The New GPD Win 4 Pro Has More Power Than Ever! Ryzen 7840U & Oculink!
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- Опубликовано: 10 дек 2024
- The New 2023 Win 4 is here and it has more Power than ever! GPD has upgraded the Win 4 for 2023 by adding The Ryzen 7 7840U and an Oculink eGPU Port that pairs up very well with the new GPD G1 Radeon RX 7600M XT!
In this video we do an unboxing, go over the specs, Run some Benchmarks test some AAA Games on the Radeon 780M iGPU and we even test out the GPD G1 RX 7600M XT eGPU Over the new Win 4 Oculink port.
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this is what SONY should have make, a fully gaming handheld but they go make the remote play handheld 🤦♂️
Would be cool to have a pocket PS4, that's how good these APUs are getting
@@EzaneeGires You're not kidding! Especially if resolution is 900 or 1080P - with a 6 or 7'' screen, they'd DEFINITELY be able to make a portable PS4 with slightly reduced max resolution - but with screens that size it would be optimal!
it would have been amazing if they made a powerful handheld that was compatible with PS4 and PS5 games and simply used tricks like upscalling and lowering graphics on the device itself to make them run. The Vita was a great device but it lacked developer support. By just going for the PS4-5 game library you remove that problem completely. There is only a few problems with a device like that. What would be the price. How long would the battery last and what happens to those who have all their games on discs.
@@EzaneeGires that is literally what a PS Vita is (or was) supposed to be. Nobody wanted one though
@@PuroKross I think the spirit of the comment was in the current timeframe with modern specs. I owned a Vita BTW, I loved it. But over time the support for it dropped like crazy. Now it's borderline possible to get PS4 level performance or greater in a handheld and like a commenter above said, to have our existing library available without having to repurchase them would be a game changer
This one has by far the best design of its kind
Thanks! Please more videos with eGPU: new cases, new tests etc.
Very interesting topic: eGPU with different devices.
I do love that design. The hidden keyboard and that standard Oculink port really takes the cake. But wow... With all these handhelds popping up, the resulting price wars are finally pushing these down to where they are really appealing. As much as I love my Deck, I'm really starting to think about moving to one of these other handhelds. It's just trying to decide between this, the Ally, or even the new OneXFly. Though the faster RAM on this and OneXfly is a big upside. I would prefer a slightly larger screen, but the keyboard and Oculink port may lock me straight onto this thing.
Occulink is an open standard too, ya can't get an enclosure and add your desktop graphics card :)
I love that more and more of these handhelds are coming out. I cant afford one just yet but when I think about what will be available in a year or two...good times.
It would be nice to see a side by side performance difference between the 2 igpu's from the 2 different models.
It’s barely noticeable. About 10-15%
I was thinking it would be cool to see the difference between the oculink and USB connection from the 7600m xt as well.
He doesn’t compare devices on this channel
agreed
Not much difference
Every hour a new handheld is born!
I have the 6800u version and I absolutely love it! I am playing games I that have been in my backlog forever, since if I'm at my desktop I'm gaming not dinking around.
i wonder when we will start seeing foldable handhelds where the screen folds to double the size
I would love a slimmer variant without the physical keyboard or maybe use the extra space for a bigger battery. Also Hall effect Sticks should be default in every high end handheld now.
True!
@@shraf2kay Main question is size. Steam deck/ROG Ally too HUGE. Its not a portable gaming. Its just room gaming. U cant place Ally in ur pocket and go to work/nature. U need case or backpack for it. Use at dock-station or most long travel u will have to toilet.
Win4 is near PS Vita about size. And this is PORTABLE gaming. Already bough new revision and just wait when it comes to me. :3
And price too. Ally is overprice and more weak than Win4.
@@shraf2kay Smaller what? Price or size?
@@shraf2kay Nice joke! Excellent joke!
28x11x3,2 Ally
against
22x9,2x2,8 Win4.
U need to be comedian! :)
Sad, but RUclips blocks links. Just find comparison of sizes Ally vs Win4 at Google. And switch to photos. Ally is little less than Steam deck. 2 cm. Win4 less at 8 cm. Are u sure?
