He’s an aggressive player. So long as the winners are up it’s okay to have some unforced errors. He bagelled both Nole and Rafa on hard court with his old 90 frame bc he flattened out the shot (especially with the 90) taking time away from the opponent’s ability to get to the ball. More loop and clearance gives the ball more spin but it also gives it more airtime. Love me the RF forehand.
A lot of these forehand issues you’re talking about are normally cause by not keeping the head pointed towards the contact point throughout the entire shot. I believe this to be the most understated breakdown in every stroke, and this is what allows Federer to take what seems like risky shots, because he keeps his head still throughout the entire shot motion. Most people are too anxious for the result and pull their head up too early, which causes them to actually practice and hit a less efficient stroke for the sake of not “being risky”. I say you absolutely should copy everything about Federer’s forehand and remember to exaggerate keeping the head pointing at the contact point longer after the shot is hit.
You and Nick of Intuitive Tennis are killing me with your suggestions about what to change on Federer's FH.. First of all, let me say that Federer doesn't have just one FH. It is more like six. He has a heavy topspin FH. You seem to be implying he doesn't, just because he sometimes uses the flat FH, as shown in highlight films. The flat FH is not his default FH. That's one of his kill shots. He only uses it in specific situations, for example, on high balls. He also has a windshield wiper, a squash shot, a buggy whip, and a killer knife slice. Your video also tells people not to worry about that hand movement on the downstroke, but the hand movement (which is similar to a partial figure-8) is crucial to at least 6 elements of Federer's FH: racket lag, inside-out stroke, horizontal racket at contact, early engagement of the shoulder muscles, power, and delayed kinetic chain. Furthermore, moving the hand forward prevents a common student mistake which results in a partial loss of racket lag. The very thing you are telling people not to worry about was CRUCIAL to me successfully teaching the Federer FH to 3 juniors, ages 10-12. So don't tell them not to worry about it, tell them HOW to do it. The hand is rotating so the wrist points to the incoming ball. Just before the wrist completes that rotation, use your shoulder muscles to send the hand forward toward the ball. That's it. Not too complicated... Roger uses the racket as a whip. The arm is completely straight and completely relaxed. How fast the whip goes depends on how fast you rotate. My son (one of the juniors) hits the ball a lot harder and faster when he relaxes his arm and lets the racket whip. When he consciously tries to hit a ball hard, he turns his arm into a rod instead of a whip, and that results in LESS power, not more. When he relaxes, he can hit a ball 5' over the net, into the court, and have it hit the far fence 5-8' above the ground. To sum: starting from the unit turn, Roger relaxes his hitting arm as much as possible. The left arm does all the work on the unit turn. After the unit turn, as the racket descends, you can begin the hand rotation which uses a bit of upper arm, and control the fall rate with shoulder muscles. When you get the arm fully straight the downward motion will obviously change and you will supinate your hand, which begins the final part of the hand rotation, and should be when you use your shoulder to start the forward movement of the hand towards the contact point (horizontal shoulder adduction). The arm remains relaxed, you should have great lag, and because you started the kinetic chain with your right shoulder, you will find you naturally get your right shoulder fully into the ball, resulting in a lot of power.
Some is 😅Nonsense. Net clearance bit is wrong . Check Fedsy 's average Net clearance. Similar to other players. Obviously when attacking shorter ball has be be lower eveyone. That is numbers. Also very funny when geezer demonstrates how low Net clearance doesn't work and then disproves that . 😂
Great points. Roger didn't set about to copy anyone else; he developed his swing based on his own mechanics and physical abilities. Perhaps a fourth thing not to copy is how long his eyes seem to stay on the contact point all the way through the follow through. I've watched a lot of footage of top pros, in slow motion, and I don't know another player who does this to the extent that he does. I think for most recreational players, forcing that artificially will distract them from other fundamentals of the swing.
Sorry to say that I disagree with this oppinion. I play tennis for the satifaction of my own. It will take time to have a perfect but we better try the ideal swing. Unless we never get the one. It has been taken for over 3 years still i'm trying to understand his perfect swing mechanism which once i will have sooner or later. Snaping is the key of the swing unless we cannot hit but push the ball only. We all want to hit the ball not push them to avoid loosing point, i guess. At least i do. I play tennis not to push the ball but to hit them solidly. Many one around me said, just push the ball with solid wrist to wind the game. Winning is good but I want to have a better shot than one or two times winning at the moment.
