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I Bought a Grand Seiko
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- Опубликовано: 5 дек 2019
- Hi Everyone and welcome back to the L.W.C channel.
This week I take you out with me to buy my first Grand Seiko. Any Guesses?
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I am not a watch enthusiast. A year ago, while randomly browsing youtube videos, I was introduced to Grand Seiko's Spring Drive technology. I was instantly captivated (I am an engineering sort of guy). I told myself I must have a Spring Drive watch because of it's unique engineering (and also its sublime beauty). A few weeks later, I became the proud owner of a GS SBGA373G - champagne dial, blued second hand, Spring Drive. Today it frequently adorns my wrist, even just going to the supermarket.
How is it now?
@@LiamApilado I still wear it several times a week and lovingly wind it every day. When I have a conversation with friends about watches, I would ask, "Do you know what Spring Drive is?" (the answer is usually no) and then launch into a detailed explanation.
Omg my friend, you just got a watch that is not to impress other people, just to impress yourself, very nice watch, enjoy your new time piece.
Finally jumping of the bandwagon and buying a great peace of horology
so ugly!
@@The_real_Mr_Ghost mechanically it is a masterpiece. But i agree it kind of looks like a $15 watch.
I wish Grand Seiko would employ new designers. Their technology is so great and they deserve a better design thus better sales.
this stupid phrase is so damn overused...
Ugly? I can see that some people haven't see it in person.
An absolutely mind-blowing watch in every single way. Screw the Swiss, if I had the money I'd get the snowflake in an instant.
How much is GS snowflake?
@@CommandoMaster Around 6.000 Euro I believe.
Screw the Swiss?? They invented modern watches!
@@SF-jr1rt Seiko invented quartz movements didn't they?
@@SF-jr1rt Back to google pal, this is false.
*buys $400 watch*
me : i feel like a watch connoisseur
C A what’s not to encourage?
@C A u know it's weird, people always talk about 'watch snobs' but i have never ever seen one...
are there any youtube watch snob channels? wanna check it out
James Washington search ARCHIELUXURY hes a “watch snob”
@@javieroargubi ahh yes i came across him a few days ago. he was talking shit about orient watches. he's trash
@@jw6871 and what about the kind of people who check their phone to know the time since they're incapable of reading an analog clock yet they own an expensive watch as a statement like most of those dumb ass rappers do.
To them a watch is a piece of jewelry so if you ain't wearing a Breitling, Omega, Pathek, Rolex, Vacheron, etc. You're poor.
They prob won't even know half of the mentioned brands.
I never knew such a simple design could be so amazing! The hand glides so smoothly and is one of my favourites.
Grand seiko snow flake great purchase love that sweeping second hand pure magic technology at its best ,agreed the packaging could do with improvement but non the less a great addition to the collection enjoy 🙂
Agree, own two Grans Seiko watches and their boxes definitely leave something to be desired. With that being said though, I appreciate a watch company that saves money on their packaging and invests it in their pieces. In reality, I see my watch boxes once and then they sit in my closet until I need to find the warrantee card for servicing.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you are not wearing the box !
@@SlapShotRegatta22 Quite agree with you... Almost nobody would put his or her watch back to the original case unless to sell it to someone else
A surprising addition, but you can't go wrong with true Japanese quality. Loved the comparisons with cars :)
"True Japanese quality" that is an oxymoron.
@@jeffroutledge9153 yeah sure...i guess you dont own a motorcycle
@@agnwstos1212 a Harley, the best on the planet.
@@jeffroutledge9153 You must live under a bridge if you think Japanese products aren't high quality...
@@rousseau327 Never said they weren't good... just saying that Swiss watches like Rolex and others are better. And no I don't live under a bridge but I'll sell you one if you think Japanese watches are superior to Swiss. : )
Great purchase. I have 14 rolex and now I have my beautiful grand seiko Godzilla spring drive. A beautiful piece of art.
