Someone once mentioned that the linearity and lack of interaction in the game made sense with the story since they were constantly on the run. They couldn't risk being caught or noticed. And i would like all 3. I want to play ff13-2 and i never got to finish LR. It sucks that PS4 isn't backwards compatible
Even so, once your off Cocoon and On Pulse, you should have more Freedom to do and Explore in a way similar to that of FF10, 12, and even FF15! Also, It did Not Make any Damn sense for the Ark Section to be So Goddamn Forced after the Bart Fight! Let’s also Add some more Lore to Taejin’s Tower, cause Non of that section Made any Goddamn Sense!
I agree about the story calling for how linear FF13 was, the issue I (and many) had however was how LONG that linearity lasted, like 75% was hallways and lack of changing party leaders. :I I think if the cast fell off Cocoon say after they got branded L'cie and there were towns on Pulse to explore with the mission of returning to Cocoon, that would have been a much better game and more in line with Final Fantasy imho.
Linearity has been done much better in games before XIII. Hell, FFX was linear as well, but you could still explore areas, play minigames, and use an airship.
I play on my series X and yeah I’m loving my time with it the story is compelling and the faster loading times which where a bit on the long side on my X360 make it all the better for it... I love the linearity actually after games like Valhalla and all the other open world games I quit playing because of how dragged out they where This was a good game at launch imo and it’s even better with the age where in atm
Same. I don't see why people hated this game so much. I mean yeah there is a couple of things that get annoying like he said in the end of the video but I honestly think it's a good addition to the series. And they need to bring it back. I feel like they won't tho because they don't think they'll make enough money off of remastering it and putting them out there.
@@losttheory2761 it's mostly the sequels that are at fault for that. Yes they did improve the gameplay drastically, but the story tanked lower and lower each time. That and most FF fans my self included don't like sequels to begin with
This game was far over hated. I loved all three installments when I played them many many years ago. I’ve played all ff main games now for the exception of the two MMOs (and recently just started ff12 for the first time…loving that one too). And compared to eachother, there are better and worse aspects to each. But there isn’t a bad game in the bunch. Infact I would go as far as saying, that the 13 trilogy may be one of my favorites. I also think the ff15 hate is pretty dumb too. Nothing is perfect, but it was a unique and quality piece of work.
I love XII due to the characters (you may see similar relationships between Vaan & Basch as with Hope & Snow) the story and the open world. Although XIII has not much of them, the Paradigm system was definitely a first. (I don't hate the Gambit system, that was great and I like how it stayed)
While I will admit ff 15 left me In tears. I’d much rather would’ve gotten Versus XIII but Nomura seems to be dead set on bringing it back so I’m hyped
No they weren’t. The first game [FFXIII] was horrible. The second [FFXIII-2] was good. The third [Lightning Returns] had a bad localization but great gameplay. Remake the first one and remaster the others… but please fix Buhuni into his jpn counter part. The western localization version is so bad it hurts.
A remaster would be awesome. There are four new things I think should be included into a FFXIII remaster: 1. Integrate the FFXIII novella and audio drama, which included how Lightning met Snow, how Serah became a l'Cie and Lightning hearing the words of her dying mother, all fully voiced by the original cast. It's what happened with the X/X-2 Remaster. 2. The datalogs should be made into collectables found in the levels and all the text is fully voiced too. 3. Hope's Eidolon boss battle happens in Chapter 7 (when Hope confronts Snow about his mother's death) instead of Chapter 11. 4. More post-game content like a secret Caius boss fight.
Great ideas I hope the devs will not ignore when the time comes to remaster this amazing game. Specially the datalog, the trilogy has an impressive world building effort in it that most people didn't get to know because it's hidden as a silent read. They could even add a couple cutscenes for the datalog entries, with almost all characters having been 3D modeled for the sequels. I would also ask for a Jihl miniboss fight in the airship instead of throwing away that character's buildup like the original did.
2 is how actually how the analects work, they're also the only datalog entries worth reading. 3 will never happen unless they remake the game which won't happen for a long time, if ever
That would work better for a remake than a remaster. But I agree. Also they could add more about Noel's past and IDK maybe more about Noel Snow and Hope from after XIII-2 to before Lightning returns.
Now that I'm reading this... It is kinda odd that Hope's Eidolon fight happens after the gang arrives to Pulse and not during his confrontation with Snow.
I have been waiting for YEARS for it's Remaster or even a Re-release at this point now. I can't respect how SE is treating one of their own creations, smh. It's my Favorite FF game of them all
@Nobody it’s also my favorite. Personally, I didn’t read the data log until I was basically done with the story. They definitely should’ve done a better job from the beginning instead of throwing so many terms at you before explaining them, but less than halfway through the game they’ve already explained most of them, by which time I was already living the story. I personally thought the cats of characters, especially lightning but not so much hope, we’re amazing. The ATB system was also super fun, and having the characters move through the battlefield while you waited made it eel so much more alive than every other FF before where the characters just stand still while you wait to attack again (my gripe with most turn based combat games). Plus the ending gets me eveytime I watch it. Probably my favorite ending of any FF that I’ve played
@@chicodepuertorico1450 Noone is talking about a remake, it's about a remaster which is very little effort for a game studio, nonexistent really if they let another studio do it.
My heart skipped a beat when I saw the title of this video. Dog, if they re-released the 13 series I would loose my mind. I guess I'll have to keep dreaming for now.
I was at a young age when 13 first came out (I was 13 going on 14) and I remember how everyone hated it. I wasn’t exactly sure how I felt about it. I didn’t hate it but I didn’t love it? Maybe I was scared to admit that it wasn’t that bad and people would’ve dunk me lol. One thing for sure is that I kept coming back on this game, including its sequels. As the years passed by, I replayed the trilogy with an open mind and reading its datalog and I finally admitted that this game is actually fantastic flaws and all. This game deserves a second chance for everyone and just see the game as a sole title and don’t depend so much on hoping it be better than other FF titles. That’s not what the series is about. I love FF13 trilogy and I would love to see a remastered edition. Square is very communicative towards us fans so with enough vocals, hopefully this can be reached out to them (if it hasn’t already).
this was my first FF game. most people hating on it were fans of other FF games. I loved it. The linearity kept me moving along through the story. I appreciated that, unlike FFXV where i spent a few weeks just playing around in the sandbox. RPGs should always be about the story and the characters first.
I’d argue that 13 deserves a remaster with few adjustments while lighting returns gets a full on remake. I swear if they had done lighting returns right it would have been a blast. Also 13-2 is already the 2nd best ff game on Pc, beaten by 14.
Is that before or after modding it? I just got Xiii-2 and read the reviews saying you need to mod it to fix frame issues and crashes did you deal with this?
Wasn’t expecting this kind of video, all over the internet there are vids about how bad is ff XIII but seeing this is actually good! I loved the trilogy of XIII
I have been playing the trilogy for years and I loved it. I understand completely why some people hated it, due to linear areas or dying when your character died. I think if there was a remaster they should change areas like the Hanging Edge and make various paths. They should also switch to characters once the main party member dies. They should remaster the trilogy since overall there were some stuff in the game that never got added and there are slight problems with each game.
@@NoctLightCloud Late reply, but wasn't that already in the original game tho. I remember that your active party members always followed you in the overworld.
@Null Dork V is the most underrated in the series, IMO, simply because no one ever even talks about it. I played it a few years back thinking it'd be kinda 'meh' but it was phenomenal. Really got me good. Story and gameplay were both great. Loved the characters. I find IV's cast and story boring and overrated so I was pleasantly surprised by V.
My favorite FF game as well. The first time I played it, I didn’t understand it.. like at all lol. Then about a year or so later I tried it again.. and absolutely fell in love with the game. I agree with someone else’s comment; I think a lot of it was the battle system. Players either not understanding how to use the paradigm system properly, intimidated them, or just flat out got wrecked in battles. Cause my second play through.. I was completely floored.. and yearning for more. I was so sad when I finished the game, and even thought on the story years later. The story is magnificent, maybe my favorite story of all time in a game.. aside from the Mass Effect series of course lol. But yea, I really think maybe this game and the paradigm system was just a ahead of it’s time.. but players for some reason just couldn’t adjust to it.
You have to listen to prelude... And ruminate on the threads. It's so epic... I get hit so hard in the feels when I think about how amazing this game wanted to be...
the battle system is awesome. it's like a puzzle that you have to figure out. If you play the game manually it is incredibly challenging and satisfying. I never used auto battle
I started playing this game a while ago for the second time and I'm still loving it! Now being older I'm able to understand the plot better - it was a lot to take in as a 13-year-old when I didn't understand English that well. I like the fact the game is more narrowed instead of an open world. I don't have much time to do all the side quests etc. I did miss visiting some beautiful areas in previous chapters though. But mostly, I just want to enjoy the gameplay and the story. The graphics, mechanics and the soundtrack are all amazing in this game (However I do hate the fact that your party leader dying ends up to a game over). Great video (subbed)! I agree with everything you said! I hope we get a remaster one day and Lightning and the group get more love as they deserve. :)
Absolutely. I've always loved ff13. It was everything I expected it to be when it came out. Not my favorite in the franchise by far, but definitely not a bad game. Ff13 has a lot of issues like what you pointed out. I would love to see them addressed. But a lot of people hated the game just for its linearity and restriction of freedom. Open world doesn't make a good game. I appreciated the linear approach because it allowed the game to tell a better story. And I still hold that ff13's story is just as phenomenal as any other ff title.
