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A Closer Look at House Tully & House Frey - S2, Ep 5 | House of the Dragon | HBO

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  • Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
  • Showrunner Ryan Condal, writer David Hancock, actor Matt Smith (Daemon Targaryen), and more explain the important role House Tully and House Frey play in helping the Black Council gain support in the Riverlands. Watch House of the Dragon S2 Sundays at 9PM on #StreamonMax.

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  • @BlackwoodSupremacy
    @BlackwoodSupremacy Месяц назад +464

    Guys, Walder Frey isn’t going to be born for another 79 years. Different time period, different Freys. Sabitha is actually pretty cool.

    • @ryankwon8785
      @ryankwon8785 Месяц назад +18

      If we know Tyland Lannister’s full history, different Lannisters.

    • @jeremiahooms4716
      @jeremiahooms4716 Месяц назад +6

      You’re a few centuries off

    • @mettinkaytaz6106
      @mettinkaytaz6106 Месяц назад +29

      ​@@jeremiahooms4716No, he right bud, Walder, by the time we got to see him was about 100 years old - and a dirty old man who bought his House's name down into the gutter because of his weasly antics, his heritage is quite different mind.

    • @BlackwoodSupremacy
      @BlackwoodSupremacy Месяц назад +18

      @@jeremiahooms4716 No my math is right. Dance of Dragon happened in 129 AC and Walder Frey was born in 208 AC

    • @jeremiahooms4716
      @jeremiahooms4716 Месяц назад +5

      @@BlackwoodSupremacy lol you’re right idk what I was thinking when I posted that

  • @MrDibara
    @MrDibara Месяц назад +111

    "The Freys have always been tough negotiators". Yup. Pretty on brand for the Lords who control THE most important passage between Riverlands and the North.

    • @支独秀
      @支独秀 Месяц назад

      their wealth and army are nothing in the presence of dragons

  • @Divine_Chareka
    @Divine_Chareka Месяц назад +81

    It's refreshing to see familiar Game of Thrones locations returning in the second season of House of the Dragon. The Twins being one of them, though it does bring back memories of the Red Wedding. Also the Eyre was stunning in this episode and I hope they show us Riverrun in this season as well.

    • @k-studio8112
      @k-studio8112 Месяц назад +5

      I hope they would also show us the Casterly Rock

  • @athenacheeks6937
    @athenacheeks6937 Месяц назад +110

    The Twins look so great on screen i felt like it was peel off the books and onto the screen

    • @user-ix1rp9ff3p
      @user-ix1rp9ff3p 28 дней назад +1

      missing that central tower in the middle of the bridge tho

  • @princejoseph8280
    @princejoseph8280 Месяц назад +15

    Jace has been the only one for Blacks to get anything done. He got the Freys and Starks on their side and came up with the idea of trying other Valeryans as dragon riders. Impressed with the young prince. And he listens to his mother although won’t always obey her lol!

  • @anthonyufert8477
    @anthonyufert8477 Месяц назад +90

    I really wish we could’ve seen Jace arriving or leaving on Vermax. We haven’t really seen him riding on dragonback. There’s the quick scene in s1ep10 but we couldn’t see it clearly.

    • @costco_pizza
      @costco_pizza Месяц назад +1

      @@anthonyufert8477 And would the son of this lord and lady of House Frey end up being Walder Frey? Are they Walder Frey’s parents?

    • @anthonyufert8477
      @anthonyufert8477 Месяц назад

      @@costco_pizza walder frey will not be born for another 80 years.

    • @dawoodkarim1227
      @dawoodkarim1227 Месяц назад +2

      I believe that would cost quite a bit even a little showing. They're probably trying to save everything for when they really need to go all out.

  • @michelm5072
    @michelm5072 Месяц назад +118

    Forrest Frey was rejected by Rhaenyra and still fought for her.
    I don't know whether to call him a man of honor or a fool.

    • @k-studio8112
      @k-studio8112 Месяц назад

      The only bitter a**h*le that was rejected by Rhaenyra was Crispy Kreme

    • @SuperPal-tr3go
      @SuperPal-tr3go Месяц назад +8

      Call him a simp.

