to be fair - hana no asukagumi does have 2 OVA anime adaptations. I've seen them but haven't read the series so don't know about how faithful they are though
A certain Floridian anituber did several videos on the whole Hana to Asuka Gumi franchise and his "hunt for the elusive OVA" but yeah no tv anime to adapt all those 27 volumes of manga, just a little teaser.
@@ebifuon6776the shonen artist should get copyrighted from plagiarizing shoujo, I mean look at JJK. Gojo and Geto breakup scene is the same exact copy-paste from a fricking BL manga!😂🤣👏
Lmao I remember reading a few shojos and realizing other shounen works later had similarities with them. My first thought being “There is no freaking way that mangaka DID NOT read this shojo” it’s mostly female shounen mangakas that it happens with
People really just have very faulty preconceived notions about demographics. Thinking that all shojo is just sappy romance or that every seinen is just gritty action is really dumb. People surprised that Cowboy Bebop is a shojo has the same energy as people surprised that Kaguya-sama is seinen or that aot or csm is shonen.
“I think…. I wanna respect women now…????” 🤣🤣😭😭😭 I love these detailed deep-dives! Please keep them coming! 🩷🩷 Also Colleen, I would absolutely LOVE IT if you could one day make a video covering horror master Junji Ito’s “Tomie”, a Shoujo horror! Ito actually has several Shoujo horror works, with “Dissolving Classroom” even being a Josei! Ppl seem to think that Shoujo/Josei can’t be horror either 😭
I actually did think about doing a Tomie video recently because I finally read it. Although I don't know if I enjoyed its message/themes that much so the video would be semi-negative which is why I'm contemplating if I'd wanna do it or not.
But don't think TT guys have been disrespectful about shoujo?? Gigguk often gets excited about new shoujo titles and some of Joey's favourite series are shoujo/josei as well
@@dandeliondot Its definitely meant to be tt with the trashcan literally on the table as a reference to either their sign or the box they use as a kind of randomizer every now and then. I dont think they are flat out disrespectful of shoujosei in the usual sense, but can be kind of dismissive in cases, probably not even necessary intentional. E.g. Garnt truthfully is excited, always ends up saying "what a cute little show" and then never mentions it again, when a shoujo pops up in his seasonal anime overview, which can come off as its not taken serious, boxed in or perhaps slightly belittling. When he once discussed the best romances, the few shoujo in there were naturally mostly only stuff like fruits basket, which he proceeded to claim is the best romance and didnt elaborate at all. They also once did an episode talking about 3x3s of their guests and when their friend and youtuber Emirichu's came on, full of iirc only shoujo, they basically stamped it off as very fitting for her and wholesome, but not talked about it much at all. The only time i remember Garnt putting a shoujosei in his best anime of the year was maybe banana fish. In their videos of top lists of manga/anime they never dive into the shows of these demographics either. And moments when a new shoujo is talked about in recent years they or rather Garnt didnt like it, which is unfortunate (e.g. Yamada lv999) Now, all of this sounds as bad faith on my part or insinuating they might even lie, but as mentioned i actually dont think its for reasons as them disliking the complete demographics specifically. It seems more likely that they dont think their viewers are interested or watched much of these shows to further a "discussion" paired with the facts that younger Garnt didnt watch/finish many older shoujosei and doesnt really talk much about older shows nowadays, regardless of type, focusing on new stuff. Connor doesnt care for many anime in general and isnt into romance portrayed in the medium, which is most of the more popular titles of these demographics probably reaching his ears, as well as not reading much manga. Joey for one indeed said on multiple occasions that he knows all kinds of series, even on his own channel, commenting on glass mask and similar. Though not burnt off of everything animanga, the time when he read or watched these is by now many years ago, so he doesnt remember much as he said himself and isnt into the medium as much these days. So its lower interest on their behalf combined with potentially less interest from their audience being perceived as the kind of shonen fan stereotype i assume. Not that one cant critisize them for certain aspects or express an opinion, but comments hating on them doesnt make either side look good imo. No hate to colleen obviously, im a fan of both and the skit was unexpected and fun. Rant over lol Sorry for the formating, commenting on phone is ugh
@@trashmaniayato5238finished the video and it was definitely a TT parody :D I agree with you completely and these are all the things I had in my mind as well. I know they aren't exactly the biggest fans but I wouldn't call them haters either. They're usually quite nice about it. I actually thought how cool it would be if Colleen went on the podcast and they had a nuanced conversation about demographics, as I don't think they get many opportunities to. Tbh, the kinds of shoujo Emily likes are mostly light hearted shoujo and mahou shoujo series. Not a bad thing of course but I'd say the same things if I saw her 3x3 hehe
As a child I did assume shoujo was just romance. But after reading a lot more in the demographic, it's clear it's way more than just romance. I always roll my eyes when people try to insist that something popular or really good "can't be shoujo/josei". It's like when some cartoons that are made for kids in mind end up with a big adult fanbase because it's good and/or fun, but people still say "um isn't that for kids though???"
Damn thats one crazy intro as a fan of both lol Also looking at the code geass characters its kinda funny not think who possibly could have originally desinged that :D
I love your shojo manga magazine deep dives and this was no exception. I will say that I wasn’t expecting to get a trip down memory lane though; even if I didn’t read all of Asuka’s manga from the 2000s the art style sure was familiar (and no doubt inspired a lot of young cartoonists who got their start at the time)! 😅 It does kindof stink that Asuka’s focus on otaku aesthetics, specifically fantasy-inspired works, are becoming less popular in recent years, but I feel like there are cycles in terms of specific genres getting popular in the shojo demographic, like the number sci-fi shojo titles of the 1980s and the magical girl boom of the 90s and early 2000s. I don’t know what the next big trend will be, but I feel there’s always going to be a place for fantasy, sci-fi, and speculative fiction in shojo.
