There are few other minor nerfs to frames - 2.4 - Went from +8f to +4f on hit. b+3+4 3,1 - went from natural to counter hit string (should have been like this from start) b+3+4 f(tiger stance) 4 - Knock down low went from -12 to -13 Overall she's been hit pretty hard with Nerfs.
@@Ajaylix oki short for okizeme is basically when the opponent is on the ground and the mind games about hitting them on the ground or when they try to get up.
i feel like a clown having so much of my main's damage nerfed when akuma and geese are out there doing 100 - 0 hp combos with only 1 wall splat. I guess harada has been losing to some lidia player or something
@@mauricedouglas904 I'm Tekken god prime with her.. Lidia imo is one of the weakest mid tiers which is enough to be good with her... She's definitely better than fahkumram for example
@@KazuyaKai1012 would you be interested in a pupil? I’m trying to get better with her. I could use the pointers. I play EST time , almost every afternoon from 5pm to about 9, then, Friday-Sunday I’m free basically anytime. Do you have videos up that I can watch ? Maybe an hours worth or something ?
I played Lidia a lot. Imo it's a great change. She was intended to go for a 3,2 after a side step in the first place as advertised in the first gameplay trailer of her. However ss4 is so easy to execute that the player never goes for ss 3,2 even though the move gives better damage. Now I have to choose between an easy and consistent option and a harder one that gives a much bigger reward. If you don't like it just play another character. Lidia was for scrubs. Now the character is starting to get some substance to her gameplay.
@@Mr440c lol 3,2 is a "harder" option? And you have the audacity to tell us that Lidia player are scrubs? 3,2 is easy to execute and land but ss4 was a fun launcher to use and imo gives her a nice identity(also wasnt an OP move).btw I don't need advice on which character to play from someone who thinks 3,2 is a "harder" option. And because 3,2 was advertised in the trailer then the change to ss4 was warranted? Lmao what kind of reasoning is that? Nice joke i laughed bruh
Thanks for these. As someone who plays Tekken 7 super sporadically this year, the info that I get on characters who I've never played or really labbed is much appreciated lol.
I'm just gonna miss the sidestep kick launcher I loved connecting that one, her attack sound and the i got counter hit animation looked and felt crazy,
@@LesserCheshire Not every move, though. Lidia's stances are interruptible, so if she manages to get into her stance, she should deserve to have some safe options and track some of her moves.
The clean hit on red tape is not d only nerf for that move. On knockdown she used to be -10 now shes -12 or -13 i think on hit.. no room for any sort of oki or setup
Basically all of those changes is acceptable, but imo the Hellsweep reach nerf anf her ff1+2 clean hit removal should not have happened imo, she don't had any good low but this one, now with that nerf it's pretty bad and her ff1+2 are dealing kinda little damage for a pretty punishable move.
They should gut Feng and Zafina like they did other dlc's.......as for akuma at this point I think they have some sort of legal obligation to keep him as a God of tekken, so no hope here
@The Science of Violence That i16 +4 on-hit-with-forced-crouching ch-knockdown high-crushing tracking-both-side low is NOT fine at all WHEN he has bunches of tools to force my respect up close in neutral. That one deserve at least zero on hit and tracking removed. It's ultimate braindead.
@@lightingthief4482 Nah nah, it’s a shame that a few top tiers like Akuma dodged the nerfs, but this patch is definitely a good one overall with the other top tier nerfs
@@IAMOP Not talking about the sweep. There is ff1+2(damage nerf), f4,3,4(more recover on whiff and block on the last hit), WS1,4(now -13). Those moves also got nerfed. Edit: Oh, and SW 1,3 not being a natural combo anymore
I’m jealous of the amount of people that understand tekken to at least a decent level and can understand why things need to change. I feel like most sf5 players have no idea what they are talking about in comparison
They nerfed her so bad, yet left Leo doing all those physically impossible combos, and wall to wall carries, this is more like an imbalance patch lmao.
