Hey Miguel, congrats on joining the Nikon Z family! 👍 Not much to add on the video really. I spent a full day in Welsh mountains with the lens recently and it performed well, and I had no issues with the image quality. In terms of being able to capture landscape photographs I'm really happy with it. It was great having a lens with a wide ranging focal length to carry about. Generally speaking though, I'm still using my 24-70 more, but that's more to do with the types of landscape photograph I take. I tend to shoot wider and I did buy the 24-200 to cover the longer focal lengths (which I shoot less often). VR? No idea! I very rarely (if at all) use the camera hand held. I'm almost always on a tripod and so VR on the camera is turned off. I would imagine that if VR is off on the camera it will also be off on the lens. Hope this helps!
@@jbairdexp Thanks so much for the detailed response. Glad to know it continues to do well. Yes, 24-70 and tripod are usually what I use as well. Like you the 24-200 will cover the longer end for me. However, I do tend to take some hand held images with the 70-200 (equivalent) on my Olympus EM-1 kit - so the IBIS comes in handy. I'm looking forward to adding this lens in the near future. Your input again is much appreciated. Keep up the good work!
VR is turned off/on using the i menu option (if you have it added the the i menu). There is no lens switch this time, but nor do the other Z lenses have them.
Another great video, thank you. I am eagerly awaiting the arrival of my 24-200. I also love to see the printed image, even when there is no wall space left in my house. I would be interested to know which printer you use ?
Thanks for watching Mark and I appreciate you taking the time to leave a comment. I use a Canon Pixma Pro-10S. I've got a few printing videos if you're interested -ruclips.net/p/PLJU6FMi6Tvo_kuUIioDAagRJ6zsvo1X3P
Hi Julian, thanks for the review. As you mentioned the lens is susceptible to flare at times, what’s your thoughts on using a uv nano coated filter on the front.
Thanks for watching Bryan. The only filters I use in front of my lens are ND grads, NDs and polariser. I don't use UV filters etc. With this lens, if I can't shade the lens with my hand to remove the flare, I will just opt to remove it in post processing. 👍
Greetings from Ireland and thanks for this great breakdown of the lens, subbed! As someone who is buying into the Z system very soon, this lens is what I intend to purchase alongside a preowned Z6 (foregoing the kit 24-70). It's perfect for an all in one lens for 'travel', and as a hobbyist with a planned photography trip to Japan in spring (COVID permitting), it would cover that 70-200 focal length that I would miss with the kit 24-70mm. This lens paired with a couple of 1.8 primes for low light/night street photography is all I would need.
Hi, I always shot with a D3400, now thinking about finally upgrading and grabbing a Z6II. It will be a huge improvement, at least I hope it will be. Now I'm thinking about which kit I should buy. I can buy the kit with 24-200 for €800 extra or the 24-70 f/4 for €600 extra. I'd love the range of a 24-200, but it's a little more expensive in the kit and have seen that the 24-70 is slightly better. Also I've had lens flare ruining my shots in the past with the 18-55 (although that lens is maybe still miles behind the 24-200 in optical quality), but the 24-200 being more susceptible to lens flare is something I'm a bit afraid of. I think I'll still grab the 24-70, because it's cheaper, it still is a nice range and it is slightly better. Curious what's your or others advice?
Hey Simon, you'll notice a significant difference in image quality and functions going from the D3400 to the Z6 II. You'll love it I'm sure. Lens choice is a hard one to comment on because everyone has slightly different requirements. However, I doubt you'll ever regret getting the 24-70 f/4. It's a cracking lens. 👍
Very good. It certainly does measure up to what you need. I would have been very reluctant. At one time I had a lens that did not measure and that made me cautious. You did what I did not, research and prepare. I think the Z products have turned about to be excellent. I have the Z 7 and a few lenses. Impressed from the beginning.
Thanks Glen, always nice to see a comment from you. With each new product in the Z system the overall solution gets better. The quality of even the more reasonably priced products is great. I've never looked back!
I have heard that the focal ring on the lens over rides AF to manually focus. Do not know if that is true. Also, unless a new one has come out, the 20-200 does not have a tele-converter 1*4 2* that fits it? When the Z9 comes out to replace the D6 they must release a 400mm and more lens or why release a Z9?
Not that I use the focus ring that much but as far as I've seen it behaves on the 24-200 in the same way as it does with any other Nikkor lens. And correct, there is no tele-converter for this lens. The current Z teleconverters work with the 70-200 f/2.8. The type of people that would buy a Z9 are the type of people that need a fast 400, so it would make sense for Nikon to make those types of lenses available when the camera comes out. :-)
When you zoomed in to show the lens flare, I noticed that the 24-70mm S line F4 lens is a tiny bit sharper but the difference is negligible. I’m just wondering if there would be a noticeable difference in sharpness if you compare the 24-200mm lens to 24-70mm S line F2.8 lens.
Hi, I don't have the 24-70mm f/2.8 to compare it with but given that it is an s-line lens and it's considerably more expensive, I expect there will be some differences in image quality. The question is, will you notice and does it matter for your photography and the way people view your images. :-)
Great insight to the lens mate, I tend to shoot into the sun and have noticed a dramatic improvement with the 14-30Z and 24-70Z compared to my F mount glass. I'm still on the fence with which way to go for the extra focal length and currently using the Z 50-250 DX lens on my Z7 but at the expense of the megapixels. Keep up the good work Julian.
Thanks so much Adam. 😀👍 It would be interesting to know how it compares to the 50-250DX. Aside from the loss in megapixels I would expect the results to be similar....these Z lenses (even the more budget friendly ones) seem to perform very well across the range.
Hey mate, yeah I still recommend this lens. But I only use it for landscapes so it suits me well. The 24-200 and the 70-200 are very different lenses, so which one you select will depend on what you are going to shoot (and how deep your pockets are). :-)
I only have the 24-70mm F4. I mainly shoot landscape but I can't decide what lens to get next. The 14-30 F4 or this 24-200 for the reach. Shame they don't have an F4 70-200 as the 2.8 is way too expensive for me
I agree it's a shame there isn't a 70-200 f/4 yet. There is a 100-400mm coming, but I think that might be rather expensive. I also have the 14-30 and it is a brilliant lens. If you tend to shoot wide for your landscapes, that's the lens to get. :-)
@@jbairdexp I expect the 100-400 to be rather expensive as well haha. I am torn between getting the 14-30 or the 24-200 for the telephoto. I know eventually o want the 14-30 and a telephoto but I cannot decide what to make my second lens lol
@@MaxDamage182 For me it's an easy decision as I shoot wide a LOT more than I shoot tight. Have a look at your images and see how often you shoot above 70mm and how often you shoot wider than 24mm. :-)
Hi. I'm just thinking of buying Nikon Z6. And I am faced with a choice. Buy a kit with 24-70 f4 or only body and 24-200 ? What would you advise me as an amateur photographer ? Thanks.
Hey, thanks for watching. I think it all depends on what you are going to shoot with your Z6. If you are planning on just shooting landscapes then the 24-200mm is a great choice.
Interesting video, and it may change what lens I plan to buy next. It's going to be a tough choice between the 70-200 S line and this one, and the weight saving may be a huge factor.
Thanks for watching. Tough choice indeed. I think if you have the need for the f/2.8 aperture and have the budget the decision is made for you. They might have similar focal lengths but they serve different purposes (and budgets!). :-)
@@jbairdexp this is what I do to be honest, with a fuji 55-200 and a 12mm. Between them, my bases are covered for landscape. I know there is a gap in the middle but it's honestly not bothered me so far. I'd rather be light and not dragged down by kit than fully loaded. I have the full range but if I'm hiking, I'd rather not take it all. Lovely shots, reminds me of my 10 tours and DofE days 😊
Exactly. And to be honest, depending on where I was going I'd now even be tempted to leave the 14-30 behind, and go just with 24-200. It's good to have options isn't it!😀
Great stuff! I'm really keen in getting this lens and not so keen on pixel peeping so thanks a lot for this review. This one or if there is a 70-300 planned.
Hi firstly thanks for the video! I’ve had the Z6 for about 8 months now which I bought with the 24-70 lens and F2Z adaptor so I can use my old lenses, I have the 18-200 which was always my go to lens on my DSLR especially for travel but I’m seriously considering getting the 24-200 mainly so I don’t have to keep changing lenses whilst out and about exposing the sensor. Can you tell me if there would be any other benefits in choosing this lens over my old 18-200? Thanks in advance for any guidance you can give
Hey Ian, thanks for watching and great choice with getting the Z6. There are two main reasons for moving to the 24-200 from the 18-200. Firstly, the 18-200 is a DX (crop) lens so you won't be making the most of your full frame sensor. The 2nd reason is that the Z lenses are optically superior to most F mount equivalent lenses and are designed to work with the Z bodies. The 18-200 is an old lens (it was the first lens I bought for my D80) so the quality of the optics in the 24-200 will be light years ahead and will produce superior results on your Z6. IMHO, it's a no brainer.....I don't often say that, but in this case if you have the budget you won't regret it.
