I do know valleys are actually known for having high winds compared to surrounding areas. Think it has to do with the same thing that causes the ground effect in F1 and pressure differences in planes to cause lift. Basic idea is that the geography causes a pressure difference that forces air into the region at high speed, and because of the walled in nature of the valley, the wind carries the speed through from 1 side of the valley to the other
Yep, by Bernoulli's Principle, if the flow gets constricted while the flow rate remains constant, the flow velocity must increase. Technically not exactly what Bernoulli's Principle says, but it's implied because of it.
Rimmy: "Why is it following me!" Also Rimmy: Moves his entire army in one, gigantic blob. Similar to how a fishing lure that looks like a whole school of fish will catch more, so, too, will a giant blob of tasty snacks that don't bother SPLITTING UP get devoured by Sandius Wormicus.
@@Omnomface It'd be neat if there was a "sand walk" toggle for fremen infantry that enabled them to avoid drawing sand worms' attention in exchange for reduced movement speed while it's active.
As far as I can see, moving your army as one has zero effect on the worm. It's just a random chance during battle. And you want to move your army as one to maximise DPS. By the end I figured out just to rush the village because the rocks prevent worm attacks.
Actually in the wiki it said due to energy armour creation the las weaponry just explodes the target due to reaction and make a huge nuclear explosion so i guess melee is safer in this universe
@@APineTree So, in Dune, many soldiers have personal shield generators that protect them from kinetic projectiles like bullets. But lasers trigger a catastrophic reaction when they strike the shield, typically resulting in a massive nuke-like detonation. The thing is, use of nuclear weaponry is universally forbidden in the Imperium - and the effects of the detonation are hard to distinguish from the use of nukes. So nobody wants to use laser weaponry against their enemies, no matter how potent, because they'd risk accidentally drawing all the Great Houses in to declaring open war on them and wiping them out. I'm pretty sure it's just a justification for why infantry commonly fight with melee weapons in the universe instead of just shooting the enemy, but as far as justifications go, it's a pretty cool one.
@@BaronVonHoovy Also im pretty sure the feedback also causes the laser weapon to detonate like a nuke as well. I think it was mentioned that sometimes lasers are aimed at shielded bunkers/ cities, and setup with timers so the attackers have a chance to gtfo.
@@AbyssWatcher745 Because there aren’t ranged units in Dune. Personal shielding tech is so good that even the most basic trooper is bulletproof. The only way to breach through shields is to move slowly into them, because shields still need to let air in. Thats why everyone uses swords even though Dune is set 10,000 years in the future, they had to develop a special combat style where you slow your attack as you reach the opponents shield. You could also use a laser I guess, but a) lasers in Dune are the opposite of 40k lasguns in that they’re super rare and expensive to maintain and b) shooting a shield with a laser will cause a nuclear reaction that would kill the shielded person, but also probably you too.
@@guccifer764 So... Couple of things wrong there: Lasers are actually not super rare and expensive, they're just not commonly used in infantry combat (they're mostly used in attacks on civilians or against vehicles that are too large to be shielded) because of that reaction with shields you mentioned (and the fact that atomic weapons, including weaponising that reaction between lasers and shields, are outlawed and will have the entire empire come down on you). And shields are actually relatively rare in combat on Arrakis, because active shields not only attract sandworms, but send them into a killing frenzy (because the electrostatic effect that shields work on mimics the sensation of another worm and when worms encounter each other in the wild, they fight each other to the death, except when they're being ridden by Fremen who have to actively keep them from killing each other and when the Fremen engage in mass troop movements involving multiple worms, the Fremen steering them usually have to stay on after dropping off the rest of the riders and steer them in opposite directions before releasing them to keep them from attacking each other right then and there). Which is why Arrakis is one of the few places in the universe of Dune where you *will* find mass ranged combat and lots of laser weapons, because shields are much more rare.
@@RvEijndhoven finally someone that understands that the shields drive worms into killing frenzy, the lasguns should work very efficiently in game but they don't.
I'd just like to say: Emperor: Battle for Dune had a flying unit that flew over a target, exploded, and then dropped a dude who ALSO exploded. I can't say the gameplay was well balanced, or that it was even a very good RTS, but Dune is a setting really begging for some weird units like that. Also, Sardaukar are something you can temporary buy with influence.
Didn't play much of Emperor, played a lot of Dune 2000 though and can say... that wasn't balanced completely either but still a fav of mine (RIP Westwood)
You can't buy Sardaukar in Dune Spice Wars as of yet. Once you are elected as the Jugde of the Council you can buy Landsraad Guards for influence, but they arent the same unit. Right now they share a model because the Sardaukar one is not done yet, I guess.
Valley Wind is common in locations where the sun heats and cool the mountains and valleys at different times. You get stronger winds in the valleys as the plateaus cool at night, the cooler air will flow down the cliffs into the valley, then come morning the now colder valley air will be warmed by th sun and will begin to move up the plateaus. And basically this happens throughout the day and night as the temperature difference of the air above and below the plateaus changes. Additionally, if the wind currents are flowing in a direction that passes the colder air through a valley, it will act like a funnel, increasing the air flow as the same amount of air tries to pass through a smaller space
For the wind it depends on the directionality of the wind and the shape of the valley. If the wind is blowing directly into the valley and the valley does not have many bands that would act as a wind break the valley could then funnel the wind into the valley creating an area where the air is forced into a funnel causing it to increase in velocity.
2:55 Seems like the wind is coming from down under (pun intended) the valley and not from above the hill/mountain. It probably accumulates at the rock site from the hill/mountain and stops there thus having less strength then previously.
God he'd love the game right now. Corrino is basically an entire faction built around going tall while playing everyone else against each other. Multiple ways to help other players under the table - all with ways for Corrino to profit directly - and abilities that allow them to send their armies far afield from their small territories means you jsut sit on your bases getting richer and richer while intervening in everyone elses squabbles to make sure none of the suckers win.
I think it’s fitting that the combat seems like the worst part of the game while the diplomacy and espionage is really well made. If you’ve read the books you’ll know its like 95% diplomacy and 5% actual fighting.
It is bad because this game isn’t a city builder or a game where you compete against someone else, you are directly fighting other factions as combatants.
The whole RTS/4x thing described in the intro reminds me of Sins of a Solar Empire. The map and combat look more reminiscent of Endless Legend, but a bit better.
Not really though, on Arrakis you can't wear shields other the worms go into a killing frenzy, the lasguns should work very efficient. However, if they did have shields, if the laser and shield made contact it would cause a subatomic explosion.
