How to Plan a Fall Garden
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Growing a fall garden is easy, but you will need to plan it a few weeks before planting and many weeks before the first autumn frost. Understanding your first frost date and how long plants need to grow until harvest are important factors. Gardener Scott discusses how and when to plan a fall garden and when you should plant for fall. (Video #188)
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Cool Season and Warm Season Vegetables:
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General timeline:
12-14 weeks - beans, cucumber, parsnips, rutabaga, squash; start brassicas (cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower, Brussels sprouts, kohlraby) indoors
10-12 weeks - beets, carrots, chard, kale, peas, lettuce, radish, spinach, turnips
8-10 weeks - arugala, pac choi, kale, lettuce, radish, spinach
6-8 weeks - lettuce, radish, spinach
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Focusing on my fall garden is helping me get out of an emotional rutt. I was so focused and happy in Spring planning and planting and was surprised when I felt a 'down' feeling when it was all planted in and just needed mostly watering. I didn't realize how much gardening was helping me cope this year. I'm glad I found something positive and healthy to focus on. Your informative, positive and soothing videos have been great to keep me learning, positive and on track.
Me too i think its the lockdown blues, get right back up and plant your garden, and dont let the covid doom and gloomers get you down.
@@roccoconte2960 definitely a factor this year. It's nice to focus on something else, the sun still comes up, plants are still growing and the world is still turning and in His hands. While I have friends turning to drinking or binge watching tv, I'm glad I found gardening lol
Ditto!!
@@DebRoo11 Agree 100%
I do so agree~~!!!
Oh good! I am not the only one w BOXES of a seed packs!🐸! Great plan of action Gardener Scott! Thanks
Lol. Nope. Don't feel like the Lone Ranger there's lots of us.
I have a ton of seed boxes
@@ZE308AC me too. I have one for each season. And one for in-house growing
@@reneebrown2968 thats awesome
@@reneebrown2968 same here, also have one for medicinal garden and wild edible forest garden.
I’ve been gardening for 4 years and this is the first time I’ve gone into it with this mindset - This year I’ve had a spring garden, now a summer garden, and I’ve got flats of seedlings ready to go for my fall garden! And I’m in Zone 3B! Anything is possible! Thanks again, Scott!
I still have a hundred 25 days till my first Frost you have to love that long growing season except for the heat that kills everything including me almost lol 😂
I have a few pages in my garden journal where I have noted the best times to start different crops in my area. I set alarms on my phone to remind me to actually do it! In fact, I just set my broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower and carrot reminders last night! :D Your seed collection is giant! I have a 4” binder where I keep my seed packets organized in 4-pocket sheet protectors. It’s divided into two man sections: spring/summer and fall. Then my seeds are organized by variety. It makes it very easy to see what I have for each season.
I had not considered a fall garden. Good to know. Learning a lot about this hobby.
I’m starting to plan for my fall garden. I want to make a stir fry garden. So, broccoli, carrots, onions and bok choy.
Thank You for the written general guidline. I am a visual type of person so that helps so much. I had bought some broccoli seeds in spring hoping to have a early spring planting, but did not get to it. Now I can use those seeds for a fall garden.I also have some lettuce seed I am going to try a fall garden this year.Thank You for the great instructions.
Im a new subscriber. After watching lots of gardening channels, i have to say, yours is the best! You are very detailed and easy to understand. You also cover content I've wanted to learn for years! Thank you for that! 😊
Thanks! Welcome to the channel!
Thank you Gardener Scott. I'm a first time gardener and I have learned so much from you. I'm in zone 7, NC. Now I have Fall plans in mind.
Thanks for the layout of a way to plan for a fall garden and the reminder to watch your days to maturity/harvest versus the first potential frost date. Always appreciate the tips and advice from you Gardener Scott. Keep up the great work!
You are the best! I'm a brand new gardener thanks to the 2020 quarantine days, and you have given me the playbook and confidence. Thank you for this gift!
You are a listener & a learner, well done Emil. Happy planting/weeding/watering/ harvesting/ eating, From AUSTRALIA🦘🦘🆗
Thanks for this one mr Scott! I’ve been finding your videos particularly encouraging since my garden was flattened by hail back in June. I’ve implemented quite a number of your recommendations for replanting after a setback(like enormous hail😂) I was actually able to see a few tomato plants survive and those may even see a harvest since they’re cherry types. I’ve even replanted kale/lettuce/and zucchini which I’m very happy to say,are doing far better than I had expected! Keep up the great work,we never miss an episode! 👍
Clyde's garden planner can help a lot with this. It's an easy to use slide rule type planner. It's available all over the web, they have it on Baker Creek for 5 bucks. I have ordered a lot of seeds that should overwinter here in mid tn. Leeks, sprouting broccoli, mizuno, celeraic, kohlrabi, winter heart cabbage, and many others. People also need to be careful planting spinach, it will pull a lot of nitrogen. Then the soil could be greatly depleted before spring planting.
