Tutorial: Universal Audio Studer A800

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024

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  • @J-DUB-F1
    @J-DUB-F1 19 дней назад +28

    This is the most comprehensive UA A800 video I've yet seen. I've had it almost a year now and didn't know about the relationship between some of its functions. This really opens up the usability for me. Thank you for this, and yes more please ☺🙏

  • @stewie3128
    @stewie3128 Месяц назад +43

    Please keep making these tutorial videos. This is fantastic!

  • @behindtheact
    @behindtheact 20 дней назад +19

    Well, this is the most helpful thing EVER. I've used this so many times and had NO IDEA about most of these settings. Thank you for being awesome!

  • @dizmix
    @dizmix 20 дней назад +16

    the 900 is BASF 900 ... I never really used it but people claimed it had better top end, and vocals sounded better on it.. IDK... I used GP9 extensively at plus 9, 30ips, like 2.5 over bias.. ish.. (I think) .. You could still hit it hot and get almost a vari mu sounding compression. Enjoying the channel BTW.. 🍻

  • @carlasker9285
    @carlasker9285 19 дней назад +5

    You explain the impact that the different parameters have on each other better than anyone or anywhere I've ever heard. It is one of the greatest plugins ever, and I use it all the time.

  • @soundman127
    @soundman127 19 дней назад +9

    Great video as usual. Good explanation of real analogue tape recording. I have several comments and info about some of the shortcomings of real multitrack tape machines if anyone is interested. I worked at a studio (with 2 rooms) from 1982 until about '94 that had an A800 and two MCI JH24. Throughout that time almost every session worked at 30IPS (mostly with Dolby A noise reduction), Ampex (much later called Quantegy) 456 and NAB curve (always). In my early years, I wore out the knees of my jeans from kneeling, calibrating the machines several times a week. It was a massive time consuming hassle (carried out by the house engineers and assistants at our studio rather than maintenance dept). If a client brought in tapes to overdub, the machine would be totally re-aligned to match the 1kHz and 10kHz tones recorded at the top of their tape, both in repro and sync - then record aligned (including bias adjustment) using a blank bit of the tape that came in. (Not) funny story: An assistant working there before me once accidentally allowed the machine to run on from the blank bit (leadered up top and tail with plastic non magnetic tape) with all tracks in record onto the intro of the first song on the tape! No undo and seldom safety copies... Often the alignment tones would swing back and forth over a dB or two on the VU meters, generally caused by the tape weaving up and down a tiny bit - either on the original record machine or ours. This made me think about the erase head having a bad effect on the tracks adjacent to the one(s) you were recording on as well as the level moving randomly about. The Studer had a superior tape path and was much better built than the MCI (I remember being told that the A800 cost about the same as my house in London at that time!). However, I think the MCIs on a good day could sound better than the Studer, possibly because the electronic design was simpler. Our house maintenance guy was a bit of an MCI expert. This may seem astonishing - a couple of times he removed the heads and ground off the flat spots to get them back to the correct profile - the Whitesea machine could do with that but I can't imagine anyone daring to try sanding them with no replacements available! The ONLY time that the machines would be set to repro was during mixing or the occasional playback, otherwise of course they would remain in sync mode for overdubbing or 'comping'. It was very common to record several takes of a part (especially lead vocals) on different tracks, then compile them (with a patch from one track to another) making the overdub second generation and already degraded by the sound of the sync playback. While recording, I was generally disappointed that the sound became degraded and noisy. I was particularly appalled by the crunch added to a tambourine or hats recorded at any more than -10VU. I don't miss tape at all, especially as a plug in can now give you just the 'good stuff' from the real thing. Why anyone would want to add noise like tape makes zero sense to me. And seldom mentioned - crosstalk between tracks wasn't great - especially a problem on track 23 next to the timecode on track 24. I could go on much more about all of this but this is a ludicrously long comment already. Don't get me started on the massive hassle of a 48 track mix with two machines synchronised!

