😂 mum and dad at home! That’s brilliant, in all fairness you can’t blame the plumber, you do dress like a 12 yo skater boy 😀. Great videos, keep em coming 👍
Brilliant video.. you sure know your stuff, clever lad, well done, looks really neat, we are having one done and I was wondering what was involved and why is it costing so much, now I can see, were only having an upgrade. Thanks for a fab video.
Hi, Non-electrician here, i am looking to update the consumer unit in the house i am currently living in. It is similar to the one in the vid here. At the moment it hardly ever trips. My question is if i get the newer edition could this result in it tripping every 5 minutes resulting in having to have a full rewire. As i would like to avoid that option as i intend to rent the property in the future and want to avoid tearing the house up and spending large large sums on making good. I'd rather do this a few years after renting i.e. when the tenants have done their share of wear and tear. The electrician has undertaken a EICR and rated it as unsatisfactory, but believes that an update can be bade without a rewire. Is that your general experience ?
Really great install as usual. Come on Mr Bundy its surely pronounced WAG....O..... not WAY...GO. Thanks for the crimp set link, been meaning to get some feral crimps (love those wild crimps) for some time..I think I mean ferrule ...touche.
I decided to use CP Fusebox units supplied from ExpertElectrical so far they have proved to be considerably less than experts. Can’t supply the right equipment as the website was out of date showing stock they didn’t have, and then bollocks up the delivery of the replacement item ....maybe they only give decent service to Sparks that big them up online.
Nice to see, thanks for the video. Remember, at any opportunity it is imperative to mention rear entry, the joke never jades from repetition, Adam is going to realise this.
Hi Nick. Great video, very tidy installaton. Did you put all the the sockets on 2.5mm radials fed through 20Amp Rccbo's? Have ever had to fit 16Amp rccbo's due to derating factors? Do you have a rule of thumb for number of sockets on a radial circuit? Do you install ring circuits in domestic properties any more? As an industrial maintenance sparky I dont do domestic installs so i am just interested in the newest install practices. Cheers Ian
I have one of these old fuse boxes and I live a rented house iv got an electrical inspection Monday morning will the old fuse box need to be replaced??
N Bundy Electrical Yeah I found it in an old farm house that had had been added to and added to but every-time it’s been an extension etc and new boards added but not rewired! They’d had someone in before who had clearly seen it but just not bothered! Shocking really but again it sounds like the person who did the work was a handyman/mate from the pub “Who did electrics” etc and no certs and the state of the boards and accessories etc 🤢🤮🤦🏻♂️🤬
lol yes i do the same in the sates except i use the refrigerator circuit makes it so much harder for the occupant to fix just by turning of breaker 🤦♀️.
God your young how time goes by so quickly it's like I was like that once I'm 64 now and a Spark those rubber cables I saw I have replaced loads of those dam things Good video
I rented a house a few years back that had one of those '40A max' meters. Supplier never answered my question as to how they could reliably measure my usage! Did the client not want the new board higher up? Most of these you either find it's next to the ceiling or 2' from the floor, I reckon fitting it at about 1.5m is easiest for me and most of my clients
The old Vulcanised Indian Rubber cables were about the safest thing in that house. Looking at those 70's saple doors and all that ARTEX? Question ; is Artex really that bad!
Wonder who is responsible for heat/power calculation on the new board? In Denmark, complete documentation must be submitted when setting up new boards. Thanks for a great video.👍
From some one still learning appreciate yet another good video 👍can I ask why different crimps on rcbo leads is it due to different size rcbo's different size cables ? And in the tails gland what's the small red bung ? Cheers
I’m sorry but using the cheap end of the market Chinese-import fuse boards that are now prevalent in the market place doesn’t sit right with me. If something goes wrong, i.e. death or injury through product, failure then you’re on your own. At least with using a well known brand of fuse board like Wylex you have that backup and guarantee of quality. Yes you pay more but you know you’ll get the spares and service down the line. Try getting an RCBO for these 5 years or so down the line. Been there done that got burned. I suspect that these import boards don’t even comply with the BSEN’s. Rant over.
