The ACC's Notre Dame Gamble: Will it BACKFIRE! | Conference Realignment | UNC | NC ST | FSU | Duke
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- Опубликовано: 20 май 2024
- Conference Realignment news and ANSWERS for you on this Easter Sunday. We're starting with Notre Dame but then getting to FSU, Clemson, UNC, NC State, Duke, and others.
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@CFBAddiction TJ First and Foremost Happy Easter 🐣
Who in your opinion makes it out of this mess and where do you think they end up SEC?? Big10?? And where would you prefer FSU ending up??? I don’t mean to put you on the spot with that last one but I just see FSU being a better fit in the SEC just my opinion being a SEC guy
Ooooo...Getting popcorn ready! If this deals with the ACCs demise, then perhaps two bags of popcorn! LOL
@@drwdwn The FSU, BOD have only discussed the B1G. In fact, FSU will make $100's of millions more than they would make in athletics alone in the B1G. In fact, it's not even close when considering how much more money B1G Universities make over the SEC when considering athletics & academic research.
@@ccurtis2407 you’re right when you put it in that perspective I can understand… I was basically looking thru a smaller lens of sports, geographic and cultural fit compared to the B1G but I definitely agree with your comments…. But I hate you guys won’t be in the SEC because adding FSU to the conference would make the conference a wrecking ball and so much fun to watch and be a fan of….
Im a USC fan so I have no love lost for ucla, Stanford or CAL; however, stanford should be in the B1G for 2 reasons. First USC cant stomach the idea of calling it a win if its against an FCS team which is why its the only FBS team that has never played any FCS teams, it played Stanford in stead. More importantly itd be funny & gratifying to have 3 out of the 4 former California PAC12 schools in the B1G with CAL being the only one left out with nowhere to go
“You should take a breathylizer test.”
Excellent.
Two teams I love. My team and who evet plays Notre Dame.
I am a PSU fan who actually rooted for Pitt in basketball against ND ( first time ever rooting for Pitt in my life). That is how anti ND I am.
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Who did you cheer for when played OSU?
Notre dame belongs in the big ten. There is a big circle that surround them. It would be a good for them. It's a good fit for them
it would only be good for Notre Dame if Big 10 adds a few southern teams. At least 1 Florida and some Carolina teams (UNC, Clemson, NCSU). The fear of Notre Dame in joining the Big 10 for years would be sacrificing its "national brand" to become just another midwest team like Michigan. Michigan won the title this year and more power to them. For all the crap ND takes Michigan has been just as dormant if not more so than Notre Dame before last season. Ohio State has edge on Michigan big time in modern era, its not close. The reason I bring this up is because Ohio is actually a really good state for recruits and usually has a couple top 25 high school teams if not a top 5-10 ranked high school team every year. It's not Texas / Cali / Florida but its still really good where it can sustain an elite program especially OSU. Michigan is behind Ohio but still decent and still ahead of Indiana. Notre Dame relies on it's national brand and it's exposure in the Southeast to recruit places like Florida, Georgia, North and South Carolina etc. Notre Dame whole reason for the ACC partial deal from a football standpoint is to get exposure in Southeast. The Big 10 as currently constructed does not offer that. If the Big 10 adds FSU, Miami, Georgia Tech, UNC or something like that then its a whole different ballgame.
I disagree. I hope Notre Dame keeps it's independence for a long time.
@@tomdemay6147notre dame will still play a usc and maybe navy/ stanford every year giving it some national prominence
@@LilBoiPeep69 ND wants prominence in the southeast. Stanford and Navy dont matter for ND prominence and especially not for in the Southeast.
@@tomdemay6147 they say this? they could prob do something similar to what they did with the ACC and have arranged non conference matches
Yes, ACC mistakenly allowed ND partial membership, ND is a fence rider, half in, half out. If ACC was smart, remove ND from the equation unless ND goes all in to the ACC
Thanks for the shoutout on the last comment! First off Happy Easter to you and your family! Secondly you’re still the most sensible even with the last take on going independent. It just makes sense for FSU, Clemson, UNC, etc to be out before June 30th. Thirdly I loved the reply comment to mine about how someone thinks Nebraska hates being in the B1G. Which is why the university has a goal to restore their AAU status and the new AD we have was brought in with football chops to specifically be a leading voice in B1G rooms and NCAA rooms he is already a part of. Lastly Husker baseball is 19-5 as of right now, so I feel your excitement for the Noles baseball now. I for one hope for a good rivalry in the future for all sports between the two schools!