So I've tried out the game, and won as both Atreides and Fremen. My Atreides early-mid game was much harder than as the Fremen, and the only difference in settings was that the Fremen game was on a large map rather than medium. Theres a bit of replayability in trying each faction once, and trying to get the victory that they're sort of meant to get. Atreides have an easier start towards governor, Fremen towards domination (cause their units are stronger). I think the Harkonens have some spy stuff, etc. I'm really hoping for them to add other factions like we see in the Dune board game. The Emperor, the Bene Gesserit, maybe even the Spacer Guilds. I'm pretty confident that if they make it possible for the map to be larger and house more factions, as well as make Diplomacy a thing you can actually do (you can currently vaguely influence the other factions opinion towards you by trading, but as soon as they attack you it plummets pretty quickly) then replayability will be much better
also he moves them all in the same direction. the best idea is to starfish the fuck away from wormsigns, because then then you dont a a single huge target but multiple lesser.
Rimmy, all you need to do is watch the behind the scenes for LoTR to understand why a valley has strong wind. For those who can’t be arsed to watch the behind the scenes; the set for Endoras (Rohan’s capital) was built in a valley and it was super, super windy and constantly blew the set and actors down.
I'm excited for this. I mean, Dune II was the grandpappy of the modern RTS genre, so there's a lot of expectations riding on this title, even if it's not entirely fair.
2:52 Sailor with too much wind knoledge here. It's not unheard of for wind to be higher in valleys since the wind has to go around the mountains and gets funneled through the valley, the higher concentration of wind in the valley causes higher pressure casuing more wind.
It seems like a really good foundation of a game that can then be improved and expanded on. With some investment we could see a new wave of 4x RTS hybrids
Something bothers me about the way this game looks. The fact that it's based on a currently popular franchise, the cartoony look of the characters, the plain UI, the smooth, un-detailed terrain, the typos... it has the feel of a mobile game.
If they really want ranged units to work- they should make melee units have a 'sticky' feature- where if they engage in combat with enemies their movement is reduced like 90% in a very small radius near those enemies so it takes them a while to disengage.
I think I agree with Rimmy, it looks exciting, it would be an absolute blast to play a game or two of it... and then you pretty much played through whole thing. Sure, there will be nuances between playthroughs, but at best I can see it a guilty pleasure, you launch a game over a weekend, get through it and let the game sit on a shelf for next couple of days. This is one of few times they could go against the established lore and just invent more sides for the conflict, so that at least you'd have a reason to adapt to different opponents from game to game.
To be fair that's what their doing with the smugglers as they were not unified to be a major Faction in the books so I'm gonna assume they will add more Factions but most will most likely be Houses and maybe the Bene Gesuits could work as an independent Faction
Seems weird that Fremen units can get got by sandworms, since it's something that's made a specfic point of that the Fremen walk with a staggering arythmic gait specifically to not attract sandworms.
The Fremen can walk longer in the desert before a worm notices them (the game has a hidden stat called vibrations and Fremen generate fewer vibrations than outworlder facitons. The problem is that rimmy has his entire army moving together, and fighting, which generates a lot of noise.
Would be cool if they tried to take the approach that the Dune board game did. Every faction broke one rule that the others had to follow. It was done in a very flavorful and lore friendly way. Atriedes could see weapon cards during bidding, Harrkonnen got twice as many weapon cards and traitors, fremen were immune to worms and knew where the storms and spice would appear, etc. Each faction felt super unique. Great game design.
I can tell you right now, ranged units definitely have their place in the sun. It’s easy to say they suck though when they are fighting against Fremen who have better stats than all other units of their class. Atreides Gunners and Smuggler Snipers in decent proportions with some solid units to shield for them eviscerate units.
Yeah, but that is his point. Your solid units can't "shield" your ranged units because there is no zone of control or"sticky" engagement mechanic. Suffering one or two unanswered melee attacks as your attackers walk past will always be the correct answer, if the result is that you reduce the damage output of the ranged unit by 50% as soon as you make contact. And, if the ranged unit is more fragile than the melee unit (and it looks like they are), you'll eliminate it faster than you would the melee unit, so you will save yourself some extra damage there as well.
@@boosterh1113 so range units can engage from further away and thusly you'd keep the further back secondly both houses have heavy weapon units wich pin(slow) enemy units and even if you maneuver you melee units to attack range units another player can just move their range units. So the issu isn't a battle line its the fact the A.I can't micro
@@lordicewolfz a player moving their ranged units is losing. Units move at pretty much the same speed and the melee will just remain next to the ranged units tearing them to bits. Ranged units have some use but the lack of blocking makes them way worse than just bringing more melee.
Is this really a "problem", it's Dune, ranged weapons are *supposed* to be nerfed, they're only used in niche situations in Dune. -50% seems reasonable when all you've got are dart throwers and a shielded, armoured warrior with 2 short swords is rearranging your insides. After all, bullets can't breach shields, laser bolts cause nuclear detonations when they hit shields, it's all just poison darts now.
@@the_Kutonarch yes because video games are meant to be balanced. If ranged units are awful and bad with no reason to use them, then they're a waste of code, modelling time etc. People have to realise gameplay will always trump lore. Ranged units exist in this game and some factions make them more viable (exploiting the AI does too)
I just adore all the comments about how hur dur it's ok ranged weapons suck, it's in the lore, Dune has shields! Hey, 'lore experts' ? Remember the big taboo on Arakis? Shields ... drive the worms MAD. Feeding frenzy mad. And the vibrations they generate guarantee a worm attack in minutes. Meaning in the entirety of the Dune setting, Arrakis is the ONE PLACE where you CAN just bring the dakka with impunity because nobody is suicidal enough to being shields to a fight in the desert.
i mean more than anything people gotta remember that gameplay will always beat lore. no dev is ever gonna be like "shit bro I'm gonna code a whole new unit type into the game but because the lore says its bad I'm going to make it a completely worthless pick". No game is designed like that, at least intentionally. Instead they'd offset it with something else, like ranged being rare because of lore or maybe the opposite of ranged being cheap and shitty like a throwaway unit, but none of that applies to this game. It's just such a weird argument when they could just add unit blocking instead.
someone learning physics here, this is because of the law of convection cold air is more dense then hot air, thus making it heavier which means the valleys are colder then the hill tops when the ground heats up it also heats up the surrounding air forcing that hotter air to flow up, this forces the air on the hill tops that is cold to then flow down to fill up the gaps so yes valleys are more windy but i am sure there are other forces to play that cause this
4:35 Yeah espionage mechanics in strategy games usually come in one of two flavours. Either completely inconsequential, or completely over-powered. With very little in-between.
in the movie they have that shield that make ranged weapon completely useless, but short melee weapon aren't so it make sense that melee units are op in this game.