I agree, sometimes people are concentrating too much on the lag motion. Too many videos put a lot of focus on it. Yet, I didn't know I'm doing it until I recorded myself.
Great video! That being said, my 12yr old daughter hits with an “atp-style” forehand (esp her take back, and extended arm at contact) and that’s not by accident. I’ve been working with her on that since she was 9 and, it was good enough to get a nod from Rick Macci after seeing her video. Going to visit his academy this summer so we are pretty excited. Her current coach, just like what you are suggesting , wants her to hit at least 2-3 feet over the net for consistency and as a safety margin. Currently, she’s at about 60% ratio with some balls still going a bit long but, we are working on that. She has been hitting with the blade 98 16x19 at 332gr, 7pt HL but as of Yesterday, we switched to the Burn 18x16 custom spec’d to 9pt HL, 235gr and all of the sudden, balls getting the “shred treatment” pretty well...lol. Giving up a little on the side2side accuracy but over time, she’d be able to compensate.
I can do the ATP forehand. From my experience teaching it, I believe it is better left to tennis academies. Let me explain what the lag really is. Your wrist forearm muscles are very relaxed so that when you start rotating your arm forward the racquet face and much of the throat is still going back and lays your wrist back and also then rebounds forward like a pendulum giving you extra racquet speed. It is not hard to do but hard to do well consistently. If the racquet stops moving before the rotation forward, you will get less rebound speed, and the shot you are expecting to make will be different because your timing was not perfect - you started back too early and then had to wait. If you start back too late you are going to have a problem also. An easier way to do the Roger forehand is to do it with a mid take back. So if you started back too late you still get a lag, arm did not go back as far. If you start back too early your arm goes back pretty far (like Nadal) but you get the lag. Because of timing it is a difficult swing to master. A good example of technique transition is a US Open match between a young Federer and Agassi. Agassi could bench press a bus at that time and Federer was blowing the ball by him 10 feet behind the baseline while in the air and going backwards. If you want to lag, get a 1/2 inch wood dowel from home depot and swing that practicing the very relaxed wrist - which is a high level skill. There is nothing special about it - JUST A RELAXED WRIST, and good timing.
Roger actually has pretty good net clearance. His low racquet drop gives him more topspin than usual given his Eastern forehand grip. The main thing not to copy that creates problems for most players is trying to hit with an extended elbow like Roger or Rafa. You either hit with an extended elbow or a bent elbow and the vast majority of players hit with a bent elbow. Players who naturally hit with a bent elbow create a whole host of problems for themselves trying to hit with an extended elbow. The other problem is copying the low racquet drop when one naturally hits with a bent elbow. It results in an excessively steep low to high swing path.
All right, all right, all right. I’ll climb out of the Maserati, hand you the keys, get into my VW beetle, drive safely to the tennis club and hit according to my restricted abilities. Without Roger Federer, I might I have just taken up tiddlywinks instead of tennis; how can I not want to play like him? Inspiration is the set of wings I fly on, how can you not want to emulate success? I’m not saying I have to have the nuclear codes, but all that stuff he does has got to be right? Sure his risky, creative ad hoc and ballsy approach costs him points, but has also lead him to magnificence. I enjoy your videos, have learned a lot from them and I will slightly begrudgingly, like a kid having his toy taken away, be taking your advice on this one and see if I can make the world a better place.
This was actually a very good video, and it needs to be heard by the VAST majority of weak-end worriers out there. I swear there are more people who'd rather LOOK like Roger than win a single point. For real. And as much as I agree with your DON'TS, I really liked your DOs, i.e. be relaxed at contact, measure your shot and MAKE SOLID CONTACT. Good job!
The problem is not what Roger is doing that you shouldn't copy, it's people trying to copy what cannot be taught. The lag for example comes from years of experience hitting forehands, you can't break that down step by step and incorporate it, it's non linier, it's a natural side effect of Rogers biology and being totally at one with your racquet. Roger like all great players has nuances to his strokes that are dictated by their years of experience and biology, and while you can break what they do down into parts, it doesn't work like that when trying to teach or copy it, Rogers forehand is HIS interpretation of the fundamentals, that hes arrived at by hitting the ball from so many variables and situations that it's become one fluid motion, his racquet is an extention of his arm AND his soul, you can't teach that. What you can teach and strive for amongst fundamental things is his grace, his footwork when disguising the forehand, being more relaxed. The problem isn't with Rogers technique, it's people trying to copy something that can't be taught.