Happy Easter. 🐣🐇✝️ Hope you and your family have a blessed one!
I thought you were crazy when you were saying over 1 year ago that it was a possibility for 8 teams to dissolve the ACC. Then the magnificent 7 story came out a few months after. You are right literally 99% of the time. CFB Addiction, Double Fries No Slaw, and PATC w/ Greg Fluguar are my go to for realignment. You guys are legit.
Appreciate. Yeah it’s always been the laws of non profits in North Carolina. We got that from the Atlantic from years ago.
I belive that my sons will see a college football league of 32 teams in their 20y.
And will have to watch on streaming.
Sad future.
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It is all misguided. People already have the NFL and it is a better product from a pure excitement of the game standpoint. CFB has a lot to do with tradition as the games are not as “on any given Sunday” in terms of parity and drama as the nfl. If you wreck all the tradition you still won’t have the parity so they will kill the sport.
I LOVE watching your videos as they are very informative and entertaining as well. I certainly don't think you're crazy. You just have a lot of passion for FSU and as an FSU alum, I feel you on that. Also, I was in the Marching Chiefs with Doug Rohan and I know he wouldn't get involved with someone who is crazy. LOL. He's a good guy and I love listening to his commentary on the legal-ese of all of this. I currently live in Ann Arbor, so, not going to lie that I TOTALLY have a personal ulterior motive to see FSU in the B1G. Thanks for doing what you do. I look forward to the video you do when it is official that FSU is no longer an ACC member! #FSUstrong
Thank you, appreciated!
I remember when the ACC arrogance figured their conference would take over MSG for their tournament. It will be funny if/when their conference falls apart.
It's the ACC fault when they allowed the Notre Dame basketball team to join and not the football program ACC should have said it's all or none
Then they would not have had them at all and I think the ACC saw ND as a prestigious get, even without football membership.
I’m a big Notre Dame fan, but they are guilty of blowing up the Big East and ACC😢
You might have a better recollection than I do, but I don't really think that's fair to ND. The original Big East was a basketball first conference (Dave Gavitt's original vision) that tried to play football too late in the game and didn't have enough brands to pull it off. I don't think ND would have saved them.
Fans of most ACC schools, I feel sorry for, but not the conference itself. What goes around, comes around. They were more than happy to raid the Big East and now they're mad that it's happening to them. There are still salty people that cry about uconn suing back then, but now they are giving Phillips the old "atta boy" because they know their mid schools are gonna be G5 pretty soon, themselves. (I'm looking at you, BC! 😂). Circumstances are little different with the contracts involved, but it's the same principle. Once you lose your biggest football brands, you're G5.
As an ND fan and Alumnus I have always hated their relationship with the ACC and blame falls squarely on the incompetent shoulders of Swarbrick.
They should have joined B10n 30 years ago. They are not really even in "Independent" now. It's about more than FB.
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Swarbick is the sole reason nd isn’t irrelevant right now. He saved their covid season. Literally made a chair at the table for the notre dame. Crushed the new play off deal. You are delusional hahah.
Thanks TJ for what you say (before) on each video . With political , and sports issues …ppl get “real”. You acknowledge it and “crave” it because you say it on each video! You know the “comments” can get rough at times but accept and pursue it! Ppl are passionate and passionate about what they believe , yet you mention it each week! It’s different from what most similar platforms do! Keep being you brother:)
Thank you, appreciate 🤝
Speaking of baseball… Clemson had 2 walk off 9th inning wins at FSU last week. That second win was an epic win after being down by 7 in the bottom of the 9th. Just had to gloat a little here…m😅👍
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Good for Clemson. FSU is on the climb up not that we are what we once were. Hope we both make it to Omaha
Great show buddy...
Thank you!!
The SEC understand that the sum of its parts is greater than the whole. The conference pulls in the same direction together. Texas and Oklahoma didn't understand that. USC and UCLA didn't understand that. Florida State boggles my mind.
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Thanks for shouting out my comment!
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I am so sick of hearing about ND and the Big 10. The Big 10 will be fine without them. The truth is the Big 10 added two excellent football teams in Oregon and USC, plus two very good ones in UCLA and Washington ( both of which brings great academics and research $ ( in fact, UCLA brings more research $ then any school in America except MIT)). Besides those four they might add FSU ( and others) as well. Let ND stay in the ACC with Boston College and Wake Forest, Big 10 does not need them.
