ACC on High Alert! SEC Source Reveals Leagues Top Targets | Conference Realignment | BIG12 | BIG10
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- Is the ACC about to get raided? A leaked SEC source reveals the conference's top targets, including some of the ACC's biggest names. Will Clemson, Florida State, or other powerhouses be heading to the SEC? Tune in to find out the potential impact on college football!
ACC:
Boston College Eagles
Duke Blue Devils
Florida State Seminoles
Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets
Louisville Cardinals
Miami Hurricanes
North Carolina Tar Heels
NC State Wolfpack
Pittsburgh Panthers
Syracuse Orange
Virginia Cavaliers
Virginia Tech Hokies
Wake Forest Demon Deacons
SMU (joining in 2024)
Cal (joining in 2024)
Stanford (joining in 2024)
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Clemson is top 5 in baseball, went to the elite 8 in basketball, and football is a contender every year
Reigning national champion in mens soccer, women's soccer made college cup, ranked in women's lacrosse, gymnastics, and softball.
Florida State is not Notre Dame
You’re right ! FSU is a better football school .
Your right fsu is way better
Officiating should be national and standardized and held accountable, but not to any conference.
It is difficult to get an entire conference to agree on priorities, let alone all of FBS. Then there is even less reason for FBS to take into consideration what FCS, Div II, or Div III teams want.
They are all bank president & car dealership owner types that never are fired. The never are fired part needs drastic changes. They need to be held accountable for a bad job done just like all other employees. That game film does not lie.
FSU probably wants the B10 and vice versa
FSU would not want to do all that travel if they don't have to.
@@davidframe1613 I'm thinking they won't be alone. UNC and maybe Miami is a target too
The B1G will only take the flagship school of any state. Neither Clemson, FSU, or Miami qualify. UNC and UVA do.
@@johneaston197 actually, the State of FL has officially made both UF and FSU state flagships. In any event, FSU is a flagship, just like Texas A&M. The B1G would take TAMU in a second, just like FSU.
@@johneaston197Penn State? Michigan State?
Sorry TJ, Clemson is the real Death Valley. LSU’s was nicknamed Deaf Valley and then morphed to Death Valley.
An SEC guy complaining about officiating to an ACC guy is like a kid complaining to an orphan that his butler is sick.
You gotta respect an LSU fan who wants FSU in the SEC after losing to FSU so many times.
Officiating in the SEC - its worse in the ACC.
Exit fee - TJ makes a good point. You still owe the ACC exit fee. However, the ACC is asking for so much there is a real possibility that the court says the whole thing is unenforceable. That doesn't mean the court cuts it back to $30-60 but rather zero. The Merchant of Venice didn't pay a half pound of flesh or even a quarter pound, he paid zero.
I respect the heck out of you!!! You're a FSU fan 😅
LSU football fans have something in common with FSU fans…We hate the Florida Gators…Remember the shoe game
@@kogspinz4 Florida has fallen and can't get up ever since that game. Respect and love to all Gata haters🤣😂🤣
UNC football gets no tv viewers,
You are correct, unc is NOT fb school, fanbase, or legacy FB. And has lower fb tv numbers even under many in Acc.
Yet WHY DO ALL talking heads, even Acknowleding that FB moves needle, all spout out unc blindly as coveted by SeC??
Their fans won't travel either and they won't even travel to Charlotte for a bowl game. My Mountaineers played them this year in a bowl game and we smack them and we filled the stadium with Mountaineer fans by about 90% even ask the tar heels fans that were there they will also immediate it. UNC was only dilute the SEC or Big ten.
That’s exactly why Clemson is a better choice for expansion. If you get North Carolina, it’s purely for Basketball. But as we all know, Football is what brings in the money
@@davidframe1613 Congrats on your win, but nobody was enthusiastic to go to the game after how our season ended. Plus, Drake Maye opted out. Carolina fans aren't UGa football fans, but will show up for games that matter.
It depends on the games. UNC was 6th in the conference behind Duke, but Duke played Notre Dame. If a team is in a better conference, more people will watch them.
These people are just clueless. Charlotte is closer to Univ. of South Carolina and Clemson than it is to UNC. Both of those South Carolina Schools draw more viewers from Charlotte than UNC.
