Boeing pulled a "he committed suicide by 17 bullets to the head, strapped to a chair, hit himself with a baseball bat 34 times". But rest in peace John Barnett.
In Europe it's "He accidently fell on a knife, 17 times in a row". I think something very like that has actually been said in a courtroom. Also wth why is it 17 both times?
He died by "suicide" literally the night before he was supposed to testify in court about the very things he was trying to bring light to... So you really mean to tell me this man did a complete 180 and decide, "oh this very thing and information I've been trying to go public isn't that important anymore"....
If you wanna go public with something, isn't the internet the easiest way. And probably the most effective. Although he did become a martyr for a huge investigation of Boing I feel someone has to jump on now.
Please do basic research. He brought problems about boeing to light in 2017, seven years ago. This "testimony" he was going to give was in his own *civil* lawsuit against boeing accusing them of hurting his career, and what's more it was going to be the *second* day of his testimony, he already did one day of it. Doesn't it bother you leaping to conclusions without even knowing the facts?
@@demonicspire1345 does it really make sense though that in the middle of his civil lawsuit he just winds up dead due to "suicide"? i mean is their even evidence that he Mr. Barnett had suicidal thoughts prior? or at least some kind of mental health problems in the past?
@@blipblop888 I mean, yes, if you ask EMTs or people who regularly deal with suicides, you will learn that many people will do it when a sudden mood strike them. Just look at Anthony Bourdain's death for example. The guy had already retired from boeing previously for health problems, and he was suing boeing because he felt they were responsible for his career going nowhere. So a guy with health problems, also depressed about his career? Does it really make sense to kill someone 7 years after they already blew the whistle on them? Think of the downright catastrophic risk that poses for whoever in boeing would order such a thing. If they botched the job it would be the end of the company, and a long jail sentence, if not the death penalty for anyone involved in planning the hit. What exactly did they stand to gain by doing it *now*? Face it, this is a dumb take and you don't want to admit you're gullible.
Why would Boeing kill the guy SEVEN YEARS after he originally blew the whistle? The only person that said he didn't kill himself was his mother's friend's daughter. An aquintance he hardly knew. All of his immediate close family members said he killed himself.
@abintr0yeah exactly, how many of those ground staff who check the planes would of felt guilty. The only ones clearly not feeling too bad about it are the psychopaths in the boardrooms.
It's the higher ups' higher ups that ask them to step down so it doesn't stir up the pot any more. All the focus is on someone who just "stepped down" By the media.
John Barnett's murder was truly one of the few times that, quite literally, every single person I knew who I asked about this unanimously agreed that he was killed by Boeing. Boomers, Millennials, Gen Z, far right, far left, coworkers, family, friends, acquaintances. We all know the truth and all agree, for once, and nothing can be done about it. It sucks.
If trump was elected, something could be done for it you know? But you believe old joes lies! You I am so ashamed of you! There obvious lies aswell! Ridiculous!
Sadly, I think Boeing had too much too lose to act so blantantly. I'd rather say that was somebody closely related to all what is Boeing doing, someone interested to keep supplier and largerst exporter in business and with actual experience not only in bulling but in wet work. Any idea who might that be?
Technically, people who see the defects in Boeing planes caused by the Streisand effect of Barnett's death will absolutely now have a bias against Boeing's planes, and opt to ride others. Boeing, opting money over safety, has two options. Accept that their planes have safety issues and improve their planes, or accept the loss of revenue from their decreasing reputation in the public's perception. Alternatively, consumers absolutely have a choice as whether or not to ride Boeing planes due to their safety issues, which will have an effect on their revenue. Who knew that producing cheap and unsafe products would lose you money?
Do you know anyone who actually cares about evidence? Usually people who care about the truth also care about evidence, and one depressed man going "I'm not suicidal" and then killing himself anyway isn't evidence that anyone else ACTUALLY killed him.
When someone says "I'm not suicidal so if I end up dead..." you really gotta step back n take another good, long look at the situation. That is some shit to say right before being found dead from an apparent "suicide". Suspicious as fuhyuk.
Yep. I'm sure there are exceptions, but when people "do the thing" they almost never mention "doing the thing" to loved ones. On rare occasion they'll mention "doing the thing" when asking someone for help, which I've experienced before, but I've never heard of a case of someone telling loved ones "I won't do the thing" and then doing it -- with the sole exceptions of suspicious cases like this one, 3p$+31n, and John McAfee. (Saying "do the thing" and censoring the one guy's name because RUclips censors me for saying literally anything these days)
Its a double edged sword, because to truly protect himself he would have to post publicly with a video message about how he isnt suicidal every day, and if he did that with nothing happening eventually people lose interest and then.. it happens
Wouldn't really call it suspicious. There have been too many obvious "he suicided himself" situations. It's just blatant murder directly in the public eye that nobody really can do anything about.
as someone working in aviation the most unbelievable part to me is how boeing is saying that they no longer keep records of certain repairs. one of the first things i heard after entering the industry was that an aircraft doesn't fly until you have it's equal weight in paperwork. how do they think it's ok not to keep records???
Came up in a different lawsuit, losing evidence/proof of failure is a far less costly fine then proving you fucked it. Someone used a shredder or something, prob saved the company millions. Not that i think its good, but it is what it is
I work for a company that makes Boeing's engine parts and we literally have to keep all aircraft paperwork for like 25-30 years. I was moving a bunch of this paperwork and happened to see some of the dates on them and they went back to the mid 70's. They are full of b.s.
He stated to his family that if anything happened to him, Boeing was responsible for it, and that he would never kill himself. This happened the day before he was set to testify against Boeing. Nothing will happen to Boeing for this and that’s extremely scary seeing as they are a main contractor of the US defense department.
Two different companies. Sorta. They are the same company, but defense contractors don't have the same budgetary requirements. The two sides of the business fall on different balance sheets. Any large expenditure they can just charge to the US government as part of the contract, it's unlimited money. Boeing also cannot outsource as much, everything is classified so they can't hire subcontractors for subcontractors. So far as I know nothing has gone wrong with any of Boeings defense contracts. It's the civilian side where they are cutting corners.
