Does anyone remember those two glorious years we had where SyFy showed Stargate SG1, SG Atlantis, and BSG on friday nights and ran each episode twice? Those were great days.
You have to really give Zelenka his due... managing to whittle down the power of multiple nukes to the size of a single room exploding, all in the space of 90 seconds... AND he and John didn't get hurt from said explosion!
@@saberiandream316 Ducking under a desk from a relatively minor explosion (compared to what it would have been, were it not for Zelenka's quick work) isn't really that much of a feat. They'd have known exactly when the shield was going to fail, so they'd have had enough warning for that one action.
Given how tiny a portion of the energy was left when the shield exploded and the fact that it was the emitters that were failing that "I'll see if I can divert more power to the shields" is probably the reason it failed at all. He should have let the default management handle it and get everyone out of the room.
Because of budget constraints, everything is made of the most cost effective material, the material that has the best tensile and torsional strength while being as light and versatile as possible, it is called explodium. Same material the bridge on Star Trek ships are made of, you often see it in the form of random rocks when it reverts to it's natural state after an explosion. Luckily these rocks are easy to work with and can be forged back into what ever the engineers need, chairs, consoles, carpet, wood effect veneer, you name it.
It was a good thing they did, Hollywood found a safe bet in the fantasy crap and remakes they have now. Don't expect clever, fun, consistent writing from them for a while now.
I know this is alien tech, but... The shield emitters need power to emit force field. The more power, the stronger the field. So far so good. The gate explodes, emitters are really stretched to generate strong enough shield. They get so pushed, so much energy flows into them, that they begin to fry. How exactly does "more power to the shield" help the situation?
@@becausebuzzbomb6133 Depends how the emitters work and what they mean by "frying". Actual real life powerlines show a similar effect, in that if you overload them they heat up, and when they heat up the conductors' resistance goes up and you have to pump even more power into them to transmit the same amount to the other side, which causes them to heat up even more, etc. Eventually you either get to equilibrium, where the line is running hot but stable, or you keep having to increase the power until it fails catastrophically (the latter of which should be prevented by circuit breakers).
Considering how powerful the explosion of a stargate can be, Raddick did a damn fine job managing to contain the blast down to a few shattered windows of a single room...
Two thoughts I had for this. First, double the radius of the shield, it would drop the energy requirements for the shield by 50%. Second, open a hole in the back of the shield and just vent the pressure. Sure, it would blow out the back wall, but ONLY the back wall, the rest of the room would be intact. Or maybe they could move the contained explosion out through a window?
No, it wouldn't drop the energy requirements. The amount of energy dissipated per unit of surface area would decrease, but the total surface area needed to be maintained would increase, and so the total energy would be the same.
@@softy8088 Pressure is a factor of volume (4/3 Pi Radius Cubed) while the contact area is a factor of surface area (4 Pi Radius Squared). For a radius of 10, you have a volume of 4,186 units, with a surface area of 1,256, and an arbitrary pressure of 160 units giving a total surface pressure of 200,960. Double the radius to 20 and it becomes 33,493 volume with 5,024. The internal volume has increased by a factor of 8, and per Boyle's Law (Pressure = Constant / Volume) the pressure would have to decrease by a factor of 8, giving us a new value of 20 pressure * 5024 surface = 100,480. Half of what the total surface pressure was before. I am not sure what effect it would have on the heat that had to be dissipated, but it would reduce the amount of energy needed to contain the expansive pressure by 50%
@@TwilightMysts Yeah I was thinking the same thing. To be fair though, Radek was probably too busy flying by the seat of his pants to keep the emitters from frying to reconfigure the shield for maximum efficiency. That and Atlantis' shield was never designed to block energy inside out but outside in. To be honest, none of the stargate races shield technology we've seen (tok'ra, goa'auld, Asgard) could have held that back. Ancient technology is simply heads and shoulders above the other races.
@@TwilightMysts By the way, I encourage you to play Daft Punk Tron Legacy - Armory sound track and play this video at 2:43 It has a unique vibe to it when playing that soundtrack. It also was the soundtrack that was used in this youtube video "Stargate Atlantis City 2014 Animation". I recommend looking that up and playing the daft punk tron legacy armory at the same time. RUclips muted it for copyright reasons but it's awesome.
The shields might not be able to do that. The shield has never been only partially raised, it was always a closed, round shape. Plus pressure isn't what needs to be managed, it's the amount of energy that needs to be dissipated, and the more radiation waves colliding with each other inside the shield the better for that goal.
What are you referring to? I didn't spot any special effects in this sequence (unless you count the wraith costumes, but that's not exactly an effect).
