Based? I mean I love 40k but some are straight rip offs lmao,like Tallarn are literally Fremen.Remember the capital of Taros-Tarokeen? Rings some bells now? Lmao
@@justinius2170 I will forever believe someone was trying to make a Dune game, realized they would never get the license, and had to figure out something else because they were really happy with what they came up with.
Forget the audio books,pick up the first dune book , roll one up, sit back and strap in,you will be on your way to a universe that you can't fathom!!!!
i have LOVED the world of DUNE for over 20 years, but i have never come across a brilliant retelling and detailed explanation of a rich in depth universe that is FRANK HERBERTS "DUNE". The animation was unbelievable, and the narration was so on point it was like it could have been in the actual movies/mini series. just Breathtaking attention to detail and respect for the content. keep it up :)
@smilodnfatalis55 Great comment man! When I learned that the princess in Star Wars in the first drafts was carrying “aura spice” instead of plans for the Death Star, I was shocked! 😳
Beautiful, the easiest to comprehend and most essential introduction to Dune I've seen so far. I love those old art illustrations and I'm glad you used them here, made me a little nostalgic.
It's fun to watch videos like this and learn just how deep some sci fi franchises today, especially Warhammer 40k, have roots in Dune. Imperium of Man, the God-Emperor, even the existence of Navigators (albeit rather decidedly different in how they work and why they're needed in 40k) owe their inspirations to these books.
Not to mention there was an AI rebellion during the Dark Age of Technology. It's basically "thinking machines" rebellion in Dune. That's why AI is banned in both universes.
The series is so well written. There are so much themes and arguments that the author makes over the course of the book it is almost like a work of philosophy than an actual fictional book. One of the few fictional books i ever liked reading. The author is a genius
This! If Villeneuve gets his Part 2, I really hope he can find a way to bring the Dune Encyclopedia back in to print, except make it the official lore book for the film series.
Call me stupid, but what exactly is the difference? Should the encyclopedia not collect the information given by the books? Or do the games have better storys?
@@molybdaen11 Brian Herbet's storys and 'prequel' books are _technically_ the canon story of Dune, but they are so notoriously terrible and simplistic that fans reject them as fan fiction. They're that bad. In doing so, many have instead taken the semi-canon Dune Encyclopedia over BH's garbage.
@@AtticusAmericanus Ah, so the encyclopedia is just a more refined product because they had the time to build the world without creating a story first.
Came here for this comment! As " um actually" as it sounds it's a fairly significant distinction, and makes the basic structure easier to understand for anyone with a passing interest in the holy Roman empire like myself.
@Sergio Ortiz I forgot to mention the circles from 9:54 are similar to Imperial circles of the HRE. More info: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_circle Thanks for the compliment.
The cultures in the book series, the history, the ecology of Arrakis and the worms are so well realized its no wonder Dune is a foundational work in understanding worldbuilding
Woah! Seeing you in an MCDM shirt with the Dune board game brings me to a full circle. I found Matt through the Dune boardgame episodes and then his running the game series.
Stunning work. As someone who's never read Dune or even seen the movies, you now have me deeply interested in the series. Good job. P.S. The narrator's voice is buttery smooth. :D
I'm almost finished with the first book of the House trilogy, which directly precedes the original Dune novel, and it is definitely worth looking into.
Dune is definitely worth checking out. The new movie from what I’ve heard is a good introduction to the universe other than the first book. My advice is don’t go in expecting Star Wars or Star Trek.
Seriously it took me 5 hours to watch the new movie due to how much rewinding to try and take it *all* in was necessary! Sooooo much to love! A faithful and appreciative telling yet with their own take on things done *right* Gonna be watching it again and again today
@@plamenminchev6563 I think so for sure. And it would be easy to be spoiler free just doing the lead up to where the show is. So much history for empire free planets and pezzain
So I knew absolutely nothing about Dune before watching this video and this was exactly what I was hoping to find to help introduce me to this universe. Thank you so very much for you and your team's hard work in this endeavor.
Glad to see this like the Stormlight Archive one you did which I also very much enjoyed (I was impressed you managed to be so informative without spoiling any of the big plot twists behind the setting).
one crucial piece of information is missing: the correlation between sand trouts and sandworms was not widespread knowledge. Among others, the Corrino Emperors and the Guild itself did not knew it.
Yeah, this lack of knowledge is why starting a new Spice cycle elsewhere always failed. Anyone trying to set up a Spice cycle tended to take adult worms from Dune and transplant them, but the only result of that was the death of the worm. The worm cannot live anywhere unless the sandtrout has terraformed the place for the worm first.
It is 5 minutes in and the narration has already covered basically every relevant point GW yoinked from Dune for their 40k setting. I'd say "4 minutes of actual video content" since those first 5 minutes includes the ad, but I'm sure there's at least one idea in the board game being advertised that was also stolen by GW. :D
What yall don't realize is dune wasn't good till recently , maybe from the 2020s on you'll see stuff inspired by dune but I highly doubt anyone watched the same shitty b movie I did and thought " yes this is the failed ip I'm going to steal from" just saying
I have been a Dune fan for years. This video has added to my understanding and appreciation of what a wonderfully complex and astonishing place the Dune Universe is.
Thank you for this. I’m getting set to see the movie but have never read the books and wanted a proper foundation in the backstory of this universe without spoiling any of the story that unfolds during the movie itself. Very well done.
To see Dune presented with such stunning visuals and fully comprehensive oratory is truly a pleasure. I have always had some degree of interest in Dune but these videos have presented it in such a way that leaves u begging for more. I truly hope there are more Dune videos coming. As I understand it, apple tv has a Bene Gesserit project in development, they could definitely take some Que’s from this channel. Excellent job!!!
I first read Dune as a teenager, many years ago. I have watched all the movies and series released. I am looking foward to seeing the new movie. You have made the whole story come alive again. Thank you for an excellent video!
