Yeah, it’s priced at “you’d have to be an idiot to buy one, but I expect they’ve got a profit margin of about 20% if it’s low volume”, as opposed to most high end watches, which were priced by someone who used to price luxury cars and doesn’t quite understand that a watch isn’t that complex.
@@HALLish-jl5mo Dude, like the manufacturing costs at assuming a reasonable level of optimization it's like $1000 that doesn't mean it's reasonable to pay $1000 it's very common to pay 3x the manufacturing cost for a good because there are other costs and they do need to make a profit. so $13.5k you still need to have more money than sense.
@@Etheoma Manufacturing and design costs per unit are VERY dependent on economy of scale. Sure if you made 10k of these watches the price would be overkill, but low volume, 13k seems reasonable.
@@HALLish-jl5mo assuming you believe only 100 units will ever sell you would just make the 100 units because it would be cheaper to do it that way, second at 13k if we again assume the manufacturing costs as I said were $1000 per unit that leaves 4.3k per unit for the development of the watch that would be 430k costs which as said is not reasonable. like if we are talking about a year of engineering time which is overkill a mid level engineer makes about $100k for something that compared to a lot of things isn't really that complex, it's not even as complex as an engine or something like that, where like yeh if you were only ever making 100 engines of a specific type yeh it's gonna be dummy expensive, but again we are talking about a watch which isn't that complex a years of engineering time is already excessively long. in that padded case $6k might make sense.
@@Etheoma Its not a question of making too many or two few, it's the fact that manufacturing costs drop off dramatically with quantity. I remember buying custom springs, I was quoted several hundred for the first spring, and a dozen pence for each subsequent spring, because setting up the machine tool all day, running it took seconds. For some components once you drop below a certain volume you make them by hand. I don't do watches, but I do design other things, and low scale manufacturing costs a FORTUNE
I bought my pride and joy Breitling from these guys. The only real treat I’d promised myself. When my brother died last year I put it on his wrist so he had something from me. So it’s now 6ft under ready to become an archeological wonder. Love you kid x
Lol, hope you're not trying to disparage China. After all, in this New Cold War started by the "free world", even the word "China" can bring a flurry of economic activity to your neck of the woods that the "free world" wouldn't otherwise give a rats ass about
Certainly not a cheap watch but the price is totally justified considering the amount of engineering and hard work it took to make this watch... It's a piece of art❤️
Love this for the watch industry; Chinese factories have the machinery and skill to forge Daytonas to almost their exact specs, but nobody prominent in the country has made an incredible AND original watch…until now!
I like it, but it'll be a really tough sell at that price point. Not because it's overpriced, but because if I were looking to spend that much on a watch, I'd want to be sure it came with a long-term manufacturer's warranty and support, and was sufficiently well-known in the market that I'd have a chance of selling it again at some point in the future. I had a poor experience with Zeroo last year which highlighted just how important it is to be able to take a faulty watch into a relatively local jeweller to be fixed. There's no way I'd spend close to 10x the price of that watch on one for which the only service or warranty option involves shipping it back to China myself.
This is the best comment in the entire feed, and it nicely captures the entire problem with the current state of Chinese products -- great technical virtuosity but far from consistent or dependable reliability and customer service and nowhere near the track record of (the admittedly over-priced) watch houses referenced at the beginning of the video.
Love my open heart Ali watches, but when I buy, one of the reasons is that I'm OK if it fails within 5 years....thing is none have (àpart from one very short energy bank) so at what point do we say yeah, we've been kinda ripped off in the past and you all know it!
@@baxoutthebox5682 A few months after I received my T4, the winding mechanism stopped working. They asked for photos of the watch, which I was happy to provide. They then made it clear they thought I'd damaged the mechanism through abuse, and insisted that I arrange as well as pay for insured shipping to and from Japan in order to fix it. That's a costly and time consuming exercise even if you don't get stung for import taxes because you failed to tick some box on a form somewhere. For a while I wondered if perhaps I had somehow managed to damage the watch, though it's far from being the only watch in my collection, and the only one that I've ever had break. I couldn't think of any occasion when I'd carried on winding past the point at which the crown stops turning easily. After all, why would I? Eventually I realised it didn't really matter either way. If you're making a complicated product at this price point, and especially if you're a relative newcomer to the market trying to establish a name for yourself, you accept that occasionally things will go wrong. It's more important to look after your customers - even if one or two are a bit clumsy - than it is to save a few $$ on shipping. At the very least, even if you feel the need to charge the customer, you offer to arrange the courier through your own shipping dept who are far more familiar with the right way to send expensive watches around the world than your customer is. To add insult to injury, I could see from the comments on their crowdfunder site that I wasn't the first to have a T4 break, but for some reason I had to pay while others before me had been properly taken care of by Zeroo customer service. That left a particularly sour taste. As soon as it came back I checked it was working, then immediately sold it. I knew I'd never enjoy wearing it, always worrying about how fragile it might be, and what a costly and time consuming exercise it would be to get it fixed if it did break again.
