I think that being a competitively priced shorter crankset is, on it's own, a great way to set this crankset apart from the rest of the market. They should definitely do 160, and 155.
Lots of great products, especially if you can get them to do 155 or 160 cranks! Like someone else said, please work with them on bringing back a front derailleur like the IRD Sub-C too!
That crankset is exactly what I would like for the 2x12 GRX on my Fairlight Faran 2.5. 165mm would work well. Can't wait for it to be available. So appreciate everything you do.
Exactly! I’m thinking Secan, but there aren’t good 12 speed cassette or crank hacks. My New Albion Privateer is set up with Shimano 105 42-26 crankset and 11-42 cassette via Goatlink. Can’t work it out a 2 by 12 speed.
@@jcmuellner The solution I keep coming back to is building up a frame set with GRX 2x11. I may move forward with that, then buy the Soma crankset for when I go to do something mountainous. I’ve set up both GRX-400 and 105 with 11-42 cassettes with GOAT Links that shift well.
Damn. Thought you might have gave up on some of this stuff through the move. Looks like you nailed that hinged bar end. Wishing you the best on bringing all this to fruition, it's gotta feel great seeing your ideas come to life. Hope yall are doing well over there.
Seconded. On a related note, will these cranks work with a road (not gravel) front derailleur? This could be exactly what I'm looking for for my Frankenstein adventure bike.
Following. I was gonna install MTB crankset but then realized the q factor is huge and unnecessary so I'm looking for a lower q factor. Id like to see 180mm in length, but I'm very tall.
When these cranks come out, can you do a start to finish tutorial on how to figure out your crank size and how to figure out if it will work on your bike and how to install in a couple of different setups? Would be AWESOME! Thanks
Me too. Currently looking for a hollowtech-compatable, wide-Q, 42/28ish to replace the skinny 50/34 105 dinnerplate on my gravel bike; which is proving... challenging.
I love that your putting all these ideas and suggestions to the market into practical products that people (and not racing elite) actually want. And silver. Bring silver back!
You've come a long way in just a few years, congratulations. The bar ends and the double chainrings are both great options. I almost never use my 50T ring and having a low geared double like this would be awesome.
Amazaballz! Yes to everything you offered including purple and teal chainrings. 165's for me but agree that 160/155's are needed in the marketplace. Huzzah!
Love that crankset! Super cool more refined version of the old 110/74 triples we've all been using as doubles. I agree 42/26t is a great combo. Even matched with an 11-36t cassette, it's a great range.
That crank has a number of great ideas - the spider interface and spindle choice is smart and I can't suggest anything that would sell better. Seems targeted to gravel 1x crowd, so spider offset that best aligns rings with 142 hub is my assumption. My only feedback would be: A) please don't be like Grant and make ring options that go past 10sp. Do this at Merry Sales and make the rings to be reliably in stock in black and silver. B) Those who have HG cassette can't go much below 11t, meaning a 44/28 ring set would be likely the best range for standard Ultegra 11-34 and normie front derailleur.
Was gifted a 170mm 110 BCD crank set . Looked for so long for a second hand triple 165mm. I think Velo was out on the triple when I checked and $$$.. LOve all these prototypes although the wide range shifter is the most applicable for me
Would be great to have the cranks able to be run on 90's mountain bikes with the spindle length; and conversely a 165mm or shorter crank arm. Love the chainring color idea!
Yes please to this crankset. Would definitely buy in silver with the purple and teal rings. This is what we want and everyone else needs, even if they don’t know it. Of course, we’ll all get shamed for buying these.
Please yes on the shorter crank arm options! I’m having a hard time finding them in stock at 165 even so, anecdotally, I feel like they’re popular 😂 I’m not tall and I am so tired of pedal strike at the worst times. Also want less toe overlap on my Cross Check.
For the bar-in, can that screw be the 1/4-20 thread like a camera mount? I could see this as being not only for extra hand holds but an extra mounting point for things like cameras or selfie sticks. The silver dropper post is beautiful, love it! Crankset is cool! Love more color support too. And replaceable consumable parts just makes sense, thanks for not pinning it together.