I mean isn't the villainess boom the current trend in shoujo? While I would love another fantasy boom, I feel like it's gonna be highly unlikely unless it's supernatural or more urban based to blend less with the aesthetic of the current trend. So for me personally, I'm guessing the trend will lean more to mystery, with the success of Don't Call it mystery and Tendou-ke Monogatari; crime might be another one since I don't believe shoujo has had a boom that fully focuses in that genre, but Idk I'm just throwing my guesses.
@@Harukurochan Oh I do really miss 90's fantasy shoujo....Escafloune, Magic Knight Rayearth, Fushigi Yuugi and even the urban fantasy of Magical Girls and things like X are something that needs to be back fr
@@KuroNoKosekiThat’s true, villainess stories have been extremely popular in shojo and josei right now, as are otome inspired isekai stories, which is interesting since otome games were inspired by various isekai shojo series of the ‘90s, as Colleen discussed in a previous video. It’s fascinating to see how these trends are very cyclical and interconnected.
@@definitivamenteno-malo7919Me too. I’m always down for more shojo fantasy works, especially those based on a variety of different cultures and subgenres.
@Harukurochan personally aside from a few series, from experience none of the english translated villainess manga have really taken advantage of the setup in a way that's interesting, there's a lot less variety in the themes and topics focused, especially when compared the their korean counterparts. So typically, I tend to read a lot more of the otome villainess stuff in manhwa and other genres in manga. But I'm guessing this pov is heavily biased and unfair since we have more access to series compared to the ones published in English back in the day, so there is also more chance of getting slop or fodder stories
As soon as you said Asuka magazine, I was so excited for this deep dive!!!!!! The Eccentric Doctor is my 2nd favorite series EVER and my spouse loves Monster Girls and anything gothic. I'm so excited to learn about more Asuka series 😆
please colleen I need shoujo manga recs with some romance in them that I as a 15yo guy can get past my parents in an extremely conservative household where they monitor my purchases 😭
Ooohh that's tough and I totally get that struggle. I think My Love Story, Honey Lemon Soda, and A Sign of Affection wouldn't raise any flags for the,.
"Like a Butterfly" by Suu Morishita should be okay also. It's a modern day high school romance about a girl who is super shy. "No Matter What You Say Furi-san is Scary!" is a super wholesome modern day high school first love comedy about a girl who appears to be a delinquent and the boy she has a crush on who always misunderstands her. (actually, this might not be a shojo, but I recommend it regardless). It's been a while, but anything by Io Sakisaka should be ok. Modern day high school romances with a lot of growing up angst. If you don't mind historical romance (something along the lines of Jane Austen) "True Love Fades When the Contract Ends" is about nobles fake-dating in order to get peace and quiet. If some magic is ok, "The Fiancé Chosen by the Ring", which is a wholesome kingdom fantasy with a very heavy romance plot. Hopefully these give you some more options, good luck!
The only person in the trash taste bubble that I'd like to see Colleen talk manga with is Syd. They have very different tastes but are my 2 favorite reviewers and would probably have an interesting conversation.
I couldn't handle the psychic damage it would cause me. Though if Colleen had a collab with a shonen-focused creator that actually has a good chance of being open to it and not obnoxious towards them, then that would rule.
Kiss of the Rose princess was my very first manga ever that I confusedly bought on iBooks on an iPad with a gift card in middle school and then proceeded to read out of order. Suffice it to say I was very confused but interested lol
x, d.n. angel, kiss of the rose princess.... and others that made me squeal (read the first 2 I mentioned back in hs, discovered other shoujo titles there too)
i absolutely love the video but i did think there would be a lot more talk about bebop 😭 at the very least though i’m totally checking out asuka and the bebop manga now
I miss the reverse harem era of shoujo so much, we don't get bishounen after bishounen on chapter covers. Also, I'm cackling at how the person talking about "peak fiction" is wearing a Demon Slayer shirt when it is a shallow speedrun of a "shounen to-do list" + nice character designs
@@nozomisouffle Kimetsu no Yaiba is what happens when you get JJK a good character design. Still a YuuYuuHakusho wannabe and very bad at that, but at least you can look at good designs while in jjk you don't even have that
@@definitivamenteno-malo7919 most shoujo fans especially the romance lover one hates reverse harem with passion. That's why reverse harem is niche of niche genre that ever existed. That's why even manga featuring them is rare nowadays and always have one endgame ML with very obvious hint who it is (99% always the first introduced ML). Idk about the LN side but they never have true harem ending for some reasons.
@@yunfeikwon But still, you could do it and inspire more people to do it. Even it could be a precedent from someone sort of political plot going on. Things like that can be excellent catalysts for very interesting stories that phew people thought about
Good video, Eccentric Doctor is one of my fav Seven Seas titles and is what initially made me aware of Asuka. I’d like to shout out Tales of the Abyss: Tsuioku no Jade-A Tales of the Abyss spin-off manga that ran in the magazine. It fleshes out some backstory details from the game and is worth checking out
I met up with some nerdy friends this summer at our old state university - of course my one friend joked about how we will never get an ending to X! She at one point in time had all the tankobon lined up on her bookshelf waiting to complete that giant image that we'll never get. Even popped in the old comic shop right across the street from old state university where lo and behold, several old single volumes of X/1999 reminded with a slew of Tokyo Pop titles that were there when I was a student. Not like I'm still here waiting for more of Lawful Drug . . . I definitely learned about Asuka b/c I am a huge CLAMP fan, but of their smaller works like Wish and Lawful Drug. I had incorrectly assumed that RG Veda ran in it since it would have fit that vibe being such an overall dark and violent story. CLAMP, I love you but could go at least get around to tying up some of your loose ends. And the mention of Animerica Extra - hell, I remember buying individual issues of Animerica as well. With all these anime reboots of the moment, there is a small young part of me that wants a high quality remake of Weiss Kreuz for the sheer fan girl cheese factor. I know it was a complete VA driven project for the anime but with updated tech it would be pretty slick.
