Steve please do a collabo with Sean for Rp150 vs 500. How does the 500/600 compare in treble to the rp150??? Everyone seems to say that its quite a bit better. I thought the rp150 treble was not as refined compared to otehr speakers in the sub 1000 category.
@@chrisselner5005 Appreciate the collab encouragement. Cant answer those questions though as I'm not familiar with the speakers that you're referencing.
I completely agree with the collaboration idea. Get 3 or 4 of you together with different tastes and each can share and comment on how it the product does for each of you.
By far the best RP-600M review on-line. Thank you very much. I almost exclusivity only watch you and Steve at this point . Thank you and keep up the hard work.
I purchased one pair. Your review is spot-on! The principal character is balanced, balanced, balanced. Bass is good, but a Subwoofer helps below 50 Hz. Really, truly satisfying. A raving good bookshelf design. There a-re better ones For Triple the Price (like my LS50), but noticed only in A/B comparison.
Having listened to Klipsch (La Scala) speakers years ago at a friends I can say that I liked them. Trouble is, as you surmise, most folks either like or hate the horn sound.To me it is kinda forward and P. A. associated. Klipsch, Electro-Voice and Altec are some brands noted for their "west coast " sound. That Klipsch is still building a quality product after all these years is a testament to their R&D. You sir, give an informative and lucid review of this speaker. Easy to understand and entertaining. Makes me almost wanna buy the freakin' things.
Hwan Jung nice I auditioned that but was more than I needed I went with the R100 SW and it works great am considering getting a second but only for when I move to a bigger place.
@@darrens7040 lol its probably too much for my condo. The entire living room rumbles during explosion scenes in movies and low bass notes in music, just like yourself I am ecstatic over my klipsch purchases
Had the RP 150M which led to some vintage Forte I with a Godzilla integrated, I could hear the groans of audiophiles everywhere. Then Steve started his horn phase. Don't know about the RP 600Ms with a SET, but the Fortes love it, they aren't loud using 3 watts, but man do they sound right. Anything acoustic is just phenomenal.
I really love my RP-260Fs too. I think they are the exact same drivers as the 600Ms. After bi-amping them the bass became clear and distinct down to 35Hz. So good I got rid of my sub. They are really cheap since the new models came out. I think they look better too.
What interests me the most about this review is your very well-stated assessment of the polarizing nature of the Klipsch sound and the fact that this speaker eliminates this issue by solving the problems that led to the polarization. Short of just guessing, do you have reason to believe that the Klipsch line in general, especially the larger floor standing models, such as the La Scala and Cornwalls, have similarly resolved this problem? As an aside, based at least partly on your review I became extremely interested in Tekton Design speakers and ended up purchasing the Ulfberht's, which I absolutely love. Thanks for the heads up!
Hi Sean, Do not usually do RUclips comments ... after watching this video I had to do one. I really enjoyed the format and delivery of the review, the breakdown, concise on all the points, the characteristics covered, and the scope of the pros/cons. What I appreciated the most is the focus on the listener user preferences/experience and how these speakers may or may not appeal to certain audience. It is obvious that you have deep expertise in this field. I spent last night jumping from one ZF video to the next. May I make a suggestion? Not sure if you have done this already. Would you consider a review comparing a new speaker and an old vintage one in the same “class”? For example, I would be interested in how my 15+ year old B&W DM303 stand up today and how R&D have pushed audio quality forward. Thank you. H.
This price point for bookshelf speakers is really heating up, so this is a great time to get into bookshelf speakers! Andrew Jones got things started a few years ago, first with his Pioneer speakers and then with his ELAC offerings. But Klipsch has answered the challenge. In my opinion, these RPs topple ELAC from its price point dominance, and are now the new kings. BTW, if anyone is interested in these speakers but doesn't want to pay $550, consider buying a pair of the prior generation RP-160s, which are marked down now. For some reason the 160s flew under the audiophile radar, but they sound just as good as the 600s, with only minor cosmetic differences. As an owner of a pair, I can attest that everything Zero Fidelity says here about the 600s is also true of the 160s. I matched mine with a slightly warmish vintage amp, and the combination is exceedingly magical. I got mine refurbished for around $300/pair, and I consider them an even better deal than my now unused ELAC Debut B6s, which as another commenter notes, can be a little too rolled off on the top end.
Thanks for your fine review Sean. I own both Klipshorns and a pair of RP-280F as mains for the theater material. However, I decided to lower the level of the horn tweeter a bit. NOT with the EQ in my Marantz AVR, (I leave that FLAT), but with taking the input links OUT on the rear of the speakers. I put high quality L-Pads in and BI-Amp them. Running the L-PAD at 12 O'Clock for the horn on it's own amp makes for a much smoother sound to my ears and not so forward and in your face for ORCHESTRAL recordings.... There are many high end speakers that have adjustments on them for this reason, so your speakers can be better tailored to your room, and your tastes... Just a thought....
Sean, you are one of the best reviewers out there, plain and simple, hands down, votes are in! This was a great review. Your real world perspective is what really does it I think. You nailed it with your description of how they are "engaging" and get you really involved with the music. This IS the ULTIMATE goal! That is the way it should be, audiophile or not. Sometimes I feel like audiophiles willfully give up that goal or give up enjoying music in favor of just measurements and analysis. Measurements don't tell you how something sounds. Anyway, as you may know, I'm one of those guys that goes running from the room when I see horned speakers for the very reasons you state. That said, if I ever get a chance I would be curious to hear these. Again, I would not be one who would actually be interested in purchasing these (even though the price is fantastic), because I'm a 3-way tower guy. Even if I had a very small room, I would find some way to squeeze towers into it.
Audiophiles are the last people you can accuse of being into measurements only. In fact the opposite is usually the accusation thrown at them. If you're an audiophile today, you just can't win.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt Well, I don't know about that. It has been the case in the 1000 or so I have run into. I'm sure there are more than a thousand though that I have not run into. They try to base how something sounds on measurements. I think most just don't get or refuse to understand that audio is all subjective aside from knowing how to build circuits. I don't have to worry since I am not anywhere near audiophile by modern definition.
Good to see you back. Another great and useful video! I used to have the RP150M and the RP160M’s. I think the old models lined up with what you experienced with these - with the 150M’s sounding less bright. Not sure if that is because the horn on the 150M’s was smaller. I also noticed the tweeters in the 150M’s were stamped with a different part # than the 160M’s. And just for reference my amp at the time was the excellent Marantz PM6005 integrated.
Tell ya something else for free too 😉 ... I did a test one day with the Marantz 5005, Klipsch RP150Ms and CD sources. Even against the higher model Marantz CD 6006 and other brands at a similar price point ... I preferred the Marantz CD 5005. Obviously good synergies between CD and Amp. Edit: ... And you might be surprised how noticeable the CD player differences presented! Edit: corrected 6005 to 5005.
I went with the RP-500m because they were for a tiny room, but this review could apply just as well to mine. Having said that, I shopped and listened to a LOT of different options... some went way above this price point. LS50. Elac Debut and Ubi. LS305’s. To me, none of them produced the same clarity. I found myself REALLY looking for a reason to NOT get them because (1) I’m not crazy about the copper drivers and (2) klipsch has that sort of mass produced perception. Everyone has klipsch. Zero regrets on my purchase. I did hook them up to an old 8” KLH sub, but the experience is unreal. Movies. Games. Music. Klipsch hit a home run with their reference premier line.
vwr32jeep Klipsch speakers(their quality ones, and Klipsch is not deceptive about their many levels of quality, reflected in advertising AND cost) are really quite interesting. They are, seemingly, designed to be “unlocked”, and once they are, wow. For the cost, they are rock solid, bordering and occasionally crossing over into amazing and nuanced. They are speakers designed, engineered, constructed by folks that get what speakers genuinely are, and extension of the purchasers character and passion. Just my opinion lol!
vwr32jeep Klipsch speakers(their quality ones, and Klipsch is not deceptive about their many levels of quality, reflected in advertising AND cost) are really quite interesting. They are, seemingly, designed to be “unlocked”, and once they are, wow. For the cost, they are rock solid, bordering and occasionally crossing over into amazing and nuanced. They are speakers designed, engineered, constructed by folks that get what speakers genuinely are, and extension of the purchasers character and passion. Just my opinion lol!
whatfreedom7 It’s at 10:45 or so. He said “I wouldn’t call it sibilant”. He says the treble is “forward but not harsh”. In all fairness, I’m using the RP-500m, but it’s the same horn horn tweeter. To be honest, when I’m listening to music I really do forget about the speaker. I have yet to wish the highs were different at all. They just sound good and I turn it up. I do leave the grills on because I don’t care for the copper color, but these are pointed directly at me. I even have the treble set above neutral on the receiver. I’m using a Yamaha RX-A870, so it’s kinda low end.
been loving mine that i got for $450. using them at my desk and work just fine as i have a large desk and sit 3-4ft away from them. really want some of the floor standing versions rp8000m.