You ain’t kidding!
And we sure as h*ll don’t need or want the Big “Ten” (maybe they can learn to count someday)
The Big Ten doesn't need them or want them. But to be honest ...ND needs to belong to a conference and the obvious fit is the Big Ten.
Regardless of whom one supports, having more competitive games shouldn't be too much to ask for. That is why I wanted to see Notre Dame either go full time ACC or join the B1G that way there would be more meaningful games on schedule.
Now granted, I am more of a college basketball fan than I ever was college football prior to the CFP implementation. My concern was always how this would affect the ACC basketball schools. A lot of those with the football-centric mindset doesn't pay much regard to Duke-UNC and its significance the last two generations. Losing those on-campus conference games will be nothing less than tragic if UNC goes anywhere by themselves, hence all the commotion from NC State.
I suspect before long since ESPN is still a partner, they would find a way to merge a few ACC schools with the SEC so they would at least maintain TV rights. My guesses are UNC, Clemson, and UVA get full shares in SEC while Duke, NCST, and VTech obtain reduced SEC payouts with performance initiatives.
Guilty. If the North Koreans played ND in a football game, I would pull for the North Koreans.
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Then I suggest you go to a DPRK home game sometime
Don"t forget its not only football it's also there also the research money that some Univ bring in, Northwestern is a power house in that respect, the research money makes what football money look like peanuts.
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So put Clemson, FSU and whichever other big brands there are in the ACC in the Notre Dame bag. Means more games to sell to NBC and more potential marquee matchups with prime ad rates and ticket prices. Let them schedule 6 conference games and 6 OOC matchups. Plenty of room for FSU and Clemson to rock our world with 2 or 3 more major games and it cuts out the nooners at wake forest and boston college for at least 3:30 kicks in Louisville or a primetime TNF matchup in Blacksburg.
Great video
Thank you 🤝
Future 34-team CFB Super League w/ unequal revenue sharing and regional conferences:
Pacific Conference
- Oregon
- Washington
- Cal
- Stanford
- UCLA
- USC
- ASU
- Utah
Big 8 Conference
- Nebraska
- Colorado
- Missouri
- Oklahoma
- Texas
- Texas A&M
- LSU
- Arkansas
South Coast Conference
- Ole Miss
- Alabama
- Tennessee
- Miami
- Florida
- Florida State
- Georgia
- South Carolina
Atlantic Conference
- Wisconsin
- Iowa
- Michigan
- Ohio State
- Maryland
- Penn State
- North Carolina
- Virginia
Independent
- Notre Dame
- Clemson or Auburn
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ND agreed to be with ACC to play to eastern alums and fans (NY). They then pushed really hard to add Stanford, Cal, and SMU. Add to this the drama of the ACC, and ND is pulling a play on 18 other schools. Thus, FSU,Clemson, and probably UNC are looking out for themselves. No blame or fault can be placed for this. #GoHeels. #GDTBATH
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Rutgers fan here! I enjoy the insights and frankness of this cast. I am so grateful that RU has apparently won the entire realignment lottery. I agree, ESPN has destroyed college football for everyone. That being said, the NCAA has performed horribly with every single topic. Realignment, transfer portal, and NIL. A bunch of fat cats living high on the hog and underperforming every day. I see ND and NC coming to BIG to max out at 20would be the conf BEST decisions for value added, although FSU has to have a guaranteed landing spot to be so vocal, no? I think Clemson and Miami ultimately make it to SEC, but NCstate and Virginia may be added to even the P2 conferences at 20 each.
Thank you, much appreciated Rutgers ❤️
Rutgers never felt right in the B1G. Neither does Maryland. I’d like to see RU, WV, Cincy, Lville, Pitt, MD in the same conference. I liked the Big East. Maybe add Wake, SMU, Houston, JMU, App, Liberty, Tulane, TCU, VT, and VA. That would be an interesting conference.
@@GDoggy-em2xcYou will see how much Rutgers fits in the BIG this season. Go RU!!!!!!!
For every lawyer who can write a good contract, there’s another lawyer who will try to find a way to break it.
Oregon and UDub are not full B1G $shares$ until 2030. Thats not permanent, but its quite a while, & a trend that will certainly continue with any potential ACC adds
However, I don't think that's the SECs style.