@@a3lorenzo well, she's worth using now and takes more skill to play, when before she was an easier way to possibly win. Ironically she's the new Bob, cause they nerfed the life out of him to a point I believe he's B tier. Now lidia is before the patch Bob, which is still mid A tier. And if she still has her range, she high A tier. I literally won't ever use Bob again, because he literally has no advantages on block or on hit. Has the same trash range, but they slightly buff his jab tracking, which doesn't help, since his fastest mid move after plus is b2. It tracks only a little bit, but if y out side walk it to his right side, you get to his back with literally any character. Just be glad you aren't a Bob main. Luckily I main law, who is thankfully buffed. And I have 5 other characters that are slightly on par with my mains. So I'm good, a bit.
Injustice 2 style or MK11 style intros. Reina: "Fan of my dad's, are you not?". Lidia: "You being his daughter won't stop me.". Reina: "Then, prove it.". Lidia: "Your father could have survived to be brought to justice.". Reina: "That was all on Kazuya. You can find and get him, then, not me.". Lidia: "It sounds like you still defended Heihachi, but not for long.".
Cool, i don't fckng care about how they nerf Lidia, i am gonna keep playing for Lidia and doesn't matter she is to strong or weak. Nerf King / Kunimitsu / Eddy / Lei, no ? I see.
She got nerfed too much imo it doesn’t make sense that f2 4 doesn’t wallsplat even at the wall the animation feels weird its like the wall is lava and the character tries to avoid it at all cost, its too forced
I feel you man this patch just made me drop her completely she was my main smh. the only thing I think that needed to be was her back 3 that was hella spammable and hard to punish most of the time. Imo she’s not even top tier she’s mid top tier to me
@@johnsalchichon3605 yeah she’s not even playable to me anymore because of the unnecessary nerfs she’s not even insane compared to Leroy or Fahk. They definitely made her into a character that cant let the opponent mash but that’s gone now
As a Lidia main think the most impactful change for me was her unblockable wall splat and sidestep counter/launcher hit 4 other then that I think she still broken AF but I’m really sad about her side step launcher would use that into sweep mix up.
How os she still broken af woth those changes? Damage nerf. Clean hit. Less pushback. More punishable. Please explain I didn't play her much because everyone says she is broken. And I wounder what release fahk is. Ffs Peace
@@maddinkn her 50/50 game is still strong during cat stance and her ff2 still has a lot of pressure to catch them off guard when CH. Almost forgot she has a magic 4 still. They could of removed her magic 4 like other characters “cough cough” fakurham. Really gonna miss the sidestep launcher but I can live with that seeing what they did to other characters they nerfed them to sht 😭
Fuck this game.. Literally just learned Lidia and now she's got none of the same combos I used anymore. 😂😂 WHY HARADA!! Back to good ole Zafina. 🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️👍
Thank god they nerf her. People have been whinning about Akuma/Geese/Fahk for a long time and completely forgot that Lidia has the highest winrate by a landslide.
Actually last I checked Gigas had the highest win rate. Before that was ganryu for a time I believe but Gigas has had the highest percentage for the majority of the game's life cycle. Which was there reasoning of nerfing him in s2 which was some bs
i don't understand these types of nerf decisions. Yes, she needed some nerfs but they killed everything fun and unique about her gameplay, now her gameplay really has no concept at all, don't know how you're supposed to play her now
It was fine the nerf for her hellsweep and political storm but dude, the patch was mostly about lidia and fakhumram nerfs, and akuma or devil jin? Fine thanks, what was the point of they werent touched in the last patch? Marking their supremacy? Im glad some middle tiers got buffs since i main a lot of them but honestly that wont change much if la creme de la creme is still up there moking us for not being touched other to add the new mechanic
You guys do know the developers make DLC too OP on release and then after some time they nerf the characters to what it was intended to be just to make it feel like an "update" even tho barely any new content was given. Stop being played into the system
I play Lidia and honestly it's not all bad, yes the nerfs hit her solid but she's not gonna be bad due to these nerfs. They nerfed her stupid side, her more execution heavy stuff is still there, her neutral tools are still super good, some combos took a minor damage hit. The only thing I'm mad about it ss4
Jin's WS3 has the new mechanic now, so it got nerfed because It's not as + as before, the pushback increased, which is bad and It's no longer a counter hit launcher
Jin got no real proper nerfs, which is unbelievable. He is undoubtedly the best mishima now. Devil Jin got hit very hard but still good regardless... Kazuya and Hei are same really, they've never been as good as Jin anyway.