@@ShortHandedNow i got lucky and got the order out when "Z Reviews" still had the video on patreon only. got the video a week early and soon as it came out price went back up to $550. maybe if you are close enough to the border you could pick a set up at a bestbuy and smuggle them back?
@@aflea8272 the company I ordered off Amazon offered me the piano black for the same price 449, but all my klipsch gear is in walnut so I told him it's either walnut or I'm going to cancel the order. Yea it's still 549, just checked Amazon now
Thanks for your review. These are going to be my next speaker based on your review. They check most of the boxes I am looking for in a bookshelf speaker.
@@bobestelle8930 if you have the room, def the 8000fs. For a small to medium room the 600m will be enough, but you'll need a subwoofer, especially for home theater.
just picked up a pair. I had an old pair of pioneer CS-R380-Q speakers from the 1990's that were almost dead and had no sound quality left. They were powered by an old $60 AVR fed by a computer audio out using a headphone jack. one of the speakers would intermittently die. I liked the way klipsch speakers looked and heard good things so i got a set of R-41m's to replace them and fed them through a Schiit modi 3.... i suddenly realized what i was missing sonically and could actually listen to music again. with all the reviews i knew i'd love these so i pulled the trigger finally. holy crap they're even better than i imagined.
Guttenberg just gave a thumbs up for those Jamo 803's too. Mainly cuz they're such a good deal for the price (and no, no one is saying they're in the same league as these RP600's you're reviewing cuz they're clearly not)
Have the RP 150's. Amazing little speakers. Mine sit atop a pair of upgraded Quartets and not only do they keep pace with the quartets, but they sound more "true" at volume. Did I mention that they are amazing little speakers?
Informative review .... going to have to give these a listen.... the set up you describe can be met in my room and I was hoping for a less rolled off treble from my entry Elacs
I tried them and I have bought the Elac Debut 6.2s instead. Where I live the Elacs are half the cost of the Klipsch and I thought they sounded better. The only problem with the Elacs is they are not very pretty.
Also keep an eye open for mid-summer sales. It's a slow time of the year, and often times manufacturers will run promotions that are as good, if not even better than holiday sales.
With making speakers and I found that image happens with 3 things. Time alignment. Medrange tone. Treble level. About #3...You said there is a close image you can "touch", and the treble is forward (tipped up a bit). With my speakers, when I adjusted my crossover to vary the treble level (I noticed that) with it a bit bright it would make the image, but then the image would drop off again with further treble level. And it's a narrow margin when the image comes in, when the treble level is just a little bit bright but not too much, just pleasantly bright.
They "toned down" the horn(s) years ago. And if you think they are too "bright", just turn the treble down to -2 or -3. Also, it depends on the amp that you are using. I have an original pair of Klipsch Heresys and I'm using a Marantz 1060b Integrated Amp to power them. They sound a LOT better on the Marantz than they do on a Yamaha (can't think of the model number right now) receiver.
I agree that a more detailed comparison between these and the 160m's (and 150m's). When I wrote in about this suggestion in the past on another review, someone may have mentioned that there is a difference in the horn. What I believe is true of the 160m's and the 600M's is that sound is more rounded and not as harshly bright than the usual reference line. Everyone seems to say so, that is. For those of us who own the 160's m , is it worth it or a great upgrade (it seems not) to replace the 160m's with the newer 600m's. Thanks for this review.
1- it was a SUGGESTION as I think such would be helpful. His opening comments suggest or pose the question of whether or not this is really the hot thing it is promoted to be. It seemed to me to pose the question of - compared to what(?) as a consideration. 2- I dont know if the dude has ever done a review of the 160's in the past or if he has had any experience with them. I did not bother to go through his whole history to check that out as I can do other things with my time. The fact that I am even taking the time to respond to your comment already makes me wonder why I am spending my time doing to. 3- he is not the only one reading my comments ( you are a case in point ) so - maybe others can offer feedback. I am aware that he does not have the 160's or 150's in this demonstration. I am proposing what I think would be helpful. If you don't think so - that is cool- then just say so instead of being more invested in being a smarta__.
I'd need to have both speakers on hand to provide you with a qualified verdict. Hopefully somebody here, who HAS conducted an A/B comparison, will see your question and provide their take on how the two compare. Cheers!
I listened to these speakers, thought they were very good, then listened to Q Acoustics Concept 20 and loved them and ended up buying them. I honestly believe both of these speakers are the best quality bookshelfs at that price point!!
@Sly foxxx Yes the store I got my Concept 20's from had 4 of the best bookshelfs side by side. The Concept 20's, Elac Debut 5's, B&W 600's and these Klipsch's. All sounded excellent, but the Concept 20's sounded the most natural and real. Brilliant speakers, very happy with my choice!!
@@corkydukeII5898 Yes I look forward to a review of those, I heard good things. There are some amazing bookshelfs available under $500, and such a massive range of brands, it can be difficult to choose. In the end it comes down to personal listening preferences!!
@@simonworthington-eyre3525 Yes agreed...ALOT to choose from! That's for sure. (That Asian guy on YT 'Tharbamar' reviewed them about 2 months ago, and was super super impressed with them! Amazon reviews on 'em have been extremely stellar too!)
How can something esthetically so "unappealing" create this engaging sound??? Far from perfect but F. H. what a delight to turn them on! Low volume or medium...or higher. Highs are just right, medium range ok but not exceptional, bass sweet and fairly precise. Paired to Pro Ject S2 Stream Box, Pro Ject Pre Box S2 Digital Dac (Austria), Creek Destiny 2 Amp (UK) and a touch of Rel T1 sub to bring this cosy warmth at low volumes. Quite unique. Just got them to give them a try but... Might smile like Steve... They look cheap and ugly "piece of furniture"... Compare to Sonus Faber o even Quads... But damn, they are addictive. Sean thanks for your always entertaining and personal reviews. Kind Regards from Madrid, Spain.
I know this video is a lil but old but since I just purchased these a few days ago.... About a year ago I had the choice between these and the RP8000Fs and I went with the RP8000F since my living room in my new house was going to be pretty large. Since purchasing the 8000s I have never liked their sound on certain types of music. For instance, Steely Dan and Floyd sounds fantastic but Judas Priest kills me, well basically any hard rock or metal. I listen to a wide range of music but mostly hard rock and metal. I purchased the RP600Ms for my office since the price dropped and some of the reviews I had seen said they were still dynamic but not as harsh as the 8000s. I put them in my office and immediately noticed the people were dead on. They are not nearly as harsh on the highs and way more balanced over all. So I decided to put them in the living room to see how they would sound in a larger room. They are paired with a Pioneer LX504 and a RP120 sub and they sound fantastic. They fill the room perfectly. I tried them on every type of music I listen to and they sound great on everything. I tried them streaming Tidal, my CD player and my record player (all on direct) and everything I threw at them they sounded great. I was skeptical about all the hype since the RP8000s had tons of positive videos but these are basically what I wish I would have gotten with the 8000s. If I could get my money back on the 8000s I would buy another pair of these. Since my office is way too small for the 8000s I have put them in the garage and put my Polk T50s back in my office.
I picked these up last week on Amazon for $330 (piano black version)...and I'm STUNNED by their performance. I would go to say that they are damn near toe to toe with SVS Ultra Bookshelves (over $1000 a pair). I should know... i have them both.
I am pretty sure I got the same deal on the RP-600M first gen. I am curious how different / similar they will be to my RP-160m. The main difference should be the change to the ported tweeter.
I had my RF-7 IIs paired with my Onkyo 805. I recently upgraded to a NAD 777 and wow it made a difference. The Onkyo just had too aggressive highs with Klipsch and the NAD really balanced them out. I really agree with your comment that what you drive them with can influence how they sound. Liked your video and really like your previous RF-7 II review.
@ mark evans - Klipsch is definitely sensitive to what you feed them. I run a Sony STR-DA5800ES. Out of curiosity I added a Emotiva amp and hated the sibilance it added. I got rid of the Emotiva and now just run the 5800 receiver. Bottom line why mess with a good thing? Glad you found your right combination with the NAD!
I have a pair of KSB 3.1 Bookshelf speakers on steel stands filled with aquarium gravel. They're 20 years old and still sound great to me. When I replace them eventually it will only be with another pair from Klipsch or if I'm rich enough ESS.