Yes, but the key word here is extensively. If you used it just to ressurect dead people it probably wouldn't be that much of an issue, assuming they don't die every other day.
Well then good luck... I´m a Czech and to be honest, I can hardly understand what Zelenka says. No one I know speaks this fast. lol (but I understood "Dz´t´je?" "Dzs die?" (properly it would be "Co to je, co se děje") = What´s this? What´s going on?")
@@iamnosenate745, c'mon pal... I can understand him perfectly. Well maybe it's because I speak fast myself. :D Same as many other Czech people I started to watch Atlantis only because of Radek, and the show happened to turn into one of my many obsessions. ;)
It _does_ sound funny. Although I suppose that a shield that blocks everything _except_ a lethal amount of visible light wouldn't be much of a shield..
In SG1 they once used their unstable Naqudria FTL Drive on the fighter. "We do not know where exactly it will end up" "Does it realy mater as long as it far enough away?".
@XerShade, I believe in this same episode the Lantean Battleship the one faction "Travelers" I think was destroyed by a gate explosion so yeah, very bad ^2.
@@christopherg2347 The exact dialogue is this. "What about the hyperdrive?" "Colonel, it didn't work." "We just don't know where it'll send me, right? Who cares as long as it's in a galaxy far, far away?"
CoolsBreeze At the time a lot of sci-fi was having funding problems so I don't think Atlantis was cancelled in favour of Universe. There were plans for continuations of the Atlantis story but as it is Universe was only kept on the air due to the success of SG-1/Atlantis and clever contract negotiations. .Thr sad part is that since Universe ended there hasn't any good sci-fi television made.
Well they did say that they couldn't afford to keep both shows. But they also decided to axe SGA in favour of launching SGU with a sexier and darker atmosphere. The audience saw it as a slap in their faces so they stopped watching. Had they kept SGA a few more seasons and then launched SGU later then maybe everyone would've come out happy.
Ye the original plan was to keep both keep SGA running while doing SGU...or at very least end SGA with a movie, but even that was cancelled.... Either way most people agree that SGU's darker and more series tone, just didnt fit + the forgettable cast/character didnt do any favors either... Overall they should have never made plans for SGU in the first place and atleast end SGA with the movie they were planning if nothing else.
the amount of thrust that would have produced would have been astronomical... they probably would have sent the city flying... uncontrollably at that since they would have been sending all the power to the shield...
Jacob Bresler at the beginning maybe but if they had started later that would not have been that much of a problem and the thrust should have acted upon the shield not the city itself and I don't think that the shield would transfer the entire force onto the city
that force has to go somewhere... either the shield would absorb it and thereby deplete further power, or it would transfer it. I mean I get that this is sci-fi but conservation of momentum and energy should still stand...
Quick question which i'm more than certain has already been answered in one fashion or another but wasn't Atlantis's gate literally the only gate in the Pegasus galaxy that could Dial Earth? I know they had the midway station for 1 episode but i don't recall if they just relied on the daedalus and Apollo after for reinforcements, supplies etc. or if they found a different way?
I think it was less the gate and more Atlantis itself which could handle the computational requirements for billions of light year wormholes, stellar drift, etc.
Any Pegasus gate could dial Earth. McKay was modifying one on another planet because the planet had enough power. I believe you just needed the Atlantis control crystal. www.imdb.com/title/tt0709234/
Being able to look your door but not disabling the emergency opening would make being able to lock the door useless in the first place so I doubt that the emergency open still works if the door is locked
@@davidreddick3016 They take it from the McCay Cater Gate Bridge system. After the Midway Station explodes, the gates are useless and they know wherer they are
@@madmanLE The more pressing issue is how they fixed the floor around the gate. It was absolutely pristine, despite having a crater blown out of it during the explosion. I can buy a replacement gate, apparently there's a lot of them not in use and moving them is easy with a spaceship like the Daedalus, but the floor? Did Atlantis have spare building materials and magical no-seam patch kits handy or something?
That's not it, at all. Teyla was John's second in command. With Woolsey off world, John is in command of the city. If John dies, it's up to Teyla to be in command until Woosley returns.
I would guess it's set up to not work as long as the door receives an active signal to be in shutdown from the ship. This way you could prevent Intruders from abusing the feature to break through security doors while still being able to blast the door open in case of the ship loosing power or something like this.
Great episode albeit a little silly tbh - they have 90s to live and everyone is just ho hum... let me waltz about and just scoot my chair over and casually mention to put the Atlantis shield over the gate and the scared Radek does this (how exactly!! lol.) and that too in like under 5 seconds as someone else is counting it down.. why? when you will have a dozen nukes going off inside that area which will become hot molten lava and generate way more light, heat, pressure, sound, blast waves coupled with EM and Xray and gamma and other radiation. This is all very unscientific and silly.. And I loved every minute of SG1 and Atlantis for this reason. So awesome...