I don't think they do in Charlotte
Espn will want FSU, and Clemson. So SEC will get those 2
Not if Fox is willing to outbid ESPN.
don't think FSU is super eager to stay under $EC$PN's thumb. all things being equal, they'll probably welcome a fresh start
@@scarcheer7211 good luck. Espn backs out in 26. Espn will just shift pieces.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FSU is already and has been talking with the B1G for 3 years. In fact the FSU BOD only discuss joining the BTAA to drastically increase their real income which is RESEARCH MONEY. The SEC, IVY & ACC makes much less money than B1G schools average in research money.
@@redxraider0613 I could care less who goes where. I think if Fox and the B10 get aggressive, they have more clout with Academics, tv deal, and it gives them new states to plant their flag in.
ESPN and the SEC are only gaining teams from states they already operate in…
Noles should stay away from that filthy network and its backwoods trailer park conference. The damage ESPN has done to college football is immeasurable. B1G all the way - more prestige, affluence and a much more intriguing slate of away games!
No offense, but with no AAU status, FSU will NOT be invited into the Big Ten.
Thankfully, the admin at FSU are not the same type of socioeconomic bigot you seem to be.
Who gives a shit about AAU anymore , are too blind to see these are businesses not colleges anymore if your in the big 2 . The collegiate stuff is secondary
U can’t blame espn and not fox. They’re paying 70m and doing the same thing. Theo boy ones to blame are conference commissioners for ruining cfb they’re the ones that’s supposed to look out for cfb not espn
@@jeffreystrickland7067 Dud of a take, my friend. AAU membership is an irrelevant metric when it comes to the goldmine that college football is turning into. Besides, FSU ranks in the upper half of B1G schools academically and its viewership numbers dwarf all but OSU and Michigan (and possibly USC). Pure malfeasance for the conference to make it a precondition going forward.
If you can't put 70k plus in the stands every Saturday and pack 16k plus in a basketball arena you don't have any business in SEC. FSU and Clemson both have the pedigree. Big 10 can have the rest. Both fit perfectly in our league.
FSU can pack 70 K now as long as they are able to recruit the South Florida area effectively something they would lose to Florida and Miami and schools that play them. If FSU had no Miami on they schedule the school would lose much of its appeal to South Florida athletes.
Wtf going on? I listen to Blake just because he acts like he hates FSU now you want me to forget that Mike Novell and the transfer portal isn't sustainable in his words? Now I see the only reason why he hates FSU is because we beat LSU two years straight.
Sec wont take that dumpster fire in miami. Fsu unc clem id take tho
Add Oklahoma State in for an even four.
@@WeSRT4 I like your style
I agree with OKST and Kansas
@@WeSRT4 wouldn’t mind Ok State coming over eventually. We’ll see what happens.
UNC makes sense for sure but I could see a VT even to SEC if just 2 teams. If you want 2 to Big Ten FSU and Clemson make sense. If the Big Ten wants to go further you have to think at some point they look at 1 or 2 Texas teams. Even if you're talking about picking from TCU, Baylor, Tech, Houston - it is still just about getting a good foot in there to fight in the SEC and make sure the Big 12 stays way back in 3rd
He is crazy thinking UNCheat would be better than Clemson!!!!
Agree
Clemson SC as a town blows.
They’ll take a national brand UNC over Clemson all day long.
Clemson is going to the BIG 12
@@zachmorello6592 Football is the money maker in sports. How many National titles have y’all won?
In regards to ACC teams going independent. Sounds interesting but what is to stop the ACC from blocking teams from playing games against a team that defects.
B1G is the only conference with zero exit fee, because nobody would ever leave. FLEX
No. Lies. Told.
@@SPDinMS3 SEC exit fee starts at $30 million started in 2021.
@@SPDinMS3 Sports Illustrated reported that the SEC added an exit fee of $40,000,000 in 2021.
@@SPDinMS3 I don't know what the SEC is known for, but I do know they have an exit fee starting at $30 million and can exceed $40 million. I mean feel free to go verify on your own. The fact remains only the B1G does not have an exit fee.
I think for either conference , outside notre Dame, Florida state and UNC are top
Two choices
I don’t think you can just think about markets anymore. These TV deals are also looking at matchups. FSU/Miami add great matchups, which is one of the reasons the UVA thing doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me.
