Well honestly, if Primeape gets mad enough that he doesn't stop raging till he either wins or dies, Annihilape was a pretty natural option. Though I think it would've been cool to see a split evolution, one where he goes the Annihilape route, and another where he learns to control his rage and becomes peaceful.
"Kingambit is too chunky to be a bishop" but it's not a bishop, its a king. Each member represents a different chess piece. Pawniard is a pawn, bisharp is a bishop, and kingambit is a king
fun fact actually! the pawniard line isn't actually supposed to represent chess for the most part, that's just their english name motif! while pawniards japanese name has the name of a shogi (japanese chess) piece in koma, and pawniards evolving into bisharp may be in reference to the way you can promote a pawn if you get it to the opposite side of the chess board (in this case it is promoted to a bishop), there isnt much else relation to chess, especially in kingambit's design which has no relation besides the english name which is obviously "king" and "gambit", both chess related terms, along with the chess opening known as the "king's gambit". they're actually based off of samurai! among other things, of course. • pawniard also has some references to thieves (most notably in its english name, which contains the word palliard meaning a beggar or vagrant) along with possibly being based on a lower-class thief as they hunt in groups commanded by bisharp. • bisharp was inspired by jet jaguar from the 1973 film "godzilla vs megalon" along with again the possibility of being based on higher-class thieves or gang leaders that command their underlings in the way bisharp commands and leads pawniard. it also looks like a soldier due to the appearance and stance. also, to quote bulbapedia, "It may also originate from kaijin, humanoid villains found in Japanese monster movies." • kingambit is based off of shogun and damaiyo from japan's past, and its hair "throne" is in reference to the chrysanthemum throne used by japanese emperors. it's also based off of rhinocerous beetles, especially with the bowing pose used when it attacks resembling how those beetles fight. apologies for the uncalled for "um actually" comment, im just very passionate about this line as bisharp is my favorite pokemon! 😅 please dont murder me in the replies i just like sharing information i feel doesnt get seen enough
@@devilryhours dog no hate but you coulda said that without all that but the English name wanna base it on chess then it’s gone base it on chess, samurai who knows
This is why I don’t like tier lists. Sure it’s people’s opinions but don’t try to explain to me why you put something at a low tier. I will just disagree. My boy got shafted and of course ceruledge is cooler. I like the entire line but I think ceruledge gets too much love in the Pokémon community and armarouge gets too little.
a criticism I kinda have with the Gen 9 evolutionary lines is that they either change too much between stages or dont change enough. Like it feels like Pawmo could have been removed entirely, Scovillain is missing its final stage, and Espathra is missing a middle evolution
that's moreso a problem with that one evolution line rather than a problem with an entire generation. The rest of Gen 5's evos are pretty solid, though I wish Volcarona had a middle evo so it could be the pseudo-legendary it was meant to be
It does have this problem, but I think it also has one of the most comprehensive evolutions in pokemon with the Tinkaton line. The name, the appearance, and the pokedex entries all mesh so perfectly
Clodsire is a certified S-tier boi. Just when you think Quagsire couldn't get any better, Clodsire and his face came to bless us all with pure serotonin.
Jaiden is an edgy alt girl (not a roast, just a fact she freely admits to even) so it makes sense she would deliberately rank popular Clodsire lower than all the less popular smol guys she rated A without a second thought. Understandable, but not forgivable lol.
@@ajmoment8091 I do think there's sort of a way to talk about the designs more in depth... forgive me, I know it's not that serious, but I have a brain that goes on tangents, and this will be my soapbox. dip out now if you don't want to read a lot of text. I think in general, this generation has three overarching problems, but it's hard to pull them all together neatly. 1. one of the biggest problems is a lack of differentiation between base forms and their evolved forms. biggest example is the Pawmi line. I can barely even remember which name goes with which guy in that line because it does not matter in the slightest to my eyes or ears. they all look annoying anyway, I hate how their arms are chunky, which is supposed to be like fluffy fur, but the texture makes it look like they're just bulbous, gooey, and swollen, and it makes me uncomfortable looking at them. 2. and so, the second issue is that the 3D rendering enables aesthetic _crimes_ against my eyes. Skeledirge is actually gonna be my example for this one. every time I look at that guy, it feels like his whole head is aesthetically from a lego version of pokemon. it's perfectly smooth with decals on it, there is Z E R O texture anywhere. put that thing next to any gen 1 pokemon and tell me they're from the same series. I hate it when there's a pokemon design where I just cannot tell what materials the animal is even made of. which parts of its head are bone, and which parts are skin? is his hide tough like an alligator, is it all just fleshy... he could be made of aluminum for all I know. like, idk, it's a smoothly rendered 3D model. who will ever be able to tell what it's made of? everything that has ever been rendered that way will always look like a hard smooth surface (metal, scales, carapaces, etc.) or, if it has any give to it at all, it'll look too goopy. nothing has fur anymore if you really look at it closely for a moment... I don't care what texture they mapped onto all the smooth surfaces the thing is made of, you can't fool me, it's smooth. and it always will be, because actual real textures suck to build in 3D. 3. and then the last big problem is that I hate how certain pokemon animate. Bombirdier _sucks,_ not because I even mind the concept, but because when you watch the animation of it dropping things, that flap moves on it's own, as though there's like, a muscle in there. like it's an arm. I don't think it's meant to be a skin flap, but how else do you explain the way it moves?? if the animal's anatomy works the way it's animation implies, then I think it's disgusting... and I'm not willing to hand wave it on the grounds of suspension of disbelief. my disbelief has become un-suspended. the design has failed. if those issues can be avoided, then I'm a little more ambivalent... the Tinkaton line is fine because it reads as a doll, so you expect less realism in the textures, but it has a bit of the issue where the evolved forms lack differentiation from one another. the Charcadet line is fine because they already look like action figures, or robots or something, and a smooth textured carapace suits that. the Toedscool line is phenomenal because it works _with_ the goopy 3D texture issue, and the jellyfish-to-mushroom aesthetic comparison works really well. Jaden's whole observation about the Bisharp line is spot on... Kingambit has the "it animates awkwardly" issue 100%. Clodsire is