Voice to Parliament is 'built on a lie' that Aboriginal people 'don't have a voice': Mundine
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- Опубликовано: 17 июн 2024
- Indigenous leader Warren Mundine says the Indigenous Voice to Parliament is “built on a lie” that Aboriginal people don’t have a voice.
“We do not need this in the constitution,” Mr Mundine told Sky News Australia.
He said to “close the gap”, the focus must be on education and employment.
“If it goes through and it’s in the constitution, then we got to make sure it actually works for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people on the ground,” Mr Mundine said.
“I’m going to be fighting for their voice on the ground.”
Warren Mundine, you are a voice of reason, a gentleman and a true Australian. Thank you.
agreed.
No he is not and funny how none of you have read any of the policy. But you know dont expect anything less out of fcking racist Murdoch drones hey.
@@adrianfleming3437 how can anyone read the policy when they wont release the full details?. That means only people who follow the Lefts ideology, will agree with it on principle.
Well said Warren!
You are a great leader!
Thank you for speaking up!
Speaking up about what? His opinion lol?
@@wuper2270 : FACTS
@@wuper2270 an informed and honest opinion.
@@martinpascoe5904 Yet all Aboriginal communities welcome him and fill any area he speaks at to capacity. Yet few others can do the same including the PM/Aboriginal Minister. Without members of the party faithful they struggle to get an audience.
Perfectly said Mundine, albo is totally useless, all he’s good at is wasting money
ONE PEOPLE, ONE NATION, ONE FLAG 🇦🇺
Ahh no.
Red Ensign
@@welcomeaboard69 well if you want to be a racist and segregationist then go ahead
Tried & FAILED in Germany & elsewhere.
@@creditelectric lol why lie so much ?
ONE MAN ( human ) ONE VOTE ,, no matter race colour or creed.
@Dick Dastardly Glad we agree there will be NO SPECIAL arrangement made for the RACIST's
@Dick Dastardly Well, it might since the powers, composition etc of the voice are to be determined by parliament so it may end up quite different to the one you think is in the referendum. Here is Albanese's draft wording of part of it - "The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to the composition, functions, powers and procedures of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice."
@Dick Dastardly Anyone wanting SPECIAL treatment or SPECIAL voice because of their race ,, surely that IS RACISM
@Dick Dastardly you are wrong.
@Dick Dastardly I also want to be recognized ( not ignored) ,,, so I need a special voice to parliament also. Once you begin this form of racism it will grow out of control as every group will want equal say.
I personally don't need to see ANY legislation because it is based on RACISM , so therefore i will oppose it. I would do the same if it was a certain group of Asians wanting special voice or Africans or Whites. Moving away from all people having the same equality is not acceptable to me
Am with you brother , education and jobs is what our people need. We are survivors not victims. Equality comes with education and employment. We are the oldest race and culture in the world. We can look after ourselves with the right tools.
Nobody is stopping ANY person getting education or employment.
What's this "we"? The people you're talking about died over 2 hundred years ago. Culture? What culture? What is there to show for the alleged time? Vote No.
@@privateAcc0unt for decades, land use and management legislation has been about greasing the rails for agenda 21..
@@privateAcc0unt We would all want THE BEST services at every town ,, but that simply cannot happen. When I was needing a job and a career path I moved to the a place those things where available to me. I do agree about decentralizing things but budgets are not without limit
@@privateAcc0unt perhaps we could do what you suggest by first holding an enquiry into where all the billions in welfare is currently being spent.
One country one people one system
yeah it’s a scam,and yes totally agree with ya Mundine
Very few people have common sense. Mr. Mundine is one man with common sense. He is experienced and knowledgeable about the needs of the Indigenous. Mr Mundine has seen plenty in his lifetime. A wise Man. God Bless. ❤️
All I know it's waste of money. Use this money to help people as this good man is talking about.
"Good man"? ? ? Mundine is a flea and is recognised as such bt the First Nation people of Australia.
Mundine nailed that one.
Good on you Warren, at last someone is telling the truth 👏 👌
Vote NO.