I used to work for Boeing right before Covid hit the States and I had a lot of sus experiences over there. Funny enough, My boss who ran my department at the time admitted that Boeing doesn’t care about the plane safety and brushed it off as “Eh, Who cares, it was just one of two planes that crashed”. My job was to reorganize returns of parts from commercial and military equipment, here is what I experienced. 1. They had the most disorganized, most outdated system I had ever seen. Not only were the computers they were using outdated by almost 30 years, there was equipment that had not been processed as a return since the early 2000s. No one bothered to actually do their work and even ignored returns that are more than 20 years old. 2. I accidentally held very toxic equipment, more than once really, due to shipment being incorrectly transported to the wrong warehouse. And when I say they missed their shipment destination by 1,000s of miles, I’m not kidding. Not knowing what I would hold because I’m not trained to know, Management would tell me to just ignore it and not talk about it. Does that sound normal? 3. An employee made a very racist remark to an immigrant infront of the whole staff, in which everyone got pretty upset at what was said. After the meeting was over, I found out that the employee who made the racist comment walked away with no penalties. As a matter of fact, I was told to shut up and not talk about what was said. I of course told my team lead that I was absolutely going to report this, which was my fault that I even said anything. Next day, I got a call from Boeing that I was fired for “taking advantage of my lunch break and purposely showing up late to work” which never happened once. They absolutely fired me so I couldn’t say anything about what was going on at the warehouse. Boeing is a company that is on its way to becoming a Docuseries on Netflix and I have actually experience to confirm that.
Sounds like you should be one of the impassioned eyewitnesses in the docuseries, something to keep an eye out for. Edit: and probably with some identity protection given their track record...
Blackrock is one of Boeing’s top shareholders, who also own large shares of almost every major NATO manufacturer. Also the same company provided a government contract to ‘reconstruct’ Ukraine after the war is over…
That's what happens when you move from Experienced Workers for former Fast Food and Amazon Warehouse Workers for DEI Points. They moved from Bellevue Washington where they had a long time staff to South Carolina for Nikki Haley's DEI incentives. Low Income South Carolina.
Ive worked for the Navy, and in aviation for 15 years now. The fact this guy was murdered after 30 years of working for the company and ultimately trying to keep people safe has been, for me, one of the most painful examples of "The good guys don't win." Absolutely disturbing. Edit: wow, first comment to gain any traction. The whole situation given my experience with the industry and how these big companies operate just hurts. People might disagree he was murdered and that's fine, but that's all I see.
@@kristoffer3000 fact implies there's good evidence for it. You can't go "Its suspicious, therefore its murder" with 0 evidence of a murder taking place
@@LiviaReaper Its way more common in China, in fact its pretty much an open secret that the CCP will just make you disappear if they have a problem with you
It's so mindblowing how everyone seems to unanimously agree that his death is highly suspicious, to the point where it's very clear that it was "assisted suicide," yet no one wants to investigate the billion dollar company hiring essentially Pinkerton agents to off whistleblowers.
The fact that anyone even uses the term "suspicious" for this is a bit of an example of why they could have just done it live in front of a 100 million people while telling them why they're doing it, and it wouldn't matter for more than a few months lmfao
About to wrap up my bachelors in mechanical engineering. So many of my professors have been saying that this is what we must watch out for in the field. As engineers, we take an oath of putting safety of the public above all else. If you start working in a business, and you see such safety risks and have told your overhead with no avail, report them. No job is worth the lives of thousands.
yeah the oath lasts only till some situation arises and you're faced with no career progress, mansions devaluation, etc , just for speaking up on obvious issues, tell me how your first argument of "we've always done this, it saves time and it's never gone wrong" will go. bad practices for profit are way too common in today's world.
It does not. People trust our work. They put their lives into the hands of the engineers that build the bridges, planes, cars, and medical devices. If you stay silent, people die. And some folks (understandably) cannot afford to speak up. They have kids. Bills to pay. But by and large, we are not standing idly by. Usually on our teams, we are encouraged to discuss issues and report problems in a way that is safe. Obviously, that is not true everywhere. And some folks couldn't care less. But many of us still do have integrity.
@evanranger6497 Boeing is a military contractor and the only major American aircraft manufacturer. Boycotts won't work and if they do they'll just get bailed out with taxpayer money
Full disclosure, I am NOT any kind of subject matter expert. I'm just a guy who's interested in planes, manufacturing and logistics and I've worked in and around the industries for a few years. So this is just a ground level interpretation. Please do not take my words at face value and please listen to actual subject matter experts. From what I hear though, sounds like they agree with me. I was working for a small FAA Certified repair shop in Texas when the Ethiopian Air 737 went down in 2018. Now, our shop was like, 90% Embraer parts, and then the remaining 10% was a random assortment of exhaust ducts from various small carriers, as well as a sprinkling of Saudi Aramco helicopter ducts. Before my time, sometime in the previous 5 years, we did some work on a Boeing part. Don't think it was even remotely involved with the MCAS or any adjacent systems. FAA still came through and audited our chemical cabinet because they keep records on ALL THAT SHIT. Like FAA regulations are, when held to the theoretical standards, are kind of insane. That's why this whole situation kind of blows me away. Either, the FAA is corrupt, complicit or just fucking impotent, and/or Boeing has figured out how to stay under the radar somehow. Must be copying Lockheed's homework. Like the sheer diversity of safety violations I'm hearing cover so many different areas of the manufacturing and maintenance process that they just need to shut down the whole company. If the FAA does their job, they're gonna get fined into bankruptcy anyway. Like them reusing scrap metal; the repair guys used to do XRay scans of titantium flight rails (rails that allow the flaps on the wings to adjust postion to modify lift generated) to make sure there weren't any microscopic cracks within the interior of the metal. If the flap rail didn't meet minimum spec, everything about the part had to be documented, our QA guy (who used to work on F-111s in the air force back in the day) had to sign off on it, label the part as "scrap", and the part had to be moved to a dedicated, clearly labeled separate area of the shop set aside for scrap. It had to be intentionally destroyed (to the best of our ability and disposed of afterwards. The fact that employees manufacturing the planes still couple obstain scrap parts that didn't pass inspect and use them to manufacture the planes speaks to so many process violations that I'm scared to get on an Boeing plane, let alone a 737 Max. Or the fact that Boeing "Doesn't keep repair records for that part" BOEING WHAT THE FUCK?! (Writing this as I listen). That's a 10 lb bag of nope in a 5 lb bag.
