This Radio Has CHANGED My Mind About DMR
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2024
- I'm a DMR newbie and wanted to give it a go. So I got hold of a Radioddity GD-88 to put it through it's paces to see if it's an ideal radio for DMR beginners.
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0:00 I have too many HT's
0:57 Feature Overview
5:24 Using the radio's functions
7:42 Menu system is a bit.. well.. confusing
14:02 Output power & emissions test
17:02 BS Failed error message
17:44 Audio On Air
18:47 Full duplex
19:28 Crossband repeater (including digital!)
21:11 CPS software quirks
22:18 Honest last word
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I love my DMR radios. My W0CHP PiStar has Brandmeister, DMR+, TGIF, SystemX, XLX and DMR2YSF all running seamlessly.
you need an Retevis RT3S with OPENGD77 on it. turns a $130 radio to a $600 radio with features that amateur radio operators need and use. Icom and Yaesu should be taking notes from OPENGD77
I agree totally. But wasn't there an opengd77 radio in the video? Think it was the TYT MD380.
@@MI7DJT I did not see one
@@MI7DJT I re-watched and no there is no Opengd77 capable radio on the video.
@@IvanNedostal Sorry I'm lost what does your SDR have to do with this.
@@stevebrodie79 @14:49 in the video. He is using a RT3S with opengd77.
Open GD-77 firmware would be much easier to work with on one of the supported radios. Not a fan of this HT myself. Welcome to DMR! Hope to hear you on sometime!
Nice video Hayden! I struggled with DMR when I first got into it. I have an MD380, RT3S, 868, and 878 Bridgecom Systems helped me learn the CPS software. One thing I have found is the Contact software from N0GSG helps take one code plug and puts it in a neutral format so you can output codeplugs for different radios using the same data. It makes it easier to move from one DMR unit to another. 73
Thanks for the info!
Excellent video Hayden. As I've commented below i have the Retevis RT3S and i like it as i have now figured out all of its quirks. Some of the features of this one though do leave me wanting more from the RT3S. Also sorry i didn't have a better clip for you to splice into the video.
All good, thanks for the clip too
Thanks for the great video and the shout out!
You bet mate!
“Not too bad actually…” Thank you, that’s all I needed to know 😂 But I watched to the end …
50 mile range. Point to point. I love dmr
Thanks for testing the full duplex! Looks like this one should work well for satellites.
No problems at all!
If I wanted to send an analog APRS message like APRS2SOTA, is that possible on the GD88 or does it just do GPS beaconing?
I really like the btech 6x2, you can export to csv files, edit them and then import them back into the CPS it is so much easier, the anytone 878 does that too.
Exactly like a Motorola marine radio, just with a different sticker.
They've been around for a while now. I'm curious, what date stamp is on the chips and board.
Mine's 2019 xx xx.
. ;)
I remember my first DMR programming experience. So many "Curses and Oaths" shouted.... I nearly threw it out the window. Finally I developed a system that works.
I really liked this radio on the videos I seen with it but the faults/bugs stopped me till they were sorted.
I have the 878 and really like it.
I think we'd have to import the GD88 unless I can make it to the States next year. :/
I haven’t got into DMR because I don’t have a PC, only Mac. I won’t install Parallels or similar because I hate them and I don’t see why it needs to be so complicated. It’s 2023, we should be able to program radios with a smartphone.
Mine arrived a few days ago, did some updates and unfortunately im not having much luck with this radio. I've had to try to reflash it a few times, i note when you had it on the test set it was off freq but yours is working ! Ill persevere. Coming from a commercial radio background these cheaper radios are rather frustrating.
Update:
After alot of more testing this radio needs some help from software developers. The firmware is riddled with issues:
Volume control seems to freeze, aprs simply refuses to work: gps will not lock when you wander from inside to outside.... Dual vfo with one analogue channel and one dmr channel simultaneously wont work: zero RX. The most annoying thing is not being able to able to access any kind of alignment mode....
I have the GD-88 and I love it, despite some of it's weird quirks.
I have had the Anytone 868 for a few years and I view that the anytone is the best of the Chinese breeds. My Radioddity gd77 lasted about a year before it stopped working on DMR totally. FM was still OK.
Just like any HT, the manual entry is good for adding a repeater in the field. But the computer is better if you got the computer.
I'm interested in DMR potentially for event use, do you need a licensed for DMR in Australia? I can't find any decent info anywhere. Are there any license free frequence you can use it on. If any one can point me in the right directipm that would be awesome
Its an interesting radio, with dual transceivers.
I'm currently working on firmware for the MD2017 aka Retevis RT-82 which also has dual transceivers, however I'm not sure it would be able to receive on one band and transmit on another at the same time
I'm not sure how with a single antenna socket, that the front end of the Rx doesn't get overloaded by the Tx , even if its on a different band.
