Coming from a cowboys fan, I remember the “rivalry” between wentz and dak. Say what you will about dak and the boys but I think about how comparing the two now would be insane lol
Hackenberg going in the 2nd round was one of the most bizarre picks ive ever seen. Any Penn State fan could tell you he wasnt good. He was a top high school recruit who had a good freshman year and then regressed every year and was an average at best NCAA QB that most penn state fans were happy to see go. It was ABSURD to take him so high.
I mean to say that the scholarship restrictions and chaos placed on the program after the Sandusky fiasco didn’t severely the depth of that team, ESPECIALLY at offensive line, is incredibly disingenuous
It because he had great technique when it comes to throwing the ball but it proven in today game that you need to be coach able and either play in system that a qb familiar with playing in college (Dak,Pat Mahomes and Kyler Murray) or on a good team that carry and boost confidence (like Lamar Jackson and josh Allen) This video explains it and the dude thought Christian would be elite ruclips.net/video/BhQRXLhYRO4/видео.html
@@batjewthegreat3531 He had the physical gifts but anybody who watched his last couple years in college could tell you he had ZERO shot of being a successful NFL QB. He was flat out mediocre and often looked lost. It seemed like he put in zero effort to learn the game or get better because he was so good growing up and so naturally talented.
@@anaxagoras2930 The Sandusky situation 100% made the team around him much worse which made it harder but he also severely regressed and was genuinely a mediocre NCAA QB who had horrible decision making and often looked lost. He wasnt even good his last couple years let alone draft pick worthy let alone 4th QB taken in entire draft. It was ABSURD for him to be taken so high. He should have been an undrafted free agent signing based on physical gifts where you hope you can fix and teach him enough that he can be a competent back up. But to take an at best average struggling NCAA QB in 2nd round is insane.
As someone from Memphis and a Memphis Tigers fan. Paxton Lynch was a legend being part of those glory days. It pains me to see his failure in the NFL dude was a beast playing college.
Man I miss that team, now we got a coach who can’t coach and a miserable offense. Even though we have had better teams since then, I still think that is the best team Memphis has had in my lifetime
2nd year Wentz is one of the best QB season I personally ever seen, lived and Philly and worked at the Linc he was magic with some of the things he did
I'm a Cowboys fan and I vividly remember being shocked at them failing to get Paxton Lynch and Connor Cook during the draft, not even realizing what was REALLY in store once Dak's name was called.
I always wondered what happened to Christian Hackenberg. I’m a Michigan fan so watched my team play against him 4 times, figured he’d at least managed to play a little bit in the NFL but guess that’s why I’m not a professional talent scout
This isn’t even hindsight. Paxton Lynch was balling at Memphis & Dak was balling in the SEC. I’ll always take the QB who performed highly against the tougher competition. Christian Hackenberg was the one that annoyed me. He was so good as a freshman running the Patriots offense under Billy O. I thought the pro game would be perfect for him.
Need to update this goff is a solid QB his ceiling is 11-15 range for QB which is still very good he had a great year probably his best year in the nfl this year with those Detroit lions…
Jordan Love is like 25, 26. He's probably gonna retire next year since by then he's got his 8-10 million dollars and all he had to do was chill and work out and watch film.
Had to remind myself who all was in it... Burrow, Tagovailoa, Herbert, Hurts, and Love at the top, and some of the later-round guys like Jake Fromm, Jacob Eason, Jake Luton, and even Ben DiNucci have at least seen some action.
you always do a good job of staying pretty unbiased; but tbh at 13:20 ish cousins makes those same types of playes, but maybe not as often for sure cuz he is older
All you have to do is listen to the last sentence of what is said about Goff to just stop watching lmao. Not even a Lions fan and to act like he isn't a huge part of their resurrection is fucking insane.
KTOOOOOOOOOO!! Man, almost forgot a lot of those QBs in that draft. Hoping OBJ goes to Dallas after Turkey day. Don't see how Dallas could afford him but we'll see. Appreciate the vid!! Outtro always hits lol!
Wilson is or at the very least bad in 2022 but Paxton Lynch literally could not play at a NFL level. A 7th round pick kept beating him out for the starting job, even with fans and coaches waiting him to start they realistically couldn’t start him over someone clearly better
@Joshua Lamp He was nowhere near as good when Memphis played opponents who weren't weak. The last bowl game Lynch played in and lost against a six loss Auburn team where he completed less than half his passes for 106 yards, no tds and one pick was a clear warning sign of how overrated the guy had been.