    • @effsixteenblock50
      @effsixteenblock50 19 дней назад

      It's always been a thing in analog recording that tambourines barely register on the VU meters and so you're in distortion territory very quickly. Better to not even look at the meter in that case.

  • @almightyyotto
    @almightyyotto 19 дней назад +6

    I’ve used this plugin once and it made my drums sound so good. Watching this tutorial I’ll be able to use it on a new level now.

  • @audiodude
    @audiodude 18 дней назад +2

    I started my career in tape world and I must say that you have by far made the most accurate description that I have viewed.

  • @desmondcole4300
    @desmondcole4300 19 дней назад +4

    I really appreciate these tutorial videos. Please make more of them! Thanks for the knowledge

  • @cefk9944
    @cefk9944 19 дней назад +3

    You had me at "groovy facts about tape in general" :)

  • @phillamoore157
    @phillamoore157 День назад

    This video was absolutely fascinating. I was just wanting to check out the plugin itself, and was blown away by the fact that he has that R2R machine. Very interesting, very cool, and very well done!

  • @toobvu
    @toobvu 19 дней назад +2

    This is perhaps the best overview I've found on tape technology and software emulation. The UAD A800 is an excellent lab for folks wanting to explore the technology imho.

  • @jergervasi3331
    @jergervasi3331 19 дней назад +2

    I grew up using tape machines, so I enjoyed the nostalgia of this video!

  • @VinnieDangerous
    @VinnieDangerous 19 дней назад +3

    This is really the detailed overview of tape machines I needed

  • @edbuller4435
    @edbuller4435 20 дней назад +4

    I love your videos. It's so funny watching the A800 plug-in, I used to have to line these up ...hell...the the misery of feeding a kick drum to tape and listening to it off the repro head, whilst trying to get a level that didn't hiss like hell and had a transient !! ...well I LOVE digital

    • @anteshell
      @anteshell 19 дней назад

      Why not to use repro head for that?

    • @edbuller4435
      @edbuller4435 19 дней назад

      @@anteshell so you actually hear what the sound on tape is. And it's always a schock !

  • @happyshadow
    @happyshadow 20 дней назад +7

    this, ik multimedia and the ua ampex are my favourites

  • @Maksitto
    @Maksitto 19 дней назад +1

    That's a great vid man. Would be cool to see like 60 minutes talking about all these settings inside studer in order to learn all of these. From this point it's cool to know what these knobs are doing but will be much cooler to know when and why apply them.

  • @blu2th101
    @blu2th101 19 дней назад +1

    You're one of the best, man. You should talk about the relationship between cutting to the Studer and mixing down to the Ampex (if you haven't already in another video). That was the super sauce back in the day. I hear... I'm not that old lol.

  • @johnvender
    @johnvender 20 дней назад +1

    Thank you very much for this. I got the Universal Audio Studer A800 plugin some time back but I haven't used it much so far but after your intro to it I feel ready to use it more. I did try some of the presets and was quite impressed by them, I guess one can use them as a starting point to creating one's own.

  • @hamardloic3621
    @hamardloic3621 18 дней назад +1

    Excellent explenations. Thanks a lot !

  • @BlackenedNL
    @BlackenedNL 19 дней назад +1

    One of the best videos on this channel!