I just ordered a pair. I heard a sound demo and loved them. I'm looking for speakers that sound as good as my Sennheiser headphones and these might be them.🙂
I have the Klipsch R15-PM speakers hooked up to a sub and feeding music to it out of my PC with a Sound Blaster ZxR. I find jazz music to sound great on Klipsch speakers. Classical sounds great too.
Thank you for sharing. The only thing I would like to add is that much of what enthusiasts say about horns in general has to do with what amplifier or preamplifier they are driving them with. Since conventional horns are efficient, they will shine a spotlight on any misrepresentation of the source of the music. The old saying, garbage in, garbage out.
@Carlos Bauzá Consider the Crossover and Cabinet Resonance Upgrades by Danny Richie at www.gr-research.com if you want to take these speakers to the next level. ;) Danny takes you step-by-step through the reasons for the upgrades on these speakers (including measurements) in the following video... ruclips.net/video/arYwrAtcJZY/видео.html I know from personal experience with many of my own DIY speaker projects that what he goes over here makes a significant impact on the quality of sound. Good luck.
They are bad ass!! 3 weeks in and they are sounding amazing for my music..Mostly live stuff..jam bands grateful dead ect..I have the 600m's paired with 2 BIC PL-200 ii subs..Holy FUCK...I spent $2000 just to piss off my neighbors hahaha fucking barking dogs!!
these speakers are a little to big for my present needs. I've had the earlier models of the 4 inch version and I always liked them. At this point, the RP 500M would be better for me. Do you think all the sizes share the characteristics of this model. I know that's a tough call to make...what do you think? Thanks for a very good review and great points made.
thanks for the review ! I came very very close to buying but then heard the difintive technology demand series ehaa so confussed now sold my hpm 100s so have extra money but I will say I been a audiophile since 89 and blown away buy the fs52s still!! Even bought another set I put up lol I d like to find some elac f6 to get over the F52s lol I know You never reviewed f52s but must be a reason idk thanks again I've watched a lot of reviews on the RP600 but take your reviews with more weight thanks again sean !!
Tested the RP8000's and 6000 with a "warmer" NAD c368, Yamaha as801 and cambridge audio cxa60. The latter was actually a nice fit to my ears. Nice crispy details and a lot of headroom. Was quite surprised because i was planning on ending my journey and buying the b&w 603s
I feel Klipsch has really stepped up their game! I used to think their speakers sounded harsh and not very musical. Used to own RF62, RF83, RF7ii and was not happy with music. When I purchased the rp160m I was shocked how musical they were. I excited to give these new R600m a try. Since then I have owned many nice speakers and the newer Klipsch gears really give other nice speakers a run for their money!
They didn't do it for me. And in part it may be because I didn't get them broken in properly. Some reviewers are suggesting they need quite a bit to get them loose. No idea. I was disappointed immediately. You say clarity. I heard muddy, with sub par definition. I do realize it probably has a lot to do with my small room: 7ft ceiling, about 170 sq.ft. Walls are plaster over concrete. There is a thick room size rug and a very big stuffed sofa, with a couple of quilts on the wall. Because the space is shared I can't do much more in terms of treatment. So, I parked the 600s and built myself a pair of Fountek ribbon MTMs based on the design from Stones Sound Studio in Australia. Somehow, they get past the room, and sound sweet and balanced. I'm driving the Founteks with the same 60W/ch Neurochrome Parallel-86 Power amp I used on the Klipsch.
Klipsch speakers... hate'em...love'em. I own a pair of "RB-81 -mk 2 ", i love'em, specially after i upgrade the x-over with Mundorf MCap EVO Oil caps, and resistors, silver plated Jantzen internal cables, silver plated AMC binding posts. My thoughts...objectively...the treble is quite amazing, the mids became crisp and tone accurate, the hights are smooth but crisp, the bass...oh...the bass !...lovely, you know how a good bass must be, that's it. Some say that Klipsch is harsh on the hights, i never experienced that, even before the upgrade. Thanks for the review, once again you nailed it.
I actually find Klipsch high frequencies to be dull. Brightness is in the 8000Hz range not higher up in frequency like most people think. I prefer speakers that are extended and sound like the high frequencies go on forever. This the Klipsch speakers are not. I also find they are not great in reproduction of depth.
quite interesting speaker, not for me in my current nearfield listening room, i also like sealed cabinet for more clarity and better sound quality. if i just want to throw something together without a subwoofer in my living room these can be a interesting choice. if they just made a woofer the works in sealed box that would benefit sound quality, as woofer are specialized for either ported or sealed, you could make one that works in both but then they are not perfect for either.
In the late 80’s and early 90’s when I was a college student and was first turned on to “high end” audio (although I dwelt in the entry level strata) the older audiophiles lumped Klipsch in with JBL for being a “has been.” You know, a company that once made great stuff but had inevitably ended making cheaper speakers that dwelled in that purgatory somewhere between mass market mid-fi and true high end. I’d have never even bothered to listen to Klipsch or any gear found at the now defunct Circuit City or Best Buy. Today though, Klipsch is getting the same fanfare as KEF and B&W got 20 to 30 years ago. I guess I should give them a listen.
I picked up a pair of Klipsch rp250f speakers on trade, and wow! The only other speakers I have that can dance with them are my little Quad S1's The RP Klipsch are just musical and give great dynamics, they give great harmonics too. Im NOT a Klipsch guy.
I finally got my RP600M Klipsch's into place in the living room. They are as good or better than you described. I'm an electrical engineer and a musician. I am also unlikely to spend the cost of a Mercedes on a music system. Said plainly, I am hearing good things on good recordings that have never before been experienced on a long line of Advents, Polks, A.Jones Pioneers, and KLH's. Classical, piano, and organ recordings are, let's say, "clear." With just about 50 watts (for real, not PR), they are starting to fill an open floor of my house that approximates 24' x 32' x 16'. Initially, I have them on the hypotenuse of a corner, spaced about 10' apart, 3' from the walls, and about 10' from my ears. Yes, there's a sub with 300 watts to do the heavy lifting on the bottom two octaves (60 to about 22 Hz). I can achieve a relatively clear 75dBA as is. My goal is about 15dB more, eventually, but only on occasion. I can wait for that. I'll gladly start with clear and dynamic. You were spot on. I am pleased. Thanks so much. Thanks to Klipsch. Maybe I should have started with them about 30 years ago.
I picked up the little bothers to these, the R 51M. I really like them, that Klipsch sound is gone, actually pretty impressive for such a tiny speaker. I'll use them in the garage.
@@alexanderscott3790 Definitely agree on a small tube amp. I was really impressed with these little Klipsch speakers. I ran them on my SVS SoundBase which is 300 watts of clean power, 150 Watts per channel. These little Klipsch speakers sounded incredibly clean, the horn or tweeter was finally toned down, much nicer sounding then the Klipsch sound I grew up with. And their bass, for their size, was not that bad. Best part, I caught them on sale at BB, $139.00 for the pair + a few dollars in tax delivered.
You and Steve have persuaded me. Now, I need to find an integrated amp replacement for my beleaguered Yamaha receiver. Big room to drive (20 x 32 x 17), listening point ~10 feet in front, so I'm looking for ~100 watts or better, honest RMS continuous power. Needs an MM input and s/w out. Hoping for 100 dB peak at 10'. For others, I wish you'd treat sensitivity a bit more since it means so much to amp power. That data seems under-reported. Soon. Stand back, Saint-Seans.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt I think you have a point. In defense of the choice, I will be using two existing 12" powered subs to take the strain off the Klipsches at
@@ZeroFidelity Thanks for the clue. Your review of these speakers has motivated me to place an order. Now, what to do with the existing Pioneer - A. Jones power-sumps? :)
Wait...I’m confused. You called them horn speakers. But I read that they’re not horn tweeters, Klipsch calls it a wave guide with a regular tweeter. What are they? Who’s right?
Owned a pair of old school KG 5.2 (big speakers with 10” woofer, 10” passive radiator, and very recessed horn). They were beautiful looking speakers. Very clear and clean sound BUT as you said, shouty and bass was lean.
How are these speakers compare to the previous speakers RP160m ? I am asking because I own RP160m, and want to know should I upgrade to these ? Thank you for your response.
Great review, what are the chances of you getting your hands on the klipsch RP 4000 I really can’t find any reviews about that speaker! And if you have any opinions, I’d love to hear them
another great review! I like the bonus section, absolutely the further away say 5-6 ft would be great. And spot on for the bass, it depends on the stands, invest on a good one! Thank YOU. For the rest, I think your money would be better spent on the RP160M ($350).