So what did you think of that David Lynch abortion of a movie? Personally, I hated it, the sci-fi channel mini-series was much better. But it was useful to watch it once to see where Westwood Studios got their design influences for the Dune RTS games they made, and then later the Red Alert franchise based on that same gameplay mechanic.
The only problem I have the new movie is that like this video they have the name of House Harkonnen all wrong (pronunciation wise) and the fact they taken just a tad to much liberty when it comes to design like Caryalls basically being Balloon ships and some big spice harvesting "tics" That make no sense. AND also the the Fremen uses Las Weapons (which they DO not in the book)
@@darth_yoda You expect everything to be like the book?. I wouldn't want a mixture of a man/sand worm in the movies to come. New ideas is what makes things better. Not everybody read the book
@@reymenders5437 If you don't want a movie to follow the SOURCE material it shouldn't be made from preexisting material but should use new made to order.. When you make an adaptation you need to honor the source material its a basic fact you don't seem to understand.
@@darth_yoda What basic fact i do not know anything about DUNE only untill now. Hell i thought Star Wars was first untill i was corrected. Ok Darth Yoda i got a question for you WHERE TF IS AHSOKA IN THE PREQUELS? Ill wait
The way you have been able to convey all of the information in this video is peerless. I am impressed by the wording by the narration by the pacing and by the choice for when and how to give more in depth explanations. For me this has been an artful to experience. Thank you
To Expand, Prior to 0AG, Earth was hit by a planetoid, later returned to in "the saving of the treasures" Holtzman was born and discovered the Holtzman effect; the various phases of which are used for shields, travel etc. He eventually became part human, part machine, switching himself on and off during the period of time the video marks as various golden ages. Eventually being killed following the Butlerian Jihad (instigated when Butlers unborn child was killed pre delivery following decisions made by a thinking machine) Norma Cenva instigates the creation of the spacing guild by completing the first spice assisted travel using the holtzman drive and those people from earth? They became the Zensunni, ordered by the Padishar emperor to locate a new home, eventually settling on... POW! Arrakis - becoming the Fremen after being forced into the desert by the occupants at the time. This video is really good! It has enough depth to be thorough but it doesn't end up being a total info dump - cheers guys!
As someone who has read/listened to all 6 original books, I never knew there was a board game for Dune, so thanks for letting me know that. Second, this is a GREAT narratively and artistically fitting explainer for everything leading up to the first book. I'm still waiting to see the new movie but it sure seems like it will bring many new fans to its fold.
Watched this movie in theaters. Hands down the best sci-fi/fantasy movie that’s out there at the moment. I really felt the ‘power’ of things that were supposed to be powerful. I felt terrified for the characters when they were terrified. The consequences were truly real. A lot of stories nowadays will tell us that something in-story-universe is ‘powerful’ or ‘scary’. But then they die instantaneously whenever the writers need a convenient death. You never really feel the consequences or the ‘weight’ of it. This movie did it all right. Watch it in theaters! It deserves every view it gets. They did an excellent job.
Just a heads up to any future commenters, If he says he will put out more videos on Dune, don’t believe him. He said the same thing about the Stormlight archive and that vid was a year ago.
@@InvictaHistory ok, I’m just curious as to why it’s taken so long tho. Like surely a video that’s less than 30 min doesn’t take a year even while publishing other videos
This is the best and most comprehensive guide to Dune that is available on the internet. I love the videos Invicta has produced on various warrior cultures throughout human history, but when it comes to your channels videos on fictional universes, this one is by far one of the best on your channel.
Lynch'es Spacing guild is my favorite, their wierd customs and language is so alien compared to the classicly feudal human norms the dichotomy is very visually and thematically much more interesting than Denis'es version. That being said Denis'es version is so good and best overall, very grateful for that movie. Thanks Invicta for these videos, hope to see.
Thank you so much for ALL of your content. From military history to lore, it has helped me learn more about Warhammer fantasy and get inspiration for the games I run and play. I read the first book last year in anticipation for the movie and it changed the way I look at fiction. Thank you for making great videos that I can recommend to newcomers of sci-fi and fantasy. P. S. Great shirt btw, definitely didn’t slip my notice.
I have been waiting for YEARS for Dune to finally make it big and I’m absolutely beside myself that we are finally getting fantastic content for it. I’m desperately hoping for the stories of the Cymeks, Omnius and Erasmus to be fleshed out as well.
Truly one of the best explanations of lore I’ve ever seen. Methodical, clear, concise, and great visuals. Not to mention the superb narrator that made the video come alive. I truly wish other fictional franchises had this level of explanation, especially the more complex ones.
I need Stellaris mod for this this!!! It also interesting that they incorporate Crusaders and Islam in the books. The Fremen are supposedly the Muslim in the future and Paul Atreides is their Mahdi, the leader that will come before the coming of Messiah according to the Koran. The Saudakar are the blood-thirst Crusaders. In the original movie of 1984 (based on the books), Paul became the Prophet himself. I already know how the movie goes but I really can’t wait for the sequel!!!!!!
I just saw the 1984 film at a bad movie night, and a lot of that film now makes sense. I can understand now why the 2021 film is split in two. I've been skeptical about Warner films splitting films in two since Harry Potter 7, but this one seems justified.
As someone who has only just discovered the work of Frank Herbert it is crazy how far ahead of his time his thinking was in terms of interstellar travel and humanity's goals and aims.
He is the King of all the land In the Kingdom of the sands Of a time tomorrow He rules the sand worms and the Freemen In the land amongst the stars Of an age tomorrow! - Iron maiden- To tame a land
""To Tame a Land" was meant to be entitled "Dune" after the novel, but after seeking permission from Frank Herbert's agents, the band received a message which stated, "Frank Herbert doesn't like rock bands, particularly heavy rock bands, and especially bands like Iron Maiden" and were forced to change the name." (from wiki)
The political constellation of the empire is pretty similar to the Holy Roman Empire with a rather weak, not absolutist, emperor and a strong parliament. The references to history are just great!