Win4 black 7640U 16/512 at Indeigogo was at 700$ price. Ally cheaper? Really? Same price for this HUGE mamoth without touchpads and keyboard? Funny. :D
Ally and Steamdeck better than Win4 only for 1 option. Advertising from COLOSSES of our world Valve and ASUS. Ofc all knows about Ally/Deck and want it, but nobody knows about Win4 and dont make acessories. That's all. But chinese star still rising like Xiaomi.
@@shraf2kay It's bigger, single USB-C port (even their mobile phone has two USB-C), no hall effect sticks, and the battery is still small.
Would love to see a detailed benchmark with games to see the difference between being hooked up via usb4 vs occulink.
If the DPad really does feel like the Vita's then that's a huge deal for me. The Series X or Xbox "Core" Controller (as they call it) is pretty great, but I never pulled off moves as flawlessly with a DPad as I did with the Vita.
(I wish Valve would've used this one. It's decent for things like platformers, but I hate Steam Deck's Dpad for 2D fighting games. It basically makes me avoid a whole genre of games I could be playing.)
I'd love a Steam Deck with the portability and keyboard of GPD.
I'm also a vita button enjoyer
Yeah vita's dead was goated, those games of marvel and streetfighterxtekken had some of the most fun I've in those games because of how good the controls were
This handheld design is so goddamn cool I wish we could get a somewhat bigger model with a bigger screen and a bigger trackpad
And a OLED screen
@@DoubleDragon5180 And a good enough battery, I'd pay top dollar for that
I agree! This would be an instant buy with a bigger screen🔥
how bout bigger screen BUT more pocketable/3DS XL larger from
@@kelvinchewjwyeah no
These new handhelds are coming out like freaking hotcakes jfc
This is by far the best handheld ive seen
We are really living in the future now, GPD deliver something out of dream.
If you have tasted one 7840u handheld, u have pretty much tasted all the 7840u handheld
Just a matter of form factor, screen specs, and battery capacity being the differences.. and the integrated keypads
7840u handhelds are like women. Although they might all have the same internals, they feel different in the hands, and definitely DON'T taste the same
I want them to put a variable refresh rate display on on these handhelds. With the lower power they could really use it.
It would be nice to see an Video with an High End Desktop GPU connected over Oculink and see if it can Handle +120 FPS
Looks like PSP
Exactly like it
That's literally the point. GPD was trying to make it look like a PS Vita.
No waaaayyyy
The big difference is that it is a thicc boy
captain obvious
wow, what an incredible look, it looks like a PSP.
Beautiful unlike the other ugly Switches
Can't wait to see a head to head comparsion between ayaneo air 1s and gpd under the same watt😊
They will be nearly identical....just like they are nearly identical to the 6800u devices.
While they keyboard is way more useless then youll realize and the gpd is pretty uncomfortable because of how bulky it is, with its small battery and screen that is .5" smaller, the gpd will be the better buy. The 6" screen on the gpd 6800u i felt was too small for a lot of modern games. Heck the steam decks 7" screen sometimes makes it tough for certain games like ffxiv. Half an inch is a lot when your talking screen sizes this small. Compare the switch lite to the full switch to get an idea. Or something like a normal sized iphone or samsung to the plus sized models.
I love this design aesthetic so much, it's what the PS vita should've been
The best handheld this year.
got my 6800u version this year and don’t regret it.
@@vergodagoat same, buying the refresh would be unnecessary. Unless the new link port is going to be used.
onexfly coming
@@djblackshadow22 emphasis on coming
@@juansalgado6212 USB 4 port is more useful than the oculink port imo, helped greatly when reflashing the OS due to switching out the ssd
I really like the design, keyboard, and the "PS Vita-esque" design. However, the screen size is too small, and I have been having problems reading small texts in most games in Steam Deck already (7" screen), like Forza Horizon 5. So I will pass.
Guess we will see how well those oculink ports age. Considering the fact they where designed as internal ports I don't have much hope for them.
I need to get my hands on this one ... man it looks so freaking awesome.
Was happy did not buy they other one 😅
The external gpu still shows best that it really doesn´t matter what kind of apu they throw in the build in gpu is still by far the limiting factor and will probably be for the foreseeable future. We are just right at the entry level where it is good enough to work ok.
Makes you however look forward too the next generation of apu´s.