This is an in house movement, behrens manufactured it and marketed themselves, zeroo in the other hand does not, zeroo uses chinese movement, and asembled in japan. So don’t expect the same quality.
I have been lucky enough to see one of these on the flesh. It is big, it is bulky but it is also impressive. I don't see it as a watch. It is a demonstration of what it can be done. I will keep a close eye on what they do as if they continue like this they will become very interesting. Thanks for showing us around Andrew
Chain driven hour and retrograde minutes is awesome everything else is amazing luner orbit and a 24 hour day/night display everything someone who love alternative ways of displaying the time could ask for in one beautiful package
It's almost there, but not quite. Exquisite craftsmanship and (apparently) quality. As soon as they can overcome the existing prejudice, their place in the sun is guaranteed as long they keep being innovative and creative.
I thought the same when I saw the Agelocer tourbillon. The men behind it must be applauded & I too felt a connection, I was also thinking about the technology that China have produced over the years. There's videos od their ultra modern cities & all the futuristic things in them . Bit what did make me think, was this. China ,ancient China were very creative, if you had a Ming vase on your sideboard you'd be extremely proud & the same goes for this watch. I'll have to save to buy one,but i definitely want one. Thank you China 🇨🇳 I can't wait to open my Tourbillon.
Exceptional. What is often forgotten though is the maintenance of any complex watch. It represents a significant percentage of the purchase price every 2-5 years.
I agree that it is not about the 'Made in...' but about quality, creativity and complications. I'm also not against China production, only about crap products flooding global markets. This is not one of them.
I am all for such brands. Producing fakes hurts the original manufacturers and are terrible for the industry. Glad that there are such Chinese brands that are breaking the cycle of fakes and actually coming up with original designs. If I was on the market for such a watch but don't have hundreds of thousands to spend, it's awesome to know that I there are options in my budget. Hopefully more companies producing fakes will switch to creating original designs instead. There's always a market for high value pieces and this seems to be one of them.
Behrens have released some really innovative pieces over the years. The Rotary series is sublime and if you're a Mazda fan you absolutely should get one. And it's a heck of a lot smaller and wearable than this one. These watches are worth buying to put in a display case and just stare at. Not all that practical but art has many forms.
I would call it a museum piece, ...can't say it's sublime, just different. Like the coatings and rounded components to differentiate the look, but, to be beautiful, needs symmetry, 3 complementary colors on the skeleton, and an immediate eye performance register. In future, can see a hologram dancing on the lense?
Ive been browsing Sea-Gulls & Stuhrling watches as it'd be nice to add a "real" watch from China to my small but ever growing collection. One thing that i can say about these Chinese watches is that they certainly offer value for money irrespective of wether or not they are durable and/or easy to service.
Wow! I have a few Olev watches and two Citizens and a Hag. The quality of the Olev is amazing. The only thing which lets it down is the tool to remove the links in the strap. This Behrens watch is amazing. If I had 13 grand, i would buy one!
This is another fun and creative watch. For a watch collector for fun and casual watches, I would prefer a wearable, lightweight and comfortable with lots of fun, especially with childish look and feel. A Swatch watch therefore is my most favorite watch.
Great choice for a review, and what a design! It would be intriguing to visit the company- a human connection would go some way to convincing me to buy. Great stuff!
Super cool piece again by this brand. I really hope Behrens have huge success because we need brands like this giving the Swiss some well needed competition.
I have seen this before but not sure if it was you who I saw reviewing it but I enjoyed your review so I think for a collector who had that sort of cash to blow then why not it's a fascinating piece and would catch the eye of others for sure. A special occasion watch I think but I would love to own one personally as I'm into space stuff. But I think it's going to be a good thing that China are stepping up the quality I mean they pretty much have the monopoly on most things and soon maybe!! Watches next, I won't hold my breath tho.
Not regarding the fact that I don't have so much money to buy a watch this thing would be too complicated to read the time for me. But I guess this watch is not meant to be an everyday watch.
Let me know if you need any help in Shenzhen. If you're only visiting China for a short time it can be a bit of a pain trying to buy anything from a bottle of coke to an expensive watch. I live on the outskirts of Shenzhen with my wife, didn't like it in the busy crowded city. But would be happy to help if you need anything and it's within my abilities.
Love it, but I can’t imagine what it would cost to service it. Gems at EACH link - plus all the complications. It’s gotta be a fortune. There are tiny screws needed for the iPhone, no one in America can male them anymore - China’s taken up all production.