What I think need to be change Combat System 1) I wish we can change each character just like FF10 but the problem is with Paradigm Customization that need Roles to be set first. That is a big problem 2) Change the character that we can control while in battle just like FF13-2 3) Customization for Paradigm Shift animation into 2, Skip Animation or Animated 4) Improve and buff Technique skill and add new technique Summon System 1) Buff Eidolon, like A LOT 2) Make it easier to summon, separate it from Technique 3) Add new summon that can be assigned to all character just like FF12, just apply it on Crystarium Crystarium 1) Create new branches for us to select some Spell, Technique or Skill, because I hate saboteur -ga spell, or give option to skip skill/spell/technique nodesa 2) Create new fragment/item call as Spell Fragment or Status fragment that can be add in Crystarium of character that we chose to learn the spell or increase status of. Story/Gameplay 1) Instead of all of the story, lore and information got throw into datalog, create NPC's along the journey to explain every important details need to be know in Cocoon, While in Gran Pulse we can have Cieth Mission Stone to do the job. Some people confuse what is this and that , that they gave up to understand what the story about. 2) About the linearity, I can't think of anything since the story is about some group that have time limit to finish their focus being chased by whole Cocoon since they are enemy of Cocoon. The reason why Gran Pulse is the only place where the linearity gone 3) Create a lot of interactive Puzzles to access some area/zone, instead of fight, fight, again and fight through all game. Example, to decode security machines lock puzzles, access to the next room instead of pressing 1 X 4) Make all places accessible after the game end, like Nautilus, so we can enjoy some mini game or new mission just like Serendipity in FF13-2 or to revisit miss-able treasures or some new content. Create teleport crystal like FF10/FF12. Make new side mission in Cocoon with NPC 5) Add Secret treasure/ultimate weapon/items/mission instead of obvious floating Treasure Sphere 6) Can save anytime, anywhere like FF13-2 7) MORE GIL DROP!!!! 8) Add Hard, Insane, God mode
the entire trilogy. I have always loved 13, it made me fall more in love. I always go into a game clean minded. No thoughts, no expectations - just a free mind ready to play the game to the fullest. To feel all the emotions, to grind and so much more. It's really nice to see people who enjoy 13, I defo think 'fans' can just end up ruining games themselves from always having to high expectations and just trash talking. Hopefully though, we get a remaster of 13. Would love to play it on the new gen! (I also enjoyed 15, some things I was eh on of course but I was very open minded and took the journey on.)
I just feel like there''s so much potential for this game to be great. An actual remake would easily propel it to the top tier of FF games. Here's are something that it could improved 1. Better battle user interface: manual command is such a hassle because I have to surf through layers of menu just to access the character abitlities. Did you know you can change characters in XIII-2, but it worthless because it's tucked behind layers of menu, making it too slow. They should put the abilties selection menu as the default menu when you enter combat, and being able to switch characters simply using the D-pad. Also, out of combat, you should be able to arrange your abitlies list so that you can put your most important ones on the top. Also, how about being to acess higher level abilties by simple holding down the basic level abilities, for example, hold down the Fire button will extended it into Fira and eventually Firaga. That way, the need to for auto-battle is eliminated, which is a source of complaint most people have with this game. 2. Far more important than just being to switch characters on the fly imo, is being able to assisgn "Paradigm Leader", as in auto-matically switch a a specific character after chaging into a paradigm. For example, in Com-Rav-Rav, I want to control Lightning since she is the main chain builder. But in Med-Sen-Med I want to control Hope is he is the main healer, and in Com-Com-Rav, I want to control Fang since is the main damage dealer. 3. This might be controversial but I devise a way to move Chapter 11 (the open world chapter) right to the begining of the game. It goes like this. After the cutscene where Anima turned the characters into L-cie, we just cut to black and start the game in Pulse, with only Lightning and Hope is playable. They talked about how to they crash landed, and their supplies wer scattered all over the place, and how they needed to collect them back. As you go to the one of locations to collect supplies, you get a playable flashback of previous chapters. After the playing the chapter, all your gears and items you collected during the flashback will be added to the current time in Pulse. Addtionally, you can unlock playable characters in Pulse by playing the memory flashback. That way, you can weave in open world sections with linear ones to keep the gameplay loop less boring. 4. Would be nice if you can get some actual shops instead of the online one where you can buy things at a discounted price, or different shops can offer discount of different items. Would be also nice to have a central town in Pulse where we can hangout and buys stuffs. Yeah, I know, there isn't supposed be any more human left in Pulse, BUT, how able bunch of creatures just decided to gather round a build a civilazation in place of human, kinda how the robot village in Nier Automata works. That would be pretty cute. 5. I think a bit of lore dump about the nature of Pulse, Cocoon, and their Fal'cies at the begining of the game would make the story, especially during the early chapters, less confusing.
I kinda like the fact on it locking who you play as in the story. It let's you get a feel of the characters you play as instead of just putting you on one, so by the end of the game, you know who your gonna play as and how to use them.
They are all available on GamePass now with upgraded visuals. The second one is my favourite. It fixes all the issues with the first game and its just a lot funner.
Been playing through the series lately, finally getting around to Lightning Returns. If there were to be a remaster, it definitely should be the whole Trilogy. No reason to be like Bethesda, re-releasing Skyrim by itself for full price over and over. Also, who says FFXV was the worst? FFXV was great! The worst ones are FFTA, and VIII.
I would like all 3. They're so special to me for different reasons. I'm leaning more towards XIII-2 maybe because of the soundtrack and slightly improved/faster combat system. I would even be happy with just a re-release.
I would like to see the trilogy remade. I liked the battle system changes they did in the sequel and how switching the paradigms was faster so they could add that for the first one.
@Nobody I think this game is similar to FF8. It wasn't until much later that people appreciated it. I personally like 13-2 and Lightning Returns more, but I perfectly understand people that don't like the game.
There are some mods for the PC version. Upscaled 1080p FMVs (they are beautiful, especially Snows and Serahs scene), improved textures, designable weapons and you can even switch some character models.
I actually loved this series (XIII, XIII-2 & LR) I would definitely recomend it. It's unique in its on way. If you want an adventure and a big world to explore you'll not get that but you're gonna get one but if you will get one hell of a story. I'd love to play not a remaster but a remake, making Cocoon a bigger and larger area so that it is not so tedious like they did in FF VII Remake.
Ff13 pretty much played itself. The writing was an aweful mess. The characters were unlikable. It was one really long narrow corridor. The game was notorious for good reason. It did have good music and visuals.
@@Eskimo_iio Your being a little deceptive, and I should clarify. Much like FF13, you can auto play with most Final Fantasy games, and auto play some bosses if you grind.
I actually LOVE XIII! I spent like, 40 hours in it and only made it to Chapter 11 before I got really bad burn out due to not only having COVID at the time, but also binging FF I-IV Pixel Remasters as well as the Remakes of III and IV! The time I spent with it though was amazing and I'm definitely gonna play through it all the way when I reach it during my FF I-XV playthroughs on my new Steam account!
Bro I was just talking about this yesterday.. so weird I found this video thank you for being a huge fan of my child hood game and the game that got me into the series
Entire trilogy, but the main thing I would really like them to fix is the real world time limit for the maps in Lightning Returns. That was what killed the trilogy for me, because I love to explore maps & collect things, but I had such bad anxiety trying to rush through areas I didn’t get to appreciate it at all. I loved XIII-2 more than any of them, but XIII had scenes that are still some of my favorites in FF as a whole. While I’m a much bigger fan of X, IV, & now of XIV, XIII deserves another shot to shine.
FFXIII was my first game in the FF series. I remember the common theme was that long time FF players absolutely hated it and new comers, like myself, enjoyed it very much. Looking back I did find it annoying how the “real game” started at the end of the game.
Final fantasy 13 was the first FF game that I played and I absolutely fell in love with the game and the universe of FF but it really sucks that it doesn’t get the love and recognition from Square Enix. They really should bring it to the PS4 store to allow new comers and fans to FF13 to experience it agian/for the first time, it’s a really good game and is mainly story based. Yea it has its cons but it’s so good! If they did remaster it they could add some more side content and flesh out the story a bit more to make it a bit better! This game needs more love and attention, Square need to realise this game has a massive fan base.
13-2 was really short, but the best out of the trilogy. I heard that the developers got influence from assassins creed for lightning returns and I could definitely see it with the NPC’s and quests all throughout that 3rd game
I just need the Trilogy ported/remastered for PS4/5 and I’m good for life. I don’t think the graphics even need to be touched up much except for maybe Lightning Returns. Just give the games some quality of life enhancements and ship it off. Edit: another addition I would like is a theater mode for all 3 games. The cutscenes are gorgeous and a built in way to view them at any time would be great.
Dug out my Final Fantasy 13, 13 Part 2 and picked up Lightning Returns on Xbox 360. I planned to go through them on my Xbox One X one day since they are all now One X enhanced.
Get an XSX as it's basically remastered on it BUT don't use/dl any DLC as that seems to destabilize the game more and it has major slowdown at times. Plays fine if not in 4K but you lose the better visual clarity and sharpness.
If they do a remaster they might as well do all three, however, the first XIII's biggest problem is that the writing team failed at the basics when it came to telling this game's story. They stuck a lot in the datalog, they used terms without providing real context to them, and the biggest sin was when you got to Pulse they didn't use all the side quests, or even a significant percentage of them, to fill in the lore of the fabula nova crystallis epic they were trying to build or the history of what seemed to be a vacant planet. If they had done a better job of incorporating the nuances into the active story, allowing the players to experience it with the characters, I believe this game would have suffered far less of a backlash.
The trilogy is good overall but remastering just the first game would be absolutely fine for me. I'm sure it being a trilogy in the first place is part of the reason we haven't seen a remaster or even a port. But it's a bit of a bummer that far as I know there isn't anything saying it'll happen anytime soon at least. (Edit: am i missing something or is my phone being weird cause i coulda sworn you had more than 2 subs)
This is a backup channel, the main one is changing content completely (If you look at it it has only 1 video now) . This is just for people that wanted to watch the old videos
When I first bought this game a little after launch, I was completely unaware of the disdain and hatred it was receiving at the time. When I found out about all that I felt like my enjoyment of FFXIII, and subsequently its sequels, was something I should have been ashamed of. It warms my heart to see so much positivity towards FFXIII in recent years. I'd buy a remaster in a heartbeat.
@@ironrex6979 True, as much as I enjoyed the game, it's in dire need of polish. I really like the world and concepts of XIII all across the trilogy and I feel like a remake would be a nice way to address criticisms and give Fabula Nova Crystalis a second chance to shine. Also need more of Sazh, just in general, I'll defend these games to my grave but they did him dirty.
@@thedaniel13000 I firmly believe that Lightning Returns did the whole cast dirty 😂. FFXIII-2 was a good idea and solid game although felt more like a spin off. That said I agree with you. The original ffxiii had a great story about faith and free will, great lore, creative Re invention of the crystal/warriors of light mythos, gorgeous art direction, phenomenal graphics, and the characters weren’t bad just badly executed. The only problem was the linearity and lack of actual gameplay. If a remake addresses those two points game would be 10/10. The other two can be remastered however I would prefer Lightning’s Returns to be Re translated to be more faithful to the Japanese version.