Damn man thank you so much for making this. I was never into Dune all that much because I just wasn't really exposed to it, but figured I'd watch the movie anyway since it looked kind of cool. Watching this first gave me a much better platform to understand the movie from. I enjoy sci-fi a lot, and now that I've watched this video I'm going to be getting into Dune quite a bit deeper. Thank you!
What makes Arrakis frustrating is that the humans can't really do anything to improve the environment like killing the sand worms or change the atmosphere and soil to make it less hot and hazardous, even if it's within their technological capability. Because any changes to the ecosystem of Dune can potentially cripple the spice production. The substance is produced through the elaborate process where every part of Arrakis' ecosystem plays a role. So there is no way to live here then just accept the world as it is and go with the flow.
In Dune, it is mentioned that Arrakis had "recently opened itself to new lifeforms." This suggests that the Fremen terraforming project was already well underway when House Atreides arrived.
Surely we could drop a few ice asteroids at strategic points. No need to destroy all deserts with the worms but reducing they size to maybe 50% should benefit everyone on dune.
I loved this, ur adaptations of the looks for each race, ship and place etc look mind blowing and honestly i can see the love for this world u guys have, keep getting the bread
Was inspired by, all stories borrow elements of those that came before, it's because Dune is so good that it has heavily inspired so many modern science fiction writers today.
@@Blottingpaper thats true. Frank Herbert's Dune inspired many sci-fi stories. The only reason Dune wasn't as popular during it's time is because it lacked the thing that made sci-fi cool then, robots and space lasers lol
@@BeeOppresion Ironically, the omission of robots was by design, and lasers (or lasguns in the book) are also written out for being too dangerous for modern warfare.
@@umjackd Shields are always worn by fighters and when hit by lasguns, a near atomic type explosion results that would kill everyone in the vacinity, including the shooter.
I prefer Frank Herbert's version of the Butlarian Jihad... where it was mankind using machines to enslave and control people. Not some AI war like Brain Herbert's thing, it goes completely against the original philosophy.
Why not mention the north african history and Islam history that inspired the lore ? No one noticed the amount of references and arabic words in the movie ?
I haven't seen the new movie yet (I don't do subscription services!) but I have read the book. First time I read it was in 2018 after getting into fantasy novels and looking for something similar to ASOIAF in my local library and DUNE was highly recommended by my friends. I LOVED IT! I enjoyed it so much I also bought the prequel books recently. One thing that confuses me is why so many people say that the story is difficult to adapt to a movie. The plot is very well structured and the world building is not very convoluted. It is honestly one of the easier sci-fi/fantasy books to adapt into a movie or even TV.
Someone explain to me why, if the spice is this essential, the Emperor/Empire just doesn't take over Dune itself but instead gives it to the other houses to control? You'd think something that important and lucrative wouldn't be entrusted to anyone but the Emperor.
@@jakobinobles3263 As you said to maintain order and not having all Houses teaming up against them. From the video you can see that the Imperial house actually only has 100 votes in the Landsraad. Tho they have control to rule others, they still have to maintain their image and position with the landsraad. My other point would be that ruling an empire is already hard enough to add also the weight of maintaining spice production on a literal wasteland planet.
Because the Fremen are the best fighters around and can eat an Imperial Sardoukar for breakfast. See what happened when Paul Muab-dib unleashed them on an unsuspecting galaxy.
@@jakobinobles3263 this is not how real history works check how roman emperors treated my country egypt with it being emperor literal property within no senator allowed to visit it with out his blessings with the governor being the only governor in the empire to belong to the equestrian ranks all of that and Egypt was far less important than arakis and the spice
@@jakobinobles3263 like bro Britain had a similar problem in India and guess what they ended up taking direct control over it despite it being in the other half of the world so yes in comparison even if arakis was on the other half of the galaxy from the capital it only makes sense for him to take direct control over it and give it a special status make it the fifif of the heir for example or appointment a special governor on it from a lower class anything would have been more realistic than just giving it to another house
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl The British Empire removed control of India from the East India Company not because it wanted to retain control of the trade, but because of a series of avoidable disasters that had occurred under the EIC's rule. And while that occurred in 1858, you have to remember the Suez Canal was completed only 11 years later. Even so, the Crown did not have direct control over the Raj, they sent a Vice Roy who ruled in the Empires name. That Vice Roy was selected by the Empire and could be removed by the Empire, but essentially ruled India in the Empires stead. While the Vice Roy may have been given broad instructions, how he did that was essentially left to him to decide, which is almost EXACTLY what is happening on Arrakis. A vice Roy is appointed and his/her task is to ensure the Spice flows. How they do that is up to them. In fact choosing how Britain ran India as your example of why the Emperor should take control is literally the worst example historically you could have chosen.
I scrolled past all of these episodes so many times thinking that they wouldn't offer anything of note. I've been reading all things Dune for over 45 years, but in fact l did run across some revelations that were of interest.
Just seen the movie for the first time absolutely loved it and was shocked to find out how old this tale actually is I only wish the tale of Dune would enjoy the success of something as dull as star wars, thank you for this awesome video explaining Dune.
Did F. Herbert originally mean Butlerian Jihad to be "literal" physical conflict or was that how later writers interpreted Herbert's world? I admit I never truly read beyond second story due to reasons, but I could've sworn that Jihad was meant to be spiritual and ideological event, rather than literal physical altercation.
well in Islamic thought there are different kinds of jihad like the obvious military aspect like the conquests of the Rashidun Caliphate but there is also some idea of an inner jihad which is about changing yourself Frank Herbert was probably aware of this
The Dune encyclopedia (not written by Herbert, but published with his approval) suggests it to be more something akin to an interstellar Cultural Revolution, with the implication being that far more humans were actually killed by jihadists than by robots. Basically, there was physical conflict, but the original intent seems to have been less “man vs. machine” and more “man vs mechanist”.