fine... once again, it works with the smooth goopy texture of 3D rendering. Annihilape is fine... they actually figured out a fur texture that works okay by matting the strands together into chunks. it's probably the most successful way they have of marrying the smooth 3d model skin with the need to convey hair. the Sprigatito line is fine, though I might have a few more nitpicky design complaints on the basis of evolution variation if I was really gonna dig into it. I agree with Jaden's thoughts on the Fuecoco line with the exception of my complaints about Skeledirge and texture. Quaxly is an example of them trying to lean into the goop factor _way_ too hard with the texture of it's pompadour, but the final evolution solves that issue. overall, the starters struggle with middle evolutions super hard in this gen... they're either underwhelming, not differentiated enough from their previous/next forms, or straight up ugly. the Lechonk line is boring but doesn't give me fits for any of the main three issues, so it's mostly unremarkable... I do hate the end of female Oinkologne's tail though, I hate it's gross finger-like tassle hairs. Dudunsparce I have no issue with, but that's no surprise because Dunsparce was already a super solid design that translated well into 3D. Tarountula is good, but Spidops looks like it's missing something... I saw someone edit it once, so that it's abdomen still had the round yarn ball from Tarountula's design, and it looked a lot better. Nyble is really good, but tbh all bugs tend to work well in 3D because they have smooth carapace shells, and that's very compatible with 3D modeling... that said, Lokix looks stiff to me. I think the way it animates actually totally saves it though, like, I love the way it uses those extending back legs. (to be continued)
(continued) Rellor itself is fine, but I don't tend to like it when a pokemon is dwarfed by it's prop. I actually have that issue with the Tinkaton line as well, like, if the prop overshadows the pokemon, then it just feels like it's all gimmick, no substance. and yeah, Rabsca has the issue of not being different enough from Rellor. I know their colors are very different, and Rabsca's design inspiration takes a wild turn, but in terms of size and silhouette, they're too close. the Greavard line almost has the same issue, like, I know the dog gets bigger and they put a different thing on it's head, but that's basically just the same dog. Mabosstiff's line is like this too, plus it's ugly with boring colors. I actually have no issue with the Flittle line. if anything, I wish Flittle was a bit bigger, because the design changes so much between Flittle and Espartha, that you don't need such a dramatic size difference. Flittle should be comparable in size to Togepi. then it's fine. Farigiraf is fine, no notes. the Wigglet line leans into the goopy texture of the 3D model in a gross way, and I think how much you like or hate it depends on if that gross goop factor is a selling point to you or not. Dondozo is fine... fish also do well when 3D rendered, because they're smooth already. the Palafin line is awkward, especially because Palafin stands on it's tail, but it doesn't look like it can walk... it looks like it's legs are bound together at the ankles, but also it doesn't have legs, and I can't tell if that's better or worse for it conceptually. it has the Kingambit problem of "I don't know how this animal moves around, and thus, I don't know how this animal lives it's life" but at least that can be solved by assuming that Palafin swims... I guess. I just hugely dislike it when it feels like the need to design a cool pokemon supersedes the pokemon's function as an animal that has to go about it's own business day-to-day. the whole Smolive line is fine, but I wish the leaves on Arboliva's branches were rendered as individual leaves, and not just one big green chunk per bough. it also almost has the "how does it walk around" issue, but it saves itself by at least having legs. Veluza is fine. I agree with Jaden about the Capsakid line, Scovillain should be bigger. I also understand that Scovillain's necks are supposed to be stems, but it bothers me that they're so skinny. it doesn't seem like Scovillain should be able to support it's heads in that position... even real peppers hang from their stems, the stems don't hold them upright vertically. Doduo didn't have this problem because birds set a precedent of being lightweight in the way their bodies are constructed, but Scovillain's heads look too heavy for the same logic to save it. Tadbulb is fine, but I hate Bellibolt's fake eyes, and the fact that it's just a blob with nothing else going on. like, we already have a ton of smooth blobs in pokemon, why did we need this? Revavroom is fine, but I'm not as into pokemon that look like vehicles or complex man-made equipment... Rolycoly is kind of a bummer to me for the same reason. Orthworm is great and works really well. it doesn't irritate me for any of my main three reasons, and it justifies itself being a single stage pokemon. the Maushold line just looks like it was designed by Sanrio, and has poor differentiation between itself and it's evolution again. I don't really have issues with Cetoddle's line, except I think Cetitan's mouth is gross when it opens it. the Frigibax line is so smooth that it looks unfinished. put Baxcalibur next to Tyranitar and just make some mental notes about why Tyranitar looks like a complete design, while Baxcalibur looks like he got knocked out and looted, and is now missing most of his equipment. Tatsugiri is fine... I actually like their multiple forms quite a bit. Cyclizar works as a pre-evolution of the legendaries but I also wish he was a less ugly color. beyond that he's fine, no notes. Pawmi is conditionally cute but it isn't justified having even one evolution that looks like that, much less two. Jaden is right about Wattrel, it's cute, quirky, and charming, and then it evolves, loses the charm, and gets boring. Squawkabilly is fine... I think it'll grow on me more over time. Flamigo is fine... I think he's stylized strangely enough to justify himself. Klawf is right up there with Orthworm for me, they're both really solid designs, and I love the goofy bug eyes on Klawf especially. the Nacli line is fine. the Glimmet line is fine. Shroodle is gross and has bigtime goop texture, and that is just not necessary for a thing that evolves into Grafaiai. Grafaiai, is just fine, I like it, it can stay. the Fidough line is surprisingly aesthetically strong for basic dog pokemon. why have the Mabosstif line if we have these? the Bramblin line has the lack of differentiation problem again... I want the creators of this gen to pick either Bramblin or Brambleghast and then either make it a single stage evolution, or give it an evolution that actually changes. anyway... you get the idea. a ton of these designs have flaws that boil down to: make the evolutionary stages look different from one another, or don't have them. tell me what material the pokemon is made of by actually drawing it that way, not just in terms of surface texture, but in terms of the actual shape of the pokemon's body. and design pokemon that look like they could actually live full lives. don't make them be stuck in one pose, don't animate them in ways that imply untrue things about their anatomy, let them move around in a way that makes sense for their bodies.