It’s the fact that this guy worked for Boeing for SO long and the second that a whistleblower gets mentioned that he passed away just doesn’t settle well with me.
The thing that doesn’t settle well with me either is the fact that if trump loses everyone will die not just in America the entire world, all gone. So maybe we can stop it by voting trump?
It’s happened like twice recently, idk why everyone’s freaking out. Boeing planes fly thousands of flights a day, their incident rate is still extremely low
Boeing: He left behind a suicide note that read "I am not suicidal. I am happy and do not wish to die." Clearly the depressed thoughts of a suicidal man.
But why would they kill the guy? Everyone would obviously assume it’s them right? I think it’s more likely that they were killed by a rival company that wants to ruin their brand image.
@@coasterthekid8867He was due to testify against them, which could potentially cause actual legal repercussions for some of those responsible. It also doesn't matter if everyone knows if it is a conspiracy or not, since the apathetic response of "there's nothing we can do" means they basically get away with it. "Justice isn't pursued if no one is seeking retribution"
That's actually terrifying. My mom's always told me about how big companies send out assassins to kill whoever was putting them in a bad image. Really concerning.
And I bet tons of people in her life have cut her off and called her "crazy" for believing that. I barely talk to my family anymore because they would rather believe what they are told than think for themselves. Reach out to her if you still can.
The fact Boeing deliberately withheld crucial information about the MCAS system from the pilots to save money on pilot training still makes my blood boil to this day. The Lion and Ethiopian crashes were not accidents, they were murders.
Boeing kill innocent children almost every single day through the weapons they manufacturer and sell across the world. Worrying about their practices in commercial aviation travel compared to their business in destroying entire continents is like comparing a handgun to a nuclear weapon.
I'm a manufacturing quality analyst, this whole situation is like our equivalent of watching Live Leak; it's horrifying but you can't look away, there's a lot of stuff to learn from it. Companies shouldn't need Quality departments, but they do because the Quality personnel are like the prophets that try to keep the production management in check. In this case the quality team lost, and their prophesies of what would happen if quality was ignored is becoming real. Planes falling apart in the air, and a nationwide scandal that could bury the entire company.
@@ayoCCya, the whole reason the Ethiopian and Lion Air crashes happened was bc boeing favored profit over quality & safety, they deliberately hid the mcas from the manuals for the plane so they wouldn’t have to pay for simulator training. its fucked up
Dude, his own SISTER not only said he wouldn’t be the kind of person to suddenly commit suicide, but also that he said HIMSELF that he wasn’t suicidal. How could I believe Boeing or the “””autopsy””” after that? Dude knew what he was up against and covered his bases, RIP king.
He was flat out warning people before it happened that if he turned up dead it wasnt suicide. Its so obvious someone had him killed that if nothing happens then we well and truly have no actual justice system in our society.
I doubt anyone even sees this, but I’m an MBA and actually recently wrote an academic research analysis on the Boeing and McDonnell Douglas merger. While it’s commonly stated that Boeing was more an engineering company while McDonnell Douglas was a profit-driven company, it’s worth noting that McDonnell Douglas wasn’t profiting. The reason they acquired Boeing with Boeing’s money (common joke) is that what they did have was extremely valuable- extensive access, both insider and without, to defense contracts that Boeing wanted. This has since driven Boeing’s business decisions for decades and has seen multiple high-level executives forced to step down due to using insider access to get military contracts they otherwise wouldn’t have had access to. If you look at the company now, they’ve essentially abandoned focus on consumer aviation and are hyper focused on defense production.
That was what I was thinking, as it sounded unusual that they would somehow be high enough in the company to just infect it from the inside out, considering they obviously were not profiting enough to be able to pull a maneuver like that when merging.
I was actually supposed to be on that Ethiopian airlines flight that crashed in 2019. Absolutely crazy. I was booked for it a few weeks in advance and at the last minute I had to change my flight to a week later due to a delay in plans. When I heard of the crash I was horrified. The MCAS system mistook takeoff angle as stalling and nose dived the plane right off the runway. Talking about pilots fighting the system, they didn’t even have a chance. They had no idea it was even there, then suddenly had their controls overridden during take off with no time to react.
That's absolutely terrifying, I'm glad to hear you dodged that death sentence. RIP to all the victims, they didn't die to an accident, they were basically murdered
Fear of flying is NOT irrational, and I say that as someone who loves to fly. We get into metal tubes and hurtle through the air at absurd speeds. I will never begrudge someone for being scared.
wait until people find out about the giant tin cans operated by the average idiot who can't police their impulse anger especially under pressure at high speeds (cars)
fr like you're telling me flying 10000 meters at insane 900 km/h is irrational fear? we're not even designed to be in that kind of altitude, let alone being in an absurd speed!
Nope but I will begrudge someone for constantly reading crap that gives them further reason to fear flying. I can't really feel like your fear is warranted if you are only going to look up the accidents or read articles compounding the reason for your fear.
Boeing’s active decision to focus on profit over safety reminds me of the Ford Pinto situation. (They had an internal memo essentially saying it was cheaper to let the people die than to fix the cars.)