Pete, your first shots were 3 feet over the net. That seems like a good compromise to me. For me it's harder to hit 6-10 feet over the net with any kind of control.
So he is saying copy the mechanics but not his tactical game. I don´t agree. You say fed plays with little margin, that is not true. Roger used to play with more margin, now he is old and he MUST attack. Everyone is getting older, lifting the ball up is for physical players. If you play recreational tennis and base your game on fitness you can hurt yourself. For me: attack.
Agree with you. Rafa and Novak are probably the only freak tennis athletes. Other players with similar style and age are either retired or injury prone already. As a recreational club player, pick a style that suit your physical health and have FUN with it.
I think the only things you should have included in this video is not going too big and then not worry about the wrist lag as much when you are playing a match. If you are practicing you should concentrate on form and making things better wether you are trying to look like Federer or not. You didn’t really explain anything that Roger does different from other pros that people also obsess to make their strokes look like. And the see ball hit ball thing is a joke. I mean if you are trying to stay at 3.0 50 and over doubles sure that works. But if you are trying to improve that doesn’t cut it.
Almost everything he said in that video is absurd. By saying "almost" i just wanna be polite. Even his imitations of RF's fh been completely wrong and technically and by words.
Помимо очень душного анлийского которого долго слушать не возможно, сей персонаж являет и своё абсолютное непонимание техники Federer forehand. Лучше бы он отобразил - как точно можно повторить FF через ощущения и реперные точки, а потом - ПОЧЕМУ некоторым это будет вредно. Дизлайк.
You are a copy cat! Intuitive just discussed this topic and here you copied the topic with little modification. Most importantly, it’s not don’t do this and that, it’s evaluating oneself skill level before attempt to mimic pros. The earliest documented roger’s forhand move is actually by tod Reid and Timmy hass in bolleterri killer forhand video. The player use this type stroke was traced to tommy hass and safi in 2000s. Roger changed his swing from more hass alike to satin alike at credit was never been give. To pro actually started it...just like Andy rodick’s windshield forhand... now used by many American pros. Andy was never been given credit. The stroke itself has nothing wrong and it’s technically correct. It’s one’s ability to carry that in question. On top of that, there is difference of details one can observe from video to carry it out with less deviation. We always think we thought everything and understand. But the fact we are not correct most of the time and some information is always missing. Naked eye observe better because we still copy things we don’t realize. Enough said, it’s not we shouldn’t copy a correct technic, it’s if we really know details of a correct technic and has the ability to carry it out . Can a high school student do college math? Maybe at some percentage but must make lots errors. Another thing we need to look at is training is a stage or step change. Roger himself has evolved his stroke over 6 years to end at current form. He didn’t change from a to b over night. So it would be stupid to copy his move and think it will do it. If we want to copy, we need to copy his steps too. This video missed most important aspect I mentioned hence this video has no juice.
Forget copying Roger, I'm copying that guy at 1:06! I mean, are you kidding me?! Those are some serious major-league moves. If Michael Jackson and MC Hammer had a love child (Wait, did they?)
He’s an aggressive player. So long as the winners are up it’s okay to have some unforced errors. He bagelled both Nole and Rafa on hard court with his old 90 frame bc he flattened out the shot (especially with the 90) taking time away from the opponent’s ability to get to the ball. More loop and clearance gives the ball more spin but it also gives it more airtime. Love me the RF forehand.
A lot of these forehand issues you’re talking about are normally cause by not keeping the head pointed towards the contact point throughout the entire shot. I believe this to be the most understated breakdown in every stroke, and this is what allows Federer to take what seems like risky shots, because he keeps his head still throughout the entire shot motion. Most people are too anxious for the result and pull their head up too early, which causes them to actually practice and hit a less efficient stroke for the sake of not “being risky”. I say you absolutely should copy everything about Federer’s forehand and remember to exaggerate keeping the head pointing at the contact point longer after the shot is hit.
You and Nick of Intuitive Tennis are killing me with your suggestions about what to change on Federer's FH..
First of all, let me say that Federer doesn't have just one FH. It is more like six. He has a heavy topspin FH. You seem to be implying he doesn't, just because he sometimes uses the flat FH, as shown in highlight films. The flat FH is not his default FH. That's one of his kill shots. He only uses it in specific situations, for example, on high balls. He also has a windshield wiper, a squash shot, a buggy whip, and a killer knife slice.