Hard pass on having one imperial screw on bike components, IMO. Everything else is either metric or it's own industry standard (like BSA thread). One oddball imperial bolt will just lead to rounded bolt heads or impossible to replace specialty hardware (and probably also cross-threaded parts).
Super work! Excited about the crank the most. Would love a silver one in 160mm (or smaller) for my tiny wife to replace her overgeared 3x with 170mm arms.
Love all of them. I'd love a colorful crank to work with a 2x and a shorter crank arm, like the 165 mm or 160 mm. I have a Jones bar and love the idea of inner bar ends that are adjustable for the angle.
Those cranks are exactly what I have been looking for! What would be a matching front mech for those chain rings? Very few modern ones seem to cover that wide range.
My MTN bikes back in the day were all SunTour XC Pro based so I went Microdrive and life was good. I raced with 110/74s with a low gear of 1:1. When I got to the gear it was time to jump off, shoulder the bike and run. It was just faster. 😅 Your Crank is awesome and it makes perfect sense to provide the option to use 110/74 chainrings. I like it. 👍🏻
After I get some of my other transportation woes abated, I definately want to build my next touring bike around a 2x CUES set up in 160-165 cranks and 650b in 2025. I may have to start our with CUES square taper just to get rolling, but I will keep close to Soma to see what rolls out.
I love the crankset! I love smaller road cranksets. I live in FL, it's really flat. I don't really need big or small gears, my road bike came with a 52/36 and 11-32. I paid attention and realized I was never going higher than the 13t cog in the big ring and never went below the 28t in the small ring so now I run a 44/28 with an 11-23 cassette. I can use all 11 cogs with either chainring and have super small steps between gears.
WOW, So amazing dude! I'm well happy we can get a 110 75 crankset like that and chuffed you've been an ambasador of change to get this to market! Please, please, please can we all push for the cranks to be available down to 155?! I would love to see that and I know many people that would benefit from shorter cranks. Thank you Russ. Legend. Oh, also, I installed my own bar 'ins' and not only were they a pain in the ass taking everything off to get them on, but they scratched my bars while manouvering round the curves of my alt bars. So those lever clamp style bar 'ins' are totally rad.
The bar ends(?) are a fantastic idea. I have similar shaped ones mounted on my VO Seine bars (same shape as VO Crazy bars.) I call mine “In-Seine” bars 😉. But the inclusion of a hinged clamp is 👍.
100% here for that dropper post. I haven't even considered buying a new frame if it can't fit a KS Exaform (30.9 or 31.6) but there are tons of good frames that use 27.2.
Alrite! Those cranks are definitely relevant to my situation; the new commute in South Wales valley's is 800m of climbing each way so dropping to gear inches is of interest: I'll be keeping an eye out for sure :-).
Awesome stuff, not sure if I missed the wish list video or just forgot about it but I'm realizing that's the crankset I bodged together abut had no hope of replacing and was looking for something like the bar-ins last month.
So excited about these cranks. I have the GRX cranks and have been looking to get some lower end gearing. Specialties TA only goes down to 44/28, so I would love to give these a shot. Probably looking toward the 165 length. I have only ridden 175 and 172.5, looking forward to getting something on my bike that makes it more comfortable and efficient!
Love the new crank design and the way you have taken into consideration the increased use of external bottom brackets. And the dropper post looks the business - shades of Eddy Merckx with HIS ‘dropper post’ (a quick release seat pin clamp) flying down the Tourmalet. What wouldn’t he have given for a PLP dropper post!! Cheers!
Hi Russ, kudos to you for persistently and successfully advocating for alt cycling solutions! Especially when it comes to using 2x cranksets (and the front derailleurs :)). This crankset looks really nice - especially the silver version with black chainrings has a good chance of looking great. Personally, I'd prefer a slightly more delicate and aesthetically refined design - I'm in that group of people who think the crankset is the central visual point of any bike and has a huge impact on its appearance. However, function > form. Luckily, all my bikes use the good old 68mm BSA bottom bracket. And there are still tons of beautiful 110/74 square taper cranksets for that, like the TA Carmina or Sugino XD2/Spa Cycles, not to mention used and NOS ones from the past. I totally agree with you that the more options on the market, the better! Thanks!
Those were a limited run if I remember correctly? Also they didn't offer anything shorter than 150mm of travel. I hope they become a regular offering though!