Labor policy, “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer”
@Mang Pike Hence WTF ? 🤣🤣😂😂 DEMENTED RAVINGS !
@Mang Pike Hence
Say no to the racist voice
Warren Mundine should be running this country. A great man
Proceed quickly, before anyone has a detailed understanding of the unintended consequences.
Its all about implementing 'Loopholes' into the constitution. Labor is little more than a WOKE Marxist Socialist group.
As always hey.
No to changing the Constitution.
Strongly agree. Constitutional changes must be looked at very carefully over many years so mistakes are minimal.
The politicians we have at the moment don't have the IQ to read the constitution let alone change it without it being a total disaster.. it wouldn't surprise me if they asked the WEF for help in writing it up...
Well said, a great man speaking the truth, thank you Warren.👍🏼
Well said Warren Mundine, this country needs people like you.
Warren Mundine needs to be a parlimentarian, his straight forward, honest and courageous retoric is just what Australia needs right now. He has my greatest respect and support.
If you vote yes to the voice you are pretty much voting to give aboriginals a gold star to wear …
How about a push for a referendum on nuclear power in this country !!
It’s the truth that sets you free!! Not some self absorbed greedy public servant in Canberra. Thank you Warren.
I've never seen any evidence that the Aboriginal community in Australia will ever change. In the 70s I can remember there being a grand debate going on, if instead of paying them with supplies we pay them with money can the men be trusted not to blow it on alcohol and gambling. Now in the 2020s, a little while back I checked in on Australian politics and the only difference in the debate is can the Aboriginal men be trusted with a credit card not to blow their wages on booze and gambling. They've been there 60 thousand years and all we hear is one list of demands after another. Jewish people really arrived in the 60s. Look at Elsternwick and other Jewish suburbs, they're beautiful. The Vietnamese had a hellish time when they arrived in Oz in the late 70s and 80s and look at them for the past 20 years they've gone from strength to strength. Australians will give any community a go, it is not a racist country and Aboriginals are at the bottom of so many charts because their own culture and attitudes. This 'Voice' thing is more bullshit. Do what everybody else does and contribute. Work and contribute.
TOO MANY LEFT WINGERS TELLING ABORIGINES THEY'RE OPPRESSED AND DOWN TRODDEN BY WHITEY. .. IT LOWERS MANY ABORIGINE'S LIFE EXPECTATIONS TO THE POINT WHERE THEY GET SO BITTER THAT WONT EVEN TRY. LEFT WINGERS ARE SO RACIST THEY THINK ABORIGINES NEED HELP TO GET THROUGH THEIR LIVES
That's right
Mainstream attitudes towards Aboriginals hasn't changed since the 70s,80s,90s,2000s,in fact it hasn't changed since 1788, bottom of the charts stop hating on Aboriginal people
How do you know Australia is not racist?I suppose it's not racist if it's in the culture and the norm to keep putting Aboriginals down and the attitudes of mainstream Australia think we belong at the bottom of many charts,grow upmaaaate😂
Aussies! We're all aussies.Black,white,multi-coloured is irrelevant.People's personality,the way we relate to others is the main game.
Mundine and Price are the best thing that's ever happened for the indigenous community
It's a load of crap.
The government helping with Aboriginal housing and schooling.
Aboriginal kid's demolishing those houses rather than go to school.
Then (like he said) people in big cities saying the small communists never get help.
at last, a man with reason who speaks the truth!
Aprtheid is apartheid no matter what else you want to call it.
Surprise surprise, Labour telling lies
This man got brains
All the people of Australia the answer is just say no we are all brothers and sisters .
Warren Mundine an Indigenous leader advising us that the Indigenous Voice to Parliament is “built on a lie” should be enough to convince Australians to vote NO in the referendum
And by what logic does that discount the 250 indigenous elders that signed the Uluṟu statement calling for an indigenous voice. This says nothing about advice all it does is confirm your bias.
@@pwillis1589
You mean those 250 Australia’s elites, including corporate Australia, media figures and Aboriginal academics.
The Uluru Statement of the Heart is not their culture and does not speak for them. Traditional owners of a particular country are the only people who can speak for that country.
