Man I thought I was crazy. Thinking “why do all of my auto chops sound bad , why do I keep hearing a click??” I’ve always been into playing music but more recently have gotten into sound production so these kinds of videos are immensely helpful, thank you!!
I am so glad to hear that I am not the only one as well. I like chopping manually as well but for me it defeats the purpose of autochop if I have to go back and clean up the end points on everything.
Hey! Im a "eurorack" guy. I have alot of modules, but still think its a lot of work to make anything sound like a track regular folks listen to. So I thought of buying a display sampler(I already own samplers like Lubadh, Morphagene, Arbhar).. bought SquidSalmple by ALM, and then Erica Synths SampleDrum. But still didnt feel what I was looking for. Then I tried BitBox Micro and fell in love! Ive seen alot of criticism about the BitBox Micro from the modular community, but I love it. So now I just got my BlackBox delivered :D Man o man what a gadget! Just love the bigger screen and how easy it is to just sample some VCO and get at base going, a melody without having all that space with sequencers. AND that it has eurorack levels on IN's and OUT's (main 3 stereo outs). 10/10 for me. Love your videos btw. Cheers from Sweden
What has worked for me with the auto chop: after you time stretch it, resample it and then auto chop. Or normalize and then auto chop so that it can catch the transients better.
Thanks for those tips. I can definitely see how the normalizing would assist with catching the transients. Will certainly try both of these and report back. Appreciate you sharing.
I also have both, Koala and BB. The new song mode in Blackbox really helps to arrange very easy a complete song. But what i really miss is stem export on BB. With Koala I airdrop a stem to my mac with Logic Prow DAW in seconds. Fantastic!
Hey hope Kids /Baby doing OK! last year found my self in simular situation, a premature with a Black Box in hospital, the nurses could never understand. It all worked out, and that's not just the music ;)
Man, nothing like a nice little groovebox spending months sitting in waiting rooms during a family health crisis… been ther done that. A lot. Love the blackbox, almost selling it though. I usually take the circuit tracks, becaus blackbox has no internal battery. Its so often just one cable too much sticking out. Too many cables, then you forget the charger… wish phone developers will be forced soon to use replaceble batteries. A new standard battery to pop em in and out of other gear too. Just a standard battery slot for your elektron… Bb is so amzing, but with a powerbank and a cable sticking outthe back that usually takes up more space then the device itself.
the perfect chapping that you want depends on how perfect you trim the loops, but you also have the option once you chop the sample to used the release to also fix the problem of the ending !
I like both koala and BB but the BB definitely is great for midi triggering and having those options where koala is great for keeping the entire project on one device and move about in the apps. my main issue is deciding which to use and I always end up needing the other one in project.
Koala Sampler is a godsend. But wow bb does that? I like using the record a song feature on koala because I can make a song really quick, like a rough draft because of its sequencer. The only problem with that is that it’s only 8 sequences per page. It’s hard to go into the next page and access another sequence when you do a live recording. So I have to settle for 8 or less sequences. Never used a boss sp303 but it probably can’t do that or do it so well which koala was modeled after. Black Box…hmmm?🤔Okaaaay! I chop in quarter notes. I noticed that there are tons of chops in that sample. Most cases quarter note chops work well. For example the metronome is counted at quarter notes. So if you sample is one bar, reduce your chops to four, if it’s two bars then use 8.
Thanks for the vid. I’ve had a BB, but moved it on in a month as prefer to use the OT & DT. I use Koala a lot to field sample, or pull from RUclips (like you showed). I often then trim samples in K & send them on to my Elektrons, via the Mac. It’s so quick to do. Koala is possibly the best value for money tool out there (for sampling).
@@_justin_joe I use the Syntakt for drums mostly. I like to make my own, to a point. DT mainly for vocal samples & one shots at the moment. OT for chopping up melodics, etc & performance FX. I run all through the OT. It’s an ever evolving workflow, but mainly Elektron. Took me a few years, but realised their workflow suits me best of all. I like to use Koala to prepare samples for the boxes, rather than jumping into Ableton.
Can’t argue with you there! I’m interested to see how much better the new song mode is in the new 3.0 firmware though On the FX note, I rarely even use the 2 FX it has. Don’t care for them much either. It sharpens my sample technique and selection to try and work without. Mostly just use the filter and amp envelope for shaping
@@_justin_joe plus it probably better for a bigger setup I just wanted it to be a groovebox more love it’s built like a tank though the razz drum machine looks interesting
Just got a Blackbox a few days ago… it’ll be going back next week. It’s a beautiful machine and well made but I absolutely hate the workflow, lack of effects, incredibly limited LFO options… lots to dislike about it. Hard buttons, then soft buttons, double level of info buttoning etc. It’s horrid. Koala is super fun though and for the insanely low price I can live with the downsides. It’s not going to replace my Elektron’s or SP though.