Smaller chainring coupled with smaller cassetts are the way to go, instead of a 30 chainring/ 42 cassette a 24chainring / 36 cassette allows a wider choice of derailleurs without extenders especially with index shifting like exact actuation. Excellent opportunity to get mounting bike gearing in a low q factor set up.
i have the original cletus the non hinged version. Mounted on ritchey kyote bars on my ritchey outback. Theyr're great. Also just ordered a rivendell lugged roadini and the silver cranks are what i want. 165 46x28
I usually ride 165mm cranks, but I also tried riding a 155mm crank (home brewed 1x10 set up) for a while and found it just too odd. At the end of long rides, the muscles that go painful are totally different from what you get from the 165mm cranks. Gearing aside it did feel somehow more difficult on hill climbs.
Absolutely love all of that,hope the spider gets sold separately, Engin make one but Like the look of yours/Soma's better.Going to get those bar-ins as soon they are available, been using old bar ends like that for years. Great job Russ👍
I think that being a competitively priced shorter crankset is, on it's own, a great way to set this crankset apart from the rest of the market. They should definitely do 160, and 155.
Came here to say this! I would definitely buy this is they made a 155. I just bought a Shimano 105 in 160 because that's as short as they go.
Lots of great products, especially if you can get them to do 155 or 160 cranks! Like someone else said, please work with them on bringing back a front derailleur like the IRD Sub-C too!
That crankset design is nicely thought through. Works on old bikes, works on new bikes. Amazing!
and has the potential to work with a larger base of already-owned chainrings if Soma at some point offers a 104/64 spider.
Yes, 155mm cranks. Please. Also: SOMA has been forever out of stock of the IRD Sub-C FD. No plans for a similar FD in the future?
That crankset is exactly what I would like for the 2x12 GRX on my Fairlight Faran 2.5. 165mm would work well. Can't wait for it to be available. So appreciate everything you do.
Exactly! I’m thinking Secan, but there aren’t good 12 speed cassette or crank hacks. My New Albion Privateer is set up with Shimano 105 42-26 crankset and 11-42 cassette via Goatlink. Can’t work it out a 2 by 12 speed.
@@allenreeves1562 In some ways, I should have just gone with a 2x Microshift setup or stuck to Campy 10sp or Shimano 11sp. Lesson learned.
@@jcmuellner The solution I keep coming back to is building up a frame set with GRX 2x11. I may move forward with that, then buy the Soma crankset for when I go to do something mountainous. I’ve set up both GRX-400 and 105 with 11-42 cassettes with GOAT Links that shift well.
Can't wait for the bar ins. Checking Soma Fabrications now.
Thanks Russ. Please keep on tinkering with these great ideas. We love your work.
Damn. Thought you might have gave up on some of this stuff through the move. Looks like you nailed that hinged bar end. Wishing you the best on bringing all this to fruition, it's gotta feel great seeing your ideas come to life. Hope yall are doing well over there.
The "bar friends" are awesome- so glad you have the hinge so I can throw them on any bike without having to rearrange the while cockpit.
Super stoked about the cranks. What's the chainline and q-factor on these?
Seconded. On a related note, will these cranks work with a road (not gravel) front derailleur? This could be exactly what I'm looking for for my Frankenstein adventure bike.
Following. I was gonna install MTB crankset but then realized the q factor is huge and unnecessary so I'm looking for a lower q factor. Id like to see 180mm in length, but I'm very tall.
Very happy to see another crank that will support demand for BSA BBs (albeit external versions)
When these cranks come out, can you do a start to finish tutorial on how to figure out your crank size and how to figure out if it will work on your bike and how to install in a couple of different setups? Would be AWESOME! Thanks
Me too. Currently looking for a hollowtech-compatable, wide-Q, 42/28ish to replace the skinny 50/34 105 dinnerplate on my gravel bike; which is proving... challenging.
Congrats on working on projects like that! And going on detail that is important for usage and repairability.
I love that your putting all these ideas and suggestions to the market into practical products that people (and not racing elite) actually want. And silver. Bring silver back!
Thanks Russ! Great products and thanks to Merry for supporting those of us who are a bit alt.
And big yes on the cranksets!!! You guys know me and know I’ll be all over that purple/teal combo! Make it so.