Unfortunately I've found out that the MD-2017 / RT-82 went out of production in 2019/2020, so the only radios still available to buy new are actually old stock and quite rare and expensive :-(
“Probably got more handhelds than I need” so gets another one ;) I can only just trigger one repeater from my QTH but still have two h/h - that could be worse….
The volume issue has had a test fix and it will be in the next firmware. One thing bad about DMR is that unless you have auto leveling on the radio you can get signals coming in at all volumes. It is not a radio thing it is a DMR thing. I do hope they add auto leveling in the future. It is easy enough to do in firmware and only takes a few lines of code.
..after working with many brands of commercial dmr equipment i can assure you its a radio thing. You get what you pay for.
@@roger_VK2VRK lol. No. You may have "worked with" many radios but you didn't learn how to use them or you wouldn't write stupidity like this on the Internet. Very few DMR radios have AVL.
@@roger_VK2VRK FWIW, it took Motorola several years to issue a working AVL for their XPR7000 and XPR5000 series of DMR radios...
I think over the PC you can customize the radio in a better way, on the radio its allways a learn curve and it takes a lot of time or some options are only in the cps avaiable. I would like to try that radio but i already have one Anytone878UV-Plus and two RT3S from Retevis XD but the Repeater funktion is interesting to me,
What we need is a DMR scanner in this radio that will load the DMR CC, slot and TGID so we can copy the network and get on it without knowing anything
I had to dig around the internet to find a Windows 11 driver for a TYT. The radio never really worked right, then died a week later.
I later figured out my Yaesu does YSF and DMR very easily - with a hotspot.
This one looks good though.
My DMR Radio of choice I bought this month is the Retevis RT-3S running OpenGD77 firmware. Game changer.
I was on the brink of spending £600 on a digital scanner for dmr etc , bought an £80 anytone and flashed that with gd77 it’s amazing.
Have you ever tried the Anytone 878? If you like the gd88 I think you'd really love the 878.. Although it's not full duplex or crossband.. The 878 is much easier to program.. and their is LOADS of information and tutorials on it online.. I like it much more than the gd88
If Anytone want to send me one...
I’d be curious for you to review and compare this radio to an Anytone 878
If Anytone want to send me one, sure!
I’ve been thinking about pulling the Trigger on a GD-88, this might convince me.
Trying to get a grasp on DMR. Can you go to any frequency? I know TX will be limited to radio hardware but can DMR's listen up to the 900 Mhz range?
Retevis has a 900 MHz capable DMR radio.
I tried DMR many times. It's cumbersome and not easy to program even on Analog with the horrible CPS. At this time that digital mode should be as easy as setting up Yeasu Fusion. I don't have a dstar repeater in my area, but the traffic is lackluster (using a hotspot) in my opinion with people fighting on 1C. I am happy with analog, Allstar and Fusion, but I don't monitor fusion as much as I used to.
Agreed, until digital voice becomes easy to use as analog, it will lag behind.
There is an update for the volume it works great with the update
How is the "desense" or selectivity on RX in a high RF environment?
Good question - I’ll have to take it to a broadcast site soon
The device is not full duplex, only half duplex. It is mentioned somewhere in the questions about the device from Radioddity. I would have bought it otherwise.
I have every top of the line handheld unit. This is my favorite. It took about 20minutes to have it up and going. I have it in low power mode with a nubby antenna on it and use it on my OpenSpot4. The cross mode cross band repeater is extremely simple to set up there are pics and instructions in the manual. Takes about 2 minutes. The menu system is modern like your phone. Hams are just so used to looking at the archaic menus on the older radios it takes a while to adapt. My only issue is with the software. The frustration is not you. There are bugs that cause failures that you can't fix. Especially when the code plug has a lot of contacts.
I still haven't got mine to show contact names instead of radioid's yet. Even though I've exported a list in and it says I have over 6000 contacts (Oceania)
@@HamRadioDX that is the way mine does also but I do not have people stored in mine. I have the DMR room numbers stored in the contact so I can switch rooms quickly from the radio. If the software were better I would just load them all in. The guy that made the third party software seems to be MIA since the last update.
@@HamRadioDX also I would love to see a video on how you got 6000 contacts to load. I have never been able to get that many in.
@@bryantwalley Someone exported the list from radioid and sent it to me in a csv file. Then I just imported it into the radioddity software and write to the radio. They are in there, listed under ham contacts... I just can't get them to display on the screen when I receive a DMR call.
@@HamRadioDX I can't get a list that large to load with either software. Both of them crash out.
Look. You did an Allstar node video. Now I have an Allstar / Echolink node. Now you do a DMR video and I have a DMR radio on its way. Cut it out! It's costing me too much to be subscribed! Perhaps do a few videos on the UV-5R - I already have one of them. (Keep up the great work but I'm telling my wife its all your fault 😂 )
Haha not guilty! I'm releasing a few UV-5R shorts lately
That keyboard and bottom half of the case is so similar to a nokia 6250... Made me drool just for that...
