Did Joel Embiid betray his country?
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Joel Embiid is an NBA MVP, 7x All-Star 0x ECF Finalist, and now has an Olympic gold medal to boot, thanks to the efforts of Team USA. But did he spurn his own country in order to go for gold? Find out this time on kipkame11!
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French feeling what african countries feel like when they take african athletes and footballers
Such hypocrites 😂😂
Hypocrites ?
Embiid asked for the french nationality so he could play on the national team, France gave him the nationality, then he refused to play for them and joined a team that was already staked for an easy gold medal. Who's the hypocrite really ?
@@HerzederHe also has U.S. nationality. French people are just mad they can’t import stars 😂
@@Herzederyou could argue if he had played for France he would’ve got the gold medal so what’s the problem
@@Herzeder found the French guy 🤣🤣
@@DestroyerOff Your argument makes no sense. Like the guy said, Embiid went to the French president himself for the French citizenship with the promise to play for France. France didn't go to Embiid, Embiid went to France. Are you dumb?
the insurance policy is insane
that's really hurting the developing countries
thank you for developing countries and not 3rd w countries.
He doesn’t owe France a damn thing😂 born and raised in Cameroon, spent his adolescence and adult life mostly in the U.S. he doesn’t consider himself to be French why do they feel entitled to his services.
It’s because he legit got the president of French to bypass the rules to get him a citizenship that’s prolly why
Because he for some reason made the French embassy do a whole mess to make him French because he said he’d play there, it’s just an agreement, France did their part
well he isn't by default. definitely not. but because he requested citizenship under the promise to play for them, and was granted it, we are no longer in a default situation. he went out of his way to create an obligation for himself.
the better question is why did he make, and then break that promise? maybe he has a good reason, but that's just strange, he didn't have to do that as far as i know
He owe France a nationality tho, he asked for it explicitely so he could play for France national team
I mean France opened doors for him, they gave him nationality so he could play for them instead of Cameroon.
Team hopping is wack on the national stage too. AFCON nations know all about it lol
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As someone who lives in France, there are two types of reaction among french citizens towards Embiid's decision to play for Team USA :
1) there are selfish people who are mad at the fact that he did not play for France despite getting his passport.
2) there are those (i think that's the majority, it's the just that the first ones make more noise on social media) who are just mad at his lack of tact and his mercenary-like behavior, saying that he should have refused France before getting his passport and should have played for his home country, cameroon instead of taking the easy road with team USA.
But most of us weren't aware of this deal between the FIBA and the NBA and the whole insurance money stuff, i get where he's coming from now.
P.S : for those wondering, we're of course ashamed of what the french basketball federation and president macron tried to do, most of us had the same opinion as Fournier and Tony Parker from the start.
I wonder why the FIBA didn't try to break or renegotiate that insurance policy with the NBA. This is crazy. Even in soccer, in which players have a an actual market value, you don't see deals like that between the football federations and the clubs.
Great video as always!
I think FIBA hasn’t tried to change the deal with the NBA because the NBA is such a dominant force in basketball. So they have more negotiating power with FIBA than any soccer league does with FIFA
most french people really don't care that he got a passport, the people who hate him for that are weirdo
This was great to read for more context, thank you for your perspective and for watching! 🙏🏿
He owes France nothing (colonisers), and Cameroon can’t afford his insurance. He played for his adopted home nation, the nation of his son’s worth, and they won the Olympics in part thanks to his epic showing in the Semis. All I see is a cracking player and an even better man. Viva MVPIID
Viva MVPIID, indeed.
Joel’s a fouling crying free throw merchant the only award he deserves is most tantrums in a series 🤣🤣🤣
He asked for a passport to play for them. France abided by the agreement while he backed off. Nobody likes a person who doesn't keep their word. It's also ironic calling France colonizers when many countries are colonizers in their own way including the USA. All I see is a coward who wanted to play for an easy win. If he really cared about playing for his son he would've declined France. After Noah Lyles gathered the Avengers, Joel Embiid is all of a sudden a family man doing it for his son.
Calling France Colonizers😂 I get but just wait till you hear the story of USA colonization...😂
@@Jordan-u2x U.S. colonizing their “own” land from natives is completely different from colonizing a whole other continent and claiming it as your own for multiple decades
Daaaaaaaaaamn! I wish you had put this out much sooner when all the blabbermouths were getting hundreds of thousands of views off of lying on Joel.
This is the best video on the subject and I'm not even done yet. YOU DID YOUR HOMEWORK!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Was my bad, should’ve had it out sooner. Thank you for your words though!🙌🏿
I can understand the argument made by Pascal Siakam about representing Cameroon, but that's something Pascal had the right to talk about with Embiid... but once Cameroon didn't qualify (because Embiid and Siakam didn't play) Embiid certainly didn't owe France anything
I really dont get he "he doesnt owe France anything", like yes he does, he specifically asked to ("forced his way to" would be more appropriate really) get French nationality so he could play for the national team. France gave him the nationality, then he bailed on them to join the absolute favorite team.