@@ryanhursh6322 agreed I got a lofi12 it’s been fun but not the most easy workflow great sound though like my volca sample 2 hella good workflow have a Nunomo qun 2 it’s complicated but can do everything and great fx custom synth I know people like the lemon drop but I’m not a huge fan of 1010 music after the blackbox there ui and lack of fxs for me I did like the clip launcher part but yeah
@@SonicVibe If I only had the Blackbox I’d also be turned off of 1010 but I can highly recommend the Bluebox. This was oddly one of the biggest game changers in my studio. Went from an enormous Mackie 1642VLZ4 to the tiny Bluebox and it just so much more practical. I did. lose a few extra inputs and sends (which was my biggest reason for the Mackie) but saving having the ability to save project setting and control the mixer from my Elektron’s and P-lock parameters is just too awesome. I wish it didn’t run off USB power though. Otherwise top tier.
- I really like Koala sampler but in all the years of sampling i have never used auto chop in anything, i have always edited my samples individually in WaveLab, Blackbox and Bluebox don't send out control changes so they are of no use to me, also your video is wobble wobble wobble.
Yeah, I realized after I had filmed that it was wobbling I should’ve just done a screen capture. But at that point, I just want to get the video up and move onto the next one. Thanks for watching and the comment
Man I thought I was crazy. Thinking “why do all of my auto chops sound bad , why do I keep hearing a click??”
I’ve always been into playing music but more recently have gotten into sound production so these kinds of videos are immensely helpful, thank you!!
I am so glad to hear that I am not the only one as well. I like chopping manually as well but for me it defeats the purpose of autochop if I have to go back and clean up the end points on everything.
the Drambo Flexisampler has the exact same problem when you use Edit->Set Slices->Detect Transients.
I hear ya, i use koala as well but often go to spdx tangerine and blackbox, even the po 33 one of them will solve the problem!
Thanks for feeling my pain
i thought blackbox also only had 16 chops and not more, and ther eisnt even a star tand end point to set by yourself on a blackbox.
Hey! Im a "eurorack" guy. I have alot of modules, but still think its a lot of work to make anything sound like a track regular folks listen to. So I thought of buying a display sampler(I already own samplers like Lubadh, Morphagene, Arbhar).. bought SquidSalmple by ALM, and then Erica Synths SampleDrum. But still didnt feel what I was looking for. Then I tried BitBox Micro and fell in love! Ive seen alot of criticism about the BitBox Micro from the modular community, but I love it. So now I just got my BlackBox delivered :D Man o man what a gadget! Just love the bigger screen and how easy it is to just sample some VCO and get at base going, a melody without having all that space with sequencers. AND that it has eurorack levels on IN's and OUT's (main 3 stereo outs). 10/10 for me. Love your videos btw. Cheers from Sweden
That is awesome. I am sure it will continue to be a beautiful addition to your set up!
I like both very much! There is always going to be one thing you rely on that something else doesn’t do!
Very very true. That’s the danger since it makes me want lots of samplers for that very reason lol. I have too many already
What has worked for me with the auto chop: after you time stretch it, resample it and then auto chop. Or normalize and then auto chop so that it can catch the transients better.
Also the keyboard allows you to take each chip and play it across the keyboard.
Thanks for those tips. I can definitely see how the normalizing would assist with catching the transients. Will certainly try both of these and report back. Appreciate you sharing.
I also have both, Koala and BB. The new song mode in Blackbox really helps to arrange very easy a complete song. But what i really miss is stem export on BB. With Koala I airdrop a stem to my mac with Logic Prow DAW in seconds. Fantastic!
I love exporting from Koala to Abelton!
I wish that koala had the chops within one pad as well
Hey hope Kids /Baby doing OK! last year found my self in simular situation, a premature with a Black Box in hospital, the nurses could never understand. It all worked out, and that's not just the music ;)
I love that you had a similar story!
Got 2 healthy premies that are doing well. Glad to hear the same on your end!!
Percussionist must have it good and simple with Koala 🎼🥁 fastest flow yet but definitely an idea Pad.
Manually chop is your friend
BIG UP THE MAN MAREK. RESPECT.
Man, nothing like a nice little groovebox spending months sitting in waiting rooms during a family health crisis… been ther done that. A lot. Love the blackbox, almost selling it though. I usually take the circuit tracks, becaus blackbox has no internal battery. Its so often just one cable too much sticking out. Too many cables, then you forget the charger… wish phone developers will be forced soon to use replaceble batteries. A new standard battery to pop em in and out of other gear too. Just a standard battery slot for your elektron… Bb is so amzing, but with a powerbank and a cable sticking outthe back that usually takes up more space then the device itself.
