where sir did you get that beer? That shock wheat is a beer with the mascot of the team in the city i live in. Are you a local, or was it sent to you ect?
Finally! The video I have been waiting for. I have considered grabbing a similar combo for a while but was hesitant because of the O/C issues. Now that we have an answer my interest has been piqued again. Thank you and keep up the great work 🙂
Thank you! This reassured me, I just ordered a Ryzen 7 1700 a week ago. I was previously considering a Xeon processor and was worried if I made the right choice.
Oh man, those Ryzens from Aliexpress sure seem like the best bang for buck currently, if we talk higher end of things. Although I built my own system around 1650v2, because there are really cheap combo options (mobo+cpu+ram) on Ali. So I'd say either option is very good, it's just I didn't really need that extra performance for additional price - decided I'd rather spend the money on a better graphics card. I'll get a Ryzen if I decide to upgrade :3
Your price comparisons to newer parts at the end was on point. Great way to get the most out of older equipment if you already own, but always looking at the big picture.
I would actually suggest the E5 2678v3 over this chip, its an 87 dollar 12 core 24 thread chip that can be turbo hacked to 3.3ghz all core. When comparing it to say a 2700 it has more memory bandwidth and performs better in all core workloads, such as blender, file compression/decompression, and supports ddr3 and ddr4, thus the Huananzhi x99 TF's existence (but I have the F8 for the 8 dimm ddr4 memory support). It may fall behind in gaming marginally, but overall is not a terrible experience. I have this exact chip with some really killer memory and a vega 56 flashed to a frontier edition.
@@CraftComputing nice. Also one to look out for is the 2696v3, as it also supported ddr3 and is an "unofficial" 2011-3 server chip. I have a friend who has 2 of them in a dual socket jingsha system with 128gb ddr3 2133 cl9 in 8 channel (4 per cpu) He spent 217 bucks a pop on them
@@KadiusFTW Aye, both the 2678 V3 and the 2696 v3 are very interesting for a workstation/gaming machine. I run nearly the same setup like you [only flashed my Vega 56 to a Vega 64] and it serves me very well so far since June. The quality of the Huananzhi X99-TF is outstanding for a Chinese board (albeit you have to mod it to get the most out of it, but it was a great learning experience and there are a lot of great tutorials on the web which make it easy). Have you found a way to disable the onboard speaker? That is the only annoyance which drives me crazy (fingers crossed that the two active coolers on the board won't die that soon).
@@seylaw there is an option in the bios that is hidden, you need to activate it with the ami bios tool. Also, you can buy more of those fans for this board off of ali for 2 bucks a pop
You complicated it big time!! Intel xtu lets you set current and power limits on the fly. Even though i like overclocking though bios the flexibility of xtu is incredible.
Thanks for the video! I think the only advantage to these Chinese server motherboards to users in the west would be that server RAM is still somewhat cheaper than the comparable desktop RAM, and that on a lot of these Chinese motherboards also can handle more memory per slot, plus more slots. If you needed something that memory intensive, it might still make a little sense.
X5680 is alright. It's my favorite X58 cpu for value. Mine tops out around 105x in cinebench R15 with a 4.5GHZ OC and 18xx on ram in triple channel. Not bad but hard to compete with ryzen price/performance.
I think the E5 2640v3 with the turbo unlock is still a decent value on a motherboard such as this. They run about $50 ebay a E5 2620v3 is another budget alternative for $20
@@kevinv.c2998 sleep function is problematic some times, builtin audio is horrible, UEFI support for GPUs are hit or miss (miss on my case, so my RX5500 XT doesnt give video during bios or windows installation, luckly I use linux which does give video). VRMs run hot even with a fan on it. Performance is acceptable, around Ryzen 3 performance in games, better in productivity for my 2620 V3.
I have a E5-2678v3 with turbo boost unlock and my friend has a Ryzen 5 3600 and we both are using the same aircooler (Coolermaster T4) and paste, but my xeon is cooler than his ryzen at full workload in Prime95. We dont understand this. Maybe because die size? 77mm² vs 661mm² so heat can spread better?
i got a xeon e5-1660 v3 on a gigabyte x99 ultra gaming...was able to hit 4.5ghz at the same exact 1.28 volts...paired with my GTX Titan Xp (2017) and its quite the gaming system
was good to see you highlite the power differences vs more modern amd - this will continue to grow is another point to note as well - great you were able to get it optimized #braver souls
pls do something aimed at discount smb - whatever is going to give smb bast bang for buck - maybe r730xd? way better than a 720 - also do some nvme arrays for db perf? do a 100g or 40g nic and just connect direct to other boxes w/o an expensive switch? lastly not leastly do whatever you want to do - test out how much diff cache server makes (only static content) #nat in 4 steps #siege #apache bench #reverse caching proxy #nginx-full
These are really interesting, and great for messing around with. Also great the older parts could get some use instead of going to waste. They don't make much sense in the UK now though. They are just too expensive compared to older Ryzen.
Have to disagree. Even the low end 5820k will beat 2800x or lower in just about any workload, especially gaming. Even for the odd highly multi threaded task that isnt ram dependent their cinebench scores arent far apart. With quad channel ddr4 they can reach speeds any consumer zen+ chip can only dream of. My 5930k scores 50-55ns on the aida64 latency benchmark compared to 80ns+ on any zen+ chip i've ever touched.
i would add my perspective and say that they are not as interesting to people because they are in direct challenge against new chip and for the second hand market am4 board are far cheaper and not chinese branded.
