I would bump jorm and tiandi up, and move centurion and warlord down. Jorm and tiandi deserve A simply for the crazy survival their feats give them. Jorm can chain shields with revenge shield bug, and Tiandi life steal and shield when low hp makes him great for solo carries
Shaolin's qi trap is just misunderstood. It's main purpose isn't to see where the enemy is going like most people think. It's to lock on around corners and through floors. For example, your pirate teammate can start the unblockable heavy before the ops see them while locked on. It's supposed to be symbiotic with shaolins t2 teleport, and basically any feat that just needs a lock on. I think Qi trap can result in more damage than stealth, but everyone on the team has to know what it does. You can set it up in places to get a pre lock on before dudes run by a ledge to use your t2 when they get to the ledge too. Dirty monke type things
I love when the community suddenly decides a character is a problem 😂 the vg complaints are literally coming out of nowhere. She's been the exact same for months with no issue but suddenly she's game breaking because people won't block
For shaman, I had quite some success in 4s by abusing her strong out of lock combo. Basically I run around and when I find someone doing something I jump on them, double heavy into bleed. At that point you can start fighting. Abusing her small frame and stealth. But when that fail you are in a bad place. This does not mean Im contesting her placement.
I actually like where pk is right now, a difficult hero to use but rewarding when played well, only thing i would change is some damage values like her dodge attack doing seven damage is abit stupid and her having no external pressure
Lots of For Honor characters movesets don’t feel like a person attacking with a weapon, but a janky-ass infinite string of wack-ass animations that are impossible to defend against like a damn fly with a sword. I’m looking at you Shaolin, Highlander, Conqueror, and all the outlanders
Rep 10 Hitokiri main (19 Total Rep) here! I fucking regret everything! I've been playing tons of warden and kensei trying to actually learn the game and remove all the god fucking awful habits Hitokiri had me learn. Absolutely never buy Hitokiri unless you wanna troll your friends in custom lobbies.
I don't even really want orochi nerfed I just want his storm rush to have a normal 300 ms indicator like every other character instead of the bs 200 that it has
Kensei buff ideas : he doesn’t need all of these but just some too boost him up in todays Meta! - [ ] Enhanced helm splitter - [ ] Undodgeable or enhanced soft feint lights - [ ] HA on natures wrath or speed it up - [ ] Confirmed natures wrath if dodged into - [ ] Side superior block guarantees either a Gb or dodge attack - [ ] Lower stamina cost on zone & soft feints - [ ] Increased running speed - [ ] Bash could changes - [ ] HA on unblockable - [ ] Bring his old superior block timing back - [ ] Chain from sprinting attack
Remember folks it ain’t the game all the time, it’s the basement dwellers who identify as dragons, who have anime badges, roll in 4 stacks, oh and THANKS WOW WOW SORRY SORRY TBAG TBAG
Was a highlander main for ages constantly hoping for a rework/buff, then i quit the game, and then his buff/rework comes out lmao. Came back and still trying to get used to his buffed offence form and its so rewarding to get kills bc (imo) hes the hardest hero to play in the game. I personally dont think hes overtuned because of his difficulty to play good and the hyper armour crutch bad players would rely on are easily countered by parries, dodge attacks (sometimes), etc and honestly think he deserves to be a very good hero because of his difficulty to play. But im only like rep 45~ so don't come at me i aint a master by any means.
Eh maybe infinite chain heavy’s down to 20 damage and like the guy above said no charge off neutral and remove start heavy chain hyperarmor but kept on infinite chain
@@juiceboxbzrk Eh I understand what you're saying but its not too stupid. If you're sitting there trying to parry an attack not meant for you, you might eat the first attack and then recognize you can't then start blocking. Most people just block regular externals until it does that dumb shit where at a certain angle it'll flash between left and right.
@@Nymerian_ me either, I said that as a joke- Then I kept watching and it was kinda confirming my thoughts lol- No reason to not have timestamps especially a vid this long and clicking through different tabs… it’s ok tho/ it happens
Oath breaker should be removed and replaced with something similar to his first feat. Somthing like sacrificing some of his health for a sheild thats like 25%-50% more sheild than the amount of health sacrificed
Am I the only one on 360 hz 360 frames that actually don’t think lights are fast? I get if you are 144 and below, that lights feel very fast but literally on high frames it’s not even that fast tbh, there is definitely harder stuff in gaming than lights in this game
@@soyboy6 I'm not on console but my buddy literally only plays orochi and he's been playing off and on for many years so that's pretty frustrating and I feel ya there xD I beat him once though
I know a lot of people hate on pirate but i have never lost a single match or come in second place in a team match in any game with pirate. Not one time
{Pin pls} Time Stamps:
1:15 Orochi
4:42 Shinobi
8:39 Afeera
11:45 Ocelotl
16:30 VG
22:35 Shaolin
25:35 Hito
30:06 Zerker
34:52 BP
37:45 JJ
39:59 Nobushi
42:16 Shugoki
43:08 Cent
46:45 Pirate
51:00 Musha
53:12 Kyoshin
54:32 Warmonger
56:11 Warlord
57:10 Gryphon
59:46 Kensei
1:03:00 LawBringer
1:10:18 Jorm
1:12:04 Tiandi
1:13:42 Valk
1:14:57 Zhanhu
1:18:10 Raider
1:19:45 Glad
1:22:25 HighLander
1:26:17 Warden
1:30:45 Conq
1:33:20 PK
1:37:10 Nuxia
1:39:03 Shaman
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I would bump jorm and tiandi up, and move centurion and warlord down. Jorm and tiandi deserve A simply for the crazy survival their feats give them. Jorm can chain shields with revenge shield bug, and Tiandi life steal and shield when low hp makes him great for solo carries
Shaolin's qi trap is just misunderstood. It's main purpose isn't to see where the enemy is going like most people think. It's to lock on around corners and through floors. For example, your pirate teammate can start the unblockable heavy before the ops see them while locked on. It's supposed to be symbiotic with shaolins t2 teleport, and basically any feat that just needs a lock on. I think Qi trap can result in more damage than stealth, but everyone on the team has to know what it does.