My spring radishes mostly bolted this year grrrrr, but your well laid out plan has me wanting to do a zone 5b/6 fall crop.
I plant quick growing radishes like french breakfast radishes, and that seems to help. I plant them once a week during the growing season about 6 feet worth. That way I have a constant supply.
Thanks for this video. Looking forward to fall garden.
Absolute fantastic video thanks Scott. I live in Australia and have saved info for next years autumn, (fall), reference.
Victoria, Australia this way June, way to go. (fall) these Americans have some funny names for things LOL🆗🦘💚😂
The entire window area is currently devoted to strawberry seedlings, so in order to get things to grow in mid-summer, we heavily overplant a garden bed, then selectively harvest tons of leaves when everything starts growing together. If we get the seed proportions just right, it makes a perfect ecosystem~ Oh, Arugula makes a perfect chop and drop, as it makes a ton of material~
Wonderful information We have to think about what we need to do. Many times our local food auctions have food so cheap it is hard to grow and you get so much for so little cash
You really should publish a book, I would be the first to buy one. Also put a number on each video, it would help your subscribers to make sure they don't miss any. Love your videos. Thanks for all your help.
Thanks! I do put a number in the description of my videos.
Thanks for the video. I was getting a bit burned out. This motivated me to get some broccoli and cauliflower seedlings started indoors and plant more cucs and corn and ...
Well conveyed good information. Thanks so much!
Thank you so much! If I didn’t see this I would have missed my chance at my fall garden that I was greatly looking forward to! I’m new to this so wish me luck!
Good luck. I hope it's a great harvest.
Here in Western New York, the Summer high temps typically range from 80°--90°, and we generally get 1"--2" of rain per week. Once the plants are going well, the garden almost completely takes care of itself. I can't remember the last time I had to water, and have over a hundred unripe tomatoes on the vine now. Some are as big as my fist. It's pretty fantastic. :-D
Thanks Scott, for the reassuring vid. It's my first season growing in Portugal so I think I'll have still some stretch here :)
Good video Scott i dont plant much of a fall garden , i spent most of the fall cleaning up from summer and preparing for next year. i plant mostly tomatoea ,peppers, eggplant stuff that lasts the whole season.
Good video.Since Sweden is going down this year garden wise, unless you have a green house, planning a fall garden seems logical. July with night temperatures around 36 F/3 C. Thanks for the tips about what to sow. Cheers
Thank you so much for the video! I was just trying to put together my fall plan and this was so helpful.
Here in East TN our time for planting fall stuff is turning out just like our spring did - too much rain all at once. I'll have to watch out for fungus etc but the sweet corn and pinto beans I planted last weekend are already taking off nicely.
yikes! j only have 6 weeks til first frost!!! still gonna put a few things in :). so grateful for these vids :)
Great job!
Scott, do you have a video on how you do your Journal for your plantings? Would love to see a video with criteria that one could put into a computer program. Love your channel
I do. Here it is: ruclips.net/video/bLx0VNCaiQg/видео.html
Ave first frost is October 2. I planted radish, beets, spinach last week. I have plastic row covers for 2 of my raised beds so that should stretch my date a little.
I used a good seed starting mixture of my own for some of my warm-sensitive fall crops, and only had 2% even germinate. I can't figure it out and it gets frustrating. Can't wait for the fall crops though, even with that flop.
I’m in Los Angeles, our average first frost is never. It may rain Dec-April but it’s not gonna get that cold.
Excellent info.
You said you're a master gardener I've heard of other master gardeners as well
What are the levels of gardeners and how do you get a title as a gardener?
Most states have a university that offers a master gardener program through Cooperative Extension. Check with your Extension office. It takes many months and is usually offered just once a year.
This year will be my first fall garden. Last year was my first gardening and I wasnt setup to do one because I only did sip buckets. This year I have a couple of beds that can be covered.Both have hoops made for them that I used in early spring. I have been looking into it for about a month.Its going to be simple with radishes, spinach, and lettuce. But that should be a good starting point. I just wonder if its safe to start radishes in Aug, it gets pretty hot in 5b south of Chicago, and I dont want them to bolt.
Might be too hot at the start of August, but by the middle to end you should be able to safely sow them. I also garden in Chicagoland, I think that'll be the best time to sow. I don't think they'll bulb very well if sown much earlier. Those first two weeks of August seem consistently to be the hottest of the summer (at least in my little microclimate)
@@LeafGreenLPs Thanks, I should be able to get two rounds of radishes if I wait for the middle of August. Im starting the lettuce and spinach inside and they should be ready to move out into the garden by then.Nice to hear from someone in the area, at least you know how hot in gets in Aug.