@@ironrex6979 As much as I love LR I'll concede that's definitely true holy shit. I've certainly numbed myself to its flaws over the years, like the first two games it has a cool world and lore (like the concept of exploring a rapidly shrinking and dying world with immortal people and dead remnants of eras long past is really novel to me for example) I feel like that game was probably executed the worst of the three in terms of main cast and their arcs. I just don't think it took the time to delve deep into the characters or work hard enough to make their arcs satisfying enough. We all know how they did Sazh dirty, they pushed Snow in the right direction but it didn't even really touch the hatred he felt in the opening CG cutscene, I thought a more antagonistic Snow than what we got would have been sick. I think Noel was pushed in a pretty good direction too and has some really cool lines but I feel like he would have done more to stop the Children of Etro if he didn't like them. Vanille wasn't horrible but I think the position they placed her in meant that she was kind of out of the way and didn't get enough time to do much, I like that you can take time to visit her whenever you feel like when you do enough quests in Luxerion. Fang was handled decently imo and it was nice to have her as a temp party member. Lightning and Hope get the most time in the spotlight but I feel like their roles as God's servants necessitate that their characters feel a little off. Even though Bhunivelze is cruel and it makes sense that Lightning and Hope would be stripped of the things that makes them human, I can see why that doesn't click with other people. Overall while good ideas and concepts were introduced, it still felt a little lacking in retrospect.
XIII was my first FF game I've ever played. (Besides Dissidia). What got me interested was the game was notorious for being a terrible game, but had 2 sequels. So I wanted to check it out. But currently on XIII-2 and slowly progressing. For XIII, I really enjoyed the gameplay once I reached chapter 9. For the most part my gripes were that the game felt like it was playing itself for the majority of the chapters, for the sake of telling a story. But the dialog and cutscenes did not deliver that story well enough. The gameplay was fun once I sat down and gave a real attempt to understand the mechanics, (I did a lot of reading in the datalogs to get the full spectrum. Even then had to look some stuff up). Movement felt clunky and frustrated me at times. And the characters felt so unnatural except Sazh. But Most all of those things were fixed in XIII-2 so far, (at least in my opinion). Other than that, the story was really amazing! Music was awesome! And the character design was really done well! I would love a remaster or a remake! HD Fang sounds like a great idea!
Personally I would kill for ffXIII trilogy remaster. As of right now in 2022 I'm only 19 and I've always loved final fantasy just like my father did, being a younger fan of the series XIII was only fourth Final Fantasy game I ever played and the second one I ever beat. I noticed a lot of people hating on how linear the game is and while I understand the critique like @solomon said in the comments they were on the run so it does make sense. Aside from how linear the game was I still fell in love with the characters as they were fleshed out more in ffXIII-2 & LR. A remaster is exactly what this games needs like you said with a few adjustments to the combat and a few other areas of the game and a graphic boost I feel like ff13 has the capability of being placed up there in the same tier as FFVII & my favourite FFX
If you had a problem with ff13's combat system, you could play 13-2 it allowed you to switch leaders in the case your default leader dies or even for strategic purposes. ( 13 allowed you to keep using your limit break as long as you had the wind up to it, 13-2 you could only do it once per battle but because you could switch leaders you could use a max of 2 per fight )
If they want to remaster this game they need to have the option that they had in VII Remake for the combat system, where the player was able to choose if they wanted a combat system that gave the player more freedom like the one in XV or if they wanted a more turn based system like this one
Wait wait wait... If you play the PC or Xbox next gen you are playing it remastered. I legit just did a playthru 120 hours and it's amazing but you also want to play it and the other 2 13 series
One big quality of life change i would love is when you paradigm shift the first time each battle, if it didnt go to each person. I know for the first few chapters its helpful, but once you get a feel for the game you know what youre switching too and it delays fights enough to be annoying for me personally. It doesnt do it after the first time, and only does it the first time you're not airborne, and personally i would like to see that away entirely (or at least have the settings option to toggle it off). I would love to see a remaster of this game in general. The change on a console view from ps3/xbox360 to ps5/xbox series x/s would be breathtaking imo, however i dont imagine a huge change for pc considering monitor sizes not changing too much. Tv size for console has increased greatly between 2009 and now (2021) and thats one of the biggest flaws ive felt playing it again this year
1) confusing annoying names and words for things. Remember "Edgar?" Now we have "Fate le' Cie' and "Sazh" 2) creepy underage sex stuff 3) unapologetically annoying characters 4) insanely overcomplicated story.
Yup. It's hard to invest in dumb stories and dumber characters. The more personal story of 13-2 was much better for that reason, even though the time travel stuff was wacky af.
I think that a remaster like Crisis core reunion would fit the 13 trilogy it would work pretty great...just without replacing the voice actors cause... oh god poor Zack.
I'd like them to remake the whole trilogy as a single game with XIII chapters. The story is very interesting. They need to make a remake. If they just did a remaster you'd have tons of ppl still bithching about the linear feel of the game again. Even if "it makes sense from a plot pov to be linear at the beggining", they could at least add more freedom of exploration. Also they could fix the english dub so ppl don't hate certain characters annoying from the get go.
I typed up this long ass essay as a comment then deleted it out of frustration lmfaoo TLDR of it was : Absolutely love the Trilogy, adored every second, but I understand why people wouldn't find the entry title to be good. So I recommend: -Rework XIII's long ass hallways -Let the shops be less depressing -XIII-2s Merciful combat flexibility and Lightning Returns Self Input Combat system, where there's technically paradigms still. So no 3 classes like LR, but let each XIII class, feel responsive and high energy with entering in commands to fight rather than loading an ATB. (Imagine FF7R where each party member is controllable- and have movement and attacks/spells, but let their moveset be Paradigm specific. And ofc they can have the shitty tip toe movement of LR) - 60 fps XIII-2 and Lighting Returns... Pls.
I want them to fix the battle system issues that you have mentioned, add the ability to switch characters mid-battle or at least who you control mid-battle, and if the leader dies it shouldn't be a gameover. The leader's death causing a gameover discourages players to play as the characters with the lower HPs like Hope or Vanille. Of course I want the trilogy remastered together, even though I won't play XIII-2 again.
FF13 was a game of my childhood and I've always loved its storyline and beautiful graphics, as well as the relationships and dynamics between all of the characters. I played the whole trilogy and absolutely loved all of it, and I quite honestly didn't even know how much hate the game had until very recently, since I've always thought of the game as beautiful with amazing gameplay. If a remaster came out for the trilogy I would absolutely play it, I've grown such a connection to the game, characters and world and would love to see it in even better graphics to enjoy the experience again.
I would not think twice to buy FFXIII remaster, it is one of the most special games for me, despite its flaws. Things I would improve are, first and foremost, the story and the way it is presented (so that it is easy to understand), characters and their personality, and the only visual upgrade I would really like to see is the open area in chapter 11.
It’s funny when this came first came out me my cousin and my uncle all picked it up and played it and we loved it the graphics and music were amazing and the story and gameplay was fun. When I went to school everyone was shitting on this game they hated it. Me and my cousin felt like the only one who ever liked it. Great video man
Yeah, I honestly had a lot of fun playing this game back when I was a teenager. I didn't get the story but I loved Lightning as a character. Although personally, I think a remake would be better. From what I've seen in video reviews, the context in the story comes in notes you don't have to read. I also saw in another review that one of the staff members had said they had enough cut content to make another game. Seems like a great opportunity to bring those scrapped ideas back to life and try again.
The whole thirteen trilogy tells one while story as far as characters and world goes and each has even more fantastic battle system and world. Love this trilogy
Late to this. I think 13 if it took place completely in Gran Pulse could’ve been a massive success. 15 Was praised for its open world while 13 went completely unappreciated for saving its incredible open world segment for the final act
FFXIII and its sequels absolutely deserve a remaster. Not only does it have one of the most beautiful worlds in an FF game, it has one of the best OSTs, so this game stuck out to me even before I fell in love with it. The first game's story is also pretty intriguing once you finally understand it, and I feel like the characters grow on you. I've been wishing for years to experience this game anew, so if Square Enix decides to release a PS4/PS5 remaster, I'll buy it in a heartbeat ❤️
I'm currently re-playing the game on ps3 and I love it but my only problem is that you don't earn gil after each fight so buying the weapons or accessories you want is more difficult especially when you have to sell the components that you need to upgrade your gear .
I would love to have the whole trilogy with 13 especially getting the ability to control different characters early, and a rework on the leveling system like they did with both 10 hd and 12 Zodiac. I feel like this is certainly in the realm of possibilities and would do wonders for the feel of the game. Flexibility and creativity are so important in final fantasy games (and RPG's in general)
Honestly I think the game could be a lot better if they made balance changes 1. Make any character able to be the party leader early on 2.Make the option to cut the paradigm shift shorter like 13-2 3. Stop capping the levels just let people do what they want 4. Later on in the game don't punish the player if wanting to level up different roles 5. Make new balances to the character's making vanile have more HP than lighting is so odd tbh 6. Allow characters to change party mbers during battle 7. Make a option to play every character during battle These would make so many things better can't say it would help the story but as a game it would be a much better experience
I enjoyed the game when it came out and i get weird looks whenever I admit it. Bit i had the same issues with the linear progression, game over when the party leader dies when i LITERALLY have 2 other working party members, and all the other stuff you mentioned. I also had so much trouble grinding for gil, did anybody else have this problem. I definitely want a remake if they can fix these things. The story is one my favorites so far
My experience by the runs I had: 1st: Unfinished, got stucked on the first eidolon. 2nd: Unfinished, got even more frustrated, progressed a bit 3rd: BARTHANTHELUS I HATE YOU!! 4rd: So this is the way to beat the game, kill every thing on the scenery, I WON! 5rd: Steam version looks AWESOME!
