I love my piranha tooth bar, it rips soil, shrubs, trees out of the ground. I grade my gravel driveway with it , and really strengthen my bucket bottom.
@@jagx234 idk about the best, but much better than a flat edge. I can't see there being anything better for compacted ground than an aggressive bar like in the video or a heavy hitch.
I made a clone of the Heavy Hitch one. Good also for brush pickup, you can “comb” the branches up. Picking up small logs. Popping under brush out of the ground Snagging down wild grape vines. Lots of other stuff. It is a force multiplier for the tractor.
A tooth bar makes an incredible difference in digging ability. I need one for my MX 5400 but I have a bolt on cutting edge. It’s nice to know that they also make tooth bars that work with buckets that have the extra bolt on cutting edge. I will be contacting Messicks about purchasing one. Thanks Neil
Cost seems to be another reason, I have had my eye on a 4in1 for my bx for about 4 years now but with already having a standard bucket and a grapple a almost $2k attachment is a little hard to swallow
I'm a little surprised the nuts are on the outside of the bucket. Seems like that would be a higher risk of snagging something than putting them on the inside. Seems like ideally the toothbar would be threaded and the bolt would screw into it. I can see issues with that too, but I like the idea better than using a bolt where the excess thread can get damaged and make removing the nut a lot more difficult.
They will getdamaged both on the inside or the outside. I like to put the nuts on the outside because your impact fits better, installing a carriage or countersunk bolt for a flat surface on the inside, and easier to grind it in the lenght of the bolt with a thin disk. The cost is so low i always mount new hardware
A loader bucket should BY DEFAULT, HAVE TEETH!!! 90% OF PEOPLE ARE NOT LOADING COMMODITIES ON CONCRETE. I bought a DK4510 for $25K and STILL needed to add a $300 tooth bar. The bucket was USELESS WITHOUT THE TOOTH BAR. Pirahna is mine and it works pretty good, but I should have gotten a more aggressive bar since we grow rocks in the Ozarks.
Speak for yourself. Most of the smaller tractors around me are being used in situations where they don't need tooth bars. Half the year the loader is only used for pushing snow and a tooth bar would be no use. A tooth bare is an attachment and justifiably an added cost.
Main purpose of my bucket is to help clear snow or move compost/dirt, or rocks when I get it delivered. Most people don't have a need to have to put their bucket into compact undisturbed soil. I never wanted one till I dug out a detention pond and re-graded my whole yard so water would flow towards it. I would get some xtreme flooding problems and it took some xtreme measures.
I love my piranha tooth bar, it rips soil, shrubs, trees out of the ground. I grade my gravel driveway with it , and really strengthen my bucket bottom.
I added the Pirahna tooth bar a few months ago. It makes a huge difference -- cuts through soil like soft butter now.
I recommend the piranha tooth bar.
Thats what I have as well
Same here. I could see the one like in this video being a lot better though for rocky or just really compacted ground.
@@Jtwizzle Pirahna is the worst for rocky, best for compacted. Heavy hitch style works much better for rocky/rooted.
@@jagx234 idk about the best, but much better than a flat edge. I can't see there being anything better for compacted ground than an aggressive bar like in the video or a heavy hitch.
I’m amazed at how a simple toothbar turned my BX bucket into a better digging machine. I’ve been looking for one for my L3940.
*Keep on tractoring!*
They make a huge difference. I was amazed. I run my bolts in. Easier on the pant legs.
Neil’s chill videos about tractors lower my anxiety
I didnt know i wanted a tooth bar for Christmas but here we are. This channel is always learning me.
I made a clone of the Heavy Hitch one. Good also for brush pickup, you can “comb” the branches up.
Picking up small logs.
Popping under brush out of the ground
Snagging down wild grape vines.
Lots of other stuff. It is a force multiplier for the tractor.
Glad to see you back in front of the camera, Neill!
Yes, got one with the MX5000.
It work's well on the wife's hair.
Added a wear bar and a Piranha bar on top of that to my BX25. Makes a huge difference removing hardpack snow and breaking down old snow berms.
A tooth bar makes an incredible difference in digging ability. I need one for my MX 5400 but I have a bolt on cutting edge. It’s nice to know that they also make tooth bars that work with buckets that have the extra bolt on cutting edge. I will be contacting Messicks about purchasing one. Thanks Neil
Love my piranha tooth bar
Thanks Neil
i have a heavy hitch tooth bar - like it due to easy on and off
If digging in mounds of river rock or crushed lime rock……. Thoughts on advantage of adding the teeth?
Huh, I thought a tooth bar was a social gathering place for dentists!..
great video
Niel, how come you people do not use a 4 in bucket, greatest invention yet, love mine. Karl from Australia
Weight of a 4n1.
A 4 n 1 on 2k lift capacity skid steer is a no brainer, but a 500lbs bucket on a 1,200 lbs capacity mid size hurts.
Yea, this is part of the reason. I kinda want to get one. It's popular in some markets, just not ours.
Cost seems to be another reason, I have had my eye on a 4in1 for my bx for about 4 years now but with already having a standard bucket and a grapple a almost $2k attachment is a little hard to swallow
Have I missed the light show?
No, working on it.
I'm a little surprised the nuts are on the outside of the bucket. Seems like that would be a higher risk of snagging something than putting them on the inside. Seems like ideally the toothbar would be threaded and the bolt would screw into it. I can see issues with that too, but I like the idea better than using a bolt where the excess thread can get damaged and make removing the nut a lot more difficult.
They will getdamaged both on the inside or the outside. I like to put the nuts on the outside because your impact fits better, installing a carriage or countersunk bolt for a flat surface on the inside, and easier to grind it in the lenght of the bolt with a thin disk. The cost is so low i always mount new hardware
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Great video! Does Messicks have a tooth bar for New Holland WM 25s? With the coupler bucket?
www.messicks.com/parts/46tb5tfr
Do they not offer a factory tooth bucket?
Doyou make one that fits a b7800 with the la402 60" bucket?
Yes, www.messicks.com/parts/58tb6tfr
@5:00 FAKE Hardpan. Next time use more leaves to cover the loose dirt.
A loader bucket should BY DEFAULT, HAVE TEETH!!! 90% OF PEOPLE ARE NOT LOADING COMMODITIES ON CONCRETE. I bought a DK4510 for $25K and STILL needed to add a $300 tooth bar. The bucket was USELESS WITHOUT THE TOOTH BAR. Pirahna is mine and it works pretty good, but I should have gotten a more aggressive bar since we grow rocks in the Ozarks.
Speak for yourself. Most of the smaller tractors around me are being used in situations where they don't need tooth bars. Half the year the loader is only used for pushing snow and a tooth bar would be no use. A tooth bare is an attachment and justifiably an added cost.
@@BillTheTractorMan Same here. Don't need one. If I need to dig in hard ground, there are rippers on my box blade to loosen things up.
Main purpose of my bucket is to help clear snow or move compost/dirt, or rocks when I get it delivered. Most people don't have a need to have to put their bucket into compact undisturbed soil. I never wanted one till I dug out a detention pond and re-graded my whole yard so water would flow towards it. I would get some xtreme flooding problems and it took some xtreme measures.