In the book, they explain the shields and the use of both melee and ranged weapons. Ranged combat is not completely phased out by the time of Dune, merely a hazard as the use of a shield makes the shooting of any projectile weapon that does NOT move at a slow speed useless. Lasers only work marginally better, destroying not only the shielded target but the shooter as well as the resonance of both generates a small-scale nuclear blast. Knives and swords can be slowed, making them perfect shield piercers. The problem is not getting stabbed by the same method you are doing. Ah the Empire... Such a civilized time!
A note on the combat, Ranged units can be really strong. The Atreides specifically get MASSIVE bonuses for attacking with a joint force including a lot of ranged units. Their rangers give all units a stacking buff that increases their damage by 5% and their melee troopers gain 10% damage for each buff they get from another unit. The real time option and ranged vs melee gives you the opportunity to micro manage battles, manually targeting individual enemies and splitting your army for maximum effect. You can also block enemy melee units with your own if you space them correctly and protect your ranged units. There's a lot of micro potential to win battles and take minimum casualties without overwhelming strength. I personally managed to defeat 2 melee enemies with 3 ranged units because I was using micro to kite the melee units, then attack them with the ranged units when possible. All the factions seem to have something to promote using a mixed army instead of just melee. The Atreides heavy weapons team also applies a 30% damage debuff to all enemies it hits with it's aoe attack and the other factions have something similar. Also the 2 houses have the option to use nukes.
@@billybob-zk9nm last night I had an epic battle with the smugglers as house Atreides. We both had airfields fairly close to the village I was besieging, so both sides were flying in reinforcements as they were produced. Overall, I lost 5 units to their 20 because I had a fairly strong range focused army with a few melee units that I mostly used as blockers.
@@billybob-zk9nm I used some tricks but with how armies in the game are designed, my method worked best. Destroying ranged units at -50% is godlike. I think I lost maybe 1 battle the whole game that wasn't sand worm related.
@@squashiejoshie200000 Yeah seems like other factions might have better ranged units and buffs etc, but blocking is not possible. It'll only work because you're facing the AI, who stops to fight you. In reality you can just run right through the enemy units and stab their ranged. If the ranged unit is running away, it can't shoot too. Ranged as usual will always be decent for exploiting AI in video games, but without a proper blocker melee will hold a stupid heavy advantage.
@@RimmyDownunder It will always work against town militias because the player has no control of them. Other than that, there are places on the map that are only 2-3 units wide. If you block those with melee units, that works. Alternatively, kiting works extremely well in home territory, where your units don't lose supply but the enemy does. Also supply units like the caravans and Atreides support drone can keep your units healthy even while kiting in enemy territory. Opponents have to choose between trying to focus down an 800 hp support unit or fighting the kiting ranged units.
for the wind question, especially on a planet like arrakis, because of the temperature variability you would get some extreme wind in valleys as the heat disperses at a different rate from the surrounding region
@@meh280 They become much more efficient at detecting things as they come closer to the surface though, the worms are crazy good at detecting even the slightest movements
Another thing to consider, the planet is a mostly desert biosphere so areas of lower elevation tend to be mostly windy, though it is not a pleasant wind you would feel because it is dry and quite arid. Higher elevations tend to suck in the moisture for the reason that the mountains and high areas act as this pressure container making clouds drop their rain and moisture at the peaks, when the clouds/winds drop in the shadow of the mountain, it has lost nearly 2/3s of its moisture that it began if this was a coastal region. It's complicated and quite the topic to cover in Geography.
watching these videos are always a delight watching the worm open up like a cursed demon flower grey goo is an old-ish style RTS if you haven't tried it XD
I came on RUclips specifically to find a video on Dune: Spice Wars and then you put this into my feed? How does he do it? He can't keep getting away with this!
People complain about this not being Dune 2 part 2 (its like complaining that fallen order wasnt the sequel to empire at war, different devs and they dont claim to be sequels) but i think it at least follows in the tradition of the classic dune series of games. Dune 1 was a unique RPG/Strategy/Point and Click adventure hybrid with what was the beginnings of RTS style gameplay in combat, it was very unique, then dune 2 came out and expanded on the strategy gameplay and just so happened to take off into the RTS genre, and now we have spice wars taking inspiration from RTS but trying to innovate by combining it with 4x features. The dune games were always innovating and trying new ideas, just because one game was massively influencial doesnt mean they cant keep trying new ideas... i'm glad to see the new concepts implemented although I do definitely hope to see them improved (the 4x mechanics atm feel a little lacking, especially diplomacy!)
Actually Dune and Dune 2 came out about the same time, they were being made by different companies and they just decided to call one '2' to split them apart. Dune 2000 and Emperor Battle for Dune were very similar to 2 (2000 was a straight up remake). That said- I wish Spice Wars did its own thing and was good- but I don't know, it doesn't grab me, at points the theming seems great and then at other points you've got the oddities of Artedies being able to peacefully take over villages and Fremen lacking say- an honour duel option to flip a village. Also fremen soldiers being eaten by worms just seems... wrong to me. I feel like if they were going to be playable they should have more unique mechanics.
Valleys have higher winds normally cause of air being pushed down off of mountains, I live near the base of the Appalachian Mountain in Pennsylvania USA, and we normally get wind coming from the mountains to the East, the taller the mountain, the stronger the winds. In short, Atmospheric pressure causes it.
2:54 hi I’m a actually just getting done with some schooling in the military abt this particular phenomenon is. The reason the wind is so high in the valley is due to a phenomenon call valley breeze where warm are rises over the mountain tops or plateaus in this case and colder are is rushing into replace it.
Valleys act as funnels that cause wind to speed up. A city near me has long streets flanked by skyscrapers, and wind storms caused trees to be uprooted.
I like how someone wrote negotciations and said "yep that seems right", then someone else saw it and said "yeah its good" and then testers say "looks good to me" And I am gonna be honest, I thought it was stellaris...
I remember seeing this pop up on the steam front page and it was great...., remembering the movies, music, hans zimmer, etc. Gotta check out this game!
If you enjoyed this you should probably check out Northgard. It's a viking themed 4x/rts hybrid from the same studio, that has got a lot more content/replayability.
it doesn't always work this way because the world is weird and complicated but often times valleys experience intense winds because pressure differences and stuff. this is especially true if there's canyons around the valley that the wind can be pushed through.
I feel like Rimmy doesn't understand what attracts a Sandworm. It's not mining activities themselves, it's the vibrations. So when one is coming, everybody freezes and prays that it emerges somewhere else.
I know what attracts a sandworn dude it's not mystical science. But for the actual video game, it's not that complex. It's just a chance while fighting.