Well you don't know history then! Seiko actually did beat the swiss over and over at the Olympics of watches the "chronometer trials"
The Swiss didn't like it and they stopped the competitions and burried the history for their pride and ego.
Yes Grand Seiko proved to be better than all the Swiss at that time. And is documented. Fact.
Source please
@@yuenhai you can google it. multiple big swiss channels even admited it
ruclips.net/video/ayUT5WfkHrA/видео.html
Val K if you didn't know this already you obviously know little to nothing about watch history... time to study up. The Swiss were rather late to the game of watchmaking and for a long time had no real brands/houses, the real boom happened with German and English watches.
@@yuenhai This is a good read on the subject short and to the point watchesbysjx.com/2018/10/the-rise-and-fall-of-observatory-competitions.html
@@-Loki-- thanks for sharing!!
Please never change the date when the time is between 9 and 3'O Clock as you could snap a gear, always set the time to 6am or 6pm and then set the date, best to set yesterday's date and then you will know buy selecting the time that you are on am or pm and 6 is 100% safe to change the date.
This is true for a lot of movements but not with the Spring Drive. Also with the Breitling B01 you can change the date at any time without damaging the gears because of the design of the clutch and the movement.
They say not to set it between 9pm and 1am. The date might not change properly or it could malfunction
London Watch Collector be like: "Just bought a Grand Seiko beater to spare my Rolex when doing yard work".
Lol 😆
"...when telling the gardener to do yard work" you mean.
@@chrishoesel lmao
I LOVE the sweep of the seconds hand with that beautiful movement.
Excellent decision! I agree with you, this SBGA211 will always be the perfect GS.
I have the baby sarx snowflake. I don't like the titanium, I'd prefer it in Steel.
@@NimsChannel nice choice man! But I still prefer the SBGA211 tho.
@@NimsChannel Same here, I do prefer steel and darker dials, hence I chose a SBGA375 ;)
@@NimsChannel do you even notice the weight when you are wearing it?
The Snowflake is definitely on my radar. I don’t know how or when, but I will own one of these.
After owning several Rolex, Panerai, Omega and Breitling watches, I have to admit that this is a fine machine as well. I love my Seiko SRPD71 and my next purchase will definitely be a Grand Seiko. Great video and congratulations on your new piece!
Congratulations on your purchase. For me Seiko is the greatest watch maker of all time. It will be a long time before I maybe able to afford this but Grand Seiko is the ultimate timepiece that I aspire to.
I can't think of anything more beautiful than the sight of a Grand Seiko on my equally beautiful wrist.
Once again, congratulations on your purchase. Enjoy your watch Sir.
Gorgeous watch. I don’t know that much about Grand Seiko so this was very informative. Thanks!
Congratulations, I started learning about grand seiko early this year when I also attended a local event and since then I became a big fan. I did not pull the trigger on the snow flake yet but I purchase another 2 pieces which are so special: the SBGH269 with beautiful red dial limited edition and the SBGJ235 GMT with amazing blue dial that is sold only in japan boutiques. Very happy with both watches. I am still Rolex fanboy but boy is grand seiko getting so close
That sweep is hypnotic....absolutely beautiful piece.
“A random disappointing cloth” first world problems i suppose....
“A random disappointing cloth” first world problems i suppose....
@@Paka1983 “a random disappointing cloth” first world problems I suppose
Stunning watch grand seiko is very much underrated one of my favorites is the grand seiko blue dial limited edition for their 20th anniversary
That is my first choice, but it's hard to get. So I just got the snowflake.
When can we expect A Lange & Sohne timepiece?
@Hue Man that means there's a lot of value in the preowned market
@Hue Man Curious as I'm thinking of buying one, do you have anything that indicates depreciation rates on ALS please? I would be taking a 20-30 year view on appreciation so any pointers would be very welcome
John Flynn A Lange & Söhne Zeitwerk is a great watch
@akhenatuh People who don't want to flush cash down the drain care. If you can purchase a luxury item that doesn't lose value, that is a big deal. Obviously, if you truly love a watch, you should purchase it if you can afford it, regardless of its resale value. However, that doesn't mean that resale value shouldn't be a consideration in your purchase decision.