Your video also tells people not to worry about that hand movement on the downstroke, but the hand movement (which is similar to a partial figure-8) is crucial to at least 6 elements of Federer's FH: racket lag, inside-out stroke, horizontal racket at contact, early engagement of the shoulder muscles, power, and delayed kinetic chain. Furthermore, moving the hand forward prevents a common student mistake which results in a partial loss of racket lag. The very thing you are telling people not to worry about was CRUCIAL to me successfully teaching the Federer FH to 3 juniors, ages 10-12. So don't tell them not to worry about it, tell them HOW to do it. The hand is rotating so the wrist points to the incoming ball. Just before the wrist completes that rotation, use your shoulder muscles to send the hand forward toward the ball. That's it. Not too complicated...
Roger uses the racket as a whip. The arm is completely straight and completely relaxed. How fast the whip goes depends on how fast you rotate. My son (one of the juniors) hits the ball a lot harder and faster when he relaxes his arm and lets the racket whip. When he consciously tries to hit a ball hard, he turns his arm into a rod instead of a whip, and that results in LESS power, not more. When he relaxes, he can hit a ball 5' over the net, into the court, and have it hit the far fence 5-8' above the ground.
To sum: starting from the unit turn, Roger relaxes his hitting arm as much as possible. The left arm does all the work on the unit turn. After the unit turn, as the racket descends, you can begin the hand rotation which uses a bit of upper arm, and control the fall rate with shoulder muscles. When you get the arm fully straight the downward motion will obviously change and you will supinate your hand, which begins the final part of the hand rotation, and should be when you use your shoulder to start the forward movement of the hand towards the contact point (horizontal shoulder adduction). The arm remains relaxed, you should have great lag, and because you started the kinetic chain with your right shoulder, you will find you naturally get your right shoulder fully into the ball, resulting in a lot of power.
Awesome explanation!!!
Thank you coach!! Very very well explained and I can't agree more with you the type of shots we should not try to create. Thank you again
Excellent video for anybody. You covered what rec players need to big rock
Some is 😅Nonsense. Net clearance bit is wrong .
Check Fedsy 's average Net clearance.
Similar to other players.
Obviously when attacking shorter ball has be be lower eveyone.
That is numbers.
Also very funny when geezer demonstrates how low Net clearance doesn't work and then disproves that . 😂
Great points. Roger didn't set about to copy anyone else; he developed his swing based on his own mechanics and physical abilities. Perhaps a fourth thing not to copy is how long his eyes seem to stay on the contact point all the way through the follow through. I've watched a lot of footage of top pros, in slow motion, and I don't know another player who does this to the extent that he does. I think for most recreational players, forcing that artificially will distract them from other fundamentals of the swing.
Sorry to say that I disagree with this oppinion. I play tennis for the satifaction of my own. It will take time to have a perfect but we better try the ideal swing. Unless we never get the one. It has been taken for over 3 years still i'm trying to understand his perfect swing mechanism which once i will have sooner or later.
Snaping is the key of the swing unless we cannot hit but push the ball only.
We all want to hit the ball not push them to avoid loosing point, i guess.
At least i do.
I play tennis not to push the ball but to hit them solidly.
Many one around me said, just push the ball with solid wrist to wind the game. Winning is good but I want to have a better shot than one or two times winning at the moment.
I agree, sometimes people are concentrating too much on the lag motion. Too many videos put a lot of focus on it. Yet, I didn't know I'm doing it until I recorded myself.
Great video! That being said, my 12yr old daughter hits with an “atp-style” forehand (esp her take back, and extended arm at contact) and that’s not by accident. I’ve been working with her on that since she was 9 and, it was good enough to get a nod from Rick Macci after seeing her video. Going to visit his academy this summer so we are pretty excited. Her current coach, just like what you are suggesting , wants her to hit at least 2-3 feet over the net for consistency and as a safety margin. Currently, she’s at about 60% ratio with some balls still going a bit long but, we are working on that. She has been hitting with the blade 98 16x19 at 332gr, 7pt HL but as of Yesterday, we switched to the Burn 18x16 custom spec’d to 9pt HL, 235gr and all of the sudden, balls getting the “shred treatment” pretty well...lol. Giving up a little on the side2side accuracy but over time, she’d be able to compensate.
