The Peculiar SECRETS of LORD BYRON'S BURIAL Vault

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  • Опубликовано: 20 апр 2024
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    It has been two hundred years since the romantic poet Lord Byron died. After his death in April 1824, his remains were repatriated to England, where he was interred within his family burial vault in Hucknall in Nottinghamshire. In 1938, his burial vault was examined, and his coffin was found to have been opened. In this video, I explore the whole story of his repatriation, burial, and the exploration of the vault-a story that includes a rather peculiar and lurid twist.
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Комментарии • 172

  • @Heidi_Bradshaw
    @Heidi_Bradshaw Месяц назад +54

    Newstead Abbey is just 20 minutes up the A60 from where I live. A fascinating place to wander around. My daughter and I will be taking the bus journey to Lord Byron’s grave soon, to pay our respects. Thankyou for the video, Allan.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Месяц назад +7

      It is a lovely house with so much of interest. It’s years since I’ve been, but I should make an effort to visit.

    • @kithale316
      @kithale316 Месяц назад +6

      I took roses to his burial site in Hucknall when I lived in Derbyshire 20 years ago. There is a stone for his daughter Ada too

    • @user-bl6vb3vk5q
      @user-bl6vb3vk5q Месяц назад

      I would love to live in england everywhere you walk is history even walking in fields history beautiful

  • @sixeses
    @sixeses Месяц назад +35

    Thanks Allan. My favorite Byron, "She walks in beauty like the night"

  • @zachm.6572
    @zachm.6572 Месяц назад +27

    Babe, wake up, a new Allan Barton - the Antiquary video just dropped.

  • @Born2Rune
    @Born2Rune Месяц назад +9

    As a Hucknall resident, he is a source of Pride. Having Ada there as well, as she is a personal hero of mine is just icing. Thanks for making this video.
    Newstead Abbey is a beautiful place and is fantastic to have a wander around during a nice summer day.

  • @damonderby
    @damonderby Месяц назад +5

    Born and raised in Hucknall and knew Byron was buried there but never knew much else. Thank you for teaching about my home towns history

  • @jorybennett5932
    @jorybennett5932 Месяц назад +9

    Byron had a Cornish paternal grandmother in Sophia Byron (née Trevanion). She was born in Westminster in 1730 but her father was of the Trevanion family who owned Caerhays Castle. Caerhays is famous on the south coast of Cornwall for its sub-tropical gardens.

  • @frippp66
    @frippp66 Месяц назад +28

    Re: Byron's appendage - sounds like a dodgy story to me - but Byron himself would surely have been most amused by this rumour

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Месяц назад +15

      I think he would. I hesitated to address it to be honest, but I could guarantee someone in the comments box would bring it up, so I bit the bullet! 😂

    • @FreeSpirit47
      @FreeSpirit47 Месяц назад +2

      @@allanbarton LOL @ "bring it up". 😋

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Месяц назад +2

      @@FreeSpirit47 😂🤣

  • @carrie4696
    @carrie4696 Месяц назад +25

    Well I wasn’t expecting that on a Sunday 😂
    Thanks for a giggle, all the best.

  • @sandylaws8648
    @sandylaws8648 Месяц назад +5

    My grandfather's name was Byron. He lived near Doncaster.

  • @deanedge5988
    @deanedge5988 Месяц назад +17

    Gosh I never knew such intimate material survived - Byron is so overdue rediscovery. Just read any random canto of Don Juan.

  • @peterscrafton5212
    @peterscrafton5212 Месяц назад +21

    This week, the Earl of Lytton, who sits as a crossbencher in the House of Lords, raised the question of the unredeemed pledge of HM Government , made in 1958, to move the statue of the poet, currently sitting on a traffic island in Park Lane, to Hyde Park. Lord Lytton is the current President of the Byron Society and a great, great great grandson of the poet, to whom he bears a considerable resemblance. The Byron Society is raising funds for the move, which received not only support across the House, but also the agreement of the Government. The Earl, an active member of the House, is also related to Ada Lovelace, the 19th century pioneer of computing, and also a prominent suffragette, who was imprisoned several times for her activities.