Actually, I think the bass response is about the same, it's the treble that I think is quite different. I prefer the 160m. Both I think are equally open and dynamic sounding. My comments are skewed because I equipped all my systems with iFitube2, so I have better control on openness, treble and bass.
I'd need to hear both speakers, side by side, to say how they stack up. My guess is that the RP160 will be less resolute, dynamic, and less tilted up along the treble. Can't say for sure.
Sean, the most important comparison I'd love to need your view is how does this pair compare to JBL Studio 530. That is in the same price range and is highly rated. Would you recommend this pair over the JBLs?
I ahe the klipsch promedia 2.1 computr speakers with the horn tweeters..and i love them. I gree these reviewed speakers would be waaaaay overkill for a compute setup though..but as rear surrounds..or mains in a small room..yeah they are great..:)
Hi. I am considering Martin Logan 35XT bookshelf speakers or maybe the smaller Motion 15s. I would like to see you and others review them and compare them.
Hi Sean..good explanation bro.. how about rp 600m vs b&w 606.. which one is better sound quality in term of sound stage, image , balance , dynamic, punchy and naturally? I came in mindset before, these klipsch is more to HT.. for stereophile look like there is manipulation in sound for klipsch.. not sure why😔..
I have some for my HT . Klipsch has a ringer- That "it" speaker that's going to be a big cash cow. As I've said before: $3000 bookshelves that sound great. zzzz. ok fine, for that price they BETTER be. For under $600 a pair? Rock on! There are VERY FEW speakers at that price that I dare call giant killers. STILL not my bag for nearfield, they need space. Older klipsch do shout.
My experience with these speakers did not mirror your own except for the bottom end. The top end was very disappointing. The tweeters sounding like they were playing through a wad of cotton. My room sucks up the high frequencies so I was hoping for a much brighter sound. Plus, that's my own personal preference. When I discussed my issue with a high end audio retailer who carries all of the Klipsch product line, he stated very mater of factly that the RP 600M rolled off the top end pretty good and was not surprised I was not happy with their performance in that area. I think you hit on something in your review when you indicated that they did not sound like a typical Klipsch product in that they were closer to neutral on the treble side. That's not something Klipsch has been noted for in the past. I see from many of the comments that lots of folks love them and I wish I could count myself in that number. Whatever those boys down in Arkansas did to those horns (they did SOMETHING), I think they went a bit too far.
Well, I don't have those magic speaker cables with the Area 51 black boxes on them. (I'm just messing with you) So they are that sensitive to gear, huh? I don't think I like that in a speaker. Still, I was expecting performance on par with your review. Hard to believe my components would make that much difference but they are the only variable (besides the aforementioned secret government technology) so I suspect you're right about that. I spent a little more money and got the SVS Ultra's and you know how that went. They're phenomenal.
@@mikehanks1399 What goes on inside the box, stays in the box. Yeah - these speakers are pretty sensitive to what you pair them up to. As for the Ultras.. I have a set that are still sitting in a box. :) They're on of over a dozen products that are currently awaiting evaluation. Looking forward to finally reviewing em'. :)
I agree but i've always found their horns rolled off. Most people don't realize the brightness range is around 8,000hz -10,000hz and not 15,000hz - 20,000hz.
I personally need someone to do a comparison video of rp150 and these. Unless klipsch has completely redesigned the horn, I just don’t think the treble in terms of smoothness and refinement can compete with other speakers at the price. Granted, the positives remain true, I thought the rp150 were very dynamic, it was exciting even. The horn does give you that floaty treble and soundstage. One thing I don’t think he mentioned is power handling, if you need a party speaker, the rp150 can reach unlimited spl (it’s commendable). The bad points also persist, poor horn and driver integration (this is a big one for me) makes the sound seems disconnected and flushed out the u shaped profile a bit. Bass is a bit light and the biggest for me was that while there is a good deal of soundstage and imaging, the treble doesn’t sound that refined. I hate to use the word grainy. The treble is elevated and rarely silbant but the detail sounds choppy to me. Additionally the 150 usd price hike is interesting as well. All in all if someone likes the sound of the rp150 they will love them. However at about 400-500 I think elac unifi and especially q acoustics concept 20 must be considered as serious rivals. Both are in my opinion better balanced although the klipsch do different things for sure. So please, comparison and collabo video with Steve jajja. Thanks Sean, nice video
Elac Unifi will require a more powerful amp (>80W(?)). More bass from the RP-160Ms than the 150Ms ...(and so the 600Ms v the 500Ms(?)) - bigger cabinets. I haven't heard the 500/600s ... But would have thought you'd want a buyer lined for your 150s - esp if your not gonna get a chance to hear the latest models.
@@ShellstaTubeYou're right the the 600 should have more bass. I looked up thespecs: rp150/500 is 48hz +/-3 and rp160/600 is 45. The elac Ub5 is 46 (i assume +/-3db, it doesnt specify) The elac will require a bit more power as I think they are 85 db sensitivity but a Nad 316BEE 40 wpc A/B can bring them to their limit before running out of gas. With my UF5 (the towers), the nad struggles a bit more . Thats the thing also with the Elac UB5 and the Ls50, the concentric driver has its limits, which are lower in the elac's case before they get really unruly and shouty. The more power you have, the better controlled the bass will be, not the louder they will get. The Ub5/UF5's "taut and controlled bass" is unheard of imo at this price.
I wonder how it compares to 160M Your description tells the story of civilized, tamed Klipsch Can you part with it and have fun with them? As 160m were my choice among other speaker producers
I love them! I just got a pair and they are the best sounding speakers I’ve ever owned.
Niiice I am about ti buy them, can't wait anymore
Sean nailed it!
Steve please do a collabo with Sean for Rp150 vs 500. How does the 500/600 compare in treble to the rp150??? Everyone seems to say that its quite a bit better. I thought the rp150 treble was not as refined compared to otehr speakers in the sub 1000 category.
Thanks, Steve!
@@chrisselner5005 Appreciate the collab encouragement. Cant answer those questions though as I'm not familiar with the speakers that you're referencing.
I completely agree with the collaboration idea. Get 3 or 4 of you together with different tastes and each can share and comment on how it the product does for each of you.
Measurements please!
By far the best RP-600M review on-line. Thank you very much. I almost exclusivity only watch you and Steve at this point . Thank you and keep up the hard work.
I purchased one pair. Your review is spot-on! The principal character is balanced, balanced, balanced. Bass is good, but a Subwoofer helps below 50 Hz. Really, truly satisfying. A raving good bookshelf design. There a-re better ones For Triple the Price (like my LS50), but noticed only in A/B comparison.
I bought these back in October and they are fabulous. Highly recommended!
Great looking speakers, great specs, great price tag! Great work on the review as usual man!
Having listened to Klipsch (La Scala) speakers years ago at a friends I can say that I liked them. Trouble is, as you surmise, most folks either like or hate the horn sound.To me it is kinda forward and P. A. associated. Klipsch, Electro-Voice and Altec are some brands noted for their "west coast " sound. That Klipsch is still building a quality product after all these years is a testament to their R&D. You sir, give an informative and lucid review of this speaker. Easy to understand and entertaining. Makes me almost wanna buy the freakin' things.
I bought mine after watching Steves review and I love em paired up with a klipsch sub they have exceeded my expectations and then some.
Which sub? I got the r-120sw
Hwan Jung nice I auditioned that but was more than I needed I went with the R100 SW and it works great am considering getting a second but only for when I move to a bigger place.
@@darrens7040 lol its probably too much for my condo. The entire living room rumbles during explosion scenes in movies and low bass notes in music, just like yourself I am ecstatic over my klipsch purchases
Had the RP 150M which led to some vintage Forte I with a Godzilla integrated, I could hear the groans of audiophiles everywhere. Then Steve started his horn phase. Don't know about the RP 600Ms with a SET, but the Fortes love it, they aren't loud using 3 watts, but man do they sound right. Anything acoustic is just phenomenal.
Great review, I have the previous floor standing version RP260F and absolutely love them.
I really love my RP-260Fs too. I think they are the exact same drivers as the 600Ms. After bi-amping them the bass became clear and distinct down to 35Hz. So good I got rid of my sub. They are really cheap since the new models came out. I think they look better too.
What interests me the most about this review is your very well-stated assessment of the polarizing nature of the Klipsch sound and the fact that this speaker eliminates this issue by solving the problems that led to the polarization. Short of just guessing, do you have reason to believe that the Klipsch line in general, especially the larger floor standing models, such as the La Scala and Cornwalls, have similarly resolved this problem?
As an aside, based at least partly on your review I became extremely interested in Tekton Design speakers and ended up purchasing the Ulfberht's, which I absolutely love. Thanks for the heads up!