I started reading mainly shounen, when I was 23. Now that I am almost 29 i go toward shoujo and josei and I am here for it and for your channel obviously 😝
Im so happy you did a video on Asuka!!!! I discovered it a while back while looking into Yen Presss recent licenses and its a really cool magazine. Even with the current pivot towards romance series (as is the current shoujo trend) its a really diverse magazine with a little bit for everyone. Its got romance like Momochi House, Hachioji Speciality and Love Love Shitai (really hoping we get that in english), drama like Mr.Mallow Blue and Dawn Dance, fantasy like Luciole Had a Dream and Aria of the Beech Forest, supernatural like Illustrated Guide to Monster Girls and Foggy Foot, and even some oddballs like Sharakuna. (a horror series with 2 male protagonists) I also find its history with Bandai interesting, id love to do some research and find out how they came to publish tie ins to stuff like Bebop and Geass. Its just a really interesting magazine to me and im happy were slowly getting more from it in English. Great video as always, cant wait for the next magazine deep dive!! (would love to see something on Kodanshas shoujo magazines like Nakayoshi, Desert or Betsufre, even if just to show all the stuff Kodansha USA wont give us lol)
I honestly forgot the whole mecha aspect of Code Geass lmao. Because of the similar art styles and overlapping run dates, I think my brain just interprets Code Geass as an extension of Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle. Also, I've never heard of it but Sword of Paros looks amazing! X and Saiunkoku Monogatari are up there with my all-time favorite series. RIP Tokyopop
I accidentally clicked but I'm so happy I did. I'm a little late to the game but this made me excited to go read these works, even the unfinished ones. Great video!
I've never heard about this magazine but it seems exactly like something I'd like. I mean my favorite shoujo anime is Banana Fish and I'm not a fan of non-live-action het romance stuff ^^
OMG I really really trully love your videos, I always get to expand my knowledge on something that's so close to my heart as shoujo and LMAO with the last beat, at first I was a bit hesitant if you were referencing them but then, lol cherry on top for such a great video
omg that skit 😭👏 i immediately thought of TT when i saw it on twitter sdfnjk realizing how many titles i added from asuka to read this autumn... have you ever thought of creating a new series, here or on twitter, recommending mangas for the season? would love to know your recommendations!
I was trying to figure out why I recognized Asuka Comics... and then you mentioned DNAngel. UGH I AM SUCH A HUGE DNANGEL FAN. Partly because it was one of the first manga I read so it's very dear to my heart!
The intro is surely on point. Mostly because, as a person who read manga for like 30 years, it buzzes me how those guys can identify manga only if it's Shounen Jump series from the last 5 years...
@@ColleensMangaRecs all I’ll say is, it’s apparent when they (dudebro anitubers in general) ran out of shounen stuff to talk about because i saw one talk about nana, and wow was it obvious he never read shoujo or josei and much of it flew over his head (nana is pretty blunt about its messages imo).
Excellent parody intro. Best to think of shoujo, shounen, josei & seinen genre labels as guides rather than unalterable laws as stories can go anywhere and limiting yourself to only one of these will have you missing out on a lot.
19:37 LIKO MENTIONED OHHHHHHH There's one other ciao shoujo oneshot by Kahori Orito that adapted the first 3 episodes of new pokemon anime and I'd kill for it to be long running series 😭 like we finally got girl protagonist in anipoke series she's like the shoujo icon of pokemon
5:47 yes, it does provide something for me big shoujo magazines usually don't and as a fujo, asuka has a lot of titles with bishounen cast, which, while not being bl, is adjacent to my bl interests, huhu upd. it does have a bl spinoff magazine, huh, it's first i'm hearing that but it makes sense honestly (and it had junjou romantica and love stage? crazyy) upd2. it also has color recipe 💀
@@titoleon3101 real 😭 unfortunately the first time I got into anime I watched him and a few other problematic anime tubers. I was pretty young and naive but I know better than to follow people like that now 🥲
"D.N.Angel might seem familiar to you..." *Looks at her manga / DVD box set / Bluray box set* Oh... maybe. 😅 ..... Now that I think about it... did they ever translate the final volumes because the hiatus made me depressed and I stop checking after a while...
Well, considering that most of the manga or manhwa I like have female characters with significant narrative influence... 2:08 Well, considering most of Spike's actions are because he fell in love...
I dream of the day that Saiunkoku Monogatari will get it's 23 LN translated to English.... I totally haven't started learning Japanese just to read this series... *sips tea* 😭
Manga demographics make no sense to me. 2 mangas which share a very similar premise (gender-y school romances) are Stop Hibari-kun and Senpai wa Otokonoko, but Hibari is a shounen and painoko is a josei which are literally opposites despite being quite similar. Berserk took inspiration from shoujo manga for its character relationships, and the Dark Souls game director Hidetaka Miyazaki is also inspired by shoujo (see Deracine) Meanwhile stuff like Eizouken and Witch Hat Atelier are both seinen??? I am stupid
It's quite easy once you can start discerning story beats common between all the demos, what the focus is more on (action, plot, character dynamics, interior emotions), intended audience, art style and paneling, or even just marketing of the manga (who is on the covers, the colors, etc). Genres and demographics are two different things. EDIT: also relevant and I forgot to add, Senpai is an Otokonoko is a web series and more specifically a Webtoon. Those don't always have outwardly stated demos like traditional magazines and don't usually follow the same styles of art or paneling either.