@@purplefabian
A.lange is miles ahead gs.
And this video became the reason I am going to pull the trigger on a GS SF. Thanks for another great video, LWC.
There are not only Springdrive driven watches in the Grand Seiko line.
The dials are magical from the snow flake to the brown or to the green ones, they are incredible !
If I have to choose, I will choose a Grand Seiko (Springdrive or not) over a Rolex for sure.
Spring drive is incredible, using the movement of your hand to generate electricity to excite the quartz crystal, the signal which is then sent back to mechanical gears to move the hands.
I always love the Japanese watch, and I think the Grand Seiko is really one of the best watches that can represent the Japanese watch.
Beautiful. Not just the dial, but the whole watch, the combination with the bracelet as well. I wish they do a 38 or 39 mm version of it for people with smaller wrists.
i think this movement is the ultimate automatic movement. the way the needle moves, like hot knife on butter, literally!
Gorgeous watch. I have tons of respect for GS for the technical innovation that creates and absolutely unique and pleasant time reading experience.
Congratulation to your new acquisition! And a beautiful one at that! I adimire your taste! Now, turn your attention to A. Lange & Soehne!
Clive Bixby I don’t think you know what you’re talking about.
Clive Bixby I never said that. The reason why you’re wrong is that you’re committing the fallacy of popularity - that because it is popular it is good, or if not popular, then not good. This is false. The quality of a Lange far surpasses Patek Philippe, especially as it relates to finishing. Besides, A. Lange & Söhne is one of the most welcoming and enthusiastic of brands - some of the nicest people I have had the privilege to meet. Give me a qualitative reason to believe that they’re “shit” and maybe I’ll believe you.
Clive Bixby Damn you are stupid. If Lange is shite, Rolex is no better then Invicta..
@Clive Bixby HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
No but really, you're an idiot.
Clive Bixby Different opinions are fine. Just stimulate a bit of a conversation by providing reasoning. Cheers!
Tryed one on at my local Boutique. The bracelet its so soft unbelievably good and the finish from another star
I have just purchased the same model. Totally agree with your comments the fabric and the guarantee card are very under whelming. The watch is gorgeous. The lightness of the weight is quite remarkable. But that dial is mesmerising. The sweeping hand is great to look at also.
Someone recommended this video to me and I wasn't disappointed thanks.
Congrats on 100k!
I love yr knowledge of every watch you have and it's a treat listening to yr expertise and appreciation and criticism where it's due 👍
I'm Swiss but this is definitely a dream watch, that dial texture is to die for
Adding the stunning GS to your collection just proves that you are indeed a true watch enthusiast.
Beautiful watch. I think if I could only afford one luxury watch, it would either be a Grand Seiko or a Credor.
@@thetruthhurts7500 You’re dumb mate, don’t even think about schooling people again. lol
I’ve acquired two GS’s. Best time pieces I’ve ever owned. Most people who see it on my writst only see it as a regular Seiko. But I dont care.
you care enough to mention it in the comments
@@knotdenver6713 and?
If he cared he would be mad lmao
OK, L.W.C-guy, today I purchased the SBGA413 at Morawitz Uhrmachermeister und Juwelier in Düsseldorf. I recommend to everybody interested in Grand Seiko to see this fantastic time-pieces in real . The pinkish dial is far more subtle, than photos and videos might suggest. Indeed the watch is lightweight, but holding it, I had the impression, that it is very valuable. Will wear it regularly in the office and while travelling. I am employed at a Japanese Company, and I am curios, what my Japanese colleges will say, or if they notice.
There's no frequency to the ticking. This watch doesn't tick. It's a magnetic break regulated by the quartz crystal, which means the hand sweeps analogously. Almost like an infinite number of beats part hour.
Also, this movement will beat any movement designed with a traditional escapement.