@@Herzeder Seems you didnt understand the video
@@HerzederFrance isn't owed anything
@@HerzederHow many times did France surrender or Quit?
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Nah, as an american. We are all immigrants. Well, im part native lol, but still
Natives still migrated from somewhere else as well...not one homo sapien is from America
Luol Deng has enough money to sponsor the entire national team, but Embiid has less money than Deng? I don`t think so.
Why are you acting like deng invested 75million on the south sudan team? We watched the same video prior to that he played for the Uk right? What is with the selective outrage? Plus Deng prolly earns more I read some articles about his investments in realestate with Melo. I just looked up how much Embiid has earned just from his nba contract. $215,298,426 and he prolly pockets half of it. So 107,649,213. You're telling me he should invest more than 70% of earnings he's made so far in the nba to play for his country? Lol you just want to be mad. Find something else to do it.
@@oreoakalaperoji8314 Okay, maybe I`m just Embiid`s hater, and wasn`t completely right. But he is not the only player from Cameroon in the NBA. Did Embiid try to gather Cameroonian players around him and take responsibility for the national team? He didn`t because he was eager to get a free gold medal. And by the way, Cameroon is not as poor as South Sudan.
Although he represented Great Britain 🇬🇧 in London, his heart was always with South Sudan 🇸🇸
Any French folk on here angry about Embiid for his "mercenary behavior" should realize the hypocrisy in that opinion. France wanted to hire him like a mercenary, so why get angry when he chooses a different client? If you make mercenary deals, expect mercenary behavior.
I think embiid is between a rock and a hard place when it comes to insurance. On the one hand, he doesnt want to bankrupt his home country if he gets injured (which is an incredibly likely possibility). on the other hand, if he tries to get the cost cut, ends up getting horrifically injured, and then doesn't get the full amount... Thats gotta sting. Especially since now his home country expects him to put his earnings into helping the community
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Dude has to play almost 3mil to play for his country… That’s messed up. I think the real problem here is the insurance policy. They are international athletes, not NBA property.
you won't put an insurance on a 200-300 million dollars contract?
75 million if he gets hurt while playing.
I actually wonder if the same thing happens for soccer cause African soccer players like Mo salah usually leave is club during important moments of the season to rep Egypt in the African cup of nations.
@@oreoakalaperoji8314 there’s nothing like that in soccer he just goes if he gets injured nobody pays nothing
the nba salary is guaranteed. if the player doesn't mind waiving his salary in case he gets hurt during international play, this wouldn't be an issue, but the players aren't willing to do that, so why shouldn't the nba/team have some rights here?
Before watching video: Embiid is the problem
After watching: NBA is the problem
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Thanks !! Will keep going
France is NOT "his" country. He is from Cameroon and has lived in the US for 16 years. France GAVE him the passport because Embid thought he wanted to play for a European team. He changed his mind. That does not make him a traitor. France tried to buy an NBA player to play for France...Embid agreed and then went back on his word. Makes him untrustworthy but not a traitor. Neither France nor Embid look good in this...but France is getting ZERO flack for just giving away a passport
Embiid makes American money & pays taxes ..i see no issues with his decision
So he made France skip protocol to acquire French citizenship with the promise of playing for France in the Olympics for the lols?
Great video man!
Love the mix between hoops, history et francais aussi lol!
Appreciate it! I try haha
5:23 bruh I ain’t seen this meme inna min. 😂
“why did rudy gobert want to suck it?” wild 😭😭
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Love the video❤
I wonder how sports would be different in a timeline where embiid went on to play volleyball instead lol
4:13 the only valuable question
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regardless of what anyone says, he has a gold medal 🤷🏽♂
He won a gold medal being a bus rider. France was in the final, and they were not THAT far from coming on top, now imagine that French team with Embiid in it.
@@Herzederman scored 19 points against Nikola Jokic and he is a bus rider alright then tell me that Tyrese haliburton and Joel embiid are on the same levels
@@HerzederI can't believe you're still asking this question after watching this video. They didn't want him. It's one thing when fans don't want you but it's another when guys supposed to be your teammates don't want you. The guy whose career ended after the vince carter dunk was talking shit when it was announced he would play for france something about "just remember you'll never be french" and when he chose not to play he also gets mad talking about how disrespectful he is. Damned if you damned if you don't. Yall need to move on. Crying weeks after the olympics ended is ridiculous.
Dude can't even make it to a Conference finals so he decided to chase medals.
Your brain is too fried if that's what you got from this video. You're too far gone.
Ok ok but South Sudan and more importantly Luol Deng can get all those players in national team ? players born in Canada,Australia,Usa that have Sudanese decent they all gathered to play for South Sudan who is even poorer country then Cameroon
He’s not from “French Africa”, much like Nigeria isn’t in “English Africa”. Cameroon isn’t a “third world country”, it’s a developing nation. Words are important, so use them carefully. You are a channel providing factual information, so the details truly matter!