Hi! This is some great content you have here, I'd like to throw in some of my experiences with X99. I run a 1660 v3 myself, I bought this as a brand new tray processor. It was produced in 2018 with batch# J821E556 (I didn't know they continued producing these 22nm dinosaurs this recently!) Mine overclocks better than yours (achieves up to 4.5 stable in Realbench) but isn't great compared to the better 5960X's out there, from early 2015 onwards, with a stable 4.6 not being too uncommon and 4.7 being achieved by some, under 1.35v. The AVX offset, which I'd love to have, only works on Broadwell CPUs with X99 and that option doesn't appear at all on my Asus Strix X99, but will do if I had a Broadwell-E processor installed. My daily driver with this chip is 4.40 GHz at Auto voltage, which sets 1.31v adaptive. I was having the opposite issue with power consumption than you were lol, with me unable to limit power consumption on my chip to prevent it degrading in a worst case scenario. I tried to set the "Short Duration Power Limit" and "Long Duration Power Limit" to 250W and 200W respectively, but that did nothing, still exceeding 300W in AVX Prime (which I only ran for a few seconds to test this) If you happen to know whether I can get this to work via a setting that I am missing or something, that'd be great. In terms of real world performance I think you are underestimating these, my personal findings include that I didn't even need to overclock this to it's full potential to match a Ryzen 7 3700X (which I had but sold shortly after deciding I could happily keep an X99 system as my personal machine) in some games, as long as I just kept the RAM tweaked. Overclocking the CPU allows it to exceed the performance of a 3rd gen Ryzen in most cases when gaming, in some games by a larger margin than in others. I ordered an RTX 3080 last month which should hopefully be here by mid-November, I'll happily test some more games in a purely CPU bound situation with the new card. The Ryzens are still more efficient however and more well rounded, and them not needing to be overclocked to reach ~full potential, including smart clock speed adjustment based on workload, voltage, temperature, power etc. is a great plus for the vast majority of users. As I type this, AMD may be revealing some new awesome Ryzen 5000 series CPUs in under an hour! xD Motherboard compatibility is also another big plus for Ryzen ofc. I hope you read my comment, thanks!
The problem is that they are using the worst x99 boards that every existed. I have a asus deluxe x99 with a 5960x, overclocked at 4.6(uncore at 4000, and 32gb of DDR4 at 3200 T1) with 1.32v since 2015.. is used every day, to play games.
@@pedroferrr1412 Good to hear that you have not had any degradation running at 1.32v for 5+ years now... my X99 Strix board should be similar to yours for OCing as much of the power delivery is the same as far as I'm aware. Should be a lot better than the cheapest ones you can find. Kinda wish I had a slightly better sample and some Samsung B-Die or dual rank E-Die RAM lol, but I'm pretty fine with my setup as it is.
Been debating trying to OC my Asus X99 Deluxe w/ E5-1650v3 but its currently being used for TrueNAS, once I move and get a rack to use for TrueNAS I might try it out.. But you got decent results with a 1660 and Chinese MB!
in some cases (or all), if you have an avx offset and a program is utilizing one cpu core, the entire cpu will downclock to that avx offset, regardless if the other cores are in use or idle. better find a balance and have no offset
I'd love for you to make a video about the somewhat rare Intel i7-5775C CPU! I think it would make a pretty interesting video! Keep up the great work, Jeff!
overlcocking with a x99 chinise board not ideal and worth it, those boards are great at using huge amount of cores at low frequencies and huge amount of Ram ideal for heavy computing tasks. unlocking turbo boost and paring with a decent graphics card makes then a decent gaming machine. using then for workloads makes them a budget work beast for you renderings and projects.
I must say you have nerves of steal overclocking on a motherboard that in itself is already a fire hazard and then with the capacitors and the very very shady vrms but it turned out better then expected 😂
Just stick to the Intel Xeon E5-2678 V3 Turbo Unlock Mod Huanzchi X99-AD3 $100 Intel Xeon E5-2678 V3 $90 Turbo Unlock Mod Beats my AMD Ryzen 7 2700X $150 and X370 $100 in multitasking and in some games. I definitely don’t recommend AMD Ryzen 7 1700 at all.
Well, X99 would have been more fun if Intel hadn't locked down much of their Xeon lineup. As I faced quite some issues on AM4 and had a crappy sample of a Ryzen 2600, my new 2678 V3 system was more fun to tinker with, performs better and cost for CPU + mainboard was about the same in Germany. Considering that I can run that CPU with cheap DDR3-ECC memory, the overall costs would have been even better. AM4 still has some benefits, e.g. the better upgrade path but I don't miss it as AM5 is around the corner anyway and maybe that future platform will be worth the wait, when the prices come down to reasonable levels.
Wow, excellent video! I have watched a lot of youtubers content on these xeon builds using various mobos and while its an interesting concept I live in America and have access to new parts its just not worth it for me. I have consistently made the argument that you are sacrificing warranties, modern instruction sets, and reliability to save a couple bucks on used parts or parts from questionable manufacturers. Old whats his face at Tech yes city constantly pushes the xeon/intel brand regardless of the performance gap. Its a nice change of pace to have someone who is straight forward and unbiased in there reviews, thanks for being you.
@@Mr64Gamecubefan Yes, exactly 100%. I live in America so for me it is not cost effective. If I lived anywhere else I would probably be running a similar setup.
I've noticed that every video showing successful X99-F8 overclocking has the 2019 BIOS. I've tried a couple newer ones (8/17/2020, 06/06/2022) and the E5-1650 V3 on it tops out at 3.8 GHz using XTU. This is with or without TDP adjusted in the BIOS as described in this video. If overclocking features are enabled in the BIOS it won't post even if nothing is modified. Any idea where the 2019 BIOS can be found? The only place I found that even mentioned it was a Chinese site that opened a pop up when download was picked that couldn't be translated.