“Stay tuned tomorrow as I’ll feature an even MORE powerful version!”🙄
😂
long time sub, Love your videos, you cheer me up, with all your new tech man. I wish I could get those connections!!
the best handheld gets even better!!!
I love seeing the keyboard.
Glad to see they're iterating, but I'm good with my 6800u model. It really is powerful enough for what I'm using it for. Not looking to replace my desktop, just using it to play indies or lower fidelity games (Octopath 2) plus Dolphin, Cemu, and PS2 emulation.
That said, if you're on the fence about this form factor, I 10/10 would recommend. The optical mouse and keyboard makes it so versatile and convenient to manage and navigate files or setup. I don't think I could get a handheld without these built in hardware features now. The size is just perfect too
Damn I just bought the ROG Ally, too. I do like the Ally, but I have been eyeing the GPD Win4 for a while and I knew they were gonna make a 7840U version, but at the time I bought the Ally, I wasn't aware that GPD had actually lowered the prices for their base models. I think the 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD is the same price as the Ally at $699.99, and the 32GB RAM is just a tad higher, which is the one I would wanna get. I love my Ally, but I have one major problem with my Ally that makes me go back and use my Steam Deck: THE D-PAD. I love playing Street Fighter 6, but if I wanna play it handheld, I literally have to whip out the Steam Deck since it's damn near impossible to play fighters with that circle d-pad on the Ally. My favorite style of d-pad is the Playstation d-pads and the Win4 has the Vita-style d-pad, and THAT ALONE would make me be willing to trade in/sell my Ally for/towards a Win4 7840U if I could. The physical keyboard under the sliding screen is also a plus. The d-pad just seems like it'd be awesome for fighters, and I've heard a few reviewers say as much.
Why ROG is better
12:12 casually explains his setup but omits to mention that THING to the right
That's a speaker iirc
He did a review of that Bluetooth speaker. Better looking than performing but that's the modern age
I'm happy with my gpdwin4 6800U, the mouse on the right is great, less a fan of rear triggers that aren't too well placed or aren't big enough. I ordered the G1. I would like to know if it is possible to manually change the usb/thunderbolt connector for the Oculuslink connector? if it's complicated? show it just in case. to know if visually there is a big difference with and without the oculuslink? ( I am French sorry if I express myself badly ^^ )
Having usb is better than having occulink but no usb
oclink is stronger than usb4, but 80fps and 100fps don't make much difference to me
How long do you have the gpd?
@@impeace1012 march with indigogo
Oh, I love the design on this one! I really want this, especially with the Occulink connection. I wonder if GPD will release more powerful mobile AMD eGPUs? But for $800+ dollars....I dunno. I'll wait for a sale and maybe if they annouce a new eGPU later down the line. ETA PRIME...think you bring all these 7840 mobile devices and benchmark them side-by-side? Seems like they all run about the same, but surely one of them run better than the rest?
A more powerful eGpu means more power consumption and larger volume. If you don’t care about the volume, you can DIY eGpu yourself
Droix did what you want in recent video comparing many devices.
I'm a Forza guy, and one feature of the XBone/Series controllers that I find indispensable, given my gameplay settings, is rumble triggers that let me know when I'm nearing traction limits on throttle and braking in Motorsport and Horizon, so it'd be great to know when these handheld gaming PCs feature rumble triggers (or even basic rumble), if any of them do...
The Ally does rumble, but no trigger rumble.
I feel like this is the most smexy handheld on the market ATM. Pardon me if I missed it but how is the battery? You stated its bigger than the steamdeck so im guessing its pretty good battery life?
It's only 10% bigger, so the battery life should be almost the same. Steam Deck is very well optimized.
not in my opinion, the steam decks battery didn't last that long for steam games compared to GPD win4 (6800U). Steam deck also overheated and the fans were too loud, literally a jet engine loll.
Could you please show us some raytracing tests at 1080p medium/high settings on the G1?
Look's like it's a very interesting device. Test with rtx3080 via OcuLink needed!
How much better is battery life with the 7640u vs 7840u shown here?
I have 6800u version very happy with the little touchpad im able to play SWTOR.
Was looking for its review few hours ago and now u posted this video thanks man
Makes me so tempted to upgrade from my 6800U version!