My experiences 1st: On PS3, 5 yr old me knew nothing 2nd: Wow I really sucked at this game (then got stuck at the end of Chapter 5) 3rd: GOD FUCKING DAMN IT BARTHANDELEUS (specifically Chapter 9) 4th (and now): yay grinding
So heres my wishlist for a Final Fantasy XIII remaster 1) Chapter Selection: Sometimes I want to go back to a certain chapter and admire the beauty of the environment, Palumpolom is one location where it is so beautiful 2) Able to Control the other party members: I really hate the 'one goes down and the rest fall' mechanic, if my party leader falls let me play as the other 5 and if all 5 go down than it's a game over just look at Pokemon for example. 3) Add a New+: FF15, Lightning Returns; and Kingdom Hearts all have a New Plus bwere you can replay the game with your character maxed out; while it will be OP I like to replay it to make certain boss battles easier and to grab items I might have missed 4) Easy way to make Gil: This game is the hardest to get money, sometimes I have to resort to selling items that way I can buy some remedy or weapon 5) remaster XIII-2 and Lightning Returns with all dlcs included: apart from XIII, its sequels are also the few FF games to have never gotten a remaster, LR is probably my favorite in the Trilogy due to its beautiful game environments, I find it funny how LR was never released on the PS4 and XBOX One considering back in 2014 those where the newest consoles
some of your suggested improvements with changing party members are actually in ffxiii-2! there were also other tweaks as well, like shortening that damn paradigm shift animation, which I'd love to see in ffxiii. I'm definitely on board to play a remaster trilogy myself on ps4/ps5
I think ff 13-2 needs a remastered version. Ff 13 has a nice difficulty lvl compared to ff 13-2. But like you mentioned, it would be great if you could change you main character during battle like in 13-2. I would also be very cool if square would sell all ff 13 together. I don't think many people would buy 13-2 but if all games come in one package, people will most likely play 13-2
Ff13 trilogy remake with a "tbc" mode (ffx style combat option) an open crystarium from the beginning of the game, and the ability to jump between save points you've already been to to open things up more. They could also add more side content. Bring back triple triad, open up that amusement park area to get us a motorcycle race mini game, vr battles (like in 7 remake) and a blitz ball tournament like in ten. Oh and of course ,catching raising and riding chocobo is must. If square does this then the ff13 remake won't fell nearly as linear. Edit: and oh God oh God is they let us actually play through the flying cutscenes in something that resembles the near atomata flying missions that would be fucking insane
If they remaster it, they need to apply the improvements they did for FFXIII-2 where possible. XIII-2 improved things in a way that made people who disliked the first at least say that Square "listened". There are battle updates in XIII-2 that make a world of difference and shouldn't be hard to apply to XIII at all. Also, make the crystarium more open from the start. If this affects difficulty, just adjust to make the game harder or easier. Additionally, where possible, they could add some of the missions that you get on Pulse onto Cocoon, giving you at least something else to do and improve pacing. Finally, for those missing the allure of "minigames", they could perhaps repurpose one of the XIII-2 minigames into Cocoon for simple rewards. Or maybe rehash the one Hope minigame for rewards. Basically, I want them to improve the game within the confines of the code they have for both XIII and XIII-2. They shouldn't have to design any new models, music, or mechanics. The groundwork is there, just repurpose and modify things where possible and it's basically a different experience, save for the story. As for remastering the other 2 games, I don't think they need much more than graphical updates. XIII was the best-looking of the XIII trilogy. As the trilogy went on, they shifted their focus from visual polish to gameplay expansion, and it shows.
I’ve played13, 13-2, and Lightning Returns to the point where I should stop - I’ve done everything and then some. My real issue with 13 is the story and how it unfolds. It’s extremely hard to follow and becomes more so as the series continues. I stuck with it but only really started having fun when I had the whole party together. The author of the video does a good job at pointing out what most people, including myself, find that’s holding the game back. To have people interested in any version of this game it would need a complete overhaul. I can completely understand what people dislike and most of the criticisms are on point. Superbutterbun does a great video on FF13. It pretty much reflects my opinion on the series.
It's just a case of perspective, FF13 and 15 are great games IF you are new to the series! The old-school fans were never really going to like it, Final Fantasy has a very stubborn fanbase and I feel they would play nothing but FF6-FF10 for the rest of their lives if they had a choice. At least FF13 took some risks and tried something new. Some experiments are bound to fail.
FF13 is the only midnight release for a video game I ever attended. I love its world and characters. It's very bright and colorful (sorry, colourful). It's reminiscent of the, "you're on vacation" (sorry, "holiday") feel I got from FFX. Its a gorgeous world that deserves a remaster. It doesn't take itself overly seriously like 16 seems to be doing. There's a man with a bird living in his hair! It's still silly, and I like things that make me smile. I sincerely like 13 more than I like 15, 12, 9, or 8.
If you're gonna further talk about remaking FF13, I think you should bring up all the pre-products of it before its final release. Like how it was originally made for the PS2, where it uses a minimap during combat, how Vanille was the original protagonist, how the playable demo didn't have the Paradigm Shift mechanic, etc. Maybe we can put together the real vision of FF13 that the devs were trying to get if they weren't rushing to complete it.
I don't know if graphical enhancements are really necessary as the game still looks as good or better as many AA type titles (Atelier, Trails of Cold Steel, Tales, ect). Probably making the tutorial part not last 20 hours would be a big help and some of the other gameplay suggestions you mentioned also sound good. If you are not overhauling the graphics it would probably be easy enough to do the whole trilogy and sell it for like $30. The 2nd 2 games could probably be included with no gameplay changes.
For those wanting a remake: Final Fantasy VII REMAKE is basically a completely game to FF VII. It added in new quests, a jukebox, upgrading weapons, being able to move around in battle and it is a completely different game. A remaster (such as Spyro, Crash or FF X) upgrades the graphics and adds a small bit of new content. (The Zodiac Age does this by adding Trial Mode, Jobs and new liscense boards) It's the same game. A XIII remaster is all that's needed, not a remake.
Bought FFXiii-2 when it came out and dabbled with it (My 1st FF btw) and kind of enjoyed it so picked up FFXiii disc cheap for XBox360, wait 5 years and decided to give both another go, again only dipping in to them. Cue the XBox One X versions and I'm in, Absolutely loved FFXiii, the whole linear thing helped as a FF noob - you know where to go, you just have to master the combat and paradigms. Having finished FFXiii and FFXiii-2 in the last 12 months I can honestly say "FFXiii is my favourite FF game I've played". I actually like the FFXiii characters I felt they had an arc (Well Snow and Hope did, Sahz was cool throughout). If I had to suggest a change to FFXiii it would be to bring paradigms in earlier (oh, and the team lead dying should NOT be Game over), with FFXiii-2 I'm not sure what to change to make it better Noel & Serah made a likeable team and I really enjoyed visiting the same locations in different times). Now playing FFX (with X-2 already downloaded and not quite hooked but I'm only 10h in (and thanks to FF13 versions I realise 10h is nothing compared to the joy/sorrow that is to come). Enjoyed your vid btw and subscribed.
Even I have almost the entire trilogy for pc (I have to buy LR yet) I would love to see a remaster of the trilogy as a whole (in fact I treat this trilogy as one entire game, is weird, I know xD). I would make some changes in 13-1, like no game over when leader dies, change leader during battles (like 13-2) or can revisit old chapters with secret zones that includes secret items too. Well, 2 of your videos in a row that I like (the other was the other about 13 being worth now) so I think a sub is deserved.
13-2 was just as addicting as 10-2. I personally like 13 the least from the trilogy. 13-3 definitely needs some heavy revision, it NEEDS to get rid of the time pressure!
Funny you mention battle mechanics you hated, because in XIII-2 they made it so you could not only change character mid battle but also it's not an instant game over if the controlled one dies, and you can run from most encounters on the field pretty easily too, still can't run mid battle but one can argue the "Retry" option is pretty much a run away.
I absolutely love Final Fantasy XIII Trilogy. I never understood people hating ff13. I was like 9 or 10 when I first played the Trilogy, and I loved them. I still love them now, and have played the Trilogy so many times.
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If they do a remaster, I'd want the whole trilogy.
Same me
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@@locdogsgg9135 yeah this game is better then them New others for me 8.and 9 and 10 and 13 are very awsome part of final fantasy
@@amoola_ I've played 10-15, and I agree this one alone definitely needs a remake. Hands downs.
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Someone once mentioned that the linearity and lack of interaction in the game made sense with the story since they were constantly on the run. They couldn't risk being caught or noticed. And i would like all 3. I want to play ff13-2 and i never got to finish LR. It sucks that PS4 isn't backwards compatible
Even so, once your off Cocoon and On Pulse, you should have more Freedom to do and Explore in a way similar to that of FF10, 12, and even FF15!
Also, It did Not Make any Damn sense for the Ark Section to be So Goddamn Forced after the Bart Fight!
Let’s also Add some more Lore to Taejin’s Tower, cause Non of that section Made any Goddamn Sense!
I agree about the story calling for how linear FF13 was, the issue I (and many) had however was how LONG that linearity lasted, like 75% was hallways and lack of changing party leaders. :I I think if the cast fell off Cocoon say after they got branded L'cie and there were towns on Pulse to explore with the mission of returning to Cocoon, that would have been a much better game and more in line with Final Fantasy imho.
Linearity has been done much better in games before XIII. Hell, FFX was linear as well, but you could still explore areas, play minigames, and use an airship.
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I play on my series X and yeah I’m loving my time with it the story is compelling and the faster loading times which where a bit on the long side on my X360 make it all the better for it...
I love the linearity actually after games like Valhalla and all the other open world games I quit playing because of how dragged out they where
This was a good game at launch imo and it’s even better with the age where in atm
The entire trilogy most definitely
I've always been a fan of ff13 somewhat of a " secret lover of sorts"
Same. The music and combat was fine for me.
Same. I don't see why people hated this game so much. I mean yeah there is a couple of things that get annoying like he said in the end of the video but I honestly think it's a good addition to the series. And they need to bring it back. I feel like they won't tho because they don't think they'll make enough money off of remastering it and putting them out there.
I’m a lover and it’s far from a secret
i just dont get how someone can love 15 and try to tell me anything about video games
@@losttheory2761 it's mostly the sequels that are at fault for that. Yes they did improve the gameplay drastically, but the story tanked lower and lower each time. That and most FF fans my self included don't like sequels to begin with
This game was far over hated. I loved all three installments when I played them many many years ago. I’ve played all ff main games now for the exception of the two MMOs (and recently just started ff12 for the first time…loving that one too). And compared to eachother, there are better and worse aspects to each. But there isn’t a bad game in the bunch. Infact I would go as far as saying, that the 13 trilogy may be one of my favorites.