@@johnwolf2349 well during that time the shield was boosted by the ZPM from Atlantis. If the shields just used the standard powercore on the Daedaus the Daedalus would had been toast
Then I strongly suggest you switch to a less spicy diet. .With no beans at all that includes chile and Tia food etc. Double important in your case. You 2 should get together and compare diets ti see, What is wrong with you both,!?
The shield doesn't work like that, you can't just create holes, and besides they had less than a minute to even consideer using it, plus that'd wouldn't be dramatic for the script either ;)
Todd the wraith did looked at Rodneys files when Todd was helping the atlantis expedition also Wraith do know english and I suppose it's a manual somewhere in the ships database
I always wondered why they didn't use it, Ok it lets star gates explode if used but the gates do have a central operating program they are all connected and the humans managed to temporarily deactivate the gate network by using a virus so you would think that the people that wrote the program should have no problem deactivating the gate network until they killed all Wraiths
You have to remember this was at the height of the wraith war ships can't be spared to get from planet to planet, the gate system was integral on both sides. disabling them all would've been as bad as having them explode.
851995STARGATE but why would you have to travel from planet to planet you could simply wait until the war is over granted that will fuck over some planets that are currently under attack by the wraith but that would still be better then giving the whole galaxy to the wraith (also retreating through the Stargate does not really work since the wraith dial planets they attack). It's by no means an optimal strategy but it is not as if they had a working state that would suffer from losing the gate network they were in an all out war anyway practically any ship movement or movement of people through the gate was for military reasons anyway, and if they enacted this plan they could simply move all ships to destroy the wraith currently attacking and then they could literally just wait until the rest starves to death while using there ships to get around and start building new ships, or if you want to play it safe deal with some months of isolation while the fleet pics of the wraith ships that one by one leaving hyperspace ripping multiple ships apart with concentrated drone fire instantly retreating and repeating this strategy over until they have no wraith ships left.
Remember, this device's original intent was to create hyperspace interference that would cause Wraith ships to explode when going into hyperspace. The gate exploding was a side effect.
I meant that attacking the wraith, once this was activated, wouldn't really have been necessary. The wraith would die out in space, being unable to jump to hyperspace.
The Ancients were a bunch of irresponsible quacks who left their extremely high-tech experimental crap all over several galaxies. It seems perfectly within their character to *not* design measures against this!
Wasn't this a device invented by Janos in his secret lab? So only he knew what was going on when they exploded, so he turned it off? Haven't watched this episode for a while, so might be wrong
There is no beaming technology as we know it installed in Atlantis, it's an Asgard invention. The Ancient version is only present inside the transporter 'lifts'.
What, you think you can build an Asgard beam array from scratch in 90 seconds? That's ridiculous. It's a huge piece of machinery, that's why it's only installed on big ships usually.
Clearly you fail to comprehend the joke. Carter is known for pulling miracles out of her butt at the last second like Mckay is when hes under the threat of impending death.
You can interpret that post as a joke as you want, I think it's just a misunderstanding. Surely it's impossible to beam a gate with an active wormhole anyway, the wormhole would disengage as soon as the gate dematerialized.
Sg1-sga-warehouse 13-eureka...those were the best...now i dont hardly watch syfy channel...wish they would just re-run those shows...instead of face off marathons...killjoys is the only show close to those shows...and its not great either...miss sci-fi channel
David North Not seen Eureka but I found Warehouse 13 a bit too silly in parts as well as propagating several myths about historical events. Would have liked to see a continuance of Primeval though.
Always bugs me that the women except Carter wear their hair long and open. I would have thought that in any hazardous situation you'd NOT want it to fall into your face every time you turn around. There is a reason militaries have regulations for long hair and what's wrong with a pony tail?
This scene made no sense. An explosion is not continuous. The gate would have exploded and the shield would have either absorbed it all on impact OR absorbed it to the point that it failed and then continued exploding. All of this occurring in an instant. There should never have been this tug of war nonsense for a whole minute.
It's not a continuous explosion - the explosion happens and is immediately contained within the shield. The heat and pressure of an explosion normally distributed over a huge area in an almost instantaneous amount of time is instead entirely contained in a tiny area; which creates an extreme high pressure high temperature environment inside the shield. I mean the Stargate is made of extremely dense naquadah and it was VAPORIZE, can you imagine how much pressure the plasma produced from that would exert?! What doesn't make sense is where all that thermal energy actually goes. It's not as if the shield is dispersing it over its surface area like it normally would because the surface area is all being hit at the same time anyway. The shield would have to somehow transmit that somewhere else, which it isn't shown to be doing.