@@DreadPyke Well I never cosidered Jin to be a mishima. Jin may be good in general, but there are a lot of characters who outshine him. And now there is gonna be even less Jins at tournaments. A lot of Jin mains already stopped playing because of Season 3 nerfs. If there is gonna be more of that, as you suggest, then Jin mains are going to dissapear for good.
@@BlueGangsta_MX Jin is only going to be more prominent now though. This nerf isn't a core jin move, Jin still has magic 4 as his go-to homing. Think about it, all the top characters that the world's top Jins used to struggle againnst are now MUCH weaker. Devilster said he always struggled against Pakistani Geese lockdown, now that's alot less oppressive. Similarly Book no longer has to worry about Fahk/Geese either, his main kryptonites. You have to look at the bigger picture here. Jin came out relatively unscathed in a patch that gutted alot of top tiers (except f*cking akuma). Similarly Steve and Bryan got through relatively unscathed too.
There are few other minor nerfs to frames -
2.4 - Went from +8f to +4f on hit.
b+3+4 3,1 - went from natural to counter hit string (should have been like this from start)
b+3+4 f(tiger stance) 4 - Knock down low went from -12 to -13
Overall she's been hit pretty hard with Nerfs.
That clean hit nerf on the hellsweep really needed to happen, glad she can't just get that oki whenever she wants now
What's an oki
@@Ajaylix oki short for okizeme is basically when the opponent is on the ground and the mind games about hitting them on the ground or when they try to get up.
@@SuperemeRed So it's a guessing game?
@@Ajaylix yes
@@maskidle All competitive games are.
I love how Lidia gets nerfed like crazy but zafina and akuma remain braindead
i feel like a clown having so much of my main's damage nerfed when akuma and geese are out there doing 100 - 0 hp combos with only 1 wall splat. I guess harada has been losing to some lidia player or something
@@digaum1657 Geese is still top tier but akuma i wish the delete him
IKR makes no sense
being a Lidia player I think some nerfs were fair and necessary, but on the other hand nerfing SS4 was bad 😑
Yea, that was a cool looking move
I’m actually looking to learn lidia, is she still viable in higher ranks? Anyway we can link up and teach me some things ?
@@mauricedouglas904 honestly she's pretty trash and some matchups are really hell (I play lidia around purple/blue depending on the day)
@@mauricedouglas904 I'm Tekken god prime with her..
Lidia imo is one of the weakest mid tiers which is enough to be good with her...
She's definitely better than fahkumram for example
@@KazuyaKai1012 would you be interested in a pupil? I’m trying to get better with her. I could use the pointers.
I play EST time , almost every afternoon from 5pm to about 9, then, Friday-Sunday I’m free basically anytime. Do you have videos up that I can watch ? Maybe an hours worth or something ?
I cheesed so many people with that low sweep into f,F+3. Amazed it lasted as long as it did.
Honestly gonna miss it was one of my favorite set ups LOL
Lidia is a cheese factory already, getting to guess after 1,2,2 is bullshit
It's fine to nerf Lidia. But i think getting rid of the SS4 launcher is a bit overkill
Fr, it was so situational to begin with,
They ruined a perfectly good move for no reason.