  • @teddym2808
    @teddym2808 13 дней назад

    The VU meter is actually not just for looks at all. It's a guide for gain staging for those that aren't used to using a plugin like this. They are using either K14 or -18dbfs metering but I can't remember which off the top of my hat. For those that don't know what that means, K14 means that 0 on the VU is actually peaking at digital -14, so what Bob Katz did with the K14 was try to curb the loudness war and give us 14DB room in our gain staging.
    The other popular one is -18DBFS VU meter calibration, which you would think is the same thing but with -18 rather than -14, but it's not, not at all, there's a lot less headroom in fact but the general gist of the -18 spec is to peak max at 0 db on the VU meter that is calibrated to the -18 spec, and you'll have enough headroom on your tracks. But with the -18 spec this can be as little as 2 or 3 DB in some cases (heavily compressed sounds) whereas with the K14 spec you always gain 14DB of headroom as the meter is simply shifted down by 14DB. It's as simple as that.
    Sorry for the meter lesson but for those who might need help using UAD's metering, I thought this might be useful. I will go ahead and try the Studer plugin now and come back and let you all know which one of those two standards it uses.
    Personally, I use VUMT deluxe by Klanghelm to do all my gain staging using the VU -18dbfs calibration standard. I have found it works very well for pretty much everything.
    What UAD is saying here is that for just a subtle "track to tape" mojo feel, have the needle hitting about 0 on the VU. They are trying to provide a simple use case that "just sounds good" for everything.

  • @gabrieleponticiello6842
    @gabrieleponticiello6842 13 дней назад

    Hi! Thank you for this video which has the magical power of connecting younger generations to older ones (and I'm 52). I think the calibration explanation @ 8'34" is a bit blurry: back in the day if you had a given reference fluxivity and you wanted more signal printed to your working tape, you would first calibrate the repro head to read LESS decibels on the VU meters. Then you would match that by calibrating your record head to print MORE signal in order for the VU meters to show 0 dB. I'm sure you know all this because you have an MCI back there. I just thought it was good to mention to preserve information that otherwise would will be lost in a few years. That would be sad. Thanks again!

  • @shizznje1
    @shizznje1 19 дней назад

    Bro u neva Miss!!!!! thank you for explaining the tape parameters OMG thanks alot. i run the ATR 102 and i love it and everything u spoke on each parameter i thought but wasnt to sure i just went with my ears and i now know i was right. except for the bias i now understand. thanks again

  • @jimsanger
    @jimsanger 19 дней назад

    This is so useful. I've got loads of tape plugins over the years but I just use the UAD ones now, mostly this and the Ampex

  • @saxongroove5898
    @saxongroove5898 19 дней назад

    Great tuturial! Would love to see more of this kind of stuff

  • @Auldhelm
    @Auldhelm 17 дней назад

    Thank you for reminding me why I use presets - great video!

  • @theodoros3239
    @theodoros3239 17 дней назад

    Thank you for uploading such video. It is very comprehensive and explanatory. I wonder how much time a newbie has to spend to learn working with a real tape machine. Also I guess, when you work with different albums let's say, you would need different calibration.

  • @alexhulme6135
    @alexhulme6135 19 дней назад

    My GOD I’ve needed this video for FOREVER! Thanks so much 🙌🙌

  • @matthewhatch3393
    @matthewhatch3393 11 дней назад

    Absolutely love it - subscribed
    Thank you for your efforts!

  • @rocktonmusikschule
    @rocktonmusikschule 18 дней назад

    Cool!! Love those kind of videos. Always something new to learn. Thanks 🤘

  • @Iceleben
    @Iceleben 20 дней назад

    Thank you so much, the track that you used was very helpful to hear the different settings

  • @soundshigh
    @soundshigh 10 дней назад

    That was very informative and up to the point. Thanks!

  • @histakes12
    @histakes12 19 дней назад

    Great video. One note on NOISE:
    You can turn “HUM” and “HISS” down and keep “NOISE” engaged for a touch of character.
    Again, wonderful video!

  • @JanNoSabeQue
    @JanNoSabeQue 10 дней назад

    I did my best to follow the nano weber bit but I went out as soon as that funky bass line was played

  • @henrymyname8259
    @henrymyname8259 16 дней назад

    Your videos are so awesome extremely grateful videos like these...

  • @jayjlyon
    @jayjlyon 19 дней назад

    Really appreciate this deep dive. Thank you!

  • @shawcunningham
    @shawcunningham 20 дней назад

    Excellent video!... I always learn something watching your RUclips channel. Thank you!