Lately I've ordered 5 watches from a Chinese website. They all look good and they are unbelievably cheap! Two of them cost $0.50 each and three of them cost $0.69 each. All five costs just over $3. I don't need that $13,500 timepiece any more.
China is far and could I trust in good customer service? Then I remembered how many months I waited for a brand new JLC perpetual with misaligned day and date. Or the Lange where the Hand had fallen off although it was brand new and still unworn. Could it be worse?
I quite like their 20G model. My only "problem" with the brand is that they don't really have distinct style. They make impressive and special watches, but there's no theme or real identity and it makes them feel a little gimmicky. Every watch feels like showing off their technical skills but forgetting the style element. It's like a really impressive drum solo that goes on for a couple of minutes to long. We get it, you're really good at what you do, but we do also want to hear the rest of the song.
It is certainly eye catching but watches like this are inevitably novelties, to showcase technical skill. I would be interested to see how its accuracy measured up.
So while the basic mechanics look fantastic... I'm seeing uneven machining lines in the gears that would not be present on one of its 6-figure competitors (and I assume there will be many finish errors on the watch if you look closely), and it's really those little details that people who look at that sort of price range are interested in.
In 20 years time, we will look back at the Chinese watch market and those who own the standard Rolex will be dissapointed. In fact, I believe they will take over the market. Screw the richy rich and give me my clean Sub for less than 1k. And before those start jumping in saying it isn’t quality…..you keep on thinking that. Lucky the swiss are still making their own parts. When it comes to the price of them, the Chinese are much more efficient and just may supply the parts for everyone. Assembled in “x”. Time is coming
My casio cost a hundred and fifteen euros. My frederick constant cost one thousand four hundred euros and i'm happy with both of them to form part of my collection.
The problem with the Grand Seiko brand is that they included the name Seiko? Chinese companies have bought and successfully relaunched former Western brands, eg. Volvo, MG and Lotus. Relaunching a brand is expensive but creating a new global brand takes lots of money and time... just ask Hyundai and Kia
A fantastic watch, not in my pension range, the best for me is the Oris twin barrel, I have pasted on my Rolex GMT Master, first model to my son, it is worth a small fortune, if I had that a could have solid it and had a couple of them .But as this is a in house movement and development ,it shows how workmanship, is over priced, in the snob culture , China is a fast moving country , and its modern thinking is way a head , of our slow development company’s, all the top notch product’s , we use in the west , are made in China, their attention to detail and development is astounding that watch is a good , example of their workmanship, and from what I have seen , on most of the watch website’s , on trips to china , a lot of the parts for the Swiss watches , are manufactured in china, and they are assembled in Switzerland’s factories , and sold as made in Switzerland , this has been going on , in all forms of manufacturing , but this is sum thing entirely different , home design, home built, full of pride, they will be giving a big headache , to watch manufacturers worldwide.
it's definitely beautiful when you get close enough, but from what im seeing on the screen it looks really cheap from a couple of feet away. I would adore a cheaper, sized up version as a wall clock though XD
This isn't a knockoff lmao. This is a quality watch. The whole video he literally says that China has the capability to manufacture quality goods and you say this...
@@chotatopips4177 . Anything from the CCP factories is guaranteed below par, they don't have the basics to make top dollar goods that last. May look good in the short term, but down the road a bit and........................😱💩
Like the person above me said, this is NOT a knockoff!!! This is a brand new watch built from the ground up, and for Chinese standards, it’s INSANE. I don’t own one (cause I’m not rich), so I can’t speak to its quality myself-but please, for the love of god, don’t berate a watch just because it’s made in China.
Some watchmakers mostly Swiss brands are making ludicrous watches just to ask ludicrous amount of price money, they've gone from making exquisite quality watches to robbing their easily impressed rich clientele with absurd prices. Brands like RM & Rolex basically rinse & repeat their products though more legit than J&Co, which is basically a sham.
Wow only 13500 dollars, it is almost free of charges. How so cheap Chinese cheap parts could get so cheap ? I'm impressed with the narrator of this video. He must be under some heavy stuff. Please would you share with us in another video?
You can make high quality or garbage products anywhere. However, if youre looking for the cheapest labor and overhead, quality is probably not the main focus.