A national body can’t speak for Aboriginal people as a group and Aboriginal people won’t recognise it.
Any representative group that isn’t tied to the country will have no authority to be anyone’s voice. to traditional Aborigines, the Voice will be just another bureaucratic structure that further entrenches government in Aboriginal lives.
@@graemekeeley4497 So all you did then was describe Warren Mundine. Thus proving my original reply. All you are concerned with is an opinion that agrees with your bias.
@@pwillis1589
And you sheepishly following your 250 Australian elites, including corporate Australia, media figures, and privileged Aboriginal academics.
Your statement is demonstrably false. With just the barest of effort the signatures on the Uluṟu statement include over 100 different indigenous groups. There is no corporate, media, or academic representation. Your statement is an obvious lie.
Thank you Warren.
I have immense respect for Warren. He has spoken true sense since day dot. Just like Jacinta Price. Its a pity Warrens son didn't inherit any of his fathers smarts.
They own 49% of Australian land. Let that sink in for a moment.
Yes so why aren’t they employing every so called aboriginal and not the Australian tax payers.
It’s purely greed from select groups and not sharing.
Back to the old day when it takes 30+k to build a tinny.
yeah sure,and you believe that
@@jfkfitirjdjjsisieirirjfjdj5967 land recognition that is correct.
@@privateAcc0unt red & green tape .. sounds exactly like what all land owners deal with
Well said Warren Mundine.
One very smart man
due to brandt and co, I shall vote a big NO.
I hope common-sense prevails I have young grandchildren who are half indigenous and vote will be no
its all to do with handouts
Well said Warren!
You know what you are talking about!!.
You are the voice that people want to hear.
No.
One country one legislation for ALL
Well said Mr Mundine
I am an ex Melb now living in Darwin. I am 75 and have been thru racism and nastiness,
I came here from another Country in 1961, we were wogs, all sorts. It's not only the peoples of this land, but immigrants, refugees, different religions, etc. they seem to forget that the
White people came as convicts, how we forget, I see it everyday, Darwin has the biggest
aborigines population in OZ. Peace love, compassion, tolerance, it's all a dirty word. how
sad is that,
White people came as all sorts too, no convict blood in me but I'm still a white Australian. Truth of the matter is that racism will never be over until people stop classing themselves on where they came from. If you live here, a citizen here, you're Australian. I don't care where you came from
@@joebloggs9941 Yes, I married a different nationality, always told my children to love their Country, sadly not everybody thinks like you, if they did, it would be a dream world instead of a clown world,
"Hmm, a voice to parliament. so whats that all about?" ... Silence, crickets. "?" ... "We can't tell you until it's in the constitution." OK, got it 🤦
Not jabbed. Best decision I ever made. As for those that took it and are suffering from the side effects now, what was it you said when people like me complained about being locked out the other year.......'your choice'.
Let's be honest, none of us have voice
Yeah, you poor Chinese people certainly have no voice except for you CCP trolls.
You can start with me,, no
Warren Mundine: the tip of the spear for all Australians, a true leader.
Stick your voice to parliament
So giving financially unstable people mortgages will lift the indigenous communities out of poverty? Hmmmm... Removing alcohol didn't work, harsher jail sentences hasn't worked, giving them land rights hasn't worked, giving them larger Centrelink wages hasn't worked, self governing councils hasn't worked. However mortgages will fix the problem and lift the indigenous people out of poverty, or will the government be using taxes to buy them houses? So they won't have to work like everyone else for their houses? I'm sure that will fix everything.
What a joke
Brilliant Warren!
You are a gem, Warren!! There are aboriginal M. P's. Dont they have a voice? Aboriginal people are constantly being interviewed from local to national media. Dont they have a vpise?
It always seems to be the way that the people on the ground get peanuts and those in power at the top get all the cream.
It was so 50 years ago and is worse today.
Couldn't have said it better.
I will vote no.