I'm indifferent to Notre Dame. They aren't good enough for me to care where they land.
And as them being selfish goes, everyone looks out for their own self-interest. So their actions are probably similar to what everyone else would have done in those circumstances.
If they want to remain independent, then more power to them. And if the P2 want to have AQs when the playoff gets to 16, then ND will be left out. The B10 and SEC will not let ND stand in the way of whatever goal they are working toward.
Personally I don't blame Notre Dame for the collapse of the ACC, the ACC did that all on their own. However I do believe that Notre Dame didn't do the ACC any favors. I don't like the idea that a collage team can act with impunity like Notre Dame does. I feel like they need to be brought back down to earth because they haven't been that great in any of their sports in quite a while. When I say that I mean they haven't been relevant in quite a while. Just my 2 cents.
One problem is FSU is acting like the GOR is with some boogie man rather than the GOR being an agreement between 14 or 15 teams. So, FSU really has a deal with BC, Cuse etc. GOR will have to be a separate issue and until that one is solved, probably in federal court as it involves a Class of 14/15 in something like 9 states.
Once that is solved, then the claims that the ACC did not do whatever can go forward. But the idea that FSU or anyone can get out free with a reason being the ACC did not keep pace with the SEC/Big 10 is a non starter.
Check back with us tomorrow. 😎
See you soon Notre Dame! I am inevitable.
Sincerely,
The Big Ten.
Notre Dame could join the SEC. The SEC would gladly welcome Notre Dame.
@@Patrick-sg7cm Technically, yes. But Notre Dame won’t be doing that. They are a perfect cultural, athletic, and academic fit with the Big Ten. They’re almost none of those things when it comes to the SEC. Same can be said for the Big 12.
@@briggsofdisaster Notre Dame would never join the Big 12. However, they might form a scheduling alliance with them if the ACC were to collapse.
@@Patrick-sg7cm Not out of the question, but I wouldn’t put money on it. Notre Dame wouldn’t want to be perceived as less than the Power 2.(Big Ten, SEC)
@@Patrick-sg7cm If Notre Dame were to join a conference, it would be the Big 10.
It is just like Wall Street having stocks the more you invest in stocks the more shares far as in stocks you will receive more in return
There is a wildcard. It's a long shot. Amazon and Apple being somewhat desperate to get a foot hold into college football, they could make an overpriced offer to a new ACC conference. Not likely but possible.
People get upset at Notre Dame when they act in their own self interest but every school has shown they do the same thing. Every school that jumped from one conference to another to chase money has done so regardless how it affects the conference they leave. Every conference that poaches teams from another shows no regard. Any team who hasn’t done so it’s only because a better opportunity hasn’t come along or hasn’t been offered.
The ACC didn’t give a damn when they raided the Big East multiple times and they knew the deal they were making with ND. Let’s not shed any tears.
11:01 I think it almost makes more sense to “ding” schools that have been taking in full shares as current members, yet choosing NOT to spend an agreed-upon portion on football. But to say a newly-invited school should take a permanent cut as punishment makes no sense - if you have had a crappy tv deal, you can’t be expected to spend like B10/SEC. Why not consider giving them full share to start, with commitments to invest? I know SU would LOVE to have B10 money to bring us back up to our previous heyday, along with all the investments they have already been making in facilitiies projects lately, and the renewed commitment to the program by Coach Fran Brown. If they come in, and DON’T commit, THEN slash their share.
Guilty
The ACC needed ND to get the bump in pay, keep bowl access, and keep Clemson and FSU from leaving for the Big 12 in 2013. ND should have never been given a full vote for only five games and a weak conference agreement that can be easily voided by ND. Now, if the ACC survives, these lesser schools will spend most of their budgets on travel to California. Playing ND once every three years in football won't cover that.
As a Nole, I'm actually excited to see how badly the Irish treat the ACC schools. My guess is when the Noles leave they will rewrite the bowl agreement and revenue sharing to be even more favorable to ND. ND can probably pull one of those two ACC CFP bids for themselves. ESPN will do anything to keep ND off of Fox. I think ND is actually happy making about 88 million with the ACC deal, the NBC deal and the CFP money. The ACC will be so weak, I'm sure the TV networks would lobby to make one ACC auto bid open to a top 25 ND team. They think FSU was greedy and abusive wait til they meet their Irish overlords 😂😂😂
Thank you for the NCSU respect🤙🐺🚨
What a win yesterday. Y’all had me worried in the first half, not gonna lie lol.