Looks like a child toy I expect to get for US$30. But wrist watches are out since everyone carrys a smartphone. The last high was during covid, now all watch collectors try to get rid of their expensive stock
China has the ability to produce cutting edge, high quality goods for a long time already. They just don't do it often because they are busy expanding their productive forces to produce affordable goods that people all over the world can buy. They make goods to the exact specifications you want, and if you want cheap things, you get cheap things. But the fact is that even high quality goods are still make relatively far cheaper in China than anywhere else. The fact that Chinese high tech goods today like EVs, chips, and consumer electronics are made far cheaper and often at the same quality, if not higher quality than any factory in the west is a testament to China's manufacturing capability. Their rapid modernization of their military and reaching parity in technology with the west should already give you a clue to the manufacturing prowess of the country because that is one area China will not cheap out on quality. China is already there, it is just whether they want to do it or not. If they want to make luxurious, overengineered, overwrought, highly unique and innovative products, they can, and they will make it cheaper than anyone else. It is only because of western propaganda that create this illusion that China is still a copy-cat, low quality, low tech, low brow country. They launch their own space station and build their own 5th gen fighter jets FFS. This is why Ford's CEO said that Chinese cars are an "extinction event" for western car manufacturers, after him and his CFO driven Xiaomi's new car. This phenomena is the same across numerous important industries. The west simply cannot compete anymore, except maybe in war-making, public opinion manipulation, and financial gambling.
It lacks the polish of high standard watches. Which makes me believe 13$K is a price set to mark it as a luxury watch for the possible buyer. I doubt it costs more than 2-3$k materials + manufacturing. You get figurine gaming painters that do a better job at painting that earth.
Yup nope and complicated is not full calendar watch also. I was guessing like $500 to start, so not cheaper than i thought. Could lose the vvvvvvvvvvvf polish and have normal and be good to go.
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This insane watch is cheaper than you think, but not cheaper than you afford.
@waqasbaloch5245 even I can afford I no will pay nothing for no recognition of the brand to hold the value is gonna be Rolex
@@pablolopez274 smart approach🤓
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Neither was it cheaper than I thought
@@bluemamba5317 either me🤓
If the other ''high end'' brands that cost $100k+ were selling their watches at $13.5k they would still be on profit too
Yeah, it’s priced at “you’d have to be an idiot to buy one, but I expect they’ve got a profit margin of about 20% if it’s low volume”, as opposed to most high end watches, which were priced by someone who used to price luxury cars and doesn’t quite understand that a watch isn’t that complex.
@@HALLish-jl5mo Dude, like the manufacturing costs at assuming a reasonable level of optimization it's like $1000 that doesn't mean it's reasonable to pay $1000 it's very common to pay 3x the manufacturing cost for a good because there are other costs and they do need to make a profit. so $13.5k you still need to have more money than sense.
@@Etheoma Manufacturing and design costs per unit are VERY dependent on economy of scale. Sure if you made 10k of these watches the price would be overkill, but low volume, 13k seems reasonable.
@@HALLish-jl5mo assuming you believe only 100 units will ever sell you would just make the 100 units because it would be cheaper to do it that way, second at 13k if we again assume the manufacturing costs as I said were $1000 per unit that leaves 4.3k per unit for the development of the watch that would be 430k costs which as said is not reasonable.
like if we are talking about a year of engineering time which is overkill a mid level engineer makes about $100k for something that compared to a lot of things isn't really that complex, it's not even as complex as an engine or something like that, where like yeh if you were only ever making 100 engines of a specific type yeh it's gonna be dummy expensive, but again we are talking about a watch which isn't that complex a years of engineering time is already excessively long.
in that padded case $6k might make sense.
@@Etheoma Its not a question of making too many or two few, it's the fact that manufacturing costs drop off dramatically with quantity. I remember buying custom springs, I was quoted several hundred for the first spring, and a dozen pence for each subsequent spring, because setting up the machine tool all day, running it took seconds.
For some components once you drop below a certain volume you make them by hand.
I don't do watches, but I do design other things, and low scale manufacturing costs a FORTUNE
I bought my pride and joy Breitling from these guys. The only real treat I’d promised myself. When my brother died last year I put it on his wrist so he had something from me. So it’s now 6ft under ready to become an archeological wonder. Love you kid x
respect
RIP to your bro' ❤.
Wow what a beautiful thing to do 🙏 RIP too your brother.
@@Rob.Coleman thank you for that
@@Dr.Gunsmith thank you for that
$13,500 is not a bargain to 99.99% of people in the world lol. Cool watch though
Compared to $300k for the Swiss versions? That would be like a Ford Raptor equivalent selling for $5k, or buying a house for $50k in today's market.
Uhhhh yes, yes it is.
Lol, hope you're not trying to disparage China. After all, in this New Cold War started by the "free world", even the word "China" can bring a flurry of economic activity to your neck of the woods that the "free world" wouldn't otherwise give a rats ass about
@@yamkaw346only the 0.01% would spend $13.5k on a watch.
@@aternialaffsalot Not really true, loads of people live way beyond their means. What’s your point though?
Where is the AliExpress link?
