Support For 'Voice To Parliament' Dropping As Concerns About The Yes Campaign Grow
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Polls show support for the Voice is tanking, sparking clashes between Yes campaigners over how to rally more support for the upcoming referendum. National Indigenous Officer for MUA Thomas Mayo joins us.
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I have stopped my support of the AFL as they have taken a political position.
I will no longer renew my team membership.
I'm sure the AFL won't miss you that much Peter
@@dylanmckinley5266 your correct. However my voice is just a representation of hundreds of thousands of voices in clubs who feel the same way.
@@martinpascoe5904 indeed we are botj representative of two sides of a coin and do both indeed represent many like minded people. The AFL has lost face on this.
Sorry Martin but most are getting sick of being forced to think! People like yourself are so desperate to have value and relevancy, over compensating most likely, and it shows
@@peterRobinson10101 ..agreed, along with a lot of companies.
We have a VOICE FOR ALL AUSTRALIANS. It's Called Parliament whereby aboriginal people are proportionately overrepresented according to population than any other peoples.
Show me the connection between "the voice" and improved Aboriginal outcomes. Good luck with that. And if Aboriginal outcomes dont improve, we will be stuck with "the voice" forever.
Olive Man tells black Man his history👏👏
Pay the rent Mayo!
The major sporting clubs taking a position on this is disgraceful...Stop getting political and just play the bloody game! sport is ment to be an escape from the day-to-day political and social rat-race we call life.
Too many people trying to maintain their fiefdoms, with no regard for remote indigenous communities
It is strange now to see this report considering how much we now know about the Voice and it's background. Contrary to what PM Albanese has said, the Uluru Statement FTH is 26 pages long, and no-one can fully understand the "single page" that the PM keeps referring to unless you have read the other 26 pages as they go to great length to put the body of feelings and directions that the Voice will take into context. This particularly, as the other 26 pages also go on to state that the Voice is actually the Makarrata Commission, already part funded by Albanese and Co, and proves this is just one more of the mistruths and deceptions being put forward by this man, his government and Yes supporters. If you haven't read the whole 26 page document, please do so and then ask yourselves if racial division and separatism are really what you want for our country?
The Gaurdian claim is 15 pages. I cannot find anything more than 2 pages long. Uluru documents. Written by 2 very obese white women claiming to be aboriginal. The aboriginal culture has aged 25 000 years in 1 year too. Links on net. It was 40 000 years old 1 year ago. 28000 years oldest cave painting on records by Aborigines. Australia 🇦🇺 🪃 🇦🇺 🪃 🇦🇺
So are we going to have a voice for the elderly? How about a voice for the poor? What about a voice for disabled people?
How about different ethnic groups
Proponents define a “voice” to parliament as “a voice” 🙄 Australians loathe political buzzwords & proponents seem incapable of defining it.
It’s not going to “close the gap” to give all these bureaucrats more money. Albanese should have given us just “recognition” as a choice. It is he that has offered the 35 areas (ie health organisations CEO’s) to run this thing. What a joke!
Australians are waking up to the fact, that the Voice is much more than just recognizing the indigenous in the constitution. That with the current wording, it's a possible platform for extortionists.
Noel Pearson way or the highway! Voice to parliament or the executive?
@@martinpascoe5904 No. Im going by the monthly polls, which show the gradual decline in the support for the Voice.
They were recognised in the 1967 referendum anyway
What a waste of taxpayer money! Australia already has 50 government sponsored bodies that advise parliament on indigenous issues.
Not a waste at all, actually a potential boon for Australia's GDP.
There is NOT ONE indigenous advisory body that will be maintained if the next government wants to disband it. This is why it needs to be enshrined in the constitution.
Australia's success as a free and prosperous country is founded on the idea that all humans are of equal worth. Regardless of race or ethnic background, all Australians must be treated equally by the government and by the law.
In the constitution, all Australians should have the same rights and should share the same responsibilities.
Race has no place in the Australian constitution.
Smoke and mirrors. It was once Aboriginals, then indigenous, then first nation, then first people's, then native Australians. We don't need a voice to tell us that we, they and any other person born or naturalised is an AUSTRALIAN.
Race should be as unimportant to society as hair colour. (If people really want to fixate on their race then that is their right.)
Race has no place in the Australian constitution.
And I would hope that Race has no place in the Australian politics, but this is obviously not the case.
Australia was literally founded upon terra nullius which implies that Indigneous people are simply flora and fauna and not human. Never heard of the White Australia policy? None of this has ever been amended in the Constitution therefore race IS in the Constitution already
@@dylanmckinley5266 So you feel that this ‘Terra Nullius’ is recent (up-to-date) history? Something (an article, circumstance, instance) that is highly applicable to a current debate, something that occured, or is currently an ongoing contribution factor in let's say the last decade? Okey Two decades, (a generation) no?
Or are you rather trying to rationalise (make allowance) further amplifying, and employing historic injustices?
So Terra Nullius, an 1800’s doctrine, was/is less than racially considerate? Woke.
Now there's a surprise.The question that life, circumstances were less tolerant and racially progressive prior to multiculturalism? The idea that the world of the 1800’s was sectarian, rife with poverty, disease, oppression, exploitation, profiteering, and unscrupulousness? Yes, yes it was, and I’ll assure you that every wrongdoing, crime, malpractice, misbehaviour, misdeed, offence, and violation visited upon the Indigenous Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander was also freely visited upon the greater population of the colonialist British Empire.
More simply put, Australia is doing right by the Aboriginal people.
(Australia for a couple of generations now, has been doing right by the Aboriginal people.)