Fantastic speakers! I love em!
Hi Sean,
Do not usually do RUclips comments ... after watching this video I had to do one.
I really enjoyed the format and delivery of the review, the breakdown, concise on all the points, the characteristics covered, and the scope of the pros/cons.
What I appreciated the most is the focus on the listener user preferences/experience and how these speakers may or may not appeal to certain audience.
It is obvious that you have deep expertise in this field. I spent last night jumping from one ZF video to the next.
May I make a suggestion? Not sure if you have done this already. Would you consider a review comparing a new speaker and an old vintage one in the same “class”? For example, I would be interested in how my 15+ year old B&W DM303 stand up today and how R&D have pushed audio quality forward.
Thank you.
H.
Have them for three months now, love them
This price point for bookshelf speakers is really heating up, so this is a great time to get into bookshelf speakers! Andrew Jones got things started a few years ago, first with his Pioneer speakers and then with his ELAC offerings. But Klipsch has answered the challenge. In my opinion, these RPs topple ELAC from its price point dominance, and are now the new kings.
BTW, if anyone is interested in these speakers but doesn't want to pay $550, consider buying a pair of the prior generation RP-160s, which are marked down now. For some reason the 160s flew under the audiophile radar, but they sound just as good as the 600s, with only minor cosmetic differences. As an owner of a pair, I can attest that everything Zero Fidelity says here about the 600s is also true of the 160s. I matched mine with a slightly warmish vintage amp, and the combination is exceedingly magical. I got mine refurbished for around $300/pair, and I consider them an even better deal than my now unused ELAC Debut B6s, which as another commenter notes, can be a little too rolled off on the top end.
Thanks for your fine review Sean. I own both Klipshorns and a pair of RP-280F as mains for the theater material. However, I decided to lower the level of the horn tweeter a bit. NOT with the EQ in my Marantz AVR, (I leave that FLAT), but with taking the input links OUT on the rear of the speakers.
I put high quality L-Pads in and BI-Amp them. Running the L-PAD at 12 O'Clock for the horn on it's own amp makes for a much smoother sound to my ears and not so forward and in your face for ORCHESTRAL recordings.... There are many high end speakers that have adjustments on them for this reason, so your speakers can be better tailored to your room, and your tastes... Just a thought....
Sean, you are one of the best reviewers out there, plain and simple, hands down, votes are in! This was a great review. Your real world perspective is what really does it I think.
You nailed it with your description of how they are "engaging" and get you really involved with the music. This IS the ULTIMATE goal! That is the way it should be, audiophile or not. Sometimes I feel like audiophiles willfully give up that goal or give up enjoying music in favor of just measurements and analysis. Measurements don't tell you how something sounds.
Anyway, as you may know, I'm one of those guys that goes running from the room when I see horned speakers for the very reasons you state. That said, if I ever get a chance I would be curious to hear these.
Again, I would not be one who would actually be interested in purchasing these (even though the price is fantastic), because I'm a 3-way tower guy. Even if I had a very small room, I would find some way to squeeze towers into it.
Audiophiles are the last people you can accuse of being into measurements only. In fact the opposite is usually the accusation thrown at them. If you're an audiophile today, you just can't win.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt Well, I don't know about that. It has been the case in the 1000 or so I have run into. I'm sure there are more than a thousand though that I have not run into.
They try to base how something sounds on measurements. I think most just don't get or refuse to understand that audio is all subjective aside from knowing how to build circuits.
I don't have to worry since I am not anywhere near audiophile by modern definition.
Good to see you back. Another great and useful video! I used to have the RP150M and the RP160M’s. I think the old models lined up with what you experienced with these - with the 150M’s sounding less bright. Not sure if that is because the horn on the 150M’s was smaller. I also noticed the tweeters in the 150M’s were stamped with a different part # than the 160M’s. And just for reference my amp at the time was the excellent Marantz PM6005 integrated.
Yup - Marantz tends warm - Klipsch tends bright - great match 😎.
Tell ya something else for free too 😉 ... I did a test one day with the Marantz 5005, Klipsch RP150Ms and CD sources. Even against the higher model Marantz CD 6006 and other brands at a similar price point ... I preferred the Marantz CD 5005. Obviously good synergies between CD and Amp.
Edit: ... And you might be surprised how noticeable the CD player differences presented!
Edit: corrected 6005 to 5005.
Thanks. Yeah, the smaller the horn, the easier it is for it to sound well integrated in a real-world environment.
Correction: It was the 5005 Amp/CD vs the 6006 CD (model up). I'll correct in comment above.
Hi Sean, so happy to have you back here!
Thanks!
I went with the RP-500m because they were for a tiny room, but this review could apply just as well to mine. Having said that, I shopped and listened to a LOT of different options... some went way above this price point. LS50. Elac Debut and Ubi. LS305’s. To me, none of them produced the same clarity. I found myself REALLY looking for a reason to NOT get them because (1) I’m not crazy about the copper drivers and (2) klipsch has that sort of mass produced perception. Everyone has klipsch.
Zero regrets on my purchase. I did hook them up to an old 8” KLH sub, but the experience is unreal. Movies. Games. Music. Klipsch hit a home run with their reference premier line.
vwr32jeep Klipsch speakers(their quality ones, and Klipsch is not deceptive about their many levels of quality, reflected in advertising AND cost) are really quite interesting. They are, seemingly, designed to be “unlocked”, and once they are, wow. For the cost, they are rock solid, bordering and occasionally crossing over into amazing and nuanced. They are speakers designed, engineered, constructed by folks that get what speakers genuinely are, and extension of the purchasers character and passion. Just my opinion lol!
vwr32jeep Klipsch speakers(their quality ones, and Klipsch is not deceptive about their many levels of quality, reflected in advertising AND cost) are really quite interesting. They are, seemingly, designed to be “unlocked”, and once they are, wow. For the cost, they are rock solid, bordering and occasionally crossing over into amazing and nuanced. They are speakers designed, engineered, constructed by folks that get what speakers genuinely are, and extension of the purchasers character and passion. Just my opinion lol!
In your experience are the vocals harsh S going on. I guess that’s he means by sibilant. Are the vocals strong or recessed?
whatfreedom7
It’s at 10:45 or so. He said “I wouldn’t call it sibilant”. He says the treble is “forward but not harsh”. In all fairness, I’m using the RP-500m, but it’s the same horn horn tweeter. To be honest, when I’m listening to music I really do forget about the speaker. I have yet to wish the highs were different at all. They just sound good and I turn it up. I do leave the grills on because I don’t care for the copper color, but these are pointed directly at me. I even have the treble set above neutral on the receiver. I’m using a Yamaha RX-A870, so it’s kinda low end.
been loving mine that i got for $450. using them at my desk and work just fine as i have a large desk and sit 3-4ft away from them. really want some of the floor standing versions rp8000m.
Got mine for 449 too! And def get the 8000f, I got them both and my neighbors hate me!!
Bah. They retail for $850 CAD up here in Canada. :(
@@ShortHandedNow i got lucky and got the order out when "Z Reviews" still had the video on patreon only. got the video a week early and soon as it came out price went back up to $550.
maybe if you are close enough to the border you could pick a set up at a bestbuy and smuggle them back?
@@aflea8272 the company I ordered off Amazon offered me the piano black for the same price 449, but all my klipsch gear is in walnut so I told him it's either walnut or I'm going to cancel the order. Yea it's still 549, just checked Amazon now
@@aflea8272Exchange is currently to far off sadly. The Canadian dollar has just slipped way to much in value :(.
You sir, are excellent in your presentation.... Can't ask for more in a review.
Peace from Holland Sean!
I currently have them, they are a blast to listen too. Bestbuy sells them, go buy them and give them a try.
my best buy does not...no klipsch
Nailed the review of these thanks from reviewing them youre a big part in what I purchase thanks again
What kind of stands are those?
Thanks for your review. These are going to be my next speaker based on your review. They check most of the boxes I am looking for in a bookshelf speaker.
Bought mine off Amazon for 449, matched them up with my 8000fs. Super happy
Hwan Jung, now that you have both.If you had to buy one or the other,which would you choose?
@@bobestelle8930 if you have the room, def the 8000fs. For a small to medium room the 600m will be enough, but you'll need a subwoofer, especially for home theater.
@@hwanjung8230 ,thank you
just picked up a pair. I had an old pair of pioneer CS-R380-Q speakers from the 1990's that were almost dead and had no sound quality left. They were powered by an old $60 AVR fed by a computer audio out using a headphone jack. one of the speakers would intermittently die. I liked the way klipsch speakers looked and heard good things so i got a set of R-41m's to replace them and fed them through a Schiit modi 3.... i suddenly realized what i was missing sonically and could actually listen to music again. with all the reviews i knew i'd love these so i pulled the trigger finally. holy crap they're even better than i imagined.