The only people talking about markets are fans of programs that don't have massive football brands ... A brand like FSU or Clemson football will be watched on a national level it doesn't matter how big their TV markets are because those teams can create primetime games any given week in any part of the country ... UNC and UVA don't have that
All this harmonizing between Sankey & Petitti is the biggest pick up here. That could signal FSU & UVA being headed to the B1G and Clemson, UNC, NC ST. & VT going to the SEC. Miami, Louisville, Pitt & Georgia Tech are probably the Big 12 takes. The rest are probably up the river like Oregon State & Washington State. Unless all this really gets wild and the P2 both go over 20 members. Who Knows?
Agreed but I think if they are coordinating realignment options. Anything is on the table. Here would be an out of the box that should be considered. BIG would take Mizzou from SEC and Kansas from B12….locking down KC and Stl markets. In return the BIG gets out of the way and FSU, Clemson, UNC and UVA all go to SEC.. both conferences get what they want and have equal amount of schools
They're going over 20. 24 is the magic number to get everybody what they want.
No chance. Missouri wanted the BIG before and BIG didn’t want them.
What ACC school had a team in both the men’s and women’s Final Four and just took the series from Clemson⚾️??
Rating, Rating! who is Fl. St. or NC? or Clamsaw?
It's silly to compare FSU and ND as independents. FSU ain't by a country mile ND. ESPN or anyone else isn't going to pay ND money to FSU to go independent.
He had to boot lick since he's on a fsu channel
Do your research on media value of FSU. I'm not agreeing independent is a good path, I'm just questioning you on the worth of FSU.
Lol had better ratings than them last season so guess again
FSU brings 70 to 80 million a year in TV revenue to the ACC ... Notre Dame may be worth more but their only getting paid I think less than 50M a year for their Football TV rights and FSU could get that same deal ... It's more about Notre Dame having a really bad deal than it is about FSU being worth as much as Notre Dame if you really understood college athletics you would know these things ... This is why FSU has sparked interest in the SEC and B1G they bring in more money than most of the programs in either conference and Notre Dame has ran itself into the ground under really bad leadership that refuses to evolve in the past 20 years
What is this April? It's so funny seeing SEC fans talking about FSU today vs. in December. I can smell the SEC fear of the problem FSU in the Big 10 would be.
As a B1G fan, I can tell you that FWIW, IMHO after landing ND, I almost don’t even care which teams are added to the conference if we don’t get UNC as well because there are so many good options that add value but likely won’t get full share for the balance of the existing contract.
I can make arguments in favor of adding any combination of Miami, GT, Duke, UVa, Stanford, Cal, Pitt, or even BC.
There is a version of this where once it becomes clear that ND would joining the B1G & UNC+NC St, Clemson, & FSU join the SEC, that the B1G commissioner tells these 8 remaining teams that he has 5 (or 3) more spots at whatever low ball number the B1G presidents are willing to offer and that the first schools to accept are in the B1G and good luck to everyone else…
As a fellow B1G alum and fan, it's really the Irish and every other team is for entertainment purposes.
@@williamgarry2635 seen several versions of Utah and Arizona St eventually going to the B1G. Fortunately all these versions aren’t worth squat. I can see ND and FSU being the two that the B1G would want to cap it at 20. We’ll see how it plays out.
No
Can you explain how the SEC would be able to block Miami or any school for that matter from joining the Big 10 short of making them an offer they couldn't refuse to join the SEC?
They referenced that fact that Tony Petiti and Greg Sankey have had at least 5 known meetings in the past 3 months. Chances are there are more than the 5 known meetings. Most are looking at this as possible deals in the works between the two. The reality of the matter is that we just don’t know.
SEC can’t block Miami but Inthink the SEC/BIG have a number cap in mind. Miami won’t be in the SEC and BIG probably has more important targets
It's not about being blocked it's about what programs add value to you're TV brand ... FSU is joining the B1G ... Does the SEC need another FL team does the B1G need two ... No so why would either add Miami also there will come a point where the B1G and SEC decide their done adding programs that number will likely be between 18 and 20 ... They could both very well fill up before Miami even becomes apart of the conversation
At some point the major conferences are going to make being in a conference a must to participate in the playoffs
Major conferences = SEC and B1G, only.
This guys crazy, Florida state & North Carolina's heading to the Big 10😅
FSU is not going anywhere Miami is not going!
FSU might be, but UNC ain't. The Heels either stay in the depleted ACC or go to the SEC.