I just started watching you again and I can’t believe how much I missed your videos I used to watch them like 5 years ago maybe longer but idk Y I kinda just stopped watching you videos but now that I started watching them again I wish I never stopped because I love the videos you make and enjoy them so much thank you for the work you put into these videos to entertain people like me ❤❤❤❤
Everyone forgets the Rams offense ran through the run with Todd Gurley. He got injured and the scrapped together a run game without him against the Patriots, but he is a large reason why the Rams got there.
I'm very happy the Broncos drafted Lynch. Kansas City was likely going to draft Lynch at #28 that year. Reid had worked him out and was high on his skills he showed. KC was irked and traded out of the 1st rd. They would select some guy named Chris Jones due to this one lol.
Still will always respect Sudfeld for playing for my Eagles in the playoffs against the Seahawks. I think it was 2019 maybe. Game was totally gone at this point, but he threw himself at the game like he could make a difference himself. Love that fucking guy
Pro Football Focus all but founded there draft analysis reputation on the back of calling the Christian Hackenberg pick one of the worst in the 21st century at the time, and having it bear out exactly as they claimed.
Lions fan here, the dismissal of Goff was premature, he lead the lions to the comeback season of the century, and will certainly lead them to many playoff victories.
Maybe not repeat a super bowl, but Prescott definitely had a better rookie season than what Peyton was putting up the year before, so reaching the AFCC wouldnt be out of the question with the roster they had
10:40 - Isn't Sudfeld still active? He's with the Lions for 2022. Connor Cook at least gets to go down in trivia-question history, as being the only QB to make his first (not to mention only) start in a playoff game.
In Wentz's defense, At his peak he was playing some of the best football Ive seen. Matching peak Rodgers, Brady, Manning, Marino, Montana, Young, and Farve. Then he got hurt and turned to trash. Shows you hard it is to get and keep a franchise QB.
Jared Goff is probably the best QB from this class he is the only one to make a Super Bowl as Carson Wentz did but come on he would have lost to Tom Brady no question. Also Jared Goff is helping the lions to go from worst to first.
Hackenberg felt like everyone in the draft was falling in love with what he could be rather then what he was. When in reality, it was likely just those in New York who fell in love with the fact he had measurements and could switch small talk subjects in a pressured interview environment. You do really wonder if Bill O' Brien had stayed with him in college if he would've kept growing as a passer. Not franchise material even in those circumstances, but at least be serviceable as a backup. Not, we're a 5-11 team down 3 scores in a losing game and we wont even let you attempt a pass levels bad.
It's sad the jets never once tried to even take a small chance on Chris, they never would've known his true potential. And now, no one ever will. Like what's the point of them taking him, just for him to rot on the bench?
Prescott and Cook had almost identical numbers in college (both MSUs). Dak went to a top five OL/RB while cook went to the dysfunctional raiders. Just goes to show how the team drafting is almost as important as the guy drafted and makes you wonder is Hackenburg might’ve done at least something on a team that’s not the Jets (I’m not saying Cook is a better QB than Dak just pointing out the parallels)
Hey K, I’m not sure if you’re aware or not, but established titles is a scam. There’s several videos about this floating around RUclips as of today. I love your videos, and this is not a witch hunt. I just don’t want you to be associated with something like ET. Please check it out.
My man, why you promoting the scam known as Established Titles? A channel your size should be doing their research on what they're promoting to their audience, this is just silly.
Reminder that established titles is a scam and you get nothing you're promised, KTO you got scammed, if you want to get trees just donate to the actual charity.
Carson Wentz has had such a weird career
Extremely
the ACL tear ruined his career, in addition to pederson's beef with roseman that ruined team chemistry
@@musyarofah1 he got his brains turned into mashed potatoes by Clowney
Not really bruh made it to the mf land keep getting starting jobs and big money. Every kids dream
Coming from a cowboys fan, I remember the “rivalry” between wentz and dak. Say what you will about dak and the boys but I think about how comparing the two now would be insane lol
The broncos sign a qb every season and it’s always “we finally found our missing piece” 😭
Broncos haven’t had a decent QB since Manning
Like Detroit and receivers
@@honkamania1174 Manning was just a temporary bright spot to hide the fact that we haven’t had a decent QB since Elway.
@@VGI4NI you have a nice profile picture
Same with the vikings
Hackenberg going in the 2nd round was one of the most bizarre picks ive ever seen. Any Penn State fan could tell you he wasnt good. He was a top high school recruit who had a good freshman year and then regressed every year and was an average at best NCAA QB that most penn state fans were happy to see go. It was ABSURD to take him so high.
