Im with you hun, I also have ON. Its something we suffer with in silence because nobody can see our disability. The only way to live with it is to embrace something youre passionate about. Theres nothing positive about ON but it does put things in perspective. Now I cant believe the things I use to stress about. So insignificant and meaningless. ON shows you whats important in life.
Hi, I'm so sorry you've had to suffer from this. I think I may have it too, as I've been suffering for six months. May I ask what type of doctor diagnosed you and what type of test they did? I'd appreciate your help so much. Thank you 💜
Just wanted to update I ended up taking a big dose of muscle relaxers and the pain was basically gone I’ve done some research on the ON , it is possible that chronic tension can trigger and irritate the occipital nerves The problem is I believe wants the trigger starts it automatically fires signals to re tighten muscles It’s a viscous cycle to get caught up in Don’t expect to do one relaxing exercise and expect it to be gone over night It most likely will take TIME to get better
I was diagnosed with Occipital Neuralgia around 4 months ago. I have been to 3 Neurologist so far. I have had dry needling, physical therapy, medication, 1,800mg Gabapentin/ 40mg prednisone daily ( which I'm still on) MRI'S, Cat scans etc etc. Nothing has helped! Waiting for another appointment with Vanderbilt University Neurologist Dr. in November! I can't work, I can't drive a vehicle. Whole life came to a stop! I feel for anyone with this and pray for us all
I just be wanting to give up at this point. This pain in unbearable and the nerve blocks don't help at all. I understand totally what you're going through. You don't want to be bothered at all
Same here, last year started this bad sharply pain on the right side of my back head . I did CT / MRI , and everything looks good. And then specialists of Neurologia said that I have ON , they gave me medication but I didn't feel good , I felt dizzy and I can't take these medications because I have to take care for my kids. And I know these pain, really it is like a electric shock and after that my head it feels very heavy . I don't know what to do, I think that I have to deal with this pain.
Hi! I feel your pain. After 8 days of the pain of hell ( half of the head burning like in the fire and like someone trying to rip off my scalp) and spending 2 days at A&E hospital, yesterday I been diagnosed with occipital neuralgia, since I been discharged from the hospital I noticed that's I can't do anything at home and already getting worried about my work...…… Looks like I have to prepare myself for long journey...…… Hope you are much better now! xx
Alex Dubonossov Hi Alex! I’m sorry to hear that you’re also suffering from this terrible illness 😔 I’ve been dealing with it for over a year now and to be completely honest, it may seem like it gets easier but then the pain comes back stronger out of nowhere and you start hating life again. I hope that you find something that helps you. Know that you aren’t the only one and I truly understand your pain. I had to forget about work once the pain wasn’t manageable anymore and had to stop going to school. It’s been a learning process but little by little you’ll get there. Are you on Facebook? There’s Occipital Neuralgia groups you could join and that’s helped me a lot to just vent to others or ask for opinions on medications or different things to try. People are really nice. It’s a whole community of us that deal with this and it’s nice to know that we aren’t alone in this. Hope the pain is treating you good today. 🤗
@@DeeGozlan Hello! Thank you very much for your reply, It's very helpful and informative, For me feels like I have to try rebuild my life and learn to live again, but thank's God I got very good family who are supporting me and helping me at home with everyday life. I know it's bit early days for me but life made few corrections already, and I got an appointment to see the consultant but earliest appointment is in 3 months time at the end of the march, I just noticed one day I feeling fine but an other day feeling bad, it's like wave coming and going...………..just not looking forward for the next week when my children will go back to school and I'll be at home alone...……. Well, keep us updated how you are doing! Happy New Year!!, Alex
there is a cure of it in Ayurveda , I have also been suffereing from this , now it is 70 poercent cured . I am from India , In ayurveda it is completely curable
Matt Stockmann it really is! There’s so much that you gotta deal with and no one understands how you really feel even if they tried to put themselves in your shoes. Only we know what we’re going through and how painful it truly is. Everyday is such a struggle.
This is exactly how I feel, I feel the exact same things, I’m only 22, and I feel I got this from a soccer injury where the guy who was like 5x bigger than me put his entire weight on my neck. My MRI for head and brain came out normal, I’m still waiting to do a neck scan, and I’m going to Physical Therapy soon. In the beginning I was able to manage the pain for a year, but now it’s gotten to the point where I can’t anymore. So now I’m taking more action to see what I can find.
Oh girl I have been dealing with this for 5 years but has been worse the past 3 years and I can’t work I just stay home in pain no one understands what I am going through. I was hit in the head by a sledgehammer in 2010 and a was walking to work last year and was hit by a car which did not help and I just now found out why and god I pray that I can get some help and god bless you I wanna hug you I know what it is like and it really does suck so bad I feel like a hermit 😭😭😭😭😭
Sara Evans omg! I am so sorry you’ve been through all of this. 🥺 I am also just at home and try to distract myself as much as I can if not I feel like I’d go crazy 😭 I hope you’re having a good day today and that the pain isn’t bothering you too much. Thank you for taking the time to write. Sending hugs 🥰🥰🥺
Look into upper cervical chiropractor, I'm halfway through treatment, and I have had pretty good days pain free. Everybody is different but it's worth a try. I also found a doctor who does surgery in NorCal but it's expensive and the last resort but he understands our pain.
You are not alone! I'm doing school and working full time as a funeral director. Im on call all the time and I can't ever sleep anymore because the pain moves throughout the night. I feel freaking crazy. I hope things will be better for you❤❤❤
Oceann I honestly admire you for still pushing through the pain and working + going to school! 😭 I hope you find some relief soon and find the right medication. No one should go through this kind of pain 😖 Have you tried taking Melatonin to help you sleep? It makes you have a great quality sleep and you are able to sleep through the night. Take half a pill if you gotta wake up early because it’ll make you tired!
yes, ma'am. It gives me strange dreams sometimes and wakes me up in the middle of the night!! So far Benadryl has been super helpful!! Yes, work and school do not help with the pain but I love what I do and I am managing it with medication! Yes, you're right! I wouldn't wish it upon my enemy!
I was diagnosed with occipital neuralgia about 6 month know. Never ever used even one pain killer or any kind of medicine. I completely changed my diet; cut out sugar except fruit, dairy, gluten. My first 2 month is the worst but now it’s eased up. I can study, work, exercise. I think one day I will be completely get rid of this, but is really slow process.