Crazy how the GPD and eGPU Time Spy scores are better than my PC gaming rig - So my GPU is actually a little better but my cpu is older and is only hitting around half the performance of the Ryzen.... But the convenience of a portable device and then being able to dock at home and not have a large PC sitting there is very appealing..
Can't wait for Zen 5 powered handhelds
Amazing! thanks for video!
I love that desktop background!
It’s the default Windows 11 background 🤦♂️
GPD really needs to add OLED to their devices.
i love these handheld pcs, I cant justify buying one just yet but man im excited to see what will be out when i can
This shits badass gonna cop this later
GPD should also improve to provide better software / overlay compared to the competition, especially like AYANéo
Forreal. Their software suuuuuucks
Sold my ayaneo for this reason, i cant get over how buggy their software overlay was for few months, even with release few fixes
Prices are a bit ridiculous. I dropped my steam deck and some of my buttons stopped working
Looks like someone pulled the trackpad right from my old Blackberry..
Could you compare this against ROG Ally with the XG Mobile 4090.
The xg mobile 4090 would destroy this egpu. This is closer compared to the XG Mobile 6850m xt
That Gbdwin 4 pro really looks like psp and that's why im interested of that because a while ago I was interested of psp and psvita consoles. Gbd wins looks powerfull too like Aya neos. Handheld videos are best. 🔥🔥
As a user of the 6800U version, been satisfied with it so far
Easy to bring in a bag and to work for those lunch breaks
This is how you make a handled PC. Not like that impudent identity crisis ALLy
Could you make a video showing how to set up the gpd G1?
Cannot wait to get my hands on this. Ill get the G1 later but omg i cant wait
best computer channel period.
How do i know what gpd4 has the oculink if usually they dont describe on amazon or ebay? Is it that all razen 7 7840 have this port?
Will the WIN4 be able to output 144hz to a portable monitor without the egpu? for AAA gaming? Thanks
ChimeraOS both with and without the Oculink Dock???👀
I wonder if they have a Oculink enclosure that can fit a 3090. Get rid of my PC. I play VR games though, I wonder if this paired with a 3090 over Oculink can replace my PC?
On Amazon you can but the Oculink board and adapter to build one
@@ETAPRIME I'll have to look into that. I don't have a handheld with a Oculink board but that will be on my list when I update my WinMax 2.
you need 1dock egpu or osmeta egpu dock. both got oculink and can use desktop Gc. you need to buy power supply according to your gc requirements.
In your reviews moving forward, can you please do more benchmarking with how it runs LLMs?
When docked, can it drive a 5120x1440 monitor?
1. Expensive with small screen display.
2. Backlight bleeding
3. No customer support.
4. Taxes import. No Europe.
5. Once broken then it needs to sent back to China and waiting for 2 months.
6. Too loud fans.
7. Other issues.
I really like these small portable Mini PCs in this form factor, unfortunately this year is a loss for me, currently my mini pc is a zotac magnus en1060k, the 780m gpu chipset the 7840u has this year is comparatively to the 1060 gtx that I have already, looking to go to this form factor to hopefully use as my main desktop, but that may be next year, it just doesn't beat or have anything special to upgrade to just yet, except for the connections, next Rog Ally with AMDs next chip may do it with Zen 5 and 3.5 RDNA may do it for me, just no need to upgrade this year.
They really need to come up with compatible docks with connections to make these portables a proper desktop with connections you really require or need.
780M is nowhere near a desktop GTX 1060 6 GB. The dedicated card has 6 GB of GDDR5 192 Bit 8000 Mhz = 192,2 GB/s vs 120GB/s of the LPDDR5X 7500.
Those APUs seem a bit pointless outside of handheld systems. Take a look at RTX 4050 mobile, it has literally triple the performance compared to 780U and only uses 35-115 Watts. In fact, 4050 mobile is faster than than 6600M. You probably could buy a gaming laptop for 1/3 of the price of that GPD combo...
@@kmieciu4everWhat? Where are you buying a RTX 4050 gaming laptop for less than $300? The 512gb model of the GPD shown in this video is $840 which is where most decent lower end gaming laptops start in price.
@@kmieciu4everAlso the 780m is roughly equivalent to a laptop GTX 1650 in terms of performance. It sounds like the original commenter above was talking about a mini PC so they might be talking about a mobile GTX 1060 which would perform about the same. Either way the 780m is seriously not far off from a desktop 6gb 1060 in terms of performance most of the time. It's actually surprising how good it is in comparison.