I know you said Pokémon that just don't evolve or have a pre-evolution are hard to make, but they did such a good job on Grafaiai, just to give it a pre-evolution anyway.
Jaiden hating on the kokopelli is absolutely freaking hilarious and deeply saddening as an Arizona resident at the same time. And for the record, she's absolutely right. The kokopelli is everywhere here.
The Idea behind Lokix is more than what many think and the typing fits perfactly with what Lokix is supposed to be. Lokix is a Kamen rider. For those who might not know Kamen Rider is a tokusatsu show similar to power rangers/super sentai but without the mecha final battles. Many Riders before 2000s were solely based on Insects with the first rider Ichigo based on a Grasshopper. Lokix's typing of Bug/Dark reflects the original rider's origin as Kamen Rider Ichigo was original made as a pawn of the villainous organization known as Shocker which you guessed it wanted to take over the world BUT before the brainwashing was complete the Rider was freed and decided to use the power he was given by this evil to fight for Justice thus reflected in its typing of Bug(the grasshopper theming) and Dark(Original meant to be a soldier for evil but now fights for the good.) so Lokix actually is quite more interesting than just a "Chainsaw Grasshopper."
I think it’s part of Flamigo’s charm. This plain looking bird that is secretly good in battle. Them giving it to Larry(the one ordinary man in the lineup) was genius
I may be cosplaying as Iron Valiant this year but my number #1 is Spidops. I've wanted an Ogre Spider forever and making them Solid Snake is just wonderful. Silk Trap's fun too! ...It's to the point where I wrote a fat portion of their Bulbapedia page. I may be obsessed.
@@liammccartney6754 And because it has a lower BST than the Starter's MID-EVOS. Spidops deserves an Evolution that resurrects its Tarountula traits and gives it good Stats, a usable Mono-Bug sounds so fun! Plus, the early-Route Bugs DO traditionally have three Stages. Perhaps it would be one of those prickly spinning wheels used for sewing, to continue Spidops's marionette theme and Tarountula's yarn abdomen.
Tinkaton is literally the best Pokémon in Generation 9, strong (with its OP move lol don't look at its atk stats) cute and with a good typing, how could you not love it?
My mom really likes Kokopelli and he's all over my house, so I, too, grew up seeing a lot of him. I never saw Gholdengo as Kokopelli. I always thought he looked like the string cheese man. (Just looked up a picture and apparently I'm not the only one.
Baxcalibler totally knows it's not as popular as the other pseudo legendaies, and works twice as hard because of it! I couldn't help but slowly grow respect for it. Shiny hunted a Frigibax for my post-game team.
I don't think I've ever had such conflicting feelings on a tier list before~ xD I agree with so much and disagree with maybe an equal amount~ Still, always fun to get your opinions on things and I enjoyed hearing them! EDIT: Also, we all know that the real reason you don't like Oinkologne is because it reminds you too much of Sue E~ THE SHEER DISRESPECT FOR KILOWATTREL AND CETITAN THOUGH D
Jaiden put 2/3 of the Pokemon on this list that are in my party in F tier, and my least favorite Pokemon of all time in A tier, and that's the type of anger you can only get from a tier list video. I forgive her, though, because she's one of my comfort RUclipsrs that I go to when the vibes are off.
When I saw flittle I got so excited because it reminded me of Ponyo and I loved it. I didn’t look up evolutions or anything so when my flittle named Ponyo evolved into an ostrich I was a little upset
Excellent 2nd Channel video. Overall, the Pokémon in Scarlet and Violet are insanely well-designed, save for Flamigo, which is literally just a flamingo that Game Freak made slightly cartoonish. Your first sponsor went well. I can’t wait for your plushie ranking videos for the other gens, which I really enjoyed and watched the whole way thru multiple times, in case you didn’t read my comment on that video
You should do more tier lists, but you go backwards since this one is paldea, which means next would be galar then alola and so fourth (or back) This is just a suggestion but I think it would be fun
OMG I WAS WONDERING I WAS JUST ABT TO COMMENT WHEN AND WHERE THIS STREAM WAS but sadly I was in subathon for a bit but then gave up lol (it was a busy time for me)
9:55 Wasn't Kokopelli the inspiration for Celebi (especially for Beta Celebi) ? Never thought about Gholdengo being similar to it, but the ressemblance is there (except for the flute thing)
I have a connection to the Pawmi line…..mines name is Sony and he clutched a lot of fights for me on my journey. For that I will always love that line. He’s got the Reliable Partner title and it’s so true
brute bonnet > swamp amugos > ungabungos (we got a leaked screen shot of ungabungos without the name so someone said in a fake leak it's called ungabungus which is just such a great name)
Yippee on the first sponsor and also on being nominated for streamys as a Vtuber. Not even a year and already killing it \o/. Also @ 7:55 "L Take....I'm going to ban you" LMAO that's the best response, didn't even hesitate to say it.
Shockingly I completely respect this list. I don't agree with it mind you, (Nacli line, Sandy Shocks, and Revavroom notably) but I can see where you're coming from with all of them
spidops is based on an ogre spider I'm pretty sure, and to their credit he looks a lot like it but i definitely think they could have designed the legs better since the actual spider's legs are very spindly
Awesome video! We have very different takes on some pokemon but its all good. Also loved the use of the cafe music from Custom Robo, hopefully someone else recognizes it too, one of the best GameCube games!
Pokemon scarlet gets such special treatment solely from the paradox forms. On one hand you have awesome prehistoric lifeforms and on the other you have i robot
Missed opportunity to give cyclizar branch evolutions of an electric dragon and fighting dragon type, to kind of like hint even more to his past and future forms
My tier list would be a bit different then Jaiden’s tier list. But we all have our own options of the Pokémons on Scarlet and Violet. I respect Jaiden’s honesty of each Pokémon. Of why she likes it and why she doesn’t.