I'm also diagnosed occipital neuralgia 2 months back , but I'm feeling that pain from last 8 months , but past 2 months I go to doctor because that pain is in its peak that time . Now it's improving, but too slowly , I do stretching and it helps . Sometimes that pain come in space between eyebrows , that time it's too painful . May god bless everyone and heal everyone fast🙏❤️ jay shree ram
I have ON 4 years ago with chronic low pain! Ive had 5 huge intense episode or crises pain that last about 30mins where i cant move and like someone stabbing me from back if head! Im on pregablin 200mg which lower pain but wondering if pain could just go away with more meds
Thanks for sharing your story, it helps so much to know that we’re not alone in our struggle with this. For what it’s worth I purchased the chirp wheel a couple weeks ago and that along with really really really strict posture, for me correcting forward head posture, has actually helped out a lot.
Hi. I have been dealing with something similar since august. I think neck pain started it but my scalp is always on fire. Sometimes I feel jabbing, prickling pain. My scalp is tender to the touch and so is my hair. I feel like I have chronic ear infections. I have tried anti depressants, neurontin, Botox, medical marijuana, muscle relaxers, tramadol. I took 2 Percocets once and that helped because it got me high. I honestly don't know what kind of neuralgia I have. I have yet to be diagnosed. I think my might be occipital but my face feels like I have a sunburn so I don't know. I too had to stop working right after getting a promotion. I have an appointment with a neurologist who deals with facial pain at the end of January-earliest I could get in. But if surgery is an option I will jump on it. I'm desperate. I hope you feel better soon!
Pale Goddess I’m so sorry to hear that you’re going through that. From the symptoms you’re describing seems like you also have Occipital Neuralgia like me and also Trigeminal Neuralgia (which is the face pain you’re feeling) definitely confirm with the neurologist. Be careful with the medication they prescribe you and do your research because the side effects have been horrible for me (extremely depressed and suicidal) and also check because some of them could affect your liver in the long run. I hope you get some relief soon and let me know how it goes on your appointment!
Same with me mine started a month a go the top of my scalp is on fire even when the pain decreses I touch the area and it is vert tender. I had an accident over 30 years a go which I have no memory of. My eyes and teeth and back of my skull was on fire.
I’m going through the worst occipital neuralgia pains right now Trust me I understand what you went through I pray 🙏🏽 that you are free from the occipital neuralgia nightmare I pray 🙏🏽 that all is well with your and your family I pray 🙏🏽 that you are blessed in Jesus Mighty Name 🙏🏽 I pray Amen
For 3 days ive been dealing with so so so bad and horrible electric shockin the back of my head last night they were so frequent and so close together I couldn't take it any more so I went to the er and this is what they told me I had 😢 I'm jus now starting my journey and I go back to work Tuesday I can't be without my job I love my job😢
hi, I had it for years. there it a surgery procedure for some patients, but I found in Europe, most doctors either wont tell you about it because they don't know, or they don't approve. it's not for everyone. but the surgeon will figure that out. It's referred to as the decompression and/or resection of the Major/Minor/3rd Occipital nerve. let me know if you need further imfo. I pray you don't suffer badly from this terrible illness.
Raven Barrett Hi! The Chiropractor did not help me at all... the pain starts at my occipital nerves and spreads all over my head down to my neck. My scalp, ears & eyes hurt really bad and at times the pain is really bad that I get fever. 🤷🏻♀️
Denisse Castaneda wow I’m so sorry to hear that, I’m trying to come to a conclusion of what I have my pain is tolerable and is only at the base of my skull and sometimes happens the side of my head. I will pray for you definitely. Is the pain constant?
Salihah it was stress for me try to relieve stress and not research your symptoms and tell yourself “excruciating pain would send me to the hospital” not to mention dehydration headaches also causes these pains
I'm so sorry. I've has ON for 4 years now. The first year was the worst, getting used to meds, getting used to pain, learning to manage it. Low dose gabapentin (to avoid side effects) and neurontin helped a bit, and when it is at its worst, ice packs. I find this works so much better than heat. Have you tried ice? I have 3 in the freezer so I can rotate them throughout the day/night. I wish I had a better solution for you :'(
You made me cry i have the same case you have. I tried not to take any anti depressant but i could not sleep for days. Mine was worst than yours because at the same time i had a panic attack last year and it’s been a year now. Actually the pain decreases on its own as you rest but the tenderness and the scalp and numbess will stay. Can you sleep without medication? Because sometime i can’t sometime i can but i dream vivid dreams.
jocelyn carillo It depends, sometimes the pain it’s really bad that I have to have something. I am no longer on any anti depressants just because of the side effects they were really bad for me. I’ve just been doing CBD oil at night and applying some lavender oil on my temples to help me calm down and be able to get a good nights rest. It’s hard finding a position that doesn’t give me more pain though. 🤷🏻♀️ I hope you’re doing well and thank you for taking the time to send a message 🥰
Hi i did get this after big panic attack have it 9 months scalp pins tightnees and nerves pain and Under my feet its vibratingor wtf dont know moře what to do all say its anxiety and i only imagine the pain 😔
Damn, got me cryin right away. I found out today that this is the name for what I have. I've had this since I was 13, after a head injury, I'll be 35 soon, I don't know life without them basicly, it's tough to say the least. The idea is to get it back into place, I would suggest being gently with yourself, physically and mentally. How I deal with them right now is ice packs and very cold air, think refrigerator air, fortunately I live in the snowy mountains so this is easy for me, get cold. Dr. Mandell RUclips channel has some noninvasive techniques that help. As the other commenter said, it dose put life into perspective, if you can hold onto that, it's about the only thing that keeps me going, one day I won't have these, and I'll be strong as a brick house. Good luck I hope you find some relief.
Please do not give up. God is right there with you. He is working and always doing what is best. I do know that our trials strengthen our relationship with God. I also hace occipital neuralgia but no where near like you do. I live you and will pray fir you.
I've had it for 23 yrs, still remember the first attack, it was like the worst hangover of all time from the right side base of my neck. The doc had no idea so I kept going to docs and one suggested ON, there was no net then so I had to research. I would manipulate myself and went to surgeons got nerve blocks etc. A few things made it worse, drinking, posture, lack of sleep, stress, if I fell asleep on the lounge and my head flopped over it would kill me when I woke up. Anyway enough of that, I experimented and found a rolled up pillow under the non painful side of my neck as I lay side ways on the bed was good when I slept.i can only sleep on my left side now. Also if I have an attack I get to the gym and get on the exercise bike for 45 min and go for it, if I heat up the pain goes away, not sure could be related to circulation. Hot showers and ice packs didn't work either. Somehow over the years the pain has stabilized to small attacks every few weeks only
Jethro X wow! Thank you for all of this info. I’m gonna try some of those things you mentioned and see if it helps me. I haven’t been able to work out at all because it truly makes it worse for me. I can’t believe you’ve been dealing with it for 23 years. 🥺 It’s about to be a year for me and it’s truly been a challenging one. 😟 Thank you for taking the time to comment and stuff I truly appreciate it!