Kept it within striking distance though. Team is so much fun. Go win 2 more.
What a win yesterday. Y’all had me worried in the first half, not gonna lie lol.
Kept it within striking distance though. Team is so much fun. Go win 2 more.
Academics are important to the B1G because their research money far outweighs their sports revenue. Its why they go after big state funded institutions with high academics. They would never do something athletic revenue wise that would cause Illinois or Northwestern to leave the conference. If they did they would lose access to the teaching hospitals and research grants in Chicago. Note that U of Chicago (which left the conference athletically long ago) is still part of the research part as is John Hopkins. That's why when you look at adds, you need to look at AAU and who will help research grants. Getting into Florida not only helps athletics, it helps research. B1G affiliated schools make up 28% of the AAU. The B1G sponsored Miami in and they would sponsor FSU too. The B1G also really wants into the NC research triangle. That's why they wouldn't let NC go without a fight. As far as ND goes, there are as many nay sayers in the conference as voters for. ND tried to get NW and PSU to go to the ACC years back, which is why B1G went after Maryland, Virginia, and NC then. VA and NC are probably kicking themselves now.
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Miami doesn’t have to really do much of anything. Let FSU and Clemson, who have state backing resources, take the lead. When the dust settles, Miami will be in the B1G with FSU. Miami’s AD knows this.
What about ND having to join the acc if they join any conference?
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Notre Dame fan here. It wont backfire on Notre Dame because Notre Dame is still a top 10 brand (if not higher) in college football. They have the NBC deal which buys them time and allows them to see how the landscape changes. Notre Dame has the leverage where there will almost always be a spot for them in any conference they want. Due to this i think its in ND self interests not to join a conference now. Why join the Big 10 and they maybe the Big 10 doesn't get the Southern teams (FSU, Miami, UNC etc) that Notre Dame wants them to pick up. If the ACC survives ND can stand pat, if Big 12 is able to get teams like Miami and NC State then ND might be able to get a "partial" deal with Big 12 just like it currently does with ACC. If Big 10 does destroy ACC and picks up 4+ big southern brands and Big 12 only gets leftovers like Pitt and Louisville then ND might be "forced" to join the Big 10 at that point. But Big 10 would still take ND and the SEC and Big 12 would still take ND too even if they have 22/24 schools they wouldn't turn down ND. So ND best move right now is to see how this plays out and I do NOT see that as a gamble in any way.
The ACC should have forced their hand, yes. It's been 7 years, you've had your fun, join or leave. We'll let you play 2020, but you must pay 75m and leave if you don't want to join.
Alternatively, the ACC could have instead offered FSU/CU (and perhaps Miami/UNC) the ND deal. Partial membership, scheduling deal, semi-pretend "independence" and the right to sell their home games.
would have been very hard to force ND hand. Covid was only real shot at that. They should have gave FSU / CU the ND deal as you say, they should have done unequal revenue distribution and told teams like Wake Forest to kick rocks. Now Wake Forest can look forward to being in the new Big East football conference with UConn, Syracuse, Boston College etc. People overlook how much money ACC made from ND partial deal. If ACC tried to force ND hand and ND left conference ACC would just implode quicker. ND brings in more revenue to the ACC than it takes. Some of the ACC highest rated TV games last year were ND games (Duke, Louisville and Clemson). Two of these were primetime ACC TV games which bring in the big money. The one that wasn't was in a down year for Clemson and still brought in huge ratings for the conference.
@@tomdemay6147 It's fine if ND leaves, it is caustic to have them... for the ACC. Get to the point where you are not in danger of losing members and you're safer as a conference. Though I agree with basically all of what you said.
The damage was already done when they raided the Big East and began the ruination of the conference culture while setting the stage for what we have now.
B1G will add FSU, give a nod to Notre Who and if they are still no takers, then Clemson is added and they go to 10 or 11 conference games, essentially locking out ND.
The only BIG team ND cares about is USC. Look how they threw out the Michigan, MS and Purdue rivalries.
Big ten will be expanding to 20 teams. When that happens, go to an all conference schedule. Notre Dame will be unable to schedule any BIG10 teams which would be fine with me. I don't want ND in the Big10 because of their complete arrogance!