So, I have a question. A few interrelated questions, actually. Firstly, did what happened at the end of the video really happen? Secondly, was it a certain "trash" related podcast? Thirdly, did it feature a certain person who calls themself a certain Anime Person? And fourthly, did one of the other people call themselves something with Gig in it? Or was this all part of the skit? I would like to know. Thanks!
Mother's Basement is more shoujo-positive than the others here. He just doesn't seem to read much manga in general but he watchs almost every anime he can get his hands on and speaks positively on most shoujo anime adaptations that have been coming out. The shoujo usually make it on his seasonal recc list or get honorable mention. Trash Taste and Gigguk don't branch out much at all though.
to be fair - hana no asukagumi does have 2 OVA anime adaptations. I've seen them but haven't read the series so don't know about how faithful they are though
Yes, you're right! I usually don't count OVAs often though since they're usually hard to find or watch for non-fans of the series.
@@ColleensMangaRecs that's understandable, thank you for replying!
A certain Floridian anituber did several videos on the whole Hana to Asuka Gumi franchise and his "hunt for the elusive OVA" but yeah no tv anime to adapt all those 27 volumes of manga, just a little teaser.
He popped up when I was looking up some stuff about the manga!
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"HOW COULD IT BE A SHOUJO, I LIKE IT!" omg it's too real I'm dead 🤣🥴☠☠☠
@@ebifuon6776the shonen artist should get copyrighted from plagiarizing shoujo, I mean look at JJK. Gojo and Geto breakup scene is the same exact copy-paste from a fricking BL manga!😂🤣👏
Whenever I find a new 'shounen' anime that I like, I later discover it has shoujo origins or was originally written by a woman lol
or it will be directed by a woman. k-on! is a seinen but the anime was directed by a woman which i feel like is why i love it so much.
Lmao I remember reading a few shojos and realizing other shounen works later had similarities with them. My first thought being “There is no freaking way that mangaka DID NOT read this shojo” it’s mostly female shounen mangakas that it happens with
@@rochipapaya4839 i love telling men that full metal alchemist and dungeon meshi are written by women
thats me with jjk, even though i dont remember if the bl manga that helped characterize gojo and geto’s relationship was a shoujo
@@samminh_ofc it's shoujo, shonen can allow any kind of fvcked up things but not homo😂
"Thank you Auska" we all say in unison
"Straightened bangs. Glomping. You get it." I am on the floor.
i was looking away from my screen when they mentioned & when i looked back my screen was filled with the exact images i was picturing in my mind lol
Moist Critical and Trash Taste in a nutshell.
the moist critical voice wasnt even intentional it just came out of me
Need Emirichu back on the podcast to talk about more shojo stuff XD.
People really just have very faulty preconceived notions about demographics. Thinking that all shojo is just sappy romance or that every seinen is just gritty action is really dumb. People surprised that Cowboy Bebop is a shojo has the same energy as people surprised that Kaguya-sama is seinen or that aot or csm is shonen.
The funniest thing abt Asuka is the fact W.I.T.C.H had their manga adaptation from Asuka
Okay but Colleen on Trash Taste would be so fun^^
Also would be wild to see Colleen and Sidney talk about the traumas of manga~
colleen, sidney, emirichu, and geoff mothersbasement collab would absolutely slap. the chaos.
Two massively huge thumbs up for this intro. If I had more thumbs to offer, I would.
i love your videos because they’re so fun and interesting and i get to expand my knowledge on shoujo/josei manga. thank you for all your hard work! 💕
I love your deep dives. Thank you for highlighting amazing manga and helping me find new ones to check out!
I love doing em!!
“I think…. I wanna respect women now…????” 🤣🤣😭😭😭
I love these detailed deep-dives! Please keep them coming! 🩷🩷
Also Colleen, I would absolutely LOVE IT if you could one day make a video covering horror master Junji Ito’s “Tomie”, a Shoujo horror! Ito actually has several Shoujo horror works, with “Dissolving Classroom” even being a Josei!
Ppl seem to think that Shoujo/Josei can’t be horror either 😭
I actually did think about doing a Tomie video recently because I finally read it. Although I don't know if I enjoyed its message/themes that much so the video would be semi-negative which is why I'm contemplating if I'd wanna do it or not.
the opening gag is so hilarious 😆 i guessed who it was about immediately lol
Who was it about?
@@melmelon3393 trash taste podcast maybe? idk
But don't think TT guys have been disrespectful about shoujo?? Gigguk often gets excited about new shoujo titles and some of Joey's favourite series are shoujo/josei as well
@@dandeliondot Its definitely meant to be tt with the trashcan literally on the table as a reference to either their sign or the box they use as a kind of randomizer every now and then.
I dont think they are flat out disrespectful of shoujosei in the usual sense, but can be kind of dismissive in cases, probably not even necessary intentional.
E.g. Garnt truthfully is excited, always ends up saying "what a cute little show" and then never mentions it again, when a shoujo pops up in his seasonal anime overview, which can come off as its not taken serious, boxed in or perhaps slightly belittling.
When he once discussed the best romances, the few shoujo in there were naturally mostly only stuff like fruits basket, which he proceeded to claim is the best romance and didnt elaborate at all.