Reminds me of a scene from Fight Club: " - A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one. - Which car company do you work for? - A major one." This dialogue was based on IRL practices at GM and Ford.
The saddest part is nobody really had accountability for that, the same will happen here with Boeing. We are the country of fines and wrist slaps for such colossal failures, not actual justice.
After tests done on the Pinto during the lawsuit it was established that it was NOT the most dangerous car on the road and that the actual death count was WAY lower than the death count that was predicted by Ford. The story goes much deeper than what most people hear.
i’ve always hated the “flying is safer than diving a car” thing because while you might survive a car crash you most certainly won’t survive an airplane crash. it’s the fact that one little thing goes wrong and you are all plummeting to your certain death for me
omg I'm so glad someone agrees, i'm so tired of people telling me my fear of planes is "silly" and it's "so much safer then driving a car" I always thought i at least had a chance to survive and even had some control in the situation with a car crash whereas in a plane we all go down and only a couple people really have control. your placing your life in the hands of someone without knowing their intentions or knowing what could happen.I'd rather not.
honestly another thing. i know there are exceptions to this and it depends on the accident but for the most part in a car crash it's usually instantaneous, you dont really have time to sit and ponder that your life is in danger. whereas in a plane crash you're probably well aware for a good while that something is WRONG and you have zero control over any of it at all
@@lolzawowza4022 like if im gonna die i'd prefer it just be an instant thing where i only have a few seconds to process it as opposed to hypothetically spending hours on a doomed vessel (like, when they lose all control over hydraulics and basically just spend hours flying erratically until the plane runs out of fuel with zero control over the plane, which is my worst nightmare tbh) knowing that when it finally crashes i have an extremely low chance of surviving it
I worked at Boeing for 13 years and left a bit after Stoneciphers reign. As an engineer it always felt like the business people drove the company and technical direction.
Capitalism society. Business men only care about the profit, as much profit. Cutting down on what those uneducated business men think are not important costs : employees, materials. Capitalism makes people much more selfish…. As long as they themselves don’t die they are okay with it LOL
My grandad was a ball turret gunner on a Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress during ww2. He and his crew were shot down 6 times over the course of the war. They named their final plane The Phantom because of how many times they went down only to come back. He was very proud of the Boeing name. If he was alive today I think he’d be very ashamed of what the company has become.
@@HaroldMarina2010Many of the Royal Airforce's Hurricanes were also famously resilient. Countless of them have been shred to pieces mid-air by gunfire, managed to land and make repairs, fly back to base, and be repaired to fly again. I'm fairly sure countless bomber-class high-altitude planes suffered similar fates :p
It’s crazy being in school studying aviation management while all this is happening because all my professors who have so many connections to the industry keep ripping on boeing as an example for this
That is interesting. I had a buddy that got a business degree in that 12 years ago. He is a flight planning manager for Westjet here in Canada. Being a supply chain/finance guy myself a lot of that stuff sounds interesting. I work in the energy industry on the power side.
i just dont get it boeing has a networth of over 100 BILLION they are literally too big to fail and yet the though to putting pennies to the side toward things like safety and training was too much for them.
@@kumaye9446 it's what happens when you have greedy rats shareholders and CEOs prioritising money over lives. The CEO himself is an accountant so that explains A LOT. They could just let engineers do their job and Boeing would still be a powerhouse but ironically in their quest to maximise profits it only brought down stocks. The sad part is the CEO got his sweet million dollars pay and "step down" from Boeing and other companies would be quick to hire him like he didn't just destroyed a billionaire company. So fcking stupid
I have family who works for Boeing. And while all this was happening, they were getting finned, they were doing cuts, layoffs, freezing bonuses for employees, freezing cost of living raises, but the CEO himself still got a multi million dollar Christmas bonus each year. LOL
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I worked at an aircraft maintenance company. Basically they received aircraft engines and APUs, took them apart, fixed whatever was wrong with them, and sent it back to the customer to be reinstalled. They took a lot of safety precautions. Most notably, during training they had a 30 min talk on FOD (foreign object and debris) and the steps to mitigate FOD from entering into aircraft parts. A lot of my coworkers there took it seriously too. One time I left a notebook and pen on one of the workbenches with the intention of coming back to it after I've done my task. When I came back to pick it up, a coworker yelled at me for being careless and leaving FOD on the shopfloor unsupervised. Most aircraft companies are very strict about this. Boeing however doesn't care about this. I once heard a story of Boeing leaving an entire step ladder in their plane's fuselage and I think it made it past the quality inspection
@@titann3546 Unless it's Boeing, in which case you are probably going to crash. And probably going to die in said crash. And if you managed to survive, they'll find you, and they'll help you undo that mistake.
I use to work at a major airport for years. One of my duties was pre aircraft inspection before the mechanic does the initial check prior to take off. A lot them are over worked and underpaid. I remember at least twice reporting cracks on an aircraft wing, to which I was told mark it. 10mins later here comes the duct-tape. First time I saw it happen I was shocked and even questioned the remedy. According to the answer I revived it's industry standard. Changed my view on flying.
as a pilot I'm glad you're talking about this to a big audience, not a lot of people know much about the 737 max debacle, just to add the point about the aoa sensor, they also only had one sensor. in aviation redundancies save lives, they were also liable to get put out of the correct position by ground crews. the scary part is Boeing isn't the only big player in aviation that's this negligent.
9:00 That was the worst part about this: It cannot always be corrected by pilot action. The condition is called a 'Stab Runaway'. Once the horizontal stabilizer deflects past a critical angle, the force required to restore the stab-trim is beyond human. This is what happened in the case of the Ethiopian Airlines crash. The co-pilot realized it was an MCAS malfunction and tried to trim the stabilizer manually, but he just couldnt.