@@petechau9616 FSU has no obligation to take Miami with them and after Miami signed off on the ACC lawsuit against FSU I doubt Miami is even a concern for the people running FSU ... All Miami needed to do was sit back and STFU and FSU would have likely asked the B1G to take Miami too but like always they just had to go out and do some dumb shit ... The B1G wants Notre Dame and FSU is another program they would love to have ... Miami is a logical third choice their a AAU school they rival both new expansion schools they play in a large market and have a decent brand identity if FSU and Notre Dame told the B1G they wanted Miami over UNC and or UVA the B1G would take Miami even if Miami only got a half share of the TV revenue ... But why would FSU risk asking a favor for Miami now after Miami went out of it's way to help the ACC sue FSU ... Miami will be in the BIG12 and it's entirely their fault
Uh, Miami doesnt have the education ranking for the Big. @petechau9616
@@TallyDynasty Doesn't matter the B10 can change that anytime they want-Money talks Bullshit walks! Oh by the way Miami's academic ranking is higher that FSUs. Don't believe the hype.
FSU and Miami did great as independent programs.
I think you guys way under value Virginia Tech as a brand.
But you get the Virginia’s as a package, right?
Compared to the other schools they listed as tier1, in terms of the big 2 sports, they valued them abt right
The more I think on it, the more I am leaning FSU to the SEC. ESPN holds the cards. All they have to do is say they will terminate the grant of rights if FSU joins the SEC.
You know that would have worked before "The Snub" but now? Feelings run strong at FSU. If they were to join the SEC it would have to be at a full share. Anything less is just another insult.
@@richardbrookins5406 "The Snub" is the perfect storyline to build FSU's Year 1 SEC title run off of.....its also the perfect smokescreen to trigger the controlled demolition of the ACC without anybody noticing.....gotta get money for those extra SEC games and FSU's (and the others) full & partial shares from somewhere.....
@@xfacta334 The narrative would be crazy.
You keep leaving Clemson off the ACC list. Is this deliberate?
I don’t see independence being viable in the future Networks are not going to want to work out contracts for 300 teams as the power concentrates more and more into the SEC and Big Ten to a lesser extent the Big 12 all the TV contracts are going to be through those conferences which then will form an entity that will create rules between the conferences. The only other option if they go away from conferences which I just can’t see would be one NFL stile league that has revenue sharing and salary caps which I just can’t see happening because of all the other things tied to collage football
Best Guess:
SEC - Expands to 20 - FSU/Clem/UNC/UV
B1G - Expands to 20 - Giving ND two options...Join now with Stanford -or- Miami is taking your seat
B12 - Expansd to 20 or 24 - Based on media partner's Pro-rata approvals
ACC - Rebuilds with WSU, OSU, Army, Navy, AF, CSU Tulane, SDSU, USF, Uconn
I'm telling ya, go independent like ND. You get to keep the profits from any bowl winnings, not to mention, control/negotiate any broadcast rights, Big 10, SEC , ABC, FOX, etc... Think like a podcast.
FSU and UNC are targets 1A and 1B, meaning either one could be the true top target. Clemson is solidly in 3rd. 4th is probably UVA or VT.
Why is it so difficult for sports fanatics to understand that FSU does not have a trusting relationship with ESPN? So now FSU should negotatiate an independent network deal with ESPN as a good idea. 😆😆😆😆😆😆
I think it's more like FSU fans don't have a trusting relationship with ESPN.
@@tedharris8244 FSU Boosters don’t trust ESPN. Were leaning SEC (which I have always vehemently opposed) before FSU got left out of the playoffs. Most fans are true “fanatics” and don’t consider academics. Large percentage probably still prefer SEC.
@@FSUMagnetic2024 Interesting because I'm a booster and I believe ESPN was snubbing the ACC and not FSU but that's my opinion.
Sec -Acc Espn is going to take care Sec
Two different entities
@@tedharris8244 actually it was the ratings that year. Alabama vs Texas produced higher ratings so ESPN snubbed FSU for Alabama. FSU’s ratings would have been higher if playing in the SEC. But that is no reason to leave an undefeated power conference team out of the playoffs. They also knew that was Saban’s last year. Scam.
Let me tell you a story of what happened to Florida State in the 80s. Florida State fans were sick and tired of losing to Miami and further complained that they had to play the Florida Gators making the schedule to tough. FSU decided that they were going to either drop Miami entirely or schedule them every now and then. FSU being a state funded school had to have the Florida Legislature approve-problem was that the Governor was a Miami grad and the Florida Legislature is predominately made up of South Florida representatives. Of course the South Florida Reps did not approve and further stated that if FSU goes ahead and drops UM they (The Legislature) would with hold state funds from the school. Result FSU dropped the matter entirely.