I also think the ff15 hate is pretty dumb too. Nothing is perfect, but it was a unique and quality piece of work.
I love XII due to the characters (you may see similar relationships between Vaan & Basch as with Hope & Snow) the story and the open world. Although XIII has not much of them, the Paradigm system was definitely a first. (I don't hate the Gambit system, that was great and I like how it stayed)
@@Dat_DekuBoi ive since best it. Your right. 12 was good. Looking forward to 16 now
While I will admit ff 15 left me In tears. I’d much rather would’ve gotten Versus XIII but Nomura seems to be dead set on bringing it back so I’m hyped
Underrated ff , and i remembered i was so hyped when I saw LR demo at E3 long time ago , this trilogy is awesome
No they weren’t. The first game [FFXIII] was horrible. The second [FFXIII-2] was good. The third [Lightning Returns] had a bad localization but great gameplay. Remake the first one and remaster the others… but please fix Buhuni into his jpn counter part. The western localization version is so bad it hurts.
A remaster would be awesome. There are four new things I think should be included into a FFXIII remaster:
1. Integrate the FFXIII novella and audio drama, which included how Lightning met Snow, how Serah became a l'Cie and Lightning hearing the words of her dying mother, all fully voiced by the original cast. It's what happened with the X/X-2 Remaster.
2. The datalogs should be made into collectables found in the levels and all the text is fully voiced too.
3. Hope's Eidolon boss battle happens in Chapter 7 (when Hope confronts Snow about his mother's death) instead of Chapter 11.
4. More post-game content like a secret Caius boss fight.
Great ideas I hope the devs will not ignore when the time comes to remaster this amazing game. Specially the datalog, the trilogy has an impressive world building effort in it that most people didn't get to know because it's hidden as a silent read. They could even add a couple cutscenes for the datalog entries, with almost all characters having been 3D modeled for the sequels.
I would also ask for a Jihl miniboss fight in the airship instead of throwing away that character's buildup like the original did.
Short cutscenes can be broken down to just voice acting while exploring the map, too.
2 is how actually how the analects work, they're also the only datalog entries worth reading. 3 will never happen unless they remake the game which won't happen for a long time, if ever
That would work better for a remake than a remaster. But I agree. Also they could add more about Noel's past and IDK maybe more about Noel Snow and Hope from after XIII-2 to before Lightning returns.
Now that I'm reading this... It is kinda odd that Hope's Eidolon fight happens after the gang arrives to Pulse and not during his confrontation with Snow.
I have been waiting for YEARS for it's Remaster or even a Re-release at this point now. I can't respect how SE is treating one of their own creations, smh. It's my Favorite FF game of them all
Same dude
@Nobody it’s also my favorite. Personally, I didn’t read the data log until I was basically done with the story. They definitely should’ve done a better job from the beginning instead of throwing so many terms at you before explaining them, but less than halfway through the game they’ve already explained most of them, by which time I was already living the story. I personally thought the cats of characters, especially lightning but not so much hope, we’re amazing. The ATB system was also super fun, and having the characters move through the battlefield while you waited made it eel so much more alive than every other FF before where the characters just stand still while you wait to attack again (my gripe with most turn based combat games). Plus the ending gets me eveytime I watch it. Probably my favorite ending of any FF that I’ve played
This game got 3 parts... It can wait before it gets a fucking HD remake!
@@chicodepuertorico1450 Noone is talking about a remake, it's about a remaster which is very little effort for a game studio, nonexistent really if they let another studio do it.
Technically it has been re-released... on the Xbox Game Pass
My heart skipped a beat when I saw the title of this video.
Dog, if they re-released the 13 series I would loose my mind. I guess I'll have to keep dreaming for now.
The graphics for this game still hold up to this day. Loved the game then, love the game now.
I was at a young age when 13 first came out (I was 13 going on 14) and I remember how everyone hated it. I wasn’t exactly sure how I felt about it. I didn’t hate it but I didn’t love it? Maybe I was scared to admit that it wasn’t that bad and people would’ve dunk me lol.
One thing for sure is that I kept coming back on this game, including its sequels. As the years passed by, I replayed the trilogy with an open mind and reading its datalog and I finally admitted that this game is actually fantastic flaws and all. This game deserves a second chance for everyone and just see the game as a sole title and don’t depend so much on hoping it be better than other FF titles. That’s not what the series is about.
I love FF13 trilogy and I would love to see a remastered edition. Square is very communicative towards us fans so with enough vocals, hopefully this can be reached out to them (if it hasn’t already).
this was my first FF game. most people hating on it were fans of other FF games. I loved it. The linearity kept me moving along through the story. I appreciated that, unlike FFXV where i spent a few weeks just playing around in the sandbox. RPGs should always be about the story and the characters first.
I’d argue that 13 deserves a remaster with few adjustments while lighting returns gets a full on remake. I swear if they had done lighting returns right it would have been a blast.
Also 13-2 is already the 2nd best ff game on Pc, beaten by 14.
Is that before or after modding it? I just got Xiii-2 and read the reviews saying you need to mod it to fix frame issues and crashes did you deal with this?
From what I've heard about LR, it's basically Majora's Mask but Final Fantasy
@@Dat_DekuBoi Same. I'm eager to go find out why
Wasn’t expecting this kind of video, all over the internet there are vids about how bad is ff XIII but seeing this is actually good! I loved the trilogy of XIII
I have been playing the trilogy for years and I loved it. I understand completely why some people hated it, due to linear areas or dying when your character died. I think if there was a remaster they should change areas like the Hanging Edge and make various paths. They should also switch to characters once the main party member dies. They should remaster the trilogy since overall there were some stuff in the game that never got added and there are slight problems with each game.
they should also add the other 2 characters on the field, running behind you, at all times when present.
@@NoctLightCloud Late reply, but wasn't that already in the original game tho.
I remember that your active party members always followed you in the overworld.
Another underated game like 8 and 15 i love playing the ff13series
Lol 15 and 13 were meh but the most underrated game is 9, god 9 broke me
@@Naoise-s6o 9 made me drop a tear but I really how we get ff13 on PlayStation 4 or 5 soon
@Null Dork V is the most underrated in the series, IMO, simply because no one ever even talks about it. I played it a few years back thinking it'd be kinda 'meh' but it was phenomenal. Really got me good. Story and gameplay were both great. Loved the characters. I find IV's cast and story boring and overrated so I was pleasantly surprised by V.
definitely 8. 15 nah in my mind it's basically the new ff7 simply because of its history and multimedia projects (cash grabs)
9 isn't that underrated. I don't know a single person who has said a bad word about 9. Most people rate it highly
My favorite FF game as well. The first time I played it, I didn’t understand it.. like at all lol. Then about a year or so later I tried it again.. and absolutely fell in love with the game. I agree with someone else’s comment; I think a lot of it was the battle system. Players either not understanding how to use the paradigm system properly, intimidated them, or just flat out got wrecked in battles. Cause my second play through.. I was completely floored.. and yearning for more. I was so sad when I finished the game, and even thought on the story years later. The story is magnificent, maybe my favorite story of all time in a game.. aside from the Mass Effect series of course lol. But yea, I really think maybe this game and the paradigm system was just a ahead of it’s time.. but players for some reason just couldn’t adjust to it.
13 is like a good wine, it gets better more years pass.
The story is amazing. You have to dig for the plot threads tho. It's one of the greatest epochs ever told (just the original title)
You have to listen to prelude... And ruminate on the threads. It's so epic... I get hit so hard in the feels when I think about how amazing this game wanted to be...
the battle system is awesome. it's like a puzzle that you have to figure out. If you play the game manually it is incredibly challenging and satisfying. I never used auto battle
Same with 12's combat system.
I started playing this game a while ago for the second time and I'm still loving it! Now being older I'm able to understand the plot better - it was a lot to take in as a 13-year-old when I didn't understand English that well.
I like the fact the game is more narrowed instead of an open world. I don't have much time to do all the side quests etc. I did miss visiting some beautiful areas in previous chapters though. But mostly, I just want to enjoy the gameplay and the story. The graphics, mechanics and the soundtrack are all amazing in this game (However I do hate the fact that your party leader dying ends up to a game over).
Great video (subbed)! I agree with everything you said! I hope we get a remaster one day and Lightning and the group get more love as they deserve. :)
Absolutely. I've always loved ff13. It was everything I expected it to be when it came out. Not my favorite in the franchise by far, but definitely not a bad game. Ff13 has a lot of issues like what you pointed out. I would love to see them addressed. But a lot of people hated the game just for its linearity and restriction of freedom. Open world doesn't make a good game. I appreciated the linear approach because it allowed the game to tell a better story. And I still hold that ff13's story is just as phenomenal as any other ff title.
Underrated game and underrated RUclipsr instant sub after both of these FFXIII videos, love your content man! ✊
The entire trilogy, all of them are amazing and deserve it
What I think need to be change
Combat System
1) I wish we can change each character just like FF10 but the problem is with Paradigm Customization that need Roles to be set first. That is a big problem
2) Change the character that we can control while in battle just like FF13-2
3) Customization for Paradigm Shift animation into 2, Skip Animation or Animated
4) Improve and buff Technique skill and add new technique
Summon System
1) Buff Eidolon, like A LOT
2) Make it easier to summon, separate it from Technique
3) Add new summon that can be assigned to all character just like FF12, just apply it on Crystarium
Crystarium
1) Create new branches for us to select some Spell, Technique or Skill, because I hate saboteur -ga spell, or give option to skip skill/spell/technique nodesa
2) Create new fragment/item call as Spell Fragment or Status fragment that can be add in Crystarium of character that we chose to learn the spell or increase status of.
Story/Gameplay
1) Instead of all of the story, lore and information got throw into datalog, create NPC's along the journey to explain every important details need to be know in Cocoon, While in Gran Pulse we can have Cieth Mission Stone to do the job. Some people confuse what is this and that , that they gave up to understand what the story about.