    • @indigocheetah4172
      @indigocheetah4172 Месяц назад +4

      The suburb of Lytton in Brisbane was named in honour of Sir Edward Bulwer Lytton, Secretary of State for the Colonies in the British government. Bulwer Island is also named for Sir Edward Lytton. Fort Lytton is one of several coastal fortifications built along Australia's coast in the 19th century to safeguard shipping lanes and ports from possible enemy raids. From 1881 until the 1930s, Fort Lytton was Brisbane's front line of defence and is regarded as the birthplace of Queensland's military history.

    • @dianespears6057
      @dianespears6057 Месяц назад +3

      Thank you for this comment.

    • @antonyreyn
      @antonyreyn Месяц назад +3

      @@indigocheetah4172 fun fact my Cousin moved to Cairns in the 70s his mother was Pauline Byron from Nottingham so there is some Byron DNA in Queensland. Cheers from Sherwood

    • @indigocheetah4172
      @indigocheetah4172 Месяц назад +2

      @@antonyreyn, that's a lovely town when I visited Cairns years ago. Maybe we have a few poets in Queensland. Cairns is renowned for the fishing and the reef. We lived in Sussex for six years and I loved living there. A beautiful country, best wishes from Brisbane.

    • @user-wx8uz5js9c
      @user-wx8uz5js9c Месяц назад

      9​@@indigocheetah4172

  • @vinceplatini
    @vinceplatini Месяц назад +22

    A very careful and detailed investigation! Thanks!🙏🏻

  • @archiebald4717
    @archiebald4717 Месяц назад +11

    Lady Ada Lovelace was a pioneer of computing.

    • @djquinn11
      @djquinn11 Месяц назад +1

      Interesting! Thanks

  • @sethcopeland4362
    @sethcopeland4362 Месяц назад +16

    Appreciate you going into the deets of Byron's postmortem member. Too many historians act like they're above these things, but if you won't talk about Carmen 16, you don't get to speak on Catullus.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Месяц назад +16

      😂. I did hesitate to address it, but knew someone would bring it up in the comments box if I didn’t. It is a load of hogwash, but a curious aside.

    • @carolinegreenwell9086
      @carolinegreenwell9086 Месяц назад +7

      @@allanbarton why let reality spoil a good salacious story

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Месяц назад +6

      @@carolinegreenwell9086 I know, it does make me laugh.

    • @djquinn11
      @djquinn11 Месяц назад +3

      @@carolinegreenwell9086: Hahaha! That’s a great quote, mind if I steal it?

  • @lindageorge8209
    @lindageorge8209 Месяц назад +6

    How did they get such heavy coffins down there, and manage to arrange them neatly, when the vault was so small?

  • @cherrytomato6139
    @cherrytomato6139 Месяц назад +12

    I didn't know they basically bled him to death. He was young and strong and yet they managed. Dark and tragic end of a greatly talented man.

    • @johnfury6481
      @johnfury6481 Месяц назад +5

      Similar end came to George Washington. So tragic and unnecessary.

  • @MyGreatAuntFanny
    @MyGreatAuntFanny Месяц назад +11

    It's a shame the reporter who wrote the scurrilous article didn't use the same investigative rigour as our own Antiquary!

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Месяц назад +4

      Thanks for the compliment ☺️

  • @katb.6132
    @katb.6132 Месяц назад +14

    Thank you. His was a bright light that burned too fast.

    • @IrishAnnie
      @IrishAnnie Месяц назад +4

      Poor man. Couldn’t be left alone in death. Interesting video. Thank you so much…he was so handsome and talented.

  • @joannecaligiuri2565
    @joannecaligiuri2565 Месяц назад +6

    Love any burial vault videos…..thanks😊

  • @herschelmayo2727
    @herschelmayo2727 Месяц назад +6

    Victims of arsenic poisoning are unusually well preserved corpses because of the chemical in their tissues. Such preservation, in this case, seems odd, considering the length of time between his death, and burial. Also, the recurring illness is suspect, too, and is a red flag even fot modern forensic pathologists.