It was all because of his talent
I mean to say that the scholarship restrictions and chaos placed on the program after the Sandusky fiasco didn’t severely the depth of that team, ESPECIALLY at offensive line, is incredibly disingenuous
It because he had great technique when it comes to throwing the ball but it proven in today game that you need to be coach able and either play in system that a qb familiar with playing in college (Dak,Pat Mahomes and Kyler Murray) or on a good team that carry and boost confidence (like Lamar Jackson and josh Allen)
This video explains it and the dude thought Christian would be elite
ruclips.net/video/BhQRXLhYRO4/видео.html
@@batjewthegreat3531 He had the physical gifts but anybody who watched his last couple years in college could tell you he had ZERO shot of being a successful NFL QB. He was flat out mediocre and often looked lost.
It seemed like he put in zero effort to learn the game or get better because he was so good growing up and so naturally talented.
@@anaxagoras2930 The Sandusky situation 100% made the team around him much worse which made it harder but he also severely regressed and was genuinely a mediocre NCAA QB who had horrible decision making and often looked lost. He wasnt even good his last couple years let alone draft pick worthy let alone 4th QB taken in entire draft. It was ABSURD for him to be taken so high. He should have been an undrafted free agent signing based on physical gifts where you hope you can fix and teach him enough that he can be a competent back up. But to take an at best average struggling NCAA QB in 2nd round is insane.
KTO is the goat of nfl videos I mean this man really needs to make a podcast
He had one with Flemlo raps called Sports Therapy. I believe they have given up on the project unfortunately
he has one with Flemlo Raps called Sports Therapy. Not sure if it's still active.
He deserves more recognition in general
@@stormcat3648 no they just use it for livestream reactions to games now
His style doesn’t necessarily correlate to being a good podcaster
As someone from Memphis and a Memphis Tigers fan. Paxton Lynch was a legend being part of those glory days. It pains me to see his failure in the NFL dude was a beast playing college.
Man I miss that team, now we got a coach who can’t coach and a miserable offense. Even though we have had better teams since then, I still think that is the best team Memphis has had in my lifetime
2nd year Wentz is one of the best QB season I personally ever seen, lived and Philly and worked at the Linc he was magic with some of the things he did
I'm a Cowboys fan and I vividly remember being shocked at them failing to get Paxton Lynch and Connor Cook during the draft, not even realizing what was REALLY in store once Dak's name was called.
We should be pleased, Cowboys dodged a bullet taking Dak over Cook or Lynch
@@gourami7 true
@gouriami7 I love that we chose Dak. I honestly thought that Lynch wasn't gonna be it.
Broncos actually traded up to 26th to draft lynch, makes the story even worse
Remember watching u when I was a little kid I’m turning 14 December the 3rd
I always wondered what happened to Christian Hackenberg. I’m a Michigan fan so watched my team play against him 4 times, figured he’d at least managed to play a little bit in the NFL but guess that’s why I’m not a professional talent scout
Chef's kiss, what a superb video, so well done! I usually hate on Dak just to poke fun... But I have to respect the dude now!
Man that sound at the end always hits.
Kto you make my day I watched every one of your videos
Same
Kto should definitely make a video on how much cameras has changed the game of football
Dakota Prescott
Yes
Zach Wilson is the next Paxton lynch
I’d give him a Jamarcus Russell comparison. He just needs to get fat.
Next Ryan Leaf
At least Zach Wilson has looked good at point during his career, lynch barely played and look horrible the whole time
This isn’t even hindsight. Paxton Lynch was balling at Memphis & Dak was balling in the SEC. I’ll always take the QB who performed highly against the tougher competition. Christian Hackenberg was the one that annoyed me. He was so good as a freshman running the Patriots offense under Billy O. I thought the pro game would be perfect for him.
0:33 is that TD Berrot?
Need to update this goff is a solid QB his ceiling is 11-15 range for QB which is still very good he had a great year probably his best year in the nfl this year with those Detroit lions…
no. jared goff is bad.
When the 2020 class gets evaluated it might be one of the best ever.....especially if the jordan love era gets up and running successfully.
Jordan Love is like 25, 26. He's probably gonna retire next year since by then he's got his 8-10 million dollars and all he had to do was chill and work out and watch film.
Had to remind myself who all was in it... Burrow, Tagovailoa, Herbert, Hurts, and Love at the top, and some of the later-round guys like Jake Fromm, Jacob Eason, Jake Luton, and even Ben DiNucci have at least seen some action.
you always do a good job of staying pretty unbiased; but tbh at 13:20 ish cousins makes those same types of playes, but maybe not as often for sure cuz he is older
At the end when you brought up Kirk, I was waiting for the final clip to be the Cowboys blowing out the Vikings
All you have to do is listen to the last sentence of what is said about Goff to just stop watching lmao. Not even a Lions fan and to act like he isn't a huge part of their resurrection is fucking insane.
