How Dissidia Died (Final Fantasy)
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- Today, I'm going to get something off my chest. My years-long love of the Dissidia Final Fantasy series, and its depressing downfall. I swear this is like the only one of these sorts of videos I'll do. This one's personal.
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Music used (in approximate order):
Tomboy [huge side] - Street Fighter III New Generation Original Arrange Album
The Airship - Final Fantasy IV DS OST
Home Sweet Grave - Guilty Gear Isuka OST
Scent of Love - Bayonetta Pachislot OST
Starchaser - Guilty Gear XX Reload (Korean) OST
Iwatodai Dorm - Persona 3 OST
Desert Stage - Marvel vs Capcom 2 OST
Dudley's Theme - Street Fighter III 3rd Strike OST
Actor's Anteroom Remastered - Melty Blood Actress Again Current Code OST
Changing of the Seasons - Persona 3 OST
Subuta 1 - No More Heroes 2 OST
Boundless Network - Megaman Battle Network OST
The Reverse Will - Silent Hill 2 OST
Over - Silent Hill OST
Focus - Quake OST
Boss Battle Theme - Final Fantasy IV OST
At Doom's Gate - Doom OST
Playing with Danger - Team Fortress 2 OST
Tears Of - Silent Hill OST
Theme of Love - Final Fantasy IV OST
Searching for Friends - Final Fantasy VI OST
This is True Love Makin' - Capcom vs SNK 2 OST
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Bit-tech interview-
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Transcript of an interview with Nomura from the 358/2 Ultimania guide book-
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VG247 Interview with director Takeo Kujiraoka and producer Ichiro Hazama-
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012 sales data-
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Automaton interview with Square Enix producer Ichiro Hazama, Takeo Kujiraoka, and director Yosuke Hayashi of Koei Tecmo-
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Road Rage research-
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2018 Shack News interview with Robin Walker and John Cook-
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NT poor sales-
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012 gameplay by KuroJet-
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012 tournament footage uploaded by LXD92-
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Arcade footage by Mad Panic Gaming-
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Magfest Arcade time lapse by kevin zloft-
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Duke Nukem 3D multiplayer footage by HighTreasonLP-
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Square Enix Earnings reports (Q3 2018 cited)-
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I remember a Nomura interview where he talked about designing Noctis’ FF Versus XIII outfit for dlc in this game. He talked about crying a lot while drawing it because it had been so long since he had been able to work on the character. Can’t imagine how he felt brining back that character who meant so much to him just for him to be placed into another dying game from a series he helped to start. Feels bad man 😔
The prices of Dissidia NT was so out of control, but I guess it makes sense from the developers of Dead or Alive.
Yeah, and funny enough, now Dead or Alive is also... Dead after the failure of 6
This game was my childhood. I weeped real tears when I saw Dissidia NT. I could see it was gonna die a mile away. Man, I miss this game
I could see NT being crap the minute I saw it was 3v3
If it's any consolation, we did have the Opera Omnia gacha game before it shutted down. Which is actually one of the best crisis crossover gacha games I've ever played.
So in other words, we don't have Opera Omnia because it doesn't exist anymore. ... Unfortunate.
There are some legends with a revival project though.
@@mythosinfinite6736 If it makes ya feel better, they officially uploaded ALL of the cutscenes so that people don't have to worry about missing the story.
@@SpeedStar1642which is basically what we do for every gacha game that Square shits out, because SE won't admit it's a bad business model.
@@thesecretone6531 I wouldn't say every single one of those gachas was bad (Opera Omnia and Record Keeper especially come to mind). But the output was way more than people could stomach especially moreso in Japan. Though the fact that they even bothered to do this for the unreleased chapters in the global version of Opera Omnia does deserve some degree of merit though. It would've taken translators to do the final leg of the story and I'm glad we didn't have to do that.
As a person who has played every Final Fantasy and really enjoyed the Dissidia games it is a shame they died off without much hype.