  • @knutanderswik7562
    @knutanderswik7562 Месяц назад +11

    Fearless as always, soldiering on without so much as a snicker. I don't think I have laughed so much at one of your videos since the one about the medieval mechanical gesticulating rood. Bravo!

  • @CrowSkeleton
    @CrowSkeleton Месяц назад +10

    Cool that we have the laurels! I admit I laughed at the name of the MP in context.

  • @user-cy1ri4wj4b
    @user-cy1ri4wj4b Месяц назад +5

    “Mad, bad, and dangerous to know.” Oddly, however, Lord Byron could be quite prudish about certain things, like his disapproval of the waltz, which he found scandalous.
    One of the striking passages in George Borrow’s wonderful picaresque novel “Lavengro” concerns the passage of Lord Byron’s funeral procession through London.

  • @dianespears6057
    @dianespears6057 Месяц назад +3

    My goodness. Whoever knew all this information. Thank you for the video.

  • @rosemaryhamilton7428
    @rosemaryhamilton7428 Месяц назад +6

    Loved the video as I live in Nottingham and have visited Newstead many times , but just for info Colwick is pronounced with a silent W so as Colick, Colwick Hall was a beautiful place but sadly the last I heard it was a restaurant ,I used to walk around the race course when my Father lived near the end of the race course , cant wait for the next video ,hugs from Nottingham

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for the hint, and glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @dorothywillis1
    @dorothywillis1 Месяц назад +4

    I think Lord Byron would thoroughly enjoy hearing about the enhancement of his "reputation" by Mr. Holsworth. (What a name!) In fact, I think he would definitely ROTFL. Thank you for the interesting video. I am always amazed at how they shoved the coffins into these vaults so untidily. But of course the light was poor and the atmosphere must have been terrible.

  • @inisipisTV
    @inisipisTV Месяц назад +6

    Truly, reality is strange. Stranger than fiction. - Lord Baron.

  • @hiviolet007
    @hiviolet007 Месяц назад +6

    Haha! I think you are correct in your theory. Holdsworth must have been known to tell a bawdy tale in his day. I’m sure this one made the rounds in the local pubs.

  • @jilltagmorris
    @jilltagmorris Месяц назад +15

    Thank you again DR. I always love seeing a new video from you! 😊 ❤

  • @a24-45
    @a24-45 Месяц назад +6

    So... the vicar started the excavation at 4pm... and went back for a second look at midnight(!!). I realise that he didn't want to share the experience with anyone outside of his chosen companions; but, doing it in sworn secrecy, after hours, and even visiting the tomb at midnight, adds quite the C19th gothic sensibility to the event --- an aspect which would have very much appealed to Byron, who loved a good ghost story.

  • @annettewillis2797
    @annettewillis2797 Месяц назад +2

    Brilliant and informative as always Allan. I do love the speculation concerning Byron's member and a claim to have actually 'seen' it. Almost has a Victorian feel! I do enjoy your exploration of vaults!

  • @bertrumrumrum8797
    @bertrumrumrum8797 Месяц назад +3

    Amazing to see the photos from 2014 - I didn't know about these or access having been gained to the vault.

  • @StevenJeNova
    @StevenJeNova Месяц назад +4

    Interesting! There are a lot of people in that vault!

  • @1minigrem
    @1minigrem Месяц назад +3

    Your film came up in my feed, I enjoyed it so much I subscribed to your channel and your magazine. ❤

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Месяц назад +2

      I am so pleased you enjoyed it, thank you so much for the subscriptions.

  • @pixbychris3182
    @pixbychris3182 Месяц назад +8

    Ages since I went to Newstead. Fascinating video as usual thanks Allan

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Месяц назад +5

      Me too, probably twenty years since I was last there. A lovely house and great with so many monastic remains. I should film a video there.

  • @stepps511
    @stepps511 Месяц назад +3

    What a brilliant video! Thank you for this very in-depth look into the burial of this well- touted romantic poet and (apparent) Bon Vivant. It only serves to further my ongoing fascinaton with all things British! Bravo, Allan!