Radishes grow so quickly that you can delay starting them if August is too hot.
I need to organize my seeds like yours. Right now, they're all sitting on my kitchen counter in a plastic bag 😁
Hi I’m loving your videos!! This is my first time gardening and wondering about cover crops. What cover crops do you use? Thanks and have a wonderful day
I most often use hairy vetch, winter rye and buckwheat. I have a video on green manure/cover crops where I discuss more.
Thank you for making videos! I'm a newbie gardener and I will have my first fall garden this year. What are the odds that I watch this today and yesterday was the 15 week mark for me? I need to start planning!
Very informative!! Thanks so much
New subscriber !
Thanks, Dana. Welcome to the channel.
could you do a video on growing celery and celeriac? I am in Southern California and can seed it out later this month.
I may in the future. Both those plants don't do well in my area, but if I can get them to grow I'll definitely do a video.
For how long can one keep packaged seeds if you decide not to plant them the year you buy them? Is it smart to buy ahead , say a couple of years a head of time? You seem to have an a lot of seed packs.
I like this question. I'm wondering the same.
It depends on the plant, but most can last at least three years. I buy what I plan to plant and then use those seeds for a few years.
@@GardenerScott Thanks for replying. guess now 'll plan for Fall 2021. Can't do it this year.
I'll watch this vid & LIKE it in a few minutes G.SCOTT, from Down-Under in AUSSIE-LAND 🆗🦘🍅🍊💚🍉🌶🍋🥑🥕🍓🌽🥦🥦🥦🥦
My Spinach, which I have never grown before seems to be ready to harvest. I will GGLE how to pick it & eat it.
They say it puts lead in your pencil, but being 73 Y/old we don't need that, do we? 😂🤣😂 ...💚 your channel (as always).
When you start inside, do you use lights, or are only concerned with temperature? I've considered just started them inside, but then moving them outside into the shadier part to keep them cooler during the day and for light and a hardening off early, then moving back inside at night for the cooler temps.
Lights are very important when starting indoors. I use lights to get them growing and then harden off.
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Just as I had the amendment question while watching, you answered it. If I get manure from a local horse stable, I’m supposed to let it break down and compost, just as I would any other organic material? Can I just add it into my compost tumbler?
You didn't ask me, I know, but I once added a lot to a friends garden without Composting it & everything grew crazily. Be prepared to keep on top of the weeds, or they will overwhelm everything. Laurie (Down-Under 6.20 p.m. Thursday).
Aging and composting the manure is the best way to reduce potential problems with it. It's a great addition to a tumbler.
What do you think about using scream to keep bugs out oh my leafy green beds and can I help by using shade cloth over top in the hot summer months
I use row fabric material over my leafy greens in fall and it keeps bugs out. Shade cloth will also help cool the plants.
TIP: My lazy way of counting backwards is using Google (typing on my computer or voice on my phone) to find out the date X days or weeks before first frost: "what is 15 weeks before November 11?" or "what is 70 days before November 11?" or "what is 60 days from today?" Using the full grammar of "what is the date..." is optional. :-)
@G.S. Thanks for the great videos. Could you possibly recommend and app or a customizable calendar program that would tell us when our frost dates are? This is going to sound a little silly, but as an indoor container gardener, I'm new to hearing a bunch of this. Saying the first or last frost date of the year seems confusing. It's not our first frost date of the year. That was back in January. I know what you're it correctly the way all gardeners do, but it is a little confusing. Could you please re-phrase it it to the first fall frost or something like that? It's the first frost of the new winter, not of the year.
I included links in the video description for determining your frost dates. I have another video that discusses last frost date and will have one soon about first frost date to explain it.
Where do you buy the straw and what type is it? Wouldn't I have to be concerned about seeds in the straw?
I get it at my local farm and ranch supply store. There are some seeds in it but the seedlings are very easy to pull if they sprout.
I just have a horrible time with germination in the heat. Carrots, beets, lettuce etc....they all seem to have a terrible time germinating in the 80's and 90 degree temperatures of late summer. I hope you have suggestions.
Shading and keeping moist can help.
Think I made a mistake with cauliflower and broccoli I planted in a raised bed towards the beginning of the growing season. Both plants seem to have bolted and even got hit with aphids during this summer heat bearing no veg. Should I give up on them and plant fall plants at this point or will these plants come around to produce something this fall?
They probably won't give a usable harvest after bolting. I would pull them and start fall plants.