My brother bought some vintage horn speakers and I feel this review echos my feelings about them exactly. He’s using a vintage 30wpc amp ( Marantz)
A vintage Marantz with the RP 600M is really shouty and harsh to me. I paired them with a Marantz 2265B and was not pleased.
Thanks a lot for the advice ... A wonderful day!
Guttenberg just gave a thumbs up for those Jamo 803's too. Mainly cuz they're such a good deal for the price
(and no, no one is saying they're in the same league as these RP600's you're reviewing cuz they're clearly not)
Polarizing...with a Polaroid shirt 👀
What is drawing me to these speakers is that they are easy to drive and a person doesn't need to spend alot on high end amps.
Have the RP 150's. Amazing little speakers. Mine sit atop a pair of upgraded Quartets and not only do they keep pace with the quartets, but they sound more "true" at volume. Did I mention that they are amazing little speakers?
I have them too..they are great. I run them with tubes , Elekit 8200.
Thanks for adding some balance to all the raves.
Not really, not fully..
Informative review .... going to have to give these a listen.... the set up you describe can be met in my room and I was hoping for a less rolled off treble from my entry Elacs
I tried them and I have bought the Elac Debut 6.2s instead. Where I live the Elacs are half the cost of the Klipsch and I thought they sounded better. The only problem with the Elacs is they are not very pretty.
Great review man.I just placed an order of 12 pair based on your review. Used my kids lunch money that was allocated for the next year...
Thanks for providing a helpful review. I was concerned about these having a v shaped sound and you addressed my concerns.
Great review Sean. Hope you’ll review the Forte III: outstanding speakers
These things were $100 cheaper before the flood of reviews came out. If you can wait until Christmas, they'll be $300. Cheers! Great review.
Also keep an eye open for mid-summer sales. It's a slow time of the year, and often times manufacturers will run promotions that are as good, if not even better than holiday sales.
@@ZeroFidelity Excellent point. Cheers!
With making speakers and I found that image happens with 3 things.
Time alignment.
Medrange tone.
Treble level.
About #3...You said there is a close image you can "touch", and the treble is forward (tipped up a bit). With my speakers, when I adjusted my crossover to vary the treble level (I noticed that) with it a bit bright it would make the image, but then the image would drop off again with further treble level. And it's a narrow margin when the image comes in, when the treble level is just a little bit bright but not too much, just pleasantly bright.
thx for sharing! learned a lot from that
my favorite review of yours Sean.
I'm glad Klipsch has finally toned down the horn, great american speaker company.
Made in China ... its a shame!
usa is fascist stae...they have their slaves around the world
SVS is the great American speaker company and Klipsch is the shitz.
@@thegoat164 SVS doesn't make speakers, they design speakers and have them all built in china. Klipsch actually makes their high end in the usa
They "toned down" the horn(s) years ago. And if you think they are too "bright", just turn the treble down to -2 or -3. Also, it depends on the amp that you are using. I have an original pair of Klipsch Heresys and I'm using a Marantz 1060b Integrated Amp to power them. They sound a LOT better on the Marantz than they do on a Yamaha (can't think of the model number right now) receiver.
I agree that a more detailed comparison between these and the 160m's (and 150m's). When I wrote in about this suggestion in the past on another review, someone may have mentioned that there is a difference in the horn.
What I believe is true of the 160m's and the 600M's is that sound is more rounded and not as harshly bright than the usual reference line. Everyone seems to say so, that is. For those of us who own the 160's m , is it worth it or a great upgrade (it seems not) to replace the 160m's with the newer 600m's. Thanks for this review.
CM Kilcullen how is he supposed to compare them if he doesn't have both speakers?
1- it was a SUGGESTION as I think such would be helpful. His opening comments suggest or pose the question of whether or not this is really the hot thing it is promoted to be. It seemed to me to pose the question of - compared to what(?) as a consideration. 2- I dont know if the dude has ever done a review of the 160's in the past or if he has had any experience with them. I did not bother to go through his whole history to check that out as I can do other things with my time. The fact that I am even taking the time to respond to your comment already makes me wonder why I am spending my time doing to. 3- he is not the only one reading my comments ( you are a case in point ) so - maybe others can offer feedback. I am aware that he does not have the 160's or 150's in this demonstration. I am proposing what I think would be helpful. If you don't think so - that is cool- then just say so instead of being more invested in being a smarta__.
@@fourthrockonearth
Roger that...thank you!!
I'd need to have both speakers on hand to provide you with a qualified verdict. Hopefully somebody here, who HAS conducted an A/B comparison, will see your question and provide their take on how the two compare. Cheers!
@@ZeroFidelity
I thought similarly...thank you.
Great honest review. Thanks
$1600 speakers in Australia, and we live closer to the factory!
Stewart Ross ... all hifi is expensive Down Under! It’s crazy.
Damn, I'm afraid to look how much they are here in NZ then
The Truth ... you are living on the wrong end of the earth! 😂
From my neck of the woods it’s just around $750
Why is that?
I was able to get a pair for here in Australia for $950 from America. Postage is a killer, but it’s better than paying full price here!
I listened to these speakers, thought they were very good, then listened to Q Acoustics Concept 20 and loved them and ended up buying them. I honestly believe both of these speakers are the best quality bookshelfs at that price point!!
Wait til Sean reviews the new PSB P5's in the very near future....it might just change everything! (and they're only $349 a pair too...)
@Sly foxxx Yes the store I got my Concept 20's from had 4 of the best bookshelfs side by side. The Concept 20's, Elac Debut 5's, B&W 600's and these Klipsch's. All sounded excellent, but the Concept 20's sounded the most natural and real. Brilliant speakers, very happy with my choice!!
@@corkydukeII5898 Yes I look forward to a review of those, I heard good things. There are some amazing bookshelfs available under $500, and such a massive range of brands, it can be difficult to choose. In the end it comes down to personal listening preferences!!
@@simonworthington-eyre3525 Yes agreed...ALOT to choose from! That's for sure. (That Asian guy on YT 'Tharbamar' reviewed them about 2 months ago, and was super super impressed with them! Amazon reviews on 'em have been extremely stellar too!)
How can something esthetically so "unappealing" create this engaging sound???
Far from perfect but F. H. what a delight to turn them on! Low volume or medium...or higher. Highs are just right, medium range ok but not exceptional, bass sweet and fairly precise.
Paired to Pro Ject S2 Stream Box, Pro Ject Pre Box S2 Digital Dac (Austria), Creek Destiny 2 Amp (UK) and a touch of Rel T1 sub to bring this cosy warmth at low volumes.
Quite unique. Just got them to give them a try but... Might smile like Steve...
They look cheap and ugly "piece of furniture"... Compare to Sonus Faber o even Quads...
But damn, they are addictive.
Sean thanks for your always entertaining and personal reviews.
Kind Regards from Madrid, Spain.
I know this video is a lil but old but since I just purchased these a few days ago.... About a year ago I had the choice between these and the RP8000Fs and I went with the RP8000F since my living room in my new house was going to be pretty large. Since purchasing the 8000s I have never liked their sound on certain types of music. For instance, Steely Dan and Floyd sounds fantastic but Judas Priest kills me, well basically any hard rock or metal. I listen to a wide range of music but mostly hard rock and metal. I purchased the RP600Ms for my office since the price dropped and some of the reviews I had seen said they were still dynamic but not as harsh as the 8000s. I put them in my office and immediately noticed the people were dead on. They are not nearly as harsh on the highs and way more balanced over all. So I decided to put them in the living room to see how they would sound in a larger room. They are paired with a Pioneer LX504 and a RP120 sub and they sound fantastic. They fill the room perfectly. I tried them on every type of music I listen to and they sound great on everything. I tried them streaming Tidal, my CD player and my record player (all on direct) and everything I threw at them they sounded great. I was skeptical about all the hype since the RP8000s had tons of positive videos but these are basically what I wish I would have gotten with the 8000s. If I could get my money back on the 8000s I would buy another pair of these. Since my office is way too small for the 8000s I have put them in the garage and put my Polk T50s back in my office.
Thanks for posting this. I am receiving my 600m's today and I'm so excited to hear what they sound like.
Thanks for sharing men!
Keep rocking and great weekend!
I picked these up last week on Amazon for $330 (piano black version)...and I'm STUNNED by their performance. I would go to say that they are damn near toe to toe with SVS Ultra Bookshelves (over $1000 a pair). I should know... i have them both.