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I would've clicked the link but the amount of L takes here is crazy /j /lh
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Still can't believe their idea for a Primeape evolution was to kill him.
AND IT WORKS!
Well honestly, if Primeape gets mad enough that he doesn't stop raging till he either wins or dies, Annihilape was a pretty natural option. Though I think it would've been cool to see a split evolution, one where he goes the Annihilape route, and another where he learns to control his rage and becomes peaceful.
@@sebastianesquivel5011 Could be a Fighting/Psychic type. A good contrast with Annihilape
My boy primeape evolves by dying using a ghost type move 20 times. 🥲
@@sebastianesquivel5011 Like Darmanitan zen mode?
"Kingambit is too chunky to be a bishop" but it's not a bishop, its a king. Each member represents a different chess piece. Pawniard is a pawn, bisharp is a bishop, and kingambit is a king
Yea like in chess there’s the king gambit declined
She's pronouncing Bisharp wrong, I think, and means it's too clunky to be in the Bisharp line, which I agree with.
@@miles6492it’s a king for a reason he eat to much and got to fat
fun fact actually! the pawniard line isn't actually supposed to represent chess for the most part, that's just their english name motif!
while pawniards japanese name has the name of a shogi (japanese chess) piece in koma, and pawniards evolving into bisharp may be in reference to the way you can promote a pawn if you get it to the opposite side of the chess board (in this case it is promoted to a bishop), there isnt much else relation to chess, especially in kingambit's design which has no relation besides the english name which is obviously "king" and "gambit", both chess related terms, along with the chess opening known as the "king's gambit".
they're actually based off of samurai! among other things, of course.
• pawniard also has some references to thieves (most notably in its english name, which contains the word palliard meaning a beggar or vagrant) along with possibly being based on a lower-class thief as they hunt in groups commanded by bisharp.
• bisharp was inspired by jet jaguar from the 1973 film "godzilla vs megalon" along with again the possibility of being based on higher-class thieves or gang leaders that command their underlings in the way bisharp commands and leads pawniard. it also looks like a soldier due to the appearance and stance. also, to quote bulbapedia, "It may also originate from kaijin, humanoid villains found in Japanese monster movies."
• kingambit is based off of shogun and damaiyo from japan's past, and its hair "throne" is in reference to the chrysanthemum throne used by japanese emperors. it's also based off of rhinocerous beetles, especially with the bowing pose used when it attacks resembling how those beetles fight.
apologies for the uncalled for "um actually" comment, im just very passionate about this line as bisharp is my favorite pokemon! 😅 please dont murder me in the replies i just like sharing information i feel doesnt get seen enough
@@devilryhours dog no hate but you coulda said that without all that but the English name wanna base it on chess then it’s gone base it on chess, samurai who knows
I haven’t gotten 20 seconds into this video and I’m already offended, that’s just what a tier list does to ya.
She did armarouge dirty man
@@hario7641agreed
@@wilh3lmmusiceah I agree
@@hario7641Samurai guy with two blades as hands moment
This is why I don’t like tier lists. Sure it’s people’s opinions but don’t try to explain to me why you put something at a low tier. I will just disagree. My boy got shafted and of course ceruledge is cooler.
I like the entire line but I think ceruledge gets too much love in the Pokémon community and armarouge gets too little.
The fact that Jaiden says everyone is fooled to like Lechonk purely for the name
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And then she falls for Smoliv
Tbf Smoliv definitely has an adorable face
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I mean, Lechonk is a great pun. But I like it because it looks like P-chan from Ranma 1/2
I don't like Lechonk for it's name, I just think that it looks cute. I think that not having english as my main language makes it less funny?
@@BJGvideosThat's what I named mine!😊
Only Jaiden casually returns (on 2nd channel) after 3 months with a Pokemon tier list, I respect the bravery
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Only jaiden would earn the respect of Heisenberg
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a criticism I kinda have with the Gen 9 evolutionary lines is that they either change too much between stages or dont change enough. Like it feels like Pawmo could have been removed entirely, Scovillain is missing its final stage, and Espathra is missing a middle evolution
u think Gen 9 is bad? samurott barely looks anything like oshawott and dewott ;-;
that's moreso a problem with that one evolution line rather than a problem with an entire generation. The rest of Gen 5's evos are pretty solid, though I wish Volcarona had a middle evo so it could be the pseudo-legendary it was meant to be
It absolutely feels that way, besides that most designs also feel like they lack in execution of an otherwise interesting idea (imo).
It does have this problem, but I think it also has one of the most comprehensive evolutions in pokemon with the Tinkaton line. The name, the appearance, and the pokedex entries all mesh so perfectly
Never even thought about Scovillain being a middle stage mon but that could be cool to give it an evo.
Clodsire is a certified S-tier boi. Just when you think Quagsire couldn't get any better, Clodsire and his face came to bless us all with pure serotonin.
Jaiden is an edgy alt girl (not a roast, just a fact she freely admits to even) so it makes sense she would deliberately rank popular Clodsire lower than all the less popular smol guys she rated A without a second thought. Understandable, but not forgivable lol.
Yes, my clodsire plush is on the way
I like that he has Water Absorb. He's really only weak to Psychic and Ground types and he has good bulk too
Isn’t he just Quagsire but brown and laying down
@@EmiDelta P E R I S H
I love how Jaiden talks about these Pokemon like a 12 year old boy playing with his action figures.
“I like this guy, he’s awesome.”
How else are you supposed to talk about pokemon? They pretty much just are action figures for 12 year old boys.
@@ajmoment8091 I do think there's sort of a way to talk about the designs more in depth... forgive me, I know it's not that serious, but I have a brain that goes on tangents, and this will be my soapbox. dip out now if you don't want to read a lot of text.
I think in general, this generation has three overarching problems, but it's hard to pull them all together neatly.
1. one of the biggest problems is a lack of differentiation between base forms and their evolved forms. biggest example is the Pawmi line. I can barely even remember which name goes with which guy in that line because it does not matter in the slightest to my eyes or ears. they all look annoying anyway, I hate how their arms are chunky, which is supposed to be like fluffy fur, but the texture makes it look like they're just bulbous, gooey, and swollen, and it makes me uncomfortable looking at them.