@@DeeGozlan so don't despair and don't let it push you into depression, just treat it as a challenge to overcome and keep trying things out, another thing I found useful was getting a extra hard therapeutic pillow with the curve, hard enough that your head doesn't sink into it, then I'd sleep sideways with the painful side up so my head would be level to my body or slightly stretched, I used to get a stretch going on the nerve then take a panadol and slowly go to sleep, I found the stretching of the nerve while sleeping eleviated the pain, my theory was if I can impact the nerve enough it would become more resilient and therefore not be impacted by other triggers that would set it off. I'm pretty good these days but more every few weeks I'd have a bad neck day which isn't too bad. The gym workouts I'd do trap shrugs and presses that again stretched the nerve plus chins and bench which also stretched it, but like I said it was the bike workout that actually stopped the attack just had to get my heart beating and listen to loud music and it was gone in 45 min
Jethro X Ever since I made this video over the past couple of months I’ve become more accepting of what I have and more positive so I am doing my best to keep going. thank you for all of those tips. I’ve honestly tried all kinds of different pillows and it’s hard to find the right one 🤷🏻♀️ Im going to slowly get back in the gym and try the workouts you suggested hopefully that helps me. I like going in the sauna 🧖🏽♀️
I've had it for over 2 years, it changes but overall it gets worse. I think electric heating pads cause more problems. Some new feather pillows helped for awhile, hard pillows are the worst. Sleeping on your side if much better than on your front. Sorry you have this as you are so young.
It truly is hard living with this and I definitely noticed that it just gets worse and worse. It’s hard to find a good sleeping position that doesn’t make the pain worse so I feel you on that one. I hope you’re doing good and thank you for taking the time to comment I truly appreciate it 🥰🥰
@@DeeGozlan you should atleast try, it might change your life, I say this cause I understand your pain, since I've had it for over a month but it's already gotten much better, good luck to you, I hope it goes away
Isabel Escobar I’m sorry to hear that you’re also struggling with this. 🥺 I hope you’re having a good day today. Thank you for taking the time to comment ☺️
maybe you can try excedrin tension headache im dealing with non stop neck and headaches don't know what to do going through the same thing hope things get better or have..
Hello dear. I've also been suffering with this condition for the past 3 months. Can you please reply to me and give me a little hope? I can't do anything anymore. Every day I am having suicidal thoughts. Can we maybe get in contact? I'm in Austria, Europe. The doctors here couldn't care less :( I'm just so exhausted....
Hi Christian! I’m sorry to hear that you’re also suffering from ON. We’re literally the same age and I know it sucks because we’re so young with a whole life ahead of us. The only thing that I can tell you is that it gets better. 🥺 I remember how bad it was in the beginning for me. I was also suicidal and extremely depressed. Are you on any medication? I couldn’t do anything at all but stay in bed and cry. It took me about a year to get “better” and by better I mean... being able to do little things here and there like cleaning, cooking, going on walks and stuff like that. But it does get better. Our head somehow gets “used” to the pain and it becomes more manageable after some time. Obviously, the pain is still there for me every single day but I’ve learned to cope with it better and keep myself distracted as much as I can so that I don’t think about my pain so much. Some days are worse than the others but I somehow make it work. I’m here for you if you need someone to listen. My IG is @denissegozlan send me a message and we can talk! Again, I am so sorry that you’re also suffering from this.
Lana Sabti I am still feeling horrible, if anything the pain has gotten worse and also nothing has helped so far. I am currently on no medications because the side effects have taken a toll on my body. So still dealing with it 🥺 I hope you’re feeling better 🤕
Check out the Watson Headache approach, i hear it has some good results, also find a therapist who can mobilise your joints and work the soft tissue in a delicate way. Also start endurance sport ie running, cycling, swimming, this will help with the pain.
After 10 years of suffering from ON, and taking more types of pills than I can recall, acupuncture, Botox, nerve blocks and ablutions, I finally convinced my doctors to try an implanted neuro stimulator. It’s not perfect and I still take some pain meds and a muscle relaxer, but the Neuro stimulator brings the pain down to a level to where the pain meds actually work to a point of managing the pain. Prior to that I had to take so much pain meds to just numb myself and pass out. Countless nights I went to bed praying to not ever wake up because I knew what I would be waking up to. Anyway, not all health insurances will pay for the $40k plus procedure (mine didn’t) because it’s an “off label” use of the normal spinal cord stimulator. For me it was that or likely one day getting tired of living with all the misery and doing the unthinkable. Anyway, I wish you luck.
Hello I have the same symptoms and have been dealing with these symptoms for over a year. I’m so sorry your suffering with this also. Have you gotten any better has anything helped you?
Salihah im so sorry to hear that you’re going through the same 🥺 No, nothing has helped me so far. I had to stop all medications because it took a toll on my body and made me worse 😭. So hopefully soon I’ll be able to find something that works on me and that doesn’t have horrible side effects 🥺. I hope you’re doing good, sending love 💕 thank you for taking the time to write me.
@@cgg1980 came home 4 hours ago I was alright when I went out my eyes started watering immediately my right aye and pain in the neck I looked at the mirror my right eye as black and wattery in the corner I removed the watter then the pain eased it's weird it happens everyday
Hi lovely, I hope you get this comment - I'm so sorry you're going through this, I understand how awful chronic pain is. How are you doing now? I'm pretty certain I have occipital neuralgia too and I've been living with this horrible pain for 6 months now. I was just wondering what type of doctor diagnosed you? And how did they diagnose you, like what type of test? If you can please let me know so I can move forward! Thank you so much ❤️ P.s. your dog is PRECIOUS! My husband and my dogs are my life too! Lol. I'm very fortunate to have them, thankful everyday.