The price is $13,5K if that’s all you want to know 6:57
Certainly not a cheap watch but the price is totally justified considering the amount of engineering and hard work it took to make this watch... It's a piece of art❤️
America money ? 😂😂😂😂😂
still expensive
Damn it. He was lying when he said it was attainable. He’s such a fraud.
title completely wrong, chinese watches and cheap is normally 100 - 200 $
Behrens is absolutely killing it in the avant-garde attainable watch range and we are loving it!
But it’s made in China it won’t last as long as a Seiko
@@Aztec1050Bullshit, made in China doesn’t = inferior quality and all my Seikos were 30+ seconds off and always stopped working within months
@@Aztec1050buy seiko pls, it suits you well.
nonsense. Times are changing. They can and will produce goods upto whatever price point and quality wanted. @@Aztec1050
@@DirtFather407it does. Also seiko is shit
Love this for the watch industry; Chinese factories have the machinery and skill to forge Daytonas to almost their exact specs, but nobody prominent in the country has made an incredible AND original watch…until now!
They were born to copy brands😅
Seagull is decent
@@christianbass10superior copying power
USD 13,500 and Limited to only 200 pcs worldwide!
I hope they sell them all so I can buy a Swiss knockoff at $99.99
I like it, but it'll be a really tough sell at that price point. Not because it's overpriced, but because if I were looking to spend that much on a watch, I'd want to be sure it came with a long-term manufacturer's warranty and support, and was sufficiently well-known in the market that I'd have a chance of selling it again at some point in the future.
I had a poor experience with Zeroo last year which highlighted just how important it is to be able to take a faulty watch into a relatively local jeweller to be fixed. There's no way I'd spend close to 10x the price of that watch on one for which the only service or warranty option involves shipping it back to China myself.
This is the best comment in the entire feed, and it nicely captures the entire problem with the current state of Chinese products -- great technical virtuosity but far from consistent or dependable reliability and customer service and nowhere near the track record of (the admittedly over-priced) watch houses referenced at the beginning of the video.
Love my open heart Ali watches, but when I buy, one of the reasons is that I'm OK if it fails within 5 years....thing is none have (àpart from one very short energy bank) so at what point do we say yeah, we've been kinda ripped off in the past and you all know it!
I’ve found zeroo’s customer service to be great. What happened with yours?
@@baxoutthebox5682 A few months after I received my T4, the winding mechanism stopped working. They asked for photos of the watch, which I was happy to provide.
They then made it clear they thought I'd damaged the mechanism through abuse, and insisted that I arrange as well as pay for insured shipping to and from Japan in order to fix it. That's a costly and time consuming exercise even if you don't get stung for import taxes because you failed to tick some box on a form somewhere.
For a while I wondered if perhaps I had somehow managed to damage the watch, though it's far from being the only watch in my collection, and the only one that I've ever had break. I couldn't think of any occasion when I'd carried on winding past the point at which the crown stops turning easily. After all, why would I?
Eventually I realised it didn't really matter either way. If you're making a complicated product at this price point, and especially if you're a relative newcomer to the market trying to establish a name for yourself, you accept that occasionally things will go wrong. It's more important to look after your customers - even if one or two are a bit clumsy - than it is to save a few $$ on shipping. At the very least, even if you feel the need to charge the customer, you offer to arrange the courier through your own shipping dept who are far more familiar with the right way to send expensive watches around the world than your customer is.
To add insult to injury, I could see from the comments on their crowdfunder site that I wasn't the first to have a T4 break, but for some reason I had to pay while others before me had been properly taken care of by Zeroo customer service. That left a particularly sour taste.
As soon as it came back I checked it was working, then immediately sold it. I knew I'd never enjoy wearing it, always worrying about how fragile it might be, and what a costly and time consuming exercise it would be to get it fixed if it did break again.
This is an in house movement, behrens manufactured it and marketed themselves, zeroo in the other hand does not, zeroo uses chinese movement, and asembled in japan. So don’t expect the same quality.
I have been lucky enough to see one of these on the flesh. It is big, it is bulky but it is also impressive. I don't see it as a watch. It is a demonstration of what it can be done. I will keep a close eye on what they do as if they continue like this they will become very interesting. Thanks for showing us around Andrew
I like this, I'm also intrigued by the Apolar, Space Traveler, and Mars. It's good to see such unique designs that are relatively inexpensive.
Chain driven hour and retrograde minutes is awesome everything else is amazing luner orbit and a 24 hour day/night display everything someone who love alternative ways of displaying the time could ask for in one beautiful package
I was thoroughly shocked at how well this movement was finished absolutely fantastic.
It's almost there, but not quite. Exquisite craftsmanship and (apparently) quality. As soon as they can overcome the existing prejudice, their place in the sun is guaranteed as long they keep being innovative and creative.
it's spelled
BEHRENS PERIGEE
and it's 14K usd
your welcome.