Points of order:
The seconds hand sweep is as smooth as it is due to the glide wheel braking mechanism. The hand is not being stopped and released multiple times per second, as per a typical escapement, so there’s no frequency for you to imagine at 8:25 - although you seem to understand this by the time you’re explaining the way Spring Drive operates.
High Intensity Titanium is Seiko’s proprietary version of Grade 5 Titanium Alloy - such that it has an appearance similar to steel, rather than the more usual darker hue associated with the material. The hardness is unchanged, so it’s no more harder to scratch than “generic” Grade 5 Ti6Al4V used by Omega, etc.
Point to note… there are Swiss patents for such a technology back in the very early 70’s, but needless to say, it never went anywhere, and it was Seiko who persisted for 21 years, before finally making it a commercially viable reality.
Piaget released their version a few years back, in the shape of the Emperador Coussin XL 700P - a snip at £65K, iirc, although limited to 118 pieces in total.
My GS came covered in a Seiko branded yellow cleaning cover. I understand that you’re disappointed with the box materials, but I’m not. I’d rather that the watch be of higher detail and quality, than the one time use box.
Personally I think seiko is an excellent brand, I love just the regular seiko as well. They are affordable and high quality.
What a watch. Grand Seiko Spring Drive is definitely a wonderful watch.
Brands like Rolex might be good in resale and fame but if you are looking for the actual horology and a quality craftsmanship, Grand Seiko is the way to go which is miles ahead than all the rivals.
I really respect what seiko have done here......its truly unbelievable...that sweep is crazy smooth....I used to have a seiko boutique by me but they closed...I remember being so happy when I found it....then I go back with my girl...and it was gone
The best watch in your collection and yes they did beat the Swiss with the spring drive .
Congrats on 100k mate!!
And amazing grand seiko!!
My entire collection is Grand Seiko Quartz.. My thinking ?
I love the build and finish of GS. For the Quartz movement is fully serviceable 50 years (astounding )
I’m 70…My plan is to totally enjoy my watches and pass them to my grandson (now 7) when he graduates HS. At that time he will only need to replace battery with plenty of years worry. Free life.
Congratulations! Absolutely beautiful time piece!
Wonderfull watch, hope one day I’ll buy one too . Didn’t you consider hi-beat movement? It has great history in Swiss accuracy contests...
That noise when he winding it
Yes, I have the Snowflake too and the winding has a very satisfying crunch sensation
Great videos! Would like to see you doing an unboxing of some Credor, maybe the Eichi II or something more complex, they have unbelievable gorgeous watches and superb finishing
Congratulations and welcome to the club of Grand Seiko. Enjoy the watch.
100 thousand subs! Been watching your videos since about 35,000. Keep it up, and here's to the next 100 K. Cheers
Congratulations for the 100k subscribers🙏
I bought Presage Sarx055 for my dad birthday last year and man oh man the dials are really gorgeous and the polishing is so good it looks like theres no crystal at all on the watch, and when the dial catch a light you can mirror your self from it. Really worth the money!!
I live in Japan, and walk past the Grand Seiko boutique most days. It is truly stunning to see a collection where there are no 'dud' watches, or even minor design misses. I want every watch in the place! The snowflake is awesome (and gorgeous when seen in person), ditto the new "Autumn" SBGH269 model in the front window of the boutique.
The best watch in your collection! (IMHO)
Objectivly and factualy *NO*
Has Seiko beat the Swiss? Their watches are more accurate, better finished and more affordable. They not only beat them, they scored a Hattrick while doing so.
Depends what you aim at - if you speak horlogery they beat ROLEX for sure (obviously if you consider Rolex is Swiss), if you think "+/- seconds/day" probably too. Now if you look at masterpieces they all came from France and Germany, historically, the Swiss started to reign after these two countries lost shine and business in horlogery - now when you look at the Holy Trinity, this is no longer only horlogery it's art but it's overpriced over-everthing, over-technical, beyond reason and "unafforable" - affordable Swiss manufacturers are key and the most impressive one is probably JLC but there are so many other excellent manufacturers here, like IWC, Glashutte, and less afforable like A. Lange Sohne, FP Journe - interestingly Japan has its own (different) way to measure time before they open to the rest of the world, and this is very interesting to see from where Seiko (in particular) comes and how they became leaders in less that half a century...