Rob check with the manufacturer they have to be tested and do comply I’ve already checked, where do you think 90% of MCB’s RCD’s and RCBO’s are made the Far East!! was it not Wylex a Great British company who had a massive recall on their MCB’s ten years ago!!
There’s a big difference between an importer and a manufacturer. Wylex (the example I’ve used who are part of the Electrium group) have 2 x manufacturing sites & a separate head office which incidentally you can see when driving up the M6 toll! Easy to find website with numerous certification links including UKAS who if you are at all interested are the main UK testing body to certify that a product meets the various BSEN’s. So a bona-fide manufacturer I think you’d agree? I can’t find Fusebox anywhere on google apart from wholesalers selling them. When I asked my local wholesaler about them today he tells me an agent sells them. It seems they operate out of a small office somewhere!? You say they comply? How do you know this? They told you so that’s it? Healthy dose of scepticism has saved my backside numerous times over the years. I’ve looked on the UKAS site and they’ve not submitted their products to be tested. Why would I trust a company that has no presence in the UK, website or proof of UK compliance? I won’t. Yes Wylex had a recall but I and others were PAID to replace the mcbs !! It cost them £millions but they fronted up. Would Fusebox do that? The answer to that is don’t be so silly you’d be on your own. Let’s be honest why are these Chinese imported consumer units being used by certain electricians? Because they’re cheap not because they’re safe. I’ll stick with Wylex thanks and I’ll continue to use their switched neutral RCBo’s which are an amazing bit of kit.
They all carry the CE mark ( Chinese Export). I know what I would like to save my life, something that costs £12 or something that costs £25. Plus the Wholesaler's keep changing their basic ranges all the time. Always stick to the branded kit. Quality not Quantity. Have pride in your work, not profit.! 🍻
@@FGW-ue5xj totally agree. CE mark is to do with single market selling, and not competency of product in relation to local electrical standards. Nick Bundy seems a competent fellow, I suspect he has a commercial affilitiation with this importer hence why we are seeing these product on his videos. I suspect he wouldn't use them in his house! BTW, have you seen the new Wylex miniature RCBO's? They're switched neutral which is a life saver on a re-fit. Also no need to disconnect the neutrals when doing testing anymore..........that's 45mins of saving at least per board in my opinion.
@@Robspark Id agree Rob. If I came across one and needed to get an MCB or RCBO etc no wholesalers stock them. And aren't we fitting metal units now because the manufactures weren't using fire retardants in their pre 18th plastic units, as per the BSEN regulations that they supposedly have to follow. If there's a problem, as always shit will fall on the little installer, not the manufacturer as usual.
I hope that gets answered. but I would make the recommendation of nicking the corners that way it sits in better and it doesn't want to pop itself off.
@@michaelwilmowski7183 Hmm, well it is a fuse board change because the existing unit houses BS3036 fuses. And yes BS3036 fuses (along with other fuses) are still recognised in BS7671. What are you trying to work at and make right with your statement?
Great video Nick why don’t you bring your tails in through the “back door” too especially when using the FuseBox board they have the cable clamps to hold them tight, have you used the new Doncaster cables flexible meter tails you can bend with your fingers they’re ace, smokes and heat detectors are always best connected to the lighting circuit as you say can’t be turned off!!
I used to think that, however the last few clients that wanted the DNO to move the service head, had to source & purchase the meter box and install them, themselves. So imo the box belongs to the client and I'll fit whatever the client requires in there.
Yes, I put a 50mm trunking in for a top entry and future circuits but still a big improvement on the mess at the start. RCBO s, TOP JOB.
😂 mum and dad at home! That’s brilliant, in all fairness you can’t blame the plumber, you do dress like a 12 yo skater boy 😀.