I can do the ATP forehand. From my experience teaching it, I believe it is better left to tennis academies. Let me explain what the lag really is. Your wrist forearm muscles are very relaxed so that when you start rotating your arm forward the racquet face and much of the throat is still going back and lays your wrist back and also then rebounds forward like a pendulum giving you extra racquet speed. It is not hard to do but hard to do well consistently. If the racquet stops moving before the rotation forward, you will get less rebound speed, and the shot you are expecting to make will be different because your timing was not perfect - you started back too early and then had to wait. If you start back too late you are going to have a problem also. An easier way to do the Roger forehand is to do it with a mid take back. So if you started back too late you still get a lag, arm did not go back as far. If you start back too early your arm goes back pretty far (like Nadal) but you get the lag. Because of timing it is a difficult swing to master. A good example of technique transition is a US Open match between a young Federer and Agassi. Agassi could bench press a bus at that time and Federer was blowing the ball by him 10 feet behind the baseline while in the air and going backwards. If you want to lag, get a 1/2 inch wood dowel from home depot and swing that practicing the very relaxed wrist - which is a high level skill. There is nothing special about it - JUST A RELAXED WRIST, and good timing.
Say it to Dimitrov
Roger actually has pretty good net clearance. His low racquet drop gives him more topspin than usual given his Eastern forehand grip. The main thing not to copy that creates problems for most players is trying to hit with an extended elbow like Roger or Rafa. You either hit with an extended elbow or a bent elbow and the vast majority of players hit with a bent elbow. Players who naturally hit with a bent elbow create a whole host of problems for themselves trying to hit with an extended elbow. The other problem is copying the low racquet drop when one naturally hits with a bent elbow. It results in an excessively steep low to high swing path.
All right, all right, all right. I’ll climb out of the Maserati, hand you the keys, get into my VW beetle, drive safely to the tennis club and hit according to my restricted abilities. Without Roger Federer, I might I have just taken up tiddlywinks instead of tennis; how can I not want to play like him? Inspiration is the set of wings I fly on, how can you not want to emulate success? I’m not saying I have to have the nuclear codes, but all that stuff he does has got to be right? Sure his risky, creative ad hoc and ballsy approach costs him points, but has also lead him to magnificence. I enjoy your videos, have learned a lot from them and I will slightly begrudgingly, like a kid having his toy taken away, be taking your advice on this one and see if I can make the world a better place.
Average net clearance of Big4 in 2013:
Nadal: 90 inches
Federer: 70 inches
Djokovic: 63 inches
Murray: 59 inches
Very nice video. Roger and Carlos make me back to play tennis after 15 years away from courts. 😂❤
At least someone speaks out something that makes sense. Thanks for that.
Very interesting, especially the "lag and snap" section! Great advice. Thanks Peter!
This was actually a very good video, and it needs to be heard by the VAST majority of weak-end worriers out there. I swear there are more people who'd rather LOOK like Roger than win a single point. For real. And as much as I agree with your DON'TS, I really liked your DOs, i.e. be relaxed at contact, measure your shot and MAKE SOLID CONTACT. Good job!
thanks
Good advice. I seem to have a high percentage of errors where I hit a forehand and miss getting them over the net by the smallest of margins
The problem is not what Roger is doing that you shouldn't copy, it's people trying to copy what cannot be taught. The lag for example comes from years of experience hitting forehands, you can't break that down step by step and incorporate it, it's non linier, it's a natural side effect of Rogers biology and being totally at one with your racquet. Roger like all great players has nuances to his strokes that are dictated by their years of experience and biology, and while you can break what they do down into parts, it doesn't work like that when trying to teach or copy it, Rogers forehand is HIS interpretation of the fundamentals, that hes arrived at by hitting the ball from so many variables and situations that it's become one fluid motion, his racquet is an extention of his arm AND his soul, you can't teach that. What you can teach and strive for amongst fundamental things is his grace, his footwork when disguising the forehand, being more relaxed. The problem isn't with Rogers technique, it's people trying to copy something that can't be taught.
Like always, very useful. Keep it up!
Pete, your first shots were 3 feet over the net. That seems like a good compromise to me. For me it's harder to hit 6-10 feet over the net with any kind of control.
Good video.
okay youre right, ill just copy dimitrovs forehand
Excellent advice!