Max, i was hyped af because i never had a psp and felt i missed out. Once i got ahold of NT i really tried to enjoy it but the joy never came. If i heard mog say kupo one more time in the menu i wouldve had an autistic breakdown lol
They finally put Ramza in Dissidia, then they put Dissidia in the ground. Tactics fans and Dissidia fans, united in suffering.
Edit: After hearing all the features laid out, it really seems to me that Square wanted to make Dissidia their version of Gundam VS, itself a pretty well put together arena fighter they hold hostage on arcades for years before finally dropping on console once arcade profits drop. Damn shame they never realized they already had a great formula.
Interesting, I've never played the Gundam VS games, but now that you put it like that, I can see it. Square CONSTANTLY bungles projects because they're rabid for as many in-house live service games as possible
Honestly Gundam extreme Vs is fantastic, it's 2v2 so matches are less chaotic but it's actually BUILT around it rather than Frankensteined into it (and all the units have way more to their movesets)
Seriously Square could have completely copied it and it would probably still be going
@@TheCellarTaigenMoon look it up, gunslinger stratos.
that kind of arena fighter genre is absurdly popular on japan but everywhere else it ALWAYS flops.
one that i legitemally loved played was rise of the incarnates it was a bandai game and guess what it shipped with :) yes delay netcode, besides it being laggy and heavy for the time it got released.
but the best part is how every single damn time that genre TRIES to come over seas it flops, and its generally because of the dogshit netcoding.
one i wanted to play was Ninjala, it legitemally looks like dissidia but with splatoon knock offs so more skins and chances to make your char unique but alas same problem, asian developed game with shit asian netcoding for their own country only....
The PSP games rocked. I loved them so much. When the 3 on 3 game came out I instantly picked it up, and then shortly put it down. I did not like it. I was and am so sad.
Duodecim was one of the first games I bought on launch day. That, and Brawl.
There is still a dedicated group holding tournaments for 012 on a discord. Tho its through PC emulation.
If they released an enhanced version of the game on steam, im sure mods will breath new life into the community faster than any arena fighter.
Where may one find said 012 tournaments?
I would start with the Discord community linked in the description
100% check the description. I commented before the end of the video!
Good video to watch while I'm finally getting around to playing Duodecim on the psp for the first time.
Have fun. I remember bringing my psp go to school and my friends brought theirs and they hadn’t seen a go before so they got a little laugh out till they saw me pause and suspend my game 😂. Times were different 😢.
This is like a video from the old youtube of 2009, in the best way possible. Nice to see younger audiencesappreciate the PSP Dissidia games. A shame no third Dissidia game ever happened while the PSP was active, to have all the Duodecim DLC on it along with the fewcharacters that were teased at the time on the game's stickers and were requested by fans(Ace from Agito and Noctis as a preview for Versus XIII back then). Also to give Butz back his Dissidia 1 attacks because they were dearly missed.
Fun fact, you know that a game existed where you could partially customize your moves(not much) and was a fighting game on the arcades at the time? Yeah, funny how that worked. Also, did you know that there was another game where it tried the Gundam Vs Gundam formula first and succeeded? It was called Dragon Ball Zenkai Battle Royale and it basically had better costume customization than Dissidia by far, better fighting and kept the character archetypes of the series, similar to how the PSP games made each character an "archetype" of some fighting game mechanics and the villain was somehow the antithesis of that; compared to NT's slop of bland sludge.
PS : Great taste on favourite fighting games. Rock on.
Great channel. Dissidia was my jam on the PSP. I was hoping the steam version would be similar but oh god...
EXCELLENT video. You knocked it out of the park.
Here's still hoping the PSP games make it to the Ps service. They just added Mr. mosquito, and have the PSP ratchet and clank games. So... Maybe there is hope?