Hey, JohnSmith, if you're wanting a smaller form factor mini PC you can actually get a barebones (needs ssd and ram) minisforum one with a ryzen 9 6900hx and a rx 6600m built in for like $500-$700 normally. It's a solid mini PC.
This but with an oled screen and I'm sold
This is crazy, it runs like my gtx 3080 at 1440p.......that that thing is huge
It's cool but by the time it comes out I'll have forgotten.
I might be one of the few that wants the OCulink and usb ports to be closer together. maybe merge the ports and and a merged connectors. they would still be seperate connections, just bother connectors in one housing so they can still be use by themselves if needed. that way it would be kinda like a single cable going to both devices.
Oh well, guess nothing wrong with using cable sleeves to keep things tidy.
How's the battery life difference with the chip change? Does the drain the battery more?
Supposedly the 7040u chips are slightly more efficient than 6000 series
@@EzaneeGiresthanks
as a owner of gpd win4 i can tell what it needs to improve for next model
- design must the same, dont change anything, keep the same dpad❤
- put the finger print sensor in the power buttom
- put the trackpad on the keyboard
- put bigger frontal speakers now there is more space after removing the finger sensor and the trackpad
- a better grip design will be nice
- oled screen
- rgb light on keyboard would be amazing
This without the keyboard would be my perfect handheld.
Finally thing with rx780m and 7500mhz ram
ARGGGH I love my Steam Deck and my Desktop Ryzen Rig but man it looks nuts being able to have a mobile solution
64 gigs of ram in a handheld got damn 😧
This is literally the best mobile PC you can buy. I wish I had the extra cash to buy one.
Hi, would like to know what desktop background are you using. Look awesome!
imagine the future RDNA's, Damn im so excited. 4k 120hz portable handheld gaming pc SHESH🔥
Fan noise will bring u back to earth quickly
Could you add Trail Makers and Teardown to your testing list? Both games will give a good cpu-gpu test as they're physics games. The latter, more so.
Man that cpu is KILLING it
Whats the difference between Ryzen 7840u and Z1extreme
IIRC, it's basically the TDP range. Z1 extreme has lower idle, I believe.
The Z1 has some parts of the silicon turned off to save on power
PS Vita and PSP GO had a baby.
I wish I could have one of this!
DAMNMIT I SHOULD HAVE WAITEDDDD!!!!
I love the form factor but for me the more interesting part is the supposed support for SteamOS they advertise on their website. You should make a video on this.
Me: Sure hope I can afford gas this week.
Eta Prime: Here's another really expensive handheld I just got. 😂
I'm sorry if this has been covered before, but where do you find that live wallpaper shown near the end of the video? The dashboard style one with the charts. Thank you!
Wallpaper engine
Hi did you review the 2024 version 8840u?
Was wondering if you could game on the handheld with the eGpu connected.
I love this form factor, does anyone find 6 inches too be too small for pc games?
Just curious?
6 inches is the ''minimal'' for such games to me - the original switch has a 6.2 inch screen whilst the OLED version has a 7 inch screen - 6 inch for 720 to 1080P resolution is excellent - but for 1080P+ resolutions, 8 inch or more would be better to notice a difference
I think it's good for games. I didn't get any trouble with that size in games but it's a bit tricky in Windows. If you use 1080p in Windows then the text is very hard to read. I use 720p and the text scaled to 125%. The problem with that is that some setting menus go outside the screen. the "apply" and "close" buttons are sometimes outside the screen. I need to temporary put the text scalling back to 100% to fix this.
The rebirth of the fan favorite psp! With more raw power
People complaining that there’s new handhelds like its a bad thing
how it not discharged in way powering on? wallpaper engine pre installed is cool!
How is the battery life for this specific one per tdp?
I know this is a nitpick and doesn't really matter in the end but still wanted to ask out of curiosity: Why aren't the buttons and joysticks symmetrical? If you look on the right half, the joystick isn't lined up with the buttons above, like most other consoles. The right joystick is also closer to the edge than the left one. I am thinking it may have something to do with it having a sliding screen mechanism.
A shame its not something we can just buy in Europe without getting shafted in customs.