You can set it up in places to get a pre lock on before dudes run by a ledge to use your t2 when they get to the ledge too. Dirty monke type things
Timestamps bud
VG Hito and Orochi are slowly killing this game
And when they get nerfed, whoever's next strongest is going to be killing the game.
I love when the community suddenly decides a character is a problem 😂 the vg complaints are literally coming out of nowhere. She's been the exact same for months with no issue but suddenly she's game breaking because people won't block
Hito is easy, not OP
what is dead may never die
Don't forget BP lol
So nerf orochi when?
It's about time
not soon, ubi gotta make money from the skin you know 🤑🤑🤑
I’m an orochi main and I LOVE ANIME. You fucking girls
What exactly do u want nerfed just curious he doesn't have any full block or superior blocks ...just his damage? Or hit boxs?
@@supermotarded3Maybe His completely overtuned recovery cancels????
For shaman, I had quite some success in 4s by abusing her strong out of lock combo.
Basically I run around and when I find someone doing something I jump on them, double heavy into bleed. At that point you can start fighting. Abusing her small frame and stealth.
But when that fail you are in a bad place.
This does not mean Im contesting her placement.
I actually like where pk is right now, a difficult hero to use but rewarding when played well, only thing i would change is some damage values like her dodge attack doing seven damage is abit stupid and her having no external pressure
my glorious king conqueror is S in my heart
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Lots of For Honor characters movesets don’t feel like a person attacking with a weapon, but a janky-ass infinite string of wack-ass animations that are impossible to defend against like a damn fly with a sword. I’m looking at you Shaolin, Highlander, Conqueror, and all the outlanders
Rep 10 Hitokiri main (19 Total Rep) here! I fucking regret everything! I've been playing tons of warden and kensei trying to actually learn the game and remove all the god fucking awful habits Hitokiri had me learn. Absolutely never buy Hitokiri unless you wanna troll your friends in custom lobbies.
I don't even really want orochi nerfed I just want his storm rush to have a normal 300 ms indicator like every other character instead of the bs 200 that it has
Great video, I was looking for a new tier list. 😁
B-e-a-utiful sols is a goated intro to this day
Kensei buff ideas : he doesn’t need all of these but just some too boost him up in todays Meta!
- [ ] Enhanced helm splitter
- [ ] Undodgeable or enhanced soft feint lights
- [ ] HA on natures wrath or speed it up
- [ ] Confirmed natures wrath if dodged into
- [ ] Side superior block guarantees either a Gb or dodge attack
- [ ] Lower stamina cost on zone & soft feints
- [ ] Increased running speed
- [ ] Bash could changes
- [ ] HA on unblockable
- [ ] Bring his old superior block timing back
- [ ] Chain from sprinting attack
Bruh that fucking hero doen't need a buff
@@dannotch3567just say youre retarded dude we all know it
People really out here thinking that if a hero isnt s tier they need a buff. Kensei is a perfectly good character
@@lostkin4910 kensei falls short of being able to do fucking ANYTHING if you put him against s tier characters especially varangian
Bruh try playing lawb into the current meta, how about you try and adapt rather then whinge
Men I’ve been out of the game for about a year and this is absolutely what I was looking for, thanks men! Subscribed 🎉
Remember folks it ain’t the game all the time, it’s the basement dwellers who identify as dragons, who have anime badges, roll in 4 stacks, oh and THANKS WOW WOW SORRY SORRY
TBAG TBAG
Orchi jn anything is simple. Spam storm rush and the 50ms kick. This mf can jump into the air and kick faster than people can swing a light attack
When I first played this game there was only 12 characters
Oath breaker should allow black prior to ignore shield for a time instead of just taking away someone's shield
You forgot poor Medjay:(
My boy gryphon is finally getting some love
Was a highlander main for ages constantly hoping for a rework/buff, then i quit the game, and then his buff/rework comes out lmao. Came back and still trying to get used to his buffed offence form and its so rewarding to get kills bc (imo) hes the hardest hero to play in the game. I personally dont think hes overtuned because of his difficulty to play good and the hyper armour crutch bad players would rely on are easily countered by parries, dodge attacks (sometimes), etc and honestly think he deserves to be a very good hero because of his difficulty to play. But im only like rep 45~ so don't come at me i aint a master by any means.