This is a beautiful watch. That seconds hand sweep !!!! Superb purchase.
I would buy this purely for the second hand movement, its beautifully smooth, I could watch it for hours.
Strippers at da club love this watch!
Absolutely flawless. Gorgeous, gorgeous watch.
GS Spring Drive is extremely impressive in my opinion. It combines the best of mechanical and quartz to create something truly unique (that second hand omg!!!). I adore my automatic mechanical watches, but i will get a Seiko Spring Drive at some point, that is for sure!
Absolutely love it! Great decision and I hope you're enjoying it.
When I initially saw the notification, I thought you’d got another G-Shock and realised what you’d gone for when I played it. Marc Goldberg got a Diver in the summer and it was ugly and cheap. The watches have been primarily promoted by who you later reveal invited you; who are highly commercial and by their employee for whom the brand must be his pension plan. You redeemed yourself when you highlighted the shoddy packaging and cheap clasp. You gave what must be a good explanation being some type of engineer of what Spring Drive is. I have the impression you initially had about what they are. I get the impression the gimmicky pseudo Samurai sword polishing is just that. You got the invitation as a top watch channel with a large following from what should be a neutral major watch authority but is actually highly commercial. It is good your channel having it for diversity, but from watching the Diver on the other channel and this: I would never get one. I would have put the money towards a Blancpain or Breguet or a Hublot which are a budget Richard Mille, which I like the look of and hope they are well made now; better than they once were.
Finally You bought a decent watch and not that overpriced mass-produced Rolllllli
It's a mechanical watch with the escapement replaced by an electromechanical powered quartz-regulated electromagnetic braking system.
... which therefore makes it not a true fully mechanical watch.
Tried on a Snowflake last week, the dial is unbelievable but the bracelet majorly lets it down. The spring drive is mesmerising
Bought mine a couple years ago and It is Truly Amazing, for the Price it blows Rolex away!
What the heck, I was checking some GS like couple of hours ago because I want one and the next moment I was thinking why this madlad isnt buying one already, someone tell him. And boom this video appears.
*SEIKO* is like *TOYOTA* in watch industries.
_Grand Seiko_ is like _Lexus_ in watch industries.
The flagship is for me the SBGC 001/201. I follow you on those negatives like the clothe and the guaranty card. At this price I expect an overall experience, as well I think the Box is cheap.
Nice choice! The SBGA211 was my first GS followed by a SBGA407 Skyflake. I love these watches.
Believe me I appreciate the Grand Seiko line especially the incredible spring drive movement . But I guess this watch must look a lot better in hand because on video it comes across as a plain looking especially the dial . Just my opinion .
Probably the classiest watch in your collection.
Laughable..
@@terryb8310 ok cool
@@terryb8310 you're laughable
Very wise choice Sir!!!! Congratulations!
that sweep is from heaven. congratulations! i love this watch so much. you need to see it in person to appreciate the craftsmanship of the dial.
Remarkable watch, but no have lumen why? It is essential at night.
vincenzo V owning a Snowflake for a year now, I find lume pretty much unnecessary. If there is any ambient light, the hands and markers really stand out against the dial. It’s not an issue in complete darkness, but forgivable for a dressier style watch.
vincenzo V it’s not a tool watch Nor a dive watch it is a elegant classy watch hence no lume
Saying the Swiss are the only ones who make good watches is like saying, only Ferrari makes good sports cars. Just because they have been in the game longer does not mean they are the best.
Is a beautiful watch! I bough my snowflake from my ad, I asked for a discount and my ad gave me a 20% off. I bough it and was a happy customer.
Very time I look at your sky dweller on your wrist I always feel that I must get one for myself,sky dweller is absolutely stunning and most importantly is the best movement among all rolex lineup.