Yeah, they had 10 sec to figure out what's wrong while fighting with the aircraft with no centralized warning system. After 10 sec the forces would be too much even if you turned off the stab trim, it is unrecoverable at that point
@@NigerianCrusader u think the president of the united states dictates this? u think think the president isnt corrupt? if u genuinely dont think worse things happen and are happening u are delusional. its not a secret that the CIA is shady and that the president is a figurehead.
scary fun fact, when the Mcas system was at its worst, pilots would need to have shut off the system within 10 seconds of the malfunction to be able to save the flight at all, it was recorded that there was a pilot able to shut it off but it was too late and the plane crashed anyway.
The Ethiopian flight pilots used the trim checklist. By the time it was complete they couldn't save themselves. They turned the MCAS back on : they hoped whatever fault caused would rectify itself, the equivalent of rebooting a computer to get round a frozen state. (The Voice recorder revealed they turned the MCAS back on as the last chance. )
Its truly fed up how, OBVIOUS this is. The literal boogieman holding the bloody knife saying "no he did it." And theres just... Nothing can be done. To big to fail.
@@ExtraVictory to be fair, I think most people these days know how crappy and unfair our situation is (as a whole-ass species, more or less) it's just that us common folk don't have the power to change it and the people with power have a vested interest in keeping things the way they are...
@@darkpulsegirl2654 its true that people are more aware now but not aware enough. You don't need to be a 120 billion dollar megacorp to get away with murder. My parents could probably do so and they're just regular rich people (professional landlords) Of course im not trying to be ungrateful or anything im grateful every day but from this vantage point it couldn't be more clear how immensely stacked the deck is
@@darkpulsegirl2654this exactly! Sure, people like us can’t stand that people are basically OPENLY assassinated and no one seems to care, but I’m a nobody with a wife and twins. NOBODY cares what I say.
Can we talk about how absolutely messed up it is that Boeing stock began recovering once the whistleblower died? Like, "whew, we can start buying again."
As opposed to what? A company going after some dude for stuff he said about them? He so obviously did it to himself. Now if you want to say that boeing caused him to do it to himself that’s another thing entirely
It’s so crazy that Boeing came to my school to talk to us abt how good it is and I was actually hooked into it and then I see this story the very next day
24:34 you don't need to get rid of all whistleblowers to make them go away, you just need to make an example of one of them, this was totally done by Boeing, they must be dismantled.
i work at a company that contracts for Boeing in Washington, and almost nothing is getting done because of the FAA's investigation. Production at Boeing is almost at a complete stop, and most of the people I work with think Boeing killed the guy.
As a former Aerospace tech worker, I can tell you that General/Private aviation outside of commercial aircraft is regulated a lot more than the airlines. It's sad that these big companies are allowed to put a price on the lives of humans to appease shareholders. It's the American way. We are all in agreement that Barnett was silenced. The media blackout on the story is wild.
I’m a computer engineering student at Wisconsin right now. Every engineer is required to take an engineering ethics class as part of a graduation requirement. That class has an entire unit focused on how the Boeing merger destroyed Boeing and why they’re falling apart. It is mostly because of military contracted deadlines. Demanding things be done in a fraction of the time they need. This video covers it fairly well. It’s very interesting and sad stuff.
Friendly reminder Thomas Pynchon once worked for Boeing's technical division in the early 1960's and has almost never been photographed or seen in public since he quit. He once went so far as to jump out of a bathroom window when journalists arrived at his location in Mexico after his first novel, V., was published and then rode a bus almost 1000km into the mountains just to avoid being photographed.
I’ve met the guy who blew the whistle on big tobacco several times. My guy had to literally run from hitmen and be put into witness protection with his entire family, while staying 100% silent, hiding the documents even from authorities while the FBI built their case and got the lost solid foundation for the trial thst they could, he had to be the very last piece to the case and in the meantime he literally had people that he had to physically run from. This man was a researcher for big tobacco who was one on a team of two or three people who discovered that nicotine is deadly, the tobacco execs told him to keep that quiet after they made him invent nicotine free cigarettes and found out they weren’t addictive. This man probably did not kill himself.
You and me both Charlie. People tend to misconstrue that my fear of flying means I've never flown; the reality being I used to fly to NYC every summer to see family, I have done the 9 hour flight to Ireland to see my homeland and family, but flying just scares the shit out of me. My argument to anyone about it being safer than driving is " if my engine cuts out in my car, I don't plummet 30,000 feet". Now with all this going on, and me having to look at flights in order to see my sister...let's just say this has not eased my fears
Reasons why my dad left Boeing during the developing process of 787 Dreamliner in late 2000 for better opportunities. As he said to me, years of restless nights as a safety engineer fighting management for their choices following the saying "More for Less" and to do whats right.
Flying is really safe especially compared to cars but it’s a real slap to the face with all these companies cheapie out on safety protocols and the same time charging the highest prices for tickets they ever have and overselling tickets on purpose leaving people stranded like that one Asian doctor that got beat up by security etc 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻
@itz_me_beautiful_devil_21 lmao, only 3 kids? that's pretty weak for a girl, try to be stronger than 6 kids, better yet, try to be stronger than 3 men-
I work at Boeing Portland. Over 16 years now. The funny thing is, it's been drilled into my head since day one that quality is of top importance. There has been multiple times where we have shut down production due to a quality issue that we found. That said, my location is union. So we have very little fear of repercussions for bringing up quality issues. Can't speak for other sites. That said, the "suicide" is definitely suspicious.
There’s no way he was not assassinated. They elected to kill him in the truck so they could be certain it was him and did not alert hotel staff. He was on his way to the deposition where they knew he would be. They likely had multiple people at multiple hotels on a lookout for him. It likely came from the CEO or on behalf of the CEO and why he was forced to resign by the board after the board forced him to stop work and took over..
@@glowormshe could of said tho so when he did it made it seem like a murder. Clearly its sketch and that plus the gvn still being in his hand plus court the next day all makes mvrder much more likely I just thought I'd point out that it's kind of dumb to completely rule out svicide or act like him saying that the day before is some smoking gun like if I hated someone badly enough and didn't think I'd be able to get them arrested without being k1lled I'd commit svuicide like that and make it seem like a murder. Personally I think it's more than likely a mvrder I just don't think him saying what he said is definitive proof
He told his mother he was planning to drive home but the Boeing lawyers insisted he stay just one more day. All of his belongings were neatly folded and packed ready to leave when his body was found.