@@RimmyDownunder Huh, really? That's a pretty major oversight then if holding position still attracts the sandworm, I guess they want that element of "You could lose your entire army at any time unless you keep near to safe spots." But anyways, it totally is mystical space science, how could you possibly not understand it?!1! (Not digging you directly, more just poking fun at the fact that each time it occurred you kept your armies running around, from a viewer perspective it makes it look as though you didn't understand that they are attracted to vibrations, if it genuinely doesn't work like that then that's the game being a bit...well, no really silly actually, an army would still make tons of vibrations just from being stationary...huh, I guess it makes more sense than I realised, me dum dum ^.^)
Rimmy, Melee units are better because In the *lore* there are special Kinetic sheilds that can only be peirced by Melee units. Hence-- Bullets can't peirce the shield because bullets move too fast, while a sword is slow- there are a few exceptions but that's how war has evolved in the lore
It needs a bit more 4x/grand strategy stuff for higher replayability, like random events or an extensive, meaningful, and faction-based research tree. Other than that, it looks fantastic!
Really liked the review and the game footage. You showed this game from your user perspective. Sounds strange but that's the kind of review i want: long-term and from the user perspective. Anyway good editing, very good pacing. Stay Healthy!
This is a 4X RTS game. There, the question in the title was answered. Also there's a pause feature you can decide to ignore if it ruins your enjoyment of RTSing without pausing. :)
This reminds me of Rise of Nations: Rise of Legends. Its an old RTS with region control that was maintained by cities that you could upgrade with districts (kinda like Civ)
It makes sense melee units are the best, as in Dune world due to existence of shields melee combat is main form of combat, and even among Fremen (who don't use shields because they anger Sandworms) there is a deeply ingrained culture of sword or knife fighting
the pain in actually knowing how the worms work in game - you literally just run in one direction away from them, or run onto rocks. Past my first times when I figured them out, I only ever got caught because I got impatient and ran back into the area before the worm had left.
Ah Dune. From the very 1st RTS game ever. To what ever game this is. How you have changed with the times, but your sand worms will always reign supreme...
Sandworms canonically stick relatively close to Spice fields. What's why Harvesters are as vulnerable to them as it gets. And melee units are somewhat superior to ranged (infantry) units du to personal shield technology (as far as the spaceborn factions are concerned). Fast objects (like bullets) can't pass through them. The harder you hit the shield, the more effective it becomes (unless you hit it with a really big and/or explosive projectile). Even in melee fighters have to be really careful about the intensity in which they are strike thier opponent. Laser weapons are really funny in the Dune universe. If you hit a shield with an energy weapon, it basically causes an explosion that can rival early nukes.
Fremen: * get eaten by Shai-Hulud* Fremen: * can't build/profit from tech that was exclusive for them* Fremen: * openly occupying villages* Me: Were developers high or working for house of harkonnen?
A good way to fix the "i run to your ranged unit problem" is to make so that melee unit have a range of engagement that make unit slover when they pass past them. And different unit having different engage capabilities making slow more and for more unit
I do know valleys are actually known for having high winds compared to surrounding areas. Think it has to do with the same thing that causes the ground effect in F1 and pressure differences in planes to cause lift. Basic idea is that the geography causes a pressure difference that forces air into the region at high speed, and because of the walled in nature of the valley, the wind carries the speed through from 1 side of the valley to the other
Yep, by Bernoulli's Principle, if the flow gets constricted while the flow rate remains constant, the flow velocity must increase. Technically not exactly what Bernoulli's Principle says, but it's implied because of it.
also gravity
@@marley7868 what??
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistral_(wind)
I came to comment section for answers, and damn I got answers.
Rimmy: "Why is it following me!"
Also Rimmy: Moves his entire army in one, gigantic blob.
Similar to how a fishing lure that looks like a whole school of fish will catch more, so, too, will a giant blob of tasty snacks that don't bother SPLITTING UP get devoured by Sandius Wormicus.
He also could just use the thumper worm rider mechanic. The other factions have airport shuttles for exactly the same reason.
Clearly, they forgot to walk without rhythm.
@@CM-ux9yh ...shouldn't the fremen warriors be able to walk around without alerting the worm anyways... They got that sandwalking thing, right?
@@Omnomface It'd be neat if there was a "sand walk" toggle for fremen infantry that enabled them to avoid drawing sand worms' attention in exchange for reduced movement speed while it's active.
As far as I can see, moving your army as one has zero effect on the worm. It's just a random chance during battle. And you want to move your army as one to maximise DPS.
By the end I figured out just to rush the village because the rocks prevent worm attacks.
6:27 No, that is a pretty fair reaction to seeing the Baron for the first time... and this is actually one of the far less grotesque depictions of him
To be fair, melee being far better than ranged seems on point for Dune. The slow blade and all that.
Actually in the wiki it said due to energy armour creation the las weaponry just explodes the target due to reaction and make a huge nuclear explosion so i guess melee is safer in this universe
Sorry, in Dune the fucking lasers explode people like a nuke? I really need to start reading it, holy shit
@@APineTree yeah but only if they have an active shield Dune is quite a wacky universe
@@APineTree So, in Dune, many soldiers have personal shield generators that protect them from kinetic projectiles like bullets. But lasers trigger a catastrophic reaction when they strike the shield, typically resulting in a massive nuke-like detonation. The thing is, use of nuclear weaponry is universally forbidden in the Imperium - and the effects of the detonation are hard to distinguish from the use of nukes. So nobody wants to use laser weaponry against their enemies, no matter how potent, because they'd risk accidentally drawing all the Great Houses in to declaring open war on them and wiping them out.
I'm pretty sure it's just a justification for why infantry commonly fight with melee weapons in the universe instead of just shooting the enemy, but as far as justifications go, it's a pretty cool one.
@@BaronVonHoovy Also im pretty sure the feedback also causes the laser weapon to detonate like a nuke as well. I think it was mentioned that sometimes lasers are aimed at shielded bunkers/ cities, and setup with timers so the attackers have a chance to gtfo.
7:57: “Ranged units so far seem terrible”
That’s just lore accurate, dunno what to tell you
So in the lore why are there ranged units at all then?
@@AbyssWatcher745
Because there aren’t ranged units in Dune. Personal shielding tech is so good that even the most basic trooper is bulletproof. The only way to breach through shields is to move slowly into them, because shields still need to let air in. Thats why everyone uses swords even though Dune is set 10,000 years in the future, they had to develop a special combat style where you slow your attack as you reach the opponents shield.
You could also use a laser I guess, but a) lasers in Dune are the opposite of 40k lasguns in that they’re super rare and expensive to maintain and b) shooting a shield with a laser will cause a nuclear reaction that would kill the shielded person, but also probably you too.