    • @c0ronariu5
      @c0ronariu5 Месяц назад +32

      Call him an honourable man who isn’t an incel, unlike Cole

    • @costco_pizza
      @costco_pizza Месяц назад

      And would Walder Frey be born at this time ready to take over House Frey next?

    • @itspronouncednikolaj333
      @itspronouncednikolaj333 Месяц назад +1

      @@c0ronariu5Cole is an a-hole but not an incel

  • @philinn1703
    @philinn1703 Месяц назад +117

    RIP Sabitha Frey, you'll always be a legend

    • @TheJabady
      @TheJabady Месяц назад +1

      Who is she?

    • @honestlordcommissarbrighte7921
      @honestlordcommissarbrighte7921 Месяц назад +42

      ​@@TheJabadyOld female head of the Freys that declared for the Blacks after her husband died during the first battles for the Riverlands though she married into the Freys instead of being born as one. She fought in the war pretty much as a full blown combatant from its start to its end, retaking Harrenhal after Criston Cole began to retreat, she took in and fought with Rodrick Dustin and the Winter Wolves, rallied both House Frey and her blood kin, House Vyper and joined one of the Black dragon seeds, Addam of Hull, for the showdown at Second Tumbleton and joined the Lads (The young sons of old Tully (20?) and the 13 year old Benjicot Blackwood) on their march to Kings Landing at the end.
      After the war she ended up being a Riverlands version of the cupid and paired widows with Northerns who stayed south to repopulate the Riverlands. She also boned a Blackwood lady.
      She pretty alright for a married-in Frey.
      Oh and she also managed to evade Vhaegar during Aemond's attack on Harrenhal by hiding in the toilet and slipping away. Pretty fun mention Blood and Fire.

    • @percivaldarkus3537
      @percivaldarkus3537 Месяц назад

      @@honestlordcommissarbrighte7921 tranquilos, HBO no dejara pasar la oportunidad de un personaje tan "diverso", seguro es la nuera de estos Frey

    • @Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ
      @Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ Месяц назад +1

      ​@@percivaldarkus3537¿Qué quieres decir con diverso? Si literalmente, así es en el libro 🤨

    • @percivaldarkus3537
      @percivaldarkus3537 Месяц назад

      @@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ woke ¬_¬
      no quería ser grosero

  • @RC_Gaming_306
    @RC_Gaming_306 Месяц назад +115

    0:21 no Kermit Tully, his brother is set to be the lord of Riverrun

    • @fernandorivera4719
      @fernandorivera4719 Месяц назад +9

      The Lads HYPE

    • @joshuaevans6295
      @joshuaevans6295 Месяц назад +3

      Did Kermit get written out?

    • @RC_Gaming_306
      @RC_Gaming_306 Месяц назад +27

      @@joshuaevans6295 appears so, First they messed up Blood and Cheese by removing Maelor, then killed Elmo offscreen, now they deleted Kermit

    • @tozar1
      @tozar1 Месяц назад +25

      @@RC_Gaming_306 bloodbath on sesame street

    • @pprimeval11
      @pprimeval11 Месяц назад +35

      ​@@RC_Gaming_306 oh no, they're getting rid of useless tertiary characters!

  • @blazeblade761
    @blazeblade761 Месяц назад +28

    I hate how dirty they did the freys forest frey and his wife were such a chad duo during the dance my man got rejected by rhaenyra got dubbed fool frey and still uphold his oath and fought and died for his queen

  • @joec9693
    @joec9693 Месяц назад +8

    It's kinda hard to take the Tully's seriously once you realize they were all named for Muppets and Sesame Street Characters (Oscar the grouch, Kermit the Frog, Grover and while I'm not sure it's mentioned in the show yes there is a Lord Elmo Tully)

  • @theblackpearlofbraavos
    @theblackpearlofbraavos Месяц назад +5

    House Frey, before their "Walder Era".

  • @zaramel4694
    @zaramel4694 4 дня назад

    "The last one we saw" Ryan, I don’t need those kinds of flashbacks!!

  • @daenerystargaryen1440
    @daenerystargaryen1440 Месяц назад +24

    Sabitha Frey, you will be missed ❤

    • @TheJabady
      @TheJabady Месяц назад

      Who is she?