@@jbairdexp thanks so much for the quick reply I really appreciate it. You’ve sort of made up my mind, I might have to start trading in my old gear 😂 as I’d really like the 14-30 too. Can I just add the image of the sun over the moor was fantastic 👏👏
Have you tried anything else than landscapephotography with this lens? Wildlife, street or travel? Looking for motivation ideas for my lens 😊 living in flat Denmark and don't have options to go out of town 😬
@@jbairdexp OK but boo hoo.......:-( I just caught this video and I am using the F mount 28-300 f3.5-5.6 which I wish I had last year when I went to Vietnam. It would have meant a lot FEWER lens changes from my primes to the 70-300 VR I was using then. I found the 28-300 to be a great every day walking around lens since then.
@@jbairdexp Will you be upgrading to the Z6II or Z7II anytime soon? After all, they are the cameras NIKON should have released in the first place.......
I totally agree that the Z 7 II is the camera they should have released in the first place. Am I upgrading though? I'm on the fence, but probably not. There are a couple of nice to have features that I like, but it's not compelling enough for me as a landscape photographer to justify dropping all that cash to get a few minor upgrades. I'm not saying I won't, but at the moment I see myself waiting till later in 2021 to see if a Z8/Z9 comes along.
I had the 24-200 first (one lens range winner, 6.3 at 70mm though, and a tad bulky for hiking IMO.) Then got the 24-70f4S 1/2 MSRP used open-box (IQ/indoor winner, and it feels faster) Then got the 24-50 used open-box (compact winner only to be used at 24mm!) I still can't pick which one/one's I could do without! Then we'll have the 24-105f#S to consider. I kind of wish they had released the 24-105 first! It is going to be larger than the 24-70, likely cost more (if IQ matches the 24-70,) unless it has variable aperture (would need to be 2.8 wide.) The design limitations of the Z mount require a longer lens. So we're not seeing the benefits of the mount. A DSLR rig with a kit lens is only 1" longer and about the same weight of a Z6II rig. HOWEVER, the more I use the other Z5/Z7/Z6II cameras and DSLR's (D750/D500/D780) the more impressed I am with my Z50 and it's kit lenses/cost/value. SERIOUSLY impressive SOOC JPG's.
PS Other than the obvious benefits of FF regarding OOF/Bokeh, IBIS, and 1 stop advantage. I can easily work around those issues for 1/4 the investment!
@@jbairdexp UPDATE: I've decided that the less expensive Z lenses are good enough for my use. I'll keep my 16-50, 24-70f4S, and add the 50-250mm and 20f1.8G used. I can make them work with additional lighting. Lightened up my bag, filled my wallet back up, and the Z50 is a bit easier to stabilize (monopod/tripod/etc.) compared to the others.
A terrific practical review. Is there a conflict with the lens VR when using a tripod? My understanding is that you should switch off this feature under this circumstance. I don’t believe that you can do this with this lens.
Thanks Paul. There is no VR switch on this lens so you can turn it off and on through the camera menu system (which you can set a item in the "i" menu for). I don't use VR so it's off on my camera all the time so I don't consider the tripod situation. I believe this was an issue with early VR implementations and you needed to switch it off when on a tripod. I don't think it matters any more though and you can leave it on, but I could be wrong.
Interesting read this though - www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4499964 - it seems that the Z camera manual indicates that they recommend you turn of VR when on a tripod.
Thanks Julian. I always have IBIS switched off when I mount my Z7 on a tripod. Lens VR is something that can be used in conjunction with IBIS but I am presuming that if IBIS is switched off in the camera settings then lens VR is also? It’s all a bit confusing!
@@paulroberson7113 They work together now, so VR is on or off. You can't have it turned on for the lens but switched off for the camera (and vice versa). So when you turn VR on in the menu, it turns it on for both the camera and lens.
@@jbairdexp you videos have good quality even in 240fps in RUclips so , if you share your video exporting settings for uploading RUclips and for clients , it will be a great information for me and a lots of content creators
Just one little nitpick, as it makes little sense to me to shoot at 400 ISO in order to have a faster shutter and at the same time shooting with a neutral density filter and polarizing filter and then noting that your image has more noise. In addition, shooting with filters does not give a natural view of a lens when attempting to evaluate performance. Flare and ghosting is also influenced by the amount of glass one piles on in front of the lens.
To be fair, it's a neutral density graduated filter which I use to balance the exposure between the sky and the ground. Even if I hadn't used it, I still would have used the same exposure settings for the ground (as this is the area I exposed for). I agree a polariser does reduce the amount of light coming into the camera, but that's not why I used. While I agree that filters can influence flare and ghosting, I mentioned it only to compare it with the 24-70 S, which with the same filter configuration does not have the same issues with flare.
I just bought this lens, I am not selling my 24-70 f/4 S though. I just hope Nikon fill the void and release a 70-200 f/4 S Z soon, to complement my 14-30 and 24-70 f4 S.
Julian.. Great video... A lot photographers think they need an F2.8 or greater. As you pointed out not needed really needed for landscape. Like you mentioned t he only reasons why I have F2.8 or greater is for fast action sport, wildlife and sometimes product photography with photo stacking.
Thanks Peter. 😀 Exactly, generally speaking no need for f/2.8 glass for landscapes. I've owned f/2.8 glass before and while I used it for landscapes, that wasn't the reason I had f/2.8 glass at the time....I was shooting a lot of gigs and concerts so needed the fast aperture. Most of my photography is a bit more sedate these days! Thanks again for watching and taking the time to leave a comment.
At first sight the 24-200 is a tempting choice for landscape photography: Relatively small and light, with a very useful reach from wideangle to tele. But there are two serious drawbacks: First it is slow - already at 50mm you get only F5.6, and at 70mm you are already at F6.0 - instead of F4.0 with the excellent Z 24-70 S F4.0. But even more critical is the not optimal coating, so if you shoot in direction of the sun, having it in the frame or near the frame, you will have flares, and a reduction of contrast almost everywhere in the image. That is why I will not buy this lens (I often shoot in backlight situations). Instead I am awaiting the Z 24-105mm S F4.0 (?) to come 2022, I hope ...
Thanks for watching Markus and for taking the time to leave a comment. In terms of the variable aperture, given that I don't shoot landscapes wider than f/8, I don't personally see that as a problem. However, that might not be the same for everyone. I agree though that by not having the nano-coating it reduces its performance when dealing with direct light. But again, it will all depend on the types of images you shoot. Hopefully the 24-105 will be just around the corner. I could see myself replacing my 24-70 with this lens, and perhaps getting the 100-400mm (if it's not too expensive). Either way, it's good to have options because as you've pointed out, no one lens suits everybody :-)
@@jbairdexp I agree with most points you make. But even in landscape photography, although I also often shoot at f/8 and f/11, there are dawn- and dusk situations I am happy to have f/4 at hand. The 24-105mm is on the Nikon Z- roadmap - it could become my bread-and-butter lens for landscape. But I do not think it will completely replace my 24-70 f/4, which is so handy and gives me excellent image quality. The 100-400 is on my priority-list as well. Kind regards from Switzerland
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Remember, you can check out the images I captured in this video in a bit more detail over on my blog at: julianbaird.me/blog/2020/9/12/landscape-photography-with-the-nikkor-z-24-200mm
@Max Lee Hi Max, I don't personally use screw on filters but I can recommend Kase Filters. I use their 100mm system and I know they do a screw in filter system kasefilters.com/kase-wolverine-magnetic-circular-filters
@Max Lee No, those Kase filters I mentioned are NDs. I wouldn't recommend a screw in grad because you have no control of where the transition is. If you want to use grads, you are better off opting for a 100mm system .
@Max Lee What ever brand you pick, I would still recommend that for graduated filters you don't go with screw in. :-) I'm pretty sure Hoya do a 100mm system.
@Max Lee Happy shooting what ever system you go for. The 24-200mm is a cracking lens :-)
thanks for this. just bought the 24-200 and looking forward to taking it into the field. this gives me confidence that I haven't made a mistake with the purchase.
Glad you found it useful. It's a great lens, and very versatile. :-)
Thanks for this vlog. I just received my 24-200 and I'm happy to hear an evaluation from someone who knows what to look for in a lens. As a hobbyist, it suits my needs perfectly and did replace my 24-70. So far I love it. I'm always amazed at the number of amateur photographers who think they need the latest and greatest, fastest and sharpest gear and I try not to slide any farther down that slope myself. Watching RUclips photography videos obviously contributes to the slipperiness of the slope!