+TKGriffiths Not to say that nuclear detonations are nothing like your run of the mill chemical explosive. Immediately after the blast you'll have extremely highly radioactive fission products decaying into somewhat less extremely radioactive daughters, which in turn decay again. This keeps generating enormous amounts of heat and does, in fact, create the effect of a "continuous explosion" until the mushroom cloud spreads enough to start cooling down. Ever seen a large thermonuclear explosion, like the Castle shots? The mushroom cloud takes minutes to dissipate. The "cloud" wouldn't even have a chance to disperse and cool off if you're containing it in a small area. We don't know for sure if the gate exploding results in a traditional nuclear detonation, but we can be fairly confident it does. Throughout the Stargate franchise they mention augmenting traditional nuclear devices with Naquadah multiple times, and that's what the gate is made of.
TheGreatSeraphim energy shields can't exist like this, tho my favourite shield system is in Stargate, so it's pointless to argue how did that happen, just let it go.
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Does anyone remember those two glorious years we had where SyFy showed Stargate SG1, SG Atlantis, and BSG on friday nights and ran each episode twice? Those were great days.
orcslayer006 It was
I remember those days.
orcslayer006 yeah then Obama got elected as president and. Now we have nazis ain't life fun x)
I remember when it use to be called the Scifi channel.. but that was when people could spell.
Hellz yea den were the days
You have to really give Zelenka his due... managing to whittle down the power of multiple nukes to the size of a single room exploding, all in the space of 90 seconds... AND he and John didn't get hurt from said explosion!
They outran the nuclear fireball. How many other people can honestly say that?
@@saberiandream316 Ducking under a desk from a relatively minor explosion (compared to what it would have been, were it not for Zelenka's quick work) isn't really that much of a feat. They'd have known exactly when the shield was going to fail, so they'd have had enough warning for that one action.
Dude saves basically the entire planet in a couple of minutes
@@BYERE I was being hyperbolic.
Given how tiny a portion of the energy was left when the shield exploded and the fact that it was the emitters that were failing that "I'll see if I can divert more power to the shields" is probably the reason it failed at all. He should have let the default management handle it and get everyone out of the room.
"I do not understand why everything in the script must inevitably explode"
Indeed.
I saw what ya did there... Yes. And, I liked it. :-)
3. Rule of filmmaking:
_Explosions equal money_
Because of budget constraints, everything is made of the most cost effective material, the material that has the best tensile and torsional strength while being as light and versatile as possible, it is called explodium. Same material the bridge on Star Trek ships are made of, you often see it in the form of random rocks when it reverts to it's natural state after an explosion. Luckily these rocks are easy to work with and can be forged back into what ever the engineers need, chairs, consoles, carpet, wood effect veneer, you name it.
Scenes like this, really makes you question why they cancelled this show...
It had a good ending but there was supposed to be a movie that never happened.
@@MrJasonWell money issues.
It was a good thing they did, Hollywood found a safe bet in the fantasy crap and remakes they have now. Don't expect clever, fun, consistent writing from them for a while now.
That sound when more power is boosted to the shield 😍
I know this is alien tech, but... The shield emitters need power to emit force field. The more power, the stronger the field. So far so good. The gate explodes, emitters are really stretched to generate strong enough shield. They get so pushed, so much energy flows into them, that they begin to fry. How exactly does "more power to the shield" help the situation?
Trust me, the audience loves "more power to the shield"
Heh, I remembered this exact thing. :) Exactly as Marty said - the audience loves.
@@becausebuzzbomb6133 Depends how the emitters work and what they mean by "frying".
Actual real life powerlines show a similar effect, in that if you overload them they heat up, and when they heat up the conductors' resistance goes up and you have to pump even more power into them to transmit the same amount to the other side, which causes them to heat up even more, etc. Eventually you either get to equilibrium, where the line is running hot but stable, or you keep having to increase the power until it fails catastrophically (the latter of which should be prevented by circuit breakers).
@@becausebuzzbomb6133 power to the shields buy times. The emitter were burning due to containing the explosion.
“Don’t look at the blast” is an understatement
"Don´t look at the blast" - "what blast? i don´t see a thing". "Oh crap, we are permanently blind now, what should we do?".
“Could have mentioned that before”
He was kinda busy saving your ass there John.
Considering how powerful the explosion of a stargate can be, Raddick did a damn fine job managing to contain the blast down to a few shattered windows of a single room...