  • @liketheroman
    @liketheroman Месяц назад +5

    Love this video! This Byron 200 mania is making me want to visit Nottingham when I visit England later this year. Is Hucknall and Newstead Abbey easy to visit by train or bus from Nottingham City?

    • @antonyreyn
      @antonyreyn Месяц назад +4

      Yes train and bus easily but probably best by Tram from the market square. Cheers from Sherwood

    • @liketheroman
      @liketheroman Месяц назад +1

      @@antonyreyn thank you! Both are accessible by tram?

    • @antonyreyn
      @antonyreyn Месяц назад +3

      @@liketheroman no just Hucknall church by tram bus or train but it's not far from hucknall to Newstead so bus or taxi from there cheers

    • @liketheroman
      @liketheroman Месяц назад +2

      @@antonyreyn brilliant, thanks!

  • @marilynwoolford-chandler1161
    @marilynwoolford-chandler1161 Месяц назад +3

    Great video

  • @Chloe_Stella
    @Chloe_Stella Месяц назад +3

    Great commentary.

  • @hughmarloweverest1684
    @hughmarloweverest1684 Месяц назад +5

    Thank you. Currently, my Will has me being cremated. My ashes dispensed with in a prescribed fashion. This video further endorses that idea.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Месяц назад +3

      Understandable. Glad you liked the video!

    • @bahoonies
      @bahoonies Месяц назад +2

      What, Sir? You would have yourself cremated and deny me the scholarly pleasure of opening the vault and examining your mortal remains at an unspecified date in the future? I beg you to reconsider. Your humble servant, Canon Thomas Barber.

  • @arrasonline
    @arrasonline Месяц назад +2

    Brilliant as always...thank you so much for your dedicated and careful work.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!

  • @annieryan7749
    @annieryan7749 8 дней назад +1

    Hi Allan, I just wanted to say that I absolutely love your channel. Your videos are so interesting, and I look forward to each one. Also, I love the music you start and finish with, a lovely touch!

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  День назад +1

      Thanks very much! I’m glad you’re enjoying my work 😊

  • @HypnoPol1499
    @HypnoPol1499 Месяц назад +2

    As an art historian I really enjoyed this presentation. Thank you. Now subscribed.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for subscribing, glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @alanaitcheson9403
    @alanaitcheson9403 Месяц назад +2

    Allan, that was one well researched, written and presented article, Thank you so much. If Arnold Houldsworth had opened Lord Byron's triple shell lead lined coffin, there would have been a hell of lot splintering of the coffin top. But like all good tales people will run with it, without needing any evidence.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Месяц назад +1

      People will be people 😆. Glad you enjoyed the video.

  • @carolescutt2257
    @carolescutt2257 Месяц назад +5

    So looking for to this upload one of my favourites 😊

  • @charlesachurch7265
    @charlesachurch7265 Месяц назад +2

    Great presentation thanks xxx

  • @user-uj7dm8jy6z
    @user-uj7dm8jy6z Месяц назад +3

    great stuff as always, thankyou

  • @chrishall62
    @chrishall62 Месяц назад +3

    Interesting video though I can't really see why antiquaries in days gone by were so fascinated by opening coffins and looking at long-dead corpses! It seems very morbid to me

  • @educanassa100
    @educanassa100 Месяц назад +2

    Amazing video

  • @laurag7295
    @laurag7295 Месяц назад +2

    Thoroughly enjoyable, thank you!😊❤

  • @mrbojangles8133
    @mrbojangles8133 Месяц назад +8

    we currently have the 13th Baron by the way

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Месяц назад +6

      With plenty of living heirs to the title.

  • @marthavanbeek-putters
    @marthavanbeek-putters Месяц назад +2

    Thank you for this interesting story you share with us. I’ve been to the church where his are now resting. A beautiful church. I’ve also been to Porto Venere Grotto di Byron. Martha

  • @Crub837
    @Crub837 Месяц назад +5

    Thanks!

  • @helenaopal
    @helenaopal Месяц назад +2

    Fascinating!!!!

  • @NinaHansen2008
    @NinaHansen2008 Месяц назад +2

    Thank you!