You've come a long way in just a few years, congratulations. The bar ends and the double chainrings are both great options. I almost never use my 50T ring and having a low geared double like this would be awesome.
That crankset looks great. a 46 x 30 in black with 170 crank length would be spot on for me.
Super stocked with all that !! 👍😁 And yes to 160 and 155 and super yes for purple/team iteration !! ❤
*teal (color illiterate auto correct)
Congrats Russ! To be honest not really excited on the thumbnail seeing the black cranks, now that I watched it super excited for the silver version.
team silver!
Definitely the cranks need to be 160mm!
For real, hugely underserved market trend going even lower to 150-155 range
Love the inner bar ends! They add SO much ergonomic comfort to flat bars.
Wider "Bar-Ins" placement and swap-abilty in both on off ease and extension choice adds up to a hit product. 👍
Amazaballz! Yes to everything you offered including purple and teal chainrings. 165's for me but agree that 160/155's are needed in the marketplace. Huzzah!
Love that crankset! Super cool more refined version of the old 110/74 triples we've all been using as doubles. I agree 42/26t is a great combo. Even matched with an 11-36t cassette, it's a great range.
That crank has a number of great ideas - the spider interface and spindle choice is smart and I can't suggest anything that would sell better. Seems targeted to gravel 1x crowd, so spider offset that best aligns rings with 142 hub is my assumption. My only feedback would be: A) please don't be like Grant and make ring options that go past 10sp. Do this at Merry Sales and make the rings to be reliably in stock in black and silver. B) Those who have HG cassette can't go much below 11t, meaning a 44/28 ring set would be likely the best range for standard Ultegra 11-34 and normie front derailleur.
Was gifted a 170mm 110 BCD crank set . Looked for so long for a second hand triple 165mm. I think Velo was out on the triple when I checked and $$$.. LOve all these prototypes although the wide range shifter is the most applicable for me
Silver hollowtech II style cranks. YES. I roll with 175 but producing 160 and 155 makes soo much sence.
Would be great to have the cranks able to be run on 90's mountain bikes with the spindle length; and conversely a 165mm or shorter crank arm. Love the chainring color idea!
Yes please to this crankset. Would definitely buy in silver with the purple and teal rings. This is what we want and everyone else needs, even if they don’t know it. Of course, we’ll all get shamed for buying these.
The crank is great idea. Congrats!
Please yes on the shorter crank arm options! I’m having a hard time finding them in stock at 165 even so, anecdotally, I feel like they’re popular 😂 I’m not tall and I am so tired of pedal strike at the worst times. Also want less toe overlap on my Cross Check.
For the bar-in, can that screw be the 1/4-20 thread like a camera mount? I could see this as being not only for extra hand holds but an extra mounting point for things like cameras or selfie sticks.
The silver dropper post is beautiful, love it!
Crankset is cool! Love more color support too. And replaceable consumable parts just makes sense, thanks for not pinning it together.
Hard pass on having one imperial screw on bike components, IMO. Everything else is either metric or it's own industry standard (like BSA thread). One oddball imperial bolt will just lead to rounded bolt heads or impossible to replace specialty hardware (and probably also cross-threaded parts).
@@Skooteh1/4-20 is an international standard used with metric, as mentioned on camera mounts.
@@alans1816yeah but bro this is a bicycle not a metric camera
I agree with the 1/4-20 threading they could keep the head metric so no special tools are required too.
Could also make a little extra adapter bar that provides a 1/4-20 thread camera mount.
Super work! Excited about the crank the most. Would love a silver one in 160mm (or smaller) for my tiny wife to replace her overgeared 3x with 170mm arms.
Love the dropper, would be stoked to throw it on my cross check
Love all of them. I'd love a colorful crank to work with a 2x and a shorter crank arm, like the 165 mm or 160 mm. I have a Jones bar and love the idea of inner bar ends that are adjustable for the angle.
Those cranks are exactly what I have been looking for! What would be a matching front mech for those chain rings? Very few modern ones seem to cover that wide range.
Cool stuff. Thanks for pushing for useful non standard things.