Thanks for watching Ralph. 👍 Gear can be a slippery slope can't it! It's all to easy to get caught up in the marketing hype sometimes....I'm not immune to this myself. It's good to see Nikon producing great glass for the Z system at a variety of price points. 😀
I appreciate your through and honest review. I was a professional photographer for over a decade. I had just about every lens Nikon made it seemed like. I could see the mirrorless train coming and I knew I wanted to start to switch to the newer technology so I sold all of my F mount lenses. I've been waiting to jump on the Z train for some time. Now that the Z6II is coming out, this will be a great time for me to transition from DSLR to mirrorless. I too shot the Nikon 18-200. I used it as a primary lens on my assignments and it worked fine. Once I saw Nikon was coming out with the 24-200 I was sold. Great video, I enjoyed the content, and subscribed. Looking forward to more of your videos. Thanks!
Hey Spence, thanks so much for watching and for taking the time to leave a comment. Good to hear that you are joining the Nikon mirrorless system. I will also be interested in seeing what those mark 2 cameras will be like when they get announced on the 14th. I suspect the jump from Z7 to Z7 II might not be that appealing....well, I say that now....lets see what the specs are. Finally, thank you for subscribing....welcome to my channel and community. 👍😀
I have a 24-200mm lens and I'm amazed of the sharpness. Also it's very (very!) silent in focusing, so if you are making videos it's a very good alternativ. I also have the 24-70mm f4,, it came with the kit but it's far from a "kit-lens". I wanted to go beyond 70mm and like you, do not want to put all that money in a 70-200 f4. Now I'm shooting everything with my 24-200mm and I'm very satisfied. The built-in VR works excellent with the IBIS, so you could shoot handheld, photos and video. No detectable focus breathing or focus-shift when zooming.
Really a lens to recommend if you want an affordable lens beyond 70mm.
Thank you for watching Patrick and for sharing your personal experiences of the lens. Great to hear you are also having a positive experience. It just goes to show how good the Z lens range is. 👍
Subscribed! I’ve watched a lot of vids re: 24-200 and most have agreed with you. I really like your presentation and your photos were great! The thing that stood out most compared to the other vids was your comparison of the two lens regarding the lens flare. Appreciate the honesty!
Thank you and welcome to the channel! I don't often have two lenses in order to make the comparison so I'm glad you found this useful. :-)
D5600 with 18-140 ED delivers crisp shots and good color. The actual photos reside in memory. I post some to FB for family and friends. I have been shooting since I got my first 35 in 1973. Just a hobbyist.
Thank you for sharing your work. Best wishes.
Thanks for watching Walt and for sharing your photographic journey. 😀👍
I truly appreciate your review--and appreciate your low-key, sincere approach. Seems to me you have great priorities and budgetary sense, and it's what I need to benefit from! I wish you the best!
Cheers Todd! :-)
I purchased this lens with a Z5 body it’s a super quality piece of kit I added a 14-30mm f4 and a Z50mm f1.8 which completed my kit as a carry anywhere kit.
I Have since added the beautiful Zfc with 16-50mm the ftz adapter now gives access to my vast Nikon F Mount arsenal of lenses if and when needed.
But in all honesty the z 24-200mm is usually fixed on the front of one of my Z bodies 😊
Thank you for your revue really enjoyed watching and have subscribed 👍🏼
Thanks. Sounds like you've got a cracking Z system setup there. 👍 And thank you so much for subscribing!
Great review Julian. I switched late last year from my D750 to a Z7ii, then in May this year I switched my travel camera from a Sony RX10 to a Z5 with the 24-200, precisely for the reasons you make in the video. On the one trip I have made so far, it works for me just great, I love the Z5/24-200 combination, although I have noticed the flare issue at times. All in all I think it's a very capable and flexible lens, and is perfect for my travel needs! .
Thanks Stephen. While it's not a perfect lens, it is still very capable, and I use it a lot. Good to know you are putting it to good use with the Z5. :-)
Great, timely video for me. I just bought this lens with my new Nikon Zf and am going to Yellowstone and the Grand Tetons next week, so your photo comparisons were very helpful. I really liked your prints and appreciate your preference in printing vs computer. Question...Im not that experienced with LRC; is there not a way to remove the lens flare in post? Thanks so much
Thanks, glad you found the video useful. Removing lens flare can be tricky and it depends how much there is and where. But AI has really improved the spot removal tools in LR, so you have a better chance these days. But as always, best to avoid it in the first place.
Great review mate. I think this 24-200 complements the 14-30, especially on long hikes. Probably you won’t need a third lens.
Thanks Khalid 👍 😀
Just got mine and feels it is perfect for family, travel light and similar. Quality better than expected, really. For lo light indoor I have some 1.8 primes.
Thanks for watching Gunnar. The quality of the these more reasonably priced Z lenses is very good. :-)
Great video, Julian. I appreciate your inclusion of the printed images. It's the bottom line for most photographers, but rarely shown in reviews. Nice job.
Thanks Gene, I appreciate you watching and for leaving a comment. Glad you liked the inclusion of the printed images...for me, the photographic process ends with a print. 👍😀
I am watching on RUclips on high definition on an IPad Pro …you do see the sharpness! Thanks for comparing !
Thanks for watching!
Glad to see the examples. I bought the 24-200 instead of the kit lens for its large range. I previously had an 18-270 on a D7200 and found it suited me as a walk around lens when travelling. Have to wait until Christmas before wringing it out, but really my wife wants us both to stay safe.
thanks Edward.....it's a tough decision to go out or not at the moment. Fortunately for me there are plenty of places on Dartmoor where you never see another person. Hope you get out soon and stay safe. :-)
Thanks Julian for this real world application look of the 24-200 lens. Definitely a good choice on a hike when lens changing on the move is not convenient.
Thank you for watching Philip! 😀👍 It's good to have a multi-purpose lens in the kit bag.
It seems perfect for quick-changing conditions in bright light, such as a day sailing.
It is a versatile lens. Thanks for watching. :-)
Thanks for a great overview. I purchased this lens as well and quite pleased with it.
Thanks for watching Kumar and great to hear you are happy with the lens. :-)
Great photographs of Dartmoor & interesting review. Pleased to see a fellow Devon photographer on here.
Thanks, and always nice to read a comment from a local photographer. :-)
I did notice a little better color rendition with the 24-70 F4. Right now that is the only Zed lens I own. I am disappointed with the flare issues with the 24-200. I shoot a lot of sunrises and sunsets. I did notice a bit of CA on a distant rock with the 24-200. It looks like it was removed but left that famous Lightroom silver halo. Excellent video. I am really considering the 14-30 F4 Zed. Thanks for your hard work.
Thanks, glad you like and appreciate the video. For the price point of the lens it does a pretty good job. I wouldn't be without my 24-70 f/4 though. The 14-30 f/4 is my favourite of the lot though. :-)
I had this lens for about a year but just could not get on with it. Although versatile and light I found the images to be not as good as those with the S lenses.
I eventually sold it and purchased the 24-120mm F4 which is so much better.
I have lost that 80mm focal length but having the 70-200 also I’m covered.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and lovely photographs.
Can I ask what printer you use, thank you.
Now subscribed to your channel
Hey Paul, firstly thanks for watching, and a big thank you for subscribing. Welcome to my channel. I now also have the 24-120 f/4 which has replaced both my 24-200 and 24-70. I have a video for the 24-120 if you are interested - ruclips.net/video/YkJrkQfdo1Q/видео.html Oh, and the printer I use is the Canon imagePROGRAF Pro-300, video here ruclips.net/video/QF3_JXuu_Ag/видео.html
@@jbairdexp thank you
I had this one too, I am very happy with it for traveling. It is not as good as the 24-70mm 2.8 and 70-200mm 2.8, but it is as good as the 24-70mm kit lens.
As long as you are happy with it, that's always the main thing. :-) Thanks for watching.
mate.. some of those images were stunning! so glad to see you print them!! might grab a copy lol.. this lens might have sold me a z7 haha.. great vid buddy
Mate, always a pleasure to read a comment from yourself. Welcome to the Z family. 👍
Thanks for the vlog Julian, it's great to have a real world review without things getting overly technical. Really appreciated the comparisons with the 24-70mm f4. Your prints look great.
The 'do everything' capabilities of the 24-200 are certainly worth serious consideration, I'm considering the Z 24-50mm f4-6.3 with my Z6 and nothing else (no tripod, filters etc) for serious mountain walks. The gear bag just gets heavier and heavier. I've recently upgraded to a serious tripod (Benro TMA38CL) having previously used an adequate travel tripod that was ok but had a tendency to get blown over in strong winds. Really enjoying the increased stabilty of the new tripod but there's a certain weight penalty. I notice you're using the GD3WH head, I use the same and love the ability to fine tune compositions. Another weight penalty though. Would love to hear your thoughts on that tripod head.