    • @SonderDAzeX
      @SonderDAzeX Месяц назад +4

      You mean her book ver? Cuz that is Sabitha Frey that Jace meets in this episode.

    • @ythandlename
      @ythandlename Месяц назад

      @@SonderDAzeX She seems older and they weren't named.

    • @SonderDAzeX
      @SonderDAzeX Месяц назад +6

      @@ythandlename They are older, but on IMDB they are listed Forest Frey and Sabitha Frey.

    • @costco_pizza
      @costco_pizza Месяц назад +1

      I don't understand? Why would we miss her when she is right here alive in this scene?

  • @iwanevans1404
    @iwanevans1404 28 дней назад +1

    The filming location for the Twins, was at Lake Vyrnwy dam in North Wales. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

  • @CaptainPikeachu
    @CaptainPikeachu Месяц назад +7

    No Kermit Tully, no Sabitha Frey, it’s sad that the show is taking out some of the coolest characters. HoTD is chicken shit in being scared of using Muppet Tully names proudly. I better be seeing some badass Tully and Frey action soon given they were some of the most loyal bannermen for Rhaenyra in the books.

    • @elykiapatchong3336
      @elykiapatchong3336 23 дня назад

      There names were ridiculous to begin with. That was the right choice😂

  • @stephen8805
    @stephen8805 Месяц назад +20

    Why did they cut out Elmo and Kermit Tully?

    • @SonderDAzeX
      @SonderDAzeX Месяц назад +22

      The names probably.

    • @WeirwoodNet
      @WeirwoodNet Месяц назад +19

      Because they have muppet show to do 😂😂

    • @SalaciousBCrumb-md3lk
      @SalaciousBCrumb-md3lk Месяц назад +10

      Because their names are Elmo and Kermit!

  • @TheJabady
    @TheJabady Месяц назад +11

    Is that Jace’s dragon, Vermax watching the negotiations with the Freys?

    • @k-studio8112
      @k-studio8112 Месяц назад +5

      Yes. The Freys were afraid of Vaghar that's why Jace promised them protection.

  • @zackundraus6980
    @zackundraus6980 Месяц назад +4

    Hello HBO, first of all a big thank you for continuing. At the same time, I watch Games of Thrones again from the beginning. ;-) It was a trip. Also thank you for that. I always ask myself one thing when watching the series, whether it would be possible for you to display the places graphically at the bottom right, so that you can understand everything even better. Thank you.

  • @nont18411
    @nont18411 Месяц назад +61

    “But…you didn’t slaughter every one of the Starks. No, no, that was your mistake. You should have ripped them all out root and stem.
    Leave one wolf alive and the sheeps are never safe.”
    - Totally not someone impersonating Walder Frey

  • @gentlerabbit6852
    @gentlerabbit6852 Месяц назад +2

    jace's drip is immaculate tho😅

  • @loganpriest115
    @loganpriest115 Месяц назад +151

    Never trust a Frey, I wouldn’t be surprised if they end up betraying Rhaenrya for Aegon and slaughter her Allies

    • @nadiaflores831
      @nadiaflores831 Месяц назад +17

      Jace made sure he drank while he treated with them

    • @apollosungod2819
      @apollosungod2819 Месяц назад +56

      Did you forget why Frey betrayed Robb Stark? Hah! Robb Stark had the audacity to come inside Frey's castle keep and bring his new beloved while all of Frey's daughters sat there, rejected...
      Meanwhile House Lannister offered them payment... I feel that was the key especially reviewing season 1 thus Frey did not technically betray, he was betrayed by the Starks.
      With Jace it might be different given that he is a dashing dragon rider and appears to look like a great warrior even if he is untested and rather young... so at least they did not try to force him into some marriage pact.

    • @dannyn6036
      @dannyn6036 Месяц назад +63

      Robb was an oath breaker, as long as Rhaenyra keeps her oath, the frey won’t betray her.

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 Месяц назад +12

      @@apollosungod2819 Chill out, Walder Frey.
      But yeah, the show made Robb dumber and more like a shortsighted horndog than in the books.

    • @Regenmacher175
      @Regenmacher175 Месяц назад +44

      However, part of ASOIAF is also recognising that people are individuals so the Freys who exist during one era are not the same Freys who exist in a different era.