They took everything that was amazing about the psp dissidia. The story/adventure mode, the equipment system, progression and thought" let's just get ride of all of it and make a PvP which had 0 substance. There was nothing rich about NT at all
Thank you so much for making such a great video about a niche subject like Dissidia. It was also carthartic for me to watch your hear complain (and praise the originals) :)
They should make a new Dissidia that's actually good and add 16's characters in I would love to play as Clive fighting against like Sephiroth or someone
I kind of wouldn't want Clive in Dissidia since he comes from a straight up action game, his moveset would at best feel like a pale imitation of him rather than an adaptation into an action format like the others
@@zeroattentiongaming820 you could still give him cool moves he has from the game like The different Eikonic abilities.
And you could also have other FF16 characters given movesets like Joshua, Jill, Cid and maybe even Dion which would be cool
Hell yeah dude, I remember asking my parents to buy dissidia for me when I was a kid. Ironically it was my first FF game, and I bought 012 as well whenever it came out. I remember being so excited for NT, but when the PC port came out it was frankly horrible. So sad to see it being stagnant IP, honestly all it needs is a remaster of the PSP games.
I'll take every dogpile on NT I can get. That analysis really put my anger toward that game into perspective.
(And probably made me hate Team Ninja even more)
Been playing this game(duodecim) since 2012 as a kid I would spam hp attack and didn't really grasp the intricacies of the gameplay. I beated last year and I must say its one of the best games I have ever played. I played dissidia nt on pc and it does not hit the same, like if they made another dissidea just make duodecim 012 with updated graphics and new modes to play
New Dissidia feels like a license to print Gil. Just make it a good real fighting game
tbh I feel like Square would have a lot of difficulty comprehending the idea of "make Duodecim again but with more characters." I have a hunch that they have a really hard time conceptualizing and executing simple money-printer ideas.
It's crazy how other arena fighters don't even get close to the coolness of the PSP Dissidia games. Also I'm a Bartz main in Duodecim ✌️
DS household so NT was my first dissidia just for zenos. very disappointed
What saddens me is NT is the only one I’ve played lol. I never owned a PSP and always thought I would enjoy it based on the videos I saw. Even I immediately knew that 3v3 was a mistake and the online was just garbage. I hope we get a decent port of the originals eventually.
Great and informative video!
am I crazy or am I hearing Iwatodai dorm in the background?
You're insane. Take your meds. And don't look at the music list in the description.
Man, this describes so much what I feel about NT. I wish it was just like a big sequel to 012 with prettier graphics and online play.
Sometines, you shouldn't overthink the task in front of you.
Take Dissidia 012, continue building on it, put it on home consoles. That's it. Thats all everyone wanted.
Say what you will about Omnia Opera, but that game is more of a sequel to Duodecim than NT. A turned based Dissidia-like gatcha game, but at least a fun FF game with a lot more heart than the capitalist void that is NT.
Wow... one day ago video? A very good recommendation from YT... I used to play this game... I still have my recordings from PSP that I planned on uploading just to keep the records of my experiences.. never realized that a community keeps the game alive.. thanks for making me aware of this...
Btw your sentiments are as same as mine though I didn't got a chance to play NT... but when I say some of the gameplay and the changes I told myself "Nah, I'll stick with Duodecim"
I’ve never connected with a video more. NT was the beginning of the end of my support for Square Enix, the company is so lost now I just don’t even care about the new releases anymore. Only thing I came back for were the Pixel Remasters, which were great, but it’s hard to screw up a classic collection.
For what its worth, I liked NT a lot. The game taught me a lot about positional awareness and what to look out for at any given moment even if I wasn't so great at it.
And the 3V3 aspect allowed me to look at Team Building in interesting ways. If characters like Bartz, Ramza, or Kuja went unchecked for too long, their EX skills could buff their main Vanguards like Sephiroth or Garland to absurd levels.
Exdeath offered some interesting counterplay by trading damage for debuffs, or disabling the enemy team's EX skills outright and a shield to block his allies, and characters like Cecil and Onion Knight can swap their roles to fill any gaps their team might be missing.
I get that its not for everyone and these are things you do have to coordinate with other people, which is impossible if you just solo queue and find bots, but the main draw of the gameplay definitely scratched an itch for me when I had friends to play it with. Too bad it didn't last.