I really don't get any space freed up before end of September. Though I am in zone 5 , everything keeps producing until Sept / Oct. ( Global warming ?). I have grown cauliflower, broccoli, mizuna etc in the past but in unplanted parts of the summer beds. I pull out peas by July first week but that trellis is immediately taken by Malabar spinach. This year my summer beds ( 2 large ones) are fully taken by tomatoes, peppers, squashes, egg plants, bush beans etc. Do I make new beds ? I have a huge yard but due to deer, rabbits ( though a few ) I have 2 large beds surrounded by chicken wire fence ( sloppily installed). I walk INSIDE the raised beds in extremely narrow mulched foot path to do garden work which is not fun. When I made the beds there were no deer or rabbit problems and no fence!. Could you advise what I need to do to have a significant fall garden , in terms of bed space? I love the cool weather Leary greens, Asian greens much more than summer veg.
You can try starting some of the seeds in between other plants. Then when you pull or cut the plants in September, the seeds will have already germinated and the seedlings are ready for the 4-6 weeks you have left. You can plan to have beds in the future that are planned for fall crops and choose your plants in spring and early summer accordingly.
I do not plan on planting this fall, but I would like to add stuff to my raised beds so they will be extra ready in the spring. What can I add now, that will benefit me greatly in the spring? Thank You.
Organic matter is a good idea for amending your soil. Compost, aged manure, cut grass, peat, worm castings, and similar material. Over the winter it will begin to break down and help supply the nutrients the plants will need in spring. Mulch with straw, grass, leaves, chips or rough compost and you're on your way.
@@GardenerScott Thanks for the info. I bought 10 bags of that "Black Kow" composted manure, and placed it in the compost bin on top of veggie scraps, leaves and garden clippings... the other side of my bin has this years garden clippings, leaves and failed garden plants... so I am hoping I have enough for the beds once winter gets here to amend them, plus I will have leaves from the trees too. I was thinking of getting some bone meal or calcium/potassium to amend with too.
Hi Scott, its Kaitte Rocky Ford.. I'm going to start some winter growing green in the hoophouse soon, hopefully to winter over with coverings.. how soon should I plant, lettuce, spinach, turnip greens I want to try.. cabbage greens?
Hi, Kaitte. You know how quickly the cold weather hits. I'm starting turnips next week and lettuce and spinach in a few weeks. I put in some cabbage seeds a few days ago. You might consider starting some of the plants soon and then adding more a few weeks later.
Hello # Gardner Scott I Tex a message to but forgot to click on it I think ?? Do they make a cucumber seed that doesn't need male flowers for fruit thanks Gary from AZ
Yes, there are some varieties that are developed for growing in greenhouses. They are parthinocarpic meaning they don't need to be pollinated.
@@GardenerScott thank you @ Gardner scott
he belongs on this old house any tips on seed sites
Thanks. Here's my video on seed catalogs I like: ruclips.net/video/EhgaHexo9Lw/видео.html
After experiencing some issues with some of my summer plants, what should I do between plantings? I've had some fungus in my brassicas and I just discovered celery leaf curl. Should I treat the soil after this season? Can I harvest the celery now and eat it even though it's small and infected with leaf curl?
You may want to give your soil a rest and amend it well. Avoid growing the same types of infected plants in the next few years. Infected plants should be removed to reduce spreading disease.
@@GardenerScott thank you! I can't find anything about eating the celery. I hate to throw it away if it's edible.
Gardener Scott, I am at a loss. Something is eating my ripe tomato's, and I mean eating them almost whole. Even tomatos 2 ft off the ground. My tomatoes are going to be a total loss. I also have tomato's that are 60 ft away from other beds and the same thing is happening. I do not think it is insects or worms, cannot find either. Have treated with insecticides etc. Any ideas of what looks like a bit out of an apple by a person.
It is most likely an animal. Insects usually don't do that. Try covering your plants with bird netting and see if that helps. Also consider harvesting before they are completely ripe.
@@GardenerScott Thank you, I pulled off the eaten tomatos and covered them up will see what happens and get back to. Thanks for taking your time to reply
Show us how to grow and care for cannabis, please? 🥺
It's on my list. Thanks.
Laziness is this gardeners worst regrets....today becomes yesterday. If you don’t have plants ready, you won’t be able to enjoy a fall garden.
I’m a little confused. If my first frost date is 11/26 and my last frost date is 2/22 does that mean I plant my fall crops starting on 8/3? Seems like a fall crop doesn’t have much time before the spring crop🤷♀️
You obviously live in a warmer region. Yes, you can plant in August and harvest through November. You don't need to be concerned that there are just two months of down time in winter, unless you need a bigger break.
Gardener Scott thank you. Got to love Ca weather. ❤️
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Would you consider starting potatoes at this time of year?
I just planted a second crop today here in Ontario Canada 👍 Pretty sure we can squeeze another crop in.
It depends on your growing season and the variety of potato. They often take 3-4 months from planting to harvest. I can't do it in my region.
I planted mine in the late fall last year. They came up about the same time I could have planted in the spring, but the roots would have had more time to develop. Doing that may also prevent them from going rotten waiting for spring. Aside from spinach I also let overwinter. I could say I made a winter garden that was snow covered.