Sounds nice ... Until you realize Miami is a private school and none of what you just said makes any sense ... FSU isn't obligated to play Miami it's the same with UF vs Miami ... FSU and UF are required to play because their both public schools and UF originally didn't want to play FSU because they said they didn't think that game was worth playing at the time ... But the Miami games with FSU or UF aren't mandatory FSU just keeps playing them because their both in the ACC now and for a long time it was one of FSUs most profitable games
@@ddcs0s FSU plays Miami because they want to keep the South Florida pipeline to recruits open. Should FSU decide to drop Miami that would marginally Florida State in recruiting football players there. Outside of Miami its Florida who local players look to-FSU would be an after thought.
Think SEC adds 4 and B1G adds 2. B1G adds FSU and Miami for a solid Florida presence.
SEC adds Clemson, UNC, UVA, and whichever ends up being UNC’s +1 in Duke/NCSt.
If ESPN works with the teams, then I think SEC adds FSU, Clemson, UNC and then NCSt if they have to take both public NC teams, or UVA. Then B1G just holds until ND ready to join.
Yep independent is the call for 3 years pick your schedule
I want Georgia Tech back in the SEC
See you soon Notre Dame! I am inevitable.
Sincerely,
The Big Ten
Does this guy realize Clemson is right down the road from Charlotte? Clemson has a huge fanbase in Charlotte
LOL> Clemson and Columbia SC closer to Charlotte than Chapel Hill. On top of that Clemson in the fast growing Greenville/Spartanburg TV market which is like 36th in the country vs. Columbia SC which is 76th.
@@vistatiger7493 Clemson isn't trying to be a major city. They are land locked around three lakes and state parks.
@@timkinley1779 Huh? Where did I say Clemson is trying to be a major city? Thank God they aren't located in some crime ridden ugly area like some schools we know well. Clemson is growing however and is located in the one of the fastest growing areas in the country right now- the upstate of SC.
@@vistatiger7493 I wasn't disagreeing, I was adding to your comment. I'm in Upstate SC.
@@timkinley1779 👍
If a new ACC media contract is enacted then the buyout out deal is unenforcable and the grant of rights is voided. So $100+ million would not have to be paid in 2026. That's in the ACC Contract with the schools.
Maybe both north Carolina schools both UNC and North Carolina State
This isn’t a charity type of thing these conferences and TV net worth are not adding teams just to be adding them because you used to be good many yrs ago ain’t gonna cut it !
If I am FSU I hand pick 7 teams from the ACC. We vote to split the conference and we leave now for free.
That conference can absolutely raid the BIG12 for their top programs. You might even be able to get an TA&M that hates the Longhorns that much.
I see FSU founding the last conference in a P3
5 game ND deal. Yep
It might end up the best conference of the P3. There will be no Rutgers or Vandy
Clemson and Florida State to the SEC. No way Clemson or FSU leaves the ACC to go to BIG 12
FSU to the B1G with Notre Dame
UVA, UNC, Duke and Miami to SEC. Notre Dame and Stanford to B1G. Then realignment within the B1G and SEC, which becomes a single super-conference. Remaining ACC Teams go to Big 12, or remain in ACC that then expands, or they become independent.
Good points, but ACC doesn't have a team in Charlotte
Carolina women basketball has won one 10th as many Conference Championships as Duke has , what are talking about Carolina has done nothing in football since 1981 !
Speaking of the refereeing in the SEC I can promise you the ACC refs are much worse and any ACC fan will agree and not just FSU fans. I think most FSU fans feel that the ACC refereeing has it out for FSU and they do all they can to try and dictate games so we'll lose so at the end of the day us FSU fans will take the so called bad refereeing in the SEC over the ACC all day long cuz I can promise you that FSU is already used to that and I can also promise you that SEC refs are not worse than ACC guaranteed. ACC refs are the absolute worse refs there is so going to the SEC or the BIG 10 for that matter would be a huge step up for FSU especially since we'll be getting paid a whole lot more money in either one of those conferences so we would gladly take that. Getting rid of ACC refs would truly be a dream come true for us FSU fans. As we say it in the ACC when it comes to the refereeing ACC stands for (A)nother (C)rappy (C)all and that's the absolute bottom line! This would be a change we would gladly take if it means we're out of the ACC no matter what conference we're in just as long as it's not the BIG 12 which is highly unlikely! #GoNoles
So you both take $60 million per year as an independent rather than $100 million in the B1G. And give up the security of being in one of the two leagues that count. Why would the big 2 make it easier for independents to get into the playoffs? FSU could fight ND for that slot. The SEC will also be close to that $100 million or more, so UF will still be making $40 million per year more than FSU. Is that what you want?