Okay, no I had to pause the video for a second because it bothered me so much. While a lot of the praise was justified, the blatant balancing issues in original dissidia games made it so that there are some specific characters that are E-sports viable, and a sleuth of gimmick-wielders that can get a win on a good day. In 012 especially the meta was established so quickly nobody really deviated from the norm. Story in those games also reduced already established characters to a trope or two, and tossed away any possible character growth they might have had, and replaced it with new character growth that none of them will remember.
There is no universe where i can sing the original duodecim praises of balance and story. Everything else though? Fuck yeah it was cool as fuck! There were mechanics, on top of mechanics, on top of mechanics, on top of mechanics, on top of mechanics. And EX Revenge is still a single funniest thing in the entire gaming history ever. A fighting game where you can spend super gauge, to enter bullet time on an enemy's attack, fuck up everything, and still get a hit in. It was hilarious.
And then they took all of the cool stuff from those original games, stage variety, character gimmicks, mechanics, everything, everything and all
And threw it all out, because it had to fit the one-session style of an arcade game. And we dont even talk about the disastrous console and PC launch, where the steam version came with outright malfunctioning matchmaking, ensuring NT was dead on arrival. NT was an assassination. There was no hope where NT would be a good successor, hell there were doubts it would even be a good game. They ripped the already shallow characterisation of originals, and left just empty shells. There is just nothing there. They ripped rich and engaging game mechanics, character mechanics, stage mechanics and every single interesting mobility option for the sake of flashy 3v3, where you cannot even see what is happening half the time. I despise NT for everything it stands for. And i will gladly boot up my PSP to play more 012. For all its faults, the duology is one of a kind, and i refuse to include NT into it, it is an insult to what was before it.
Mateus, Ultimecia, what have they done to you.... Golbez, what have they done to you....
The Golbez NT downgrade was so bad it was kinda hilarious. Even apart from distinctive gameplay, his PSP attacks had such a beautiful kind of "galactic magic" kinda aesthetic to them. His NT brave moveset could've been swapped out with Terra's or Shantotto's and it wouldn't be clear which attack belonged to who. Since NT Golbez lost his power up after getting hit by an 1,000+ damage HP attack (the default brave was 1,000), at the start of the battle the ENTIRE ENEMY TEAM would shift their lock on to him. He was constantly battling Exdeath for lowest usage, who did actually have some interesting under the hood.
Also, the game released without movelists. How the hell does that happen in a fighting game? Movelists had to get patched in after a few months, as well as updated moveset descriptions on the character select screen because they were written in a flowery manner that lowered clarity. Also, some movelists had to get corrections in future patches.
What a damn mess.
This video had me full of nostalgia. Dissidia was my favorite fighting game at that time. When I got a ps5, I bought the NT at a heavy discount, played it for 4 hours, I think 2.5 hours where me just trying to reach someone to hit. I regret every single cent ai spent on it. I would love a remake of the duodecim game, I’d buy instantly
After 5 years, I've just defeated Neo Shinryu in Dissidia NT. The harder thing is how to farm gil and level for shopping skins and music.
KHBBS was remastered and ported several times
FFType0 was remastered
Crisis Core was straight up REMADE
ALL THIS MID SLOP GETS EVERYTHING AND THE GOAT DUODECIM IS STILL STUCK ON THE PSP
The gameplay and story for Opera Omnia were so amazing. It's not fair that it was a gacha, and it's not fair that it was never totally finished, or that what replaced it was the far inferior Ever Crisis. It's unlikely that a fullscale, complete remake will exist in any official capacity, but maybe a fan remake, with the gacha store replaced with ingame currency, and the story finally finished, but that's unlikely.
I'm so so glad to have been recommended this. Dissidia Duodecim was the first I played (technically the only, as I never actually played NT) though only from a single player perspective. But the design is just so interesting that I still feel the gap of it's existence. I could always try to pull out my PSP and play it again, though the PSP thumbstick is probably one of the most physically arduous to use.