2. and so, the second issue is that the 3D rendering enables aesthetic _crimes_ against my eyes. Skeledirge is actually gonna be my example for this one. every time I look at that guy, it feels like his whole head is aesthetically from a lego version of pokemon. it's perfectly smooth with decals on it, there is Z E R O texture anywhere. put that thing next to any gen 1 pokemon and tell me they're from the same series. I hate it when there's a pokemon design where I just cannot tell what materials the animal is even made of. which parts of its head are bone, and which parts are skin? is his hide tough like an alligator, is it all just fleshy... he could be made of aluminum for all I know. like, idk, it's a smoothly rendered 3D model. who will ever be able to tell what it's made of? everything that has ever been rendered that way will always look like a hard smooth surface (metal, scales, carapaces, etc.) or, if it has any give to it at all, it'll look too goopy. nothing has fur anymore if you really look at it closely for a moment... I don't care what texture they mapped onto all the smooth surfaces the thing is made of, you can't fool me, it's smooth. and it always will be, because actual real textures suck to build in 3D.
3. and then the last big problem is that I hate how certain pokemon animate. Bombirdier _sucks,_ not because I even mind the concept, but because when you watch the animation of it dropping things, that flap moves on it's own, as though there's like, a muscle in there. like it's an arm. I don't think it's meant to be a skin flap, but how else do you explain the way it moves?? if the animal's anatomy works the way it's animation implies, then I think it's disgusting... and I'm not willing to hand wave it on the grounds of suspension of disbelief. my disbelief has become un-suspended. the design has failed.
if those issues can be avoided, then I'm a little more ambivalent... the Tinkaton line is fine because it reads as a doll, so you expect less realism in the textures, but it has a bit of the issue where the evolved forms lack differentiation from one another. the Charcadet line is fine because they already look like action figures, or robots or something, and a smooth textured carapace suits that. the Toedscool line is phenomenal because it works _with_ the goopy 3D texture issue, and the jellyfish-to-mushroom aesthetic comparison works really well. Jaden's whole observation about the Bisharp line is spot on... Kingambit has the "it animates awkwardly" issue 100%. Clodsire is fine... once again, it works with the smooth goopy texture of 3D rendering.
Annihilape is fine... they actually figured out a fur texture that works okay by matting the strands together into chunks. it's probably the most successful way they have of marrying the smooth 3d model skin with the need to convey hair. the Sprigatito line is fine, though I might have a few more nitpicky design complaints on the basis of evolution variation if I was really gonna dig into it. I agree with Jaden's thoughts on the Fuecoco line with the exception of my complaints about Skeledirge and texture. Quaxly is an example of them trying to lean into the goop factor _way_ too hard with the texture of it's pompadour, but the final evolution solves that issue. overall, the starters struggle with middle evolutions super hard in this gen... they're either underwhelming, not differentiated enough from their previous/next forms, or straight up ugly.
the Lechonk line is boring but doesn't give me fits for any of the main three issues, so it's mostly unremarkable... I do hate the end of female Oinkologne's tail though, I hate it's gross finger-like tassle hairs. Dudunsparce I have no issue with, but that's no surprise because Dunsparce was already a super solid design that translated well into 3D. Tarountula is good, but Spidops looks like it's missing something... I saw someone edit it once, so that it's abdomen still had the round yarn ball from Tarountula's design, and it looked a lot better. Nyble is really good, but tbh all bugs tend to work well in 3D because they have smooth carapace shells, and that's very compatible with 3D modeling... that said, Lokix looks stiff to me. I think the way it animates actually totally saves it though, like, I love the way it uses those extending back legs.
(to be continued)
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Rellor itself is fine, but I don't tend to like it when a pokemon is dwarfed by it's prop. I actually have that issue with the Tinkaton line as well, like, if the prop overshadows the pokemon, then it just feels like it's all gimmick, no substance. and yeah, Rabsca has the issue of not being different enough from Rellor. I know their colors are very different, and Rabsca's design inspiration takes a wild turn, but in terms of size and silhouette, they're too close. the Greavard line almost has the same issue, like, I know the dog gets bigger and they put a different thing on it's head, but that's basically just the same dog. Mabosstiff's line is like this too, plus it's ugly with boring colors. I actually have no issue with the Flittle line. if anything, I wish Flittle was a bit bigger, because the design changes so much between Flittle and Espartha, that you don't need such a dramatic size difference. Flittle should be comparable in size to Togepi. then it's fine.
Farigiraf is fine, no notes. the Wigglet line leans into the goopy texture of the 3D model in a gross way, and I think how much you like or hate it depends on if that gross goop factor is a selling point to you or not. Dondozo is fine... fish also do well when 3D rendered, because they're smooth already. the Palafin line is awkward, especially because Palafin stands on it's tail, but it doesn't look like it can walk... it looks like it's legs are bound together at the ankles, but also it doesn't have legs, and I can't tell if that's better or worse for it conceptually. it has the Kingambit problem of "I don't know how this animal moves around, and thus, I don't know how this animal lives it's life" but at least that can be solved by assuming that Palafin swims... I guess. I just hugely dislike it when it feels like the need to design a cool pokemon supersedes the pokemon's function as an animal that has to go about it's own business day-to-day.
the whole Smolive line is fine, but I wish the leaves on Arboliva's branches were rendered as individual leaves, and not just one big green chunk per bough. it also almost has the "how does it walk around" issue, but it saves itself by at least having legs. Veluza is fine. I agree with Jaden about the Capsakid line, Scovillain should be bigger. I also understand that Scovillain's necks are supposed to be stems, but it bothers me that they're so skinny. it doesn't seem like Scovillain should be able to support it's heads in that position... even real peppers hang from their stems, the stems don't hold them upright vertically. Doduo didn't have this problem because birds set a precedent of being lightweight in the way their bodies are constructed, but Scovillain's heads look too heavy for the same logic to save it.