@@aggressivecalm gonna have to your assurance with a gigaton of salt since you obviously don't have any substantial education in the history of colonialism throughout Australia. Doing right by Aboriginal people? Explain why Aboriginals have the highest rates of deaths in custody, are educationally disadvantaged etc. I'm sure the population didn't go through all the things that were inflicted on Aboriginal people, take the Stolen Generation for example. I suppose you believe the NT Intervention is a prime example of 'Aboriginal people being done by right' smh
The only way any present day, freeloaders and (part) indigenous person can lay reasonable claim to their ancestry and which nomadic tribe FIRST occupied a particular piece of land will be by DNA evidence, its AGE AND GENETIC SEQUENCE. That's assuming there are any (ancient) bones to be found??
And anyone who NOW claims ownership would have to relate whole or part of their partial genetic sequence to the tribe that likely first occupied the land. (an impossible task, perhaps?)
It would have taken 1000s of years and 100s of different tribes to have made their way from PNG to Van Dieman's land or across the country.
With rent and compensation the endgame beyond the $39 billion 55 indigenous councils are squandering, just how much more will they then demand if the voice gets up? Wouldn't it be fair to say that present day "FNP" must have had a recent pow wow or corroboree to randomly decide which tribe first "owned" various pieces of land? All things considered, was "ownership" decided by the toss of a coin, a boomerang, or a spear throwing competition?
Absolute nobody : "We need a voice to parliament". Too many soft people bruh.
Mayor heritage is Philippines and polish
So when did the ancient Nungas start to wear those YELLOW Nappies.
I don't beleive these people can be trusted with the future of Australia. The so called " Advisory Body " worries me of at present unknown people with their own agenda's all trying to impress each other. Will this " Advisory Body " do their advising for nothing or will they receive a salary for this advice and costing even more money. My guess is they will want what they get .
'One of the myths is that Aboriginal people have a voice in parliament because of the 11 Indigenous identifying members in Parliament.'
How is that a myth?
Indigenous politicians represent the constituents of a districts. In no way does having an Indigenous representative of those districts mean that we have a Voice regarding Indigenous matters
@@dylanmckinley5266 But that's directly opposite of what we're always told about why "diversity" and "representation" are so important: because anyone of a given identity category will have the particular beliefs, thoughts and ideas held by members of that category, and so it's necessary to have people from all the categories involved in everything because that will mean that the prescribed beliefs, thoughts & ideas shared by all members of that category will be "represented" at whatever TF is going on.
@@dylanmckinley5266 Indigenous are just one of many special interest groups in Australia, I don't see why they should have special constitutional privileges. Especially ones that will quickly degenerate into a useless bureaucracy that will do nothing but make lawyers and politicians even richer than they already are.
I'm trans indigenous, just born in the wrong body so I should get 3 votes
There is an Aboriginal advisory committee attached to the pm office.😅NOW.WOW. 450 000 IMMIGRANTS IN THIS COUNTRY this year. If whities😅 become a minority where will Aborigines stand. Indonesia has an army of 6 million men. Fun times ahead.
They were recognized in the original constitution but they were offended by the wording describing them as part of natural fauna. Homosapiens .We are part of the animal world. The term was coined to include us in zoologists. Aborigines are very cute as kids. 🎉🎉btw. Changed 1967.
Aboriginal people already have a say in parliament and some of those politicians grew up in the camps and know exactly what the real issues are. Those Aboriginal politicians made the most of the vast opportunities already available to their people.
A number of Aboriginal Elders from the bush went to parliament in recent months hoping that their 'voice' would heard. They were snubbed! Even by their own people in politics, bar one. That was an opportunity for the government to show that they were serious about giving the Aboriginal people face to face time. When we see hypocrisy like that time and time again is it any wonder we don't trust the intentions of the Voice or any other policies that are being pushed down our throats. They don't really want to give the Aboriginal people a voice, they want to pick and choose particular people to push an agenda. If they won't even listen to their own why should we trust them.
Mate your already getting double portion fair go.
Noel Pearson way or the highway! Voice to parliament or the executive?
Good job
Dont agree ...the people wanting to be on the voice do not know the concerns of the aboriginal people. They are the elites living in their city dwellings in comfort not true voices from the communities living the real problems in country and outback Australia . These elites just want a cushy elitist job and reconition.
Australia’s international reputation as a racist nation will plummet so low if this doesn’t get up. As he stated, “ we will be the new South Africa”.
The only laws that Indigenous people should be subject to are the laws of their 250 Nations
I identify as first nation & bruce pascoe will back me up!
Uluru statement from the HEART
After being exposed to Education for decades, it was the first time, when following a course to be a Uluru guide, that I was exposed to a direct absorption of a manual directly to the HEART, without going through any analysis backing up such an intention. The problem was mentioned, but no changes, as promised, follow for reasons that come to light today.
Any neutral approach to the notions of guilt, Love, romance and so on could easily figure out discrepancies with Aboriginal Culture, and other Cultures around the World. (Just to mention that a better understanding can have global positive effects). Anyone exposed to bush living is in contact as well with strong attachments to Land and extended families, that do not require and are not about the same narratives: what is called Aboriginal Art is not about interacting Human relationships, since they relate to Totemic established connections. It is NOT a matter for non Aboriginal to judge these aspects in terms of good or bad when traditions are not linked. The very necessary and instructive links are located at the roots of integrated ways in dealing with existentialist aspects of life: this is a necessary exercise that has been ignored or only used at a time when Anthropology was there to demonstrate a Logistics superiority, that has led us to where we are to day, and where we have been over and over again! The HEART has had more to do with present common moments than in Parliament and Politics, and has been present as parallel stand alone improvisations, personal appreciations facing or following taboos.
Could someone do an investigation into the hospital in western Tasmania where the public hospital closes down because of staff issues but the aboriginal health center stays open 24/7!