@@guccifer764 So... Couple of things wrong there:
Lasers are actually not super rare and expensive, they're just not commonly used in infantry combat (they're mostly used in attacks on civilians or against vehicles that are too large to be shielded) because of that reaction with shields you mentioned (and the fact that atomic weapons, including weaponising that reaction between lasers and shields, are outlawed and will have the entire empire come down on you).
And shields are actually relatively rare in combat on Arrakis, because active shields not only attract sandworms, but send them into a killing frenzy (because the electrostatic effect that shields work on mimics the sensation of another worm and when worms encounter each other in the wild, they fight each other to the death, except when they're being ridden by Fremen who have to actively keep them from killing each other and when the Fremen engage in mass troop movements involving multiple worms, the Fremen steering them usually have to stay on after dropping off the rest of the riders and steer them in opposite directions before releasing them to keep them from attacking each other right then and there).
Which is why Arrakis is one of the few places in the universe of Dune where you *will* find mass ranged combat and lots of laser weapons, because shields are much more rare.
@@guccifer764 They don't use nukes on Arrakis though, it sends the worms into a killing frenzy, so they should still be very efficient
@@RvEijndhoven finally someone that understands that the shields drive worms into killing frenzy, the lasguns should work very efficiently in game but they don't.
I'd just like to say: Emperor: Battle for Dune had a flying unit that flew over a target, exploded, and then dropped a dude who ALSO exploded. I can't say the gameplay was well balanced, or that it was even a very good RTS, but Dune is a setting really begging for some weird units like that.
Also, Sardaukar are something you can temporary buy with influence.
Didn't play much of Emperor, played a lot of Dune 2000 though and can say... that wasn't balanced completely either but still a fav of mine (RIP Westwood)
You can't buy Sardaukar in Dune Spice Wars as of yet. Once you are elected as the Jugde of the Council you can buy Landsraad Guards for influence, but they arent the same unit. Right now they share a model because the Sardaukar one is not done yet, I guess.
Valley Wind is common in locations where the sun heats and cool the mountains and valleys at different times. You get stronger winds in the valleys as the plateaus cool at night, the cooler air will flow down the cliffs into the valley, then come morning the now colder valley air will be warmed by th sun and will begin to move up the plateaus. And basically this happens throughout the day and night as the temperature difference of the air above and below the plateaus changes.
Additionally, if the wind currents are flowing in a direction that passes the colder air through a valley, it will act like a funnel, increasing the air flow as the same amount of air tries to pass through a smaller space
Do land sea breezes next.
For the wind it depends on the directionality of the wind and the shape of the valley. If the wind is blowing directly into the valley and the valley does not have many bands that would act as a wind break the valley could then funnel the wind into the valley creating an area where the air is forced into a funnel causing it to increase in velocity.
Yes it really depends on a lot of factors, its really not as simple as valley=fast wind or tall mountain plateau=fast wind
Bernoullis principle?
"I'm taking all your money because I need 5000 dollars to assassinate you."
Excuse me whilst I just add that to the "Great Quotes of Rimmy" list... 😂
2:55 Seems like the wind is coming from down under (pun intended) the valley and not from above the hill/mountain. It probably accumulates at the rock site from the hill/mountain and stops there thus having less strength then previously.
“Any game where you can backstab someone while shaking their hand is a good game” - Rimmy 2022
Extremely Big Brain. All Warfare is based on Deception.
God he'd love the game right now. Corrino is basically an entire faction built around going tall while playing everyone else against each other. Multiple ways to help other players under the table - all with ways for Corrino to profit directly - and abilities that allow them to send their armies far afield from their small territories means you jsut sit on your bases getting richer and richer while intervening in everyone elses squabbles to make sure none of the suckers win.
I think it’s fitting that the combat seems like the worst part of the game while the diplomacy and espionage is really well made.
If you’ve read the books you’ll know its like 95% diplomacy and 5% actual fighting.
It is bad because this game isn’t a city builder or a game where you compete against someone else, you are directly fighting other factions as combatants.
@@aveimperator1748 combat is just one of the many options at your disposal though
The whole RTS/4x thing described in the intro reminds me of Sins of a Solar Empire. The map and combat look more reminiscent of Endless Legend, but a bit better.
What I find hilarious about this is how the ranged units are kind of lore accurate in how they’re terrible against melee.
Not really though, on Arrakis you can't wear shields other the worms go into a killing frenzy, the lasguns should work very efficient. However, if they did have shields, if the laser and shield made contact it would cause a subatomic explosion.
So I've tried out the game, and won as both Atreides and Fremen. My Atreides early-mid game was much harder than as the Fremen, and the only difference in settings was that the Fremen game was on a large map rather than medium. Theres a bit of replayability in trying each faction once, and trying to get the victory that they're sort of meant to get. Atreides have an easier start towards governor, Fremen towards domination (cause their units are stronger). I think the Harkonens have some spy stuff, etc. I'm really hoping for them to add other factions like we see in the Dune board game. The Emperor, the Bene Gesserit, maybe even the Spacer Guilds. I'm pretty confident that if they make it possible for the map to be larger and house more factions, as well as make Diplomacy a thing you can actually do (you can currently vaguely influence the other factions opinion towards you by trading, but as soon as they attack you it plummets pretty quickly) then replayability will be much better
fun fact rimmy, the areas around towns and villages is bedrock sandworms wont attack you on it even if you are nearby
Instead he tells his army to leave the safety of the Rocks for the Sands...
also he moves them all in the same direction. the best idea is to starfish the fuck away from wormsigns, because then then you dont a a single huge target but multiple lesser.
Rimmy, all you need to do is watch the behind the scenes for LoTR to understand why a valley has strong wind.
For those who can’t be arsed to watch the behind the scenes; the set for Endoras (Rohan’s capital) was built in a valley and it was super, super windy and constantly blew the set and actors down.
I'm excited for this. I mean, Dune II was the grandpappy of the modern RTS genre, so there's a lot of expectations riding on this title, even if it's not entirely fair.
Dune... The BATTLE FOR ARRAKIS!
God, I still hear that intro...
Dune 2000 was my first RTS. Amazing soundtrack. I would really like a more up to date RTS in that vein.
Yeah Dune II, I remember installing it from floppy discs.
@@christopherlee627 I remember playing it on cartridge on the Sega Genesis
2:52 Sailor with too much wind knoledge here. It's not unheard of for wind to be higher in valleys since the wind has to go around the mountains and gets funneled through the valley, the higher concentration of wind in the valley causes higher pressure casuing more wind.
It seems like a really good foundation of a game that can then be improved and expanded on. With some investment we could see a new wave of 4x RTS hybrids
Something bothers me about the way this game looks. The fact that it's based on a currently popular franchise, the cartoony look of the characters, the plain UI, the smooth, un-detailed terrain, the typos... it has the feel of a mobile game.