This was made a year ago bud
W video like all ways KTO thanks for making great videos they make my day
KTOOOOOOOOOO!! Man, almost forgot a lot of those QBs in that draft. Hoping OBJ goes to Dallas after Turkey day. Don't see how Dallas could afford him but we'll see. Appreciate the vid!! Outtro always hits lol!
KTO I would drop Established Titles if you're able too. I've seen a ton of channels drop them recently because of controversy involving them.
Need 2017 asap
Russell Wilson makes Paxton Lynch looks like a draft steal at that time
To be fair, 2022 has been an absolutely wonky season for all the top QBs. For instance, look at how bad Stafford, Brady, and Rodgers are playing.
This is one of those things that, I'm sure, sounded hilarious in your head...not so much once it left that space.
Wilson is or at the very least bad in 2022 but Paxton Lynch literally could not play at a NFL level. A 7th round pick kept beating him out for the starting job, even with fans and coaches waiting him to start they realistically couldn’t start him over someone clearly better
As soon as KTO posts a video i watch it in 5 mins
Look at what Goff is doing with the lions he was the best qb in his class
I can’t believe Lynch was shit, he balled in college
@Joshua Lamp He was nowhere near as good when Memphis played opponents who weren't weak. The last bowl game Lynch played in and lost against a six loss Auburn team where he completed less than half his passes for 106 yards, no tds and one pick was a clear warning sign of how overrated the guy had been.
I just started watching you again and I can’t believe how much I missed your videos I used to watch them like 5 years ago maybe longer but idk Y I kinda just stopped watching you videos but now that I started watching them again I wish I never stopped because I love the videos you make and enjoy them so much thank you for the work you put into these videos to entertain people like me ❤❤❤❤
i saw this video popped up and i audibly gasped. i had such a shit day i love these vids
Your videos have the best end bumper music & tags on RUclips!
No disrespect, but what is your sponsor bro 😂😂
Goff is doing good now in Detroit. Win win for rams and lions
As a mississippi state fan, this video just made my day
My favorite thing is when I see a new KTO video
2013 just might get that 1 pro-bowler yet.
Carson wentz is another example of a great player who’s career was crushed by an injury
He was never strong mentally though either
@@henryblack9553 Yeap that was definitely a factor
@@Dakotastorms Wentz took the fact that Foles won the SB with the Eagles and was the hero in Philly really badly. It affected him mentally
Goff has done well honestly. Look at the stats 👀 before making your "analysis".
KTO is the most goated RUclipsr to watch while eating
Everyone forgets the Rams offense ran through the run with Todd Gurley. He got injured and the scrapped together a run game without him against the Patriots, but he is a large reason why the Rams got there.
Feels like yesterday
I'm very happy the Broncos drafted Lynch. Kansas City was likely going to draft Lynch at #28 that year. Reid had worked him out and was high on his skills he showed.
KC was irked and traded out of the 1st rd. They would select some guy named Chris Jones due to this one lol.
Still will always respect Sudfeld for playing for my Eagles in the playoffs against the Seahawks. I think it was 2019 maybe. Game was totally gone at this point, but he threw himself at the game like he could make a difference himself. Love that fucking guy
Paxton Lynch is doing decent in the usfl he may be a backup but he was doing well when he got his starting chance
goff is now a top 10 qb
Pro Football Focus all but founded there draft analysis reputation on the back of calling the Christian Hackenberg pick one of the worst in the 21st century at the time, and having it bear out exactly as they claimed.
Geno about to add a 1 to that Pro Bowl column
After hearing that the cowboys were gonna pick Lynch over Prescott, makes me think what if the picks were switched? (Nudge nudge video idea)
you need to do this in a couple years for the 2020 draft
Hot take: the rams still win that Super Bowl with Goff and have the draft picks to rebuild still
Lions fan here, the dismissal of Goff was premature, he lead the lions to the comeback season of the century, and will certainly lead them to many playoff victories.
Wondering if Broncos fans would have taken Prescott with hindsight, and if so would he have been able to get a ring on that team?
As a Broncos fan, I would have selected Prescott knowing what I do now. Dude will have a top 10 arm for awhile.
And the Super Bowl could have been done but we’ve had terrible coaches since 2015
Maybe not repeat a super bowl, but Prescott definitely had a better rookie season than what Peyton was putting up the year before, so reaching the AFCC wouldnt be out of the question with the roster they had
To be fair some of those guys have been backups for a few years. Jeff D and Sudfeld still playing. To stay in the league is something.