In fact, why would the big 2 make it easy for another major independent to even exist? What if the B1G and SEC schools do not have room for FSU on their schedules? Would the leftover ACC schools welcome them? FSU might have a more than tough time setting schedules with anyone. With watered down schedules, how much is an independent FSU worth to a network?
Is Miami as a place really that important to either the SEC or B1G? Honestly, I think that your guest really is off the wall on many issues.
They won’t limit it to just two
ALL THE TEAMS IN THE EASTERN AAC THE OTHER TEAMS IN THE MWC
Where does the notion that ND makes that much more because of their NBC contract ? They make more than ANY ACC team, but compared to the B1G & SEC, the ACC make far less than the other 2 conferences. ND's NBC money still pales in comparison to the upcoming B1G & SEC $.
Too many moving parts. Too little structure, too poorly organized. The NCAA is as useless as an inert gas. ESPN is allowed to cannibalize conferences for market share. How are you going to fix it. Somebody needs to step up and make smaller more regional conferences that are more relevant locally. These ESPN generated monstrosity conferences do more harm than good. Good show
It started that way. It didn't work. Or at least not going to generate the best dividends for people. This is about what means more to people. Some schools want to be mid okay. Some want to push for greatness.
That’s not fair. Inert gases are VERY useful. Helium is a very important molecule…
The SEC schedule is a stop gap fellas. Changes are coming and it just makes better sense to flip the schedule as it is for 2025. Regardless, the schedule is great for the matchups being played with the additions of Texas and OU. Why switch it all up if there are soon to be more changes that would just jumble it all up again?! Let’s use our brains.
They aren't thinking that far ahead. Checkers players, these two
It’s not rocket science. FSU, Clemson, North Carolina, Miami, Notre Dame, on Big Ten’s list. But that could be off by a team or two depending upon what the SEC wants and invites.
As soon as heard FSU should go "independent", I clicked off.
Espn will not void the deal if FSU and Clem stays in the ACC.
Hope FSU goes to Big10... so much more intriguing games, FSU vs USC, FSU vs Ohio State...
Good luck with that
Yeah, and Rutgers, Maryland, Minnesota. Thrilling.
People in N.C know NCSU is SEC and UNC is a Big Ten school. But probably won't be separated.
UNC doesn’t want to take their student athletes across country. The current administration is more of an SEC lean. They’ll join the SEC if and when they leave the ACC. Personally, I wouldn’t mind adding UNC and NC State to the SEC eventually along with Clemson and one other school to be named later to stop at 20. It’s not like there are loads of choices for the SEC within their geographical footprint. We’ll see how it all plays out.
The SEC and B1G ain't fixing to add as many teams as some of y'all think ... Maybe 4 ACC programs find homes in the SEC and B1G and NCSU won't be one of them
Miami will not be SEC. SEC doesn’t take city colleges. Only flagship universities. SEC has already stated they view Florida as a 2 schools state.
Miami is not a good fit for the SEC geographically nor student wise.
UNC and UVA would not fit in academically with the SEC. Plus, both would have to bring NC State and Virginia Tech.
>Plus, both would have to bring NC State and Virginia Tech.
Which fit in academically with the SEC.
Terrible take. UNC isn’t even the best academic school if they join the SEC. Funny stuff.
UNC in Virginia or not football schools and I don't think either conference the Big ten or sec would take them because that will dilute the conference with football.
This is such a dumb stereotype. SEC is 5 AAU schools and 2 others in the top 20 of public academic institutions. It’s on par with BIG. AAU is just a money grab for research $&
@@jansonroberts2616they wouldn’t be in the top 3 (Vandy, UF, Texas)
Florida State used to be an Independent. There was a reason they joined a conference. Also, I understand the schools in the ACC are looking for an exit plan.
True Notre Dame is making money hand over fist, but the reason is they are Notre Dame... period. The big networks fight for their season coverage, not because they're independent, but because of their brand.
They have alums all over the world.