Read the comments/reviews on the Radioddity web page...not complementary, even on their own site. DMR radios software/firmware are very complex and require many iterations over time to get working properly.
try an Alinco or an anytone
This seems better than the anytone
Maybe you can advocate for Australia with Radioddity so we can buy stuff from them in Australia. Used to be able to but not possible now. I have asked them a few times to no avail.
Recently they announced some products are available for shipping direct to Australia - but not everything.
www.radioddity.com/collections/international-shipping
I’ll have to circle back and watch… have a work meeting
Nice deep dive son 🍺
Cheers Ape
Ok so, I'm looking forward to your next video where your working SO50 using this radio and your new arrow ii antenna.
Why SO50 and not the ISS repeater... Because SO50 works just as well, is always available and moves a lot slower over the sky. Ie 13 minute pass vs 5 minute pass.
Yeah I’ll have to bust that antenna out and make a few contacts!
@@HamRadioDX one of the best things I've found about Ham Radio as a hobby is that it's very easy to be successful. Watch some RUclips's, read some web pages and follow them and bing go it not only works but works well. It's the same with this. Plus learning how to work satellites is heaps easier than the other video where you've learnt and are proficient in Morse code :)
I recently bought a Rugged R1. It has DMR and cost $135.
This interface is basically the same as the RT73.
I’ve had one for a year have they updated the firmware?
Firmware has had two updates over the past year.
Kydera also have released an update, which fixes the minimum audio volume (not perfect, but usable now).
You haven't used yet Anytone or TYT MD390?? They say these are the best ones, and much better than those of radioddity
Nope.. Anyone can send me one if they like
I hate my GD88 just slightly more than I hate my GD73. The only two reasons I keep it is to a) remind me to stop buying cheap DMR radios, and b) to punish myself.
Out of all of my DMR radios, the GD88 is the one that sits on the shelf rarely used. It has amazing features, but the battery life and interface make me want to rip the developers hair out with needle nose pliers.
I have 2 DMR radio and I don't really use them and not a fan of dmr
"Not a fan", yet you get 2 rigs? Your funny!
@@devilsatan2973 yep I thought maybe it \as the radio but nope not a fun programming them are pain in the ass I will never buy a 3rd one so I have ysf,destar and DMR I will do a big pass on dmr
Very mixed reviews. Wondering if the AT-D878UVII-Plus is worth the extra $100 more. Has much more consistent reviews.
If you have too many handhelds I know a couple of young HAMs who would be interested (As I am one of them)...
Not impressed with Radiodditys website, went there to buy this radio and they push hard on an attractive combo deal that includes a second battery but when you go to check out they remove the battery and bump the price up well beyond the deal price.
Ended up ordering just the radio, I will look to designing and 3D printing a battery with 5000mah 21700 cells in instead.
Additionally, 9 days on, its only just boarded a plane to be shipped
Regarding the title, do you
think the radio changed your mind about DMR because of its properties or would it be equally true to say ”Trying DMR made me change my mind about it”?
As per the title.
@@HamRadioDX Ok, that felt unnecessarily flippant as a reply but fair enough.
Your title implies that the radio possess qualities that made you reevaluate a previous stance on DMR that you had accumulated through using other DMR handsets/radios/SDR solutions rather than you just being negative for no good reason to DMR and then discovered that "hey DMR is not so bad" when you actually ignored your own closed mindedness.
Either way I don't care anymore, I just wanted to know if I had misunderstood something but whatever.
I cant buy this radio as they wont ship the battery to Australia ????? bit strange
Order it via US mail forwarder
Thanks Hayden but I would not know how to@@HamRadioDX
Learning curve! Seems more like a U-Turn.
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Looks like a nice radio, just very big/bulky and it lacks a USB charge port. Even my Anytone D878 is too big and bulky. Wish manufacturers would make radios more compact. Agree, DMR audio is crappy, probably because its 6.25khz bandwidth. I still prefer analog, sounds better and easier to set up.
This should be marked as promotional.
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Too Complex .... I will pass on his one- The DMR fad is passing here in the States
I hate dmr had a anytime and a bridgecom both sucked
DMR.... Not one of Motorola's finest achievements. I can't stand the robotic audio.
I'm wondering how this ONE radio changed your mind about dmr when you've never tried any other before? It's seems like a commercial to me, sorry and also I don't know how serious I can take your channel if you do just ads for seller paying you for doing videos, devices or money doesn't make any difference
I didn't like DMR - I had never tried it. Bit like kids who don't like food until they try it.. But once I got this up and running, it's been fun to play with, so effectively, yes it has changed my mind on DMR.
Radioddity didn't pay me a cent for the video. They provided the radio for review.
I hate dmr