My MTN bikes back in the day were all SunTour XC Pro based so I went Microdrive and life was good. I raced with 110/74s with a low gear of 1:1. When I got to the gear it was time to jump off, shoulder the bike and run. It was just faster. 😅
Your Crank is awesome and it makes perfect sense to provide the option to use 110/74 chainrings. I like it. 👍🏻
After I get some of my other transportation woes abated, I definately want to build my next touring bike around a 2x CUES set up in 160-165 cranks and 650b in 2025. I may have to start our with CUES square taper just to get rolling, but I will keep close to Soma to see what rolls out.
I love the crankset! I love smaller road cranksets. I live in FL, it's really flat. I don't really need big or small gears, my road bike came with a 52/36 and 11-32. I paid attention and realized I was never going higher than the 13t cog in the big ring and never went below the 28t in the small ring so now I run a 44/28 with an 11-23 cassette. I can use all 11 cogs with either chainring and have super small steps between gears.
The lowest on 74bcd is 24T. Definitely want to try those bar ins and a purple and teal chainrings.
Nope 22 it is
@ post a link to one
@@alexsch9956
24t is the smallest for 74bcd.
It's great your working with Merry Sales. Jim is great and thinks out of the box.
Purple and teal, yes! And silver for everything else.
WOW, So amazing dude! I'm well happy we can get a 110 75 crankset like that and chuffed you've been an ambasador of change to get this to market! Please, please, please can we all push for the cranks to be available down to 155?! I would love to see that and I know many people that would benefit from shorter cranks. Thank you Russ. Legend. Oh, also, I installed my own bar 'ins' and not only were they a pain in the ass taking everything off to get them on, but they scratched my bars while manouvering round the curves of my alt bars. So those lever clamp style bar 'ins' are totally rad.
Please get the shorter cranks made....signed a guy with 27" inseam with SRAM cranks.
Fantastic, cycling gear for those who like to ride bikes. Cranks look great.
The bar ends(?) are a fantastic idea. I have similar shaped ones mounted on my VO Seine bars (same shape as VO Crazy bars.) I call mine “In-Seine” bars 😉. But the inclusion of a hinged clamp is 👍.
155's would be awesome! I run 150 on my road bikes and the option for gravel would be a great idea!
Love the cranks as you have set up and the Bar-in for attaching whatever. 👍🏼Good job.
100% here for that dropper post. I haven't even considered buying a new frame if it can't fit a KS Exaform (30.9 or 31.6) but there are tons of good frames that use 27.2.
That crank is awesome. My clydesdale butt strips square tapers, so this is a definite win for my touring bike.
Congratulations Russ - the crankset is very exciting 🙂
Looking so forward the silver cranks! And that they go down to 165mm ✨
Knowing Russ, well not personally, I would be very surprised if he didn’t do 165mm at the minimum.
165 is medium sized now, should go lower
Alrite! Those cranks are definitely relevant to my situation; the new commute in South Wales valley's is 800m of climbing each way so dropping to gear inches is of interest: I'll be keeping an eye out for sure :-).
I’ve said this since you went down the inner bar end quest years ago. SQ labs. $45 and you’re done. Granted, no hinge
This Wish List production is fabulous. Most excited about the alt crank. Anodiized color components FTW.
That seat post is the item I’ve been waiting for someone to make
would love if the crank came in a silver option. Maybe even have the spider sold separately. Also 74 bcd lowest gear is a 24.
Awesome stuff, not sure if I missed the wish list video or just forgot about it but I'm realizing that's the crankset I bodged together abut had no hope of replacing and was looking for something like the bar-ins last month.
So excited about these cranks. I have the GRX cranks and have been looking to get some lower end gearing. Specialties TA only goes down to 44/28, so I would love to give these a shot. Probably looking toward the 165 length. I have only ridden 175 and 172.5, looking forward to getting something on my bike that makes it more comfortable and efficient!
The crank foremost is a banger ... please make it affordable as low as possible to get older bikes working again!
Love the new crank design and the way you have taken into consideration the increased use of external bottom brackets. And the dropper post looks the business - shades of Eddy Merckx with HIS ‘dropper post’ (a quick release seat pin clamp) flying down the Tourmalet. What wouldn’t he have given for a PLP dropper post!! Cheers!
I dig the cranks and the bar ends are a great idea! Makes sense to me.