Some teams could be independent I agree if you can get the other teams to play you is the question. I know my Mountaineers we have really good TV ratings when we play pitt Penn State Oklahoma and UNC but when we play the average Big 12 team are ratings are way down if we could schedule big names every week we would have two to three million views per game. But can you get the other teams in the SEC and Big ten to agree to play you probably not. ESPN and fox would probably throw a fit.
So personally if I'm the SEC I want FSU and Clemson for me it boils down to football has always and will always be the sport that pays the bills and in the ACC there are two programs that have a combined 5 football championships in the past 30ish years ... I think there's a misconception about NCAA basketball yes basketball is the second most profitable NCAA sport however it's not like the revenue gap is small football brings in so much more money than even basketball that if a program can't field at least a decent football program their not worth adding to you're conference and UNC doesn't have a great football program ... I do think UNC will find a home in the SEC or B1G but it will be after the smoke settles with FSU and Clemson leaving the ACC first ... I could see the B1G taking UNC and UVA if the SEC gets FSU and Clemson or I could see the SEC panic buying UNC and UVA after taking Clemson if the B1G gets FSU ... But UNC won't be a first choice
Here is how I see it panning out. Of course, this is a wild guess.
SEC gets: Clemson, Duke, UNC, Georgia Tech, NC State
Big 12 gets: Florida State, Miami, SMU, Louisville, Wake Forest
Big "Ten" gets: Cal, Stanford, Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College, Virginia, Virginia Tech
Notre Dame goes back to full independence
The SEC and B1G add 2 programs each at most ... And FSU will go to the B1G or SEC their by far the most valuable brand in the ACCs collapse unless you count Notre Dame who really isn't apart of this they could leave tomorrow their not in the ACC in football ... Cal Stanford and SMU are all screwed nobody wanted them a year ago and nobody wants them now ... Duke GT Wake Pitt Cuse and BC will be lucky to get BIG12 invites the SEC and B1G won't touch them NCSU Louisville and Miami are going to the BIG12 ... Realistically
SEC FSU and Clemson
B1G UVA and UNC
BIG12 Miami Louisville NCSU and VT
Everyone else is screwed
WOW …. “A Peek inside Florida Gators dropped a video titled SEC insider drops BOMBSHELL on Gators rival in ACC” … Stating that FSU & Clemson doesn’t bring enough value to the SEC or B1G & predicts both will end up in the Big XII … Check out the video
If FSU was going to the SEC ESPN would be treated them a lot better. Who are they treating better? MIami and UNC. Clemson is interesting.
UNC and FSU are BIG 10 bound
UNC will join the SEC if and when they leave the ACC.
@@jansonroberts2616 Agreed. I believe it will be Clemson and UNC to the SEC. FSU and Miami to the Big 10. (similar to the USC/UCLA rival move to the B1G)
@@vistatiger7493 I’ve seen a few podcasts like PATC that have even reported that UNC and Clemson have a working relationship going forward but trying to find actual reports on that other than you tube podcasts haven’t been successful. From what I am hearing, neither Clemson nor UNC are particularly interested in taking their student athletes across country with that amount of travel and time zones. It just makes better sense to stay home.
Since the espn has contracts with both SEC andACC, ESPN WILL WANT THEIR PICK OF THE ACC.
Clemson needs no introduction! If the SEC lets Clemson and FSU go to the B1G they are fools! Either way, they are gone. 🙌🍻🐾🐾
FSU, UNC, Clemson, and UVA to the SEC is my wishlist
You lost me at the B10 and SEC may want Miami because Dana White moved UFC fights there…..
But gained you back when he said the SEC wants Duke!
Clemson makes more sense then UNC or Duke.. Clemson mens soccer is #1, girls softball top 10, baseball #2. Football speaks for itself. Football pays$. Basketball 🤷♂️ who cares.
UNC has a better all around sports programs than Clemson. UNC has brand
As a casual fan of college football without a lot of inside detail knowledge, the spirit of the whole thing is long lost. It's just an exploit to grab a lot of money like any other business. College football no longer resembles the character of commitment or dedication it used to represent.
Charlotte? UNC is not close to Charlotte. UNC is close to Raleigh. Geography much? Jeez.
Ridiculous take. Chapel Hill is only two hours from Charlotte. Being closer to Raleigh is irrelevant
Death Valley is in Clemson.
Most FSU fans, especially FSU fans that grew up in Florida, want the SEC. There's a vocal minority on RUclips that say they want the B1G and some that are in their feelings over ESPN, but get real. FSU is a perfect fit for the SEC and always has been.