Great videos! I'm amalgamating my UNRAID server with my gaming desktop, and actually about to swap out my Ryzen 5 2600, for one of these boards and a Xeon E5 2678v3 for the 24 threads. I'll have to do this for the all core turbo unlock. I've checked out a lot of benchmarks, and it doesn't seem like I'm going to lose any performance at all between 1080p and 1440p gaming. I figure 4 threads for UNRAID, and the remaining 20 for gaming VM's. I almost feel crazy considering it, but to be honest, a hell of a lot cheaper than a Threadripper or new Ryzen 9 setup without downgrading, considering I live in a market where we have access to everything. Thanks for the upload. I wonder if you still have this machine running?
love all your videos . the craft beer scene is good here in manchester uk. i discovered "gose" style sour fruit beers - they are amazing. obviously not for everyone. ive had two plain ryzen 3600 cpus and run them on b450 and x570 - its a great chip. totally recommended. currently have a 3900x - but if truth be told the 3600 does everything i need. my opinion on older stuff is as soon as intel hit 22nm - the chips were just great. so my cutoof is 22nm - and newer yes please 32nm and older - no thanks
It would be awesome if you would feature me in a video after the pandemic settles! Maybe like a speed build thing sort of like beer pong meets pc building etc. Let me know if you'd like to discuss this! I'm located in Portland. Hope all is well in your neck of the woods with the fires and all. And of course, keep making top notch videos, Jeff!
@@80pinguoinikator Got to the second x299 Mobo (Designare 10, FTW -K) to find out my "bargain" 7960x was D.O.A. I think Cheapen out Got me :( The bench scores don't lie anything less than 10980xe seems like a compromise.. The 10G will be pretty future proof then.
The 2697v4 was smooth with the Corsair CMK128GX4M8B3000C16 at 2400. The 16Gb CMK16GX4M4A2133C13 at 2400 does well in Bench scores about 700 behind AMD 1950x now at 3.6 Turbo.
@@dickslinger9925 Sorry for your 7960x, personnally i'm just on a 7820x, 4000c16 on a meg creator and it's damn ggod just sad that my cpu ain't that good, 49@1280mv and 50@1350 direct die cooling
Your conclusion needs an update for 2021. Ryzen CPUs are so expensive now that neither setup is worth the upgrade. Just keep what you have until price-gauging loosens up.
Hi, i have a x99-f8 with a e5 2678 v3(CPU-Z stepping 2), i did the turbo boost unlock and im still stuck with the rated TDP, i did what you show in the video but it doesn't work, what should i do?
I have an i7-6950X in a HP Z440 at the moment (not officially supported but fully working with ECC memory) and I want to move it into a used gaming case with a 360mm AIO cooler to improve thermals/noise and play with some overclocking. Not sure whether to try this motherboard with the BIOS mod or pay double for a used ASUS Rampage V Edition 10 or similar. I heard plenty of stories of the old X99 boards dying and taking out CPUs on their way. Any recommendations for the best motherboard (known used or Chinese new) to use with the 6950x?
Last year I spent a small fortune mucking around with Xeon's... Bought like ten of them and multiple motherboards from Aliexpress to play around with..... It was fun and annoying at the same time.....My favourite budget system that can be bought from anywhere is a 3500x on a a320.... You can get a full blown gaming system up and running that can play any game for £300 ! ---- (THAT HAS A DECENT UPGRADE PATH!)
Hey everyone, Jeff is uppig the power limit to 2048 at 4:20 but can you up the limit with an locked xeon too? that would mean that the turbo core exploit would work even better due to the cpu not running out of power
i tried the same exact config with my dual E5 2697 V3 - 14cores/28threads (145W TDP) but nothing happened. Still running at same 3.6Ghz turbo unlock speed. Can you help me what do i lack on the BIOS config please?
An actual good value would be the 12 core xeon with the all core boost unlocked and the tdp limit removed, then you would get 12 cores running at 3.3 ghz for only 95 dollars, or maybe the 8 core one that goes to 3.4 for around 45 or 50 dollars. If you get instead the ones compatible with ddr3 then the value goes even higher. I ordered myself one of those motherboards with the cheapest v3 xeon at the moment, the e5-2630l v3 wich is an 8 core part with a max turbo boost of 2.9 ghz, nothing too special but is still better than most xeons without the all core unlock mod making it a really good option in my opinion to experiment with the platform and also get some decent performance out of it.
Hi, did you manage to get it working at the all-core turbo all the time? my 2680v3 boosts to 3.3 and stays there for about a minute before throttling down, I suspected tdp limitations but the steps in this video changed nothing do you have an idea?
@@user-su4mt1zb1q So far the all core turbo works, i am still looking into unlocking the tdp but for this chip that only gives me 200mhz extra so its not a big priority for me
180w is not 4.2ghz at 1.25 your score shows. On TF board 1660 4.2 1.2 pulls 280w+ Your tdp unlock didn’t work but made you think it did. Your likely running at 3.6-3.8 ghz in benchmarks based on your 20% improvements
Hey guys, what's a decent cheap build for a x99 mobo that can OC with 16gb ram? Looking to max out Lol on 1080p but mostly for work. Budget is minimal.
So by buddy was going to be selling his x99 asus rampage/ i7-5820k to me, and i got a question. Do you think its wise to put it in my main system. I don't intend on cpu swapping till im due for a whole new platform, and currently i'm rocking the r5 2600. The reason i considered swapping is because, from what i can see the i7 will overclock better than my r5, and they have similar performance. Another reason being that i don't just game, i edit footage from time to time. I eventually especially want to do 4k work, and i'll be able to put more ram on the motherboard.
I've tested a 4.4GHz 5820k directly to a 2600. The 2600 will be faster than a moderately overclocked 5820k and draw half the power. Keep the Ryzen system as your main.
When I start the pc I hear a long beep followed by five short beeps, the pc turns on and the peripherals also do not give a signal, what is my problem?