@@Gstrangeman96 It's simple and sleek. That's why. We're used to overbloated Paradox shit.
If they really want ranged units to work- they should make melee units have a 'sticky' feature- where if they engage in combat with enemies their movement is reduced like 90% in a very small radius near those enemies so it takes them a while to disengage.
Absolutely agreed. That or "attacks of opportunity" style penalties are key to avoiding this, but I personally prefer stickiness of the two features.
I think I agree with Rimmy, it looks exciting, it would be an absolute blast to play a game or two of it... and then you pretty much played through whole thing. Sure, there will be nuances between playthroughs, but at best I can see it a guilty pleasure, you launch a game over a weekend, get through it and let the game sit on a shelf for next couple of days. This is one of few times they could go against the established lore and just invent more sides for the conflict, so that at least you'd have a reason to adapt to different opponents from game to game.
To be fair that's what their doing with the smugglers as they were not unified to be a major Faction in the books so I'm gonna assume they will add more Factions but most will most likely be Houses and maybe the Bene Gesuits could work as an independent Faction
Seems weird that Fremen units can get got by sandworms, since it's something that's made a specfic point of that the Fremen walk with a staggering arythmic gait specifically to not attract sandworms.
Balance thing I'd guess.
The Fremen can walk longer in the desert before a worm notices them (the game has a hidden stat called vibrations and Fremen generate fewer vibrations than outworlder facitons. The problem is that rimmy has his entire army moving together, and fighting, which generates a lot of noise.
Would be cool if they tried to take the approach that the Dune board game did. Every faction broke one rule that the others had to follow. It was done in a very flavorful and lore friendly way. Atriedes could see weapon cards during bidding, Harrkonnen got twice as many weapon cards and traitors, fremen were immune to worms and knew where the storms and spice would appear, etc. Each faction felt super unique. Great game design.
Holy shit, a new DUNE RTS after all these decades?
The kralizec must be near...
There's a jihad coming (yes it's called that in the books)
@@delta2372 the kralizec is like muad'dib's jihad, but much, MUCH worse
The one and only gripe I have with this game is it’s slow. That can work in both good and bad ways. Other than that it’s amazing and I love the art.
It's super slow, they really need to make the fast forward do like x8
Just like the book! (And the first movie)
I can tell you right now, ranged units definitely have their place in the sun. It’s easy to say they suck though when they are fighting against Fremen who have better stats than all other units of their class.
Atreides Gunners and Smuggler Snipers in decent proportions with some solid units to shield for them eviscerate units.
Yeah, but that is his point. Your solid units can't "shield" your ranged units because there is no zone of control or"sticky" engagement mechanic. Suffering one or two unanswered melee attacks as your attackers walk past will always be the correct answer, if the result is that you reduce the damage output of the ranged unit by 50% as soon as you make contact. And, if the ranged unit is more fragile than the melee unit (and it looks like they are), you'll eliminate it faster than you would the melee unit, so you will save yourself some extra damage there as well.
@@boosterh1113 so range units can engage from further away and thusly you'd keep the further back secondly both houses have heavy weapon units wich pin(slow) enemy units and even if you maneuver you melee units to attack range units another player can just move their range units. So the issu isn't a battle line its the fact the A.I can't micro
@@lordicewolfz a player moving their ranged units is losing. Units move at pretty much the same speed and the melee will just remain next to the ranged units tearing them to bits.
Ranged units have some use but the lack of blocking makes them way worse than just bringing more melee.
Is this really a "problem", it's Dune, ranged weapons are *supposed* to be nerfed, they're only used in niche situations in Dune. -50% seems reasonable when all you've got are dart throwers and a shielded, armoured warrior with 2 short swords is rearranging your insides.
After all, bullets can't breach shields, laser bolts cause nuclear detonations when they hit shields, it's all just poison darts now.
@@the_Kutonarch yes because video games are meant to be balanced. If ranged units are awful and bad with no reason to use them, then they're a waste of code, modelling time etc.
People have to realise gameplay will always trump lore. Ranged units exist in this game and some factions make them more viable (exploiting the AI does too)
The sandworms being used as an anti doomstack mechanic is kinda cool.
I just adore all the comments about how hur dur it's ok ranged weapons suck, it's in the lore, Dune has shields!
Hey, 'lore experts' ? Remember the big taboo on Arakis? Shields ... drive the worms MAD. Feeding frenzy mad. And the vibrations they generate guarantee a worm attack in minutes. Meaning in the entirety of the Dune setting, Arrakis is the ONE PLACE where you CAN just bring the dakka with impunity because nobody is suicidal enough to being shields to a fight in the desert.
i mean more than anything people gotta remember that gameplay will always beat lore.
no dev is ever gonna be like "shit bro I'm gonna code a whole new unit type into the game but because the lore says its bad I'm going to make it a completely worthless pick". No game is designed like that, at least intentionally. Instead they'd offset it with something else, like ranged being rare because of lore or maybe the opposite of ranged being cheap and shitty like a throwaway unit, but none of that applies to this game. It's just such a weird argument when they could just add unit blocking instead.
someone learning physics here, this is because of the law of convection
cold air is more dense then hot air, thus making it heavier which means the valleys are colder then the hill tops
when the ground heats up it also heats up the surrounding air forcing that hotter air to flow up,
this forces the air on the hill tops that is cold to then flow down to fill up the gaps
so yes valleys are more windy but i am sure there are other forces to play that cause this
4:35 Yeah espionage mechanics in strategy games usually come in one of two flavours. Either completely inconsequential, or completely over-powered. With very little in-between.
in the movie they have that shield that make ranged weapon completely useless, but short melee weapon aren't so it make sense that melee units are op in this game.
In the book, they explain the shields and the use of both melee and ranged weapons. Ranged combat is not completely phased out by the time of Dune, merely a hazard as the use of a shield makes the shooting of any projectile weapon that does NOT move at a slow speed useless. Lasers only work marginally better, destroying not only the shielded target but the shooter as well as the resonance of both generates a small-scale nuclear blast.
Knives and swords can be slowed, making them perfect shield piercers. The problem is not getting stabbed by the same method you are doing.
Ah the Empire... Such a civilized time!
They don't use shields in the desert of Arrakis because the vibrations of shields attracts and enrages sandworms.