Yeah tell USC they can't play ND or Oregon play OS or Washington play WS. Not happening.
ND contributed not in the best interest of the conference. Using weight and power to add (3) teams to survive.
ND is a guilty as hell...
If Notre Dame joins either the B1G or SEC they will be a middle of the road football team at best which is probably the reason why they haven’t joined and if they don’t join the B1G they can take their hockey team with them.
I am a Notre Dame fan no one forced notre dame yet any team does what ND do if they can
Nc State has been to 2 final 4's I 40 years. Have Ben to the NIT tournament more than the NCAA tournament. I think the Tarheels have been to the NCAA tournament a few more times than that in the last 40 years. Also the ACC doomed themselves when they tried to become a football conference. The ACC is a Bball conference not a football conference. Be who you are like the Big East.
Notre dame still wants to be independent
ND drained the BigEast and the ACc and now the B12 is begging for the same setup. SMH.
The Big 12 survived being nearly killed off by Texas 2 times. Notre Dame isn't going to kill off the Big 12.
Get better negotiators. Woe is you 😂
ND,Miami,FSU ,Carolina ,GT NC St,any Texas school and Utah,to the B1G! Fox for the win!
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Guilty, but they weren’t the main reason why. The main reason why the ACC is failing is because their commissioners signed a ridiculous contract that favored ESPN so heavily. Now where ND is guilty is voting in Cal, Stanford, and SMU in. Diluting the value of the conference. Pissing FSU and Clemson off.
“when the transfer portal came into the game, people said it would ruin the sport. when NIL came into the game, people said it would ruin the sport”
umm… haha it totally has
I don’t think you’re crazy. Very good content.
Thank you. Appreciate!!
You want a conference? ND, BC, BYU, Baylor, TCU, SMU, Temple, Gonzaga, Georgetown, Loyola, and (ugh) Liberty.
lol like we join a conference
I’m not ever going to advocate we join a conference
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Guilty as hell....
You’re wrong. The only thing that other schools should be jealous of is the fact that Notre Dame has their own TV contract for all of their home games - and some neutral site games too. Nobody else has this.
The NBC contract allows them to stay independent and to have other networks and services to pay to have them when Notre Dame plays away games.
The day the Domers are just another school they will decline like they have on the field since 1989.
No school will ever take a permanent discount. Gotta be a way to earn a full payout some where down the road.
The B1G is perfect for Notre Dame.
I dont understand the hate for ND - the garbage schedule argument is just not correct… they had one of the hardest schedules in college football last yr with 5 ranked games back to back to back to back. Also ND baseball and lacrosse has become strong other the past couple years so its not like they are a football only school?
As a Clemson fan I hate to see the ACC dissolve. Just hope we have a landing spot and continue to play FSU. Never will forgive you for that punt rooskie game. Go tigers
By your words on spending the Big10 and SEC should probably kick out a few schools then
Relegation is a slippery slope. We should probably do an episode on why this isn’t going to happen.
If ND had Joined the conference 4-5 years ago they could have helped establish a new deal with ESPN resulting in every ACC Team getting a better deal including ND. And maybe even adding other big brand teams potentially like TX or Oklahoma before they got gobbled up by the SEC. But ACC leadership past and present (Swafford and Phillips) have no foresight and have both been wooed and mesmerized by ND's bullshit and stall tactics. ND has only made better deals for themselves and its not ND's fault it's the ACC and it's incompetent Leadership. This has bought us to where we are today. So if anyone is to blame for what's to come of the ACC it's both the ACC and Notre Dame. ACC better hope and pray North Carolina and NC State doesn't enter these lawsuits against them and even if they don't FSU and Clemson might have already done enough.
I don’t believe that schools who invest more,should get more of the pie. I do however believe that schools who achieve more,should get money. There should be 3 tiers in the B1G. Top 5,one rate. 6-12 another rate. 13-last the lowest rate. This compensation rewards excellence,not quite monetary investment,but it does obviously “usually” go hand in hand. There has been the occasional NW,that has risen past its supposed pecking order. When that anomaly happens,their bag should be filled.
This would have been ideal prior the paying players. It’s unrealistic to be achievement based after that. Now, the teams who invest more, can afford better players and will win more going forward. You aren’t going to have situations where scrappy teams investing 1/2 as much compete. Those games are now going to become like top tier division 1 vs division 2. Ohio State vs Rice.