I thought the same when I saw the Agelocer tourbillon. The men behind it must be applauded & I too felt a connection, I was also thinking about the technology that China have produced over the years. There's videos od their ultra modern cities & all the futuristic things in them . Bit what did make me think, was this. China ,ancient China were very creative, if you had a Ming vase on your sideboard you'd be extremely proud & the same goes for this watch. I'll have to save to buy one,but i definitely want one. Thank you China 🇨🇳 I can't wait to open my Tourbillon.
Exceptional. What is often forgotten though is the maintenance of any complex watch. It represents a significant percentage of the purchase price every 2-5 years.
What's the service cost and interval?
Best and most pertinent question.
Almost died of boredom waiting for him to say the cost. What a muppet
I agree that it is not about the 'Made in...' but about quality, creativity and complications. I'm also not against China production, only about crap products flooding global markets. This is not one of them.
I am all for such brands. Producing fakes hurts the original manufacturers and are terrible for the industry. Glad that there are such Chinese brands that are breaking the cycle of fakes and actually coming up with original designs. If I was on the market for such a watch but don't have hundreds of thousands to spend, it's awesome to know that I there are options in my budget. Hopefully more companies producing fakes will switch to creating original designs instead. There's always a market for high value pieces and this seems to be one of them.
Behrens have released some really innovative pieces over the years. The Rotary series is sublime and if you're a Mazda fan you absolutely should get one. And it's a heck of a lot smaller and wearable than this one. These watches are worth buying to put in a display case and just stare at. Not all that practical but art has many forms.
Imagine being a mazda fan rofl
Haha the RX8 and other rotary engine cars have a bit of a cult following
I would call it a museum piece, ...can't say it's sublime, just different.
Like the coatings and rounded components to differentiate the look, but, to be beautiful, needs symmetry, 3 complementary colors on the skeleton, and an immediate eye performance register.
In future, can see a hologram dancing on the lense?
Behrens' creativity reminds me of MB&F and Jacobs & Co.
So... Cringy?
@@TheApacheTrail I guess it depends on what model. Jacobs is definitely cringy for my taste, but you can acknowledge the creativity.
'You'd think it was expensive, it's not.' Yeah, ONLY $14,000. I'll buy seven of them!
Company supported by gov, cheap labour. Not equal competition
One for each day of the week
Ive been browsing Sea-Gulls & Stuhrling watches as it'd be nice to add a "real" watch from China to my small but ever growing collection. One thing that i can say about these Chinese watches is that they certainly offer value for money irrespective of wether or not they are durable and/or easy to service.
It costs $13500
You’re doing god’s work. Thanks. Saved me 8 minutes.
And not cheaper than I thought, actually more expensive than I thought
Bargain!
Wow! I have a few Olev watches and two Citizens and a Hag. The quality of the Olev is amazing. The only thing which lets it down is the tool to remove the links in the strap.
This Behrens watch is amazing. If I had 13 grand, i would buy one!
This is another fun and creative watch. For a watch collector for fun and casual watches, I would prefer a wearable, lightweight and comfortable with lots of fun, especially with childish look and feel. A Swatch watch therefore is my most favorite watch.
Am wearing the Behrens Star Trek watch now as I watch this and it is very exciting stuff.
Outstanding review! I subscribed just with this review! So clear, precise and fun 😂
Will surely get glued on your contents! 🥂 Cheers!
Amazing piece, impressive even ignoring the amazing price. If my budget were anywhere near that amount, I'd definitely think about it.
Great choice for a review, and what a design! It would be intriguing to visit the company- a human connection would go some way to convincing me to buy. Great stuff!
Dont bother...$13k is still only obtainable by the 1%.
Super cool! Thanks for reviewing this. But I don't even wear a watch now and my budget when I did was about $250...
Super cool piece again by this brand. I really hope Behrens have huge success because we need brands like this giving the Swiss some well needed competition.
How do you service this watch?
Another truly great job! Much prefer this to Seal watches.
I have seen this before but not sure if it was you who I saw reviewing it but I enjoyed your review so I think for a collector who had that sort of cash to blow then why not it's a fascinating piece and would catch the eye of others for sure. A special occasion watch I think but I would love to own one personally as I'm into space stuff. But I think it's going to be a good thing that China are stepping up the quality I mean they pretty much have the monopoly on most things and soon maybe!! Watches next, I won't hold my breath tho.
I love every single one of your videos. This watch looks pretty cool. Thanks for sharing.
Amazing creation !! thnx for the great and exciting review
Loving the chain drive.
Amazing watch! Great job, Berhens!!