2) About the linearity, I can't think of anything since the story is about some group that have time limit to finish their focus being chased by whole Cocoon since they are enemy of Cocoon. The reason why Gran Pulse is the only place where the linearity gone
3) Create a lot of interactive Puzzles to access some area/zone, instead of fight, fight, again and fight through all game. Example, to decode security machines lock puzzles, access to the next room instead of pressing 1 X
4) Make all places accessible after the game end, like Nautilus, so we can enjoy some mini game or new mission just like Serendipity in FF13-2 or to revisit miss-able treasures or some new content. Create teleport crystal like FF10/FF12. Make new side mission in Cocoon with NPC
5) Add Secret treasure/ultimate weapon/items/mission instead of obvious floating Treasure Sphere
6) Can save anytime, anywhere like FF13-2
7) MORE GIL DROP!!!!
8) Add Hard, Insane, God mode
I’m still waiting for remasters on ps4, even if it is hated I’d love to play them.
the entire trilogy. I have always loved 13, it made me fall more in love. I always go into a game clean minded. No thoughts, no expectations - just a free mind ready to play the game to the fullest. To feel all the emotions, to grind and so much more. It's really nice to see people who enjoy 13, I defo think 'fans' can just end up ruining games themselves from always having to high expectations and just trash talking. Hopefully though, we get a remaster of 13. Would love to play it on the new gen! (I also enjoyed 15, some things I was eh on of course but I was very open minded and took the journey on.)
I just feel like there''s so much potential for this game to be great. An actual remake would easily propel it to the top tier of FF games. Here's are something that it could improved
1. Better battle user interface: manual command is such a hassle because I have to surf through layers of menu just to access the character abitlities. Did you know you can change characters in XIII-2, but it worthless because it's tucked behind layers of menu, making it too slow. They should put the abilties selection menu as the default menu when you enter combat, and being able to switch characters simply using the D-pad. Also, out of combat, you should be able to arrange your abitlies list so that you can put your most important ones on the top. Also, how about being to acess higher level abilties by simple holding down the basic level abilities, for example, hold down the Fire button will extended it into Fira and eventually Firaga. That way, the need to for auto-battle is eliminated, which is a source of complaint most people have with this game.
2. Far more important than just being to switch characters on the fly imo, is being able to assisgn "Paradigm Leader", as in auto-matically switch a a specific character after chaging into a paradigm. For example, in Com-Rav-Rav, I want to control Lightning since she is the main chain builder. But in Med-Sen-Med I want to control Hope is he is the main healer, and in Com-Com-Rav, I want to control Fang since is the main damage dealer.
3. This might be controversial but I devise a way to move Chapter 11 (the open world chapter) right to the begining of the game. It goes like this. After the cutscene where Anima turned the characters into L-cie, we just cut to black and start the game in Pulse, with only Lightning and Hope is playable. They talked about how to they crash landed, and their supplies wer scattered all over the place, and how they needed to collect them back. As you go to the one of locations to collect supplies, you get a playable flashback of previous chapters. After the playing the chapter, all your gears and items you collected during the flashback will be added to the current time in Pulse. Addtionally, you can unlock playable characters in Pulse by playing the memory flashback. That way, you can weave in open world sections with linear ones to keep the gameplay loop less boring.
4. Would be nice if you can get some actual shops instead of the online one where you can buy things at a discounted price, or different shops can offer discount of different items. Would be also nice to have a central town in Pulse where we can hangout and buys stuffs. Yeah, I know, there isn't supposed be any more human left in Pulse, BUT, how able bunch of creatures just decided to gather round a build a civilazation in place of human, kinda how the robot village in Nier Automata works. That would be pretty cute.
5. I think a bit of lore dump about the nature of Pulse, Cocoon, and their Fal'cies at the begining of the game would make the story, especially during the early chapters, less confusing.
I kinda like the fact on it locking who you play as in the story. It let's you get a feel of the characters you play as instead of just putting you on one, so by the end of the game, you know who your gonna play as and how to use them.
They are all available on GamePass now with upgraded visuals. The second one is my favourite. It fixes all the issues with the first game and its just a lot funner.
Been playing through the series lately, finally getting around to Lightning Returns. If there were to be a remaster, it definitely should be the whole Trilogy. No reason to be like Bethesda, re-releasing Skyrim by itself for full price over and over.
Also, who says FFXV was the worst? FFXV was great! The worst ones are FFTA, and VIII.
I would like all 3. They're so special to me for different reasons. I'm leaning more towards XIII-2 maybe because of the soundtrack and slightly improved/faster combat system. I would even be happy with just a re-release.
I would like to see the trilogy remade. I liked the battle system changes they did in the sequel and how switching the paradigms was faster so they could add that for the first one.
It's great to see the last few people who understand this game
@Nobody
I think this game is similar to FF8. It wasn't until much later that people appreciated it. I personally like 13-2 and Lightning Returns more, but I perfectly understand people that don't like the game.
I loved this game so much, I played it when I was idk, 6 years old, I don’t see why people hate it
There are some mods for the PC version. Upscaled 1080p FMVs (they are beautiful, especially Snows and Serahs scene), improved textures, designable weapons and you can even switch some character models.
I actually loved this series (XIII, XIII-2 & LR)
I would definitely recomend it. It's unique in its on way.
If you want an adventure and a big world to explore you'll not get that but you're gonna get one but if you will get one hell of a story.
I'd love to play not a remaster but a remake, making Cocoon a bigger and larger area so that it is not so tedious like they did in FF VII Remake.
I loved this game since the beginning. Would buy it again if remastered.
I think it was mostly fans who didn't like a challenge, wanted a simpler turned based battle system, and didn't adapt well with modern RPGs.
Ff13 pretty much played itself. The writing was an aweful mess. The characters were unlikable. It was one really long narrow corridor. The game was notorious for good reason. It did have good music and visuals.
@@Eskimo_iio oh no it didn't. You had to shift and plan a lot and you couldn't outlevel the challenge and you had time limits on bosses.
@@Eskimo_iio You can let most FF play themselves if you grind some levels.
@@agafaba Never had to grind in 13. Like I said before, it plays itself. Pretty much was a pre alpha to the autoplay function in modern mobile games.
@@Eskimo_iio Your being a little deceptive, and I should clarify.
Much like FF13, you can auto play with most Final Fantasy games, and auto play some bosses if you grind.
I actually LOVE XIII! I spent like, 40 hours in it and only made it to Chapter 11 before I got really bad burn out due to not only having COVID at the time, but also binging FF I-IV Pixel Remasters as well as the Remakes of III and IV! The time I spent with it though was amazing and I'm definitely gonna play through it all the way when I reach it during my FF I-XV playthroughs on my new Steam account!
Damn all FF games? That's a commitment, one I fully respect
That sounds like quite an experience. I’m wishing you luck!
Bro I was just talking about this yesterday.. so weird I found this video thank you for being a huge fan of my child hood game and the game that got me into the series
Entire trilogy, but the main thing I would really like them to fix is the real world time limit for the maps in Lightning Returns. That was what killed the trilogy for me, because I love to explore maps & collect things, but I had such bad anxiety trying to rush through areas I didn’t get to appreciate it at all. I loved XIII-2 more than any of them, but XIII had scenes that are still some of my favorites in FF as a whole. While I’m a much bigger fan of X, IV, & now of XIV, XIII deserves another shot to shine.
FFXIII was my first game in the FF series. I remember the common theme was that long time FF players absolutely hated it and new comers, like myself, enjoyed it very much.
Looking back I did find it annoying how the “real game” started at the end of the game.
Final fantasy 13 was the first FF game that I played and I absolutely fell in love with the game and the universe of FF but it really sucks that it doesn’t get the love and recognition from Square Enix. They really should bring it to the PS4 store to allow new comers and fans to FF13 to experience it agian/for the first time, it’s a really good game and is mainly story based. Yea it has its cons but it’s so good! If they did remaster it they could add some more side content and flesh out the story a bit more to make it a bit better! This game needs more love and attention, Square need to realise this game has a massive fan base.
13-2 was really short, but the best out of the trilogy. I heard that the developers got influence from assassins creed for lightning returns and I could definitely see it with the NPC’s and quests all throughout that 3rd game
I just need the Trilogy ported/remastered for PS4/5 and I’m good for life.
I don’t think the graphics even need to be touched up much except for maybe Lightning Returns. Just give the games some quality of life enhancements and ship it off.
Edit: another addition I would like is a theater mode for all 3 games. The cutscenes are gorgeous and a built in way to view them at any time would be great.
Dug out my Final Fantasy 13, 13 Part 2 and picked up Lightning Returns on Xbox 360. I planned to go through them on my Xbox One X one day since they are all now One X enhanced.
13-2 is my favorite game from my childhood, if they remade it my depression would end itself.
EXCEPT FOR THAT FUCKING CASINO DLC, BANE OF MY EXISTENCE.
Get an XSX as it's basically remastered on it BUT don't use/dl any DLC as that seems to destabilize the game more and it has major slowdown at times.
Plays fine if not in 4K but you lose the better visual clarity and sharpness.
If they do a remaster they might as well do all three, however, the first XIII's biggest problem is that the writing team failed at the basics when it came to telling this game's story. They stuck a lot in the datalog, they used terms without providing real context to them, and the biggest sin was when you got to Pulse they didn't use all the side quests, or even a significant percentage of them, to fill in the lore of the fabula nova crystallis epic they were trying to build or the history of what seemed to be a vacant planet. If they had done a better job of incorporating the nuances into the active story, allowing the players to experience it with the characters, I believe this game would have suffered far less of a backlash.
Play it on Xbox series x, it runs at 4K. Looks amazing. The entire trilogy runs at 4K.
The trilogy is good overall but remastering just the first game would be absolutely fine for me. I'm sure it being a trilogy in the first place is part of the reason we haven't seen a remaster or even a port. But it's a bit of a bummer that far as I know there isn't anything saying it'll happen anytime soon at least.
(Edit: am i missing something or is my phone being weird cause i coulda sworn you had more than 2 subs)
This is a backup channel, the main one is changing content completely (If you look at it it has only 1 video now) . This is just for people that wanted to watch the old videos
@@reliableprez what’s the channel called again ?
@@richningen It's now called TGL Reacts, it used to be called ReliablePrez
When I first bought this game a little after launch, I was completely unaware of the disdain and hatred it was receiving at the time. When I found out about all that I felt like my enjoyment of FFXIII, and subsequently its sequels, was something I should have been ashamed of. It warms my heart to see so much positivity towards FFXIII in recent years. I'd buy a remaster in a heartbeat.