I am pretty sure I got the same deal on the RP-600M first gen. I am curious how different / similar they will be to my RP-160m. The main difference should be the change to the ported tweeter.
Nice job! Welcome back sir.
I had my RF-7 IIs paired with my Onkyo 805. I recently upgraded to a NAD 777 and wow it made a difference. The Onkyo just had too aggressive highs with Klipsch and the NAD really balanced them out. I really agree with your comment that what you drive them with can influence how they sound. Liked your video and really like your previous RF-7 II review.
@ mark evans - Klipsch is definitely sensitive to what you feed them. I run a Sony STR-DA5800ES. Out of curiosity I added a Emotiva amp and hated the sibilance it added. I got rid of the Emotiva and now just run the 5800 receiver. Bottom line why mess with a good thing? Glad you found your right combination with the NAD!
I have a pair of KSB 3.1 Bookshelf speakers on steel stands filled with aquarium gravel. They're 20 years old and still sound great to me. When I replace them eventually it will only be with another pair from Klipsch or if I'm rich enough ESS.
I just ordered a pair. I heard a sound demo and loved them. I'm looking for speakers that sound as good as my Sennheiser headphones and these might be them.🙂
I have the Klipsch R15-PM speakers hooked up to a sub and feeding music to it out of my PC with a Sound Blaster ZxR. I find jazz music to sound great on Klipsch speakers. Classical sounds great too.
A properly designed horn will sound amazing. Klipsch got a little closer with this product and introduced a taste of the horn sound to many consumers.
Thank you for sharing. The only thing I would like to add is that much of what enthusiasts say about horns in general has to do with what amplifier or preamplifier they are driving them with. Since conventional horns are efficient, they will shine a spotlight on any misrepresentation of the source of the music. The old saying, garbage in, garbage out.
Just received one pair of RP-600M today. Mmm tasty sound and great looks! Got to do lots more listening. Liking them so far.
@Carlos Bauzá
Consider the Crossover and Cabinet Resonance Upgrades by Danny Richie at www.gr-research.com if you want to take these speakers to the next level. ;)
Danny takes you step-by-step through the reasons for the upgrades on these speakers (including measurements) in the following video...
ruclips.net/video/arYwrAtcJZY/видео.html
I know from personal experience with many of my own DIY speaker projects that what he goes over here makes a significant impact on the quality of sound.
Good luck.
I bought these several months ago and was pleasde to see they are now $100 more than i paid!
Dude, the 600s are badass, I have about 300 hours on mine, maybe it’s just me, but I think there getting better, running biwire too. Crazy good
They are bad ass!! 3 weeks in and they are sounding amazing for my music..Mostly live stuff..jam bands grateful dead ect..I have the 600m's paired with 2 BIC PL-200 ii subs..Holy FUCK...I spent $2000 just to piss off my neighbors hahaha fucking barking dogs!!
Great Review. Really well done. Thanks.
these speakers are a little to big for my present needs. I've had the earlier models of the 4 inch version and I always liked them. At this point, the RP 500M would be better for me. Do you think all the sizes share the characteristics of this model. I know that's a tough call to make...what do you think? Thanks for a very good review and great points made.
thanks for the review ! I came very very close to buying but then heard the difintive technology demand series ehaa so confussed now sold my hpm 100s so have extra money but I will say I been a audiophile since 89 and blown away buy the fs52s still!! Even bought another set I put up lol I d like to find some elac f6 to get over the F52s lol I know You never reviewed f52s but must be a reason idk thanks again I've watched a lot of reviews on the RP600 but take your reviews with more weight thanks again sean !!
Happy to see you addressed desktop users. Have them try the new iLoud MTM. Holy cow they are so good.
I like the way your talking more than the speakers you are reviewing.
Tested the RP8000's and 6000 with a "warmer" NAD c368, Yamaha as801 and cambridge audio cxa60. The latter was actually a nice fit to my ears. Nice crispy details and a lot of headroom. Was quite surprised because i was planning on ending my journey and buying the b&w 603s
I feel Klipsch has really stepped up their game! I used to think their speakers sounded harsh and not very musical. Used to own RF62, RF83, RF7ii and was not happy with music. When I purchased the rp160m I was shocked how musical they were. I excited to give these new R600m a try. Since then I have owned many nice speakers and the newer Klipsch gears really give other nice speakers a run for their money!
Was RP 600M better than 160 M? I like visually 160 more, but wonder if there's sound difference...
They didn't do it for me. And in part it may be because I didn't get them broken in properly. Some reviewers are suggesting they need quite a bit to get them loose. No idea. I was disappointed immediately. You say clarity. I heard muddy, with sub par definition. I do realize it probably has a lot to do with my small room: 7ft ceiling, about 170 sq.ft. Walls are plaster over concrete. There is a thick room size rug and a very big stuffed sofa, with a couple of quilts on the wall. Because the space is shared I can't do much more in terms of treatment. So, I parked the 600s and built myself a pair of Fountek ribbon MTMs based on the design from Stones Sound Studio in Australia. Somehow, they get past the room, and sound sweet and balanced. I'm driving the Founteks with the same 60W/ch Neurochrome Parallel-86 Power amp I used on the Klipsch.
Klipsch speakers... hate'em...love'em. I own a pair of "RB-81 -mk 2 ", i love'em, specially after i upgrade the x-over with Mundorf MCap EVO Oil caps, and resistors, silver plated Jantzen internal cables, silver plated AMC binding posts.
My thoughts...objectively...the treble is quite amazing, the mids became crisp and tone accurate, the hights are smooth but crisp, the bass...oh...the bass !...lovely, you know how a good bass must be, that's it. Some say that Klipsch is harsh on the hights, i never experienced that, even before the upgrade. Thanks for the review, once again you nailed it.
I actually find Klipsch high frequencies to be dull. Brightness is in the 8000Hz range not higher up in frequency like most people think. I prefer speakers that are extended and sound like the high frequencies go on forever. This the Klipsch speakers are not. I also find they are not great in reproduction of depth.
quite interesting speaker, not for me in my current nearfield listening room, i also like sealed cabinet for more clarity and better sound quality. if i just want to throw something together without a subwoofer in my living room these can be a interesting choice. if they just made a woofer the works in sealed box that would benefit sound quality, as woofer are specialized for either ported or sealed, you could make one that works in both but then they are not perfect for either.
In the late 80’s and early 90’s when I was a college student and was first turned on to “high end” audio (although I dwelt in the entry level strata) the older audiophiles lumped Klipsch in with JBL for being a “has been.” You know, a company that once made great stuff but had inevitably ended making cheaper speakers that dwelled in that purgatory somewhere between mass market mid-fi and true high end. I’d have never even bothered to listen to Klipsch or any gear found at the now defunct Circuit City or Best Buy. Today though, Klipsch is getting the same fanfare as KEF and B&W got 20 to 30 years ago. I guess I should give them a listen.
I picked up a pair of Klipsch rp250f speakers on trade, and wow! The only other speakers I have that can dance with them are my little Quad S1's The RP Klipsch are just musical and give great dynamics, they give great harmonics too. Im NOT a Klipsch guy.
I finally got my RP600M Klipsch's into place in the living room. They are as good or better than you described. I'm an electrical engineer and a musician. I am also unlikely to spend the cost of a Mercedes on a music system.
Said plainly, I am hearing good things on good recordings that have never before been experienced on a long line of Advents, Polks, A.Jones Pioneers, and KLH's. Classical, piano, and organ recordings are, let's say, "clear."
With just about 50 watts (for real, not PR), they are starting to fill an open floor of my house that approximates 24' x 32' x 16'. Initially, I have them on the hypotenuse of a corner, spaced about 10' apart, 3' from the walls, and about 10' from my ears. Yes, there's a sub with 300 watts to do the heavy lifting on the bottom two octaves (60 to about 22 Hz). I can achieve a relatively clear 75dBA as is. My goal is about 15dB more, eventually, but only on occasion. I can wait for that. I'll gladly start with clear and dynamic.
You were spot on. I am pleased. Thanks so much. Thanks to Klipsch. Maybe I should have started with them about 30 years ago.
I picked up the little bothers to these, the R 51M. I really like them, that Klipsch sound is gone, actually pretty impressive for such a tiny speaker. I'll use them in the garage.
I think the little rp51m s will sound great running with a cheapo tube amp or vintage tube receiver! Garage system?! I like it
@@alexanderscott3790 Definitely agree on a small tube amp. I was really impressed with these little Klipsch speakers. I ran them on my SVS SoundBase which is 300 watts of clean power, 150 Watts per channel. These little Klipsch speakers sounded incredibly clean, the horn or tweeter was finally toned down, much nicer sounding then the Klipsch sound I grew up with. And their bass, for their size, was not that bad. Best part, I caught them on sale at BB, $139.00 for the pair + a few dollars in tax delivered.