Maybe I’m just a bad lil Buckeye,that doesn’t like sharing 🤷🏾♂️… something definitely needs to change though.
Guilty and Super Duper Guilty As Fck!
Guilty!
"Get rid of ESPN" is such a nonsense position. Before ESPN and 24/7 sports networks, if you weren't a headliner game of the week, you weren't on TV, period. I am old enough to remember NU's title runs in the 90's and even a championship caliber team of that era, half of the games the best you could do for coverage was a radio broadcast. There is 0 chance that we are going back to that.
There will be a sports network after ESPN. No worries.
🤣 necessary evil
Guilty!!
You cannot as a Clemson or FSU fan say we have to separate because our brand is better then criticize ND for how they manage their brand.
🤝Good point
NOTRE DAME GUILTY!!
Note Dame belongs where it wants to be. Big Ten already have 2 Indiana schools. We don’t need another. Kick rocks on this crap.
Norte Dame should be either in or out of the ACC. Not in the ACC for just basketball
GUILTY!
@ 9:30 regarding the Big Ten, this is what talking heads and others do not get about the Big Ten. And certaintly nothing is certain. But the Big Ten was based on chemistry and schools wanting to play together. That is where those numerous rivalry trophies and shared revenue model came from. The Big 12, ACC, and SEC were formed or expanded out of power and greed.
We expanded not by poaching teams. We expanded to protect our footprint or other a lifeline to schools seeking a landing spot.
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Lol ND was never gonna be a full ACC member
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Notre Dame Stanford NC and Duke should go big 10 if the ACC implodes. We need a healthy ACC for the sake of college sports. Healthy enough to pop the big 10 and the sec
As far as returns, what about this:
Team A puts "$X" in for fb & Team B puts "$1/2X".....& say Team A does better; WHAT IF Team B puts "$Y" in for basketball & Team A only does "$1/2Y"...& Team B does better.
It's the same argument except the sport each team is better in is different.
What happens then?
I think you are going to see two things happen naturally, once SEC and BIG get who all they want. Minimums will be set for both football and basketball across the SEC and BIG10. Then the SEC and BIG10 will move together to take over basketball in the same exact way.
@@CFBAddictionI know, extreme examples, but say Team A goes undefeated in fb & Team B loses every game; HOWEVER that's flipped in basketball where Team B goes undefeated & Team A is winless.
I DON'T think conferences are going to remove teams due their poor performance in a particular sport .
In my example, WHO deserves to be cut?
My team is on the outside looking in with no realistic hope for the future (We f*cked around and found out). However, in the case of Notre Dame, us outsiders would love it if someone would just say no to the B1G/SEC at least one time. The P2 are the beautiful cheerleaders for whom all of the guys fall over themselves. Notre Dame is the closest thing we have to a Chad, that could actually tell the mean girls to go pound sand. In the end we know that the Irish will fall in line, but us A/V Club guys can dream can’t we?
Interesting take!
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Do you ever think the SEC and big 10 would get rid of lower teams so they can add others
Not unless it was voluntarily, and I don’t see them ever volunteering. What will happen is those teams will be forced to spend a % of revenue on football every year to stay in. The teams inside already are grandfathered in IMHO. It’s a slippery slope when you start trimming because the logic used to cut 1 makes the same sense when you cut 2 and so on.
The guy who said notre dame ruined the acc is a 🤡. USC ucla Texas n Oklahoma ruined it more then notre dame jumping conferences. Literally what he said makes no sense
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Yeah, I ain't buying the previous 2024 FSU independence movement. Lol ... I'm glad we've moved on to something more likely / pressing
May want to avoid tomorrow’s episode. 😎
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Best thing that happen to Big East is Notre Dame leaving - we do not need them - and they brought nothing - ACC - Big Ten u can have ND
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We'll agree to disagree.
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I’m an alumnus. NO, NOTRE DAME DOES NOT BELONG IN THE BIG “TEN”. We tried to join repeatedly, and were blackballed repeatedly. Gotta tell you, every, EVERY, university looks out for their interests.
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Conferences have become way too big. I liked the ACC better when it was only eight teams. I think a twelve team maximum should be imposed on all conferences. This alone would solve many problems by making more conference winners and more opportunities to play in an expanded tournament. The timing and duration of the transfer portal needs to be addressed with restrictions to make the coaches job easier. NIL needs to be capped so that there is no gain from transferring. Good show.