They also once did an episode talking about 3x3s of their guests and when their friend and youtuber Emirichu's came on, full of iirc only shoujo, they basically stamped it off as very fitting for her and wholesome, but not talked about it much at all.
The only time i remember Garnt putting a shoujosei in his best anime of the year was maybe banana fish.
In their videos of top lists of manga/anime they never dive into the shows of these demographics either.
And moments when a new shoujo is talked about in recent years they or rather Garnt didnt like it, which is unfortunate (e.g. Yamada lv999)
Now, all of this sounds as bad faith on my part or insinuating they might even lie, but as mentioned i actually dont think its for reasons as them disliking the complete demographics specifically.
It seems more likely that they dont think their viewers are interested or watched much of these shows to further a "discussion" paired with the facts that younger Garnt didnt watch/finish many older shoujosei and doesnt really talk much about older shows nowadays, regardless of type, focusing on new stuff.
Connor doesnt care for many anime in general and isnt into romance portrayed in the medium, which is most of the more popular titles of these demographics probably reaching his ears, as well as not reading much manga.
Joey for one indeed said on multiple occasions that he knows all kinds of series, even on his own channel, commenting on glass mask and similar. Though not burnt off of everything animanga, the time when he read or watched these is by now many years ago, so he doesnt remember much as he said himself and isnt into the medium as much these days.
So its lower interest on their behalf combined with potentially less interest from their audience being perceived as the kind of shonen fan stereotype i assume.
Not that one cant critisize them for certain aspects or express an opinion, but comments hating on them doesnt make either side look good imo.
No hate to colleen obviously, im a fan of both and the skit was unexpected and fun.
Rant over lol
Sorry for the formating, commenting on phone is ugh
@@trashmaniayato5238finished the video and it was definitely a TT parody :D
I agree with you completely and these are all the things I had in my mind as well. I know they aren't exactly the biggest fans but I wouldn't call them haters either. They're usually quite nice about it. I actually thought how cool it would be if Colleen went on the podcast and they had a nuanced conversation about demographics, as I don't think they get many opportunities to.
Tbh, the kinds of shoujo Emily likes are mostly light hearted shoujo and mahou shoujo series. Not a bad thing of course but I'd say the same things if I saw her 3x3 hehe
As a child I did assume shoujo was just romance. But after reading a lot more in the demographic, it's clear it's way more than just romance. I always roll my eyes when people try to insist that something popular or really good "can't be shoujo/josei". It's like when some cartoons that are made for kids in mind end up with a big adult fanbase because it's good and/or fun, but people still say "um isn't that for kids though???"
Did not realize just how much Asuka is responsible for my brain worms. DNAngel is one thing but JUNJOU ROMANTICA??? Dear god
RIGHT 😭😭 I did not realize until working on this video that so many early 00s BL I read came from them
Where is the petition to get you on the trash taste podcast, I need to sign it now.
i actually once saw someone post on their sub that I should be on lol
@@ColleensMangaRecsfor sure! I think you and Joey would have a great conversation on Shojo manga!
@@ColleensMangaRecs OMG please get on the Trash Taste podcast and talk about Wolf and Revolver!!!
I knew there was a reason I loved Cowboy Bebop apart from the goddamn soundtrack.
Damn thats one crazy intro as a fan of both lol
Also looking at the code geass characters its kinda funny not think who possibly could have originally desinged that :D
CLAMP designed some of the code geass anime characters if I recall correctly
@@alexlovessamoyeds yeah thats what i was alluding to :D
Every time someone calls Code Geass a shonen political drama, I end up giggling because those noodle limbs are so damn recognizable...
@@trashmaniayato5238 I'm so silly. I definitely missed your subtext lol. It's always a fun fact to drop in shonen bro convos ;)
those long ass legs are a dead giveaway, get them out of mecha and on a runway damnit!
Imani, Basic Boi, and Colleen blessing my Saturday feed like the holy trinity. 👏
Imani? What's the channel name?
I love your shojo manga magazine deep dives and this was no exception. I will say that I wasn’t expecting to get a trip down memory lane though; even if I didn’t read all of Asuka’s manga from the 2000s the art style sure was familiar (and no doubt inspired a lot of young cartoonists who got their start at the time)! 😅
It does kindof stink that Asuka’s focus on otaku aesthetics, specifically fantasy-inspired works, are becoming less popular in recent years, but I feel like there are cycles in terms of specific genres getting popular in the shojo demographic, like the number sci-fi shojo titles of the 1980s and the magical girl boom of the 90s and early 2000s. I don’t know what the next big trend will be, but I feel there’s always going to be a place for fantasy, sci-fi, and speculative fiction in shojo.
I mean isn't the villainess boom the current trend in shoujo? While I would love another fantasy boom, I feel like it's gonna be highly unlikely unless it's supernatural or more urban based to blend less with the aesthetic of the current trend. So for me personally, I'm guessing the trend will lean more to mystery, with the success of Don't Call it mystery and Tendou-ke Monogatari; crime might be another one since I don't believe shoujo has had a boom that fully focuses in that genre, but Idk I'm just throwing my guesses.
@@Harukurochan Oh I do really miss 90's fantasy shoujo....Escafloune, Magic Knight Rayearth, Fushigi Yuugi and even the urban fantasy of Magical Girls and things like X are something that needs to be back fr
@@KuroNoKosekiThat’s true, villainess stories have been extremely popular in shojo and josei right now, as are otome inspired isekai stories, which is interesting since otome games were inspired by various isekai shojo series of the ‘90s, as Colleen discussed in a previous video. It’s fascinating to see how these trends are very cyclical and interconnected.