  • @Cefshah
    @Cefshah 20 дней назад

    Man!! Good video, commentary and plugin. :)
    Personally, I've been enjoying mixing/matching various 'analogue' emulations of things. It took me years to realize, that since I was born in the 1950's, that analogue 'impression' is inside of me. I love the sound of pristine digital audio, but I certainly do remember the sounds of things back in the day (some of which was not so 'beautiful', but we worked around it as best we could). 🙂💙

  • @johnnyrenfield
    @johnnyrenfield 19 дней назад

    I bought this back in 2015 or so and yeah its been a work horse for years 🤘💀🍻🔥🙏

  • @josemorbass
    @josemorbass 17 дней назад

    Muchíasimas gracias, porl fin entiendo como funciona este plugins... siempre lo he configurado con el oido...Gran explicación

  • @iengineer_247
    @iengineer_247 18 дней назад

    I use this on a majority of my recordings. I like to use it in repo on my master bus!!

  • @joanna439
    @joanna439 18 дней назад +1

    I have been to every country in Europe except Holland and I use Fabfilter all the time.

  • @RubiconRecordings
    @RubiconRecordings 5 дней назад

    Brilliant Video....Thank you so much dude

  • @maimonester
    @maimonester 19 дней назад

    Thanks for a great video!

  • @risteardohaodha23
    @risteardohaodha23 17 дней назад

    Great video tutorial! Please can you do more UAD pluggins 🙏🏼
    *love the recording you use there as the ex😅, the intro has lovely CAN vibes, especially the rhythm section.

  • @bigtony7807
    @bigtony7807 19 дней назад +1

    Blackrooster Magnetite my go to tape plugin

  • @Munivemusica
    @Munivemusica 19 дней назад

    Great info.... I like this tape plugin a lot

  • @rugososphotos3646
    @rugososphotos3646 19 дней назад

    Awesome explanation, thank you!

  • @ir8123
    @ir8123 19 дней назад

    It really amazes me how many gear is plugin inspired 🙌

  • @juapara
    @juapara 19 дней назад

    This was an amzing video, thank you!

  • @screamingswifts
    @screamingswifts 9 дней назад

    You're saying you could throw your tape machine out of the room? Whoa, chill, Arnold!

  • @npinero1
    @npinero1 18 дней назад

    Wow great video! Thanks

  • @68Snaps
    @68Snaps 19 дней назад

    I would think the 900 is the RTM SM900 tape. Used for mastering (high quality, very transparent). RTM also makes the SM911 which is more colored.

  • @Migesteban
    @Migesteban 19 дней назад

    Thank you for the video

  • @jayarecordsofficial
    @jayarecordsofficial 19 дней назад

    Very valuable video Mr Snake Oil

  • @elrevientaesquinas
    @elrevientaesquinas 19 дней назад

    I really like this kind of tutorial, great!!!

  • @surgerywithoutknives2353
    @surgerywithoutknives2353 19 дней назад

    Really helpful … nice work !!!

  • @terryshaifer6831
    @terryshaifer6831 20 дней назад

    By far, best video yet!!!

  • @degani.guilherme
    @degani.guilherme 19 дней назад

    Great stuff, man!!! keep them coming!!!

  • @lasciencedelamusique6245
    @lasciencedelamusique6245 20 дней назад

    thank you! good subject and video as usual

  • @rafaell28
    @rafaell28 5 дней назад

    Would love to see your input on the engineering side on the recordings of Pink Floyd. Especially the ones that used and abused tape machines, recording technics and all the great things that they CREATED to achieve those espectacular sounds.

  • @thomaskunz3726
    @thomaskunz3726 19 дней назад

    I love that plugin!

  • @Bthelick
    @Bthelick 19 дней назад

    In / Out are linked if you hold Shift or Ctrl (can't remember sry I'm not at my studio)

  • @samuelbreuer
    @samuelbreuer 18 дней назад

    this Is gold thank you!

  • @FranzKPist
    @FranzKPist 19 дней назад

    Great video! Thank you!