Ole Miss fan here… where does that 120 mil go when the ACC dissolves? Who gets it?
Distributed to ACC member schools
@@seanrockett3741 so you are saying if FSU and Clemson leave this year and pay 120 mil each and soon after the ACC dissolves the other schools get it? Even if it’s months later?
BIG requires AAU. Clemson and FSU do not have AAU, Miami, UNC, UVA do.
No it doesn’t. This was refuted last summer
The big ten does not require aau membership. They like for schools to have it. But it’s not a requirement.
Why would ESPN void the deal in 2026? They can keep that lowball contract til 2036
Easy. People aren't tuning in to watch a sorry product. There is only one team in the ACC that consistently matters And doesn't Notre Dame's football TV deal up for review around that time?
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You know unc isn’t in charlotte right - at least not the campus you are talking about
I agree with your FSU and UNC assessment. The B1G will then likely invite Miami and UVA. They meet the AAU requirement. The Big 12 would be fortunate to have Clemson; then add three more teams like Louisville, VT, and NC State.
Clemson is going to the SEC if they get out of their ACC contract. Nonsensical to go to the Big 12 if they get their freedom. Makes more sense to stay put in the ACC than to go to the B12.
Clemson does not sue to get out to go to the Big 12. That’s one glorified G5 for another.
AAU requirements lmao you’re not the freaking IVY league. Not very difficult to into Ohio State
@@allamerican7351 Research has no relationship to undergraduate admissions. There are a lot of schools that are impossible to get into that have ZERO research and vice versa. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_American_Universities
Stony Brook and University of Buffalo are two examples of AAU that aren't undergraduate powerhouses.
Swarthmore and Bowdoin are very difficult to get into undergrad, however their research is non-existent.
That being said the best undergraduate universities are also AAU CalTech, MIT, the ivies, Northwestern, Duke, Stanford, etc.
ESPN will never void the contract in 2026. They put a lot of money into creating the ACC Network.
Also what motivation would they even have anyway? They have Clemson and FSU at bottom dollar right now, still pulling in the 7th and 22nd most eyeballs on TV. FSU-LSU was the most watched regular season game involving an SEC team (the other regular season match-ups above that game were 3 B1G games all involving Ohio State, and two Colorado games). This is 100% going to play out in courts, and ESPN will not be stepping up to void that contract.
And it's a failure. The whole conference is a failure. ABC/Disney want to spend that money elsewhere on things that make money.
@@jpDragna Having them at "bottom dollar" doesn't negate the issue of having 7+ other members that are well overpaid. That's why they're going to do it. It's too much wasted money on the books.
I’d take UNC and Duke
Screw the suc conference and there youtubers!
Saw the LSU stuff behind him so you automatically know he’s not the brightest, especially if he went there. UNC? Dude lives in his own world. No SEC expert has even mentioned or thinks UNC in the SEC. Dudes a clown.
how about the school that had both mens and womens bball teams in the final 4 and is one of only five football teams in the Power 5 that has won eight or more games in each of the past four seasons? forgot about them huh?
All aboard the BIG 10 train. No reason to give any more revenue to ESPN who has clearly spent a decade or more of their time and efforts trying to make us a second class team. Most of us will never forgive or forget the only unbeaten team left out of the playoffs. We are better than that and deserve a conference that is going to treat us right. Big 10 here we come. Soooo long ESPN.
Fear the Spear!!!
Oh and LSU has been treated like the kid in the back seat as well by ESPN while propping up Alabama and Georgia. I would not be happy if I was an LSU fan.
The UNC BOG will not allow UNC to go anywhere without NC State.
You are just making that up. The BOG has always done what is best for UNC.
Untrue
Uva Virginia tech has Washington DC market the big them
Uva and Virginia tech has the Washington DC TV market the big ten wants them
Pick em!
FSU + 7 ACC schools
Who does your new conference chase?
I was just watching a Josh Pate segment on Miami and from what I could glean from it, there are a ton of sidewalk fans of Miami's that donate to the university for mere branding to be adjacent to the series leader that would happily trade in the orange and green for garnet and gold if FSU lead the overall series.
😂😂😂😂 ridiculous
Lmao you fsu fans are hilariously delusional
Clemson is an SEC school.
Why all of the Big 12 bashing?
That must have gone over my head, and I don't feel like watching again