I have tried every single therapy including medication known to man. On June 20th 2018 I broke down and had nerve decompression surgery. Get on Facebook if you are on there and join the occipital neuralgia decompression surgery group. This surgery is relatively new and it is also called the migraine surgery. I flew from Tennessee to Jacksonville Florida and had my surgery done by doctor Michael Fallucco at Florida plastic surgery group. There is also doctor Ziv Peled in California and Adam Lowenstein in Colorado. There are tons of plastic surgeons who do this surgery. Usually this is done by a plastic surgeon because it is surgery of the skin and muscle. Very few neurosurgeons do it. Rarely you may find an orthopedist who will. Good luck to you. Surgery helped me. I'm not pain free but my pain is MUCH lower and easier to live with and manage. I had bilateral decompression of my greater occipital nerves and my thirds where excised. Dr. Peled is the best though and closest to you if you live in LA! You are lucky in that sense!
Hi Kelly, I am strongly considering having this surgery done. Did your insurance cover this procedure? If not, would you be able to disclose the cost? I'm concerned my insurance won't cover out of state care, if I choose to go that route.
the surgery is only covered by few insurances. mine did not cover it. my total cost was $8k. There are facebook groups about occipital neuralgia and the surgery. They are super helpful.
Hi ...I know I suffer my self. UHEN y go to bed use could push. ON day time use hot pach. ALSO take Vitamin B12. Walk everyday at least one hour a day. Tary to be Positive. Don't listen to bad news.
SLing GoKu ShAnK I’m sorry to hear that you’re going through the same 🥺 no one should relate to this kind of pain. Thank you for your kind wishes. I hope you feel better soon!
I myself suffered from occipital neuralgia please look up Nucca Chiropratic not your regular chiropractor no popping no cracking no medications.. My atlas was shift out of place the atlas is the one that holds your head and allows for your rotation to take place you must have a pinched nerve somewhere and your atlas needs to be adjust..Please give it a try and look it up I really thought my life was over I was desperate i’m no longer suffering and now pain free.
jess559300 I definitely looked into and with more research I might give it a try if it gets approved. Thank you for your suggestion and sharing with me, I truly appreciate it! ❤️
So, I have it as well. All you need to do is neck stretches. Mine came out of no where and the pain was constant. An 8 every damn day for 3 months. You will, I promise, get relief stretches your neck. Your occipital region and SCM muscles. Put a heating pad on your neck first to loosen them up. Do neck rolls to determine the tighter areas. Then pull your head down and stretch the fuck out of those muscles. Then heat pad them again. Stretch again and take a ibuprofen and rest. Your muscles are what’s squeezing your nerves. You won’t regret it. I thought there was NO way muscles were causing me so much pain. I cried every day! I was desperate. Fucking muscles squeezing my nerves!!! Just do it every day and work the hell out of those muscles. Pull your head down as you rotate to stretch them. Let me know how it’s working for you. Note, my eye blurriness did not ease up but my pain went from an 8 to a 1-2. I’ve realized I really need to work this out and heal. Mine started in January and I dealt with the pain till end of March. My ears was the worst of my symptoms. The pressure was awful and my quality of life sucked. Just do it. You will see a difference.
I forgot to mention to massage them as well. I came across your video when I was searching for solutions for my pain. It’s the worst pain! I’ve only been doing this for a weeks but the difference is night and day. I know this will take time... I still have ringing in my right ear but I’ll take it in comparison.
Thank you for this! I do neck stretches and stuff just like my chiropractor and Physical therapist do it doesn’t take the pain away fully but definitely tones it down a bit and at this point anything helps. Glad this is working for you! 🤗 Thank you for taking the time to write I truly appreciate it.
Bictor Briseno I’m so sorry to hear that! It’s SO painful so I know what you’re going through 😩 I have joined some Facebook groups of people that have the same thing and it’s always nice to go and vent with others that suffer from the same.
Denisse Castaneda I too was recently diagnosed. I will be getting occipital nerve blocks on the 12/31. Medication has not worked. I feel the same, just down and in pain.
Nancy Delacruz I am so sorry to hear that sweetie! I tried the nerve blocks and they didn’t help much for me. It is painful the day after where they inject you the steroids though so just be prepared to have more pain than normal. I wish you the best of luck and I hope you have some relief from the pain. If you need someone to talk to, I’m here for you. 💕
Alright. . Stop crying in order to make your video something special. The whole world suffers from it I, myself suffers BADLY BADLY BADLY everyday in TREMENDOUS AGONY I do not cry I deal with it
Im with you hun, I also have ON. Its something we suffer with in silence because nobody can see our disability. The only way to live with it is to embrace something youre passionate about. Theres nothing positive about ON but it does put things in perspective. Now I cant believe the things I use to stress about. So insignificant and meaningless. ON shows you whats important in life.
Hi, I'm so sorry you've had to suffer from this. I think I may have it too, as I've been suffering for six months. May I ask what type of doctor diagnosed you and what type of test they did? I'd appreciate your help so much. Thank you 💜
Just wanted to update
I ended up taking a big dose of muscle relaxers and the pain was basically gone
I’ve done some research on the ON , it is possible that chronic tension can trigger and irritate the occipital nerves
The problem is I believe wants the trigger starts it automatically fires signals to re tighten muscles
It’s a viscous cycle to get caught up in
Don’t expect to do one relaxing exercise and expect it to be gone over night
It most likely will take TIME to get better
I was diagnosed with Occipital Neuralgia around 4 months ago. I have been to 3 Neurologist so far. I have had dry needling, physical therapy, medication, 1,800mg Gabapentin/ 40mg prednisone daily ( which I'm still on) MRI'S, Cat scans etc etc. Nothing has helped! Waiting for another appointment with Vanderbilt University Neurologist Dr. in November! I can't work, I can't drive a vehicle. Whole life came to a stop! I feel for anyone with this and pray for us all
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How are you give us updates
I just be wanting to give up at this point. This pain in unbearable and the nerve blocks don't help at all. I understand totally what you're going through. You don't want to be bothered at all
Same here, last year started this bad sharply pain on the right side of my back head .
I did CT / MRI , and everything looks good.
And then specialists of Neurologia said that I have ON , they gave me medication but I didn't feel good , I felt dizzy and I can't take these medications because I have to take care for my kids.
And I know these pain, really it is like a electric shock and after that my head it feels very heavy .
I don't know what to do, I think that I have to deal with this pain.
Hi! I feel your pain. After 8 days of the pain of hell ( half of the head burning like in the fire and like someone trying to rip off my scalp) and spending 2 days at A&E hospital, yesterday I been diagnosed with occipital neuralgia, since I been discharged from the hospital I noticed that's I can't do anything at home and already getting worried about my work...…… Looks like I have to prepare myself for long journey...…… Hope you are much better now! xx
Alex Dubonossov Hi Alex!