@@JunKazamaFan I completely agree with you there was no need to nerf this move up to this point
I played Lidia a lot. Imo it's a great change. She was intended to go for a 3,2 after a side step in the first place as advertised in the first gameplay trailer of her. However ss4 is so easy to execute that the player never goes for ss 3,2 even though the move gives better damage. Now I have to choose between an easy and consistent option and a harder one that gives a much bigger reward. If you don't like it just play another character. Lidia was for scrubs. Now the character is starting to get some substance to her gameplay.
@@Mr440c lol 3,2 is a "harder" option? And you have the audacity to tell us that Lidia player are scrubs? 3,2 is easy to execute and land but ss4 was a fun launcher to use and imo gives her a nice identity(also wasnt an OP move).btw I don't need advice on which character to play from someone who thinks 3,2 is a "harder" option. And because 3,2 was advertised in the trailer then the change to ss4 was warranted? Lmao what kind of reasoning is that? Nice joke i laughed bruh
Much thanks on the speed of these uploads. Next quick play sesh, I'll be much more updated with punishes and evasions.
Thanks for these. As someone who plays Tekken 7 super sporadically this year, the info that I get on characters who I've never played or really labbed is much appreciated lol.
The DLC bucks couldn't keep the lights on anymore so they took their powers away.
Some of that warranted, but this excessive. Lidia just keeps paying for Leroy and Fahk's crimes.
that ss4 nerf was so fucking bad
That F2,4 nerf hurts my soul man
She can't get standing wall splat anymore right?
@@IAMOP Not at the wall after her blue spark.
She still gets political storm which is a wall stagger move, so it's quite good still.
I'm just gonna miss the sidestep kick launcher I loved connecting that one, her attack sound and the i got counter hit animation looked and felt crazy,
True. It's so fun to use right. Also not overpowered so not sure what the big deal was
Wow. Lidia was a lot more stupid than I realized.
The sweep nerf after df2 stance is a big one damn
im really liking those clean hit requirements. gives more meaning in her being a close range fighter
But they didn't nerfed fookin akoma, thanks bamko
some of the stance chances feel unnecessary. You already guessed wrong by letting her get to that stance, so the risk reward should be very high.
You should be able to sidestep in tekken.
@@LesserCheshire Not every move, though. Lidia's stances are interruptible, so if she manages to get into her stance, she should deserve to have some safe options and track some of her moves.
@@scorpioigor I think you should be able to SS a safe mid normal hit launcher lol.
I love this changes expect for the 12f punisher. Now it feels so weird omg.
The clean hit on red tape is not d only nerf for that move. On knockdown she used to be -10 now shes -12 or -13 i think on hit.. no room for any sort of oki or setup
Seems like this patch was an excuse to nerf lidia lol
It nerfed everyone except for LC!
idk man Mr.fkyourmom got hit pretty hard too lol
Bro check patch notes fahkrumam leory both are dead mow
It nerfed everyone tho
@@user-sm6gn3nl6o Did Lee get nerfed?
WELL! That's quite severe. I hope it's not too overboard and she's still pretty good and as fun to play as she was before.
Fun maybe, but a little effort is required
Basically all of those changes is acceptable, but imo the Hellsweep reach nerf anf her ff1+2 clean hit removal should not have happened imo, she don't had any good low but this one, now with that nerf it's pretty bad and her ff1+2 are dealing kinda little damage for a pretty punishable move.
So I can play her now without getting trash talked?
Naice!
No. You can’t.
Incredible patch, it's a shame Akuma and Feng got through with hardly a scratch. Here's hoping they hotfix them.
Incredibly stupid really, besides Akuma(how tf he slipped through again....) Overall bad patch
They should gut Feng and Zafina like they did other dlc's.......as for akuma at this point I think they have some sort of legal obligation to keep him as a God of tekken, so no hope here
@The Science of Violence That i16 +4 on-hit-with-forced-crouching ch-knockdown high-crushing tracking-both-side low is NOT fine at all WHEN he has bunches of tools to force my respect up close in neutral. That one deserve at least zero on hit and tracking removed. It's ultimate braindead.