Love it: see ball; hit ball. As a rec player why am I trying to do anything more?
So he is saying copy the mechanics but not his tactical game. I don´t agree. You say fed plays with little margin, that is not true. Roger used to play with more margin, now he is old and he MUST attack.
Everyone is getting older, lifting the ball up is for physical players.
If you play recreational tennis and base your game on fitness you can hurt yourself.
For me: attack.
Agree with you. Rafa and Novak are probably the only freak tennis athletes. Other players with similar style and age are either retired or injury prone already. As a recreational club player, pick a style that suit your physical health and have FUN with it.
I could imagine a Roger Federer Ballet. Called “ Federer.
Pete Sampras because of his great serve and because he shares your name.
Wow that is nice of you to say
Yes! Pete Sampras has an incredible serve, and such a dynamic set-up even before he tosses up the ball.
I think the only things you should have included in this video is not going too big and then not worry about the wrist lag as much when you are playing a match. If you are practicing you should concentrate on form and making things better wether you are trying to look like Federer or not. You didn’t really explain anything that Roger does different from other pros that people also obsess to make their strokes look like. And the see ball hit ball thing is a joke. I mean if you are trying to stay at 3.0 50 and over doubles sure that works. But if you are trying to improve that doesn’t cut it.
Almost everything he said in that video is absurd. By saying "almost" i just wanna be polite. Even his imitations of RF's fh been completely wrong and technically and by words.
Absolutely spot on
lag and snap,,,,, read Tennis for the Future Vic Braden
my timing with my lag is terrible i need more lag!
So complicated. Just coil and then recoil. Check out Powerflail...
1:05 Who is that? Did he get disorientated or just trolling his opponent?
7dayforehandchallenge.com
Fev player Djokovic.
Actually the top wta players do not have a long back swing
Compared to the men they do. 100%
Помимо очень душного анлийского которого долго слушать не возможно, сей персонаж являет и своё абсолютное непонимание техники Federer forehand.
Лучше бы он отобразил - как точно можно повторить FF через ощущения и реперные точки, а потом - ПОЧЕМУ некоторым это будет вредно. Дизлайк.
You are a copy cat! Intuitive just discussed this topic and here you copied the topic with little modification.
Most importantly, it’s not don’t do this and that, it’s evaluating oneself skill level before attempt to mimic pros.
The earliest documented roger’s forhand move is actually by tod Reid and Timmy hass in bolleterri killer forhand video.
The player use this type stroke was traced to tommy hass and safi in 2000s. Roger changed his swing from more hass alike to satin alike at credit was never been give. To pro actually started it...just like Andy rodick’s windshield forhand... now used by many American pros. Andy was never been given credit.
The stroke itself has nothing wrong and it’s technically correct. It’s one’s ability to carry that in question. On top of that, there is difference of details one can observe from video to carry it out with less deviation. We always think we thought everything and understand. But the fact we are not correct most of the time and some information is always missing. Naked eye observe better because we still copy things we don’t realize. Enough said, it’s not we shouldn’t copy a correct technic, it’s if we really know details of a correct technic and has the ability to carry it out .
Can a high school student do college math? Maybe at some percentage but must make lots errors. Another thing we need to look at is training is a stage or step change. Roger himself has evolved his stroke over 6 years to end at current form. He didn’t change from a to b over night. So it would be stupid to copy his move and think it will do it. If we want to copy, we need to copy his steps too.
This video missed most important aspect I mentioned hence this video has no juice.
Slow down Swing ?
😂
Dont tell dmitrov to copy feds strokes. Cuz hes the carbon copy
everyOne want to copy Roger !? are you serious ?
I mean i tried to copy Roger when i was young!
RF is very popular, ergo...
Yes, because his forehand has "effortless" power. Its the standard against which all other forehands are measured
i actually prefer nadal's fh
@@yakzivz1104 you're probably somewhat athletic if you do. Considering rafa's forehand takes alota energy
Forget copying Roger, I'm copying that guy at 1:06! I mean, are you kidding me?! Those are some serious major-league moves. If Michael Jackson and MC Hammer had a love child (Wait, did they?)
that is pretty funny
FEDERER
Usea microphone mate, this echo is awful!
Novak hits like a woman.
Men who make those kind of insults usually can't get a woman.
you would know better than anyone
@@61sunnyday I got your mama, does that count?
@@yakzivz1104 not better than anyone, just better than you.