Timestamps anyone?
BRING BACK DOMINION SOLDIER ANIMATIONS
Wait… orochi has a skill floor?
What nerf would fix hito? Give him less stamina, or less hyper armor?
Bring back the 34 damage but remove hyper armor from infinte chain except charged heavies. And remove the possibilty to charge heavy from neutral
I second this @@atynniehawke9341
Eh maybe infinite chain heavy’s down to 20 damage and like the guy above said no charge off neutral and remove start heavy chain hyperarmor but kept on infinite chain
Take his weapon and we will see who’s loyal
@@atynniehawke9341removing timed charged heavy would only work if they gave him an opener bash. that is far too harsh of a nerf.
I watched this to figure out what character to play, and now I know.
Yo is that a hub tab open on the top right
Fh hub. For honor stats and info
I think removing shinobi’s backstep light hurt him pretty decently in my opinion.
He deserves to be nerfed heavily
@@aecra I don’t know about that.
@@xwinters8632 found the shinobi player lol
@@aecra ?? Close. I’m a shaolin main
@@aecra I just don’t think the answer to for honor is NERF NERF NERF it’s been that way for years and the game is no better. Something’s gotta change
Two hours long. No time stamps. Monotone voice. No cadence. Wow I can hear my brain going into a white noise.
new box skin dropped noway
Berserker dodge attack nerf ok I get it absolutely. Do the same thing for orochi
Non-target blockable damage reduced by 30-40%
That's dumb as hell. Make a whole gameplay element irrelevant? Why punish players for using their brains
@@juiceboxbzrk Eh I understand what you're saying but its not too stupid. If you're sitting there trying to parry an attack not meant for you, you might eat the first attack and then recognize you can't then start blocking. Most people just block regular externals until it does that dumb shit where at a certain angle it'll flash between left and right.
Found it very interesting at first when you put nubi that high but then again im just whack with her 😭 still thinks she needs buffs fr
Orochi Storm Rush could be interrupted by lights, but I cant read so skill issue on my part.
more like getting baited into a deflect
PK doesn't belong above or among nuxia.
she's F tier.
When have you seen a team with a PK win?
timestamps would be nice
Then you wouldn’t watch the whole vid 😅😉
@@J_Marv or he wouldn’t have skipped Medjay
@@CallMeHuxy did medjay even have a segment in this vid
@@J_Marv i didnt watch any of it, no timestamps
@@Nymerian_ me either, I said that as a joke-
Then I kept watching and it was kinda confirming my thoughts lol-
No reason to not have timestamps especially a vid this long and clicking through different tabs… it’s ok tho/ it happens
Oath breaker should be removed and replaced with something similar to his first feat. Somthing like sacrificing some of his health for a sheild thats like 25%-50% more sheild than the amount of health sacrificed
spent 20 mins trying to find the point where he talks about my main only for him to talk for 1.5 mins. no time staps is crazy on this type of vid.
Hot take I would much rather fight a skilled Hito over a skilled highlander.
I need time stamps please 🥺!
Niga share a namelist im new af and suffering to understand who is who
Folk this where im at now
I'm surprised by his placement of Kyoshin
WHERE DA ROLL CATCH FOR CONQ AND LB UBI?
S needs big nerfs, A needs small nerfs, B and C need big reworks on the buff side
That's not how balancing works
That's literally how you run a game into the ground.
Sure, make everyone shit. That will convince people to play the game
If you’re complaining about Orochi 8 years in… get gud bruv
Pls Sol I need that wallpaper im dreaming of it as a shaman main plsssssssssssss
Am I the only one on 360 hz 360 frames that actually don’t think lights are fast? I get if you are 144 and below, that lights feel very fast but literally on high frames it’s not even that fast tbh, there is definitely harder stuff in gaming than lights in this game
Lol what?
you should play against orochi on console, let me know if yoy still enjoy the game 👍🏻
@@soyboy6 I'm not on console but my buddy literally only plays orochi and he's been playing off and on for many years so that's pretty frustrating and I feel ya there xD I beat him once though
53:12 for my Kyoshin mains
Forgot to talk about my boy Medjay!
Kensei is def B- C tier at best
Duel teirlist when
Is this the face of Andrew Tate ? why ? XD
lb c tier nabs
51:29
Pirate at S tier LMAO
I know a lot of people hate on pirate but i have never lost a single match or come in second place in a team match in any game with pirate. Not one time
shaolin’s feats are trash, the nerf was definitely not needed
hito is the most awful hero in the game, it's not even fun to play against they
JORM!!!
Junkbringer
type shit
Second
Shaman is a terrible duelist
Crazy statement💀
@@OricThePrimordial explain. Terrible mix ups, no real pressure even when bleed is applied
@@shatter1465This literally isn't true, so it isn't even worth disproving.
Been stomping in ranked 1v1 with shammy
@@victornguyen1175 I think he’s baiting tbh
You delusional if you think Shinobi is S tier 🤣