When I saw the thumbnail, I thought you were doing a video on old fashioned manual hay rakes. Then I thought it would be a great for the Messick brothers to do a video comparison of manual / horse drawn farm equipment vs. modern power equipment Make sure Neil gets the hay scythe.
I don't think this is a very good comparison between the different brands. He points out that some rake tooth aren't good for picking up the hay or grass. But the angle of the teeth comared to the ground is also an important factor he didn't count for, for his statments. Also the sizes of tubes and bearings and carrier bearings aren't straight comparisons. If you have a smaller rake diameter, you wont need a very heavy rake arm. I also think the krone arm is of of a more industrial high capacity rake with a bigger diameter ( so you need to have the extra strength) than the other brand rake arms he shows.
@@MessicksEquip we use krone our selves no rake but the mowers and tedders. In defense of kuhn the arm has a smaller bearing but if it is from the same size rotor. You can see that the kuhn has to have a mutch larger cam track witch in its place reduces the load on it.
I think your right, this is not a fair comparison, claas and kuhn have sealed oil filled cam tracks, much more durable and an lesser need of big roller bearings. And in the defence of the thickness of the arm in the case of claas the thinner arm is designed as the weak link. When you hit obstacle the arm is easily removed and pressed straight again. I rather prefer to press the arm straight again than replacing a whole assembly.
i have 3 older fella rakes. thy do a god job and are one of the most reliable machines i have. but the newer ones are quite expensive... krone in my experiense is not really as massive build. maybe the arms and the tines but the rest breaks faster than you think. must be a good welder to drive it for a long time...
When I saw the thumbnail, I thought you were doing a video on old fashioned manual hay rakes. Then I thought it would be a great for the Messick brothers to do a video comparison of manual / horse drawn farm equipment vs. modern power equipment Make sure Neil gets the hay scythe.
We have a Krone single rotor rake and I have to say it very well made and well designed would definitely recommend one to people looking 👍
We had a pequea, sold it and bought a krone. WAY better built rake in every way. Good job Krone 👌
We have a SIP one, had it last year disassembled and as i remember, inside it looked maybe even beefier than the Kuhn one, but thanks, great video.
It’s interesting to hear the different terminology used there compared to hear in Aus. What you call teeth we call Tyne/tine.
We call it a tine in NY, must be a PA thing to call em teeth.
Thats just a salesman not knowing the correct terminology for what he's talking about. Everyone around here calls them tines.
Definitely tine here in centre/blair counties PA
I don't think this is a very good comparison between the different brands. He points out that some rake tooth aren't good for picking up the hay or grass. But the angle of the teeth comared to the ground is also an important factor he didn't count for, for his statments. Also the sizes of tubes and bearings and carrier bearings aren't straight comparisons. If you have a smaller rake diameter, you wont need a very heavy rake arm. I also think the krone arm is of of a more industrial high capacity rake with a bigger diameter ( so you need to have the extra strength) than the other brand rake arms he shows.
these are all the same diameter rake, but to your point a lighter arm maybe able to get away with lighter bearings and less support.
@@MessicksEquip we use krone our selves no rake but the mowers and tedders. In defense of kuhn the arm has a smaller bearing but if it is from the same size rotor. You can see that the kuhn has to have a mutch larger cam track witch in its place reduces the load on it.
I think your right, this is not a fair comparison, claas and kuhn have sealed oil filled cam tracks, much more durable and an lesser need of big roller bearings.
And in the defence of the thickness of the arm in the case of claas the thinner arm is designed as the weak link. When you hit obstacle the arm is easily removed and pressed straight again. I rather prefer to press the arm straight again than replacing a whole assembly.
i have 3 older fella rakes. thy do a god job and are one of the most reliable machines i have. but the newer ones are quite expensive... krone in my experiense is not really as massive build. maybe the arms and the tines but the rest breaks faster than you think. must be a good welder to drive it for a long time...
Will you be able to sell a Krone to Wes Pandy before he can sell the Pandy Design Rake to Krone!
nice comparison....commercial hay producer vs 'gentleman farmer' or 'hobby farmer'
were is the Enorossi rake its the most affordable rotory rake available
Great info!
What about AGCO rakes? (MF/Fendt/Fella)
Was thinking the same thing
is a tonutti hay rake a good rake
Where's Neal?
Where's Niel?
We break up product lines with different family members. My cousin Bryan is more knowledgeable on farm implements.
@@MessicksEquip He did a good job teaching us about Rake size and Strength.
So are you saying krone is the best ?