A NEW Type of Box! Murders At Karlov Manor Play Booster Box Opening

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

Комментарии • 98

  • @andrewlorinczi2731
    @andrewlorinczi2731 11 месяцев назад +16

    The mythic count is concerning to me considering how juiced set boosters used to be. I feel like you should be seeing 6-8 mythics based on the total amount of rares/mythics in these packs.

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад +2

      It's variance, I'm sure there will be some play boxes with a ton of mythics.

    • @chrisharrison2900
      @chrisharrison2900 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@RipAndShipDo commander cards appear in play boosters, like they did in set?

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      They do not.@@chrisharrison2900

    • @chrisharrison2900
      @chrisharrison2900 11 месяцев назад

      @@RipAndShip unfortunate, though I believe that the list spot has some of the uncommon reprints from the precons.

    • @eva091
      @eva091 11 месяцев назад

      I once pulled 2 mythics out of a ONE box so this seems fine.

  • @rainfyre
    @rainfyre 11 месяцев назад +6

    Thanks Lance! You and the entire Moonshot crew are awesome!!!

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      Thank you RainFire for the opportunity to open this on video!

  • @endlessorbaggins8223
    @endlessorbaggins8223 11 месяцев назад +5

    Not paying 240$CAD tx incl for this. That was the price I paid 5 years ago when Master 25 released. How come we have reached this point already where a box of a regular Standard set cost the same as what a Master set costed 5 years ago? This cost 60$ more than a draft box costed me the past two years.

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      I can't speak for Canadian pricing, but this is the same price per pack we were charging for set boosters here. It just has 6 extra packs compared to a set box.

  • @thor82ak
    @thor82ak 11 месяцев назад +13

    I'm feeling like they missed the mark on this, coming from LCI with all the cool hits, special guests, huge list hits, now its pretty sparse for hits.

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад +4

      There are a lot of REALLY powerful cards in this set, people just haven't had a chance to play with them or figure our pricing to see what the big hits are.

    • @thor82ak
      @thor82ak 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@RipAndShip I guess we will have to wait and see how it goes after release. I just think LCI was such a good set, it's hard to follow up. I am glad they put together some quality precons though, they have great value!

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, there is no Mana Crypt chase, but that's like... 99% of standard sets.

  • @corpse666
    @corpse666 11 месяцев назад +5

    These feel like either slightly (extremely slightly) better draftbooster or really worse setboosters. I feel this is just a push towards collector boosters, if you want some good pulls

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад +1

      Feels the same as a set booster from a set with no bonus sheet to me. Only difference is lower pull rate on list cards.

  • @Isaiah4DJT2024
    @Isaiah4DJT2024 11 месяцев назад +7

    Thanks Lance. I like seeing these before any sealed purchases so I can determine if it’s worth; so far I’d say no.

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      Glad I could help! I think there will be a lot of staples in this set when all is said and done.

  • @dispozablehero9829
    @dispozablehero9829 11 месяцев назад +4

    This is definitely a buy singles set. Theres maybe 4 cards in the whole set that interest me.

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      Interesting, I thought this set is pretty powerful!

  • @icholi88
    @icholi88 11 месяцев назад +3

    The extra cards don't seem like they justify the new cost of the play boosters... seem like a bad proposition outside of draft ( and you have your choice for boxes anyway). I'm gonna be sitting out until I like a set thematically like Bloomburrow. Don't waste your money or time folks.

    • @JavierOrtizBultron
      @JavierOrtizBultron 11 месяцев назад +2

      The extra rare slots are a trap since they watered most rares down. Nothing justified the increase.

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      It's just a bigger set box, essentially. Same price per pack.

    • @JavierOrtizBultron
      @JavierOrtizBultron 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@RipAndShip yeah but is a watered down set Booster pack when the set is designed with the extra rares per pack.

  • @Jeff.Kollects
    @Jeff.Kollects 11 месяцев назад

    Really fun to see you showcase the product and your reactions. Happy karlov opening

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      Thank you! You too!

  • @ThePathofWealth
    @ThePathofWealth 11 месяцев назад +2

    Excluding basic lands, players will draft 39 cards (down from 42) and sealed pools will have 78 of these cards (down from 84). Crazy that people are ok with this.

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      I don't see it really impacting draft or sealed. I guess it might have a slightly larger impact for sealed, but I very very rarely used my 15th pick in a draft pack in my deck.

    • @JavierOrtizBultron
      @JavierOrtizBultron 11 месяцев назад

      Smaller pool is just smaller but most times those are trash commons.

    • @andrewlorinczi2731
      @andrewlorinczi2731 11 месяцев назад

      I don’t think that will be a huge issue. It’s very rare to miss out on enough playables in today’s limited environment, so missing 3 or 6 cards isn’t going to be noticed like it would be in a set designed 6-8 years ago.