@@lightingthief4482 Nah nah, it’s a shame that a few top tiers like Akuma dodged the nerfs, but this patch is definitely a good one overall with the other top tier nerfs
God Feng is infuriatingly op and they still didn't do a thing. It's a pity.
BGM is "Saxophone Under The Moon - KOF XIV"
you chose the perfect music for this
What's the track?
@@ima4248 Saxophone Under The Moon - KOF XIV
Goddamn it why did they nerf best girl Lidia???
Just like Lab Coat 21 she didn't need to get nerfed.
There's actually way more nerfs than this.
The sweep part is mentioned multi times in the patch notes.
@@IAMOP Not talking about the sweep. There is ff1+2(damage nerf), f4,3,4(more recover on whiff and block on the last hit), WS1,4(now -13). Those moves also got nerfed.
Edit: Oh, and SW 1,3 not being a natural combo anymore
I think her wall carry also decreased
Yep
Look how they massacred my girl
Tekken has completely changed I remember juggling was apart of the game now they are changing entire movesets oh well man
I’m jealous of the amount of people that understand tekken to at least a decent level and can understand why things need to change. I feel like most sf5 players have no idea what they are talking about in comparison
They nerfed her so bad, yet left Leo doing all those physically impossible combos, and wall to wall carries, this is more like an imbalance patch lmao.
Nobody uses Leo, so she's buffed now. Leo only issue was speed, Now she's faster, amd had better recovery. She's definitely top 15 now.
@@dontfall2476 guess I'll have to just wait for Tekken 8, they ruined my main
@@a3lorenzo well, she's worth using now and takes more skill to play, when before she was an easier way to possibly win.
Ironically she's the new Bob, cause they nerfed the life out of him to a point I believe he's B tier. Now lidia is before the patch Bob, which is still mid A tier. And if she still has her range, she high A tier.
I literally won't ever use Bob again, because he literally has no advantages on block or on hit. Has the same trash range, but they slightly buff his jab tracking, which doesn't help, since his fastest mid move after plus is b2. It tracks only a little bit, but if y out side walk it to his right side, you get to his back with literally any character.
Just be glad you aren't a Bob main. Luckily I main law, who is thankfully buffed. And I have 5 other characters that are slightly on par with my mains. So I'm good, a bit.
1:58 also had a distance nerf on guard so the opponents further away
Thank you, appreciate it!
Do you feel that's quote unquote enough?
So...did they make it better or screw it up??
and akuma gets ignored from getting nerfed. so bloody stupid
Injustice 2 style or MK11 style intros.
Reina: "Fan of my dad's, are you not?". Lidia: "You being his daughter won't stop me.". Reina: "Then, prove it.".
Lidia: "Your father could have survived to be brought to justice.". Reina: "That was all on Kazuya. You can find and get him, then, not me.". Lidia: "It sounds like you still defended Heihachi, but not for long.".
Damn she got hit hard.
Cool, i don't fckng care about how they nerf Lidia, i am gonna keep playing for Lidia and doesn't matter she is to strong or weak. Nerf King / Kunimitsu / Eddy / Lei, no ? I see.
Nerfing Eddy out of all the characters? I don't even main him and that dude's in the dumpster.