  • @kenvives
    @kenvives 20 дней назад +1

    Thanks so much for this. I have a noob question, never having worked in an analog studio... From tracking to mastering, in general, how many times is an audio signal printed to tape? My guess is 3 - once at the tracking stage, once at the mixing stage and once for the master? Or if you only had one of an analog box and it's mono, would one channel get printed twice? Or do you print just one channel and then the other using the sync? Sorry if these seem like stupid questions.

  • @palsheldon6520
    @palsheldon6520 20 дней назад +1

    They brought out the 900 after the Ampex 456. BASF Studio Mastering 900

  • @FabricioRobles
    @FabricioRobles 19 дней назад

    the only uad plugin i'll ever buy

  • @mickynoise
    @mickynoise 19 дней назад

    900 is recording the masters Sm900 (Ex Basf). i have all formula tapes for my studer a80 (456,911,GP9,RMG900 etc) and 900 is the one i like the most. Also i have compared the original BASF 911 with the modern one from RTM and i prefer the new one in terms of sound

  • @ir8123
    @ir8123 19 дней назад

    @Whiteseastudio Give us review of that 200kg tape plugin behind you with examples.

  • @palmal3542
    @palmal3542 19 дней назад

    Great Vid...learned a lot 👍

  • @fescolfaro
    @fescolfaro 19 дней назад

    Great Tutorial ❤❤❤ if you want to try some of the most loved on gearspace, and I second most, IK Tapes are insane, Taipei is awesome, Taupe you have tried and don't like, and Tapeface are all special to me. There's a bunch of Nebula that's also super great, but I don't think you'd do that. Lastly Ampex 102 from uad is also amazing.

  • @derrickmusisi6089
    @derrickmusisi6089 19 дней назад

    Nice video!....could you kindly make a video on Airwindows Consolidated (all in one plugin)....

  • @paulsearles
    @paulsearles 18 дней назад

    Thank you!

  • @MrXikwriNeyrra
    @MrXikwriNeyrra 19 дней назад

    Airwindows ToTape 7 is out! you should do a deathmatch with these 2

  • @hviewstudio
    @hviewstudio 19 дней назад

    Amazing video my friend ...... Thank U

  • @gigngamer
    @gigngamer 19 дней назад

    Thanks!

  • @IAMCORNHOLIOINEEDTP
    @IAMCORNHOLIOINEEDTP 19 дней назад

    Sorry for off-topic but: I would be really interested to hear what a gearhead like you has to say about the MBSI Console Strip. You know your way around analog equipment and EQs. Maybe there will be another video?

  • @RedButtonTV1
    @RedButtonTV1 19 дней назад

    that sync thing made the dub
    rip lee perry

  • @WilliamAshleyOnline
    @WilliamAshleyOnline 19 дней назад

    What I am curious is how the Struder compares to the oxide tape. As Oxide comes with analog classics that came with the volt interfaces --- I think Struder is/was available for a 30 day trial or something. I so like the oxide just wondering how the sound is differnet on these. I am guessing you know this already - Repro probably means "reproduction" Re pro "Short for Reproduction, the repro function in tape recorders allows for the playback of all tracks, including those that are currently being recorded. The way this works is through the use of a separate repro head. The repro head of a tape machine is generally only capable of playback (not recording) and is optimized as such. In the earlier days of tape recorders the repro head was the only head on a tape machine capable of full fidelity playback. It usually has its own set of corresponding electronics in the machine that can also be optimized for playback. Also important is the positioning of the head, which is after the other tape heads along the tape path. Since the repro head is last in the series, the engineer can monitor off of this head even while recording on another head, which means it’s possible to literally monitor the actual results of the recorded (and played back) signal on the tape. This is sometimes also referred to as confidence monitoring. The only caveat is that the signal one hears is delayed by the length of time it takes a particular point on the tape to travel from the head where it was recorded over to this separate repro head. This distance is usually not much more than an inch and a half, so if the tape were moving at 15 ips the delay would be about a tenth of a second." I am guessing GP9 stands for General purpose 9 speed???? However the GP9 is higher in distortion at output levels 12dB.
    GP9 has much more complex dependency of distortion on, output level, bias and wavelength I AM WRONG GP9 was and still is regarded as one of the best tapes of all time. The GP stood for Grand Master Platinum (remember that the previous TOTL tape was #499 and had the moniker "Gold" attached to it.) and the 9 standsfor the specfic 3m tape formula # 9