Forget a remaster the game needs a remake
@@ironrex6979 True, as much as I enjoyed the game, it's in dire need of polish. I really like the world and concepts of XIII all across the trilogy and I feel like a remake would be a nice way to address criticisms and give Fabula Nova Crystalis a second chance to shine. Also need more of Sazh, just in general, I'll defend these games to my grave but they did him dirty.
@@thedaniel13000 I firmly believe that Lightning Returns did the whole cast dirty 😂. FFXIII-2 was a good idea and solid game although felt more like a spin off. That said I agree with you. The original ffxiii had a great story about faith and free will, great lore, creative Re invention of the crystal/warriors of light mythos, gorgeous art direction, phenomenal graphics, and the characters weren’t bad just badly executed. The only problem was the linearity and lack of actual gameplay. If a remake addresses those two points game would be 10/10. The other two can be remastered however I would prefer Lightning’s Returns to be Re translated to be more faithful to the Japanese version.
@@ironrex6979 As much as I love LR I'll concede that's definitely true holy shit. I've certainly numbed myself to its flaws over the years, like the first two games it has a cool world and lore (like the concept of exploring a rapidly shrinking and dying world with immortal people and dead remnants of eras long past is really novel to me for example) I feel like that game was probably executed the worst of the three in terms of main cast and their arcs. I just don't think it took the time to delve deep into the characters or work hard enough to make their arcs satisfying enough. We all know how they did Sazh dirty, they pushed Snow in the right direction but it didn't even really touch the hatred he felt in the opening CG cutscene, I thought a more antagonistic Snow than what we got would have been sick. I think Noel was pushed in a pretty good direction too and has some really cool lines but I feel like he would have done more to stop the Children of Etro if he didn't like them. Vanille wasn't horrible but I think the position they placed her in meant that she was kind of out of the way and didn't get enough time to do much, I like that you can take time to visit her whenever you feel like when you do enough quests in Luxerion. Fang was handled decently imo and it was nice to have her as a temp party member. Lightning and Hope get the most time in the spotlight but I feel like their roles as God's servants necessitate that their characters feel a little off. Even though Bhunivelze is cruel and it makes sense that Lightning and Hope would be stripped of the things that makes them human, I can see why that doesn't click with other people. Overall while good ideas and concepts were introduced, it still felt a little lacking in retrospect.
@@ironrex6979 sorry for the wall of text I don't normally comment much on anything but when it comes to these games I've got things to say.
The game has a kind of a remaster with the xbox backwards compatibility, it runs at 4k and downloads a higher bitrate cinematics.
XIII was my first FF game I've ever played. (Besides Dissidia). What got me interested was the game was notorious for being a terrible game, but had 2 sequels. So I wanted to check it out. But currently on XIII-2 and slowly progressing. For XIII, I really enjoyed the gameplay once I reached chapter 9. For the most part my gripes were that the game felt like it was playing itself for the majority of the chapters, for the sake of telling a story. But the dialog and cutscenes did not deliver that story well enough. The gameplay was fun once I sat down and gave a real attempt to understand the mechanics, (I did a lot of reading in the datalogs to get the full spectrum. Even then had to look some stuff up). Movement felt clunky and frustrated me at times. And the characters felt so unnatural except Sazh. But Most all of those things were fixed in XIII-2 so far, (at least in my opinion). Other than that, the story was really amazing! Music was awesome! And the character design was really done well! I would love a remaster or a remake! HD Fang sounds like a great idea!
Personally I would kill for ffXIII trilogy remaster. As of right now in 2022 I'm only 19 and I've always loved final fantasy just like my father did, being a younger fan of the series XIII was only fourth Final Fantasy game I ever played and the second one I ever beat. I noticed a lot of people hating on how linear the game is and while I understand the critique like @solomon said in the comments they were on the run so it does make sense. Aside from how linear the game was I still fell in love with the characters as they were fleshed out more in ffXIII-2 & LR. A remaster is exactly what this games needs like you said with a few adjustments to the combat and a few other areas of the game and a graphic boost I feel like ff13 has the capability of being placed up there in the same tier as FFVII & my favourite FFX
I dont understand how you have so little subs! Love the videos and discussion! Hope you keep it up :)
If you had a problem with ff13's combat system, you could play 13-2 it allowed you to switch leaders in the case your default leader dies or even for strategic purposes. ( 13 allowed you to keep using your limit break as long as you had the wind up to it, 13-2 you could only do it once per battle but because you could switch leaders you could use a max of 2 per fight )
If they want to remaster this game they need to have the option that they had in VII Remake for the combat system, where the player was able to choose if they wanted a combat system that gave the player more freedom like the one in XV or if they wanted a more turn based system like this one
Excellent video, earned a sub, can’t wait to dig through the channel’s backlog
I would love to have a remaster of the trilogy and Lightning is still one of my favorite ff characters.
Wait wait wait... If you play the PC or Xbox next gen you are playing it remastered. I legit just did a playthru 120 hours and it's amazing but you also want to play it and the other 2 13 series
One big quality of life change i would love is when you paradigm shift the first time each battle, if it didnt go to each person. I know for the first few chapters its helpful, but once you get a feel for the game you know what youre switching too and it delays fights enough to be annoying for me personally. It doesnt do it after the first time, and only does it the first time you're not airborne, and personally i would like to see that away entirely (or at least have the settings option to toggle it off).
I would love to see a remaster of this game in general. The change on a console view from ps3/xbox360 to ps5/xbox series x/s would be breathtaking imo, however i dont imagine a huge change for pc considering monitor sizes not changing too much. Tv size for console has increased greatly between 2009 and now (2021) and thats one of the biggest flaws ive felt playing it again this year
1) confusing annoying names and words for things. Remember "Edgar?" Now we have "Fate le' Cie' and "Sazh" 2) creepy underage sex stuff 3) unapologetically annoying characters 4) insanely overcomplicated story.
Yup. It's hard to invest in dumb stories and dumber characters.
The more personal story of 13-2 was much better for that reason, even though the time travel stuff was wacky af.
Can we also get a remaster of "Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings" for pc. I did enjoy this ds game a lot :D
FF13 trilogy was great in my opinion.
I've never played Revenant Wings myself (although I love XII) and I can't find it on an emulator so I'd definitely want something like that
I think that a remaster like Crisis core reunion would fit the 13 trilogy it would work pretty great...just without replacing the voice actors cause... oh god poor Zack.
Give it a month or so and you'll hear my heartbroken opinion on Zack's new va...just why square
I'd like them to remake the whole trilogy as a single game with XIII chapters. The story is very interesting.
They need to make a remake. If they just did a remaster you'd have tons of ppl still bithching about the linear feel of the game again. Even if "it makes sense from a plot pov to be linear at the beggining", they could at least add more freedom of exploration. Also they could fix the english dub so ppl don't hate certain characters annoying from the get go.
I typed up this long ass essay as a comment then deleted it out of frustration lmfaoo
TLDR of it was : Absolutely love the Trilogy, adored every second, but I understand why people wouldn't find the entry title to be good. So I recommend:
-Rework XIII's long ass hallways
-Let the shops be less depressing
-XIII-2s Merciful combat flexibility and Lightning Returns Self Input Combat system, where there's technically paradigms still. So no 3 classes like LR, but let each XIII class, feel responsive and high energy with entering in commands to fight rather than loading an ATB.
(Imagine FF7R where each party member is controllable- and have movement and attacks/spells, but let their moveset be Paradigm specific. And ofc they can have the shitty tip toe movement of LR)
- 60 fps XIII-2 and Lighting Returns... Pls.
I want them to fix the battle system issues that you have mentioned, add the ability to switch characters mid-battle or at least who you control mid-battle, and if the leader dies it shouldn't be a gameover. The leader's death causing a gameover discourages players to play as the characters with the lower HPs like Hope or Vanille.
Of course I want the trilogy remastered together, even though I won't play XIII-2 again.
My favorite Final Fantasy
FF13 was a game of my childhood and I've always loved its storyline and beautiful graphics, as well as the relationships and dynamics between all of the characters. I played the whole trilogy and absolutely loved all of it, and I quite honestly didn't even know how much hate the game had until very recently, since I've always thought of the game as beautiful with amazing gameplay. If a remaster came out for the trilogy I would absolutely play it, I've grown such a connection to the game, characters and world and would love to see it in even better graphics to enjoy the experience again.
I would love to have the entire trilogy remastered. I never played light night returns, however I enjoyed 13 and 13-2
I would not think twice to buy FFXIII remaster, it is one of the most special games for me, despite its flaws.
Things I would improve are, first and foremost, the story and the way it is presented (so that it is easy to understand), characters and their personality, and the only visual upgrade I would really like to see is the open area in chapter 11.
It’s funny when this came first came out me my cousin and my uncle all picked it up and played it and we loved it the graphics and music were amazing and the story and gameplay was fun. When I went to school everyone was shitting on this game they hated it. Me and my cousin felt like the only one who ever liked it. Great video man
Yeah, I honestly had a lot of fun playing this game back when I was a teenager. I didn't get the story but I loved Lightning as a character.
Although personally, I think a remake would be better. From what I've seen in video reviews, the context in the story comes in notes you don't have to read.
I also saw in another review that one of the staff members had said they had enough cut content to make another game.
Seems like a great opportunity to bring those scrapped ideas back to life and try again.
The whole thirteen trilogy tells one while story as far as characters and world goes and each has even more fantastic battle system and world. Love this trilogy
Late to this. I think 13 if it took place completely in Gran Pulse could’ve been a massive success. 15 Was praised for its open world while 13 went completely unappreciated for saving its incredible open world segment for the final act
FFXIII and its sequels absolutely deserve a remaster. Not only does it have one of the most beautiful worlds in an FF game, it has one of the best OSTs, so this game stuck out to me even before I fell in love with it. The first game's story is also pretty intriguing once you finally understand it, and I feel like the characters grow on you. I've been wishing for years to experience this game anew, so if Square Enix decides to release a PS4/PS5 remaster, I'll buy it in a heartbeat ❤️
I hope one day we see the Trilogy of Lightning on the Switch:) comon square u can do it!
I'm currently re-playing the game on ps3 and I love it but my only problem is that you don't earn gil after each fight so buying the weapons or accessories you want is more difficult especially when you have to sell the components that you need to upgrade your gear .