You should do one for the 2017 qb draft class
2017 wentz looked like mahomes. Don’t believe me? Watch the highlights
and 2018 Goff looked liked Joe Montana
Happy early Thanksgiving KTO!!
tayvon austin highlight made me happy made me smile
10:40 - Isn't Sudfeld still active? He's with the Lions for 2022.
Connor Cook at least gets to go down in trivia-question history, as being the only QB to make his first (not to mention only) start in a playoff game.
You should update the Jared Goff segment since you relegated him a bust when that isn’t the case.
I’m thankful to the broncos for their draft decisions, First Dak, then we picked Micah Parsons
W video like usual
What about Trevone Boykin from TCU?
Dak has had a better career than Wentz. Super Bowl or no super bowl. Wentz just had a lucky year and then foles just rode that wave
Better then Wentz yes but not better then Goff
I thought Paxton Lynch was going to be it! Ah I was so convinced
In Wentz's defense, At his peak he was playing some of the best football Ive seen. Matching peak Rodgers, Brady, Manning, Marino, Montana, Young, and Farve. Then he got hurt and turned to trash. Shows you hard it is to get and keep a franchise QB.
@2:30 mark, Seeked isn’t a word KTO it’s sought haha
if KTO posts it's gonna be a good day
KT🐐
I feel like Goff is a bit underrated. People act like he's a bad qb, and he really isn't that bad. He's actually kinda good
Might need a correction on Goff after this season. He’s looking pretty good in that Detroit offense right now.
Who else is here after Jared Goff led to the lions from a 1-6 team to 9-8 team
Jared Goff is probably the best QB from this class he is the only one to make a Super Bowl as Carson Wentz did but come on he would have lost to Tom Brady no question. Also Jared Goff is helping the lions to go from worst to first.
Jared Goff is head & shoulders above everyone else In this class
@@steel749 oh yeah for sure
I still want to imagine a what if where the Raiders took Dak Prescott instead of Connor Cook
dak really is him man
Nah goff is him
You should do a series on the Madden Curse!!!!!!! Before and After
Do about the 2016 CBs draft class and finish with Eli Apple allowing Cooper Kupp the Game winning TD
Hackenberg felt like everyone in the draft was falling in love with what he could be rather then what he was. When in reality, it was likely just those in New York who fell in love with the fact he had measurements and could switch small talk subjects in a pressured interview environment. You do really wonder if Bill O' Brien had stayed with him in college if he would've kept growing as a passer. Not franchise material even in those circumstances, but at least be serviceable as a backup. Not, we're a 5-11 team down 3 scores in a losing game and we wont even let you attempt a pass levels bad.
Came back here a year later… I’m starting to think Goff wasn’t a product of a system
I still think that Cody Kessler was really nice as I always wanted the Browns to build around him. Life was crazy back then
It's sad the jets never once tried to even take a small chance on Chris, they never would've known his true potential. And now, no one ever will. Like what's the point of them taking him, just for him to rot on the bench?
I imagine they must have seen something during practice that turned them off of the idea
bad timing for an established titles ad hahahaha
I feel like Carson Wentz's potential is fulfilled by Josh Allen. Big, tall, athletic with a rocket arm, blah blah blah...
I thought at the end you were going to use a Kirk cousins interception for a second 😂
Prescott and Cook had almost identical numbers in college (both MSUs). Dak went to a top five OL/RB while cook went to the dysfunctional raiders. Just goes to show how the team drafting is almost as important as the guy drafted and makes you wonder is Hackenburg might’ve done at least something on a team that’s not the Jets (I’m not saying Cook is a better QB than Dak just pointing out the parallels)
do the 2015 long snapper class
Christian Hackenberg, Jets legend
Put an asterisk on the 2018 NFC title please.
Hey K, I’m not sure if you’re aware or not, but established titles is a scam. There’s several videos about this floating around RUclips as of today. I love your videos, and this is not a witch hunt. I just don’t want you to be associated with something like ET. Please check it out.
My man, why you promoting the scam known as Established Titles? A channel your size should be doing their research on what they're promoting to their audience, this is just silly.
First
When the 2021 draft video comes I’ll remember how bad Zack Wilson was during that time
4:04 just taking this in while I still can as I watch the season crash and burn
Reminder that established titles is a scam and you get nothing you're promised, KTO you got scammed, if you want to get trees just donate to the actual charity.
Goff not looking too bad these days...
Established titles is a scam please no one give these guys money
5:40 Rookie Trevon Diggs highlight tape
Established titles… yikes