BYERE i love how sheppard covered him from the glass
His name is Radek.
Raddick xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Two thoughts I had for this.
First, double the radius of the shield, it would drop the energy requirements for the shield by 50%.
Second, open a hole in the back of the shield and just vent the pressure. Sure, it would blow out the back wall, but ONLY the back wall, the rest of the room would be intact. Or maybe they could move the contained explosion out through a window?
No, it wouldn't drop the energy requirements. The amount of energy dissipated per unit of surface area would decrease, but the total surface area needed to be maintained would increase, and so the total energy would be the same.
@@softy8088 Pressure is a factor of volume (4/3 Pi Radius Cubed) while the contact area is a factor of surface area (4 Pi Radius Squared). For a radius of 10, you have a volume of 4,186 units, with a surface area of 1,256, and an arbitrary pressure of 160 units giving a total surface pressure of 200,960. Double the radius to 20 and it becomes 33,493 volume with 5,024. The internal volume has increased by a factor of 8, and per Boyle's Law (Pressure = Constant / Volume) the pressure would have to decrease by a factor of 8, giving us a new value of 20 pressure * 5024 surface = 100,480. Half of what the total surface pressure was before.
I am not sure what effect it would have on the heat that had to be dissipated, but it would reduce the amount of energy needed to contain the expansive pressure by 50%
@@TwilightMysts Yeah I was thinking the same thing. To be fair though, Radek was probably too busy flying by the seat of his pants to keep the emitters from frying to reconfigure the shield for maximum efficiency. That and Atlantis' shield was never designed to block energy inside out but outside in. To be honest, none of the stargate races shield technology we've seen (tok'ra, goa'auld, Asgard) could have held that back. Ancient technology is simply heads and shoulders above the other races.
@@TwilightMysts By the way, I encourage you to play Daft Punk Tron Legacy - Armory sound track and play this video at 2:43
It has a unique vibe to it when playing that soundtrack. It also was the soundtrack that was used in this youtube video "Stargate Atlantis City 2014 Animation". I recommend looking that up and playing the daft punk tron legacy armory at the same time. RUclips muted it for copyright reasons but it's awesome.
The shields might not be able to do that. The shield has never been only partially raised, it was always a closed, round shape. Plus pressure isn't what needs to be managed, it's the amount of energy that needs to be dissipated, and the more radiation waves colliding with each other inside the shield the better for that goal.
That was an incredible Special Effect
It was amazing the last season had its biggest budget too
Too bad so little of it apparently went to the writer's department
What are you referring to? I didn't spot any special effects in this sequence (unless you count the wraith costumes, but that's not exactly an effect).
I love Stargate especially Ronon the barbarian, king of the Dothraki Nomads. who is actually King of Atlantis
And yet before all that, he was a mere Los Angeles lifeguard...
@@BYERE You beat me too it. Dude went from a lifeguard, to a soldier of Atlantis, to King of Atlantis.
First time i ever saw him was this show. So glad to have that privilege.
He is slowly but surely evolving, like a Pokemon. Oh crap, his last name's "Dex" too...
"Harmful radiation is it?" Oh, Daniel.
He ain't going through that again. Especially now that he doesn't have his Oma back up.
Considering that killed him last time, and for some reason the Sgc never stole a sarcophagus just to resurrect fallen SG team members.
@@dragonsword7370 it makes people go crazy I can understand why they dont
Daniel DID use a sarcophagus extensively in one episode. It turned him into a major asshole
Yes, but the key word here is extensively. If you used it just to ressurect dead people it probably wouldn't be that much of an issue, assuming they don't die every other day.
Radek reacting in Czech
Co to je - What its this :D
*is
Well then good luck... I´m a Czech and to be honest, I can hardly understand what Zelenka says. No one I know speaks this fast. lol (but I understood "Dz´t´je?" "Dzs die?" (properly it would be "Co to je, co se děje") = What´s this? What´s going on?")
He’s the reason why I started to watch the all the show with original voice acting, in Czech dubbing they butchered his lines
@@iamnosenate745, c'mon pal... I can understand him perfectly. Well maybe it's because I speak fast myself. :D Same as many other Czech people I started to watch Atlantis only because of Radek, and the show happened to turn into one of my many obsessions. ;)
John didn't knew that you shouldn't look at an expiosion stronger than a nuke?
It _does_ sound funny.
Although I suppose that a shield that blocks everything _except_ a lethal amount of visible light wouldn't be much of a shield..
the light would just blind them or at the very least damage their sight
or roast them to little colebrickets, because light is also energy --> heat
He is a bad ass. Shouldn't he look away from from the explosion.