No. Only the 1600 series V1, V2, and V3 have unlocked multipliers. You can override the turbo to get an all core boost to whatever the max turbo of the chip is. And you can do BCLK OCing, but be careful how high you put the clock. Max for the CPU varies between 103-107MHz. Also, PCI-e devices don't like anything over 100MHz, so that has to be considered as well. I am currently running the E5-1680-V2 on an EVGA X79 DARK, at 4.7GHz all core @1.335v. It will hit 5GHz all core at 1.385v, but it is not too stable. Water cooling is a must, even at 4.7GHz.
Hello I have the same system running both cpus are visible in BIOS however when I check from task manager and CPUz I can see only 1 socket running. Any way to fix this issue. Much appreciated ps when I run benchmark I see one cpu
Yeah, buying new X99 + DDR4 from AliExpress can get so expensive given the options that it is hard to justify unless you get a steal on a lot of cores and that's all you need, lots of slower cores. The 2400G though, I have built a couple, one with 3600CL15 even, and they're sorta doggy. Have yet to be impressed with any of the Ryzen APUs, they seem to lag so much behind the regular Ryzens due to cut cache. Was excited about Zen2 APU, but they are naff. Bargain wise, I've found the Lenovo S30 41xx I think it is, to be truly ridiculous deals provided you are patient and have access to eBay. I built out my son an E5-1660 v2, 32GB Quad Channel DDR3-1600 (DDR4-3200 bandwidth but with CL9 lol), 610W 80+ Gold AcBel PSU w/dual PCIe power connectors, Win7P License that activates Win10P, all for $150 in a super sturdy case. And with XMP, it overclocks lol. With the stock HSF it runs best at about 4.2 all core (6C/12T), but the socket is normal and you can totally re-case the mobo into a regular case, which is what I ended up doing so it would be wide enough to fit my old 212+ HSF for him and bump it to 4.4 all core. It's better at gaming than a spare 2600X Ryzen with 32GB DDR4-3000 with the same GPU. The value comparison is off the charts. $150 for what it was, E5-1660v2, X79 mobo, 32GB, 610W, Case, Windows License, DVDRW. All I had to do initially was add a GPU for him, and move the HDD, I think it was a 3TB, to secondary duty after loading Win10 using the 7 Pro license onto a cheap 500GB SSD I got for him. S75 GTX 970, $50 500SSD, around $300 for a total PC when building even a new i5 or Ryzen 3100 PC would cost far, far, far more, even if you use cheapo components and a naff $50 case.
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where sir did you get that beer? That shock wheat is a beer with the mascot of the team in the city i live in. Are you a local, or was it sent to you ect?
Haha, that was sent to me by someone in Kansas.
Yay another x99 board video! I think I love these a little too much
It's never to much
So in conclusion: Works but only worth it if you are stealing power from your neighbor. 🙂
How many people have been triggered over the radiator setup? ;)
Way too many.
@Dat Boii It is not about looks, it is about functionality
What radiator?
What's wrong
Omg I was bitting my nails and shaking my leg the whole time!
LMAO I died at the LaCroix of wheat ales 🤣
Finally! The video I have been waiting for. I have considered grabbing a similar combo for a while but was hesitant because of the O/C issues. Now that we have an answer my interest has been piqued again. Thank you and keep up the great work 🙂
You should check out quad opteron motherboards
@Mad Rabbit they suck.... power ;)
This has been a fun trip and glad you got to give all her all she had under the hood.
Thank you! This reassured me, I just ordered a Ryzen 7 1700 a week ago. I was previously considering a Xeon processor and was worried if I made the right choice.
Oh man, those Ryzens from Aliexpress sure seem like the best bang for buck currently, if we talk higher end of things. Although I built my own system around 1650v2, because there are really cheap combo options (mobo+cpu+ram) on Ali. So I'd say either option is very good, it's just I didn't really need that extra performance for additional price - decided I'd rather spend the money on a better graphics card. I'll get a Ryzen if I decide to upgrade :3
Your price comparisons to newer parts at the end was on point.
Great way to get the most out of older equipment if you already own, but always looking at the big picture.
I would actually suggest the E5 2678v3 over this chip, its an 87 dollar 12 core 24 thread chip that can be turbo hacked to 3.3ghz all core. When comparing it to say a 2700 it has more memory bandwidth and performs better in all core workloads, such as blender, file compression/decompression, and supports ddr3 and ddr4, thus the Huananzhi x99 TF's existence (but I have the F8 for the 8 dimm ddr4 memory support). It may fall behind in gaming marginally, but overall is not a terrible experience. I have this exact chip with some really killer memory and a vega 56 flashed to a frontier edition.
I know that chip well. I did a video on an ES version of that CPU a couple months ago, and I ran one in my workstation back in 2016.
@@CraftComputing nice. Also one to look out for is the 2696v3, as it also supported ddr3 and is an "unofficial" 2011-3 server chip. I have a friend who has 2 of them in a dual socket jingsha system with 128gb ddr3 2133 cl9 in 8 channel (4 per cpu)
He spent 217 bucks a pop on them
@@KadiusFTW Aye, both the 2678 V3 and the 2696 v3 are very interesting for a workstation/gaming machine. I run nearly the same setup like you [only flashed my Vega 56 to a Vega 64] and it serves me very well so far since June. The quality of the Huananzhi X99-TF is outstanding for a Chinese board (albeit you have to mod it to get the most out of it, but it was a great learning experience and there are a lot of great tutorials on the web which make it easy). Have you found a way to disable the onboard speaker? That is the only annoyance which drives me crazy (fingers crossed that the two active coolers on the board won't die that soon).
@@seylaw there is an option in the bios that is hidden, you need to activate it with the ami bios tool. Also, you can buy more of those fans for this board off of ali for 2 bucks a pop
@@CraftComputing Can the same thing be done on the E5 2678v3?
You complicated it big time!! Intel xtu lets you set current and power limits on the fly. Even though i like overclocking though bios the flexibility of xtu is incredible.
Nice to watch someone not doing a video about NVIDIA cards.
This is where I'd put my 3080
IF I HAD ONE!!!