The creativity and originality of Herbert's work is truly amazing. There is so much to adore. I see the similarities to our universe. We harvest oil from the Earth to be used for travel.
I only ever successfully read the first one, but I always had the feeling that the precience aspect of melange and most especailly its use by the Spacing Guild were secrets that weren't shared outside of the Fremen and the guild. Most people only took enough to extend their lives, not enough to cause prescience that anyone would notice or blue-tinted eyes. Somethinb I'm surprised you didn't note, Arrakis wasn't always a wasteland and the Zensunni didn't always live there. The Zensunni were driven off a different world and made it to Arrakis as reffugees. And once Arrakis had open water. Someone did that to the planet. But basically a good effort. I'm just nitpicking here.
It's not really possible for anyone to do that to the planet since the worms, which are a product of the desert, could've only evolved into their current state after millions of years - long before humanity. I think it's more implied that Arrakis is just the aftermath of a mass extinction or major climactic changes.
This video is just amazing. Both the way it is presented visually as well as the very streamlined explanations. I loved the way the history before the movie was told in this destilled form and those 25 minutes really flew by fast. I am very grateful for this level of quality you put into this video!
We've got a whole episode on "Growing Up Fremen" ruclips.net/video/ATi1dZ6xAxQ/видео.html
I just now notice how much warhammer 40k lore is based around Dune
Oh yeah, BIG time.
Warhammer 40k is basically just Dune with some other stuff mixed in (Starship Troopers, D&D, etc.) Love me some 40k, but it's far from original.
Not based.... straight up highjacked lol
Based? I mean I love 40k but some are straight rip offs lmao,like Tallarn are literally Fremen.Remember the capital of Taros-Tarokeen? Rings some bells now? Lmao
@@justinius2170 I will forever believe someone was trying to make a Dune game, realized they would never get the license, and had to figure out something else because they were really happy with what they came up with.
I just saw the movie and was itching for something like this, brilliant
Read the book it'd more in depth
How was it?
Same, just returned from the cinema. Nois movie.
Going tomorrow afternoon to watch it
The books contain everything you need to know about the movie, it's the best starting point
“Welcome to Arrakis gentlemen. I will not lie, your chances of survival are small.”
-Duke Leto Atreides, probably
Is Arrakis, Dune? Like is it the same planet with 2 names?
@@ramboeastwood1522 yes ,
Arrakis is Dune
@@raezeal1608 thank you
*- Sardaukar priest starts throat singing Paranoid -*
He 100% knew he was walking into a death trap.
This is one of the better introductions to Frank's universe.
Half of it isn't actually Frank's, though.
@@PasserMontanus It's still part of the Dune universe tho
YES, without a hint of Brian's nonsense!!
As someone who has not yet read the book, but loved every minute of the new film, I thank you dearly for making this video!
There is an audio book, well worth it to consume the material. Also for the other books in the series as well.
the movie leaves alot out, this won't be the last Dune movie
@@ttebroc236 i heard about that, hopefully they make it a movie series
Yes the audiobooks are AMAZING and you must listen to them, for Muad'Dib's sake!
Forget the audio books,pick up the first dune book , roll one up, sit back and strap in,you will be on your way to a universe that you can't fathom!!!!
i have LOVED the world of DUNE for over 20 years, but i have never come across a brilliant retelling and detailed explanation of a rich in depth universe that is FRANK HERBERTS "DUNE". The animation was unbelievable, and the narration was so on point it was like it could have been in the actual movies/mini series. just Breathtaking attention to detail and respect for the content. keep it up :)
Check out Quinn’s Ideas! This is a great video for sure! Partial to Quinn though. The Content must flow!
ruclips.net/video/5ga4PYMKwQ0/видео.html
Feels like actual history lessons. Great!
Man it's crazy to see this franchise's fingerprints all over nerd culture- Star Wars, Star Trek, Game of Thrones...
It’s why I deserves respect and people should be patient with the first film. It was only an intro
True
Game of Thrones was more inspired by Lord of the Rings then Dune
Elder scrolls
@smilodnfatalis55 Great comment man! When I learned that the princess in Star Wars in the first drafts was carrying “aura spice” instead of plans for the Death Star, I was shocked! 😳
This was not foreseen by The God Emperor, but it is something we enjoy.
Invicta lives in a no ship.
Lucky for those Harkonnen to exist way before Astartes were a thing
For the Emperor!
The emperor protects
im loving all the references to the books here
Beautiful, the easiest to comprehend and most essential introduction to Dune I've seen so far. I love those old art illustrations and I'm glad you used them here, made me a little nostalgic.
It's fun to watch videos like this and learn just how deep some sci fi franchises today, especially Warhammer 40k, have roots in Dune. Imperium of Man, the God-Emperor, even the existence of Navigators (albeit rather decidedly different in how they work and why they're needed in 40k) owe their inspirations to these books.
Not to mention there was an AI rebellion during the Dark Age of Technology. It's basically "thinking machines" rebellion in Dune.
That's why AI is banned in both universes.
Invicta- Dune. Can’t get any better!
So like warhammer 40k?
Invicta- Stormlight Archive
If he says he will put out more videos on Dune, don’t believe him. He said the same thing about the Stormlight archive and that vid was a year ago
@@WraithLK it’s probably coming man!
@@Limozo ….. a year
The series is so well written. There are so much themes and arguments that the author makes over the course of the book it is almost like a work of philosophy than an actual fictional book. One of the few fictional books i ever liked reading. The author is a genius
You have made me *INFINITELY* happy by basing this on the Dune encyclopedia and not BH's books.
This! If Villeneuve gets his Part 2, I really hope he can find a way to bring the Dune Encyclopedia back in to print, except make it the official lore book for the film series.