@Haarschmuckfachgeschafttadpole yeah it was a tragic suicide, complete suicide because he hilled himself and there was no wrongdoing by any airplane company protecting their bottomline no just suicide
Hey, I have personal experience here We don't use dawn dish soap as a lubricant, we use it to check for leaks. In fact we don't use just dawn for leaks, it is primarily a water solution with a little bit of dish soap inside it to make the bubbles easier to identify for technicians. I'd be severely alarmed if I found pure dish soap as a lubricant for the doors on our aircrafts especially considering usually these parts not only come with their own lubricants, but also have listed lubricants and several backup suitable supplements that can fill the role, as well as there is an entire section of maintenance that exist to only lubricate things on the aircraft that needs lubricated. So whoever installed that door intentionally wrongfully did it, and it had probably been installed for less than 6 months or a year
Can confirm this is all true. My grandfather worked for Boeing and many other aerospace companies. He always uses dawn and water to check for leaks. Old habits die hard.
The design flaw of the Boeing 737 was actually an essential part of a first yr Engineering course we had to take so it's kinda interesting hearing the same details lol.
I was recently employed by Boeing as a contractor to investigate the pressure dome issue, which is the wall located at the rear of the aircraft. I collaborated with engineers and QA during this project. Working for Boeing was quite chaotic as there was a lack of clear direction right from the beginning. Despite the challenges, we were compensated well to assist in resolving this issue and other recurring problems that were causing delays in aircraft deliveries. Having previously worked in the Air Force, transitioning to the commercial side of Boeing made me realize that they may not adhere strictly to established guidelines. It was disappointing to see that even their employees did not always follow technical instructions. I raised my concerns with management, only to be told that this was the standard practice.
This reminds me a lot of ocean gate where they built the submersible because it was supposed to be an impenetrable submarine that can lead passengers to the wreckage of the titanic, only for the submersible to implode itself from the pressure inside the ocean after submersing in the water, killing all 5 rich men including the CEO, These corporations deserves to receive lawsuits.
my uncle is a pilot, he used to fly commercial but his company was grounded for nearly 2 years because of an accident involving a plane with poor maintenance. the suits in charge only care about making as much profit as possible, safety and quality be damned
It's quite important you keep talking about this at given opportunities. Though, sadly I think we all know nobody is truly going to get caught for this. The documentary film when we're all old dying men will be damn interesting to watch with a beer though.
This wasn't silencing at all. If their plan was to shut the dude up, it failed miserably as even more people are talking about it now after finding out about the whistleblower's death. Streisand Effect right out the ass.
For me, the craziest part of all this is that Boeing didn't tell a SINGLE pilot about the MCAS system. Like imagine buying a Toyota Prius and vigorously reading the instruction manual, and not being told in there that the car has a "steering correction" system that can override what you're doing and steer the car for you without your consent. Good god.
I actually work at a company that makes the frames for boeing planes and it would actually be impossible to follow all the quality checks and also hit our required numbers every day, which if we don't hit our numbers, we get written up.
Boeing pulled a "he committed suicide by 17 bullets to the head, strapped to a chair, hit himself with a baseball bat 34 times". But rest in peace John Barnett.
@PringleAhhPringle
He got Epsteined
In Europe it's "He accidently fell on a knife, 17 times in a row". I think something very like that has actually been said in a courtroom.
Also wth why is it 17 both times?
@@masansrto show people how “suicidal they are”
It's almost certain that he headed off a lot of safety issues with his diligence and saved many lives. RIP indeed.
He died by "suicide" literally the night before he was supposed to testify in court about the very things he was trying to bring light to... So you really mean to tell me this man did a complete 180 and decide, "oh this very thing and information I've been trying to go public isn't that important anymore"....
If you wanna go public with something, isn't the internet the easiest way. And probably the most effective.
Although he did become a martyr for a huge investigation of Boing I feel someone has to jump on now.
Please do basic research. He brought problems about boeing to light in 2017, seven years ago. This "testimony" he was going to give was in his own *civil* lawsuit against boeing accusing them of hurting his career, and what's more it was going to be the *second* day of his testimony, he already did one day of it. Doesn't it bother you leaping to conclusions without even knowing the facts?
@@demonicspire1345 does it really make sense though that in the middle of his civil lawsuit he just winds up dead due to "suicide"?
i mean is their even evidence that he Mr. Barnett had suicidal thoughts prior? or at least some kind of mental health problems in the past?
@@blipblop888 I mean, yes, if you ask EMTs or people who regularly deal with suicides, you will learn that many people will do it when a sudden mood strike them. Just look at Anthony Bourdain's death for example. The guy had already retired from boeing previously for health problems, and he was suing boeing because he felt they were responsible for his career going nowhere. So a guy with health problems, also depressed about his career?
Does it really make sense to kill someone 7 years after they already blew the whistle on them? Think of the downright catastrophic risk that poses for whoever in boeing would order such a thing. If they botched the job it would be the end of the company, and a long jail sentence, if not the death penalty for anyone involved in planning the hit.
What exactly did they stand to gain by doing it *now*? Face it, this is a dumb take and you don't want to admit you're gullible.
@@blipblop888 There's zero evidence of suicidal thoughts in his past. He deadass told his family if he died, it's not suicide
yea, im sure he died of suicide after he told everyone he knew he wasent suicidal, so crazy how he was a whistleblower too
Why would Boeing kill the guy SEVEN YEARS after he originally blew the whistle? The only person that said he didn't kill himself was his mother's friend's daughter. An aquintance he hardly knew. All of his immediate close family members said he killed himself.
bro he rose concerns about the production standards. Hes not fucking snowden.Your worldview of the deep state bullshit isn't true
Everyone knows it was a targeted aßaßination, Boeing trying to act like they weren't responsible is hilarious to see because no one believes them.