Okay, French SPEAKING Africa 🙄
No need to pander, it’s obvious he means francophone Africa or “Françafrique”. Your alternatives like “developing nation” still has the same meaning but are just euphemisms
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Thank you !🙏🏿
I like the nuance here; of course there are all the memes and such, but seeing the actual reason why is fascinating
I'm OK with Embiid not being on Cameroon, because that might have taken away the South Sudan story, which was the highlight of Olympic basketball.
Lol that guy was really comparing Gorgui Dieng to Embiid? Just for us to find out that Cameroon couldn't even afford Siakam's insurance is too funny. I don't even listen to what French have to say. They treat their black soccer players well when they perform well. When they don't they tell them to go back to Africa wven though they were born in France.
Traitor? Maybe not.
Coward? Absolutely.
Embiid locked in against the best player in the world to help save the Olympic run I ain’t ever forgetting that 🇺🇸
So uhhh, I have a piece of constructive criticism to make but I'm a little afraid since its implicitly tied to race, specifically one I am not a member of.....
I think you have noticed that your skin is very dark. If you didnt, I'm sorry that you had to find out like this. However the reason that is relevant is that such as in the opening, the contrast of your skin against the light is somewhat distracting. No it doesnt affect the content, I still think you're wonderful and going places, and I feel that legitimately, not saying it as idle flattery. Its not a mark of a lack of quality or saying anything bad about you as a presenter or your media. But anything that makes the viewer stop and focus on something that isn't your words is a net negative for the video. With the work you put in on these, that would be a damn shame.
I hope that was effective and diplomatic. I'm just leaving you comments and giving feedback because I really think you're on the cusp of breaking out big.
TL;DR- maybe play around with your light sources to get more even/less reflective lighting? Looking into the ways movie sets do it of course is the best way.
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Great video
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People in the comments say that he doesn't owe anything to France. Really ? He begged to get the French nationality and got it, because he said black on white on paper that he wished to play only for the french basketball. His words. French nationality is not something easy to get. I've been married ten years to a foreigner, she's never been able to get the french nationality. One of my best friends is from Ivory Coast, he's married with a french person, he has a french kid with her, and he still didn't get the french nationality yet. So yeah, when you get an exception to the rule, because you give your word, you owe something. Unless you're full of sh*t.
Likewise, the UK or Britain is a developed nation and an advanced economy.
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Nahh not on that level yet 🤣
Foutre la merde à l'international, ça c'est ma France ça
Great video btw!
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Also, your French sounded convincing asl
Thank you bro! That really means something coming from the dude making 4 hr docs 🤣
Funny thing too is I never took French
Amazing video but respect gorgui dieng
Joel Embiid is an American what are you talking about
Why do people give a shit what Embiid does but no one says shit about Duplantis being born in America.
Here's a secret: no one gives a shit about an American playing for another country if they have a legit connection. Everyone cares about someone who wasn't born in America CHOOSING to play for the world's most dominant sporting nation lol
Countries*
No he didn’t
which one
Couple of things:
you usually are on point but ...
First you seem to be like someone with African origin as I heard some French therefore you know the "realities" of Africa.
My opinion: he took the best decision to play for the States.
Playing for France when you are french ex- colonies while you know the NBA system and having a better chance to win with USA…
As someone who also left Africa, it is not sustainable for countries (as you stated: insurance... not enough great players, all system is weak).
The best way for some of us to help with the development of Africa is work and play for Western Countries.
I have a request: please stop using the term 3rd World Counties. It is REALLY condescending.
Good video though.
Thank you for your comment. My African family’s always said 3rd world so I didn’t know of its tone. Will remedy in the future 🙏🏿
The same thing happened to Jose Alvarado, his parents are from Puertorico and plenty of hispanics live in the bronx anyways.
This entire dilemma needs to stop.
Yes he did. Also first.
Cap + Rudy is his son
If you mean Cameroon, sure.
you the goat
Embiid was really odd on this USA team. Bruh tried to start a narrative that if they lost it's LeBron fault. I'm not a LeBron fan, but you don't start dissension amongst the ranks. He should've committed to France. He spent 16 years outside the U.S and 16 years in the U.S.
🤦 He's never even lived in France. This take is so freaking shit.
You don't know him buddy. It's just your feelings talking
@@Cooe. He didnt watch the video, let alone do any research
@@Cooe. He begged France for a passport, you take is also dogshit.
w vid gang
Could have been a Fwench or Cameroonian hero. Instead, he played terribly for a team that didn’t need him so he could finally win something without being clutch.
Joel is a serial choker and made of glass and paper, joining Team USA and taking the easy route to a gold medal is understandable considering he'll never win anything while he's in the NBA.
A loser providing his opinion cause we need it. Love it. How about you tell me what the weather is like in your area.. that is if you can even do that. Tell me about your weather goofy.
Guess what he won a medal you can’t say anything 😂😂😂😂
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