Tadbulb is fine, but I hate Bellibolt's fake eyes, and the fact that it's just a blob with nothing else going on. like, we already have a ton of smooth blobs in pokemon, why did we need this? Revavroom is fine, but I'm not as into pokemon that look like vehicles or complex man-made equipment... Rolycoly is kind of a bummer to me for the same reason. Orthworm is great and works really well. it doesn't irritate me for any of my main three reasons, and it justifies itself being a single stage pokemon. the Maushold line just looks like it was designed by Sanrio, and has poor differentiation between itself and it's evolution again. I don't really have issues with Cetoddle's line, except I think Cetitan's mouth is gross when it opens it. the Frigibax line is so smooth that it looks unfinished. put Baxcalibur next to Tyranitar and just make some mental notes about why Tyranitar looks like a complete design, while Baxcalibur looks like he got knocked out and looted, and is now missing most of his equipment.
Tatsugiri is fine... I actually like their multiple forms quite a bit. Cyclizar works as a pre-evolution of the legendaries but I also wish he was a less ugly color. beyond that he's fine, no notes. Pawmi is conditionally cute but it isn't justified having even one evolution that looks like that, much less two. Jaden is right about Wattrel, it's cute, quirky, and charming, and then it evolves, loses the charm, and gets boring. Squawkabilly is fine... I think it'll grow on me more over time. Flamigo is fine... I think he's stylized strangely enough to justify himself. Klawf is right up there with Orthworm for me, they're both really solid designs, and I love the goofy bug eyes on Klawf especially. the Nacli line is fine. the Glimmet line is fine. Shroodle is gross and has bigtime goop texture, and that is just not necessary for a thing that evolves into Grafaiai. Grafaiai, is just fine, I like it, it can stay. the Fidough line is surprisingly aesthetically strong for basic dog pokemon. why have the Mabosstif line if we have these? the Bramblin line has the lack of differentiation problem again... I want the creators of this gen to pick either Bramblin or Brambleghast and then either make it a single stage evolution, or give it an evolution that actually changes.
anyway... you get the idea. a ton of these designs have flaws that boil down to: make the evolutionary stages look different from one another, or don't have them. tell me what material the pokemon is made of by actually drawing it that way, not just in terms of surface texture, but in terms of the actual shape of the pokemon's body. and design pokemon that look like they could actually live full lives. don't make them be stuck in one pose, don't animate them in ways that imply untrue things about their anatomy, let them move around in a way that makes sense for their bodies.
That’s how i talk about Pokémon BUT if it’s pink it’s immediately 110% cooler
9:25 Jaiden really watched the cutscenes and said “let him die”
8:14 “The Most Plain Ass Bird Pokémon has ever made” Meanwhile, we have stuff like Pidgey and Pidove, which just look like birds more than Pokemon.
Pidgey and Pidove are so much better
Ducklett
My day was just made so much better, i would gladly watch hours of jaiden play games and talk. Congrats on your first sponsor!
first for this channel but yeah still pretty cool
I thought she did not do sponsors? Like she said she would not.
107 likes and only two replies lemme fix that
@@chadgiga-e5lI guess you were wrong 😅
@@kaidenrichards1045I remember in a video how she said she would not do sponsorships.
The most frustrating thing about tier lists is not being able to debate with your favorite creator how WRONG they are lmao
The absolute Clodsire slander followed by immediately putting "cute little guys" Pokemon higher will not go unnoticed.
But he's not little, he's beeg.
But the cute little guys are cute🥰(and they taste good too 😋)
Iron Valiant is definitely S-Tier, best 'mon from this generation if you ask me. As a Gallade fan I could ask for nothing more.
Finally another gallade fan, it is my favorite
Gallade is my 2nd favorite pokemon after Umbreon
The only reason why I got Pokémon Scarlet was because I saw Jaiden play Pokémon Violet on her Subathon and it was a blast!!!
That's the reason?
THAT??!!!
I thought it was because absolutely no one likes ceruledge and the robot animals
@@DragonTheOneDZA Well I guess that’s my second reason
@@DragonTheOneDZA both versions are good
Pokémon Scartlet*
@@DragonTheOneDZAI do I like both of them
I know you said Pokémon that just don't evolve or have a pre-evolution are hard to make, but they did such a good job on Grafaiai, just to give it a pre-evolution anyway.
Yeah... i didn't know it had a prevo until this video, and i'm like "wut?"
@@volbla The second I saw Shroodle in game for the first time it just made me upset.
For real, they just HAD to give this cool monkey an ugly bug-looking pre-evo.
“Bisharp is all about being sleak and quick”
_70 base speed intensifies_
Jaiden hating on the kokopelli is absolutely freaking hilarious and deeply saddening as an Arizona resident at the same time. And for the record, she's absolutely right. The kokopelli is everywhere here.
What is the kokopelli?
@@CarcosaheadI think it’s a Native American trickster deity/spirit of fertility.
@@Carcosahead it's the dude she said Gholdengo looks like. It's pretty common in a lot of tribal art in AZ
Ah yes, “Kilowattrel is the most plain bird Game Freak has ever made” meanwhile pidgey:
There’s literally a flamingo in the same effing gen
@@Abhishek-ue6tjflamigo is so underwhelming 😭
The Idea behind Lokix is more than what many think and the typing fits perfactly with what Lokix is supposed to be. Lokix is a Kamen rider. For those who might not know Kamen Rider is a tokusatsu show similar to power rangers/super sentai but without the mecha final battles. Many Riders before 2000s were solely based on Insects with the first rider Ichigo based on a Grasshopper. Lokix's typing of Bug/Dark reflects the original rider's origin as Kamen Rider Ichigo was original made as a pawn of the villainous organization known as Shocker which you guessed it wanted to take over the world BUT before the brainwashing was complete the Rider was freed and decided to use the power he was given by this evil to fight for Justice thus reflected in its typing of Bug(the grasshopper theming) and Dark(Original meant to be a soldier for evil but now fights for the good.) so Lokix actually is quite more interesting than just a "Chainsaw Grasshopper."
loved the little pokemon animations throughout the video; the bombirdier one was very fun haha
"This guy... looks like a RUclipsr."