  • @C_F_M
    @C_F_M 20 дней назад

    I've been having a lot of fun with this plugin lately but had no idea what bias was actually doing so thanks for answering that mystery

  • @nature-g2l
    @nature-g2l 19 дней назад

    it sounds alot more real to see the wheels going round.
    music is love forever ? is music love ?
    ok Love is forever, but is music Love ?
    theres more to music than meets the eye, the gu-i.

  • @DePodcastSpecialist
    @DePodcastSpecialist 19 дней назад

    I LOVE this version of Darude's Sandstorm :-)

  • @aipsong
    @aipsong 20 дней назад

    Excellent!!!Thanks!!!

  • @andrewrwhitfield
    @andrewrwhitfield 19 дней назад

    Thanks

  • @prodbyvicrec
    @prodbyvicrec 17 дней назад

    J37 fire to 🔥

  • @cubeaceuk9034
    @cubeaceuk9034 19 дней назад

    I don't now about the plugins but your open reel machine's tape heads look really worn. The grooves into the heads look as deep as the thickness of your tape. New or unused tape in nigh impossible to find apart from Tomann. I have one unused from new 10" Quantegy 456 reel left. My heads are fine but I have one worn tape guide. BASF Pro 50 was excellent as was the Agfa equivalent. A lot of the standard cheaper tape lasted better than the mat backed tapes as long as it wasn't the LP thin stuff. I don't think a 10" reel is going to last long enough at 30ips to record a classical track. What 15 minutes?
    Stil,l excellent work as always. 👍

  • @Bkoded
    @Bkoded 19 дней назад

    cant believe i never realised that some of the settings in the more advanced settings correspond to what head youre using

  • @caseyschultheis
    @caseyschultheis 19 дней назад

    Well done!

  • @bennthirteen3701
    @bennthirteen3701 19 дней назад

    thanks for this video,, would you review voxengo toete and peakbuster?

  • @AlessandroMaiani
    @AlessandroMaiani 10 дней назад

    Great as usual!
    Only a question: what do you think about tape emulation gear such as Rupert Neve 542? Do you think it’s worth having a couple of them in 500 series? Have you ever thought of making some comparison between plugins, phisical tape emus and real tape machines?
    thanks!

  • @jrgenthomsen8692
    @jrgenthomsen8692 17 дней назад

    Thanks...... it is a little disapointing that Y diden't made a real compersion to y'r tapemashine, and played a track on the mashine and made a track on the plugin...... That has been a very nice experince... best Jt from Denmark DK

  • @JohnDrewVoice
    @JohnDrewVoice 20 дней назад

    The 900 setting likely represents RTM SM900 Analog Tape.

  • @przmatic_
    @przmatic_ 19 дней назад

    Thank you!

  • @dykodesigns
    @dykodesigns 19 дней назад

    Interresting video. Noob question: did there also exist chrome and metal based studio tapes or where these only ferro based? How do these professional tape machine tape formulations relate to consumer compact cassette formats? Some commercial audio cassettes in the 80’s and 90’s where chrome tapes but where often duplicated with a type 1 normal tape bias. The chrome aspect was often used as selling point of audio quality to the consumer.

  • @kgmusic70
    @kgmusic70 19 дней назад

    Good stuff!

  • @DrEdCalle
    @DrEdCalle 19 дней назад

    Outstanding!

  • @unclestepa
    @unclestepa 19 дней назад

    thx!

  • @gonrazortapes
    @gonrazortapes 12 дней назад

    Why this version hasn't the Gang controls? I noticed the gang controls feature from the Studer A800 hasn't been carried over from the DSP version to Native. Gang Control is key part of the workflow...