In Brazil, you pay double (sometime triple) the price in new/branded hardware. Those chinese x99 are a sweet sweet option.
What about customs? In Serbia, Customs will rip your skin off with pumped taxes if you order something enough expensive like this motherboard...
Nice save. Glad you got all sorted out on this mobo. keep these type of content coming.
Thanks for the video! I think the only advantage to these Chinese server motherboards to users in the west would be that server RAM is still somewhat cheaper than the comparable desktop RAM, and that on a lot of these Chinese motherboards also can handle more memory per slot, plus more slots. If you needed something that memory intensive, it might still make a little sense.
Long story short - conclusion explains everything. :)
Thanks Jeff!
🤣 I'm from Wichita, your description of the WBC Wheat had me actually laughing out loud.
Go with this bad boy....I use this in my daily! E5 2678v3
Did you or can you overclock the 2678?
Also, you can unlock BCLK overclocking for Xeons e5-26xx v3.
how?
Yes how!?
Thank you for your time and dedication to bring us this solid content. truly great stuff keep it up.
Do the x58 version with an X5680!!!
X5680 is alright. It's my favorite X58 cpu for value. Mine tops out around 105x in cinebench R15 with a 4.5GHZ OC and 18xx on ram in triple channel. Not bad but hard to compete with ryzen price/performance.
@@MrBonesawzall how 5680 can be best for value where u can get same oc on 5650 xd.
@@96Bialy It runs some 700 mhz higher even when not overclocked for enhanced stability in my vm machine. It was worth the extra $15 - $20.
Can we write the bios file on huananzhi x99 dual-f8d? If so, can you share the bios parts?
Thanks for the video! I may have missed it, but what case is thus? It looks great. The Deepcool Macube 550 BK doesn't look the same.
I think the E5 2640v3 with the turbo unlock is still a decent value on a motherboard such as this. They run about $50 ebay a E5 2620v3 is another budget alternative for $20
Are you playing ping-pog with Tech YES City?
I'm running a 2620 V3 + cheap X99 board, I choose these because together they were cheaper than a used Ryzen 3 where I live.
In my case, I can chose the X99 or a ryzen 3 but I like more the X99 becuase it has more cores and in the future that could be necessary.
@@kevinv.c2998 those cores are slower thou,and my experience Jãs been quite buggy.
If you can afford entry level AM4, I say go for it
Does it perform slow?
@@kevinv.c2998 sleep function is problematic some times, builtin audio is horrible, UEFI support for GPUs are hit or miss (miss on my case, so my RX5500 XT doesnt give video during bios or windows installation, luckly I use linux which does give video). VRMs run hot even with a fan on it.
Performance is acceptable, around Ryzen 3 performance in games, better in productivity for my 2620 V3.
Apperentely it has some problems.
I have a E5-2678v3 with turbo boost unlock and my friend has a Ryzen 5 3600 and we both are using the same aircooler (Coolermaster T4) and paste, but my xeon is cooler than his ryzen at full workload in Prime95. We dont understand this. Maybe because die size? 77mm² vs 661mm² so heat can spread better?
yep, ryzen cliplets are pretty dense
Question: what BIOS have you used as a base for this modification? Or you modified the existing one?
imo the low cost ddr3 setups are where it's at, an 2689+ram+mobo can be had for ~130 bucks
lol, in Russia we overclock them like for a couple of years already! 2678v3 is top money\performance
How about a dual x99 with 2x 2690v3's... Would it be WORTH it, for 24-cores and 48 threads?
Yeah but you can't overclock but you could force boost speed for all cores so instead of a single core boosting to 3.5 ghz all cores would
i got a xeon e5-1660 v3 on a gigabyte x99 ultra gaming...was able to hit 4.5ghz at the same exact 1.28 volts...paired with my GTX Titan Xp (2017) and its quite the gaming system
was good to see you highlite the power differences vs more modern amd - this will continue to grow is another point to note as well - great you were able to get it optimized #braver souls
pls do something aimed at discount smb - whatever is going to give smb bast bang for buck - maybe r730xd? way better than a 720 - also do some nvme arrays for db perf? do a 100g or 40g nic and just connect direct to other boxes w/o an expensive switch? lastly not leastly do whatever you want to do - test out how much diff cache server makes (only static content) #nat in 4 steps #siege #apache bench #reverse caching proxy #nginx-full
These are really interesting, and great for messing around with. Also great the older parts could get some use instead of going to waste. They don't make much sense in the UK now though. They are just too expensive compared to older Ryzen.
Have to disagree. Even the low end 5820k will beat 2800x or lower in just about any workload, especially gaming. Even for the odd highly multi threaded task that isnt ram dependent their cinebench scores arent far apart.
With quad channel ddr4 they can reach speeds any consumer zen+ chip can only dream of. My 5930k scores 50-55ns on the aida64 latency benchmark compared to 80ns+ on any zen+ chip i've ever touched.
i would add my perspective and say that they are not as interesting to people because they are in direct challenge against new chip and for the second hand market am4 board are far cheaper and not chinese branded.
Hi! This is some great content you have here, I'd like to throw in some of my experiences with X99.
I run a 1660 v3 myself, I bought this as a brand new tray processor. It was produced in 2018 with batch# J821E556 (I didn't know they continued producing these 22nm dinosaurs this recently!)
Mine overclocks better than yours (achieves up to 4.5 stable in Realbench) but isn't great compared to the better 5960X's out there, from early 2015 onwards, with a stable 4.6 not being too uncommon and 4.7 being achieved by some, under 1.35v. The AVX offset, which I'd love to have, only works on Broadwell CPUs with X99 and that option doesn't appear at all on my Asus Strix X99, but will do if I had a Broadwell-E processor installed.
My daily driver with this chip is 4.40 GHz at Auto voltage, which sets 1.31v adaptive.