Wow let this man be the voice, that was so well said
Now we have an Asian woman telling an Aboriginal from Alice Springs what’s best for her and her people:
“During a tense showdown at a Senate Estimates hearing this week, the Country Liberal Party MP told Ms Wong that, as an Indigenous person, she found the idea of such a role ‘divisive’. Ms Price also invoked Ms Wong’s Malaysian heritage while making a point about the Voice to Parliament, the government’s plan to introduce an advisory body for Indigenous matters.
Ms Price asked the minister if she would accept having only 0.03 per cent of the Asian community able to make decisions that would directly impact her life. “
A voice will only split aboriginal communities even more then they are now only certain people in the communities will benefit and like now most will miss out
It’s all lies indigenous Australians are not the oldest culture in the world there are tribes we still don’t have contact with it’s all lies for tourism purposes
Excellent, helpful interview that clarified what I was instinctively thinking. Thank you, Mr. Mundine.
Well spoken. Focus on family violence and education.
What a bloody Circus. If the First Nations People can't agree what hope is there for this current proposal?
Spot on !
Great man speaking the truth. If first nation people felt under-represented at parliament the regular Joe would be protesting it's just a few rich indigenous leaders who want this "voice"
WM for PM!!! God damn why don't the rest of them have his insight? And Jacinta Price for Deputy. Get those two heads together!!! I'd understand if he didn't want the job though.
Such wisdom Warren.
Totally agree regarding education and employment. Suggest, if this doesn’t already happen, requesting all teachers in training spend some time learning from aboriginal people and their children especially in classrooms.
WARREN , is so spot on , create Employment and Education . kick the voice in the Backside"
The Voice: free money, free houses, free grog, free everything .. without having to work for it.
Education and employment hasn't worked for as long as Australia has been a country.
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Just had Mick Gooda on the ABC saying that if the yes vote does not get up then Australia will be the new South Africa
Noooooo , look at the whirlpool of discontent and hate released in New Zealand.
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Well said Warren !!!
Recognise the ability of aboriginals to take responsibility for their lives Expect aboriginals to be responsible for their own lives
Accord aboriginals the same respect as other Australians
But firstly Bring back the intervention and basics card to Deal with alcohol and grog
When adults are sober and kids have a safe home with full bellies they have the capacity to work, run a business , go to school , play sports and take care of each other
They also get better health outcomes
Human dignity comes from aspiration and opportunity
I dont beleive these governments it feels like a big game
he is the voice of reason and understands the position of both groups Most indigenous complaints come from big city dwellers not really true to their people
That’s labor for you.
Real Truth Telling.
Why can't we have more like Mr Mundine who speaks for all Australians who does not want to divide us and drive us all into poverty with a government economy destroying polices and make us more defendant on them. Everybody should be given an equal fair go for education, jobs and a comfortable life without government committees who talk but deliver nothing locally to those who really need it.
WELL WELL SAID WARREN MUNDINE WE WILL SAY ........NO TO THE VOICE TO PARLIAMENT NEVER WILL HAPPEN
Warren makes sense to me.
Thank you Warren - what happened to the more community based people like you in Government, we seem to have so many selfish public servants cemented in power. Serving the country in Government was once a more noble cause - now we over pay and under achieve in every Local and Federal Government.
I totally agree! Education and health care will do more for these peoples then just cash!.. just a total waste of time
Why these wicked people are still alive I don't know
Your a good man Warren common sense this is Australia?
Intelligent Man !!
The want to rush it through before we know it's been done.
They have a much bigger voice than me, we are about o be censored by ACMA...
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Thank you Sir. My vote is NO.
Warren for next PM
I think changing the culture to a more agrarian one will help. Teach them how to grow their own foods and animals. This will give their community more jobs, be less reliant on shipping their food from town centers.
All getting a dollar from the Aboriginal affairs how many years has this been happening
Problem is businesses are bringing in foreign workers and not training locals, sites are full of Phillipinos. Even foreign t/as that could be local people. Disgraceful
Ignore Albo's tears over the Voice, instead observe the time spent in strife stricken Alice Springs compared to the time spent at the Open in Melbourne. That's the real Albo
Go for tbe gas project well done
Build a city in NT,
What about Aboriginal children wandering around the streets of outback towns all night long?