Great videos, keep em coming 👍
And you find “rear entry” humorous.
Normally I would use 50x50 for the cables coming down but the way you've done it does look quite smart actually.
Plumber story: take it as a compliment 😂
Rear Entry never gets old. Nor cuddles in the back of the van! 😂
First time around I'm like must be some inside UK electricians joke.
2nd mention.... OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHW nevermind.
😂😂😂
imark7777777 It’s also a well used skiing joke - there are such things as “Rear Entry Ski Boots” 😜
Brilliant video.. you sure know your stuff, clever lad, well done, looks really neat, we are having one done and I was wondering what was involved and why is it costing so much, now I can see, were only having an upgrade. Thanks for a fab video.
Hi, Non-electrician here, i am looking to update the consumer unit in the house i am currently living in. It is similar to the one in the vid here. At the moment it hardly ever trips. My question is if i get the newer edition could this result in it tripping every 5 minutes resulting in having to have a full rewire. As i would like to avoid that option as i intend to rent the property in the future and want to avoid tearing the house up and spending large large sums on making good. I'd rather do this a few years after renting i.e. when the tenants have done their share of wear and tear. The electrician has undertaken a EICR and rated it as unsatisfactory, but believes that an update can be bade without a rewire. Is that your general experience ?
made a tidy job of that board enjoy your ev course got mine booked in for Nov with NAPIT in bristol get on the gravy train 😂
Rear entry 😍
Really great install as usual. Come on Mr Bundy its surely pronounced WAG....O..... not WAY...GO. Thanks for the crimp set link, been meaning to get some feral crimps (love those wild crimps) for some time..I think I mean ferrule ...touche.
Nice neat job mate! You should try the flexi tails they are amazing to work with.
I had some they where abit short so used the original tails from lighting board 👍
1:23 jheeze adam making sure you dont get caught shit talking! what a lad
I decided to use CP Fusebox units supplied from ExpertElectrical so far they have proved to be considerably less than experts. Can’t supply the right equipment as the website was out of date showing stock they didn’t have, and then bollocks up the delivery of the replacement item ....maybe they only give decent service to Sparks that big them up online.
Awesome 👌
Nice to see, thanks for the video. Remember, at any opportunity it is imperative to mention rear entry, the joke never jades from repetition, Adam is going to realise this.
Hi Nick.
Great video, very tidy installaton.
Did you put all the the sockets on 2.5mm radials fed through 20Amp Rccbo's?
Have ever had to fit 16Amp rccbo's due to derating factors?
Do you have a rule of thumb for number of sockets on a radial circuit?
Do you install ring circuits in domestic properties any more?
As an industrial maintenance sparky I dont do domestic installs so i am just interested in the newest install practices.
Cheers
Ian
Do you typically use 1.5mm 3 core or 1mm 3 core for the smoke alarms?
Mate these videos are brilliant
i love rcbos
I have one of these old fuse boxes and I live a rented house iv got an electrical inspection Monday morning will the old fuse box need to be replaced??
Noice job 🙌🏻
A still can't believe how much VIR is still in service! It seems to be a trend with the elderly? Wheres Dan gone?
Too much talk of rear entry perhaps? X-D
Yeah found a property the other day that has both VIR and Lead cables still in service!! 😳
Still have quite abit around Stafford Jamie, full of old people that have never had there electrics touched
N Bundy Electrical Yeah I found it in an old farm house that had had been added to and added to but every-time it’s been an extension etc and new boards added but not rewired! They’d had someone in before who had clearly seen it but just not bothered! Shocking really but again it sounds like the person who did the work was a handyman/mate from the pub “Who did electrics” etc and no certs and the state of the boards and accessories etc 🤢🤮🤦🏻♂️🤬
Detectors on light cct Good Man👏🏻
lol yes i do the same in the sates except i use the refrigerator circuit makes it so much harder for the occupant to fix just by turning of breaker 🤦♀️.