i hope lidia's coming back to tekken 8
she's going to support financial the team jin to take down Gcorp
This is long overdue...she ran with the wins...now she's clapped
She got nerfed too much imo it doesn’t make sense that f2 4 doesn’t wallsplat even at the wall the animation feels weird its like the wall is lava and the character tries to avoid it at all cost, its too forced
I feel you man this patch just made me drop her completely she was my main smh. the only thing I think that needed to be was her back 3 that was hella spammable and hard to punish most of the time. Imo she’s not even top tier she’s mid top tier to me
@@wolfs_dahye1002 yeah that and political storm, but they kept nerfing her to the ground pretty much
@@johnsalchichon3605 yeah she’s not even playable to me anymore because of the unnecessary nerfs she’s not even insane compared to Leroy or Fahk. They definitely made her into a character that cant let the opponent mash but that’s gone now
I just bought her today, shes pretty good
The music suits the video because I'm very happy about these nerfs 🤣
Those nerfs change her to what she should have been. Might have slightly overcompensated here. We’ll have to see.
the ss4 nerf was too much, even the new animation doesn't fit the move
Yeah. Bandai Namco did Lidia dirty with the nerfs (some were unnecessary). I still think she's pretty good overall.
Lidia Sobieska lost her mid terms
I mean frames
Tekken balancing team is a room full of apes, istg.
I feel like this game is a nightmare to balance, compared to 2d fighters.
damn they nerfed my white girlfriend i cannot believe this...
As a Lidia main think the most impactful change for me was her unblockable wall splat and sidestep counter/launcher hit 4 other then that I think she still broken AF but I’m really sad about her side step launcher would use that into sweep mix up.
How os she still broken af woth those changes? Damage nerf. Clean hit. Less pushback. More punishable.
Please explain
I didn't play her much because everyone says she is broken. And I wounder what release fahk is. Ffs
Peace
@@maddinkn her 50/50 game is still strong during cat stance and her ff2 still has a lot of pressure to catch them off guard when CH. Almost forgot she has a magic 4 still. They could of removed her magic 4 like other characters “cough cough” fakurham. Really gonna miss the sidestep launcher but I can live with that seeing what they did to other characters they nerfed them to sht 😭
I want to main lidia. Mind giving some tips or such?
@@mauricedouglas904 The "Lidia in a nutsell" video is pretty good
@@maximoxiii1511 but it’s outdated. The fact that it’s a “nutshell” video and over an hour long says a lot lol. Good video but dated
Good riddance DLC meta, you wont be missed.
Just imagine the dlc fan fanboy's rage about this! XD
They basically removed her from the game
Fuck this game.. Literally just learned Lidia and now she's got none of the same combos I used anymore. 😂😂 WHY HARADA!! Back to good ole Zafina. 🏃♂️🏃♂️🏃♂️👍
Disaster dead is this for water temperature test of TEKKEN 8??
Thank god they nerf her. People have been whinning about Akuma/Geese/Fahk for a long time and completely forgot that Lidia has the highest winrate by a landslide.
Actually last I checked Gigas had the highest win rate. Before that was ganryu for a time I believe but Gigas has had the highest percentage for the majority of the game's life cycle. Which was there reasoning of nerfing him in s2 which was some bs
And now there is akuma, Feng, zafina.. so what's the difference?
i don't understand these types of nerf decisions. Yes, she needed some nerfs but they killed everything fun and unique about her gameplay, now her gameplay really has no concept at all, don't know how you're supposed to play her now
i play at a really low level but these are some very nice and noticeable changes. sweet.
Welp, on the bright sight people can stop using "she´s broken" as an excuse why they always lose against her
green rank reddit crybabies will not punish political storm nonetheless, it will be the same for them lol
good bye~ Lidia~~
It was fine the nerf for her hellsweep and political storm but dude, the patch was mostly about lidia and fakhumram nerfs, and akuma or devil jin? Fine thanks, what was the point of they werent touched in the last patch? Marking their supremacy? Im glad some middle tiers got buffs since i main a lot of them but honestly that wont change much if la creme de la creme is still up there moking us for not being touched other to add the new mechanic
Have you not seen the Devil jin nerfs? lmao
@@IAMOP i did, and it was a really fair nerf, that unscaled wall combo was unfair since they gave him b2 to hells gate
1.72 also has no clean hit so I'd say after 1.71
Now if only instead of throwing away all this trimmed fat they'd give it to Lars... :(
they way they killed her in this patch, she was way overkilled
:') i don't mind the hell sweep range nerf and p.storm frame... but the rest is just... 🥲🥲🥲🥲
Thank god. I hated fighting this chick
thats a lot of nerf
They absolutely butchered her . Totally excessive nerfs .