My fingers were crossed when I started this video.
Call me stupid, but what exactly is the difference?
Should the encyclopedia not collect the information given by the books?
Or do the games have better storys?
@@molybdaen11 Brian Herbet's storys and 'prequel' books are _technically_ the canon story of Dune, but they are so notoriously terrible and simplistic that fans reject them as fan fiction. They're that bad. In doing so, many have instead taken the semi-canon Dune Encyclopedia over BH's garbage.
@@AtticusAmericanus Ah, so the encyclopedia is just a more refined product because they had the time to build the world without creating a story first.
Honestly I think this is your best video yet. The art, the research, the narration, everything is better than most of what's out there
Basically the Landraad is less like the UN and more like the HRE
Came here for this comment! As " um actually" as it sounds it's a fairly significant distinction, and makes the basic structure easier to understand for anyone with a passing interest in the holy Roman empire like myself.
That is not the only reference to HRE. The imperial house act like the Emperor of the HRE. The spacing guild sounds like the hanseatic league.
great comments all round. Thank you
@Sergio Ortiz I forgot to mention the circles from 9:54 are similar to Imperial circles of the HRE.
More info:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_circle
Thanks for the compliment.
It means lands council in dutch
The cultures in the book series, the history, the ecology of Arrakis and the worms are so well realized its no wonder Dune is a foundational work in understanding worldbuilding
Woah! Seeing you in an MCDM shirt with the Dune board game brings me to a full circle. I found Matt through the Dune boardgame episodes and then his running the game series.
He's been wearing it a lot lately. I love it.
the earth elemental steps on your head, to make sure that you're dead
Stunning work. As someone who's never read Dune or even seen the movies, you now have me deeply interested in the series. Good job.
P.S. The narrator's voice is buttery smooth. :D
I'm almost finished with the first book of the House trilogy, which directly precedes the original Dune novel, and it is definitely worth looking into.
Dune is definitely worth checking out. The new movie from what I’ve heard is a good introduction to the universe other than the first book.
My advice is don’t go in expecting Star Wars or Star Trek.
Does this video have any spoilers to the 2021 dune movie?
@@thegamemasterBR
It's more giving you a background on the situation preceding the movie, so you'll have a little background.
@@eldorados_lost_searcher OK in what order should I read the books
Seriously it took me 5 hours to watch the new movie due to how much rewinding to try and take it *all* in was necessary! Sooooo much to love! A faithful and appreciative telling yet with their own take on things done *right*
Gonna be watching it again and again today
You should definitely do these kinds of lore videos more often. love all of it real and fantasy. Legend of Galactic Heroes would be awesome
Man, Legend of the Galactic Heroes would be a great undertaking...
@@plamenminchev6563 I think so for sure. And it would be easy to be spoiler free just doing the lead up to where the show is. So much history for empire free planets and pezzain
@@Graus4201 Just the backstory and lore would fit at least 2-3 videos.
If we dive into ship types and historic figures... Even more
The renewal of interest in Dune in the public eye is an excellent thing to see. My favourite SciFi IP for sure.
Well this is a surprise, didn't expect this channel to move from actual history to works of fiction. Somebody must be a big fan of the series.
So I knew absolutely nothing about Dune before watching this video and this was exactly what I was hoping to find to help introduce me to this universe. Thank you so very much for you and your team's hard work in this endeavor.
Glad to see this like the Stormlight Archive one you did which I also very much enjoyed (I was impressed you managed to be so informative without spoiling any of the big plot twists behind the setting).
one crucial piece of information is missing: the correlation between sand trouts and sandworms was not widespread knowledge. Among others, the Corrino Emperors and the Guild itself did not knew it.
Yeah, this lack of knowledge is why starting a new Spice cycle elsewhere always failed.
Anyone trying to set up a Spice cycle tended to take adult worms from Dune and transplant them, but the only result of that was the death of the worm.
The worm cannot live anywhere unless the sandtrout has terraformed the place for the worm first.
Also the sand plankton are somewhere between nest and sand trout; it's unclear in the books
OMW GALAXY ON FIRE IT'S BEEN SO LONG IS IT STILL ON THE APP STORE?!!
It is 5 minutes in and the narration has already covered basically every relevant point GW yoinked from Dune for their 40k setting. I'd say "4 minutes of actual video content" since those first 5 minutes includes the ad, but I'm sure there's at least one idea in the board game being advertised that was also stolen by GW. :D
True. Somehow i do enjoy the rip-off more
GW likes to rip off original creator content and then issue cease and desist orders, and or sue the creator.
@@ozminuteman I enjoy Warhammer but this is very true
What yall don't realize is dune wasn't good till recently , maybe from the 2020s on you'll see stuff inspired by dune but I highly doubt anyone watched the same shitty b movie I did and thought " yes this is the failed ip I'm going to steal from" just saying
The desert takes the weak. My desert, my Arrakis, MY DUNE!!!
Baron Vladimir harrkonnen!!!
I have been a Dune fan for years. This video has added to my understanding and appreciation of what a wonderfully complex and astonishing place the Dune Universe is.
Wow, I find myself addicted to the lore of Dune. Never really heard of it until now and it's amazing.
Happy for ya.
I went to watch Dune without any prior knowledge of its lore, and this video cleared up some things for me. Thanks!
yes it cleared up this "landsraad" business. as in, whos in charge? landsraad or god emperor?
Well, this was unexpected! A welcome surprise.
this was an amazing addition to the Dune movie!! thank you.
Thank you for this. I’m getting set to see the movie but have never read the books and wanted a proper foundation in the backstory of this universe without spoiling any of the story that unfolds during the movie itself. Very well done.
To see Dune presented with such stunning visuals and fully comprehensive oratory is truly a pleasure. I have always had some degree of interest in Dune but these videos have presented it in such a way that leaves u begging for more. I truly hope there are more Dune videos coming. As I understand it, apple tv has a Bene Gesserit project in development, they could definitely take some Que’s from this channel. Excellent job!!!