  • @armelolsen2496
    @armelolsen2496 Месяц назад +5

    J'ai pas encore regarder l'épisode mais bon.. 😂😂
    J'ai hâte 🎉

  • @ryanallen1328
    @ryanallen1328 Месяц назад +37

    We want Sabitha Frey.

    • @CatotheE
      @CatotheE Месяц назад +1

      I’m Team Green, but same.

    • @SonderDAzeX
      @SonderDAzeX Месяц назад +5

      That is Sabitha Frey and Lord Forest Frey that Jace meets.

    • @uthorofthehightower3367
      @uthorofthehightower3367 Месяц назад +2

      @@SonderDAzeX In name only

    • @SonderDAzeX
      @SonderDAzeX Месяц назад +3

      @@uthorofthehightower3367 ok, still a Sabitha Frey.

    • @TheEnecca
      @TheEnecca Месяц назад +1

      Oh this is the beginning isnt it. Book purists are getting annoying (and i read all of them).

  • @Hyliea
    @Hyliea Месяц назад +7

    The greenscreen in the Jace riverland scene was bad. It looked worse than 2014 game of thrones.

  • @modest_spice6083
    @modest_spice6083 Месяц назад +3

    Where the damn is Kermit and Elmo? Where the hell is Sabitha Frey?

  • @Mike90317
    @Mike90317 Месяц назад +12

    Protect Lord Oscar Tully!

    • @lordtx90
      @lordtx90 Месяц назад +2

      Lol its his enemy who need protection.. The Lads Oscar and Kermit Tully + Bloody Benjicot Blackwood were one the baddest guys .. youngest yet fiercest

  • @Blablablabla-i8q
    @Blablablabla-i8q Месяц назад +16

    Is Ryan giving us a hint ? 😂

    • @masterplokoon8803
      @masterplokoon8803 Месяц назад +12

      No, the Freys of this time weren't even dishonourable and fought bravely for Rhaenyra but of course to him all houses are reduced to steriotypes rather than being composed of individuals.

  • @queenxx1690
    @queenxx1690 Месяц назад +4

    HOW Aemond tried to kill Aegon on eyes of 1000x soldiers and only Cole and Aemond know truth ? they should talk about it it was kin slaying and king saying the worse things you can do in Westeros and no one speak s about it when Jamie was touted for 7 season

    • @SuperCrow02
      @SuperCrow02 Месяц назад +3

      It was in the middle of a crazy dragon fight. There's plenty of room for plausible deniability. Plus Aegon is very much alive hence no Kinslaying occured.

  • @meow-sr2bl
    @meow-sr2bl Месяц назад

    Jace serving face as always

  • @aegorbittersteel2154
    @aegorbittersteel2154 Месяц назад +13

    HOUSE BRACKEN FOREVER!!!!
    But House Frey is underrated

  • @masterplokoon8803
    @masterplokoon8803 Месяц назад +43

    I don't get why they portray these Freys as dishonourable. They are much diferent than the ones in Walder Frey's time, they fought bravely for Rhaenyra in this war. I can't understand why they must be reduced to a steriotype based on Walder Frey who was born decades later. Also where the hell is Sabitha Frey?

    • @queenxx1690
      @queenxx1690 Месяц назад +1

      They did the same to Brackens because they wanted fight for Aegon last episode they called them cravens

    • @SuperCrow02
      @SuperCrow02 Месяц назад +6

      How are they dishonorable?

    • @TheEnecca
      @TheEnecca Месяц назад +6

      How are they dishonorable though? They had a very reasonable request. Good negotiators.

    • @zaja2418
      @zaja2418 Месяц назад +11

      @@queenxx1690 Nah, this episode actually portrayed the Brackens as pretty based. They looked into a dragon's eyes and said: 'Burn us, we don't care'. Uncommon Bracken W.

    • @Demotruk
      @Demotruk Месяц назад +1

      Isn't the woman in the scene Sabitha Frey?

  • @supertab365
    @supertab365 Месяц назад +2

    Why didn't they build second bridge all this time? 😂

  • @edgardominguez391
    @edgardominguez391 Месяц назад +9

    When were the Twins made?