He is one of the biggest whistleblowers in aviation history who just happened to die by suicide. A big coincidence if you ask me.
Shortly before he was set to testify as well! Truly coincidences are crazy!
You telling me it’s completely possible that the pilots died thinking it was their fault the plane went down, that’s sickening.
That is f*cked honestly
Well that is truly insult to injury to these pilots chosen to roll the dice w/o knowing it.
Lets give it up for Lockheed Martin I guess.
Oh my god I didn’t realize that. That’s so horrible. May they rest in peace
@@ferrisbueller9991or airbus, just not boeing
@abintr0yeah exactly, how many of those ground staff who check the planes would of felt guilty.
The only ones clearly not feeling too bad about it are the psychopaths in the boardrooms.
I hate how higher-ups can avoid any repercussions by simply "stepping down"
It's the higher ups' higher ups that ask them to step down so it doesn't stir up the pot any more. All the focus is on someone who just "stepped down" By the media.
It’s fine they’ll step down into nothin but hell fire after they meet their maker
Only to find themnself in similar position in another company... yeah its sickening. What can you do?
I hope DOJ prosecute those Boeing Executives and Managers before they're stepping down. Accountability !!
@@Jubanen12 I've got an answer, and by me I mean the blood god Khorne has an answer. His answer is effective and does, in fact, work.
John Barnett's murder was truly one of the few times that, quite literally, every single person I knew who I asked about this unanimously agreed that he was killed by Boeing. Boomers, Millennials, Gen Z, far right, far left, coworkers, family, friends, acquaintances. We all know the truth and all agree, for once, and nothing can be done about it. It sucks.
If trump was elected, something could be done for it you know? But you believe old joes lies! You I am so ashamed of you! There obvious lies aswell! Ridiculous!
Sadly, I think Boeing had too much too lose to act so blantantly. I'd rather say that was somebody closely related to all what is Boeing doing, someone interested to keep supplier and largerst exporter in business and with actual experience not only in bulling but in wet work. Any idea who might that be?
Technically, people who see the defects in Boeing planes caused by the Streisand effect of Barnett's death will absolutely now have a bias against Boeing's planes, and opt to ride others. Boeing, opting money over safety, has two options. Accept that their planes have safety issues and improve their planes, or accept the loss of revenue from their decreasing reputation in the public's perception. Alternatively, consumers absolutely have a choice as whether or not to ride Boeing planes due to their safety issues, which will have an effect on their revenue. Who knew that producing cheap and unsafe products would lose you money?
Do you know anyone who actually cares about evidence? Usually people who care about the truth also care about evidence, and one depressed man going "I'm not suicidal" and then killing himself anyway isn't evidence that anyone else ACTUALLY killed him.
Encourage everyone to write to their senators, house representatives, the US AG, and the FAA.
When someone says "I'm not suicidal so if I end up dead..." you really gotta step back n take another good, long look at the situation. That is some shit to say right before being found dead from an apparent "suicide". Suspicious as fuhyuk.
Yep. I'm sure there are exceptions, but when people "do the thing" they almost never mention "doing the thing" to loved ones. On rare occasion they'll mention "doing the thing" when asking someone for help, which I've experienced before, but I've never heard of a case of someone telling loved ones "I won't do the thing" and then doing it -- with the sole exceptions of suspicious cases like this one, 3p$+31n, and John McAfee.
(Saying "do the thing" and censoring the one guy's name because RUclips censors me for saying literally anything these days)
Its a double edged sword, because to truly protect himself he would have to post publicly with a video message about how he isnt suicidal every day, and if he did that with nothing happening eventually people lose interest and then.. it happens
@@AngryAlfonseJohn McAfee is a sole case where I legitimately think he would say "I won't do the thing" and then do the thing just to confuse people
"Suspicious"
Pretty pathetic seeing people say this tbh
Wouldn't really call it suspicious. There have been too many obvious "he suicided himself" situations. It's just blatant murder directly in the public eye that nobody really can do anything about.
"Boeing; if our planes dont kill you, we will."
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Lmao
That is probably accurate
@@GreyGhost-r4z probably? It’s written on their website
Best advertisement ever
as someone working in aviation the most unbelievable part to me is how boeing is saying that they no longer keep records of certain repairs. one of the first things i heard after entering the industry was that an aircraft doesn't fly until you have it's equal weight in paperwork. how do they think it's ok not to keep records???
Came up in a different lawsuit, losing evidence/proof of failure is a far less costly fine then proving you fucked it. Someone used a shredder or something, prob saved the company millions. Not that i think its good, but it is what it is
you know why
I work for a company that makes Boeing's engine parts and we literally have to keep all aircraft paperwork for like 25-30 years. I was moving a bunch of this paperwork and happened to see some of the dates on them and they went back to the mid 70's. They are full of b.s.
@@Redeyez2424 this was corroborated by multiple engineers in court under oath lol. you're full of bs
@@Brandon82967 k
If the plane is boeing, we ain't going
Words to live by... quite literally
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@OfficerVuuduuimagine threatening someone and telling them to subscribe to you to cure a damn curse
@OfficerVuuduulike/reply to this comment for a free pass
@Vuuduudon't not self delete.
He stated to his family that if anything happened to him, Boeing was responsible for it, and that he would never kill himself. This happened the day before he was set to testify against Boeing. Nothing will happen to Boeing for this and that’s extremely scary seeing as they are a main contractor of the US defense department.
And the corrupt DOJ for the current administration will do nothing about it
Cyberpunk be looking really realistic with each passing day
Corpos @@crossfire4691
Two different companies. Sorta. They are the same company, but defense contractors don't have the same budgetary requirements. The two sides of the business fall on different balance sheets. Any large expenditure they can just charge to the US government as part of the contract, it's unlimited money. Boeing also cannot outsource as much, everything is classified so they can't hire subcontractors for subcontractors. So far as I know nothing has gone wrong with any of Boeings defense contracts. It's the civilian side where they are cutting corners.