You and Steve have persuaded me. Now, I need to find an integrated amp replacement for my beleaguered Yamaha receiver. Big room to drive (20 x 32 x 17), listening point ~10 feet in front, so I'm looking for ~100 watts or better, honest RMS continuous power. Needs an MM input and s/w out. Hoping for 100 dB peak at 10'. For others, I wish you'd treat sensitivity a bit more since it means so much to amp power. That data seems under-reported.
Soon. Stand back, Saint-Seans.
I don't want to give too much away, but look up Iota VX. Particularly the integrated+amp combo. REAL good stuff. A review will be coming in April.
I think you need a speaker with a higher spl and deeper bass capability with the size of your room.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt I think you have a point. In defense of the choice, I will be using two existing 12" powered subs to take the strain off the Klipsches at
@@ZeroFidelity Thanks for the clue. Your review of these speakers has motivated me to place an order. Now, what to do with the existing Pioneer - A. Jones power-sumps? :)
If you had to choose your last speaker what would you choose, the Klipsch RP-600M or the
Buchardt S400 ?
Wait...I’m confused. You called them horn speakers. But I read that they’re not horn tweeters, Klipsch calls it a wave guide with a regular tweeter. What are they? Who’s right?
Yup it's a Tweeter with a wave guide. Real Horns uses a compression driver. Klipsch uses compression drivers with their heritage line.
Owned a pair of old school KG 5.2 (big speakers with 10” woofer, 10” passive radiator, and very recessed horn). They were beautiful looking speakers. Very clear and clean sound BUT as you said, shouty and bass was lean.
How are these speakers compare to the previous speakers RP160m ? I am asking because I own RP160m, and want to know should I upgrade to these ?
Thank you for your response.
Great review, what are the chances of you getting your hands on the klipsch RP 4000 I really can’t find any reviews about that speaker! And if you have any opinions, I’d love to hear them
another great review! I like the bonus section, absolutely the further away say 5-6 ft would be great. And spot on for the bass, it depends on the stands, invest on a good one! Thank YOU. For the rest, I think your money would be better spent on the RP160M ($350).
glad you said this- I was going to check these out but I can't imagine that they are THAT much better than the 160's m speakers.
Actually, I think the bass response is about the same, it's the treble that I think is quite different. I prefer the 160m. Both I think are equally open and dynamic sounding. My comments are skewed because I equipped all my systems with iFitube2, so I have better control on openness, treble and bass.
Thank you for a constructive response - much appreciate that.
Anytime Cullen, anytime.
I'd need to hear both speakers, side by side, to say how they stack up. My guess is that the RP160 will be less resolute, dynamic, and less tilted up along the treble. Can't say for sure.
Sean, the most important comparison I'd love to need your view is how does this pair compare to JBL Studio 530. That is in the same price range and is highly rated. Would you recommend this pair over the JBLs?
Hi Sean
How do they compare to Kef LS50 in mids, treble, bass, imaging please
I ahe the klipsch promedia 2.1 computr speakers with the horn tweeters..and i love them. I gree these reviewed speakers would be waaaaay overkill for a compute setup though..but as rear surrounds..or mains in a small room..yeah they are great..:)
Hi. I am considering Martin Logan 35XT bookshelf speakers or maybe the smaller Motion 15s. I would like to see you and others review them and compare them.
Great to see you! Looking hale and hearty! Great review as usual.
Thanks Raj!
Is your nickname Bull? Just kidding!
Hi Sean..good explanation bro.. how about rp 600m vs b&w 606.. which one is better sound quality in term of sound stage, image , balance , dynamic, punchy and naturally? I came in mindset before, these klipsch is more to HT.. for stereophile look like there is manipulation in sound for klipsch.. not sure why😔..
I have some for my HT . Klipsch has a ringer- That "it" speaker that's going to be a big cash cow. As I've said before: $3000 bookshelves that sound great. zzzz. ok fine, for that price they BETTER be. For under $600 a pair? Rock on! There are VERY FEW speakers at that price that I dare call giant killers. STILL not my bag for nearfield, they need space. Older klipsch do shout.
My experience with these speakers did not mirror your own except for the bottom end. The top end was very disappointing. The tweeters sounding like they were playing through a wad of cotton. My room sucks up the high frequencies so I was hoping for a much brighter sound. Plus, that's my own personal preference. When I discussed my issue with a high end audio retailer who carries all of the Klipsch product line, he stated very mater of factly that the RP 600M rolled off the top end pretty good and was not surprised I was not happy with their performance in that area. I think you hit on something in your review when you indicated that they did not sound like a typical Klipsch product in that they were closer to neutral on the treble side. That's not something Klipsch has been noted for in the past. I see from many of the comments that lots of folks love them and I wish I could count myself in that number. Whatever those boys down in Arkansas did to those horns (they did SOMETHING), I think they went a bit too far.
Well, I don't have those magic speaker cables with the Area 51 black boxes on them. (I'm just messing with you) So they are that sensitive to gear, huh? I don't think I like that in a speaker. Still, I was expecting performance on par with your review. Hard to believe my components would make that much difference but they are the only variable (besides the aforementioned secret government technology) so I suspect you're right about that. I spent a little more money and got the SVS Ultra's and you know how that went. They're phenomenal.
@@mikehanks1399 What goes on inside the box, stays in the box. Yeah - these speakers are pretty sensitive to what you pair them up to. As for the Ultras.. I have a set that are still sitting in a box. :) They're on of over a dozen products that are currently awaiting evaluation. Looking forward to finally reviewing em'. :)
I agree but i've always found their horns rolled off. Most people don't realize the brightness range is around 8,000hz -10,000hz and not 15,000hz - 20,000hz.
Do you remember the differences between the sound of the r51 and these not including the bass?
Great review! Liked the bonus section. Thanks for your work.
On sale for $320 right now. Think I might finally pull the trigger
How does this compare with Mission QX-2? in terms of how they sound i mean.. thanks..
I personally need someone to do a comparison video of rp150 and these. Unless klipsch has completely redesigned the horn, I just don’t think the treble in terms of smoothness and refinement can compete with other speakers at the price. Granted, the positives remain true, I thought the rp150 were very dynamic, it was exciting even. The horn does give you that floaty treble and soundstage. One thing I don’t think he mentioned is power handling, if you need a party speaker, the rp150 can reach unlimited spl (it’s commendable). The bad points also persist, poor horn and driver integration (this is a big one for me) makes the sound seems disconnected and flushed out the u shaped profile a bit. Bass is a bit light and the biggest for me was that while there is a good deal of soundstage and imaging, the treble doesn’t sound that refined. I hate to use the word grainy. The treble is elevated and rarely silbant but the detail sounds choppy to me. Additionally the 150 usd price hike is interesting as well. All in all if someone likes the sound of the rp150 they will love them. However at about 400-500 I think elac unifi and especially q acoustics concept 20 must be considered as serious rivals. Both are in my opinion better balanced although the klipsch do different things for sure. So please, comparison and collabo video with Steve jajja. Thanks Sean, nice video
The horn was completely re-designed.
Elac Unifi will require a more powerful amp (>80W(?)).
More bass from the RP-160Ms than the 150Ms ...(and so the 600Ms v the 500Ms(?)) - bigger cabinets.
I haven't heard the 500/600s ... But would have thought you'd want a buyer lined for your 150s - esp if your not gonna get a chance to hear the latest models.
@@progressiveguy9959 Intersesting, I am really curious about hearing them now.
@@ShellstaTubeYou're right the the 600 should have more bass. I looked up thespecs: rp150/500 is 48hz +/-3 and rp160/600 is 45. The elac Ub5 is 46 (i assume +/-3db, it doesnt specify) The elac will require a bit more power as I think they are 85 db sensitivity but a Nad 316BEE 40 wpc A/B can bring them to their limit before running out of gas. With my UF5 (the towers), the nad struggles a bit more . Thats the thing also with the Elac UB5 and the Ls50, the concentric driver has its limits, which are lower in the elac's case before they get really unruly and shouty. The more power you have, the better controlled the bass will be, not the louder they will get. The Ub5/UF5's "taut and controlled bass" is unheard of imo at this price.
Really? Unlimited? I've owned speakers with greater power handling and more sensitive to boot. So they would be..........unlimited plus?
I love mine, great speaker.
I wonder how it compares to 160M
Your description tells the story of civilized, tamed Klipsch
Can you part with it and have fun with them? As 160m were my choice among other speaker producers
Awesome review!
Thank you