It looked like a mini sun inside atlantis
That's pretty much what it was. Naquadah overloading is pretty much a giant nuclear explosion, only more so.
Pretty much was, gates exploding are very, very, bad for the people anywhere remotely nearby.
In SG1 they once used their unstable Naqudria FTL Drive on the fighter. "We do not know where exactly it will end up" "Does it realy mater as long as it far enough away?".
@XerShade, I believe in this same episode the Lantean Battleship the one faction "Travelers" I think was destroyed by a gate explosion so yeah, very bad ^2.
@@christopherg2347 The exact dialogue is this.
"What about the hyperdrive?"
"Colonel, it didn't work."
"We just don't know where it'll send me, right? Who cares as long as it's in a galaxy far, far away?"
Stargate for ever!
And they cancelled this show for Universe...
Worst decision ever.
CoolsBreeze At the time a lot of sci-fi was having funding problems so I don't think Atlantis was cancelled in favour of Universe. There were plans for continuations of the Atlantis story but as it is Universe was only kept on the air due to the success of SG-1/Atlantis and clever contract negotiations.
.Thr sad part is that since Universe ended there hasn't any good sci-fi television made.
Well they did say that they couldn't afford to keep both shows. But they also decided to axe SGA in favour of launching SGU with a sexier and darker atmosphere. The audience saw it as a slap in their faces so they stopped watching. Had they kept SGA a few more seasons and then launched SGU later then maybe everyone would've come out happy.
SGU is great
Ye the original plan was to keep both keep SGA running while doing SGU...or at very least end SGA with a movie, but even that was cancelled....
Either way most people agree that SGU's darker and more series tone, just didnt fit + the forgettable cast/character didnt do any favors either...
Overall they should have never made plans for SGU in the first place and atleast end SGA with the movie they were planning if nothing else.
excellent show, hope they revive it
Should have opened a little hole at the back of the shield to vent the explosion out the window. ;)
spork24601 I don't think they can make holes in the shield only bend it
although it would probably have locked pretty hilarious
the amount of thrust that would have produced would have been astronomical... they probably would have sent the city flying... uncontrollably at that since they would have been sending all the power to the shield...
Jacob Bresler at the beginning maybe but if they had started later that would not have been that much of a problem and the thrust should have acted upon the shield not the city itself and I don't think that the shield would transfer the entire force onto the city
that force has to go somewhere... either the shield would absorb it and thereby deplete further power, or it would transfer it. I mean I get that this is sci-fi but conservation of momentum and energy should still stand...
Quick question which i'm more than certain has already been answered in one fashion or another but wasn't Atlantis's gate literally the only gate in the Pegasus galaxy that could Dial Earth? I know they had the midway station for 1 episode but i don't recall if they just relied on the daedalus and Apollo after for reinforcements, supplies etc. or if they found a different way?
I think it was less the gate and more Atlantis itself which could handle the computational requirements for billions of light year wormholes, stellar drift, etc.
The Atlantis gate was only one because of the dialing program and the ZPM source
Any Pegasus gate could dial Earth. McKay was modifying one on another planet because the planet had enough power. I believe you just needed the Atlantis control crystal. www.imdb.com/title/tt0709234/
Any Pegasus gate can dial the Milky Way as long as the DHD has the Atlantis control crystal installed.
Programing was the key I believe.
"Wow it was close, huh."
"Oh yeah."
Very good mini arc in the show.
Why is he doing screw movements on an ancient control surface? @2:03
Why does no one ever try that "emergency door open" panel, the one that warns about explosive bolts??
Being able to look your door but not disabling the emergency opening would make being able to lock the door useless in the first place so I doubt that the emergency open still works if the door is locked
why didn't they use the emergency open thing on the door?
Matt E on the deadalus. Emergency door release
Good point
i always wondered how they fixed the glass on the tower after this explosion
viper2165 they restored from cgi backup...
With custom made stain glass, I would imagine. It would have cost the Air Force a lot of money.
@@minemasterjake2 the fact they got a new gate so fast has always confused me more then the glass.
@@davidreddick3016 They take it from the McCay Cater Gate Bridge system. After the Midway Station explodes, the gates are useless and they know wherer they are
@@madmanLE The more pressing issue is how they fixed the floor around the gate. It was absolutely pristine, despite having a crater blown out of it during the explosion. I can buy a replacement gate, apparently there's a lot of them not in use and moving them is easy with a spaceship like the Daedalus, but the floor? Did Atlantis have spare building materials and magical no-seam patch kits handy or something?
Don't look at the blast!
[ Shephard looks at the blast ]
we're frying the emitters
-send more power to them!