With the boiler supply did you just run a supply to the boiler or did you run cables in for the thermostats etc to?
your vids are brilliant , thank you
God your young how time goes by so quickly it's like I was like that once I'm 64 now and a Spark those rubber cables I saw I have replaced loads of those dam things Good video
Do you need metal support for cables everywhere now, or just where they cross doorways? Are space factors still part of the 18th?
I rented a house a few years back that had one of those '40A max' meters. Supplier never answered my question as to how they could reliably measure my usage! Did the client not want the new board higher up? Most of these you either find it's next to the ceiling or 2' from the floor, I reckon fitting it at about 1.5m is easiest for me and most of my clients
Was half expecting Adam to tell me to amonst the rear entry 😅
The old Vulcanised Indian Rubber cables were about the safest thing in that house.
Looking at those 70's saple doors and all that ARTEX?
Question ; is Artex really that bad!
Great video Nick. I like the new hoodie 👍
Wonder who is responsible for heat/power calculation on the new board? In Denmark, complete documentation must be submitted when setting up new boards.
Thanks for a great video.👍
I saw in another vid that the SPD had to go through a 16amp breaker? is that right?
You must like the rear entry
It’s a shame fuse box don’t make mini RCBOs, I don’t think I could go back to fitting big ones after getting used to the Hager mini ones.
They are bring them out very soon 🤫
Awesome
N Bundy Electrical same price?
Have fun on ya course.
From some one still learning appreciate yet another good video 👍can I ask why different crimps on rcbo leads is it due to different size rcbo's different size cables ? And in the tails gland what's the small red bung ? Cheers
Small red bung in tails gland is there if the Earth is not running in to the CU same route as tails.
Cheers taz 👍
Cheers taz u beat me too it 👍 and thanks Gary
Cheers nick and was wondering why different different crimps on rcbo leads ??🤔
Is a Lucy block the northern version of a Henley block?!
It’s the single small Henley blocks bud
N Bundy Electrical ah nice thanks! Learnt something new
Cheers for the vids! Do you use all RCBO'S these days mate, seems to be going that way?
Nice little video 👌🏼
I’m sorry but using the cheap end of the market Chinese-import fuse boards that are now prevalent in the market place doesn’t sit right with me. If something goes wrong, i.e. death or injury through product, failure then you’re on your own. At least with using a well known brand of fuse board like Wylex you have that backup and guarantee of quality. Yes you pay more but you know you’ll get the spares and service down the line. Try getting an RCBO for these 5 years or so down the line. Been there done that got burned. I suspect that these import boards don’t even comply with the BSEN’s. Rant over.
Rob check with the manufacturer they have to be tested and do comply I’ve already checked, where do you think 90% of MCB’s RCD’s and RCBO’s are made the Far East!! was it not Wylex a Great British company who had a massive recall on their MCB’s ten years ago!!
There’s a big difference between an importer and a manufacturer. Wylex (the example I’ve used who are part of the Electrium group) have 2 x manufacturing sites & a separate head office which incidentally you can see when driving up the M6 toll! Easy to find website with numerous certification links including UKAS who if you are at all interested are the main UK testing body to certify that a product meets the various BSEN’s. So a bona-fide manufacturer I think you’d agree? I can’t find Fusebox anywhere on google apart from wholesalers selling them. When I asked my local wholesaler about them today he tells me an agent sells them. It seems they operate out of a small office somewhere!? You say they comply? How do you know this? They told you so that’s it? Healthy dose of scepticism has saved my backside numerous times over the years. I’ve looked on the UKAS site and they’ve not submitted their products to be tested. Why would I trust a company that has no presence in the UK, website or proof of UK compliance? I won’t. Yes Wylex had a recall but I and others were PAID to replace the mcbs !! It cost them £millions but they fronted up. Would Fusebox do that? The answer to that is don’t be so silly you’d be on your own. Let’s be honest why are these Chinese imported consumer units being used by certain electricians? Because they’re cheap not because they’re safe. I’ll stick with Wylex thanks and I’ll continue to use their switched neutral RCBo’s which are an amazing bit of kit.