@@definitivamenteno-malo7919Me too. I’m always down for more shojo fantasy works, especially those based on a variety of different cultures and subgenres.
@Harukurochan personally aside from a few series, from experience none of the english translated villainess manga have really taken advantage of the setup in a way that's interesting, there's a lot less variety in the themes and topics focused, especially when compared the their korean counterparts. So typically, I tend to read a lot more of the otome villainess stuff in manhwa and other genres in manga. But I'm guessing this pov is heavily biased and unfair since we have more access to series compared to the ones published in English back in the day, so there is also more chance of getting slop or fodder stories
As soon as you said Asuka magazine, I was so excited for this deep dive!!!!!! The Eccentric Doctor is my 2nd favorite series EVER and my spouse loves Monster Girls and anything gothic. I'm so excited to learn about more Asuka series 😆
I truly miss the deviantart era of shoujo manga, so many of my all time favorites came from it
please colleen I need shoujo manga recs with some romance in them that I as a 15yo guy can get past my parents in an extremely conservative household where they monitor my purchases 😭
Ooohh that's tough and I totally get that struggle. I think My Love Story, Honey Lemon Soda, and A Sign of Affection wouldn't raise any flags for the,.
"Like a Butterfly" by Suu Morishita should be okay also. It's a modern day high school romance about a girl who is super shy.
"No Matter What You Say Furi-san is Scary!" is a super wholesome modern day high school first love comedy about a girl who appears to be a delinquent and the boy she has a crush on who always misunderstands her. (actually, this might not be a shojo, but I recommend it regardless).
It's been a while, but anything by Io Sakisaka should be ok. Modern day high school romances with a lot of growing up angst.
If you don't mind historical romance (something along the lines of Jane Austen) "True Love Fades When the Contract Ends" is about nobles fake-dating in order to get peace and quiet.
If some magic is ok, "The Fiancé Chosen by the Ring", which is a wholesome kingdom fantasy with a very heavy romance plot.
Hopefully these give you some more options, good luck!
yay new video!! always excited to see what you have to share
The scream I scrumt at 00:15 😭💀
Your bits never fail to make me smile. As someone who's been getting into more different manga recently this video will be a goldmine!
We need to get colleen on the trash taste podcast
Now THAT is a great idea. We gotta make this happen.
The only person in the trash taste bubble that I'd like to see Colleen talk manga with is Syd. They have very different tastes but are my 2 favorite reviewers and would probably have an interesting conversation.
I couldn't handle the psychic damage it would cause me. Though if Colleen had a collab with a shonen-focused creator that actually has a good chance of being open to it and not obnoxious towards them, then that would rule.
Moto Hagio AND CLAMP?! Nuff said! Plus a Rose of Versailles-inspired girlprince drama? Yes please!
Kiss of the Rose princess was my very first manga ever that I confusedly bought on iBooks on an iPad with a gift card in middle school and then proceeded to read out of order. Suffice it to say I was very confused but interested lol
x, d.n. angel, kiss of the rose princess.... and others that made me squeal (read the first 2 I mentioned back in hs, discovered other shoujo titles there too)
The introductory skits are getting more immaculate ✨️
i absolutely love the video but i did think there would be a lot more talk about bebop 😭 at the very least though i’m totally checking out asuka and the bebop manga now
I'm sorry I had to clickbait a little 😔😔😔
@@ColleensMangaRecsI'm sorry, it's definitely not a little😂
I miss the reverse harem era of shoujo so much, we don't get bishounen after bishounen on chapter covers. Also, I'm cackling at how the person talking about "peak fiction" is wearing a Demon Slayer shirt when it is a shallow speedrun of a "shounen to-do list" + nice character designs
@@nozomisouffle Kimetsu no Yaiba is what happens when you get JJK a good character design. Still a YuuYuuHakusho wannabe and very bad at that, but at least you can look at good designs while in jjk you don't even have that
Sadly reverse harem can't have true harem ending, and the anime adaptation of reverse harem genre is mostly horrendous
@@yunfeikwon Well. Maybe not an animation, but why don't you do a light novel, or blast me! even a manga about it ?
@@definitivamenteno-malo7919 most shoujo fans especially the romance lover one hates reverse harem with passion. That's why reverse harem is niche of niche genre that ever existed. That's why even manga featuring them is rare nowadays and always have one endgame ML with very obvious hint who it is (99% always the first introduced ML). Idk about the LN side but they never have true harem ending for some reasons.
@@yunfeikwon But still, you could do it and inspire more people to do it.
Even it could be a precedent from someone sort of political plot going on. Things like that can be excellent catalysts for very interesting stories that phew people thought about
I love Asuka, thanks for highlighting it!!
Good video, Eccentric Doctor is one of my fav Seven Seas titles and is what initially made me aware of Asuka. I’d like to shout out Tales of the Abyss: Tsuioku no Jade-A Tales of the Abyss spin-off manga that ran in the magazine. It fleshes out some backstory details from the game and is worth checking out
I met up with some nerdy friends this summer at our old state university - of course my one friend joked about how we will never get an ending to X! She at one point in time had all the tankobon lined up on her bookshelf waiting to complete that giant image that we'll never get. Even popped in the old comic shop right across the street from old state university where lo and behold, several old single volumes of X/1999 reminded with a slew of Tokyo Pop titles that were there when I was a student.
Not like I'm still here waiting for more of Lawful Drug . . . I definitely learned about Asuka b/c I am a huge CLAMP fan, but of their smaller works like Wish and Lawful Drug. I had incorrectly assumed that RG Veda ran in it since it would have fit that vibe being such an overall dark and violent story. CLAMP, I love you but could go at least get around to tying up some of your loose ends.