Well done, Invicta! Great explanations and art. It makes me even more in awe of Frank Herbert's world building.
I first read Dune as a teenager, many years ago. I have watched all the movies and series released. I am looking foward to seeing the new movie. You have made the whole story come alive again. Thank you for an excellent video!
So what did you think of that David Lynch abortion of a movie? Personally, I hated it, the sci-fi channel mini-series was much better. But it was useful to watch it once to see where Westwood Studios got their design influences for the Dune RTS games they made, and then later the Red Alert franchise based on that same gameplay mechanic.
I loved Dune since I was a teenager in the 1990’s. When I heard they were making another movie I was a little concerned but I hear it’s very good.
The only problem I have the new movie is that like this video they have the name of House Harkonnen all wrong (pronunciation wise) and the fact they taken just a tad to much liberty when it comes to design like Caryalls basically being Balloon ships and some big spice harvesting "tics" That make no sense. AND also the the Fremen uses Las Weapons (which they DO not in the book)
it looks amazing mate, the story is allright, it's just the first half of the first book
@@darth_yoda You expect everything to be like the book?.
I wouldn't want a mixture of a man/sand worm in the movies to come.
New ideas is what makes things better.
Not everybody read the book
@@reymenders5437 If you don't want a movie to follow the SOURCE material it shouldn't be made from preexisting material but should use new made to order.. When you make an adaptation you need to honor the source material its a basic fact you don't seem to understand.
@@darth_yoda What basic fact i do not know anything about DUNE only untill now.
Hell i thought Star Wars was first untill i was corrected.
Ok Darth Yoda i got a question for you
WHERE TF IS AHSOKA IN THE PREQUELS?
Ill wait
The way you have been able to convey all of the information in this video is peerless. I am impressed by the wording by the narration by the pacing and by the choice for when and how to give more in depth explanations. For me this has been an artful to experience. Thank you
To Expand, Prior to 0AG, Earth was hit by a planetoid, later returned to in "the saving of the treasures" Holtzman was born and discovered the Holtzman effect; the various phases of which are used for shields, travel etc. He eventually became part human, part machine, switching himself on and off during the period of time the video marks as various golden ages. Eventually being killed following the Butlerian Jihad (instigated when Butlers unborn child was killed pre delivery following decisions made by a thinking machine) Norma Cenva instigates the creation of the spacing guild by completing the first spice assisted travel using the holtzman drive and those people from earth? They became the Zensunni, ordered by the Padishar emperor to locate a new home, eventually settling on... POW! Arrakis - becoming the Fremen after being forced into the desert by the occupants at the time.
This video is really good! It has enough depth to be thorough but it doesn't end up being a total info dump - cheers guys!
After watching Dune I've become so obsessed with the franchise
As someone who has read/listened to all 6 original books, I never knew there was a board game for Dune, so thanks for letting me know that. Second, this is a GREAT narratively and artistically fitting explainer for everything leading up to the first book. I'm still waiting to see the new movie but it sure seems like it will bring many new fans to its fold.
Dune inspired all science fiction after it, that just shows how interesting and well-made it is
This is simply excellent, the lore must flow
Well done video! One of the best synopses of Dune material I have seen so far, love the artwork.
Watched this movie in theaters. Hands down the best sci-fi/fantasy movie that’s out there at the moment.
I really felt the ‘power’ of things that were supposed to be powerful. I felt terrified for the characters when they were terrified. The consequences were truly real.
A lot of stories nowadays will tell us that something in-story-universe is ‘powerful’ or ‘scary’. But then they die instantaneously whenever the writers need a convenient death.
You never really feel the consequences or the ‘weight’ of it.
This movie did it all right. Watch it in theaters! It deserves every view it gets. They did an excellent job.
So informative; especially the coherence and cohesion are easy to follow for Dune newbie and non native English speaker like me.
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Just a heads up to any future commenters, If he says he will put out more videos on Dune, don’t believe him. He said the same thing about the Stormlight archive and that vid was a year ago.
@@WraithLK u mad bro!
@@WraithLK we do have more episodes in the pipeline for both series. Planning on releasing them this year
@@InvictaHistory ok, I’m just curious as to why it’s taken so long tho. Like surely a video that’s less than 30 min doesn’t take a year even while publishing other videos
I'd prefer the real history but you do you invicta
Seriously. This is perfect. Dune have such an amazing lore. Awesome video.
This is BADASS! Such amazing work Invitc, this content is very entertaining and Dune fit so well with your video style
This is the best and most comprehensive guide to Dune that is available on the internet. I love the videos Invicta has produced on various warrior cultures throughout human history, but when it comes to your channels videos on fictional universes, this one is by far one of the best on your channel.
More Dune lore, please. Love this universe.
Great in depth but highly understandable break down of Dune. Awesome work.
Lynch'es Spacing guild is my favorite, their wierd customs and language is so alien compared to the classicly feudal human norms the dichotomy is very visually and thematically much more interesting than Denis'es version. That being said Denis'es version is so good and best overall, very grateful for that movie. Thanks Invicta for these videos, hope to see.
This is fascinating - and way cool! Please create more Dune-related content! I would watch the heck out of that :D
Thank you so much for ALL of your content. From military history to lore, it has helped me learn more about Warhammer fantasy and get inspiration for the games I run and play. I read the first book last year in anticipation for the movie and it changed the way I look at fiction.
Thank you for making great videos that I can recommend to newcomers of sci-fi and fantasy.
P. S. Great shirt btw, definitely didn’t slip my notice.
I have been waiting for YEARS for Dune to finally make it big and I’m absolutely beside myself that we are finally getting fantastic content for it. I’m desperately hoping for the stories of the Cymeks, Omnius and Erasmus to be fleshed out as well.