A note on the combat, Ranged units can be really strong. The Atreides specifically get MASSIVE bonuses for attacking with a joint force including a lot of ranged units. Their rangers give all units a stacking buff that increases their damage by 5% and their melee troopers gain 10% damage for each buff they get from another unit. The real time option and ranged vs melee gives you the opportunity to micro manage battles, manually targeting individual enemies and splitting your army for maximum effect. You can also block enemy melee units with your own if you space them correctly and protect your ranged units. There's a lot of micro potential to win battles and take minimum casualties without overwhelming strength. I personally managed to defeat 2 melee enemies with 3 ranged units because I was using micro to kite the melee units, then attack them with the ranged units when possible. All the factions seem to have something to promote using a mixed army instead of just melee. The Atreides heavy weapons team also applies a 30% damage debuff to all enemies it hits with it's aoe attack and the other factions have something similar.
Also the 2 houses have the option to use nukes.
Ya thats wat i was thinking/would do. Rimmy was just doing blob attacking from what i could tell.
@@billybob-zk9nm last night I had an epic battle with the smugglers as house Atreides. We both had airfields fairly close to the village I was besieging, so both sides were flying in reinforcements as they were produced. Overall, I lost 5 units to their 20 because I had a fairly strong range focused army with a few melee units that I mostly used as blockers.
@@billybob-zk9nm I used some tricks but with how armies in the game are designed, my method worked best. Destroying ranged units at -50% is godlike. I think I lost maybe 1 battle the whole game that wasn't sand worm related.
@@squashiejoshie200000 Yeah seems like other factions might have better ranged units and buffs etc, but blocking is not possible. It'll only work because you're facing the AI, who stops to fight you. In reality you can just run right through the enemy units and stab their ranged. If the ranged unit is running away, it can't shoot too.
Ranged as usual will always be decent for exploiting AI in video games, but without a proper blocker melee will hold a stupid heavy advantage.
@@RimmyDownunder It will always work against town militias because the player has no control of them. Other than that, there are places on the map that are only 2-3 units wide. If you block those with melee units, that works. Alternatively, kiting works extremely well in home territory, where your units don't lose supply but the enemy does. Also supply units like the caravans and Atreides support drone can keep your units healthy even while kiting in enemy territory. Opponents have to choose between trying to focus down an 800 hp support unit or fighting the kiting ranged units.
for the wind question, especially on a planet like arrakis, because of the temperature variability you would get some extreme wind in valleys as the heat disperses at a different rate from the surrounding region
Rimmy, stop your units movements when a worm is coming. That should stop it from attacking.
Nah, the tool tip tells you to run.
@@RimmyDownunder Ah, they're attracted to vibrations, figured that would be it.
You might like this game called first strike it’s a very simple rts but they’re updating it soon
@@RimmyDownunder have you tried sending your troops in different directions so the worms go after your enemy?
@@meh280 They become much more efficient at detecting things as they come closer to the surface though, the worms are crazy good at detecting even the slightest movements
Another thing to consider, the planet is a mostly desert biosphere so areas of lower elevation tend to be mostly windy, though it is not a pleasant wind you would feel because it is dry and quite arid. Higher elevations tend to suck in the moisture for the reason that the mountains and high areas act as this pressure container making clouds drop their rain and moisture at the peaks, when the clouds/winds drop in the shadow of the mountain, it has lost nearly 2/3s of its moisture that it began if this was a coastal region. It's complicated and quite the topic to cover in Geography.
watching these videos are always a delight
watching the worm open up like a cursed demon flower
grey goo is an old-ish style RTS if you haven't tried it XD
"Why are you following me they should love me"
I love food
Need more games with House Ordos.
I came on RUclips specifically to find a video on Dune: Spice Wars and then you put this into my feed? How does he do it? He can't keep getting away with this!
this game has been described as a less micro intensive northgard, which if you havent played it yet, its rather fun
Honestly sounds like it fits but I've also never played Northgard, just seen bits of it.
People complain about this not being Dune 2 part 2 (its like complaining that fallen order wasnt the sequel to empire at war, different devs and they dont claim to be sequels) but i think it at least follows in the tradition of the classic dune series of games. Dune 1 was a unique RPG/Strategy/Point and Click adventure hybrid with what was the beginnings of RTS style gameplay in combat, it was very unique, then dune 2 came out and expanded on the strategy gameplay and just so happened to take off into the RTS genre, and now we have spice wars taking inspiration from RTS but trying to innovate by combining it with 4x features. The dune games were always innovating and trying new ideas, just because one game was massively influencial doesnt mean they cant keep trying new ideas... i'm glad to see the new concepts implemented although I do definitely hope to see them improved (the 4x mechanics atm feel a little lacking, especially diplomacy!)
Actually Dune and Dune 2 came out about the same time, they were being made by different companies and they just decided to call one '2' to split them apart. Dune 2000 and Emperor Battle for Dune were very similar to 2 (2000 was a straight up remake).
That said- I wish Spice Wars did its own thing and was good- but I don't know, it doesn't grab me, at points the theming seems great and then at other points you've got the oddities of Artedies being able to peacefully take over villages and Fremen lacking say- an honour duel option to flip a village. Also fremen soldiers being eaten by worms just seems... wrong to me. I feel like if they were going to be playable they should have more unique mechanics.
Valleys have higher winds normally cause of air being pushed down off of mountains, I live near the base of the Appalachian Mountain in Pennsylvania USA, and we normally get wind coming from the mountains to the East, the taller the mountain, the stronger the winds.
In short, Atmospheric pressure causes it.
2:54 hi I’m a actually just getting done with some schooling in the military abt this particular phenomenon is. The reason the wind is so high in the valley is due to a phenomenon call valley breeze where warm are rises over the mountain tops or plateaus in this case and colder are is rushing into replace it.
It might spice up the combat if this game had the units break out of formation and attack each other 1 on 1 (or however the odds are stacked).
YES I really wanted to see Rimmy play it the first time I saw it
Valleys act as funnels that cause wind to speed up. A city near me has long streets flanked by skyscrapers, and wind storms caused trees to be uprooted.
I like how someone wrote negotciations and said "yep that seems right", then someone else saw it and said "yeah its good" and then testers say "looks good to me"
And I am gonna be honest, I thought it was stellaris...
I remember seeing this pop up on the steam front page and it was great...., remembering the movies, music, hans zimmer, etc. Gotta check out this game!
>forget to pay taxes
>the sardukar wreck your shit
Space IRS deathsquads
If you enjoyed this you should probably check out Northgard. It's a viking themed 4x/rts hybrid from the same studio, that has got a lot more content/replayability.
Meanwhile back in War Thunder: Our tanks are ran on by cinnamon, also a worm named snuggles!
I think it was a snail in war thunder
it doesn't always work this way because the world is weird and complicated but often times valleys experience intense winds because pressure differences and stuff. this is especially true if there's canyons around the valley that the wind can be pushed through.
It was made by the same people who made Northguard so they are very similar games.
I feel like Rimmy doesn't understand what attracts a Sandworm. It's not mining activities themselves, it's the vibrations. So when one is coming, everybody freezes and prays that it emerges somewhere else.