:DDDDDDDDDDDD
I swear, it looks like he tell Tealay he lovers her. I really miss this show.
I thought it was more a "Your a mother who shouldn't sacrifice herself for her kid over this!"
That's not it, at all. Teyla was John's second in command. With Woolsey off world, John is in command of the city. If John dies, it's up to Teyla to be in command until Woosley returns.
I thought that he was saying, someone needs to be in charge of something happens to him
Hatch explosives inside
EMERGENCY OPEN
Stand clear when activated.
Umm, we're not using that why? This seems like an emergency.
I would guess it's set up to not work as long as the door receives an active signal to be in shutdown from the ship.
This way you could prevent Intruders from abusing the feature to break through security doors while still being able to blast the door open in case of the ship loosing power or something like this.
so the gate exploded. What happened next? I absolutely hate to be continued.
They ran into the other room and had glass shrapnel, that's it. Plus their hearing was knocked out for a little while. But they otherwise survived.
13 years later!
Hard to believe it's really been that long.
Great episode albeit a little silly tbh - they have 90s to live and everyone is just ho hum... let me waltz about and just scoot my chair over and casually mention to put the Atlantis shield over the gate and the scared Radek does this (how exactly!! lol.) and that too in like under 5 seconds as someone else is counting it down.. why? when you will have a dozen nukes going off inside that area which will become hot molten lava and generate way more light, heat, pressure, sound, blast waves coupled with EM and Xray and gamma and other radiation. This is all very unscientific and silly.. And I loved every minute of SG1 and Atlantis for this reason. So awesome...
Not really impossible... The Deadalus, a ship with weaker shields than Atlantis, successfully met a solar flare head in earlier in the show.
@@johnwolf2349 well during that time the shield was boosted by the ZPM from Atlantis. If the shields just used the standard powercore on the Daedaus the Daedalus would had been toast
surf between this and viva la bam.
if only the SciFy channel would play these SciFy shows again vs the crap they do now.
Big whoop ! I see that explosion in my toilet bowl every morning .
I sometimes see it twice a day!
And smell it!
Then I strongly suggest you switch to a less spicy diet. .With no beans at all that includes chile and Tia food etc.
Then I strongly suggest you switch to a less spicy diet. .With no beans at all that includes chile and Tia food etc. Double important in your case. You 2 should get together and compare diets ti see, What is wrong with you both,!?
Lol, you posted twice and edited the second post. That is a new one.
I post twice a day myself.
If its the same color though . . . that could be a really big problem.
0:33 when a problem is find, which is 1:28.
I don't get why didn't they funnel the energy out of the backwards to reduce the energy consumption and quickly reduce the explosion
The shield doesn't work like that, you can't just create holes, and besides they had less than a minute to even consideer using it, plus that'd wouldn't be dramatic for the script either ;)
By the way, they survived (of course)
next episode the star gate was ok!
*The Stargate* was a space gate they nicked from another planet.
0:21 question here, how those Wraith even know how to operate this fuckinh HUMAN cruiser???
Todd the wraith did looked at Rodneys files when Todd was helping the atlantis expedition also Wraith do know english and I suppose it's a manual somewhere in the ships database
I always wondered why they didn't use it,
Ok it lets star gates explode if used but the gates do have a central operating program they are all connected and the humans managed to temporarily deactivate the gate network by using a virus so you would think that the people that wrote the program should have no problem deactivating the gate network until they killed all Wraiths
You have to remember this was at the height of the wraith war ships can't be spared to get from planet to planet, the gate system was integral on both sides. disabling them all would've been as bad as having them explode.
851995STARGATE but why would you have to travel from planet to planet you could simply wait until the war is over granted that will fuck over some planets that are currently under attack by the wraith but that would still be better then giving the whole galaxy to the wraith (also retreating through the Stargate does not really work since the wraith dial planets they attack).
It's by no means an optimal strategy but it is not as if they had a working state that would suffer from losing the gate network they were in an all out war anyway practically any ship movement or movement of people through the gate was for military reasons anyway, and if they enacted this plan they could simply move all ships to destroy the wraith currently attacking and then they could literally just wait until the rest starves to death while using there ships to get around and start building new ships, or if you want to play it safe deal with some months of isolation while the fleet pics of the wraith ships that one by one leaving hyperspace ripping multiple ships apart with concentrated drone fire instantly retreating and repeating this strategy over until they have no wraith ships left.
Remember, this device's original intent was to create hyperspace interference that would cause Wraith ships to explode when going into hyperspace. The gate exploding was a side effect.
icwiz sorry I don't understand the purpose of your comment?