"Pull the trigger" like it was some sort of compromise. GS for those in the know, are some of of the finest timepieces in the world.
MarcYanOfficial no in English to pull the trigger means to finally decide on something and go for it. Nothing to do with what you said
My dream watch
Wonderful watch, my next purchase , great video as always, well done
IMO, this is the highest value luxury watch on the market today. Thank you for sharing !
sbga for me more classy than Rolex, Rolex for nouveau-rich GS for Gentlemen! I do have 2 GS ! geat decision mate. the dial is mindblowing
About "time" my friend 😉❤️
I bought 2 vintage GS since first watching this video, one quartz one automatic. Not much, but its a great place to start. Quality like this ages very nicely
Gs quartz 🤔
@@prakashkumarp6264 its my only quartz timepiece amongst about a dozen mechanical/automatics..
My handwind longines and the quartz GS get more wrist time. The quartz because its always accurate and the longines because no date to set.. sometimes easy is better
Beautiful GS Snowflake..!!
Thanks for explaining the Spring Drive concept and sharing your new watch ..!!
Beautiful watch. Only other watch that I've seen that has a sweep that smooth is the Bulova Precisonist
icalexander This one’s smoother. It’s a true continuous sweep; the Bulova beats at 16 times per second if I’m not mistaken.
@@tenzinsmith7991 every watch has a beat rate quartz or not.
icalexander No, SpringDrive does NOT have a beat, at all. It is completely continuous. Do your research first. It is NOT a quartz watch in the common sense in that there is no motor. All the quartz oscillator does is measure the rate at which the drive occurs, and applies a magnetic brake to the system to slow it down to the perfect rate. It’s as though you’ve missed the whole point of SpringDrive design.
Please stop making assumptions.
@@1218omaroo I'm well aware spring drive is not quartz but to say it does not have a beat rate is false. Do your research and stop being a fucking keyboard warrior.
Douchebag
@@icalexander You idiot. :) LOL
Be careful: An Omani Student (26) got stabbed by muggers this weekend at Knightsbridge in front of Harrods for his Rolex!
London is going down the drain...
AINT DIVERSITY GREAT
absolutely beautiful. The craftsmanship and the design are stunning.
Grand purchase. Fully agree with you Sir, GS USP is Spring Drive, no point buying an automatic one. A great daily watch for the office.
It’s a great watch and I have got a few seiko’s love the grands the most that said they don’t hold any value once you step outside the store I’ve had Rollie’s that when I got tired of them I sold them and made a good profit it’s an investment I love Japanese watches high quality last a long time
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I would choose grand Seiko over Rolex every time
Why lol? They obviously tried to copy the explorer
@@vitvit13 have you seen some of the Grand Seiko's limited watches way nicer than Rolex
@@sunnyrachelsson3169 I wanted to buy one second hand but no one sells and when someone does it is way too expensive for such a watch, thats why I prefer rolex, not limited like the GS and the second hand mint condition is affordable compare to GS
@@vitvit13 What? Rolex secondhand prices are almost always the same, or higher, than retail. Grand Seiko is almost always lower than retail in the secondhand market.
And copy the Explorer? How the fuck...?
ewt415 relax man, that guy is dumb as hell
I remember a story I was told many, many years ago. A renowned Swiss watch maker rather annoyed by the impertinence of Seiko. Sent them the smallest brass screw ever made, that was barely visible to the naked eye, with a note saying: you can try and copy our watches, but you will never replicate the intricate engineering we have achieved. A couple of days later a letter arrived back from Seiko. Enclosed was the screw, it had been drilled and tapped through the middle.
Obtained a GS Spring Drive Chronograph just over a year ago. Great watch.
Finally bought a real quality timepiece.
To a commoner the word Seiko will mean cheapness to 95% of the population.
@Lewis Who polished you?
Yes! Been waiting for this video for months! Congratulations on the amazing watch, hope you have a great time with it.
I have always worn Seiko. I recently discovered Grand Seiko and plan on buying a spring drive version. Thanks for the review.