-Jaiden, a RUclipsr, explaining why she's putting a Pokémon in D-tier
Says Kilowattrel is the most plain bird Pokemon has made, then proceeds to put Flamigo in B tier.
Flamigo is awesome. Though I admit the design is plain, but good god that thing is a titan killing machine
I think it’s part of Flamigo’s charm. This plain looking bird that is secretly good in battle. Them giving it to Larry(the one ordinary man in the lineup) was genius
Well, at least Flamigo kind of looks like a boxing glove?
@@InktheImpassive ...how???
@ImaginaryJ-km7cr I actually don't know. From a certain angle, it's body is like a boxing glove. Made me wonder about how it's flying fighting type.
Jaiden: *I don’t like the cute little guys tbh* (smth along these lines)
Jaiden’s reaction to Tarountula + Smoliv: 🤩
Shroodle looks like it would explode into paint if you threw it at a wall, and I love it for that
Finally someone who understands the perfect concept of dudunsparce! 😂
Ikr!!!!
I mean yeah boi is content with being a flat snek
It's comedy gold
Quite literally my favorite Pokémon
I like it as a joke, but I really wish Dunsparce got something cool or graceful instead of MORE DERP. Not too upset, just a missed opportunity.
me after seeing the thumbnail: *grabs pitchfork*
me after seeing this 2:34 : *calmly puts down pitchfork*
I may be cosplaying as Iron Valiant this year but my number #1 is Spidops. I've wanted an Ogre Spider forever and making them Solid Snake is just wonderful. Silk Trap's fun too!
...It's to the point where I wrote a fat portion of their Bulbapedia page. I may be obsessed.
Spidops doesn't get much respect because it's early route and evolves from tarountula.
@@liammccartney6754 And because it has a lower BST than the Starter's MID-EVOS.
Spidops deserves an Evolution that resurrects its Tarountula traits and gives it good Stats, a usable Mono-Bug sounds so fun! Plus, the early-Route Bugs DO traditionally have three Stages.
Perhaps it would be one of those prickly spinning wheels used for sewing, to continue Spidops's marionette theme and Tarountula's yarn abdomen.
I got a shiny Spidops and it's Spiderman colors
Question, am I the only person that reads the name "Iron Valliant" in a way that reminds a battle cry or the name of a gladiator being announced?
@@BJGvideosSame… I hunted for one and he literally ambushed me from a tree. The only time I was okay with a Spidops ambushing me
Jaiden: Puts Sprigatito line in A Tier
Me: FINALLY.
Jaiden referring to all the Pokémon as “this guy” is so real
I honestly got way too excited to see how Jaiden would advertise her first sponsor congrats Jaiden 🎉
If it was anyone other than Jaiden putting clodsire below S tier I would be preparing for war
Allright do it then clodsire is F tier it's basically quagsire but lying on his belly and brown. It's stats are way too low just F clodsire.
@@dennisposthuma *I'm gonna get you this night*
@@-NotSomeone- then you better hurry up because where I live it's already less than an hour before midnight.
@@dennisposthuma It got the spiks :D
@@dennisposthuma alright then get ready dennis your about to have a baby brother
Tinkaton will alway be God tier in my opinion
based
Tinkaton is literally the best Pokémon in Generation 9, strong (with its OP move lol don't look at its atk stats) cute and with a good typing, how could you not love it?
Literally my favorite gen 9 mon
My mom really likes Kokopelli and he's all over my house, so I, too, grew up seeing a lot of him. I never saw Gholdengo as Kokopelli. I always thought he looked like the string cheese man. (Just looked up a picture and apparently I'm not the only one.
Baxcalibler totally knows it's not as popular as the other pseudo legendaies, and works twice as hard because of it! I couldn't help but slowly grow respect for it. Shiny hunted a Frigibax for my post-game team.
I'm sorry Jaiden, but I CANNOT CONDONE this Armarouge slander.
🙏🙏🙏
Facts
She forgot his arm fused into a literal canon. 😢
I don't think I've ever had such conflicting feelings on a tier list before~ xD I agree with so much and disagree with maybe an equal amount~ Still, always fun to get your opinions on things and I enjoyed hearing them!
EDIT: Also, we all know that the real reason you don't like Oinkologne is because it reminds you too much of Sue E~
THE SHEER DISRESPECT FOR KILOWATTREL AND CETITAN THOUGH D
You really got to the point, and I respect that. I would've listened to an extended version though.
"Then it turns to wattrel, who is one of the most plain ass birds pokemone has ever made"
(a few seconds later)
"Ill give flamigo b tier"
I have to agree about Armarouge and Ceruledge, the sword Ghost is definitely cooler then it’s twin the football player with cannons.
Yeah it's just a megaman villian
0:37 It has happened! Jaiden has gotten her first sponsor! Celebration time!
Jaiden put 2/3 of the Pokemon on this list that are in my party in F tier, and my least favorite Pokemon of all time in A tier, and that's the type of anger you can only get from a tier list video. I forgive her, though, because she's one of my comfort RUclipsrs that I go to when the vibes are off.
Paldea truly has some Pokémon of all time within the island.
Only Jaiden casually returns (on 2nd channel) after 3 months with a Pokemon tier list, I respect the bravery
When I saw flittle I got so excited because it reminded me of Ponyo and I loved it. I didn’t look up evolutions or anything so when my flittle named Ponyo evolved into an ostrich I was a little upset
Can’t wait to see Quaquaval in the anime
I’ve never heard Jaiden do a sponsor in a video before 😮
I literally gasped when it happened lol
@8:36 Is that the Bogey theme from Custom Robo? OMG the nostalgia hit like a truck!
I needed this ❤
Rip that one Jaiden video talking about how she doesn't do sponsorships unless they truely interest her.
I know next to nothing about Pokémon, but Jaiden talking about Pokémon works so well for me
Excellent 2nd Channel video. Overall, the Pokémon in Scarlet and Violet are insanely well-designed, save for Flamigo, which is literally just a flamingo that Game Freak made slightly cartoonish. Your first sponsor went well. I can’t wait for your plushie ranking videos for the other gens, which I really enjoyed and watched the whole way thru multiple times, in case you didn’t read my comment on that video
Flamigo is shaped like a punching glove and which is why it’s fighting type. Stop dissing my boy.