Regardless I am glad to see you put all the idiosyncrasies about NT into words that I've never been able to. The lack of a proper story mode basically killed any interest i could have gained, but I often forget it's further worsened by the unlocking system. Not to mention all the gameplay depth that gets lost due to the changes they made, both justifiably to fit the new structure they were attempting, but also just as a consequence of everything combining together like carbonated milk (i.e. Abysmally)
I so deeply wish they could just remaster Duodecim, even as just a single player experience. A bit selfish of me as I completely avoid PVP in games 99% of the time as I'm atrocious at it, and you really emphasized just how worth preserving Dissidia's PVP systems are. They're just so interesting and add a spin to fighting games that is hard to see anywhere else (But god I could never adapt to the chain attack system and hated it xD)
ALso I did play Dissidia Opera Omnia for a while, and while i did enjoy how they handled certain aspects of the story (It honestly wasn't half bad), as well as how they translated the bravery system into a turn-based format, It suffered from the eventual issues every mobile game does. Not as horribly as some i"ve seen (Screams at the power creep of Kingdom Hearts Union Cross) but it still had myriads of issues, like every alternate character costume costing 37$ USD no matter what level of quality they were, E.g. tidus's Dissidia outfit vs his FF10 Original Costume (which are barely distinguishable at a glance and could not possibly justify 37$). But I digress
this was a fantastic video though, I enjoyed every moment of it!
What angers me is when a company kills a fan's favorite game just because they want to force their lazy vision upon us. TL: DR, the original Dissidia and 012 were masterpieces of the PSP library because back then it was rare to see this kind of crossover of a huge franchise like FF turned into a fighting game arena. The game had good mechanics, presentation, and music; on top of that, it respected the essence of an FF game. Dissidia NT took all of this and did the complete opposite, the game was much slower, had boring gameplay mechanics, and the 3 v 3 sometimes was too long to enjoy. Other than that, it had good graphics and an amazing roster of characters, but all that was waster thanks to Square, and they decided to punish US, who didn't even want this game to begin with. This game was AN ARCADE GAME they ported over to consoles and that was it. It's sad.
This game does seem pretty sick. As someone that's mostly been into platform fighters than others kinds, the kind of movement and verticality in this sounds pretty appealing
I want to point out that in terms of the roster, they actually aren't meant to be choosing "villains"; the concept was actually for them to be the character that has the strongest rivalry with the associated protagonist (hence characters like Jecht or later Snow being here). Of course, both of these concepts go out the window for any additional characters from each game.
A small possible glimmer of hope is that Square have been remaking or remastering some of their psp era games. (Eg. Crisis core, tactics ogre). Maybe dissidia could be re'd someday
for me the problem was the 3v3 format and no option for 1v1 fights in ranked. That i head to rely on others. Also the lack of good single player content was sad. The story was mostly cutscenes with kinda cool bosses but nothing else. PSP games give you way more content.
Dissidia was my favorite fighting game ever made (onion knight was my favorite, tidus is my backup)
I loved how in 012 it straight up imported my entire save file from the original
I’m no ff fan, I only ever played 4 and a couple of spinoffs. But dissidia interested me a lot as fighting game. Specifically arena fighter. There’s such a lack/lack of interest of competitively rich and deep arena fighters. I was fond of the use of verticality and viable attack ranges of characters as opposed to other shallow arena fighters and first seeing this series made me wanna watch and understand more of it bad. But since it was on psp, meaning obscure, and NT was dying/dead, finding more about it was kinda hard. sad is an understatement as someone thoroughly interested in this series and watching it fizzle out. I’m glad someone with competitive fighting game knowledge made a video on this so I have a better understanding on the goods and bads of duodecim and NT fighting game wise, along with the main topic of course. Thoroughly enjoyed this video❤
I played hundreds of hours of Dissidia and 012, they were just so good, and being able to record your matches was pretty cool for the time. Kain's arrival in the trailer/opening for 012 is great, and he has the best moment in the game in his face off with Exdeath, "No, I offer yours."