These are all so sick. Well done. ❤
Crankset could be interesting. Im thinking about going lower than 46/30, but not in a hurry. I like the idea that it's possible to change rings on it
Hi Russ, kudos to you for persistently and successfully advocating for alt cycling solutions! Especially when it comes to using 2x cranksets (and the front derailleurs :)). This crankset looks really nice - especially the silver version with black chainrings has a good chance of looking great. Personally, I'd prefer a slightly more delicate and aesthetically refined design - I'm in that group of people who think the crankset is the central visual point of any bike and has a huge impact on its appearance. However, function > form. Luckily, all my bikes use the good old 68mm BSA bottom bracket. And there are still tons of beautiful 110/74 square taper cranksets for that, like the TA Carmina or Sugino XD2/Spa Cycles, not to mention used and NOS ones from the past. I totally agree with you that the more options on the market, the better! Thanks!
3:45 PNW Components released their droppers in silver last month
I would be so down for the purple teal crank color set
Those were a limited run if I remember correctly? Also they didn't offer anything shorter than 150mm of travel. I hope they become a regular offering though!
Great work. Would back all these products in a Kickstarter (if you go down that route). The cranks I want to be able to buy right now!
keen on the bar inners!! i love having bar ends and it might be good to have them be flexible
Crankset!!! Yes... So good.
I would totally buy a 155mm silver crank with purple and teal chainrings!
That crankset looks fantastic - Both practical and attractive. Hopefully affordable, too!
Definitely could go 160 and 155 for crank length, and love the silver options!
Yes! Please!! Silver cranks with black anodized big ring!!
More colors more better! I’d buy cranks with colored chainrings, and that dropper post, and the bar ins😁
The crankset is going to be amazing. Is there a way to tell wether or how they would be shipped to Europe?
all these products look great! I believe engin cycles has a sram compatible 110/74 spider for those interested
Excited to finally hear about this stuff coming out. Have been wondering
This is awesome! Love the new crankset!
Great stuff, all super practical and aesthetically pleasing. The dropper is what all the ‘90s mtb restomods have been waiting for.
Smaller chainring coupled with smaller cassetts are the way to go, instead of a 30 chainring/ 42 cassette a 24chainring / 36 cassette allows a wider choice of derailleurs without extenders especially with index shifting like exact actuation. Excellent opportunity to get mounting bike gearing in a low q factor set up.
I actually jumped up when I you said it would be in silver...
YES, YES, YES MAKE THE COLORS HAPPEN! Would love to see a GOLD 44t chainring 🤩 ✨
I’m running the Gevenalle on my monster gravel bike 1x12 (34 oval and 9-52).
Love Gevenalle
I'd love to be able to read more about pins and ramping on the chainrings, when they come out!
i have the original cletus the non hinged version. Mounted on ritchey kyote bars on my ritchey outback. Theyr're great. Also just ordered a rivendell lugged roadini and the silver cranks are what i want. 165 46x28
Crank that! Love this crank.
Love, love, love it!
I usually ride 165mm cranks, but I also tried riding a 155mm crank (home brewed 1x10 set up) for a while and found it just too odd. At the end of long rides, the muscles that go painful are totally different from what you get from the 165mm cranks. Gearing aside it did feel somehow more difficult on hill climbs.
Would like the color combo mentioned, paired up with silver.
Exciting products, Russ! Looking at that crank, I'd go for a 24/38 for my 11sp cassette.
More front derailleur stuff for me any day, almost any bike. Thx🎉
Brilliant!
Cranks are perfect. WIsh the silver were available last year when I was building my current bike
My Shimano Cues crankset has 165 arms and 46-32 rings that are bolted not riveted… but it’s 4 bolts and not the BCD shown on yours, Russ
Which Cues crank is it?
The alt crank & dropper are brilliant ideas
Yes to short cranks!
Would be very cool if the dropper post was offered in more vintage friendly sizes like 26.8
Would totally buy the purple teal crank set.
Purple and green!
I desperately need this crank, super stoked!
Absolutely love all of that,hope the spider gets sold separately, Engin make one but Like the look of yours/Soma's better.Going to get those bar-ins as soon they are available, been using old bar ends like that for years. Great job Russ👍