I got *_Personally_* offended by that Miraidon _SLANDER_
After my Miraidon could fight, I named him Agias and *_I LOVE HIM_*
Miraidon is mid
@@sallytheuselessbird Miraidon is the best Pokemon and i will die on that hill
oh hey i named my koraidon agias too
Jaiden: the just a little guy's are not for me
Jaiden: proceeds to A tier a bunch of little guys
You should do more tier lists, but you go backwards since this one is paldea, which means next would be galar then alola and so fourth (or back)
This is just a suggestion but I think it would be fun
My favourite pokemon ever is literally Skeledirge, like fr! That Pokemon was made to be awesome! 🔥
Can we talk about the Blade and Kafka Jaiden we just have been blessed with?
Awesome edits! I kind of wish there were more sound effects but ultamitely it's really nice!
Jaiden: Your not gonna get me with saying it's cute
Also Jaiden: I like this one it's cute
This stream was fun to watch! Definitely one of the best to watch during Subathon :)
OMG I WAS WONDERING I WAS JUST ABT TO COMMENT WHEN AND WHERE THIS STREAM WAS but sadly I was in subathon for a bit but then gave up lol (it was a busy time for me)
@@Undead_noob Aw, I'm sorry you missed it, it was really fun :)
@@Fallen_Melon_Star its okay :') but thank you i bet it was! :DDD
9:55 Wasn't Kokopelli the inspiration for Celebi (especially for Beta Celebi) ?
Never thought about Gholdengo being similar to it, but the ressemblance is there (except for the flute thing)
I have a connection to the Pawmi line…..mines name is Sony and he clutched a lot of fights for me on my journey. For that I will always love that line. He’s got the Reliable Partner title and it’s so true
SKELEDIRGE GETTING THE RESPECT IT DESERVES. Based jaiden thank you ❤❤
brute bonnet > swamp amugos > ungabungos (we got a leaked screen shot of ungabungos without the name so someone said in a fake leak it's called ungabungus which is just such a great name)
banger of a video as always lets go
I only came her to see her opinion on my dear Meowscarada... im so happy she likes it :)
This is the most "I'm gonna do a tierlist just so my chat will stfu about it" video ever and I loved it
I'm so glad tandemaus and maushold ranked high those are my FAVORITE pokemon oh my god
Yippee on the first sponsor and also on being nominated for streamys as a Vtuber. Not even a year and already killing it \o/.
Also @ 7:55 "L Take....I'm going to ban you"
LMAO that's the best response, didn't even hesitate to say it.
*puts the tinkaton line anywhere below S tier*
“I just wanna talk to ‘em”
off topic - Jaden's depiction of Kafka is just perfection
Jaiden: Cute little guys aren't for me
*Me remembering her obsession with swoop*
3:02 Jaiden out of context
I don’t know how long it’s been since I’ve heard Jaiden swear but clearly it’s been a while, because “Shit-Bug” caught me off guard
Does anyone else get very excited when Jaiden uploads?
Shockingly I completely respect this list. I don't agree with it mind you, (Nacli line, Sandy Shocks, and Revavroom notably) but I can see where you're coming from with all of them
the pawniard line evolutions are based on chess pieces of pawn,bishop, and king.
And we all know the king piece ain't slick at all...
Dude moves one tile and 99% of the time is for running away from problems
She had such interesting and unique opinions and although I don't agree with here on some but I can see where she is coming from on some of them
Jaiden doing an ad is a first. Just like Sykkuno.
Jaiden is doing an ad first. And it’s made the people who made genshin impact. I hate them now.
@@_brodmack_k very original . If you dont want to help jaiden you can shut up . Now i shall enjoy honkai starrail and help jaiden pay her employees
@@CookieTaigachill
spidops is based on an ogre spider I'm pretty sure, and to their credit he looks a lot like it but i definitely think they could have designed the legs better since the actual spider's legs are very spindly
I love Pokémon scartlet!!! Scartlet is my favorite color!!!
The roller coaster of Fuecoco (A) to Crocalor (D) to finally Skeledirge (S) is too damn accurate
Omg i never thought she would get a sponsor from Hoyoverse thats so cool 😭
2:21 "The cute little guys are not for me"
Me, remembering Jaiden's plush tier list and specifically Joltik: "She lies as easily as she breathes..."
FINALLY. SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS THE PERFECTION THAT IS SLITHER WING
Listening to the Double Dash credits ost was a nostalgia trip I didn't know I needed.
i like how you can see the chat start freaking out after she put Sprigatito in A
Awesome video! We have very different takes on some pokemon but its all good. Also loved the use of the cafe music from Custom Robo, hopefully someone else recognizes it too, one of the best GameCube games!
Pokemon scarlet gets such special treatment solely from the paradox forms. On one hand you have awesome prehistoric lifeforms and on the other you have i robot
i love tier lists about "scartlet" and violet
oh boy I sure do love pokemon scartlet, with the cool lizard thing ckorideon and cute starters like sprigateeto and fwekoko !
Wait… Is this Jaiden’s first sponsorship? 😮
I think so. I officially hate the people behind Genshin Impact now
So cool
I knew something was new
Missed opportunity to give cyclizar branch evolutions of an electric dragon and fighting dragon type, to kind of like hint even more to his past and future forms
FUECOCO IS HUMANITY’s GREATEST ACHIEVEMENT TO DATE
I think the paradox magneton is a result of Pokémon legends arceus where all the distortions brought em into the past
Jaiden is a based Volcarona enjoyer and for that, she deserves S tier
My tier list would be a bit different then Jaiden’s tier list. But we all have our own options of the Pokémons on Scarlet and Violet. I respect Jaiden’s honesty of each Pokémon. Of why she likes it and why she doesn’t.
I was dreading Squawkabilly being ranked low, but I'll happily accept B tier
Interesting tier list, always making good content Jaiden!