I was lucky as hell to have a big chunk of friends to play dissidia with when I was in college. We’d all play the first and Duoceim like no tomorrow . I mained Cecil, the FF4 roster, Squall, Zidane, and Garland. I still play it from time to time on the vita tv cuz I wanted to play it on my tv🤣
The way I hate NT... I want to have hope that one day we could see another proper Dissidia game because the first 2 were so fun but Square is not exactly known for higher ups having common sense so they likely just saw thay NT failed and don't actually care about why that is.
Great video, btw I think Strangers of Paradise is supposed to be a continuation of Dissidia, maybe something will come from that in the future?
The drag bar line was crazy lmao
We put it all on the line at The Cellar
I remember playing this game while I was on vacation and not being able to put it down!! Thank you for bringing back those wonderful memories and what a great video! 😄
As much i love the Dissidia games "mostly Dissidia 012" NT was very dissapointing and to think that when it first revealed back then kinda hyped me up only to kill it right after.
They took pretty much everything that made the first two games amazing and just got rid of it like the multiple EX Burst and HP/Bravery attacks to just one, no customization when it comes to adding items like swords, helms ect to each characters in order to improve stats, a 3v3 system that nobody asked for and the story or more like the lack of storytelling along with no more story chapter based on their debut game and the management of said story mode was just terrible. The fact that they wanted this to be a E-Sport like game was what really turned so many people off the game among the things i mentioned before and it doesn't surprise me how quickly it died. I would love to really see Dissidia get another try but at the same time i fear that Square Enix will do the same mistake if not worse only to kill the franchise yet again.
Thanks for making the video! The first final fantasy game I ever played was the original Dissida. I didn’t know anything about the characters outside of Cloud and Squall from Kingdom Hearts. The game intrigued me to no end and I played it for hours. It birth my love for Final Fantasy and has since become my fav video game series. When Dissdia Duodeciem came out, I played most of the games and had a way better appreciation for the references and characters.
Thank you for making this video. Dissidia 012 was an absolutely amazing game. Our timeline is honestly so much shittier for having all of that greatness thrown out the window and forgotten by the hacks at square enix today.
I put hundreds of hours into Dissidia and Duodecim. I was hyped for NT until I saw what gameplay looked like. I knew it would fail because the game wasn't aimed at people that enjoyed dissidia. It was aimed at people who wanted a more shallow and watered down version of Dissidia... which was nobody.
I wish they would turn Opera Omnia into a real game, instead of mobile gotcha garbage.
Square’s business decision are tragic. These games were great and it’s different enough from other fighters to stand out. One day I hope it will come back and be done justice.
NT is legit one of less than 5 games ive regretted in my 30+ years of gaming. Its absolutely tragic how bat NT is
012 already had an assist system, turning it into a tag fighter wouldve been such a natural evolution it hurts my soul
Oh man. I spent dozens of hours in Dissidia. And even more in Duodecim, and still probably didn't see half of the unlockables.
Loved them. I heard but things about NT, so decided not to touch it but I had no idea it was this bad. Poor end of fantastic series.
Man, I just want Square to release/port the first two dissidia games on modern gen/steam or get the Crisis Core Reunion treatment. Awesome video. Also SCREW NT!
At 7:15 when my brain registered scent of love I screamed lol Ty for the blessing and great video
Great video! You itemized most of the complaints I myself had with the game almost perfectly. Subscribe earned!
I loved playing them every day on my PSP, with Duodecim being an all time fave.
NT having Zenos but sucking so ass, im sad to see we might never get another Dissidia :/ Imagine Clive in a Dissidia game?? Ahh what a shame this series unites us in sadness over what it has become
Jecht was an absolute unit in this game and easily the most punishing character. His bravery attacks alone are brutal.
Still can't believe they have never done a Dissidia Musou game, the money would be printing itself!
I can't believe that we live in the universe where Power Stone 1 and 2 are getting new ports but not Dissidia...