  • @kimleong9644
    @kimleong9644 11 месяцев назад

    They tune down the double rate rare compared previous set booster

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      There are more packs with 2 rares in this set than in previous sets with set boosters that did not have a bonus sheet.

  • @TheTurtleGamer.
    @TheTurtleGamer. 11 месяцев назад

    i wanna see how the prerelease packs look like

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      I won't have any until after prerelease, most likely.

  • @IgnatiusHarris
    @IgnatiusHarris 11 месяцев назад +1

    The idea of getting a basic land in a booster I just spent 6£/$/€ on makes me so pissed off I’m not even buying them. I’m buying old sets from now on and precons

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thankfully they're a little cheaper on our side, $4.99 a pack on stream.

  • @JavierOrtizBultron
    @JavierOrtizBultron 11 месяцев назад +2

    I doubt this was even close to break even. It has the case for years now with standard sets and it'll be even worse with these packs. Most rares are bulk at best since they are watered down. Even the usual inflated pre-release prices are relatively low and I don't expect to hold.

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад +2

      Time will tell. Pack opening generally isn't seen as an investment, though, but as entertainment. If you just want a few select cards, you're almost always better off getting singles.

    • @JavierOrtizBultron
      @JavierOrtizBultron 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@RipAndShip I agree but it used to be more likely to get value in a draft box a frlew years ago. It gets old very quick being on the losing end too often.

    • @patrickstrawder9644
      @patrickstrawder9644 11 месяцев назад

      the only thing I pre-ordered from this set is assassin's trophy. I think that card might go up but I wont touch the rest until a week or two after the set comes out.

    • @JavierOrtizBultron
      @JavierOrtizBultron 11 месяцев назад

      @@patrickstrawder9644 I only got the commander precons.

  • @elicook152
    @elicook152 11 месяцев назад

    Really wanting to build a slides against humanity deck!

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      Gonna be a lot of people wanting to do that!

  • @Terracronz
    @Terracronz 11 месяцев назад +1

    Pretty annoying that they can’t acknowledge that sets boosters were the bloat. Collectors boosters for the whales and draft boosters for play, not that complicated.

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад +1

      Yet draft boosters were the lowest selling product of the three.

  • @datmuhq6821
    @datmuhq6821 11 месяцев назад +1

    This has me torn. Did they do well on making play boosters viable in draft and limited? Yeah, somewhat. Of course you add variance by adding SPGs and list slots. They did well in keeping the limited environment in mind with what they put on the list and in the SPG slot.
    My issue though? Going forward both the list and the SPG slots will be bottlenecked by the limited environment which definitely makes these less fun to crack for collecting than set boosters just by design. Like 1,56% for a rare or mythic list hit and another 1,56% for a SPG while both slots are less juiced up to keep limited balanced? Oof, that sounds rough. I would have much preferred for them to go for an extra card in the booster which cannot be used in draft/limited but allows for a better pack cracking experience personally.
    Guess I'll see how it feels when my preorder arrived. Starting off with a bundle to crack and a pre-release kit to play limited with in our group.

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      Good luck with your pulls.

  • @akumu2625
    @akumu2625 11 месяцев назад

    Why the rare/mythic count drop real hard? Even ixalan at least got 2 rare for each set boosters

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      Ixalan didn't have 2 per set booster. Also, it had Jurassic World rares which were like a bonus sheet in some packs. Most packs only had 1 rare.

  • @controlaltdeleteish
    @controlaltdeleteish 11 месяцев назад

    Where are all the rares i thought these were gonna be on par with set packs

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      Felt on part with set packs to me. I think most people over estimate the number of rares in a set box.

    • @professormancaptain4210
      @professormancaptain4210 11 месяцев назад

      I opened set boxes during strixhaven, mh2, midnight hunt, and brother's war. 4 rares in a pack happened more times than id expected. 3 rares almost felt commonplace.

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      ​@@professormancaptain4210strixhaven and bro bother had bonus sheets. I promise you mid and mh2 did not have the same pull rates.

  • @julius6817
    @julius6817 11 месяцев назад

    Looking forward to play sealed with these!

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      Should be fun for sure!

  • @rom623ownsu
    @rom623ownsu 11 месяцев назад +1

    more tap lands.. yay

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      At least you can fetch them!

    • @maaikevreugdemaker9210
      @maaikevreugdemaker9210 10 месяцев назад

      They are actually becoming a modern staple, if there's no need to fetch a shock or triome, you get to surveil which is really strong in a lot of decks.

  • @Blastsniper
    @Blastsniper 11 месяцев назад +3

    Shittier draft experience and shitter pack cracking experience, nice!

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      I honestly think the drafts will be fun.

  • @Mr-Chill
    @Mr-Chill 11 месяцев назад

    I give it until next year and draft boosters will be back

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      I doubt they'd bring back their worst selling box.