I'm still patiently waiting on my Z 70-200mm f2.8 as my telephoto zoom solution. Apart from landscapes it will be usable as a portrait lens, I regularly get badgered to take some shots of the grandkids. There's also the teleconverters, a 400mm reach is something to look forward to next year.
Cheers Richard, thanks for watching. Glad you liked my approach to the video. I think the choice of the 24-50 would also be a great choice for those super light kit bags days. Even the more budget friendly Z mount lenses are proving to deliver excellent image quality. It's one of the great things about this system. I love my Benro Geared Head. I wouldn't (normally) shoot landscapes without a geared head. I used to have the Manfrotto version, but the Benro is much lighter. I do have a ball head for when I really want to save weight, but it's normally a last resort to leave the geared head behind. There seems to be a big waiting list for the 70-200 f/2.8! And yes, those 1.4 and 2x teleconverters will make it even more versatile. Thanks again for watching.
One of the best reviews I‘ve seen so far!! Thank you so much 🙏🏻
Wow, thanks so much! Glad you liked it. :-)
Thanks for this video Julian - really helpful. One issue you didn't cover is weather sealing - I've had my 24-20 f/4 on my Z6 out in all sorts of weather with no problems at all. Will this 24-200 cope with Scottish rain?
Thanks Susan. Ah yes, good point, I didn't mention weather sealing. It is my understanding that it has weather sealing (not sure if it's as good as s-line weather sealing though). Would it cope with Scottish rain? Well, it wouldn't worry me. As I do with all my lenses though I always give them a quick dry before putting them in the bag, and another dry when I get back home.
@@jbairdexp Many thanks Julian. Off to try and source one now.
great images and review, I've got this lens after finding i was rarely taking my F mount 70-200 out due to weight. have to say the 24-200 has rarely been off my Z6 since getting it. brilliant all rounder lens
Same here Tanya....ditched the f mount 70-200 for this lens. Happy days. :-)
Interresting findings regarding the 24-200mm. I got mine a few days ago and have put it to use at Fulufjället national park in Sweden. I will look and see if flare is an issue on my images but as you also say I dont shoot that ofthen in to the sun. It is also kinda easy to deal with most of the time in post prossesing when shoting an extra frame blocking the sun. As you said the image quality in real life is on par with the 24-70.
Thanks Andreas. You might find no issues with flare....it all depends on what you are shooting. I just happened to notice that in specific scenarios, the 24-70 handled it better. Hope you got some cracking shots from Fulufjället! And thanks for watching. :-)
A solid alternative for the 24-105mm. Your demo images are stellar. I thoroughly enjoyed your video.
Thanks Rick, glad you enjoyed it. 👍
Great video, beautiful images! Would love to see Dartmoor someday. Only imagined it through the eyes of Charlotte Bronte and Jane Eyre.
Thanks Duane, I think you'd love Dartmoor and hopefully you'll be able to visit soon. :-) If you've got more time I have a Dartmoor playlist - ruclips.net/p/PLJU6FMi6Tvo-KuoU-UvOrL37vPULmv0Ny
My 24-200 came about a week ago. I have not really had time to try it out yet but did do some test shots and I found the results to be excellent. Appreciate the insight on lens flair. Of course, in many cases, you can edit lens flair out in post. It is certainly not a deal breaker as far as I'm concerned. I bought it for the same reasons you did--size and weight. Tired of carrying heavy camera gear.
Thanks Willard. Agree on the lens flare issue. I only mentioned to highlight the fact the S-Line 24-70 handles it better. A bit of shading or removal in post processing will fix most lens flare spots as you say. Nobody wants to carry heavy gear do they! 😀👍
Great video Julian, I have the same set up.
Can you tell me what printer you are using for your photo's please.
Thanks
Thanks Jim. :-) I think at the time of making that video I was using the Canon Pixma Pro-10S. I'm now using the Canon ImagePROGRAF Pro-300 which you can see my video on here ruclips.net/video/QF3_JXuu_Ag/видео.html
@@jbairdexp Thank you
Liked the video Julian.
Lovely images with both lenses and a good way of comparing each ones quality.
Thanks so much Tim, I really appreciate you taking the time to watch and leave a comment. 👍
Nice one Julian, great to see side-by-side comparisons from real life photo shoots. I had not appreciated the price difference until you drew attention to it - that is a BIG ouch for the S line version! I am still on good old F-mount and DSLR, so don't expect to be hammering the credit card just yet. Lovely light and well captured, as always. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Steve. You definitely pay a premium for the S-Line lenses but for some people that will be a price worth paying. They are a bit like the gold ring lenses on the F mount system. Thanks for your positive feedback. Cheers :-)
Great review and beautiful images. I would come here to shoot in the sunsets too. Such an amazing place
Glad you liked the video, thanks. :-)
Excellent vlog Julian. I currently have a Z6 with the 24-70 lens it came with. I am going to South Africa in November and am looking at the Z 24-200 for landscape shots. Would anyone be able to comment on suitability for wildlife photography?
Thanks
Glad you liked the video, thanks!
Great video and really helpful as i am looking to buy a Nikon z5 with this lens. Which lens do you think would be best as a second lens, the 14-24mm or 24/70mm?
Thanks Andrew, glad you found it helpful. As for your 2nd lens, well that all depends on what you shoot. For me, I wouldn't be without my 14-30mm f/4. :-)
That’s a superb focal range, everything in one lens - I had an 18-135 on a Fuji X-T1 and 90% of the time I could achieve what I wanted, it equates out to 24-200 on full-frame. My first thought was a hood might reduce the flare, but it would need to transition from a petal for the wide end to a cone for the long end, and wouldn’t have any effect when pointing straight at the sun. Flare does suit certain situations tho, and it doesn’t harm your shot.
Thanks for watching mate. Good point on using a hood. I almost always shoot with filters though so a hood is rarely an option. I think I have a pile of them in a drawer somewhere! lol But you are right, flare isn't always an issue for some shots. 😀
That’s equivalent to 27-200 not 24-200. I have been waiting for Fuji to come out with a 16-135, but no luck.
Very nice video! At 21:30ish, you see the comparison of the two in the prints and I wonder if the contrast is better with the 24-70? Is it just the processing or the difference in light at the time? I have the 24-200 and it's interesting......I have to look more closely to see differences in sharpness vs 24-70 f2.8S, but on the other hand the 24-200 images often look a little less lively overall. So I'm wondering if it's a contrast / colour issue or a microcontrast issue. Thanks, I've subscribed :)
Hey Richard, thanks for watching and big thanks for subscribing. I couldn't really tell the different in quality between the 24-70 f/4 and the 24-200. I'm sure if pixel peeped enough you might spot stuff, but for landscapes it's hard to tell. The 24-70 f2/.8 is a different beast though, but I don't own that lens so difficult for me comment. I now have the 24-120mm f/4 which is a great lens. :-)
@@jbairdexp If you look at your video at 21:30ish, the difference in contrast is quite obvious but perhaps that's simply how it looks on YT or a difference in the scene at the time. The 24-70 f2.8S is simply stunning. About as perfect as that zoom lens could be in my opinion. The 24-200 isn't terrible in terms of sharpness, but the image can look more dull than the 24-70 f2.8S. It's more obvious with closer objects (portraits) as the 2.8S is ridiculously good for a 24-70 2.8 zoom optic.
Love Dartmoor. Great picture of Widicombe. Can recommend The Rugglestone pub down in that valley :-)
Cheers Barry, always looking for a good pub....and my recommendation back to you is to try Ullacombe Farm (on the hill up to Haytor from Bovey side)....went there on Sunday for breakfast and it was bloody brilliant! :-)
@@jbairdexp Thanks Julian. Haven't tried that one. Will put it on my list.
Hi Julian this is a great review thank you. I’m seriously considering this lens for my Z7 mainly because of the versatility when out shooting landscapes. I have missed so many shots due to lens changes and putting on filters. I would be interested to hear your views on the NISI close up lens when you have tested it. I also have the 24-70 F4 and 70-200 F4 which serve me well. I will keep the 70-200 though as I also use it with a D500. Keep up the fantastic work.
Thank you David, great to hear you found the video useful. I haven't had much use for the NISI close up filter yet, but I hope to be putting it to good use this autumn for some close up shots. Thank you for watching! 👍👍
Julian, you confirmed my sentiments with the 24-200 for landscape work. I was shooting with the 24-70 f/4 Z and the 70-200 afs f/4 with the FTZ and it works well. But size and weight is another story... I tried a 28-300 for a while on my D800 but is was just too large and heavy for run-and-gun. Now I've got something that won't stay at home or in the car while traveling! BTW, nice landscape work in your presentation!
Thanks Larry, I appreciate you watching and for leaving a comment. As you say no point in having a lens you will just leave at home or in the car is there. :-)
I liked your vertical sunrise picture with the heather in the foreground. - and also the one you printed big.