Not regarding the fact that I don't have so much money to buy a watch this thing would be too complicated to read the time for me. But I guess this watch is not meant to be an everyday watch.
the craftmanship is mind blowing im not a watch guy at all but this just amazing
Let me know if you need any help in Shenzhen. If you're only visiting China for a short time it can be a bit of a pain trying to buy anything from a bottle of coke to an expensive watch.
I live on the outskirts of Shenzhen with my wife, didn't like it in the busy crowded city. But would be happy to help if you need anything and it's within my abilities.
Well, no watch is really a "bargain", most are too expensive. But compared to the rest of the market, this price is pretty impressive!
How are they "too expensive"?
@@hereb4theendhow are they not too expensive?
Love it, but I can’t imagine what it would cost to service it. Gems at EACH link - plus all the complications. It’s gotta be a fortune.
There are tiny screws needed for the iPhone, no one in America can male them anymore - China’s taken up all production.
That Fractal vice video was brilliant quite unforgettable
if you say it is made in switzerlanld all people ready to pay 100k for sure
Lately I've ordered 5 watches from a Chinese website. They all look good and they are unbelievably cheap! Two of them cost $0.50 each and three of them cost $0.69 each. All five costs just over $3. I don't need that $13,500 timepiece any more.
China is far and could I trust in good customer service? Then I remembered how many months I waited for a brand new JLC perpetual with misaligned day and date. Or the Lange where the Hand had fallen off although it was brand new and still unworn. Could it be worse?
Amazing watch. I wonder about servicing?
I quite like their 20G model. My only "problem" with the brand is that they don't really have distinct style. They make impressive and special watches, but there's no theme or real identity and it makes them feel a little gimmicky. Every watch feels like showing off their technical skills but forgetting the style element.
It's like a really impressive drum solo that goes on for a couple of minutes to long. We get it, you're really good at what you do, but we do also want to hear the rest of the song.
Thanks dude, just got me a Behrens Star Trek Watch. I hope it arrives, can't wait
It's great to finally see the face behind this amazing voice!
It is certainly eye catching but watches like this are inevitably novelties, to showcase technical skill. I would be interested to see how its accuracy measured up.
Based on the clickbait title, I expected a price of at most $1,000
It looks like a $50 watch
I would pick one up at 5k
What a superb piece. Absolutely love it! The price is … unfortunate, but maybe if I sell all my other watches…?🤔 Thank you for sharing!
So while the basic mechanics look fantastic... I'm seeing uneven machining lines in the gears that would not be present on one of its 6-figure competitors (and I assume there will be many finish errors on the watch if you look closely), and it's really those little details that people who look at that sort of price range are interested in.
You can buy this in shenzen market for 3 squid and a puffer fish.
If I ever decide to spend $13.5k for watch it will be this one!
I don't know... 😐
In 20 years time, we will look back at the Chinese watch market and those who own the standard Rolex will be dissapointed. In fact, I believe they will take over the market. Screw the richy rich and give me my clean Sub for less than 1k. And before those start jumping in saying it isn’t quality…..you keep on thinking that. Lucky the swiss are still making their own parts. When it comes to the price of them, the Chinese are much more efficient and just may supply the parts for everyone. Assembled in “x”. Time is coming
My casio cost a hundred and fifteen euros. My frederick constant cost one thousand four hundred euros and i'm happy with both of them to form part of my collection.
Great, that has nothing to do with this video.
The problem with the Grand Seiko brand is that they included the name Seiko? Chinese companies have bought and successfully relaunched former Western brands, eg. Volvo, MG and Lotus. Relaunching a brand is expensive but creating a new global brand takes lots of money and time... just ask Hyundai and Kia
I love Smart Watches and I have all of them except for the One Plus.
I like how meeting demand will involve people not jumping to their death because they’re saved by “Jumper Nets”…
A fantastic watch, not in my pension range, the best for me is the Oris twin barrel, I have pasted on my Rolex GMT Master, first model to my son, it is worth a small fortune, if I had that a could have solid it and had a couple of them .But as this is a in house movement and development ,it shows how workmanship, is over priced, in the snob culture , China is a fast moving country , and its modern thinking is way a head , of our slow development company’s, all the top notch product’s , we use in the west , are made in China, their attention to detail and development is astounding that watch is a good , example of their workmanship, and from what I have seen , on most of the watch website’s , on trips to china , a lot of the parts for the Swiss watches , are manufactured in china, and they are assembled in Switzerland’s factories , and sold as made in Switzerland , this has been going on , in all forms of manufacturing , but this is sum thing entirely different , home design, home built, full of pride, they will be giving a big headache , to watch manufacturers worldwide.
Yeah, that watch costs WAY more than I thought it would.
Yeah but , what time is it? Even so I kinda like it...
it's definitely beautiful when you get close enough, but from what im seeing on the screen it looks really cheap from a couple of feet away. I would adore a cheaper, sized up version as a wall clock though XD
Crystal looks very reflective, AR?