I would love to have the whole trilogy with 13 especially getting the ability to control different characters early, and a rework on the leveling system like they did with both 10 hd and 12 Zodiac. I feel like this is certainly in the realm of possibilities and would do wonders for the feel of the game. Flexibility and creativity are so important in final fantasy games (and RPG's in general)
Honestly I think the game could be a lot better if they made balance changes
1. Make any character able to be the party leader early on
2.Make the option to cut the paradigm shift shorter like 13-2
3. Stop capping the levels just let people do what they want
4. Later on in the game don't punish the player if wanting to level up different roles
5. Make new balances to the character's making vanile have more HP than lighting is so odd tbh
6. Allow characters to change party mbers during battle
7. Make a option to play every character during battle
These would make so many things better can't say it would help the story but as a game it would be a much better experience
Trilogy, i love the characters so much, even the ones people tend not to like.
I enjoyed the game when it came out and i get weird looks whenever I admit it. Bit i had the same issues with the linear progression, game over when the party leader dies when i LITERALLY have 2 other working party members, and all the other stuff you mentioned. I also had so much trouble grinding for gil, did anybody else have this problem. I definitely want a remake if they can fix these things. The story is one my favorites so far
My experience by the runs I had:
1st: Unfinished, got stucked on the first eidolon.
2nd: Unfinished, got even more frustrated, progressed a bit
3rd: BARTHANTHELUS I HATE YOU!!
4rd: So this is the way to beat the game, kill every thing on the scenery, I WON!
5rd: Steam version looks AWESOME!
My experiences
1st: On PS3, 5 yr old me knew nothing
2nd: Wow I really sucked at this game (then got stuck at the end of Chapter 5)
3rd: GOD FUCKING DAMN IT BARTHANDELEUS (specifically Chapter 9)
4th (and now): yay grinding
They could do a thing were we get an accecory after we build our crystarium were we can get gil in sted like they did with 12
So heres my wishlist for a Final Fantasy XIII remaster
1) Chapter Selection: Sometimes I want to go back to a certain chapter and admire the beauty of the environment, Palumpolom is one location where it is so beautiful
2) Able to Control the other party members: I really hate the 'one goes down and the rest fall' mechanic, if my party leader falls let me play as the other 5 and if all 5 go down than it's a game over just look at Pokemon for example.
3) Add a New+: FF15, Lightning Returns; and Kingdom Hearts all have a New Plus bwere you can replay the game with your character maxed out; while it will be OP I like to replay it to make certain boss battles easier and to grab items I might have missed
4) Easy way to make Gil: This game is the hardest to get money, sometimes I have to resort to selling items that way I can buy some remedy or weapon
5) remaster XIII-2 and Lightning Returns with all dlcs included: apart from XIII, its sequels are also the few FF games to have never gotten a remaster, LR is probably my favorite in the Trilogy due to its beautiful game environments, I find it funny how LR was never released on the PS4 and XBOX One considering back in 2014 those where the newest consoles
some of your suggested improvements with changing party members are actually in ffxiii-2! there were also other tweaks as well, like shortening that damn paradigm shift animation, which I'd love to see in ffxiii. I'm definitely on board to play a remaster trilogy myself on ps4/ps5
I think ff 13-2 needs a remastered version. Ff 13 has a nice difficulty lvl compared to ff 13-2. But like you mentioned, it would be great if you could change you main character during battle like in 13-2.
I would also be very cool if square would sell all ff 13 together. I don't think many people would buy 13-2 but if all games come in one package, people will most likely play 13-2
Ff13 trilogy remake with a "tbc" mode (ffx style combat option) an open crystarium from the beginning of the game, and the ability to jump between save points you've already been to to open things up more. They could also add more side content. Bring back triple triad, open up that amusement park area to get us a motorcycle race mini game, vr battles (like in 7 remake) and a blitz ball tournament like in ten. Oh and of course ,catching raising and riding chocobo is must. If square does this then the ff13 remake won't fell nearly as linear.
Edit: and oh God oh God is they let us actually play through the flying cutscenes in something that resembles the near atomata flying missions that would be fucking insane
If they remaster it, they need to apply the improvements they did for FFXIII-2 where possible. XIII-2 improved things in a way that made people who disliked the first at least say that Square "listened". There are battle updates in XIII-2 that make a world of difference and shouldn't be hard to apply to XIII at all. Also, make the crystarium more open from the start. If this affects difficulty, just adjust to make the game harder or easier. Additionally, where possible, they could add some of the missions that you get on Pulse onto Cocoon, giving you at least something else to do and improve pacing. Finally, for those missing the allure of "minigames", they could perhaps repurpose one of the XIII-2 minigames into Cocoon for simple rewards. Or maybe rehash the one Hope minigame for rewards.
Basically, I want them to improve the game within the confines of the code they have for both XIII and XIII-2. They shouldn't have to design any new models, music, or mechanics. The groundwork is there, just repurpose and modify things where possible and it's basically a different experience, save for the story.
As for remastering the other 2 games, I don't think they need much more than graphical updates. XIII was the best-looking of the XIII trilogy. As the trilogy went on, they shifted their focus from visual polish to gameplay expansion, and it shows.
I’ve played13, 13-2, and Lightning Returns to the point where I should stop - I’ve done everything and then some.
My real issue with 13 is the story and how it unfolds. It’s extremely hard to follow and becomes more so as the series continues. I stuck with it but only really started having fun when I had the whole party together.
The author of the video does a good job at pointing out what most people, including myself, find that’s holding the game back. To have people interested in any version of this game it would need a complete overhaul.
I can completely understand what people dislike and most of the criticisms are on point. Superbutterbun does a great video on FF13. It pretty much reflects my opinion on the series.
It's just a case of perspective, FF13 and 15 are great games IF you are new to the series! The old-school fans were never really going to like it, Final Fantasy has a very stubborn fanbase and I feel they would play nothing but FF6-FF10 for the rest of their lives if they had a choice. At least FF13 took some risks and tried something new. Some experiments are bound to fail.
i got tired of waiting for a remake so I built a custom PC, bought the games on Steam, and used the HD mods. Now I am playing in 4K and 60fps.
FF13 is the only midnight release for a video game I ever attended.
I love its world and characters. It's very bright and colorful (sorry, colourful). It's reminiscent of the, "you're on vacation" (sorry, "holiday") feel I got from FFX. Its a gorgeous world that deserves a remaster.
It doesn't take itself overly seriously like 16 seems to be doing. There's a man with a bird living in his hair! It's still silly, and I like things that make me smile.
I sincerely like 13 more than I like 15, 12, 9, or 8.
If you're gonna further talk about remaking FF13, I think you should bring up all the pre-products of it before its final release. Like how it was originally made for the PS2, where it uses a minimap during combat, how Vanille was the original protagonist, how the playable demo didn't have the Paradigm Shift mechanic, etc.
Maybe we can put together the real vision of FF13 that the devs were trying to get if they weren't rushing to complete it.
I don't know if graphical enhancements are really necessary as the game still looks as good or better as many AA type titles (Atelier, Trails of Cold Steel, Tales, ect). Probably making the tutorial part not last 20 hours would be a big help and some of the other gameplay suggestions you mentioned also sound good. If you are not overhauling the graphics it would probably be easy enough to do the whole trilogy and sell it for like $30. The 2nd 2 games could probably be included with no gameplay changes.
Yeah, his Steam footage looks great still.
For those wanting a remake:
Final Fantasy VII REMAKE is basically a completely game to FF VII. It added in new quests, a jukebox, upgrading weapons, being able to move around in battle and it is a completely different game.
A remaster (such as Spyro, Crash or FF X) upgrades the graphics and adds a small bit of new content. (The Zodiac Age does this by adding Trial Mode, Jobs and new liscense boards) It's the same game. A XIII remaster is all that's needed, not a remake.
Bought FFXiii-2 when it came out and dabbled with it (My 1st FF btw) and kind of enjoyed it so picked up FFXiii disc cheap for XBox360, wait 5 years and decided to give both another go, again only dipping in to them. Cue the XBox One X versions and I'm in, Absolutely loved FFXiii, the whole linear thing helped as a FF noob - you know where to go, you just have to master the combat and paradigms. Having finished FFXiii and FFXiii-2 in the last 12 months I can honestly say "FFXiii is my favourite FF game I've played". I actually like the FFXiii characters I felt they had an arc (Well Snow and Hope did, Sahz was cool throughout). If I had to suggest a change to FFXiii it would be to bring paradigms in earlier (oh, and the team lead dying should NOT be Game over), with FFXiii-2 I'm not sure what to change to make it better Noel & Serah made a likeable team and I really enjoyed visiting the same locations in different times). Now playing FFX (with X-2 already downloaded and not quite hooked but I'm only 10h in (and thanks to FF13 versions I realise 10h is nothing compared to the joy/sorrow that is to come). Enjoyed your vid btw and subscribed.
10000% agree. Even after every subsequent release, I always miss 13 series.
Even I have almost the entire trilogy for pc (I have to buy LR yet) I would love to see a remaster of the trilogy as a whole (in fact I treat this trilogy as one entire game, is weird, I know xD). I would make some changes in 13-1, like no game over when leader dies, change leader during battles (like 13-2) or can revisit old chapters with secret zones that includes secret items too.
Well, 2 of your videos in a row that I like (the other was the other about 13 being worth now) so I think a sub is deserved.
I think it’s content like this that helps the industry bring in a brighter outlook on things and gives hopes to everyone’s who enjoys it
13-2 was just as addicting as 10-2. I personally like 13 the least from the trilogy. 13-3 definitely needs some heavy revision, it NEEDS to get rid of the time pressure!
Funny you mention battle mechanics you hated, because in XIII-2 they made it so you could not only change character mid battle but also it's not an instant game over if the controlled one dies, and you can run from most encounters on the field pretty easily too, still can't run mid battle but one can argue the "Retry" option is pretty much a run away.
FF13 was a gateway game for so many things for me, I adore the world, music, characters etc. Lightning is bae and I love Snow's charisma.
that music brings a tear to my eye, AMAZING soundtrack and what got me back into games
I absolutely love Final Fantasy XIII Trilogy. I never understood people hating ff13. I was like 9 or 10 when I first played the Trilogy, and I loved them. I still love them now, and have played the Trilogy so many times.