Interesting lens. The less equipment you need to carry, the the lower is the threshold to get out and use it - and the more (good) pictures are captured.
Thanks so much Arne. I totally agree with you....the less equipment you carry to more likely you are to get the camera out. :-)
Is that the top of Sharpitor? Going through your back catalogue of videos, enjoying every single one. Looking at getting this lens now, to replace my F mount, adapted Sigma 60-600mm lens. Would this be a viable alternative with cropping do you reckon?
Hi, great to read you are going through my videos. Thank you and I hope you enjoy. The photographs in this video are taken around the Haytor area (Rippon Tor and Chinkwell Tor) so it's probably not Sharpitor you are seeing. I wouldn't think that the 24-200 is a replacement for your 60-600 though.....that's a fair gap between 200mm and 600mm. Too much even for a crop. Perhaps the Tamron 150-500 would be better choice?
@@jbairdexp Thanks for the reply, it's appreciated. I bought the Sigma 600mm for my D5, now sold. I'm gravitating more towards landscape stuff now. Evolving in what I do. As a former resident of the southern edge of Dartmoor, or near enough, I really miss it. Living in a foreign area, West Sussex, it''s not the same. The zoom to that level isn't needed as much now. Inconsiderate wildlife moves too much for me.. F mount stuff, you can't focus shift in the Z cameras either. So really, this lens for everyday use is the better option I think. Thanks for the location details too. I never realised how lucky I was, where I lived, until I see videos like your own. Maybe one day I'll get back there.
@@janneroz-photographyonabudget If you are more into landscapes these days, try the 24-120 - ruclips.net/video/YkJrkQfdo1Q/видео.html And you might also be interested in my Dartmoor video series - ruclips.net/video/0W8zqGVVWVA/видео.html
@@jbairdexp Thanks, on episode one at this very moment! I'll check that lens out too. I have the Viltrox 24mm f/1.8 arriving tomorrow. It replaces the F mount 20mm F/1.8 I sold at the weekend, immense lens, but I need to go Z mount, for the focus stacking.
@@janneroz-photographyonabudget The Viltrox lenses are very good for their price. You'll like the 24mm f/1.8. 🙂
Hi Julian , many thanks for yet another great vlog, could I just ask what method of focusing u used ? , eg a third into the scene? Or focus stacking? Many thanks Kev
Hey Kevin, thanks for watching. All the photos in that video were taken by focusing roughly a third of a way into the scene. I do use Focus Stacking on occasion, but not for these images. Cheers :-)
I’m awaiting delivery of the Nikon z7 II and very much considering the Z 24-200 hence my interest (Henry Turner had suggested your video review).
You noted it is not auto focus and it would require in camera for this ~ I’m not quite understanding this point so can you please explain how?
I normally hand hold for my panoramic images and generally catch it ok. But you mention the “panoramic head”? Can you possibly say where you can get such please
Thanks for watching.... a Z7 II, very exciting. The lens does AF but it doesn't have VR (Vibration Reduction). Not a problem for the Z7 II as the body has VR built it. YEs, I did say panoramic head didn't I...what I actually meant was my levelling head which allows me to capture panoramas more easily. It's one like this - amzn.to/2V9CJSu - though I am currently testing a new geared head which has a levelling head built it....expect a video on that soon. :-)
@@jbairdexp excited as a child on Christmas morning (and I am not young 😜) for Z7 II indeed.
I’ve tried tripod mounting my D850 (about to be sold) , levelling off with bubble, and taking my images (bracketing all on occasions ~ a Henry Turner idea) which works sometimes for me; but I prefer hand held with back button focusing). Then Lr / Ps post. I’ll await you next video on this new bit of kit re levelling before a purchase > thanks for your help .
While I could go and buy a Z24-120mm (for more money) but I have one from FX and my D750. I have a Z5 now and use mostly on travel so Z24-200mm is likely perfect for the extra zoom. Thanks for your review.
Thank you for watching! :-)
Very useful and practical review, thanks!
I'm sure that somebody else will shoot the test charts for more detailed comparisons, test vignetting, etc.
It was nice to see a real world picture quality comparison for a change, and beautiful photos too!
Thanks Tim, I appreciate you watching and for leaving a comment. Ricci Talks does some excellent detailed analysis of the lenses - worth watching - ruclips.net/video/m7AkjAP1IMM/видео.html
@@jbairdexp Yeah I've watched a few of his videos.
I think I'll do some comparisons also on "The Digital Picture", although they don't have full detailed reviews of Nikon lenses they can be compared on technical aspects on that site: www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Nikon-Zoom-Lens-Reviews.aspx
BTW -- yesterday I looked at this lens in an online shop, because when upgrading to a Nikon FF eventually I'd like a zoomlens with a bit more reach than the 24-70mm.
This morning your review is at the top of my list when I open RUclips.
Coincidence??
Or thanks to our all-knowing advertising overlords?
Our advertising overlords know far too much! lol
Nice review Julian, as always I like the part on printing, I'm on the fence a wee bit as I have the Z7 with 24-70 S lens, but will probably end up buying the 24-200 and then use it 90% of the time, thanks again for getting out there.
Cheers Trevor, thanks for watching and glad you appreciate the printing element of the video! 👍 Always happy to get out there and share my experiences. 😀
Hi Julian, enjoyed the video, thank you. Im fairly new to photography and currently using Nikon z50 (crop sensor) and im looking at either getting 24-200 or 24-70 f4. Both have thir pro's and cons, I will mainly be doing landscapes but would like to practice some portraiture too. What would you recommend?
Hey Jack, glad you liked it. Just to make your life a little more difficult, you could also consider the new 24-120 f/4 (ruclips.net/video/YkJrkQfdo1Q/видео.html) This is a good balance between the focal length of the 24-200 and the additional features that you find on a lens like the 24-70 f/4. Any three of those lenses will be great for landscapes though. For portraits though, I'd stick with the f/4 lenses. However, you could instead buy a relatively inexpensive fast prime lens for practising your portraits. Viltrox do a range of fast primes ( a few of which I own - ruclips.net/p/PLJU6FMi6Tvo-qIkdawLPkyyV8zfm2dQlS ). They have will give you the shallow depth of field that people like in portraits (which you can't always get with an f/4), and they also support eye AF which is very handy at f/1.8! So if budget stretches, I'd get one of those f/4 lenses for your landscapes, and Viltrox for portaits.
I loved the video, very helpful. I do have a question, on the image at 17:04 min. the colour temperature looks different? The 24-200 looked warmer vs. a bluer tone of the 24-70..... Do you think this is due to the coatings, or lack of?
Thanks Michael, glad you found the video useful. I looked back in LR, and I've processed the files with slightly different white balances. Nothing to do with the lenses themselves :-)
Have you ever had any issues with purple fringing? Saw on one review where it seems to be there on harsh contrast of dark edges against bright background, it's making me lean towards the 24-120 f4, as I like shooting sunsets directly into the sun with various foreground, even though I'd like the extra reach of the 24-200, thanks
Hi, not that I've noticed but if you do shoot into the sun a lot the 24-120 f/4 will be a better choice due to the coatings found on an S-line lens.
I've seen many reviews and there seems pretty bad fringing on both this lens and the tamron 28-200.
I don't think there's any way around it apart from fixing in lightroom or something.
Did you try using a filter on the 24-200mm lens to see if you can remove the lens flare?
Can't say I have Randall. Generally the more glass you put on the worse the flare can get. I'll typically just work around the problem. :-)
Pretty excited for this! I just purchased for the foliage in new england 🙏
Good man. Hope you get some cracking images with it! 👍
Thanks for sharing the look at the lens Julian. I agree with you, if I had this lens it would be for 2 reasons. The weight reduction in my backpack and I'd only use for something like a focal range of 50-200mm. Combined with the 14-30mm F4 it'd make for a light weight versatile bit of kit. Cheers 🙏👍
Hey Adrian, thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment. It's good to see the Z mount lens line up being flushed out and we now have some good options when we want to be more versatile. Cheers. 👍😀
I have the 14-30 and the 24-70 f4 Z mount lenses and love them. I use the 70-200 F4 f mount lens and have found it balances nicely on my Z6 and it’s nice to have a constant aperture. I’ll probably wait to see what the 24-105 provides when considering a longer focal length for the camera.
Thanks for watching Eric. I think if I'd maybe had the 70-200 f/4 F mount rather than the f/2.8 version I might have done the same as you. It will be interesting to see the price of the 24-105 and the 100-400. In the mean time, I think the 24-200 fits the longer end of my focal length requirements nicely. Cheers 😀👍
@@jbairdexp This is exactly my quandary. I have the same lenses as Eric with my Z6. Plus the 28-300. If I go with the 24-200, the 28-300 definitely goes. Too few of my pics are over 200mm. It seems as though the 24-200 matches up more than nicely with the 24-70. So, I thought I would sell it and not look back. Again, second thoughts because I enjoy the walk around with the 24-70. I'm really just waiting to hear from enough people that I will not miss the 24-70. Next up..70-200 f/4? Of course many have said to just keep them all. I don't like to leave good lenses gathering dust. Better to be in the hands of those who will use them. #undecided.