I was having the opposite issue with power consumption than you were lol, with me unable to limit power consumption on my chip to prevent it degrading in a worst case scenario. I tried to set the "Short Duration Power Limit" and "Long Duration Power Limit" to 250W and 200W respectively, but that did nothing, still exceeding 300W in AVX Prime (which I only ran for a few seconds to test this) If you happen to know whether I can get this to work via a setting that I am missing or something, that'd be great.
In terms of real world performance I think you are underestimating these, my personal findings include that I didn't even need to overclock this to it's full potential to match a Ryzen 7 3700X (which I had but sold shortly after deciding I could happily keep an X99 system as my personal machine) in some games, as long as I just kept the RAM tweaked. Overclocking the CPU allows it to exceed the performance of a 3rd gen Ryzen in most cases when gaming, in some games by a larger margin than in others.
I ordered an RTX 3080 last month which should hopefully be here by mid-November, I'll happily test some more games in a purely CPU bound situation with the new card. The Ryzens are still more efficient however and more well rounded, and them not needing to be overclocked to reach ~full potential, including smart clock speed adjustment based on workload, voltage, temperature, power etc. is a great plus for the vast majority of users. As I type this, AMD may be revealing some new awesome Ryzen 5000 series CPUs in under an hour! xD Motherboard compatibility is also another big plus for Ryzen ofc.
I hope you read my comment, thanks!
The problem is that they are using the worst x99 boards that every existed. I have a asus deluxe x99 with a 5960x, overclocked at 4.6(uncore at 4000, and 32gb of DDR4 at 3200 T1) with 1.32v since 2015.. is used every day, to play games.
@@pedroferrr1412 Good to hear that you have not had any degradation running at 1.32v for 5+ years now... my X99 Strix board should be similar to yours for OCing as much of the power delivery is the same as far as I'm aware. Should be a lot better than the cheapest ones you can find.
Kinda wish I had a slightly better sample and some Samsung B-Die or dual rank E-Die RAM lol, but I'm pretty fine with my setup as it is.
Been debating trying to OC my Asus X99 Deluxe w/ E5-1650v3 but its currently being used for TrueNAS, once I move and get a rack to use for TrueNAS I might try it out..
But you got decent results with a 1660 and Chinese MB!
in some cases (or all), if you have an avx offset and a program is utilizing one cpu core, the entire cpu will downclock to that avx offset, regardless if the other cores are in use or idle. better find a balance and have no offset
It's been 2 years, the cost of V4 cpus is so low would be interesting to see a cost comparison again
I'd love for you to make a video about the somewhat rare Intel i7-5775C CPU! I think it would make a pretty interesting video!
Keep up the great work, Jeff!
i dont know at your location but here in France it's quite the expensive cpu
I like watching the video cuts and the beer going down in his glass...
I agree, I live just south of Wichita and had that brew, very disappointing.
overlcocking with a x99 chinise board not ideal and worth it, those boards are great at using huge amount of cores at low
frequencies and huge amount of Ram ideal for heavy computing tasks. unlocking turbo boost and paring with a decent graphics card makes then a decent gaming machine. using then for workloads makes them a budget work beast for you renderings and projects.
I must say you have nerves of steal overclocking on a motherboard that in itself is already a fire hazard and then with the capacitors and the very very shady vrms but it turned out better then expected 😂
Please do a video on how to check your x99 bios for malware/spyware
Yes, but you had some fun playing around!!!!
Just stick to the Intel Xeon E5-2678 V3 Turbo Unlock Mod
Huanzchi X99-AD3 $100
Intel Xeon E5-2678 V3 $90
Turbo Unlock Mod
Beats my AMD Ryzen 7 2700X $150 and X370 $100 in multitasking and in some games. I definitely don’t recommend AMD Ryzen 7 1700 at all.
Sorry if the question is stupid for the most of you... Is it basically gonna work on any x99 board? I've already bought a machinist dual cpu
Well, X99 would have been more fun if Intel hadn't locked down much of their Xeon lineup. As I faced quite some issues on AM4 and had a crappy sample of a Ryzen 2600, my new 2678 V3 system was more fun to tinker with, performs better and cost for CPU + mainboard was about the same in Germany. Considering that I can run that CPU with cheap DDR3-ECC memory, the overall costs would have been even better. AM4 still has some benefits, e.g. the better upgrade path but I don't miss it as AM5 is around the corner anyway and maybe that future platform will be worth the wait, when the prices come down to reasonable levels.
Wow, excellent video! I have watched a lot of youtubers content on these xeon builds using various mobos and while its an interesting concept I live in America and have access to new parts its just not worth it for me. I have consistently made the argument that you are sacrificing warranties, modern instruction sets, and reliability to save a couple bucks on used parts or parts from questionable manufacturers. Old whats his face at Tech yes city constantly pushes the xeon/intel brand regardless of the performance gap. Its a nice change of pace to have someone who is straight forward and unbiased in there reviews, thanks for being you.
I live in Latin America is very worth it to buy one of those combos here
@@Mr64Gamecubefan Yes, exactly 100%. I live in America so for me it is not cost effective. If I lived anywhere else I would probably be running a similar setup.
I’ve done everything but I get an error code 19
I’ve got an i7 5960x
There is no overclocking feature menu...
I like your channel very much and it gives a lot of information
I wanna oc my xeon 2699v4. But need to put it in my mechanist board
I've noticed that every video showing successful X99-F8 overclocking has the 2019 BIOS. I've tried a couple newer ones (8/17/2020, 06/06/2022) and the E5-1650 V3 on it tops out at 3.8 GHz using XTU. This is with or without TDP adjusted in the BIOS as described in this video. If overclocking features are enabled in the BIOS it won't post even if nothing is modified. Any idea where the 2019 BIOS can be found? The only place I found that even mentioned it was a Chinese site that opened a pop up when download was picked that couldn't be translated.