I would definitely buy it! I have so much stuff from china, why should I differentiate with a luxury watch?
Great video, good script and b roll!
Nope, you're wrong. It isn't cheaper than I thought. 🙂
Fantastic. Got me good with the fact that this is Chinese! Very excited to see what comes
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4uck!, 13500. Can't even afford a Chinese knock off anymore.
This isn't a knockoff lmao. This is a quality watch. The whole video he literally says that China has the capability to manufacture quality goods and you say this...
@@chotatopips4177 because he is an !d!ot. If he is hit by quality on his head, he won’t even know it!
@@chotatopips4177 . Anything from the CCP factories is guaranteed below par, they don't have the basics to make top dollar goods that last. May look good in the short term, but down the road a bit and........................😱💩
Like the person above me said, this is NOT a knockoff!!! This is a brand new watch built from the ground up, and for Chinese standards, it’s INSANE. I don’t own one (cause I’m not rich), so I can’t speak to its quality myself-but please, for the love of god, don’t berate a watch just because it’s made in China.
@@iamcarbonandotherbits.8039 You are making this up.
San Martin divers are finished to Rolex standards for less than $500.
With a $10 Seiko movement inside
Some watchmakers mostly Swiss brands are making ludicrous watches just to ask ludicrous amount of price money, they've gone from making exquisite quality watches to robbing their easily impressed rich clientele with absurd prices. Brands like RM & Rolex basically rinse & repeat their products though more legit than J&Co, which is basically a sham.
Funny you mention the ISS because China was left out because they had nothing to offer but countries like Denmark could apparently offer more
Wow only 13500 dollars, it is almost free of charges. How so cheap Chinese cheap parts could get so cheap ?
I'm impressed with the narrator of this video. He must be under some heavy stuff. Please would you share with us in another video?
craftsmanship is just that. It does not matter where it comes from.
This watch is so insanely affordable, it’s like finding a Picasso at a garage sale, just don’t expect it to fit in with your instant noodles budget.
You can make high quality or garbage products anywhere.
However, if youre looking for the cheapest labor and overhead, quality is probably not the main focus.
Cheaper than you think?? I’m from a world where anything over £50 is expensive.
Scoffing at something, just because its made in China, is an outdated view. This is a great example.
This watch costs more than my current car
“Nice watch, what time is it?”
“I haven’t a clue, but I can give you your horoscope if you’d like?”
Chinese goods a few centuries ago were the most sought after luxury goods. From porcelain, fine silks, tea, and even furniture
Looks like a child toy I expect to get for US$30. But wrist watches are out since everyone carrys a smartphone. The last high was during covid, now all watch collectors try to get rid of their expensive stock
One year later, it appears that the 200 watch limited run has not sold out yet.
This watch was more expensive than I thought.
China has the ability to produce cutting edge, high quality goods for a long time already. They just don't do it often because they are busy expanding their productive forces to produce affordable goods that people all over the world can buy. They make goods to the exact specifications you want, and if you want cheap things, you get cheap things. But the fact is that even high quality goods are still make relatively far cheaper in China than anywhere else. The fact that Chinese high tech goods today like EVs, chips, and consumer electronics are made far cheaper and often at the same quality, if not higher quality than any factory in the west is a testament to China's manufacturing capability. Their rapid modernization of their military and reaching parity in technology with the west should already give you a clue to the manufacturing prowess of the country because that is one area China will not cheap out on quality.
China is already there, it is just whether they want to do it or not. If they want to make luxurious, overengineered, overwrought, highly unique and innovative products, they can, and they will make it cheaper than anyone else. It is only because of western propaganda that create this illusion that China is still a copy-cat, low quality, low tech, low brow country. They launch their own space station and build their own 5th gen fighter jets FFS.
This is why Ford's CEO said that Chinese cars are an "extinction event" for western car manufacturers, after him and his CFO driven Xiaomi's new car. This phenomena is the same across numerous important industries. The west simply cannot compete anymore, except maybe in war-making, public opinion manipulation, and financial gambling.
It lacks the polish of high standard watches. Which makes me believe 13$K is a price set to mark it as a luxury watch for the possible buyer. I doubt it costs more than 2-3$k materials + manufacturing. You get figurine gaming painters that do a better job at painting that earth.
Very cool watch. I was hoping to get it from bangkok side alleys for a few thousand bahts
Yup nope and complicated is not full calendar watch also. I was guessing like $500 to start, so not cheaper than i thought. Could lose the vvvvvvvvvvvf polish and have normal and be good to go.
Top review. You should be on TV!!
.......i wonder if jacob &co will be making replicas soon?