  • @SeanScot36
    @SeanScot36 Месяц назад +2

    I was at the same secondary school as Lord Byron, I have read about Byron but I can’t remember if he recorded his thoughts about the school which was a horrible place.

  • @sgtcrabfat
    @sgtcrabfat Месяц назад +2

    "When my soul wings her flight, through the endels (?) of night and my corpse shall recline on its bere, when you pass by my tomb, where my ashes consume, all i ask, all I want is a tear" Byron. ( sorry for misspellings)

  • @HughJason
    @HughJason Месяц назад +9

    Are you sure that the voyage from Zante to England only took three days ?

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Месяц назад +11

      No, but the contemporary source said it did.

    • @genebruce6321
      @genebruce6321 Месяц назад +8

      It is about 3000 miles. By sail, probably closer to three weeks.

  • @FiveLiver
    @FiveLiver Месяц назад +7

    'The Rest is History' are currently doing a series on Byron, which has primed me for this lavishly illustrated episode.

  • @hyperballadbradx6486
    @hyperballadbradx6486 Месяц назад +19

    Seymour Cox..... 😅

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Месяц назад +6

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @knutanderswik7562
      @knutanderswik7562 Месяц назад +3

      Oh dear, I had to replay that to make sure I heard right

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Месяц назад +2

      @@knutanderswik7562 😂😂😂

    • @helza
      @helza Месяц назад +5

      I had to rewind too to make sure I heard right. Edit: omg I just looked it up and he was actually Seymour Cocks!!

    • @djquinn11
      @djquinn11 Месяц назад +1

      You can’t make this stuff up..
      Did I also here that the photographer’s name was Bullocks?

  • @zero_bs_tolerance8646
    @zero_bs_tolerance8646 Месяц назад +2

    Thank you.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Месяц назад +1

      You're welcome! Thanks for watching.

  • @brober
    @brober Месяц назад +5

    Glad I'm a nobody. I'll be allowed to rest in peace.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Месяц назад +4

      There’s a lot to be said for it. Woodland burial ground for me, none of this storage in rooms. It’s horrible.

  • @ChucklesMcGurk
    @ChucklesMcGurk Месяц назад +11

    How jolly life is for the upper class, you can be poor yet still gad about the continent living the high life, every gesture is heroic and every word you utter is feted as genius. Bleeeaaagh!

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Месяц назад +9

      It wasn’t exactly poverty was it? He was enormously in debt, but the debt was financed by the property. It’s the sort of poverty I’d be quite happy to live with!

    • @AwfulDog1
      @AwfulDog1 Месяц назад

      Sounds like he died at the right time before the debt killed him

  • @GrumpyOldTroll
    @GrumpyOldTroll Месяц назад +1

    Thank you very much, Mr Barton, for another very interesting video. May I suggest, however, looking into recording equipment or techniques, or both, which might allow your voiceover to be clearer and crisper?

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you, we do actually have a professional recording set up. I wonder if it might be your speaker that’s the issue?

    • @GrumpyOldTroll
      @GrumpyOldTroll Месяц назад +1

      @@allanbarton Might be; makes me wonder if anyone else has this problem. I don't know really know how to describe it other than as the sound being dampened or dulled rather than crisp and clear. It's not a problem I generally notice when listening to spoken RUclips videos or online radio stations.

    • @okiejammer2736
      @okiejammer2736 Месяц назад +2

      Did not notice an audio issue.

  • @johnfury6481
    @johnfury6481 Месяц назад +6

    My 15th cousin.

  • @andrewvoros4037
    @andrewvoros4037 25 дней назад

    Interesting that the wine glass at the end has a gilded opening to keep the glass from getting stuck to the table !

  • @dorothysutton5162
    @dorothysutton5162 Месяц назад +2

  • @jamesallison4875
    @jamesallison4875 Месяц назад +2

    My interest is purely morbid curiosity! Hahaha 😂

  • @ludovica8221
    @ludovica8221 Месяц назад +2

    👍

  • @romo9122
    @romo9122 27 дней назад

    The local M.P. surely was disappointed he didn't get a look at Byron's bit. His name suggests he would be partial

  • @_to_-cn8wd
    @_to_-cn8wd 14 дней назад

    He was buried better than his illegitimate infant daughter Allegra. She's just buried at the gate in an unmarked grave in the churchyard of St Anne's Church in Harrow on the HIll. There's a little plaque on the lowest part of the church wall.