They all carry the CE mark ( Chinese Export).
I know what I would like to save my life, something that costs £12 or something that costs £25.
Plus the Wholesaler's keep changing their basic ranges all the time.
Always stick to the branded kit.
Quality not Quantity.
Have pride in your work, not profit.!
🍻
@@FGW-ue5xj totally agree. CE mark is to do with single market selling, and not competency of product in relation to local electrical standards. Nick Bundy seems a competent fellow, I suspect he has a commercial affilitiation with this importer hence why we are seeing these product on his videos. I suspect he wouldn't use them in his house! BTW, have you seen the new Wylex miniature RCBO's? They're switched neutral which is a life saver on a re-fit. Also no need to disconnect the neutrals when doing testing anymore..........that's 45mins of saving at least per board in my opinion.
@@Robspark Id agree Rob. If I came across one and needed to get an MCB or RCBO etc no wholesalers stock them. And aren't we fitting metal units now because the manufactures weren't using fire retardants in their pre 18th plastic units, as per the BSEN regulations that they supposedly have to follow. If there's a problem, as always shit will fall on the little installer, not the manufacturer as usual.
show us your kit Adam ......... we are doing rear entry,
whose the postman ?
Perfect work ...✌👍
Great video as always mate, where did buy your grey snickers hoodie from? and how much did you pay for it?
Adam knows rear entry is part of the initiation
Fact
@@NBundyElectrical haha.
We've all been there😉
What type and make is that surge protection?
Its a fuse box one 👌
Where did you get that grommet strip Nick?, is it any good?
I hope that gets answered. but I would make the recommendation of nicking the corners that way it sits in better and it doesn't want to pop itself off.
Hey it’s from my local wholesaler mate, so have no link sorry
You should celebrate that glorious moment by buying a hat with a propeller on it.
Can you point where in BS7671 , we can find word " fuse board" ?
Not sure is having a laugh or being a twat.
@@Brynoize people learn from this videos , lets work to make it right ; )
@@michaelwilmowski7183 Hmm, well it is a fuse board change because the existing unit houses BS3036 fuses. And yes BS3036 fuses (along with other fuses) are still recognised in BS7671. What are you trying to work at and make right with your statement?
Its a fusebox consumer uint .
Michael Wilmowski twat
Great video Nick why don’t you bring your tails in through the “back door” too especially when using the FuseBox board they have the cable clamps to hold them tight, have you used the new Doncaster cables flexible meter tails you can bend with your fingers they’re ace, smokes and heat detectors are always best connected to the lighting circuit as you say can’t be turned off!!
Why am I awake?
What Unilite were you using there?
Slr 1750 👍
where are you? can you do one for us please? :)
might give them rcbo boards a go. less than half the price of Hager! cheers for the 10% nice one
Haha. Mum and dad!
haha Nicolas is your mummy or daddy in ? no i looking after my younger brother
HAHA 🤣 YOU SAID REAR ENTRY 🤣
You used meter / DNO space and installed Consumer unit there. That board is for metering equipment only.
Even though the original fuse board for the house was situated there ?
I used to think that, however the last few clients that wanted the DNO to move the service head, had to source & purchase the meter box and install them, themselves. So imo the box belongs to the client and I'll fit whatever the client requires in there.
Extraneous soil stack!!
It’s being removed for plastic 👍
Soil stack.... rear exit!
N Bundy Electrical 👍
you sounded welsh at 2:05
Fortunately the code is Bundy10 and not 10Bundy. Had to sorry, not even a good one.
😂😂
Could have been worse TedBundy now that’s a killer!!
Rear entry 😂
Plumber. You late for school
Lose the hat
Baka neko