This was soo cool guys! I loved every second of this video. Please more dune content! You guys kick butt, such professional videos!
Truly one of the best explanations of lore I’ve ever seen. Methodical, clear, concise, and great visuals. Not to mention the superb narrator that made the video come alive. I truly wish other fictional franchises had this level of explanation, especially the more complex ones.
Kudos to everyone involved. A very informative and detailed piece.
Was this based on the Dune encyclopedia? Anywa...very good video, good illustrations and very good narration.
Yes, most of the information was from there
@@InvictaHistory Where can I buy the dune encyclopedia?
Amazing.
Invicta covers history, and future history. They must be frequent users of the spice Melange to have such prescience.
I need Stellaris mod for this this!!!
It also interesting that they incorporate Crusaders and Islam in the books. The Fremen are supposedly the Muslim in the future and Paul Atreides is their Mahdi, the leader that will come before the coming of Messiah according to the Koran. The Saudakar are the blood-thirst Crusaders. In the original movie of 1984 (based on the books), Paul became the Prophet himself. I already know how the movie goes but I really can’t wait for the sequel!!!!!!
Arrakis exist in stellaris as a random system. There are also sand worms and Zro. But no spice adiction :)
@@molybdaen11 i really need the old Dune mod back. missing that one. :(
I recently saw the new Dune movie and liked it a lot, now I reeaaaallly hope they will make the sequel.
If your a sci Fi fan and like to read get the first book, it will take you to a world"s" you can't fathom in your deepest darkest imagination
This was a superb video break down of a complex story and fictional universe .
I just saw the 1984 film at a bad movie night, and a lot of that film now makes sense.
I can understand now why the 2021 film is split in two. I've been skeptical about Warner films splitting films in two since Harry Potter 7, but this one seems justified.
As someone who has only just discovered the work of Frank Herbert it is crazy how far ahead of his time his thinking was in terms of interstellar travel and humanity's goals and aims.
He is the King of all the land
In the Kingdom of the sands
Of a time tomorrow
He rules the sand worms and the Freemen
In the land amongst the stars
Of an age tomorrow!
- Iron maiden- To tame a land
That song was my introduction to the series!
""To Tame a Land" was meant to be entitled "Dune" after the novel, but after seeking permission from Frank Herbert's agents, the band received a message which stated, "Frank Herbert doesn't like rock bands, particularly heavy rock bands, and especially bands like Iron Maiden" and were forced to change the name." (from wiki)
The political constellation of the empire is pretty similar to the Holy Roman Empire with a rather weak, not absolutist, emperor and a strong parliament. The references to history are just great!
As a Warhammer 40 k fan when they said "serve the imperium and the emperor", i had chills down my spine !!
Damn man thank you so much for making this. I was never into Dune all that much because I just wasn't really exposed to it, but figured I'd watch the movie anyway since it looked kind of cool. Watching this first gave me a much better platform to understand the movie from. I enjoy sci-fi a lot, and now that I've watched this video I'm going to be getting into Dune quite a bit deeper. Thank you!
What makes Arrakis frustrating is that the humans can't really do anything to improve the environment like killing the sand worms or change the atmosphere and soil to make it less hot and hazardous, even if it's within their technological capability. Because any changes to the ecosystem of Dune can potentially cripple the spice production. The substance is produced through the elaborate process where every part of Arrakis' ecosystem plays a role.
So there is no way to live here then just accept the world as it is and go with the flow.
Did you read the rest of the Dune books? The eventually do that. Heck, they even start doing it a bit while Paul is still Emperor.
In Dune, it is mentioned that Arrakis had "recently opened itself to new lifeforms." This suggests that the Fremen terraforming project was already well underway when House Atreides arrived.
@@Despotic_Waffle Spoilerino my dude
Surely we could drop a few ice asteroids at strategic points.
No need to destroy all deserts with the worms but reducing they size to maybe 50% should benefit everyone on dune.
@@RedLancerMoto The relevant books have been out for 40+ years, my dude
I loved this, ur adaptations of the looks for each race, ship and place etc look mind blowing and honestly i can see the love for this world u guys have, keep getting the bread
So this is what Warhammer 40k low key ripped off.
Was inspired by, all stories borrow elements of those that came before, it's because Dune is so good that it has heavily inspired so many modern science fiction writers today.
@@Blottingpaper thats true. Frank Herbert's Dune inspired many sci-fi stories. The only reason Dune wasn't as popular during it's time is because it lacked the thing that made sci-fi cool then, robots and space lasers lol
@@BeeOppresion Ironically, the omission of robots was by design, and lasers (or lasguns in the book) are also written out for being too dangerous for modern warfare.
@@umjackd
Shields are always worn by fighters and when hit by lasguns, a near atomic type explosion results that would kill everyone in the vacinity, including the shooter.
It seems not even that low key 🤣
Love it when a history focused channel delves into the a fictional history!! 👌🏼
Woah dune lore
Glad to see your channel branching out
Quite entertaining and informative, also, the narrator's voice made the experience that much better.
The spice must flow
Congratulations on making what is possible the best Dune lore video out there now.
We cover the history of the Sardaukar here: ruclips.net/video/jKEYSQU0VAE/видео.html
I prefer Frank Herbert's version of the Butlarian Jihad... where it was mankind using machines to enslave and control people. Not some AI war like Brain Herbert's thing, it goes completely against the original philosophy.
Why not mention the north african history and Islam history that inspired the lore ? No one noticed the amount of references and arabic words in the movie ?
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How realistic do you suppose it is that humanity reverts back to feudalism in the far future?
A lot with advance of automation of both physical and mental works feudalism seems a good alternative to small communities which are self sustaning.