I meant that attacking the wraith, once this was activated, wouldn't really have been necessary. The wraith would die out in space, being unable to jump to hyperspace.
2:21 love how this small character tries to squeeze a line for her forgettable character
it would have been a very bad day if Earth had Dialled in
The device only affected the Pegasus gate network. The effects would likely still be felt on Atlantis' end though.
You'd think the Ancients would have designed measures against this
The Ancients were a bunch of irresponsible quacks who left their extremely high-tech experimental crap all over several galaxies. It seems perfectly within their character to *not* design measures against this!
Zanar Naryon this was caused by a side effect to an ancient device
Wasn't this a device invented by Janos in his secret lab? So only he knew what was going on when they exploded, so he turned it off? Haven't watched this episode for a while, so might be wrong
what is the season and episode
Season 5 Episode 10
Am I the only one who bought that explosion at the end was weak for an explosion that was to have as powerful as several nuclear bombs?
Well most of the energy had been absorbed by the shield at that point, so it makes sense that the explosion wouldn't have been so powerful.
Most of the force of the blast had dissipated by that point.
1 Nuclear bomb burns your eyes out if you look at it, so i mean...
Carter would have beamed the gate into space before it exploded.
There is no beaming technology as we know it installed in Atlantis, it's an Asgard invention. The Ancient version is only present inside the transporter 'lifts'.
Pretty sure that's the point, in 90 seconds carter would have had beaming tech installed and usable is what they are saying.
What, you think you can build an Asgard beam array from scratch in 90 seconds? That's ridiculous. It's a huge piece of machinery, that's why it's only installed on big ships usually.
Clearly you fail to comprehend the joke. Carter is known for pulling miracles out of her butt at the last second like Mckay is when hes under the threat of impending death.
You can interpret that post as a joke as you want, I think it's just a misunderstanding.
Surely it's impossible to beam a gate with an active wormhole anyway, the wormhole would disengage as soon as the gate dematerialized.
Oh Better call echo.
I don't think it was Rodney.
This time
Sg1-sga-warehouse 13-eureka...those were the best...now i dont hardly watch syfy channel...wish they would just re-run those shows...instead of face off marathons...killjoys is the only show close to those shows...and its not great either...miss sci-fi channel
David North Not seen Eureka but I found Warehouse 13 a bit too silly in parts as well as propagating several myths about historical events.
Would have liked to see a continuance of Primeval though.
Always bugs me that the women except Carter wear their hair long and open. I would have thought that in any hazardous situation you'd NOT want it to fall into your face every time you turn around. There is a reason militaries have regulations for long hair and what's wrong with a pony tail?
And they all died. The end!
227th comment comet!!!
Daniel never spoke the way he did in later seasons. Really annoying and not to the point.
This scene made no sense. An explosion is not continuous. The gate would have exploded and the shield would have either absorbed it all on impact OR absorbed it to the point that it failed and then continued exploding. All of this occurring in an instant. There should never have been this tug of war nonsense for a whole minute.
It's not a continuous explosion - the explosion happens and is immediately contained within the shield. The heat and pressure of an explosion normally distributed over a huge area in an almost instantaneous amount of time is instead entirely contained in a tiny area; which creates an extreme high pressure high temperature environment inside the shield.
I mean the Stargate is made of extremely dense naquadah and it was VAPORIZE, can you imagine how much pressure the plasma produced from that would exert?!
What doesn't make sense is where all that thermal energy actually goes. It's not as if the shield is dispersing it over its surface area like it normally would because the surface area is all being hit at the same time anyway. The shield would have to somehow transmit that somewhere else, which it isn't shown to be doing.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Might have had something to do with the emitters overloading.
+TKGriffiths Not to say that nuclear detonations are nothing like your run of the mill chemical explosive. Immediately after the blast you'll have extremely highly radioactive fission products decaying into somewhat less extremely radioactive daughters, which in turn decay again.
This keeps generating enormous amounts of heat and does, in fact, create the effect of a "continuous explosion" until the mushroom cloud spreads enough to start cooling down.
Ever seen a large thermonuclear explosion, like the Castle shots? The mushroom cloud takes minutes to dissipate.
The "cloud" wouldn't even have a chance to disperse and cool off if you're containing it in a small area.
We don't know for sure if the gate exploding results in a traditional nuclear detonation, but we can be fairly confident it does. Throughout the Stargate franchise they mention augmenting traditional nuclear devices with Naquadah multiple times, and that's what the gate is made of.
TheGreatSeraphim energy shields can't exist like this, tho my favourite shield system is in Stargate, so it's pointless to argue how did that happen, just let it go.
"An explosion is not continuous", try telling that to the sun and all the other stars.