I am so glad I watched this because I am renovating my house and wanted to see how those valves work. I'm going back with the old school valves that are there now. Thanks. Great video.
The old Brass Craft full turn angle stops lasted 25-30 years. The stem was solid brass. They remade them not to last as long. If you were to manufacture them again you could make a lot of money.
Tell me that after trying to use a 30 year old multi turn angle stop lol. Rubber plungers that disintegrate the second you breath on them and flood houses. Or galvanized steel water lines that get so caked in rust the water path is the size of a pinhole lol. Some things like water heaters aren’t as good as they used to be, but we’ve come a long way in a lot of categories
@@ryanfrizz Yes. I had that problem with the rubber washer starting to disintegrate in the stop valve. I had to replace a 20- year old faucet cartridge and I could barely wiggle the valve. It couldn't shut off the water. It was a multiturn type. I found black bits in the catch screen of the outlet screen. I remember seeing videos of guys cleaning out the connector of a kitchen faucet to the feed line. They were also finding small black bits in the connector and catch screen. Thinking about it. That was probably bits from a disintegrating rubber washer. When I got the old valve out, I could see that the rubber washer was distorted from the flowing water and some of it had flowed into the faucet and outlet as black bits that I saw. I replaced the valve with a Dahl stop valve. They have a 25 year warranty.
People think 1/4 turn angle stops are made like a regular Brass Craft Ball Valve like we use on a water heater or main water service. You should cut those valves apart and show the difference. Please! Great video
Plumber charge approximately $200 to replace angle valve because it’s holding whole hose pressure if something go wrong can cost $$$ It’s not hard just need carefully slow open water and check if it’s not leaking
@@almcoplumbing8374 I tried to change it, but it's so stuck that the nut turned along with the valve about 30 degrees. But if it turned and it didn't come off, then maybe the PVC pipe that goes to the wall is the one that turned (rotated). Now, I am afraid that the seal of the pipe inside the wall has broken because of the rotation, but I don't know how to check it. Do you have any idea?
I have had the exact opposite experience. I would never use full turn due to the stems leaking and them getting stuck. If you buy a good quarter turn that has a stainless ball and stem they will last for a very long time. I put them in my house 20 years ago and they still work perfectly. I am doing an extensive reno and had to replace a pair and used brasscraft. I sweat them in place being careful not to get them too hot and now they don't shut off due to shoddy materiels.
Hard water messes up all valves. I just went to turn off a multi turn valve on a main supply and it would not move. I had to loosen the packing nut to turn it. It leaked afterward.@@almcoplumbing8374
The old brass stem multiturn stems were great and lasted forever. Even had replaceable gaskets. The new plastic stems FAIL over time due to the chorine in the water. Mine have about 10 years and SNAP OFF when trying to tighten down or open. None are perfect. Where possible I always get brass stems in 1/4 turn. AND make sure the main WATTS type 1/4 turn valves are ez to access just in case or just turn them off and use the smaller valve to limit the water in the lines from coming out...even under no pressure.
No 1/4 turn valves for me. Another reason to avoid them, they can’t be repaired. You can buy a rebuild kit and put new seals in the multi turn valves without removing the valve body. Now you have a new valve and you didn’t have to shorten the pipe stub coming out of the wall to install a new valve. Most homes, you only have enough pipe / tubing to cut it once or twice to install a new valve. Just leave it alone and put new seals / stem in it. I can’t figure out the desire to go to 1/4 turns. It takes 5 seconds longer to close a multi turn valve….who cares?
I am here searching about the “quarter turn angle valve” because it is clogged. Our house is only 6 years old and it already failed! He is right, the quarter turn angle shut off valve is junk!
@@almcoplumbing8374 I went to college in San Diego. I remember looking at a glass of water and I noticed how dirty it looked. I asked other tenants about it and most of them took delivery of bottled water. So that's what I did.
I am so glad I watched this because I am renovating my house and wanted to see how those valves work. I'm going back with the old school valves that are there now. Thanks. Great video.
Thank you, sir, for the demonstration and your honesty☺️
Very Informative! Kudos to you and your channel!
Just bought 20 quarter turn valves from from HD, returned. Went back to Amazon quarter turn BALL VALVE made out of metal. They work great
The old Brass Craft full turn angle stops lasted 25-30 years.
The stem was solid brass.
They remade them not to last as long.
If you were to manufacture them again you could make a lot of money.
I completely agree with you sir👍👍👍 Thank you!
Good demo👍
I kind of believe that anything made today does not have the quality of the products made 30 or 40 years ago.
Tell me that after trying to use a 30 year old multi turn angle stop lol. Rubber plungers that disintegrate the second you breath on them and flood houses.
Or galvanized steel water lines that get so caked in rust the water path is the size of a pinhole lol.