@@K4783 Tricky one for sure! It's good thought that the Z lens line up is finally expanded and that we have these problems!
Great great video......i am purchasing the Nikon Z 7 2 and the 24 to 200 tomorrow...... i am selling all my heavy duty 24 to 70 2.8 14 to 24 2.8 an the 80 to 400.........getting too heavy with the D 800. i do mostly fun travel photography getting too old to carry heavy stuff.....Am I doing the right thing!!!!!! thank you. George
Congratulations on a fine purchase George. I came from the amazing D850, but I welcomed the weight savings that the Z system brought. I do not regret my buying decision. I'm sure you'll love your Z system as well. How exciting!!
Excellent comprehensive video. Well done.
Thank you so much. 👍
Those images even on RUclips look awesome & pin sharp... Many Thanks for doing the comparison as i
being a Nikon shooter myself I have contemplating an upgrade from APS-C to a full frame mirrorless. I have been looking at the Z6/Z7, probably opting for the Z6 with its lesser megapixels & smaller file size as I don't feel I need or want to deal with the large file sizes of the Z7?? Also the slightly better low light capability & better Video capability. of the Z6 appeals. But then I hear there might be an imminent upgrade release (Z6s /Z7s or Z8/Z9 whoever you care to believe) with an articulating screen, two card slots & other updates... so I am now in a holding pattern to see if the upgrade comes & if so, is it worth the extra cash or can I make do with the Z6 at hopefully a reduced bargain price!! Just wondering if you have regretted upgrading from the DSLR & D850 to the Mirrorless Z7 system & what your Pros & Cons would be of each??
I am liking the 24-70mm Z lens you have been shooting with & feel what ver camera I eventually plump for, I will definitely be getting that lens. I also have some vintage glass I use with some Nikon film cameras that I want to to have a go shooting with on a modern mirrorless camera so I am going to have to make use of the adapter.
Again thank you for the Vlog & your time & effort. Best Wishes David
Thanks David, I appreciate you watching and for taking the time to leave a comment. You might find my Z7 video interesting - ruclips.net/video/csrV12tyUH8/видео.html - The main reason I went Z7 over Z6 is that the Z7 shoots at ISO 64 which I find beneficial for landscapes. Yes, I've also heard those rumours about new cameras. Waiting a few months might mean you could pick up a good used Z6 or Z7, or you can pay the premium for the latest model (depends on what you need and the size of your wallet). Do I regret moving from the D850....nope, not for a minute. I cover a couple of my niggles with the camera in my video, but even some of those have gone or I've changed my workflow. I would never go back to a DSLR now. For me, all the benefits are with the mirrorless system. Hope this helps, but please ask additional questions if you like. Cheers Julian
@@jbairdexp Many thanks for your response it helps along with the vlog. I am definitely going to go mirrorless its just when & with what Nikon offering & agree cost is likely to play a part dependant on specs / cost of new model(s) if they materialise... Enjoying the vlogs & the scenery. I am hoping to return to beautiful Cornwall / Devon in the not too distant future when the world returns to a more mode as I love that part of the world.... Especially fond of The Lizard.
Cheers Again. Regards David
No worries David, happy to help. I hope you get back to the south west soon. All the best, Julian :-)
Instead of a close up ring is it worthwhile using the Z7 to swap to DX mode giving you 300mm? Do you think you would have ended up with a similar outcome or is a close up ring essential kit?
Hi, using up close up ring isn't quiet the same as cropping/DX mode. Nothing probably beats a dedicated macro lens, but if you do want to dabble in macro, they are a great choice. Not essential kit though.
@@jbairdexp Fair enough - thanks for the reply. I saw reviews where it was said 2 lens was preferable to 1 no doubt the price would reflect that. Interesting for a consumer grade guy, seems a good way to go. Thanks again.
Very good review for me as a landscape photographer. Actually thinking about switching from Nikon d5200 (with among others) my 18-200mm vr dx, to a Nikon Z5 and a 24-200mm.
Helps a lot for my choice, especially you shooting the higher apertures for depth of field.
Do you think this 24-200 is sharper as your old 18-200?
Of course there is a lot of age difference...
Also would like to know if you have experience with the FTZ adapter for older?3 party lenses...
thanks!
Hi Jan, glad you found the video useful. I expect you'll find all the Z lenses to be sharper than their F mount equivalents. I'd be surprised if you didn't see a decent jump in image quality with the Z5 and 24-200. The new 24-120 f/4 Z lens is also worth considering. I've never used the FTZ adapter, but I've not heard any complaints about it. :-)
@@jbairdexp thanks!
Choosing for the 24-120 would mean also to buy a 70-200. A lot of weight difference, but for sure a lot of money difference. Don't know or the extra quality justifies this
@@janroos7518 Well if you need the extra reach and don't need the f/2.8 then the 24-200 would probably be the better option. :-)
@@jbairdexp i agree! Don't need the 2.8. Will use is mostly for landscapes, abstracts and some close-ups and still-life. Rather spend my money on the 14-30mm z lense for the wide angle landscapes. And maybe the 105mm micro. I am a fanatic (butterfly) macro shooter too. (But maybe my 105mm sigma on a ftz adapter is good too. Some investigations to do....😉
The quality & sharpness of this non-S lens is amazing. With F-mount, I got away from do-everything lenses, but this Z lens has me reconsidering.
Beautiful images & thanks for the vid - new sub here! :)
Thanks Craig, and welcome to my channel. 😀 These Z mount lenses are proving to be an excellent choice across the range.
Thanks for the details on this lens Julian. I watched your video a couple months ago while I was still researching the Z7 and the 14-30/24-70 S lenses. I just got all three pieces of kit a week ago. After reviewing the new 70-200 2.8, I was astonished at the size of it. It's bigger than my current Nikon 70-200 2.8 f-mount! I just viewed your video again. In reading other reviews and user forums, there are a lot of parallels with your observations. Given that I'm also trying to keep my full-frame landscape kit small, this lens seems like a logical choice despite some of the trade-offs you mentioned for landscape photography. I can always attach the 2.8 f-mount if I need to. I do have two questions now that you've had more time with the lens since your original video:
1) are there any additional observations on IQ, handling, etc that you would add to the video?
2) is there a way of turning VR off on the lens? Is it always "on" and how does it work with the z7's IBIS?
Thanks again for the informative video. I'll probably have one in hand soon!
Miguel
Hey Miguel, congrats on joining the Nikon Z family! 👍 Not much to add on the video really. I spent a full day in Welsh mountains with the lens recently and it performed well, and I had no issues with the image quality. In terms of being able to capture landscape photographs I'm really happy with it. It was great having a lens with a wide ranging focal length to carry about. Generally speaking though, I'm still using my 24-70 more, but that's more to do with the types of landscape photograph I take. I tend to shoot wider and I did buy the 24-200 to cover the longer focal lengths (which I shoot less often). VR? No idea! I very rarely (if at all) use the camera hand held. I'm almost always on a tripod and so VR on the camera is turned off. I would imagine that if VR is off on the camera it will also be off on the lens. Hope this helps!
@@jbairdexp Thanks so much for the detailed response. Glad to know it continues to do well. Yes, 24-70 and tripod are usually what I use as well. Like you the 24-200 will cover the longer end for me. However, I do tend to take some hand held images with the 70-200 (equivalent) on my Olympus EM-1 kit - so the IBIS comes in handy. I'm looking forward to adding this lens in the near future. Your input again is much appreciated. Keep up the good work!
@@MiguelACoronaDM No worries and thanks for watching and being part of the community. :-)
VR is turned off/on using the i menu option (if you have it added the the i menu). There is no lens switch this time, but nor do the other Z lenses have them.
Another great video, thank you. I am eagerly awaiting the arrival of my 24-200. I also love to see the printed image, even when there is no wall space left in my house. I would be interested to know which printer you use ?
Thanks for watching Mark and I appreciate you taking the time to leave a comment. I use a Canon Pixma Pro-10S. I've got a few printing videos if you're interested -ruclips.net/p/PLJU6FMi6Tvo_kuUIioDAagRJ6zsvo1X3P
Thank you Julian - will take a look !
Fantastic video, thanks so much for that!
Glad you liked it! :-)
Hi Julian, thanks for the review. As you mentioned the lens is susceptible to flare at times, what’s your thoughts on using a uv nano coated filter on the front.