  • @kyrab7914
    @kyrab7914 Месяц назад +2

    😂 It sounds like Hollsworth might've heard the tale from Betteridge or maybe a friend of a friend situation. Still, the actual history is fascinating, and I agree, Byron would've had a good chuckle at the tall tale.

  • @Nora-xk5tf
    @Nora-xk5tf 5 дней назад

    Why on earth were people permitted to disturb Byron's coffin and examine the Poet's mortal remains. I thought the person's family had to be notified and present for entire process and witnesses reburial. The poet had to have relatives alive. Wow. In the USA the tombs of Pres, Abraham Lincoln had to be moved, reburied once his finished Tomb was completed. Apparently in such cases The coffin gets opened to ensure it's the person. My point is Lincoln's son Robert HAD to be present. Wow. RIP Bryon. I know sometimes coffins with time collapse needing repair. Often when famous onlookers gather to witness. But to comment on the man's family jewels is weirder than weird. (IMO)

  • @allanbarton
    @allanbarton  Месяц назад +2

    theantiquary.online/

  • @clintmacarthur7895
    @clintmacarthur7895 22 дня назад

    I’m a little confused,. The coronet on top of the coffin is a Dukes coronet.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  22 дня назад

      It is isn't a ducal coronet, it is a baron's coronet minus the silver balls - they have simply fallen off, but you can see where they were once attached. The coronet on Lady Lovelace's coffin is that of a countess.

  • @Appophust
    @Appophust Месяц назад +2

    Seymour Cox. Just saying.

  • @thesilversurfer7136
    @thesilversurfer7136 Месяц назад +5

    Bloodletting…whose idea was that?

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Месяц назад +5

      The ancient Greeks, it was to balance the humours. Not one of their best ideas, but one that was stubbornly persistent.

    • @poddy6530
      @poddy6530 Месяц назад +1

      Big pharma ?

  • @jldisme
    @jldisme Месяц назад

  • @StrawB0ss
    @StrawB0ss Месяц назад

    Wait... who was that MP?

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Месяц назад +1

      Mr Seymour Cocks. You heard it correctly the first time. 😂

  • @user-qs7gx7rp7m
    @user-qs7gx7rp7m 11 дней назад

    As a CanUk from the frozen north, I can say with a certainty that the lenght of a penis is extremely variable and entirely dependent on temperature in the room.

  • @cesarbugarini499
    @cesarbugarini499 Месяц назад

    Hmmm bd gang🥵

  • @LancetFencing
    @LancetFencing 26 дней назад

    Greeks should have traded his body for the Elgin Marbles

  • @merikatools568
    @merikatools568 Месяц назад

    So Byron had a hawg

  • @Lemma01
    @Lemma01 Месяц назад +1

    Seymour Cox? Seriously? 😂😂😂

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Месяц назад

      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Cocks

    • @Lemma01
      @Lemma01 Месяц назад

      @allanbarton Who more suitable could preside over a ceremonial peep at Byron's pet python?

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  Месяц назад +1

      Real life imitating art!

  • @MrButtonpresser
    @MrButtonpresser Месяц назад +1

    I think Holdsworth was just being a bit of a di….

  • @robbicu
    @robbicu Месяц назад +7

    Seymore Cox is about the gayest name I can ever think of.

  • @talpark8796
    @talpark8796 Месяц назад +3

    i knew that this would be awesomely swell
    tyvm for another upload
    🦩🇨🇦😁

  • @stefanwild326
    @stefanwild326 Месяц назад +1

  • @BeeNotDismayed
    @BeeNotDismayed Месяц назад +8

    Despite the careful wording of the title, miscreants like myself have an uncanny sense for meaty discussions.
    🫴

  • @jldrake3424
    @jldrake3424 Месяц назад +2