I still play dissidia to this day (not speaking on nt) and i still have as much fun as i did when I first played it. They made such a great game just to ruin it down the road
I'll never forgive them for what they did to Titus. Gutted his whole kit 😭
youtube just recomended me your channel and this video and man I just fell in love with all of this
Dissidia NT was such a disappointment, I was heartbroken
A bad sequel can f up an entire franchise or a spin off.
I love how the fans and comunities can make old games alive again
Maaaan i really loved the EX burst from the original one
I always just thought that the reason Dissidia died was because the game was always a convoluted mess of annoying and confusing mechanics with an incredibly high entry barrier and that the series just sucks to play.
That was certainly why I remember playing the PSP game for 8 hours and then never coming back.
WRONG!!!!!
They should have called it NTR because nt cheated me out of a good sequel for dissidia
Maybe it will come back. Maybe in 10years but i dont think dissidia is dead.
"this is still my biggest disappointment"... same
Dissidia 012 expansion - 16th order
If Budokai Tenkaichi can make a return, so can Dissidia!
The gacha was awesome......
24:20 ya'know the worst part about this? Bandai's arcade buisness unit already solved this problem of player-based customization and player progression through their Banapassport system. A scannable player ID card with all their progression on it would solve this entirely like how Bandai was able to with their Wangan Midnite series.
They could've had some website where you could make loadouts for all your characters or something and then just swipe your card at the machine. It could've been done, which sucks
Golbez is awesome, i neve understood why i liked his gameplay style until now.
I love Jecht, hes my favorite because i love button timing, and he can be so hard to read, and has such a diverse moveset with hust a few buttons... Its so satisfying to master those attacks.
Squall is pretty good to, i rember him heing a very good close/ mod rnage fighter that was very aggressive and combo heavy.
Edit: further in watching the video, hearing about Team Ninjas reason to make it a 3v3....
I hate team ninja. If they make a crossover game or a game from anything they dont come up with themselves, they fuck it up.
Metroid pther M is the worst metroid game by far. We lost having a true soulslike FF with Strangers or paradise which is kinda cool at first but is really sloppy and floaty with bad telegraghs etc etc. and dissidia NT.... A 3v3, esport wanna be arcade game... The battle director for KHII directed this, it should have been fire... Because of this he wasnt working on KHIIIs combat and now thats a bloated mess of a game... Man why do they keep going to team ninja when they keep failing....
Huh? Bad telegraphs in SoP? That's the first time I'm seeing that complain, lmao.
i loved Dissidia
I don't know what it is about crossovers. I don't care about most of these games but when you put them all together like this it's the coolest thing to me. It's insane that they gave up on Dissidia after one weird, bad release. If they gave it one more shot with some rethinking people would probably go crazy for it again.
A lot of the issue comes down to 1) It needs to get approved, and execs are just dumb sometimes, and 2) They need a team who can pull it off. The originals were handled by a lot of top talent and people who'd worked on Kingdom Hearts' combat. There's just not a ton of teams out there who are available to make something so specific, but I don't think it's impossible
@@TheCellarTaigenMoon Incase Bleach doesn't work there's Granblue Fantasy Versus: Rising for a fighting game that may have RPG elements.
I never expected to see team fortress in a dissidia ff movie. Also I noticed that bleach plays like this and I was telling my friend about that, I was really scared that the new bleach game may be bad but after we saw some gameplay I am really excited for it now
I'm not entiiiirely sold on Bleach RoS yet, I'd like a demo because it could be a situation where the game makes sense when you're actually playing it. Still looking forward to it in my Bleach-loving heart
I've started playing g ffxiv and got hit by nostalgia and wanted to play dissidia again, don't have a psp anymore so I downloaded NT, you can imagine my disappointment.
The emulator experience is pretty good if you don't mind not using original hardware. Also some people don't find the PSP comfortable for fighting games, so you can use different controllers/keyboard
Dissidia on PSP was my first game in the series, and it left me with a burning hatred of Lightning.
She was just rude to everybody for no reason.