Thanks for watching Bryan. The only filters I use in front of my lens are ND grads, NDs and polariser. I don't use UV filters etc. With this lens, if I can't shade the lens with my hand to remove the flare, I will just opt to remove it in post processing. 👍
Greetings from Ireland and thanks for this great breakdown of the lens, subbed! As someone who is buying into the Z system very soon, this lens is what I intend to purchase alongside a preowned Z6 (foregoing the kit 24-70).
It's perfect for an all in one lens for 'travel', and as a hobbyist with a planned photography trip to Japan in spring (COVID permitting), it would cover that 70-200 focal length that I would miss with the kit 24-70mm. This lens paired with a couple of 1.8 primes for low light/night street photography is all I would need.
Hello Ireland and thanks for watching. Your future kit sounds like a stellar setup. I really hope you make it to Japan....fingers crossed for you! 😀😀
Thank you, I just discovered your channel. Awesome review!
Thank you for watching Eric and welcome to my channel :-)
Hi, I always shot with a D3400, now thinking about finally upgrading and grabbing a Z6II. It will be a huge improvement, at least I hope it will be. Now I'm thinking about which kit I should buy. I can buy the kit with 24-200 for €800 extra or the 24-70 f/4 for €600 extra. I'd love the range of a 24-200, but it's a little more expensive in the kit and have seen that the 24-70 is slightly better. Also I've had lens flare ruining my shots in the past with the 18-55 (although that lens is maybe still miles behind the 24-200 in optical quality), but the 24-200 being more susceptible to lens flare is something I'm a bit afraid of. I think I'll still grab the 24-70, because it's cheaper, it still is a nice range and it is slightly better. Curious what's your or others advice?
Hey Simon, you'll notice a significant difference in image quality and functions going from the D3400 to the Z6 II. You'll love it I'm sure. Lens choice is a hard one to comment on because everyone has slightly different requirements. However, I doubt you'll ever regret getting the 24-70 f/4. It's a cracking lens. 👍
@@jbairdexp thank you for your answer! I think I'll buy the 24-70 f/4s :)
Very good. It certainly does measure up to what you need. I would have been very reluctant. At one time I had a lens that did not measure and that made me cautious. You did what I did not, research and prepare. I think the Z products have turned about to be excellent. I have the Z 7 and a few lenses. Impressed from the beginning.
Thanks Glen, always nice to see a comment from you. With each new product in the Z system the overall solution gets better. The quality of even the more reasonably priced products is great. I've never looked back!
Congrats !! Very usefull information!
Thank you for watching! :-)
I have heard that the focal ring on the lens over rides AF to manually focus. Do not know if that is true. Also, unless a new one has come out, the 20-200 does not have a tele-converter 1*4 2* that fits it?
When the Z9 comes out to replace the D6 they must release a 400mm and more lens or why release a Z9?
Not that I use the focus ring that much but as far as I've seen it behaves on the 24-200 in the same way as it does with any other Nikkor lens. And correct, there is no tele-converter for this lens. The current Z teleconverters work with the 70-200 f/2.8. The type of people that would buy a Z9 are the type of people that need a fast 400, so it would make sense for Nikon to make those types of lenses available when the camera comes out. :-)
When you zoomed in to show the lens flare, I noticed that the 24-70mm S line F4 lens is a tiny bit sharper but the difference is negligible. I’m just wondering if there would be a noticeable difference in sharpness if you compare the 24-200mm lens to 24-70mm S line F2.8 lens.
Hi, I don't have the 24-70mm f/2.8 to compare it with but given that it is an s-line lens and it's considerably more expensive, I expect there will be some differences in image quality. The question is, will you notice and does it matter for your photography and the way people view your images. :-)
Great insight to the lens mate, I tend to shoot into the sun and have noticed a dramatic improvement with the 14-30Z and 24-70Z compared to my F mount glass. I'm still on the fence with which way to go for the extra focal length and currently using the Z 50-250 DX lens on my Z7 but at the expense of the megapixels.
Keep up the good work Julian.
Thanks so much Adam. 😀👍 It would be interesting to know how it compares to the 50-250DX. Aside from the loss in megapixels I would expect the results to be similar....these Z lenses (even the more budget friendly ones) seem to perform very well across the range.
Hi Julian - You still recommend this lens? I have the z 24-70 F4 and z35 1.8 but looking at the 70-200 or 24-200?
Hey mate, yeah I still recommend this lens. But I only use it for landscapes so it suits me well. The 24-200 and the 70-200 are very different lenses, so which one you select will depend on what you are going to shoot (and how deep your pockets are). :-)
Great video... I would like to ask you, how maximum aperture changes against zoom focal length, please?
Thanks, glad you liked the video. To answer your question check out the video at this point 01:39 👍
@@jbairdexp LOL...I just didn't pay attention to that short presentation, sorry...thanks for pointing to it!
@@DjCjFoto lol, no worries mate! It's easy to miss! :-)
I only have the 24-70mm F4. I mainly shoot landscape but I can't decide what lens to get next. The 14-30 F4 or this 24-200 for the reach. Shame they don't have an F4 70-200 as the 2.8 is way too expensive for me
I agree it's a shame there isn't a 70-200 f/4 yet. There is a 100-400mm coming, but I think that might be rather expensive. I also have the 14-30 and it is a brilliant lens. If you tend to shoot wide for your landscapes, that's the lens to get. :-)
@@jbairdexp I expect the 100-400 to be rather expensive as well haha. I am torn between getting the 14-30 or the 24-200 for the telephoto. I know eventually o want the 14-30 and a telephoto but I cannot decide what to make my second lens lol
@@MaxDamage182 For me it's an easy decision as I shoot wide a LOT more than I shoot tight. Have a look at your images and see how often you shoot above 70mm and how often you shoot wider than 24mm. :-)
Hi. I'm just thinking of buying Nikon Z6. And I am faced with a choice. Buy a kit with 24-70 f4 or only body and 24-200 ? What would you advise me as an amateur photographer ? Thanks.
Hey, thanks for watching. I think it all depends on what you are going to shoot with your Z6. If you are planning on just shooting landscapes then the 24-200mm is a great choice.
Great video 🙌👌
Thank you! :-)
Interesting video, and it may change what lens I plan to buy next. It's going to be a tough choice between the 70-200 S line and this one, and the weight saving may be a huge factor.
Thanks for watching. Tough choice indeed. I think if you have the need for the f/2.8 aperture and have the budget the decision is made for you. They might have similar focal lengths but they serve different purposes (and budgets!). :-)
Tempted to get rid of my 24-70, and get the 24-200.
Tough one that. The 24-70 is an excellent lens.... 🤔
Nice. Means you can do outdoors, hikes etc with two lenses 👍🏻
Thanks for watching Pete and your absolutely correct. :-)
@@jbairdexp this is what I do to be honest, with a fuji 55-200 and a 12mm. Between them, my bases are covered for landscape. I know there is a gap in the middle but it's honestly not bothered me so far. I'd rather be light and not dragged down by kit than fully loaded. I have the full range but if I'm hiking, I'd rather not take it all.
Lovely shots, reminds me of my 10 tours and DofE days 😊
Exactly. And to be honest, depending on where I was going I'd now even be tempted to leave the 14-30 behind, and go just with 24-200. It's good to have options isn't it!😀
@@jbairdexp definitely, I'd not want to feel I was lacking something in the arsenal 👍🏻
Great stuff! I'm really keen in getting this lens and not so keen on pixel peeping so thanks a lot for this review.
This one or if there is a 70-300 planned.
Thanks! Glad you appreciated the more practical approach to looking at this lens. :-)
Hi firstly thanks for the video! I’ve had the Z6 for about 8 months now which I bought with the 24-70 lens and F2Z adaptor so I can use my old lenses, I have the 18-200 which was always my go to lens on my DSLR especially for travel but I’m seriously considering getting the 24-200 mainly so I don’t have to keep changing lenses whilst out and about exposing the sensor. Can you tell me if there would be any other benefits in choosing this lens over my old 18-200? Thanks in advance for any guidance you can give
Hey Ian, thanks for watching and great choice with getting the Z6. There are two main reasons for moving to the 24-200 from the 18-200. Firstly, the 18-200 is a DX (crop) lens so you won't be making the most of your full frame sensor. The 2nd reason is that the Z lenses are optically superior to most F mount equivalent lenses and are designed to work with the Z bodies. The 18-200 is an old lens (it was the first lens I bought for my D80) so the quality of the optics in the 24-200 will be light years ahead and will produce superior results on your Z6. IMHO, it's a no brainer.....I don't often say that, but in this case if you have the budget you won't regret it.