And the mention of Animerica Extra - hell, I remember buying individual issues of Animerica as well.
With all these anime reboots of the moment, there is a small young part of me that wants a high quality remake of Weiss Kreuz for the sheer fan girl cheese factor. I know it was a complete VA driven project for the anime but with updated tech it would be pretty slick.
I started reading mainly shounen, when I was 23. Now that I am almost 29 i go toward shoujo and josei and I am here for it and for your channel obviously 😝
Another heater magazine breakdown 🎉 X is so full of scene kid nostalgia it's great!
I'm gonna check out The Sword of Paros this weekend 🙌
Enjoy!! It's shot up to like my top 5 fave manga after reading.
Im so happy you did a video on Asuka!!!! I discovered it a while back while looking into Yen Presss recent licenses and its a really cool magazine. Even with the current pivot towards romance series (as is the current shoujo trend) its a really diverse magazine with a little bit for everyone. Its got romance like Momochi House, Hachioji Speciality and Love Love Shitai (really hoping we get that in english), drama like Mr.Mallow Blue and Dawn Dance, fantasy like Luciole Had a Dream and Aria of the Beech Forest, supernatural like Illustrated Guide to Monster Girls and Foggy Foot, and even some oddballs like Sharakuna. (a horror series with 2 male protagonists) I also find its history with Bandai interesting, id love to do some research and find out how they came to publish tie ins to stuff like Bebop and Geass. Its just a really interesting magazine to me and im happy were slowly getting more from it in English. Great video as always, cant wait for the next magazine deep dive!! (would love to see something on Kodanshas shoujo magazines like Nakayoshi, Desert or Betsufre, even if just to show all the stuff Kodansha USA wont give us lol)
Asuka magazine is one of my favorites so I'm happy to see you talking about them!!
I honestly forgot the whole mecha aspect of Code Geass lmao. Because of the similar art styles and overlapping run dates, I think my brain just interprets Code Geass as an extension of Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle.
Also, I've never heard of it but Sword of Paros looks amazing!
X and Saiunkoku Monogatari are up there with my all-time favorite series. RIP Tokyopop
I accidentally clicked but I'm so happy I did. I'm a little late to the game but this made me excited to go read these works, even the unfinished ones. Great video!
The trash bucket is so on point lol
cackling at the regurgitated cowboy bebop video essay word salad, because that's *literally* how people talk about some series
Lmao I love your channel! This was everything. ⭐️💕💕💕 my nostalgia feels went crazy and we got end credits! 3 cheers for Colleen indeed. 😭😂
I've never heard about this magazine but it seems exactly like something I'd like. I mean my favorite shoujo anime is Banana Fish and I'm not a fan of non-live-action het romance stuff ^^
This is the shojo I like! This is what got me into anime and manga! Tokyo pop was where I got most of my manga from!
Every video of yours is a banger but this one takes the cake! So good! And I found more manga to read, thank you
Faye Valentine said -yes is a Shoujo and im the Main and the Last Bounty Hunter that is on this Bussiness yet,i need more new Stories.
Ofcourse its shojo. It takes place in the same canon as Carole & Tuesday
@@lewa3910 Is Space Dandy also a Shoujo?
The intro is hilarious lmao another excellent video
Dudebros are NOT going to like this
OMG I really really trully love your videos, I always get to expand my knowledge on something that's so close to my heart as shoujo and LMAO with the last beat, at first I was a bit hesitant if you were referencing them but then, lol cherry on top for such a great video
That ending! 😆 I love you 💖 Great video! THREE CHEERS FOR COLLEEN
Need more of the Gumption podcast + Colleen expeditiously
I know about the old OVA of the Heroic Legend of Arslan (its good), but didn't know a shoujo adaptation existed. Thanks for the info!
Omg I loved kiss of the rose princess, iconic OG
Hello fellow old folks who also remember "glomping".
omg that skit 😭👏 i immediately thought of TT when i saw it on twitter sdfnjk realizing how many titles i added from asuka to read this autumn... have you ever thought of creating a new series, here or on twitter, recommending mangas for the season? would love to know your recommendations!
Peak opening skit. Goodness all those tokyopop titles.
aaaa, this is the first i've seen someone mention paros no ken, definitely a favourite manga of mine: the art is sTuNnInG
アメリカではジャンルファンの対立があるのですか？
日本人から見ると不思議です。
日本ではジャンルはそれほど重要視されていません。
好みの作品を見つけるのに役立つくらいです。
どちらが優れているか、争うこともありません。
各自、自由に好きな作品を読み、楽しみます。
最近は売り上げを上げるためにジャンルの境界はどんどん曖昧になっています。
「アオのハコ」は少女マンガ的ですが少年ジャンプ作品です。
Loved the gag for this video! I watch the trash taste podcast and this parody is spot on 😂
I was trying to figure out why I recognized Asuka Comics... and then you mentioned DNAngel. UGH I AM SUCH A HUGE DNANGEL FAN. Partly because it was one of the first manga I read so it's very dear to my heart!
9:06 it does have ovas, the second one became a pretty notorious case of anime lost media (kenny lauderdale was searching for it)
The intro is surely on point. Mostly because, as a person who read manga for like 30 years, it buzzes me how those guys can identify manga only if it's Shounen Jump series from the last 5 years...
im fucking crying i love your skits so much omfg. the ending had me rolling
I love these skits lmaooo
I genuinely love how many original tv anime tie ins they've done. So many beloved characters and stories have gotten the shoujo writing treatment
Neon Genesis Evangelion: Angelic days says hi😉
@@alexlovessamoyeds is it a shoujo too?
Asuka gave me X, Asuka is everything.