I haven't seen the new movie yet (I don't do subscription services!) but I have read the book. First time I read it was in 2018 after getting into fantasy novels and looking for something similar to ASOIAF in my local library and DUNE was highly recommended by my friends. I LOVED IT! I enjoyed it so much I also bought the prequel books recently. One thing that confuses me is why so many people say that the story is difficult to adapt to a movie. The plot is very well structured and the world building is not very convoluted. It is honestly one of the easier sci-fi/fantasy books to adapt into a movie or even TV.
This really makes the lore easier to understand.
Please keep up with the Lore videos. They are awesome! Loved your Stormlight Archive one and would love to see more like this!
Someone explain to me why, if the spice is this essential, the Emperor/Empire just doesn't take over Dune itself but instead gives it to the other houses to control? You'd think something that important and lucrative wouldn't be entrusted to anyone but the Emperor.
@@jakobinobles3263 As you said to maintain order and not having all Houses teaming up against them. From the video you can see that the Imperial house actually only has 100 votes in the Landsraad. Tho they have control to rule others, they still have to maintain their image and position with the landsraad.
My other point would be that ruling an empire is already hard enough to add also the weight of maintaining spice production on a literal wasteland planet.
Because the Fremen are the best fighters around and can eat an Imperial Sardoukar for breakfast. See what happened when Paul Muab-dib unleashed them on an unsuspecting galaxy.
@@jakobinobles3263 this is not how real history works check how roman emperors treated my country egypt with it being emperor literal property within no senator allowed to visit it with out his blessings with the governor being the only governor in the empire to belong to the equestrian ranks all of that and Egypt was far less important than arakis and the spice
@@jakobinobles3263 like bro Britain had a similar problem in India and guess what they ended up taking direct control over it despite it being in the other half of the world so yes in comparison even if arakis was on the other half of the galaxy from the capital it only makes sense for him to take direct control over it and give it a special status make it the fifif of the heir for example or appointment a special governor on it from a lower class anything would have been more realistic than just giving it to another house
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl The British Empire removed control of India from the East India Company not because it wanted to retain control of the trade, but because of a series of avoidable disasters that had occurred under the EIC's rule. And while that occurred in 1858, you have to remember the Suez Canal was completed only 11 years later.
Even so, the Crown did not have direct control over the Raj, they sent a Vice Roy who ruled in the Empires name. That Vice Roy was selected by the Empire and could be removed by the Empire, but essentially ruled India in the Empires stead. While the Vice Roy may have been given broad instructions, how he did that was essentially left to him to decide, which is almost EXACTLY what is happening on Arrakis. A vice Roy is appointed and his/her task is to ensure the Spice flows. How they do that is up to them.
In fact choosing how Britain ran India as your example of why the Emperor should take control is literally the worst example historically you could have chosen.
dude you killed it this was beautiful
The science behind the lore is perhaps the most well thought out of any science fiction I know!
That was great! Thank you for your work and passion.
I scrolled past all of these episodes so many times thinking that they wouldn't offer anything of note. I've been reading all things Dune for over 45 years, but in fact l did run across some revelations that were of interest.
As Lord of the Rings is to Fantasy, Dune is to Sci-Fi. So many sci fi tropes come from dune.
Just seen the movie for the first time absolutely loved it and was shocked to find out how old this tale actually is I only wish the tale of Dune would enjoy the success of something as dull as star wars, thank you for this awesome video explaining Dune.
Did F. Herbert originally mean Butlerian Jihad to be "literal" physical conflict or was that how later writers interpreted Herbert's world? I admit I never truly read beyond second story due to reasons, but I could've sworn that Jihad was meant to be spiritual and ideological event, rather than literal physical altercation.
Jihad is physical warfare according to Islam.
well in Islamic thought there are different kinds of jihad like the obvious military aspect like the conquests of the Rashidun Caliphate but there is also some idea of an inner jihad which is about changing yourself Frank Herbert was probably aware of this
Undoubtedly both
The Dune encyclopedia (not written by Herbert, but published with his approval) suggests it to be more something akin to an interstellar Cultural Revolution, with the implication being that far more humans were actually killed by jihadists than by robots. Basically, there was physical conflict, but the original intent seems to have been less “man vs. machine” and more “man vs mechanist”.
@@Replis No, the big struggle i in your head.(loose translation)
Amazing production quality wow
Man, that narration is so damn good.
Dune was goddamn incredible. I was glued to the screen for the entire runtime and that score was absolutely flawless. Def worth seeing at the theater.
Right as soon as you hear the sardukar throat singer say" dreams are messages from the deep" you were hooked right
What a nice surprise, please merge your production, narrative and artistic skills with more fantasy lores
Watched it tonight, amazing movie. Denis is a fantastic film maker, and the film had an amazing soundtrack and awesome cast.
Just after getting my kindle and i'm planning to get all the books of dune and read them.
I go for the audiobook versions myself. I listen to them while working.
The creativity and originality of Herbert's work is truly amazing. There is so much to adore.
I see the similarities to our universe. We harvest oil from the Earth to be used for travel.
I only ever successfully read the first one, but I always had the feeling that the precience aspect of melange and most especailly its use by the Spacing Guild were secrets that weren't shared outside of the Fremen and the guild. Most people only took enough to extend their lives, not enough to cause prescience that anyone would notice or blue-tinted eyes.
Somethinb I'm surprised you didn't note, Arrakis wasn't always a wasteland and the Zensunni didn't always live there. The Zensunni were driven off a different world and made it to Arrakis as reffugees. And once Arrakis had open water. Someone did that to the planet.
But basically a good effort. I'm just nitpicking here.
It's not really possible for anyone to do that to the planet since the worms, which are a product of the desert, could've only evolved into their current state after millions of years - long before humanity. I think it's more implied that Arrakis is just the aftermath of a mass extinction or major climactic changes.
@@keshav3479
Or, someone put them there.
This video is just amazing. Both the way it is presented visually as well as the very streamlined explanations. I loved the way the history before the movie was told in this destilled form and those 25 minutes really flew by fast. I am very grateful for this level of quality you put into this video!