I’m sorry to hear that you’re also suffering from this terrible illness 😔
I’ve been dealing with it for over a year now and to be completely honest, it may seem like it gets easier but then the pain comes back stronger out of nowhere and you start hating life again. I hope that you find something that helps you. Know that you aren’t the only one and I truly understand your pain.
I had to forget about work once the pain wasn’t manageable anymore and had to stop going to school. It’s been a learning process but little by little you’ll get there. Are you on Facebook? There’s Occipital Neuralgia groups you could join and that’s helped me a lot to just vent to others or ask for opinions on medications or different things to try. People are really nice. It’s a whole community of us that deal with this and it’s nice to know that we aren’t alone in this.
Hope the pain is treating you good today. 🤗
Alex Dubonossov
Here’s a link of the two groups I joined:
facebook.com/groups/44913483837/?ref=share
facebook.com/groups/932801466811041/?ref=share
@@DeeGozlan Hello! Thank you very much for your reply, It's very helpful and informative, For me feels like I have to try rebuild my life and learn to live again, but thank's God I got very good family who are supporting me and helping me at home with everyday life. I know it's bit early days for me but life made few corrections already, and I got an appointment to see the consultant but earliest appointment is in 3 months time at the end of the march, I just noticed one day I feeling fine but an other day feeling bad, it's like wave coming and going...………..just not looking forward for the next week when my children will go back to school and I'll be at home alone...…….
Well, keep us updated how you are doing!
Happy New Year!!,
Alex
there is a cure of it in Ayurveda , I have also been suffereing from this , now it is 70 poercent cured . I am from India , In ayurveda it is completely curable
www.planetayurveda.com/ayurvedic-treatment-for-trigeminal-neuralgia/
godspeed. chronic pain is soul crushing.
Matt Stockmann it really is! There’s so much that you gotta deal with and no one understands how you really feel even if they tried to put themselves in your shoes. Only we know what we’re going through and how painful it truly is. Everyday is such a struggle.
This is exactly how I feel, I feel the exact same things, I’m only 22, and I feel I got this from a soccer injury where the guy who was like 5x bigger than me put his entire weight on my neck. My MRI for head and brain came out normal, I’m still waiting to do a neck scan, and I’m going to Physical Therapy soon. In the beginning I was able to manage the pain for a year, but now it’s gotten to the point where I can’t anymore. So now I’m taking more action to see what I can find.
Oh girl I have been dealing with this for 5 years but has been worse the past 3 years and I can’t work I just stay home in pain no one understands what I am going through. I was hit in the head by a sledgehammer in 2010 and a was walking to work last year and was hit by a car which did not help and I just now found out why and god I pray that I can get some help and god bless you I wanna hug you I know what it is like and it really does suck so bad I feel like a hermit 😭😭😭😭😭
Sara Evans omg! I am so sorry you’ve been through all of this. 🥺 I am also just at home and try to distract myself as much as I can if not I feel like I’d go crazy 😭 I hope you’re having a good day today and that the pain isn’t bothering you too much. Thank you for taking the time to write. Sending hugs 🥰🥰🥺
Look into upper cervical chiropractor, I'm halfway through treatment, and I have had pretty good days pain free. Everybody is different but it's worth a try. I also found a doctor who does surgery in NorCal but it's expensive and the last resort but he understands our pain.
If you don’t mind sharing Which chiro did you see.
You are not alone! I'm doing school and working full time as a funeral director. Im on call all the time and I can't ever sleep anymore because the pain moves throughout the night. I feel freaking crazy. I hope things will be better for you❤❤❤
Oceann I honestly admire you for still pushing through the pain and working + going to school! 😭 I hope you find some relief soon and find the right medication. No one should go through this kind of pain 😖 Have you tried taking Melatonin to help you sleep? It makes you have a great quality sleep and you are able to sleep through the night. Take half a pill if you gotta wake up early because it’ll make you tired!
yes, ma'am. It gives me strange dreams sometimes and wakes me up in the middle of the night!! So far Benadryl has been super helpful!! Yes, work and school do not help with the pain but I love what I do and I am managing it with medication! Yes, you're right! I wouldn't wish it upon my enemy!
I was diagnosed with occipital neuralgia about 6 month know. Never ever used even one pain killer or any kind of medicine. I completely changed my diet; cut out sugar except fruit, dairy, gluten. My first 2 month is the worst but now it’s eased up. I can study, work, exercise. I think one day I will be completely get rid of this, but is really slow process.
That is amazing that that’s worked for you ❤️❤️ Does it get worse for you during the colder months?
@@DeeGozlan no it’s not I’m doing daily neck stretch and eating healthy. I have no symptoms now. I hope you’re better. 🌸
I'm also diagnosed occipital neuralgia 2 months back , but I'm feeling that pain from last 8 months , but past 2 months I go to doctor because that pain is in its peak that time . Now it's improving, but too slowly , I do stretching and it helps . Sometimes that pain come in space between eyebrows , that time it's too painful . May god bless everyone and heal everyone fast🙏❤️ jay shree ram
I have ON 4 years ago with chronic low pain! Ive had 5 huge intense episode or crises pain that last about 30mins where i cant move and like someone stabbing me from back if head! Im on pregablin 200mg which lower pain but wondering if pain could just go away with more meds
Thanks for sharing your story, it helps so much to know that we’re not alone in our struggle with this. For what it’s worth I purchased the chirp wheel a couple weeks ago and that along with really really really strict posture, for me correcting forward head posture, has actually helped out a lot.
Hi. I have been dealing with something similar since august. I think neck pain started it but my scalp is always on fire. Sometimes I feel jabbing, prickling pain. My scalp is tender to the touch and so is my hair. I feel like I have chronic ear infections. I have tried anti depressants, neurontin, Botox, medical marijuana, muscle relaxers, tramadol. I took 2 Percocets once and that helped because it got me high. I honestly don't know what kind of neuralgia I have. I have yet to be diagnosed. I think my might be occipital but my face feels like I have a sunburn so I don't know. I too had to stop working right after getting a promotion. I have an appointment with a neurologist who deals with facial pain at the end of January-earliest I could get in. But if surgery is an option I will jump on it. I'm desperate. I hope you feel better soon!