I know what attracts a sandworn dude it's not mystical science. But for the actual video game, it's not that complex. It's just a chance while fighting.
@@RimmyDownunder Huh, really? That's a pretty major oversight then if holding position still attracts the sandworm, I guess they want that element of "You could lose your entire army at any time unless you keep near to safe spots."
But anyways, it totally is mystical space science, how could you possibly not understand it?!1!
(Not digging you directly, more just poking fun at the fact that each time it occurred you kept your armies running around, from a viewer perspective it makes it look as though you didn't understand that they are attracted to vibrations, if it genuinely doesn't work like that then that's the game being a bit...well, no really silly actually, an army would still make tons of vibrations just from being stationary...huh, I guess it makes more sense than I realised, me dum dum ^.^)
"I'm the Fremen, you should love me!"
Shia-hulud does love you. As a snack.
Rimmy, Melee units are better because In the *lore*
there are special Kinetic sheilds that can only be peirced by Melee units. Hence-- Bullets can't peirce the shield because bullets move too fast, while a sword is slow- there are a few exceptions but that's how war has evolved in the lore
Shields dont work on arrakis. So in reality Ranged units would be better.
@@SuspiciouslyGroomedPegasus They work, but they atract the Sandworms and make them go nuts so using one is basically asking for a sandworm rampage.
It needs a bit more 4x/grand strategy stuff for higher replayability, like random events or an extensive, meaningful, and faction-based research tree. Other than that, it looks fantastic!
It's Africa but instead of diamonds it's drugs....oh wiat
I am still currently reading the book and it is a awesome read. I also played the classic rts game made by Westwood as the Harkonnen.
Everybody gangsta till the sand speaks worm
Really liked the review and the game footage. You showed this game from your user perspective. Sounds strange but that's the kind of review i want: long-term and from the user perspective. Anyway good editing, very good pacing. Stay Healthy!
The Fermen being really good at melee is lore accurate.
Try not to take too much spice.
Things might get a bit… _Wormy._
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Don't you dare try and use your puns to...worm your way into these comments.
This is a 4X RTS game. There, the question in the title was answered. Also there's a pause feature you can decide to ignore if it ruins your enjoyment of RTSing without pausing. :)
The spice is harvested from sandworm nests, that's why they keep attacking... it's sort of like how in C&C Tiberium is dangerous.
No more sick Rimmy, Welcome back my man
This reminds me of Rise of Nations: Rise of Legends. Its an old RTS with region control that was maintained by cities that you could upgrade with districts (kinda like Civ)
The valley as a wind tunnel so the rocks act as a tube to channel wind and the ensuing sand.
It makes sense melee units are the best, as in Dune world due to existence of shields melee combat is main form of combat, and even among Fremen (who don't use shields because they anger Sandworms) there is a deeply ingrained culture of sword or knife fighting
Dune II was the best game I played. This game brings back so many memories!
6:28 is pretty much the noise i make when i see myself in a mirror lol
RIMMY! THE SLEEPER HAS AWAKENED!
I have to say I’ve never seen a 4x game be in real time. I dig it though
*Sins of a Solar Empire* does it, too.
iirc it would be considered a 4x in the term of RTS's. I miss the old 2001 dune rts :(
It's a 4x but with the ability to micro your units, which I like. It really elevates the combat potential of your army.
@@squashiejoshie200000 ^ - this
this is the first bit of gameplay i've seen of this game. It confirm to me that it is just a prettier version of spores's civilisation phase.
the pain at watching rimmy not understand spacing is real, when a worm is nearby run in all directions not as 1 blob
the pain in actually knowing how the worms work in game - you literally just run in one direction away from them, or run onto rocks. Past my first times when I figured them out, I only ever got caught because I got impatient and ran back into the area before the worm had left.
Ah Dune.
From the very 1st RTS game ever.
To what ever game this is.
How you have changed with the times, but your sand worms will always reign supreme...
Sandworms canonically stick relatively close to Spice fields. What's why Harvesters are as vulnerable to them as it gets.
And melee units are somewhat superior to ranged (infantry) units du to personal shield technology (as far as the spaceborn factions are concerned). Fast objects (like bullets) can't pass through them. The harder you hit the shield, the more effective it becomes (unless you hit it with a really big and/or explosive projectile). Even in melee fighters have to be really careful about the intensity in which they are strike thier opponent.
Laser weapons are really funny in the Dune universe. If you hit a shield with an energy weapon, it basically causes an explosion that can rival early nukes.
The spice must flow.
It is comical to see the Fremen keep getting nom by the worm.
I remember playing one of the original RTS ', Dune II.
the wind gets dropped by the ghost of isaac newton and therefore goes faster
I love your videos!
Fremen: * get eaten by Shai-Hulud*
Fremen: * can't build/profit from tech that was exclusive for them*
Fremen: * openly occupying villages*
Me: Were developers high or working for house of harkonnen?
Also me: Boo! Ima fanboy! Boo! I wanna see like it was in da book! I don't want to go and get a job!
welcome to future Brittan simulator, now with cold war SAS intel!
Oh! so that's why the knive units are so powerful...
"The slow knoife penetrates da sheeld, bruv"
@@void-creature literally just "oioioi bruv, yu got a loicence fer stabbin a guy fer spoices" "ah ye bruv i got my loicence roiiight here"
* casually shows up on a god worm *
“Hello gentleman”
All I heard was "Ornothopter" and "Arrakis" and immediately thought "Warthunder Event"
Couldn't stop thinking of House Ordos and i do wish EA collaborated with Petroglyph to make a dune game
Don't the fremens have a sandwalk method that prevents them from getting devoured by the worms?
I guess they didn't add that.. i hope they do.
I think valleys channel wind in a single direction or simply receive more from nearby large bodies of water due to air circulation.
Maybe both.
"It's not long enough to be a civ game"
That might be good.
For valleys the wind goes down into the valley like water down a slide, best explanation is liken wind to what water does
A good way to fix the "i run to your ranged unit problem" is to make so that melee unit have a range of engagement that make unit slover when they pass past them. And different unit having different engage capabilities making slow more and for more unit
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>How does valley have more wind than mountain top plateau
Funnels.
No house Ordos, not even thirty seconds in and it's off my wishlist.
Looks like the leader assassination used a Stone Burner. Nice.
I kinda would like to see Rimmy playing the classic like Dune 2000 or at least Emperor: Battle of Dune. It would be wonderful~
Valleys can have higher wind speed since the wind can be funneled through
so anyway. wind blow stronger in a valley, because it has less space to squeeze through. Just as water speeds up, when a river get smaller.
exactly! The tighter the harder and faster!