    • @darj617
      @darj617 Месяц назад +13

      Before Aegon the Conqueror conquered Westeros.

    • @CatotheE
      @CatotheE Месяц назад +6

      Around 300 years before Aegons Conquest.

    • @theblackpearlofbraavos
      @theblackpearlofbraavos Месяц назад +1

      About 600 years give or take iirc. A Frey built a bridge with a single tower, started collecting toll fees = 💰💰💰
      The Freys are what modern people would describe as 'nouveau riche'. Rivermen with older houses and esteemed blood would describe them as 'upstarts'

    • @CatotheE
      @CatotheE Месяц назад +1

      @@theblackpearlofbraavos That just goes to show how snobby Westeros is though. Lol. A family that rose to prominence around 600 years ago is still seen as new money.

    • @theblackpearlofbraavos
      @theblackpearlofbraavos Месяц назад

      @@CatotheE LOL right? But I guess when you have a hyper-stratified class system with families boasting linages over 8000 years old, 600 years of toll collecting would seem like new money.

  • @JayJay-fw2jt
    @JayJay-fw2jt Месяц назад

    Love these videos

  • @NosimpNobeta
    @NosimpNobeta Месяц назад

    And here we are 2 king slayers😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @SHARKVADERS
    @SHARKVADERS Месяц назад +4

    G O T !!!!!

  • @justin219
    @justin219 Месяц назад

    Give me House Forrester

  • @esnoob2282
    @esnoob2282 Месяц назад +1

    question, why jace need to to convince the freys? when Daemon already negotiating all riverlands lords?

    • @TheUrobolos
      @TheUrobolos Месяц назад

      Well, Daemon at the moment cut all comunications and it's pretty much fighting a parallel war for his own goals, while pretending to serve Rhaenyra.
      The Freys are currently the only true team black house in the Riverlands

  • @wabbit6317
    @wabbit6317 Месяц назад

    House Frey?
    The North Remembers.

  • @mr.tobacco1708
    @mr.tobacco1708 27 дней назад +1

    Isn't Sabitha Frey supposed to be a bit younger?

  • @Kceam
    @Kceam Месяц назад +1

    Where Sabitha Frey?

  • @CooperDianeBob
    @CooperDianeBob Месяц назад +2

    Those better not be Forrest Frey and Sabitha

    • @SorceressWitch
      @SorceressWitch Месяц назад +1

      It's them, they've been made older in the show.

  • @antoniobentivoglio4488
    @antoniobentivoglio4488 14 дней назад

    It's absolutely not true House Tully is less powerful than its other subjects. What the fuck did they say??? Tullys are easily on the same league of Arryn of the Vale or Tyrells (second only to Stark/Lannisters/Baratheons).
    House Tully since the Targaryen conquest has always played a crucial role in balancing the Seven Kingdoms. One of the strongest castles, crucial location, huge army, richer than the Vale and the North, with a lot of powerful banners, great politicians, great soldiers. Lord Hoster Tully, proven to be as smart as Tywin, has been able even to extend his influence until the Vale and the north through powerful marriage alliances with the heir of Houses Stark and Arryn.
    The problem is about the riverlands which is the most difficult kingdom in Westeros to rule over.
    And only the fact Tullys managed to keep being the lords paramount of the riverlands says a lot.

  • @thekingzeye
    @thekingzeye Месяц назад

    But am I the only one who remembers the big ass dragon they showed at the end of season 1 as a teaser cause why is no one talking about it😭😭

    • @msherif428
      @msherif428 Месяц назад +1

      Vermithor will come into play soon. A character we've seen already will claim it and they will have a pivotal role in the story, so don't worry.

  • @CC-ii1sy
    @CC-ii1sy Месяц назад +1

    At least the Frey soldiers in this series don't have those dumbass looking hats.

  • @KK-fi6ms
    @KK-fi6ms Месяц назад +1

    BOOK SPOILER
    Isn't this Lady Frey supposed to be the rumored lover of Black Ally (future wife of Lord Stark)? Why is she an old woman? Why make such completely unnecessary changes?