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17 ACC schools. At most only 8 have homes elsewhere. In all likelihood only 6 will leave for the B10, SEC and Big12.
That means 9-11 will be screwed. All the teams joined the ACC willingly. The last 3 were the best on the board. FSU and others who want to leave should pay what is owed whther it is 100M or 400M.
Big12 eating doesnt help them. They are adding equal level. Hope only 4-6 teams leave and the ACC remain viable.
FSU fans suggesting that the conference be dissolved dont care that most schools will get screwed. FSU SHOULD DO THEIR OWN THING..... And not suggest other schools try and leave resulting in them having no home.
Only 2 teams getting into the B10 and 2 into the SEC. Suggesting Miami, who might not have a home or Vtech who can only make a lateral move is selfish.
While i want FSU in the B10, i could care less about fans like you who dont mind leaving scorched earth just so FSU get out as quickly and cheap as possible.
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We got some bad news coming for you tomorrow. You may want to skip it. But I suspect when the national media reports it after the NCAA tourney wraps, you will know.
@@CFBAddiction I love Conference Realignment.... and I have no skin in the ACC or Big12. So unless the news is FSU to the SEC (which would be more bad news for FSU then for me - I am ok with Miami in lieu of FSU, but would prefer you).
FSU long-term would have more success in the B10 than in the SEC. You really don't want Miami as the B10 school while you and UF are in the SEC.
If the news is that somehow FSU convinced a few teams 5-8 to disband and join the Big12, then ND is coming to the B10 with Miami or UNC or FSU(if smart)...
So dismantling the ACC benefits the B10... I just feel bad for teams 7-17 in the ACC...
ND and any ACC team is more value than any 2-4 teams that the SEC could add. If anything a total disbanding of the ACC is preferable as that could mean only 2 teams to the B10 vs 4(with ND coming later after a slow ACC death) which could dilute.
Only way B10 loses is if we don't get any Florida schools or UNC, and the ACC lives with ND. And that doesn't happen if you Con enough ACC schools into leaving
FSU and Clemson just need to pony up and go away. The ACC isn’t going anywhere.
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@@CFBAddiction you will not get 8 teams to agree to disband the ACC by June 30, that is a pipe dream of fsu fans. Not gonna happen. Put up or shut up.$$$$
The NCGA has teeth. It's called purse strings
I dont understand the fascination with Notre Dame
As the distinguished Dave Skylark once said in the interview. They Hate Us Cuz They Anus.
One of the biggest brands in college football while also being a religious school- also they are a very blue collar school where they are ivy league level academics and reserch so its a full package for any conference. They also have been ranked in lacrosse,baseball,basketball in the past couple years not just football
I got a hold of FSU's SEC schedule for 2026 (no, not really but let's have some fun here); Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Texas A&M, LSU, Florida, Oklahoma, and Tennessee. Sounds like a cake-walk, huh?
16:02 If FSU & Clemson leave by end of June, the media rights with ESPN are redrawn, as widely-reported. The idea that the rest of us then get to keep the current media deal through 2036 is not a thing. Why on earth would we “play nice” with schools leaving who end up destroying our programs in their wake? You talk about who is investing and who isn’t, but how can you be expected to invest on a competitive level when your tv deals aren’t paying as much? If the AFC & NFC had wildly different media rights and no salary cap, you would see the same thing happen in the NFL.
Everyone’s going to act in their own best interest. If you want to be mad, I’d suggest targeting the morons who didn’t tie the agreement to the market rate when it was close in value to the SEC. Who signs a contract that last 20 years without locking down competitive rate guarantees. The people who ran the ACC (Swafford) are directly to blame for where we currently are. No league can survive being paid 1/2 as much as another.
EXACTLY! So why are our programs all trashed for “you don’t spend like other schools do”, when our tv contracts don’t allow us to? It’s not our fault. I DO blame the ACC for making stupid financial negotiations on our behalf. If the tv rights were roughly equal across conferences, so would the product on the field - at least for schools that WANT it to be, and I put SU in that category. We just need the infusion of money to build on what we’ve been able to fund raise to do. It makes me so mad how Vandy and Northwestern, etc actually DO get those funds, and don’t seem to care how privileged they are to have been “grandfathered in” to the P2.
Schoking thought: what if neither the sec nor Big10 want fsu ?
I guess it’s possible. But that is literally saying the same thing as they want to make less money.
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