Pale Goddess I’m so sorry to hear that you’re going through that. From the symptoms you’re describing seems like you also have Occipital Neuralgia like me and also Trigeminal Neuralgia (which is the face pain you’re feeling) definitely confirm with the neurologist. Be careful with the medication they prescribe you and do your research because the side effects have been horrible for me (extremely depressed and suicidal) and also check because some of them could affect your liver in the long run. I hope you get some relief soon and let me know how it goes on your appointment!
Same with me mine started a month a go the top of my scalp is on fire even when the pain decreses I touch the area and it is vert tender. I had an accident over 30 years a go which I have no memory of. My eyes and teeth and back of my skull was on fire.
I’m going through the worst occipital neuralgia pains right now Trust me I understand what you went through I pray 🙏🏽 that you are free from the occipital neuralgia nightmare I pray 🙏🏽 that all is well with your and your family I pray 🙏🏽 that you are blessed in Jesus Mighty Name 🙏🏽 I pray Amen
For 3 days ive been dealing with so so so bad and horrible electric shockin the back of my head last night they were so frequent and so close together I couldn't take it any more so I went to the er and this is what they told me I had 😢 I'm jus now starting my journey and I go back to work Tuesday I can't be without my job I love my job😢
hi, I had it for years. there it a surgery procedure for some patients, but I found in Europe, most doctors either wont tell you about it because they don't know, or they don't approve. it's not for everyone. but the surgeon will figure that out. It's referred to as the decompression and/or resection of the Major/Minor/3rd Occipital nerve. let me know if you need further imfo. I pray you don't suffer badly from this terrible illness.
how did you fix it, please help
I had it too. is worsen i had a psoriasis too. Im confuse what should i dealing first.
Did the chiropractor help? Did he perform an adjustment? Where does the pain start does it shoot over your entire scalp?
Raven Barrett Hi!
The Chiropractor did not help me at all... the pain starts at my occipital nerves and spreads all over my head down to my neck. My scalp, ears & eyes hurt really bad and at times the pain is really bad that I get fever. 🤷🏻♀️
Denisse Castaneda wow I’m so sorry to hear that, I’m trying to come to a conclusion of what I have my pain is tolerable and is only at the base of my skull and sometimes happens the side of my head. I will pray for you definitely. Is the pain constant?
Hello I’m also suffering with very similar symptoms to yours. Has anything helped you?
Salihah it was stress for me try to relieve stress and not research your symptoms and tell yourself “excruciating pain would send me to the hospital” not to mention dehydration headaches also causes these pains
Anybody try a nerve block?
Yes! I’ve tried them but they did nothing for my pain. 😐
I'm so sorry. I've has ON for 4 years now. The first year was the worst, getting used to meds, getting used to pain, learning to manage it. Low dose gabapentin (to avoid side effects) and neurontin helped a bit, and when it is at its worst, ice packs. I find this works so much better than heat. Have you tried ice? I have 3 in the freezer so I can rotate them throughout the day/night. I wish I had a better solution for you :'(
You made me cry i have the same case you have. I tried not to take any anti depressant but i could not sleep for days. Mine was worst than yours because at the same time i had a panic attack last year and it’s been a year now. Actually the pain decreases on its own as you rest but the tenderness and the scalp and numbess will stay.
Can you sleep without medication? Because sometime i can’t sometime i can but i dream vivid dreams.
jocelyn carillo It depends, sometimes the pain it’s really bad that I have to have something. I am no longer on any anti depressants just because of the side effects they were really bad for me. I’ve just been doing CBD oil at night and applying some lavender oil on my temples to help me calm down and be able to get a good nights rest. It’s hard finding a position that doesn’t give me more pain though. 🤷🏻♀️
I hope you’re doing well and thank you for taking the time to send a message 🥰
Hi i did get this after big panic attack have it 9 months scalp pins tightnees and nerves pain and Under my feet its vibratingor wtf dont know moře what to do all say its anxiety and i only imagine the pain 😔
You are so strong and uplifting hope you’re doing better and are safe god bless you you’re such a sweet person hope you’re doing better
Damn, got me cryin right away. I found out today that this is the name for what I have. I've had this since I was 13, after a head injury, I'll be 35 soon, I don't know life without them basicly, it's tough to say the least.
The idea is to get it back into place, I would suggest being gently with yourself, physically and mentally.
How I deal with them right now is ice packs and very cold air, think refrigerator air, fortunately I live in the snowy mountains so this is easy for me, get cold. Dr. Mandell RUclips channel has some noninvasive techniques that help.
As the other commenter said, it dose put life into perspective, if you can hold onto that, it's about the only thing that keeps me going, one day I won't have these, and I'll be strong as a brick house. Good luck I hope you find some relief.
Please do not give up. God is right there with you. He is working and always doing what is best. I do know that our trials strengthen our relationship with God. I also hace occipital neuralgia but no where near like you do. I live you and will pray fir you.
Please send me the link for the group. So I can join it.
Isabel Escobar facebook.com/groups/44913483837/?ref=share
@@DeeGozlan can i join too? please! i also have symptoms of ON and looking for relief.
Have you tried atlas orthogonal
I've had it for 23 yrs, still remember the first attack, it was like the worst hangover of all time from the right side base of my neck. The doc had no idea so I kept going to docs and one suggested ON, there was no net then so I had to research. I would manipulate myself and went to surgeons got nerve blocks etc. A few things made it worse, drinking, posture, lack of sleep, stress, if I fell asleep on the lounge and my head flopped over it would kill me when I woke up. Anyway enough of that, I experimented and found a rolled up pillow under the non painful side of my neck as I lay side ways on the bed was good when I slept.i can only sleep on my left side now. Also if I have an attack I get to the gym and get on the exercise bike for 45 min and go for it, if I heat up the pain goes away, not sure could be related to circulation. Hot showers and ice packs didn't work either. Somehow over the years the pain has stabilized to small attacks every few weeks only
Jethro X wow! Thank you for all of this info. I’m gonna try some of those things you mentioned and see if it helps me. I haven’t been able to work out at all because it truly makes it worse for me. I can’t believe you’ve been dealing with it for 23 years. 🥺 It’s about to be a year for me and it’s truly been a challenging one. 😟 Thank you for taking the time to comment and stuff I truly appreciate it!