  • @endlessorbaggins8223
    @endlessorbaggins8223 11 месяцев назад

    46 rares, 5 mythics counting List slot. So Total 51 rare/mythic. Effectively more than I used to see with a box of 30 set boosters (I had between 38-42 of those). But, considering everyone could open about 50 rares/mythic per box it is just more of those on the market and it makes them less valuable. I don't personnaly beleived that all things settled there will be way more "value" for your money in these play booster box. You get near 1.5X more rare/mythic per box than a regular draft box. Like I said, I beleive this is the kind of thing that makes the cards less actually physically rare and thus less valuable. Would be interesting to compare ratio EV/box price compared to sets from the past with consideration to inflation.

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      If you adjust for 6 extra packs, this would have had about 42 rares/mythics in a set box. Honestly, most people were buying set boxes over draft boxes so it should keep things the same if they printed the same number of packs overall.

  • @CubicCoder
    @CubicCoder 10 месяцев назад

    I miss set boosted those were my shit

  • @foramoreperfectamerica8490
    @foramoreperfectamerica8490 11 месяцев назад

    So I noticed that the packs have 14 cards(including a basic land card) what does that mean for draft since we used to use 15 card packs?

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад +2

      You draft one less card per pack and cut one less card per pack from your deck. Honestly, pick 15s were almost always trash for me when drafting.

  • @aaronslack7292
    @aaronslack7292 11 месяцев назад

    One geardrake in the entire box 😮‍💨

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watching.

  • @k9vendettathewolfofmordor529
    @k9vendettathewolfofmordor529 11 месяцев назад

    Kinda sucks the art cards arent guaranteed. Guess it adds to there rarity but its still eh.

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      I love art cards, but most people do nothing with them.

  • @KrisPSouls9258
    @KrisPSouls9258 11 месяцев назад +1

    This set looks pretty cool I'm probably going to have to get a box.

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад +1

      I've enjoyed it so far.

  • @blastingoff
    @blastingoff 11 месяцев назад +1

    I blink and theres a million different sets released.
    Glad I got out of mtg. This is a bit absurd.

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      There are a lot of sets.

  • @philipjourneay3843
    @philipjourneay3843 10 месяцев назад

    they should call them pay boosters... cause youre gonna pay a premium for a non premium booster....

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  10 месяцев назад

      They're the same price as set boosters and better than set boosters.

  • @ciaociao1212
    @ciaociao1212 11 месяцев назад

    Like for Who watched only the first pack fo see the new booster pack style

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watching, even just if for one pack.

  • @TripsAhoy
    @TripsAhoy 11 месяцев назад

    Nice! ❤❤❤

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for watching!

  • @eddiesuen3711
    @eddiesuen3711 11 месяцев назад +3

    looks like shittier set boosters with less rares/mythic and a shitty list slot.

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      List slot definitely has less power it feels like, but the rares/mythics per pack are on par for a set without a bonus sheet.

    • @eddiesuen3711
      @eddiesuen3711 11 месяцев назад

      I average 57+ rare/mythic per set booster. with 36 pack per box for play booster in comes out to almost 70 per 36 packs. There is no way in hell close to 70 in all the box opening I have seen.@@RipAndShip

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      @@eddiesuen3711 which set? Cause sets with no bonus sheet don't get that high.

  • @AlbertPatterson-f3w
    @AlbertPatterson-f3w 11 месяцев назад +1

    Lmao at these lands that aren't going to go anywhere! This set is terrible!

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад +2

      I dunno, they seem pretty useful to me! They're not gonna be $20, but probably not $0.25 either.

    • @maaikevreugdemaker9210
      @maaikevreugdemaker9210 10 месяцев назад +1

      How wrong you were lol

    • @AlbertPatterson-f3w
      @AlbertPatterson-f3w 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@maaikevreugdemaker9210 agreed I was wrong lmao

  • @tendo339
    @tendo339 11 месяцев назад +1

    that set looks very meh

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      We'll see how the power level impacts people's opinions as the set starts getting played.

  • @marcoovile1907
    @marcoovile1907 11 месяцев назад

    Che brutta espansione..
    Delusione 😢

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      Not every set will be for every person.

  • @Ricardo45-n8t
    @Ricardo45-n8t 11 месяцев назад

    Since 1999 play Magic 2024 bye bye Magic.

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад +1

      You can still play with your cards you have.

    • @Ricardo45-n8t
      @Ricardo45-n8t 10 месяцев назад

      @@RipAndShip Hello, it is not because of the issue of playing itself, it is because of the issue of how the game is being played, the only thing that matters is the economic value of the cards, then the old cards, such as there are reissues, are no longer worth anything and then the exorbitant prices and speculation.

  • @Runescape99
    @Runescape99 11 месяцев назад

    Set seems boring tbh

    • @RipAndShip
      @RipAndShip  11 месяцев назад

      Once you know what the cards do, it actually seems pretty powerful.