Some things like water heaters aren’t as good as they used to be, but we’ve come a long way in a lot of categories
@@ryanfrizz Yes. I had that problem with the rubber washer starting to disintegrate in the stop valve. I had to replace a 20- year old faucet cartridge and I could barely wiggle the valve. It couldn't shut off the water. It was a multiturn type. I found black bits in the catch screen of the outlet screen. I remember seeing videos of guys cleaning out the connector of a kitchen faucet to the feed line. They were also finding small black bits in the connector and catch screen. Thinking about it. That was probably bits from a disintegrating rubber washer.
When I got the old valve out, I could see that the rubber washer was distorted from the flowing water and some of it had flowed into the faucet and outlet as black bits that I saw. I replaced the valve with a Dahl stop valve. They have a 25 year warranty.
it's a lot grate product right now and the Ball valve is better shut be but water quality in California reale bad and destroy faster than old school
Very helpful! Please do more.
Thanks for your honesty and sharing your great knowledge! I wish you serviced my area, I’d call you right now! 👍👌
San Diego is best place to live. come over 🪂🏄♀🚴
@@almcoplumbing8374 I live in imperial valley, close to San Diego, it’s too expensive to live there,
I know I'm still renting a house. it's impossible to buy a house here.@@vmparra1127
Thank you nice demostration
People think 1/4 turn angle stops are made like a regular Brass Craft Ball Valve like we use on a water heater or main water service.
You should cut those valves apart and show the difference.
Please!
Great video
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@@almcoplumbing8374 Brass craft makes full turn angle stops that have all brass stem. 1/4 turn also
Except you won't find them at Home Depot! @@aslo4812
Thanks for the comparison.
Great work 👏 👍
Thanks for sharing your experience. I've never done any plumbing, but now, I don't have $ for a plumber and I'll try to do the job myself
Plumber charge approximately $200 to replace angle valve because it’s holding whole hose pressure if something go wrong can cost $$$
It’s not hard just need carefully slow open water and check if it’s not leaking
@@almcoplumbing8374 I appreciate your advice. Thanks!
@@almcoplumbing8374 I tried to change it, but it's so stuck that the nut turned along with the valve about 30 degrees. But if it turned and it didn't come off, then maybe the PVC pipe that goes to the wall is the one that turned (rotated). Now, I am afraid that the seal of the pipe inside the wall has broken because of the rotation, but I don't know how to check it. Do you have any idea?
Fabiola…call a plumber ASAP!
Thank you - I'm going with your choice.
Very well done
Interesting how water quality has such a different effect on the valves i have very different experience with all of those
Awesome! Thanks bro!
Brass craft and Eastman are good makers of angle stops
I have had the exact opposite experience. I would never use full turn due to the stems leaking and them getting stuck. If you buy a good quarter turn that has a stainless ball and stem they will last for a very long time. I put them in my house 20 years ago and they still work perfectly. I am doing an extensive reno and had to replace a pair and used brasscraft. I sweat them in place being careful not to get them too hot and now they don't shut off due to shoddy materiels.
Maybe in your area water quality is good.
In San Diego, water quality is so pure
The best stainless still ball has build-up in 3-5 years
Hard water messes up all valves. I just went to turn off a multi turn valve on a main supply and it would not move. I had to loosen the packing nut to turn it. It leaked afterward.@@almcoplumbing8374
The old brass stem multiturn stems were great and lasted forever. Even had replaceable gaskets. The new plastic stems FAIL over time due to the chorine in the water. Mine have about 10 years and SNAP OFF when trying to tighten down or open. None are perfect. Where possible I always get brass stems in 1/4 turn. AND make sure the main WATTS type 1/4 turn valves are ez to access just in case or just turn them off and use the smaller valve to limit the water in the lines from coming out...even under no pressure.
No 1/4 turn valves for me. Another reason to avoid them, they can’t be repaired. You can buy a rebuild kit and put new seals in the multi turn valves without removing the valve body. Now you have a new valve and you didn’t have to shorten the pipe stub coming out of the wall to install a new valve. Most homes, you only have enough pipe / tubing to cut it once or twice to install a new valve. Just leave it alone and put new seals / stem in it.
I can’t figure out the desire to go to 1/4 turns. It takes 5 seconds longer to close a multi turn valve….who cares?
I am here searching about the “quarter turn angle valve” because it is clogged. Our house is only 6 years old and it already failed! He is right, the quarter turn angle shut off valve is junk!
BrassCraft copied Dahl. Anyone who knows the Canadian market knows this. Dahl makes the best supply stops in North America.
in California San Diego water to hard in 3 years after on and off 2-3 times leaking instant
@@almcoplumbing8374 The Dahl valve? Won't shut off or a different kind of leak? Did you tell them?
@@almcoplumbing8374 I went to college in San Diego. I remember looking at a glass of water and I noticed how dirty it looked. I asked other tenants about it and most of them took delivery of bottled water. So that's what I did.
@@almcoplumbing8374 Doesn't everything get ruined in the plumbing system when hard water isn't managed & treated properly?
So they don't make em with metal casings so it won't get scratched shit ready on the inside?
metal to metal will have to be to tight and you not able to turn on or off other way it will be leaking
The real issue is don't buy anything you care about and want to last from Home Depot!
it's just my apinion
everything old school was built better.