@@DeeGozlan so don't despair and don't let it push you into depression, just treat it as a challenge to overcome and keep trying things out, another thing I found useful was getting a extra hard therapeutic pillow with the curve, hard enough that your head doesn't sink into it, then I'd sleep sideways with the painful side up so my head would be level to my body or slightly stretched, I used to get a stretch going on the nerve then take a panadol and slowly go to sleep, I found the stretching of the nerve while sleeping eleviated the pain, my theory was if I can impact the nerve enough it would become more resilient and therefore not be impacted by other triggers that would set it off. I'm pretty good these days but more every few weeks I'd have a bad neck day which isn't too bad. The gym workouts I'd do trap shrugs and presses that again stretched the nerve plus chins and bench which also stretched it, but like I said it was the bike workout that actually stopped the attack just had to get my heart beating and listen to loud music and it was gone in 45 min
Jethro X Ever since I made this video over the past couple of months I’ve become more accepting of what I have and more positive so I am doing my best to keep going. thank you for all of those tips. I’ve honestly tried all kinds of different pillows and it’s hard to find the right one 🤷🏻♀️ Im going to slowly get back in the gym and try the workouts you suggested hopefully that helps me. I like going in the sauna 🧖🏽♀️
@@DeeGozlan I never tried the sauna, that would be interesting to see if it has any effect
I've had it for over 2 years, it changes but overall it gets worse. I think electric heating pads cause more problems. Some new feather pillows helped for awhile, hard pillows are the worst. Sleeping on your side if much better than on your front. Sorry you have this as you are so young.
It truly is hard living with this and I definitely noticed that it just gets worse and worse. It’s hard to find a good sleeping position that doesn’t make the pain worse so I feel you on that one. I hope you’re doing good and thank you for taking the time to comment I truly appreciate it 🥰🥰
Is there no surgery for this? If it doesn't go away I'm gonna get it done, do you not want to have it done?
There is a decompression surgery but it’s not guaranteed to take the pain away to be honest so it’s a personal choice.
@@DeeGozlan you should atleast try, it might change your life, I say this cause I understand your pain, since I've had it for over a month but it's already gotten much better, good luck to you, I hope it goes away
Thank you so much! Glad it’s worked for you.
Maybe in the future. 🤷🏻♀️
I have it . For 2 months now. I have been in chronic pain for 28 years from djd as well . Hope you are feeling better
I heard you friend! I do also suffer from this debilitating pain. I'm sick of it, sick of been sick with it.
Isabel Escobar I’m sorry to hear that you’re also struggling with this. 🥺 I hope you’re having a good day today. Thank you for taking the time to comment ☺️
@@DeeGozlan ❤
Hi has there been any changes?
It's been a year for me without treatment 😐 I feel your pain fully both mentally and physically
maybe you can try excedrin tension headache im dealing with non stop neck and headaches don't know what to do going through the same thing hope things get better or have..
Excedrin causes rebound headaches
Hello dear. I've also been suffering with this condition for the past 3 months. Can you please reply to me and give me a little hope? I can't do anything anymore. Every day I am having suicidal thoughts. Can we maybe get in contact? I'm in Austria, Europe. The doctors here couldn't care less :( I'm just so exhausted....
I got this after shingles ony scalp. Worst. Pain. Ever.
Hi Christian! I’m sorry to hear that you’re also suffering from ON. We’re literally the same age and I know it sucks because we’re so young with a whole life ahead of us. The only thing that I can tell you is that it gets better. 🥺 I remember how bad it was in the beginning for me. I was also suicidal and extremely depressed. Are you on any medication?
I couldn’t do anything at all but stay in bed and cry. It took me about a year to get “better” and by better I mean... being able to do little things here and there like cleaning, cooking, going on walks and stuff like that. But it does get better. Our head somehow gets “used” to the pain and it becomes more manageable after some time. Obviously, the pain is still there for me every single day but I’ve learned to cope with it better and keep myself distracted as much as I can so that I don’t think about my pain so much. Some days are worse than the others but I somehow make it work.
I’m here for you if you need someone to listen. My IG is @denissegozlan send me a message and we can talk! Again, I am so sorry that you’re also suffering from this.
Can I ask how r u feeling now ? Nd what worked for u please? I have been suffering from ON for almost a year now.
Lana Sabti I am still feeling horrible, if anything the pain has gotten worse and also nothing has helped so far. I am currently on no medications because the side effects have taken a toll on my body. So still dealing with it 🥺 I hope you’re feeling better 🤕
Check out the Watson Headache approach, i hear it has some good results, also find a therapist who can mobilise your joints and work the soft tissue in a delicate way. Also start endurance sport ie running, cycling, swimming, this will help with the pain.
Thank you for your suggestions!! ❤️❤️❤️
I have just got this, it started last Monday.
I’m sorry to hear that you’re also dealing with this 🥺
After 10 years of suffering from ON, and taking more types of pills than I can recall, acupuncture, Botox, nerve blocks and ablutions, I finally convinced my doctors to try an implanted neuro stimulator. It’s not perfect and I still take some pain meds and a muscle relaxer, but the Neuro stimulator brings the pain down to a level to where the pain meds actually work to a point of managing the pain. Prior to that I had to take so much pain meds to just numb myself and pass out. Countless nights I went to bed praying to not ever wake up because I knew what I would be waking up to. Anyway, not all health insurances will pay for the $40k plus procedure (mine didn’t) because it’s an “off label” use of the normal spinal cord stimulator. For me it was that or likely one day getting tired of living with all the misery and doing the unthinkable. Anyway, I wish you luck.
How have you been feeling Denise ? How’s the ON?
Hello I have the same symptoms and have been dealing with these symptoms for over a year. I’m so sorry your suffering with this also. Have you gotten any better has anything helped you?
Salihah im so sorry to hear that you’re going through the same 🥺 No, nothing has helped me so far. I had to stop all medications because it took a toll on my body and made me worse 😭. So hopefully soon I’ll be able to find something that works on me and that doesn’t have horrible side effects 🥺. I hope you’re doing good, sending love 💕 thank you for taking the time to write me.
I'm going through the same thing I feel for you. This has me tearing up. I understand it's ruined my life. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Please answer ..did u have eye pain everyday when you go out?
scouse nofeyzulla hi! No. Some days the eye pain was really bad others tolerable or sometimes I wouldn’t get the eye pain at all.