They killed Lidia, but it was needed. I don't know if she's more balanced now or they literally killed her
It's not that bad. She just needs to be played fundamentally like most other characters. No more super cheese winning relying on crazy toolset.
what is the song in this video??
Harshest nerfs ive seen in a while. Meanwhile Zafina got away -.-
I don't play tekken but i watched it at evo, why were there so few lidia players?
Love her but she was 2 stressful for me 2learn
What is the clean hit of Paul's d4?
any tutorial how to do that custom pose like on your thumbnail
Now just need to buff gigas
They just did
@@Leadblast 🥳🥳🥳🥳
It's to much, damn...
Good
Bro ita huge nerf for lidia 😢😭
what's this background music title?
Saxophone Under The Moon - KOF XIV
@@ElwindMage cool another to add to the playlist. Thanks!
I don't even play tekken that much, youtube just randomly recommended this and God damm even I feel that nerft (was she busted?)
She wasnt that busted
She was just a scrub killer cause people don't know how to block or know the mu
Look how they murdered my baby😭
Did this poor girl get any buffs
Damn, she and Fahk got nerfed pretty hard.
Ss4 was weird, but all other nerfs were well deserved.
They gutted this character, so sad
Damn, was gonna pick her up too. Oh well...
I'm still gonna pick her lol
You guys do know the developers make DLC too OP on release and then after some time they nerf the characters to what it was intended to be just to make it feel like an "update" even tho barely any new content was given. Stop being played into the system
I play Lidia and honestly it's not all bad, yes the nerfs hit her solid but she's not gonna be bad due to these nerfs. They nerfed her stupid side, her more execution heavy stuff is still there, her neutral tools are still super good, some combos took a minor damage hit. The only thing I'm mad about it ss4
Lidia is trash now worse than Shaheen
What is the ost being used?
Saxaphone under the moon
Too bad they didn't nerf her loud screaming
T.T is she still viable? Woman didn’t deserve this
Is negan nerfed
really liking this patch so far. lots of nerfs to the top tiers
What the song in this video?
Saxophone under the moon.
Did jin recieve anything?
Jin's WS3 has the new mechanic now, so it got nerfed because It's not as + as before, the pushback increased, which is bad and It's no longer a counter hit launcher
Jin got no real proper nerfs, which is unbelievable. He is undoubtedly the best mishima now. Devil Jin got hit very hard but still good regardless... Kazuya and Hei are same really, they've never been as good as Jin anyway.
Ws3 can be considered a minor nerf. But zen3 is still there
@@DreadPyke Well I never cosidered Jin to be a mishima. Jin may be good in general, but there are a lot of characters who outshine him. And now there is gonna be even less Jins at tournaments. A lot of Jin mains already stopped playing because of Season 3 nerfs. If there is gonna be more of that, as you suggest, then Jin mains are going to dissapear for good.
@@BlueGangsta_MX Jin is only going to be more prominent now though. This nerf isn't a core jin move, Jin still has magic 4 as his go-to homing. Think about it, all the top characters that the world's top Jins used to struggle againnst are now MUCH weaker. Devilster said he always struggled against Pakistani Geese lockdown, now that's alot less oppressive. Similarly Book no longer has to worry about Fahk/Geese either, his main kryptonites.
You have to look at the bigger picture here. Jin came out relatively unscathed in a patch that gutted alot of top tiers (except f*cking akuma). Similarly Steve and Bryan got through relatively unscathed too.
Fucking finally!
What's the song?
Saxophone under the moon
Do hwo changes
Only one change uf3+4 3 has the new wall stun animation