Great videos! I'm amalgamating my UNRAID server with my gaming desktop, and actually about to swap out my Ryzen 5 2600, for one of these boards and a Xeon E5 2678v3 for the 24 threads. I'll have to do this for the all core turbo unlock. I've checked out a lot of benchmarks, and it doesn't seem like I'm going to lose any performance at all between 1080p and 1440p gaming. I figure 4 threads for UNRAID, and the remaining 20 for gaming VM's. I almost feel crazy considering it, but to be honest, a hell of a lot cheaper than a Threadripper or new Ryzen 9 setup without downgrading, considering I live in a market where we have access to everything.
Thanks for the upload. I wonder if you still have this machine running?
love all your videos . the craft beer scene is good here in manchester uk. i discovered "gose" style sour fruit beers - they are amazing. obviously not for everyone. ive had two plain ryzen 3600 cpus and run them on b450 and x570 - its a great chip. totally recommended. currently have a 3900x - but if truth be told the 3600 does everything i need. my opinion on older stuff is as soon as intel hit 22nm - the chips were just great. so my cutoof is 22nm - and newer yes please 32nm and older - no thanks
hi, is the bios that have flashed is for all motherboard brand? or its for x99 only?
It would be awesome if you would feature me in a video after the pandemic settles! Maybe like a speed build thing sort of like beer pong meets pc building etc. Let me know if you'd like to discuss this! I'm located in Portland. Hope all is well in your neck of the woods with the fires and all. And of course, keep making top notch videos, Jeff!
maybe when I finish my x299 I will have the courage to O.C. my 2697v4 past 3.6
x299 is so easy to OC, don't bother procrastinating, which cpu do you have? delidded one? which board too? some can't be bothered by OC.
@@80pinguoinikator Got to the second x299 Mobo (Designare 10, FTW -K) to find out my "bargain" 7960x was D.O.A. I think Cheapen out Got me :( The bench scores don't lie anything less than 10980xe seems like a compromise.. The 10G will be pretty future proof then.
The 2697v4 was smooth with the Corsair CMK128GX4M8B3000C16 at 2400. The 16Gb CMK16GX4M4A2133C13 at 2400 does well in Bench scores about 700 behind AMD 1950x now at 3.6 Turbo.
@@dickslinger9925 Sorry for your 7960x, personnally i'm just on a 7820x, 4000c16 on a meg creator and it's damn ggod just sad that my cpu ain't that good, 49@1280mv and 50@1350 direct die cooling
Your conclusion needs an update for 2021. Ryzen CPUs are so expensive now that neither setup is worth the upgrade. Just keep what you have until price-gauging loosens up.
Hi, i have a x99-f8 with a e5 2678 v3(CPU-Z stepping 2), i did the turbo boost unlock and im still stuck with the rated TDP, i did what you show in the video but it doesn't work, what should i do?
Only on xeon 1600 cpus and intel core it works others are locked cpus
I have an i7-6950X in a HP Z440 at the moment (not officially supported but fully working with ECC memory) and I want to move it into a used gaming case with a 360mm AIO cooler to improve thermals/noise and play with some overclocking. Not sure whether to try this motherboard with the BIOS mod or pay double for a used ASUS Rampage V Edition 10 or similar. I heard plenty of stories of the old X99 boards dying and taking out CPUs on their way. Any recommendations for the best motherboard (known used or Chinese new) to use with the 6950x?
Can you try a x58 Chinese board that supports ecc?
Hey does someone know if the HUANANZHI X99-F8 does have Crossfire Support?
Last year I spent a small fortune mucking around with Xeon's... Bought like ten of them and multiple motherboards from Aliexpress to play around with..... It was fun and annoying at the same time.....My favourite budget system that can be bought from anywhere is a 3500x on a a320.... You can get a full blown gaming system up and running that can play any game for £300 ! ---- (THAT HAS A DECENT UPGRADE PATH!)
Why a 3500 instead of 3600?
@@josephkarl7080 £60 cheaper !!! And performs the same in games ! Plus 65 tdp means a cool quiet computer! I'm very happy with mine !
@@paulchambers8033 just paid 175 for a 3600 on amazon... deal was very limited in time...
Hey everyone, Jeff is uppig the power limit to 2048 at 4:20 but can you up the limit with an locked xeon too? that would mean that the turbo core exploit would work even better due to the cpu not running out of power
I'm wondering the same thing, my 2678v3 is running at -30mv so it can hit its full 3.3GHz but in cinebench r20 it can only hit 3.1.
I'm missing the menu ppo curt cfg ctrl msr..... What do you suggest?
error bios code 19 after following this old tutorial. X99-FT with a xeon 1650v3.
Have you ever tried comparing Xeon E3s to their consumer counterpart. Ex. Xeon E3 1240v2 vs i7 3770
nice video please make video how to unlock z170 to use six core (8 gen) thanks ! im stuck with my gaming 7
i tried the same exact config with my dual E5 2697 V3 - 14cores/28threads (145W TDP) but nothing happened. Still running at same 3.6Ghz turbo unlock speed. Can you help me what do i lack on the BIOS config please?
Hola, mi PC no inicia después de hacer ese overclock, así que debo quitar la pila y dejarlo en reposo unos minutos
I'm really curious if a low-watt chip like an E5-2630L v3 or E5-2650L v3 would overclock better?
It will be worst in every respect.
Will this work with the Huananzhi X99-TF motherboard? I ask because I currently own that board and would really like to overclock my 2660 v3. Cheers!
only the 16xx v3 chips and the i7s are unlocked unfortunately
do you know why i dont have these options on my bios?
What gamerstorm case did you use for the build ?
What about the E5 2678v3 for 70 bucks? would be a much better deal right?
hi there ,can i use non ecc ram like corsair on x99 chinese motherboard?