Preach
Hana no asuka-gumi actually did get an anime adaptation in the form of two ovas.
I know who the opening gag is about…and I love it because they all annoy the hell out of me.
made it a little obvious at the end.... lol
@@ColleensMangaRecs all I’ll say is, it’s apparent when they (dudebro anitubers in general) ran out of shounen stuff to talk about because i saw one talk about nana, and wow was it obvious he never read shoujo or josei and much of it flew over his head (nana is pretty blunt about its messages imo).
Interesting video today 😁👍
Asuka ✨️✨️✨️ I miss the CLAMP covers of the X/1999 era
Betrayal knows my name!!! I haven't heard that one in *years*
Excellent parody intro. Best to think of shoujo, shounen, josei & seinen genre labels as guides rather than unalterable laws as stories can go anywhere and limiting yourself to only one of these will have you missing out on a lot.
mention of DNAngel slapped me with nostalgia omg
Cowboy Bebop have gone Woke?!
Ayo I found the first volume of D.N.Angel at a booksale!
I want more of the Gumption podcast. It should be a recurring skit, like the Nerd Crew is for Redlettermedia.
19:37 LIKO MENTIONED OHHHHHHH
There's one other ciao shoujo oneshot by Kahori Orito that adapted the first 3 episodes of new pokemon anime and I'd kill for it to be long running series 😭 like we finally got girl protagonist in anipoke series she's like the shoujo icon of pokemon
5:47 yes, it does provide something for me big shoujo magazines usually don't
and as a fujo, asuka has a lot of titles with bishounen cast, which, while not being bl, is adjacent to my bl interests, huhu
upd. it does have a bl spinoff magazine, huh, it's first i'm hearing that but it makes sense honestly (and it had junjou romantica and love stage? crazyy)
upd2. it also has color recipe 💀
The way I immediately stop drawing the moment you mention DN Angel I haven't heard that series name in decades aljkfdlsadfjk
unrelated but related: tokyopop is back right? i've seen some of their new publications, does anyone know why and or how it came back?
This reminds me, that I thought Witch Hat Atwlier was so good it was a shoujo, not a seinen lmao
it’s written by a woman so it gets a pass!
@@ryannthegawd Let's say it's shojosei in disguise! lol
the fact that I knew exactly who you were mimicking TvT you were on point
May I ask who?
@@titoleon3101 I know for sure one is the anime man
I used to follow him but there was one take he had that left a sour taste in my mouth
@@impsail374 Really? Wow, I could never stand that guy nor his podcast and purged him out of my socials ages ago. Thats why I didnt recognize him.
@@titoleon3101 real 😭 unfortunately the first time I got into anime I watched him and a few other problematic anime tubers. I was pretty young and naive but I know better than to follow people like that now 🥲
Who could look at the designs of Code Geass characters and not think it's shoujo?
THREE CHEERS FOR COLLEEN ❤❤❤
"D.N.Angel might seem familiar to you..." *Looks at her manga / DVD box set / Bluray box set*
Oh... maybe. 😅 ..... Now that I think about it... did they ever translate the final volumes because the hiatus made me depressed and I stop checking after a while...
they did not 😭
@ColleensMangaRecs 😭
Time to finish Cowboy Bebop hahah
idk If colleen does cookie magazine yet I really interest in them but I only know NANA
Well, considering that most of the manga or manhwa I like have female characters with significant narrative influence...
2:08 Well, considering most of Spike's actions are because he fell in love...
21:08
Do you think you’ll ever make a video about Tokyo pop?
Most likely!!
I dream of the day that Saiunkoku Monogatari will get it's 23 LN translated to English.... I totally haven't started learning Japanese just to read this series... *sips tea* 😭
BTW, how can anyone say Code Gueass be the best mecha anime? I mean, it's kinda good, but
hehehehehe.... I can imagine the seething anger from the other side...
Manga demographics make no sense to me. 2 mangas which share a very similar premise (gender-y school romances) are Stop Hibari-kun and Senpai wa Otokonoko, but Hibari is a
shounen and painoko is a josei which are literally opposites despite being quite similar.
Berserk took inspiration from shoujo manga for its character relationships, and the Dark Souls game director Hidetaka Miyazaki is also inspired by shoujo (see Deracine)
Meanwhile stuff like Eizouken and Witch Hat Atelier are both seinen??? I am stupid
It's quite easy once you can start discerning story beats common between all the demos, what the focus is more on (action, plot, character dynamics, interior emotions), intended audience, art style and paneling, or even just marketing of the manga (who is on the covers, the colors, etc). Genres and demographics are two different things.
EDIT: also relevant and I forgot to add, Senpai is an Otokonoko is a web series and more specifically a Webtoon. Those don't always have outwardly stated demos like traditional magazines and don't usually follow the same styles of art or paneling either.
Mayu shinjo mentioned 😂😂😂😂😂
So, I have a question. A few interrelated questions, actually. Firstly, did what happened at the end of the video really happen? Secondly, was it a certain "trash" related podcast? Thirdly, did it feature a certain person who calls themself a certain Anime Person? And fourthly, did one of the other people call themselves something with Gig in it? Or was this all part of the skit? I would like to know. Thanks!
Mother's Basement is more shoujo-positive than the others here. He just doesn't seem to read much manga in general but he watchs almost every anime he can get his hands on and speaks positively on most shoujo anime adaptations that have been coming out. The shoujo usually make it on his seasonal recc list or get honorable mention. Trash Taste and Gigguk don't branch out much at all though.
@@PredictableEnigma I see! i was wondering! I do love mother's basement! As he seems to be more willing to branch out than some other male animetubers