    • @theblackpearlofbraavos
      @theblackpearlofbraavos Месяц назад

      I was surprised she was casted as older, too. Maybe she'll look different in mail **shrug**

    • @KK-fi6ms
      @KK-fi6ms Месяц назад

      @@theblackpearlofbraavos I would understand older. But this one is old. Geriatric.

    • @theblackpearlofbraavos
      @theblackpearlofbraavos Месяц назад

      @@KK-fi6ms both her and Forrest look older than I expected.

  • @tuffneggah
    @tuffneggah Месяц назад +7

    where's walder

    • @MenwithHill
      @MenwithHill Месяц назад +23

      He'll be born in 79 years (DoD starts in 129, he's born in 208)

    • @Mike90317
      @Mike90317 Месяц назад +9

      In the future.

    • @tozar1
      @tozar1 Месяц назад +10

      He's going to be a kid in future tv show Knight of the Seven Kingdoms

    • @heyitzLou
      @heyitzLou Месяц назад +2

      He’s not that old.

    • @MintakaSaiph
      @MintakaSaiph Месяц назад +2

      Incubating under the castle.

  • @naraneendeey
    @naraneendeey Месяц назад +3

  • @pabloolivera97
    @pabloolivera97 Месяц назад +1

    ME PODEIS EXPLICAR RYAN CONDAL PSEUDO PROTECTOR DEL CANON! Como coño haceis un cambio por la cara tan grande como MATAR A SUNFYRE? Es una auténtica locura!

    • @ArticWS
      @ArticWS Месяц назад +1

      No está muerto. Está moribundo. Es lo que significa lo que dice Criston.

    • @pabloolivera97
      @pabloolivera97 Месяц назад

      @@ArticWS Dice que ha dejado al Dragon muerto ahí luego Rhaenyra dice que Rhaenys luchó contra 2 dragones y mató a 1

    • @ArticWS
      @ArticWS Месяц назад +1

      @@pabloolivera97 Rhaenyra cree que Sunfyre está muerto. Cole dice "Sunfyre was long in the dying" así que lo dejaron ahí en Rook's Rest. "Long in the dying", no que está muerto. No sé si lo has visto doblado y lo han traducido mal o qué, pero en versión original al menos dicen que estaba moribundo cuando lo dejaron.

  • @81suze
    @81suze Месяц назад

    Arya Stark ended House Frey

  • @invoker7826
    @invoker7826 Месяц назад +6

    Why does the HOD feel like a cheap parody version of the GOT ?

    • @baronmunchausen645
      @baronmunchausen645 Месяц назад +6

      Because the story is nowhere near as engaging. This show is based on plain historical chronicles about the civil war, white GoT was based on novels with characters and plots hence why it felt more ‘alive’

    • @Regenmacher175
      @Regenmacher175 Месяц назад +12

      To you it might feel that way but it certainly does not to me. The cast is certainly smaller and the story is more straightforward: it's about a Targaryen civil war, that's it.

    • @baronmunchausen645
      @baronmunchausen645 Месяц назад +5

      @@Regenmacher175that’s the problem in my opinion. There’s no story here, it feels more like a streamline of events and representation of people involved in these events. GoT, at its best, was built around the characters and their stories.

    • @Regenmacher175
      @Regenmacher175 Месяц назад +5

      @@baronmunchausen645 I think both shows are excellent examples of character-based storytelling. The only difference is GOT had a larger world to present to the audience and a larger cast of characters. The Dance of the Dragons is a civil war as a result of which the Targaryens will be in decline.

    • @WeirwoodNet
      @WeirwoodNet Месяц назад

      Civil war that is over in few weeks in the books

  • @Cartman342
    @Cartman342 Месяц назад +1

    Boring episode

    • @TheEnecca
      @TheEnecca Месяц назад

      You will have bright colors to marvel at again soon enough.

    • @bonbonvegabon
      @bonbonvegabon 29 дней назад

      NO one cares fake fan

  • @sadieofficialreal
    @sadieofficialreal Месяц назад +2

    How am I supposed to know they're Freys if they don't have silly hats????

  • @chaos_knight_xy
    @chaos_knight_xy Месяц назад

    House Frey is based, and Robb Stark is overrated trash who deserved Red Wedding.