@@jbairdexp thanks so much for the quick reply I really appreciate it. You’ve sort of made up my mind, I might have to start trading in my old gear 😂 as I’d really like the 14-30 too. Can I just add the image of the sun over the moor was fantastic 👏👏
@@ianmcdonald9885 The 14-30 is my go to lens for landscapes. Love it. :-) Trading in is a good way to fund new gear....I do it a lot. :-)
Most phones today have quad HD screen, and some have 4k 😉 so we get the details 💪
True, but RUclips also compresses the video so it will never be as good as looking at it on a computer monitor. :-)
Have you tried anything else than landscapephotography with this lens? Wildlife, street or travel? Looking for motivation ideas for my lens 😊 living in flat Denmark and don't have options to go out of town 😬
Hi, I'm afraid landscapes is about all I photograph. So not tried it for wildlife, street or travel. Sorry. Thanks for watching. :-)
It is always said that gear does not matter, but still there is always talk of new stuff or what to use!
Gear does matter, but not always in the way that most people talk about it. :-)
Hi Julian: are you using any of your old F mount lenses with the FTZ adapter?
Hey Paul, no, all my lenses are native Z mount.
@@jbairdexp OK but boo hoo.......:-( I just caught this video and I am using the F mount 28-300 f3.5-5.6 which I wish I had last year when I went to Vietnam. It would have meant a lot FEWER lens changes from my primes to the 70-300 VR I was using then. I found the 28-300 to be a great every day walking around lens since then.
@@jbairdexp Will you be upgrading to the Z6II or Z7II anytime soon? After all, they are the cameras NIKON should have released in the first place.......
I totally agree that the Z 7 II is the camera they should have released in the first place. Am I upgrading though? I'm on the fence, but probably not. There are a couple of nice to have features that I like, but it's not compelling enough for me as a landscape photographer to justify dropping all that cash to get a few minor upgrades. I'm not saying I won't, but at the moment I see myself waiting till later in 2021 to see if a Z8/Z9 comes along.
@@jbairdexp The Z9 has been announced for 2021 at least that's what Nikon put out.........
I had the 24-200 first (one lens range winner, 6.3 at 70mm though, and a tad bulky for hiking IMO.) Then got the 24-70f4S 1/2 MSRP used open-box (IQ/indoor winner, and it feels faster) Then got the 24-50 used open-box (compact winner only to be used at 24mm!) I still can't pick which one/one's I could do without!
Then we'll have the 24-105f#S to consider. I kind of wish they had released the 24-105 first! It is going to be larger than the 24-70, likely cost more (if IQ matches the 24-70,) unless it has variable aperture (would need to be 2.8 wide.)
The design limitations of the Z mount require a longer lens. So we're not seeing the benefits of the mount. A DSLR rig with a kit lens is only 1" longer and about the same weight of a Z6II rig.
HOWEVER, the more I use the other Z5/Z7/Z6II cameras and DSLR's (D750/D500/D780) the more impressed I am with my Z50 and it's kit lenses/cost/value. SERIOUSLY impressive SOOC JPG's.
PS Other than the obvious benefits of FF regarding OOF/Bokeh, IBIS, and 1 stop advantage. I can easily work around those issues for 1/4 the investment!
It's good to have the choice. :-)
@@jbairdexp UPDATE: I've decided that the less expensive Z lenses are good enough for my use. I'll keep my 16-50, 24-70f4S, and add the 50-250mm and 20f1.8G used. I can make them work with additional lighting. Lightened up my bag, filled my wallet back up, and the Z50 is a bit easier to stabilize (monopod/tripod/etc.) compared to the others.
Lovely shots but I love the mounts you've used , do you purchase them or cut them yourself if you purchase a like would be nice. Thanks Julian
Thanks Andy. I purchase all my mounts from here: www.pictureframesexpress.co.uk/picture-mounts/
A terrific practical review. Is there a conflict with the lens VR when using a tripod? My understanding is that you should switch off this feature under this circumstance. I don’t believe that you can do this with this lens.
Thanks Paul. There is no VR switch on this lens so you can turn it off and on through the camera menu system (which you can set a item in the "i" menu for). I don't use VR so it's off on my camera all the time so I don't consider the tripod situation. I believe this was an issue with early VR implementations and you needed to switch it off when on a tripod. I don't think it matters any more though and you can leave it on, but I could be wrong.
Interesting read this though - www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4499964 - it seems that the Z camera manual indicates that they recommend you turn of VR when on a tripod.
Thanks Julian. I always have IBIS switched off when I mount my Z7 on a tripod. Lens VR is something that can be used in conjunction with IBIS but I am presuming that if IBIS is switched off in the camera settings then lens VR is also? It’s all a bit confusing!
@@paulroberson7113 They work together now, so VR is on or off. You can't have it turned on for the lens but switched off for the camera (and vice versa). So when you turn VR on in the menu, it turns it on for both the camera and lens.
Thanks for you help, I appreciate it. Looks like I might be giving serious thought to this lens now!
Hi. Henry Turner recommended you. It was a good call.
Welcome Philip!!! I hope you enjoy my channel and thank you Henry for pointing you in my direction.
Please show us your premiere pro video exporting settings please.
Sorry, what have my export settings got to do with this video?
@@jbairdexp you videos have good quality even in 240fps in RUclips so , if you share your video exporting settings for uploading RUclips and for clients , it will be a great information for me and a lots of content creators
@@MEandBO_official Oh I see. I just use the RUclips 2160p 4K Ultra HD preset. :-)
@@jbairdexp not any specific customised bit rates?
@@jbairdexp thanks bro
Really informative - thanks very much. Do you have any experience of using the 24-200 for long-exposure work? I struggle with my 70-200 on my D810.
Thanks. Yeah, the image in this video was a long exposure with the 24-200 - ruclips.net/video/hFBVNE022T4/видео.html
Just one little nitpick, as it makes little sense to me to shoot at 400 ISO in order to have a faster shutter and at the same time shooting with a neutral density filter and polarizing filter and then noting that your image has more noise. In addition, shooting with filters does not give a natural view of a lens when attempting to evaluate performance. Flare and ghosting is also influenced by the amount of glass one piles on in front of the lens.
To be fair, it's a neutral density graduated filter which I use to balance the exposure between the sky and the ground. Even if I hadn't used it, I still would have used the same exposure settings for the ground (as this is the area I exposed for). I agree a polariser does reduce the amount of light coming into the camera, but that's not why I used. While I agree that filters can influence flare and ghosting, I mentioned it only to compare it with the 24-70 S, which with the same filter configuration does not have the same issues with flare.
I just bought this lens, I am not selling my 24-70 f/4 S though. I just hope Nikon fill the void and release a 70-200 f/4 S Z soon, to complement my 14-30 and 24-70 f4 S.
I'm not hopeful for the 70-200 f/4 as it's not even on the roadmap. They've just got the 24-120mm f/4 out though. :-)
Julian.. Great video... A lot photographers think they need an F2.8 or greater. As you pointed out not needed really needed for landscape. Like you mentioned t he only reasons why I have F2.8 or greater is for fast action sport, wildlife and sometimes product photography with photo stacking.
Thanks Peter. 😀 Exactly, generally speaking no need for f/2.8 glass for landscapes. I've owned f/2.8 glass before and while I used it for landscapes, that wasn't the reason I had f/2.8 glass at the time....I was shooting a lot of gigs and concerts so needed the fast aperture. Most of my photography is a bit more sedate these days! Thanks again for watching and taking the time to leave a comment.
One critical aspect that the Nikon Z 24-200mm will fall flat for landscape photography is its lack of weather sealing. Not for me.
Fair enough. :-)
At first sight the 24-200 is a tempting choice for landscape photography: Relatively small and light, with a very useful reach from wideangle to tele. But there are two serious drawbacks: First it is slow - already at 50mm you get only F5.6, and at 70mm you are already at F6.0 - instead of F4.0 with the excellent Z 24-70 S F4.0. But even more critical is the not optimal coating, so if you shoot in direction of the sun, having it in the frame or near the frame, you will have flares, and a reduction of contrast almost everywhere in the image. That is why I will not buy this lens (I often shoot in backlight situations). Instead I am awaiting the Z 24-105mm S F4.0 (?) to come 2022, I hope ...
Thanks for watching Markus and for taking the time to leave a comment. In terms of the variable aperture, given that I don't shoot landscapes wider than f/8, I don't personally see that as a problem. However, that might not be the same for everyone. I agree though that by not having the nano-coating it reduces its performance when dealing with direct light. But again, it will all depend on the types of images you shoot. Hopefully the 24-105 will be just around the corner. I could see myself replacing my 24-70 with this lens, and perhaps getting the 100-400mm (if it's not too expensive). Either way, it's good to have options because as you've pointed out, no one lens suits everybody :-)
@@jbairdexp I agree with most points you make. But even in landscape photography, although I also often shoot at f/8 and f/11, there are dawn- and dusk situations I am happy to have f/4 at hand. The 24-105mm is on the Nikon Z- roadmap - it could become my bread-and-butter lens for landscape. But I do not think it will completely replace my 24-70 f/4, which is so handy and gives me excellent image quality. The 100-400 is on my priority-list as well.
Kind regards from Switzerland