An actual good value would be the 12 core xeon with the all core boost unlocked and the tdp limit removed, then you would get 12 cores running at 3.3 ghz for only 95 dollars, or maybe the 8 core one that goes to 3.4 for around 45 or 50 dollars. If you get instead the ones compatible with ddr3 then the value goes even higher.
I ordered myself one of those motherboards with the cheapest v3 xeon at the moment, the e5-2630l v3 wich is an 8 core part with a max turbo boost of 2.9 ghz, nothing too special but is still better than most xeons without the all core unlock mod making it a really good option in my opinion to experiment with the platform and also get some decent performance out of it.
Hi, did you manage to get it working at the all-core turbo all the time? my 2680v3 boosts to 3.3 and stays there for about a minute before throttling down, I suspected tdp limitations but the steps in this video changed nothing
do you have an idea?
@@user-su4mt1zb1q So far the all core turbo works, i am still looking into unlocking the tdp but for this chip that only gives me 200mhz extra so its not a big priority for me
Is this working with jingsha gt board ?
Hi I have same motherboard, and I got FF code before setting up win10. any suggestion to fix this FF code? Thanks
Did you try the e5-2680 with turbo boost and TDP unlocked ?
Hi! Excellent video!! Is this works on Xeon E5-2680v4 CPU + Huananzhi X99-F8?? Or It's only for V3 Xeon CPU? Thanks in advance!
Really thanks for your answer and help... See you!
this is exactly setup that I have and work well, but no overclock avaliable, sorry by my poor english! greetings from Spain.
180w is not 4.2ghz at 1.25 your score shows. On TF board 1660 4.2 1.2 pulls 280w+ Your tdp unlock didn’t work but made you think it did. Your likely running at 3.6-3.8 ghz in benchmarks based on your 20% improvements
Is the full torbo mod available on X79 chinise boards?
With ECC memory for an Xpenology Plex home server but wattage is bad for a 24/7 NAS.
Hey guys, what's a decent cheap build for a x99 mobo that can OC with 16gb ram? Looking to max out Lol on 1080p but mostly for work. Budget is minimal.
The water cooler is mounted wrong.
What's that keyboard you're using?
Did you try to setup raid 0 on sata 3 port?, i tried but i didn't get it.
What are you drinking?
So by buddy was going to be selling his x99 asus rampage/ i7-5820k to me, and i got a question. Do you think its wise to put it in my main system. I don't intend on cpu swapping till im due for a whole new platform, and currently i'm rocking the r5 2600. The reason i considered swapping is because, from what i can see the i7 will overclock better than my r5, and they have similar performance. Another reason being that i don't just game, i edit footage from time to time. I eventually especially want to do 4k work, and i'll be able to put more ram on the motherboard.
I've tested a 4.4GHz 5820k directly to a 2600. The 2600 will be faster than a moderately overclocked 5820k and draw half the power. Keep the Ryzen system as your main.
this mobo have VT-x intel virual in BIOS ?
When I start the pc I hear a long beep followed by five short beeps, the pc turns on and the peripherals also do not give a signal, what is my problem?
Check manual for your motherboard for error descriptions, and check what POST code you are getting.
Does the e5 2620v3 Haswell 6c 12t have an unlocked multiplier?
No. Only the 1600 series V1, V2, and V3 have unlocked multipliers. You can override the turbo to get an all core boost to whatever the max turbo of the chip is. And you can do BCLK OCing, but be careful how high you put the clock. Max for the CPU varies between 103-107MHz. Also, PCI-e devices don't like anything over 100MHz, so that has to be considered as well.
I am currently running the E5-1680-V2 on an EVGA X79 DARK, at 4.7GHz all core @1.335v. It will hit 5GHz all core at 1.385v, but it is not too stable. Water cooling is a must, even at 4.7GHz.
Hello I have the same system running both cpus are visible in BIOS however when I check from task manager and CPUz I can see only 1 socket running. Any way to fix this issue. Much appreciated ps when I run benchmark I see one cpu
If you're running Windows, Home edition will only see a single socket. You need Professional or higher for dual socket systems.
@@CraftComputing that was it . thank you so much
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works with xeon e5 2678v3? Thanks!
a platform? socket 462? or 939?
Yeah, buying new X99 + DDR4 from AliExpress can get so expensive given the options that it is hard to justify unless you get a steal on a lot of cores and that's all you need, lots of slower cores.
The 2400G though, I have built a couple, one with 3600CL15 even, and they're sorta doggy. Have yet to be impressed with any of the Ryzen APUs, they seem to lag so much behind the regular Ryzens due to cut cache. Was excited about Zen2 APU, but they are naff.
Bargain wise, I've found the Lenovo S30 41xx I think it is, to be truly ridiculous deals provided you are patient and have access to eBay. I built out my son an E5-1660 v2, 32GB Quad Channel DDR3-1600 (DDR4-3200 bandwidth but with CL9 lol), 610W 80+ Gold AcBel PSU w/dual PCIe power connectors, Win7P License that activates Win10P, all for $150 in a super sturdy case. And with XMP, it overclocks lol. With the stock HSF it runs best at about 4.2 all core (6C/12T), but the socket is normal and you can totally re-case the mobo into a regular case, which is what I ended up doing so it would be wide enough to fit my old 212+ HSF for him and bump it to 4.4 all core. It's better at gaming than a spare 2600X Ryzen with 32GB DDR4-3000 with the same GPU.
The value comparison is off the charts. $150 for what it was, E5-1660v2, X79 mobo, 32GB, 610W, Case, Windows License, DVDRW. All I had to do initially was add a GPU for him, and move the HDD, I think it was a 3TB, to secondary duty after loading Win10 using the 7 Pro license onto a cheap 500GB SSD I got for him. S75 GTX 970, $50 500SSD, around $300 for a total PC when building even a new i5 or Ryzen 3100 PC would cost far, far, far more, even if you use cheapo components and a naff $50 case.