Lmao
Hell yeah 🤘
*me, vibing to the video until **16:00*
Oh right, I forgot the title of this video…
Sorry 😔
Square is so fucking obsessed with COOLDOWN, which is the most lazy way to make SKILLS or Abilities.
I never get tired of hearing "kewl"
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You should check out Xenoblade series.
I recently found out Jesus is a character in Xenosaga and that made me want to know wtf those games are about
Hearing you point out how we could've gotten an FF branded MvC style 3v3 Dead or Alive game made me realize just what we could have had. I've unfortunately never managed to click with any of the Dissidia games, so I would definitely prefer a more traditional style fighting game (or even a Smash bros style platform fighter would probably be pretty cool if high speed movement and an emphasis on verticality is something they want to keep with the series), but the dissidia series is beloved by so many that its such a shame NT had to put the nail in the series coffin for so long now. It's probably an old meme at this point that every fan of a property wants to see ArcSys develop a fighting game out of an ip they love, but I'd be very curious to see what an FF-ArcSys fighter would look like. ArcSys probably wouldn't shy away from some crazy wacky story. But even if the gameplay had been 10/10, the sheer amount of visual clutter going on makes it so difficult to parse what is supposed to be happening on screen so much of the time. I cannot even imagine what in-person tournaments would look like if this game had developed a sizeable following. Would every player need to provide a controller and potentially a console as well too lan play?
Also Ninja Team giving squall an incredibly tight timing button input that turns him into one of the highest dps characters in the game just to have the game play with a 3v3 delay based netcode. How could they do this to him! I think one of the final balance patches they released for the game ended up just raising his base damage a good bit higher and dropping his trigger damage increase to way lower so it would make less of a difference, but it's such a sad change to see done to him. At least giving him draw and junctioning as a mechanic was cool addition.
FF-ArcSys = Granblue Versus
@RiderWithTheScarf True, unfortunately I can't stand cooldown mechanics in my video games. I'm a resource management loyalist lol
@@thelemonadestandman Yeah, it's a shame they chose to go for that system; especially when, ironically, a game they barely worked on, DNF Duel, did it better with the resource management. And that was based on a MMO game with cooldowns, even more ironically.
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How did dissidia die? Idk, maybe ask the game where garland listens to Limp Bizkit
That scene was the only thing that could've brought it back tbh
No way, is that real?
Final Fantasy Stranger of Paradise will NOT be forgotten
It's true. Fred durst was in the fight club video game
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What genuinely makes me sad about Dissidia is that NT...was actually a really good game held back by a horrible console port. I know a lot of PSPheads will fight on this hill that it's the worst thing to ever come out from Square Enix and all that but I think we should also remember this originally came out in 2015 and only stopped getting support once arcades started losing profit and phasing out. COVID didn't exactly help either. I remember being so excited to watch the monthly tournament streams that would happen with every content update and I couldn't help but just think "Damn...how come we don't get that kind of love and support?" but unfortunately Square's been known to throw games under the bus if they're not doing FF7 numbers by launch. Also I'm not gonna say the game is perfect by any means but I much prefer its slightly more balanced 3v3 combat compared to Duodecim where the average match consists of dash in, throw an attack out and whiff, dodge an attack because dodging in that game is TOO good and can be easily mashed with no way to punish it whatsoever, rinse and repeat until someone gets a hit.
Dissidia was always overcomplicated for me. I want to get into the games, but something about the mechanics just doesn’t click with me. If it played more like something akin to Gundam EXVS, I wouldn’t have such problems.
I think fans just had a hard time latching into the fighting style/mechanics. it was a 2d fighting game then it'd be better
Reviews often mention the learning curve. I think that once you understand the basics it's actually a pretty intuitive game, it's just that the system and controls are so unorthodox that it seems really intimidating. The good part is that the story mode and RPG mechanics ease you into playing a full character by starting off super basic and gradually adding more, kind of like Street Fighter 6's World Tour mode
I miss that Tifa fighting game staring Tifa and everyone else who isn't Tifa. lol