Yes I am having all symptoms she mentioned
@@cgg1980 came home 4 hours ago I was alright when I went out my eyes started watering immediately my right aye and pain in the neck I looked at the mirror my right eye as black and wattery in the corner I removed the watter then the pain eased it's weird it happens everyday
I got ON and i stop all med..coz. its not help..im talking stem cell like stc30 its hepl me a lot sorry to hear but pls..try stem cell its help a lot
I’m sorry I feel you. So terrible
Hi lovely, I hope you get this comment - I'm so sorry you're going through this, I understand how awful chronic pain is. How are you doing now? I'm pretty certain I have occipital neuralgia too and I've been living with this horrible pain for 6 months now. I was just wondering what type of doctor diagnosed you? And how did they diagnose you, like what type of test? If you can please let me know so I can move forward! Thank you so much ❤️
P.s. your dog is PRECIOUS! My husband and my dogs are my life too! Lol. I'm very fortunate to have them, thankful everyday.
I have tried every single therapy including medication known to man. On June 20th 2018 I broke down and had nerve decompression surgery. Get on Facebook if you are on there and join the occipital neuralgia decompression surgery group. This surgery is relatively new and it is also called the migraine surgery. I flew from Tennessee to Jacksonville Florida and had my surgery done by doctor Michael Fallucco at Florida plastic surgery group. There is also doctor Ziv Peled in California and Adam Lowenstein in Colorado. There are tons of plastic surgeons who do this surgery. Usually this is done by a plastic surgeon because it is surgery of the skin and muscle. Very few neurosurgeons do it. Rarely you may find an orthopedist who will. Good luck to you. Surgery helped me. I'm not pain free but my pain is MUCH lower and easier to live with and manage. I had bilateral decompression of my greater occipital nerves and my thirds where excised. Dr. Peled is the best though and closest to you if you live in LA! You are lucky in that sense!
Hi Kelly, I am strongly considering having this surgery done. Did your insurance cover this procedure? If not, would you be able to disclose the cost? I'm concerned my insurance won't cover out of state care, if I choose to go that route.
the surgery is only covered by few insurances. mine did not cover it. my total cost was $8k. There are facebook groups about occipital neuralgia and the surgery. They are super helpful.
Hello have you tried stem cells?
I’m in the middle of this horrible shit right now .
I’m sorry 🥹
Hang in there Sweetheart!
You are a trooper.
Hi ...I know I suffer my self. UHEN y go to bed use could push. ON day time use hot pach. ALSO take Vitamin B12. Walk everyday at least one hour a day. Tary to be Positive. Don't listen to bad news.
Thank you for this!
I have this as well it’s dibilating
Try graston teqnique
I feel your pain.😥😥😢😢 I'm going through it. 😭😭😢😢Get well soon.
SLing GoKu ShAnK I’m sorry to hear that you’re going through the same 🥺 no one should relate to this kind of pain. Thank you for your kind wishes. I hope you feel better soon!
Denisse I can’t tell u how much ur response means to me. I will keep you posted.
Pale Goddess Sooo... how was your doctors visit?
How are you sweetie?
I myself suffered from occipital neuralgia please look up Nucca Chiropratic not your regular chiropractor no popping no cracking no medications.. My atlas was shift out of place the atlas is the one that holds your head and allows for your rotation to take place you must have a pinched nerve somewhere and your atlas needs to be adjust..Please give it a try and look it up I really thought my life was over I was desperate i’m no longer suffering and now pain free.
jess559300 I definitely looked into and with more research I might give it a try if it gets approved. Thank you for your suggestion and sharing with me, I truly appreciate it! ❤️
Hello I’m also suffering with ON. How soon did you notice a difference with the atlas adjustment? I’m thinking of trying it.
Please share more details on your experience with NUCCA.
Enterate Nueva York I haven’t been able to try a NUCCA chiropractor 🤷🏻♀️
jess559300 hi! I found a NUCCA chiropractor and have set up an appointment with him. May I contact you privately?
So, I have it as well. All you need to do is neck stretches. Mine came out of no where and the pain was constant. An 8 every damn day for 3 months. You will, I promise, get relief stretches your neck. Your occipital region and SCM muscles. Put a heating pad on your neck first to loosen them up. Do neck rolls to determine the tighter areas. Then pull your head down and stretch the fuck out of those muscles. Then heat pad them again. Stretch again and take a ibuprofen and rest. Your muscles are what’s squeezing your nerves. You won’t regret it. I thought there was NO way muscles were causing me so much pain. I cried every day! I was desperate. Fucking muscles squeezing my nerves!!! Just do it every day and work the hell out of those muscles. Pull your head down as you rotate to stretch them. Let me know how it’s working for you. Note, my eye blurriness did not ease up but my pain went from an 8 to a 1-2. I’ve realized I really need to work this out and heal. Mine started in January and I dealt with the pain till end of March. My ears was the worst of my symptoms. The pressure was awful and my quality of life sucked. Just do it. You will see a difference.
I forgot to mention to massage them as well. I came across your video when I was searching for solutions for my pain. It’s the worst pain! I’ve only been doing this for a weeks but the difference is night and day. I know this will take time... I still have ringing in my right ear but I’ll take it in comparison.
Thank you for this! I do neck stretches and stuff just like my chiropractor and Physical therapist do it doesn’t take the pain away fully but definitely tones it down a bit and at this point anything helps. Glad this is working for you! 🤗 Thank you for taking the time to write I truly appreciate it.
I feel you i have the same shit
Bictor Briseno I’m so sorry to hear that! It’s SO painful so I know what you’re going through 😩 I have joined some Facebook groups of people that have the same thing and it’s always nice to go and vent with others that suffer from the same.
Whats the face book page
Bictor Briseno here’s the link to their profile facebook.com/groups/44913483837/
Denisse Castaneda I too was recently diagnosed. I will be getting occipital nerve blocks on the 12/31. Medication has not worked. I feel the same, just down and in pain.
Nancy Delacruz I am so sorry to hear that sweetie! I tried the nerve blocks and they didn’t help much for me. It is painful the day after where they inject you the steroids though so just be prepared to have more pain than normal. I wish you the best of luck and I hope you have some relief from the pain. If you need someone to talk to, I’m here for you. 💕
Gabapentine is good and safe
Gabapentin did not work for me at all. It only left me with even worse side effects
no te sientas mal deniss. aunke lejos pero sabes que estoy contigo . no espero que vengas pero me puedes marcar tu tienes mi numero.
Decompression nerve surgery pls look into it. I pray healing over you in Jesus name.
Alright. .
Stop crying in order to make your video something special.
The whole world suffers from it
I, myself suffers BADLY BADLY BADLY everyday in TREMENDOUS AGONY
I do not cry I deal with it
Don’t tell me how to deal with MY PAIN.
I have just got this, it started last Monday.
How are you feeling now?