I totally agree! I actually sold the Blackbox again for the 2nd time lol.
We will see if it ever come back...
the perfect chapping that you want depends on how perfect you trim the loops, but you also have the option once you chop the sample to used the release to also fix the problem of the ending !
That release tip is a good solution.
Thank you!
@@_justin_joeno problem, im glad i was able to help
I like both koala and BB but the BB definitely is great for midi triggering and having those options where koala is great for keeping the entire project on one device and move about in the apps. my main issue is deciding which to use and I always end up needing the other one in project.
Polyend Tracker Mini is ultra portable and can do anything you need
Definitely interested in see more about that as well!
Very Nice!
Koala Sampler is a godsend. But wow bb does that? I like using the record a song feature on koala because I can make a song really quick, like a rough draft because of its sequencer. The only problem with that is that it’s only 8 sequences per page. It’s hard to go into the next page and access another sequence when you do a live recording. So I have to settle for 8 or less sequences. Never used a boss sp303 but it probably can’t do that or do it so well which koala was modeled after. Black Box…hmmm?🤔Okaaaay! I chop in quarter notes. I noticed that there are tons of chops in that sample. Most cases quarter note chops work well. For example the metronome is counted at quarter notes. So if you sample is one bar, reduce your chops to four, if it’s two bars then use 8.
Great video Justin. I'm just not gelling with the BB and i think heading towards the Polyend Tracker Mini.
Thanks!
Yes that does look very exciting!
Would like to check that out as well!
Not it has Mix update its not just a sampler it is like a little DAW 💀
For sure!
Thanks for the vid. I’ve had a BB, but moved it on in a month as prefer to use the OT & DT. I use Koala a lot to field sample, or pull from RUclips (like you showed). I often then trim samples in K & send them on to my Elektrons, via the Mac. It’s so quick to do. Koala is possibly the best value for money tool out there (for sampling).
Hope all is ok with your daughter now 🙏
I would love to hear more about that workflow. Do you used the DT for just drums?
@@_justin_joe I use the Syntakt for drums mostly. I like to make my own, to a point. DT mainly for vocal samples & one shots at the moment. OT for chopping up melodics, etc & performance FX. I run all through the OT. It’s an ever evolving workflow, but mainly Elektron. Took me a few years, but realised their workflow suits me best of all. I like to use Koala to prepare samples for the boxes, rather than jumping into Ableton.
Doesn’t the DR have KL often found in WS? I prefer to MO the SA when sleeping.
You need to get AUM
What is it and what does it do?
I sold the blackbox cause the bad song mode and lack of fxs
Can’t argue with you there!
I’m interested to see how much better the new song mode is in the new 3.0 firmware though
On the FX note, I rarely even use the 2 FX it has. Don’t care for them much either. It sharpens my sample technique and selection to try and work without. Mostly just use the filter and amp envelope for shaping
@@_justin_joe plus it probably better for a bigger setup I just wanted it to be a groovebox more love it’s built like a tank though the razz drum machine looks interesting
Just got a Blackbox a few days ago… it’ll be going back next week. It’s a beautiful machine and well made but I absolutely hate the workflow, lack of effects, incredibly limited LFO options… lots to dislike about it. Hard buttons, then soft buttons, double level of info buttoning etc. It’s horrid.
Koala is super fun though and for the insanely low price I can live with the downsides. It’s not going to replace my Elektron’s or SP though.
@@ryanhursh6322 agreed I got a lofi12 it’s been fun but not the most easy workflow great sound though like my volca sample 2 hella good workflow have a Nunomo qun 2 it’s complicated but can do everything and great fx custom synth I know people like the lemon drop but I’m not a huge fan of 1010 music after the blackbox there ui and lack of fxs for me I did like the clip launcher part but yeah
@@SonicVibe If I only had the Blackbox I’d also be turned off of 1010 but I can highly recommend the Bluebox. This was oddly one of the biggest game changers in my studio. Went from an enormous Mackie 1642VLZ4 to the tiny Bluebox and it just so much more practical. I did. lose a few extra inputs and sends (which was my biggest reason for the Mackie) but saving having the ability to save project setting and control the mixer from my Elektron’s and P-lock parameters is just too awesome. I wish it didn’t run off USB power though. Otherwise top tier.
- I really like Koala sampler but in all the years of sampling i have never used auto chop in anything, i have always edited my samples individually in WaveLab, Blackbox and Bluebox don't send out control changes so they are of no use to me, also your video is wobble wobble wobble.
Yeah, I realized after I had filmed that it was wobbling I should’ve just done a screen capture. But at that point, I just want to get the video up and move onto the next one. Thanks for watching and the comment