@PringleAhhu forgot the period. stop just typing that n go tuck it bih
I used to work for Boeing right before Covid hit the States and I had a lot of sus experiences over there. Funny enough, My boss who ran my department at the time admitted that Boeing doesn’t care about the plane safety and brushed it off as “Eh, Who cares, it was just one of two planes that crashed”. My job was to reorganize returns of parts from commercial and military equipment, here is what I experienced.
1. They had the most disorganized, most outdated system I had ever seen. Not only were the computers they were using outdated by almost 30 years, there was equipment that had not been processed as a return since the early 2000s. No one bothered to actually do their work and even ignored returns that are more than 20 years old.
2. I accidentally held very toxic equipment, more than once really, due to shipment being incorrectly transported to the wrong warehouse. And when I say they missed their shipment destination by 1,000s of miles, I’m not kidding. Not knowing what I would hold because I’m not trained to know, Management would tell me to just ignore it and not talk about it. Does that sound normal?
3. An employee made a very racist remark to an immigrant infront of the whole staff, in which everyone got pretty upset at what was said. After the meeting was over, I found out that the employee who made the racist comment walked away with no penalties. As a matter of fact, I was told to shut up and not talk about what was said. I of course told my team lead that I was absolutely going to report this, which was my fault that I even said anything.
Next day, I got a call from Boeing that I was fired for “taking advantage of my lunch break and purposely showing up late to work” which never happened once. They absolutely fired me so I couldn’t say anything about what was going on at the warehouse. Boeing is a company that is on its way to becoming a Docuseries on Netflix and I have actually experience to confirm that.
Can't wait to see a movie about this.
Sounds like you should be one of the impassioned eyewitnesses in the docuseries, something to keep an eye out for.
Edit: and probably with some identity protection given their track record...
You still alive???
Joke btw
Not a docuseries but a documentary; Downfall: The Case Against Boeing.
@darwisybaqir5877Everything there is a souvenir you can literally tear everyting off with no effort
Boeing IS a military contractor, they would absolutely assasinate someone
This all up and down the street till next Sunday.
Blackrock is one of Boeing’s top shareholders, who also own large shares of almost every major NATO manufacturer. Also the same company provided a government contract to ‘reconstruct’ Ukraine after the war is over…
@@DoBap_blackrock owns a lot of almost everything, that’s what an investment firm does.
People just repeat things theyve recently heard. Horrible conclusion too. Its like saying kitchen knive companys will kill bc they make weapons
@@TheAcidicMolotov there is sheep like u evrywhere thats why they can do what ever they want
15:09 are we not going to mention the fact that 37% of the planes tested failed the inspection? That is FUCKING TERRIFYING
Whats more terrifying, is that there are planes still making it past inspection. clearly, if they are falling apart mid flight.
37 percent is people's favourite choice when asked for a random number, according to Veritasium 😃
That's what happens when you move from Experienced Workers for former Fast Food and Amazon Warehouse Workers for DEI Points. They moved from Bellevue Washington where they had a long time staff to South Carolina for Nikki Haley's DEI incentives. Low Income South Carolina.
BRO WHAT???
@@crystalfire6677😂😂😂
Remember, Charlie is not suicidal...
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@@TSMKstudiosactually, true spam
We gotta make this comment upvoted more I’m actually a little worried
@@TSMKstudiosit’s a bot
@PringleAhh *Chip*
We need a “I survived a Boeing flight” t-shirt
and a book
They need a I SURVIVED WORKING AT THE LAZY B.
I guess the sales of that shirt would be going down like their planes
Boeing hasn't learned about the Streisand Effect yet
Thats a free target sign which literally calls "Get me boing your Planes were working"
Ive worked for the Navy, and in aviation for 15 years now. The fact this guy was murdered after 30 years of working for the company and ultimately trying to keep people safe has been, for me, one of the most painful examples of "The good guys don't win." Absolutely disturbing.
Edit: wow, first comment to gain any traction. The whole situation given my experience with the industry and how these big companies operate just hurts. People might disagree he was murdered and that's fine, but that's all I see.
It is def not a "fact" that he was murdered lol
@@valith1937 Sure bud
He got Epstein'd
@@kristoffer3000 fact implies there's good evidence for it. You can't go "Its suspicious, therefore its murder" with 0 evidence of a murder taking place
What’s life like on a aircraft carrier
"If anything happens to me it's not suicide." WOOOOOW. The worst part is I am not surprised and this kind of thing probably happens all the time.
more than people would think
A LOT more than people think
Seth Rich.
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@@LiviaReaper
Its way more common in China, in fact its pretty much an open secret that the CCP will just make you disappear if they have a problem with you
It’s called Boeing because that’s the sound it makes when their wheels fall off.
Edit, men in black suits are now at my door.
NAH YOU DID NOT JUST "BOING" THIS 😭 😭 😭
Boeing 747 casualties
Boeing 737 parts missing
Why the is the curse. Cannot brainwashed me. I @OfficerVuuduu
@OfficerVuuduushut the hell up lit nobody gives a shit
@OfficerVuuduucurse can not real. Idiot cannot the cursing me. I am infertile. The
Lost someone I knew really well on the Ethiopian airlines crash, RIP Micah.. Just a really nice guy going to do some volunteer UN work
Damn, rest in peace to a true G
@themakerstoolbox9688what's the joke?
May he rest in peace 😢
@@helpPSYCHOThis is very immature and inconsiderate of you. Please take your comment down.
@@helpPSYCHOgrow up, bud
It's so mindblowing how everyone seems to unanimously agree that his death is highly suspicious, to the point where it's very clear that it was "assisted suicide," yet no one wants to investigate the billion dollar company hiring essentially Pinkerton agents to off whistleblowers.
'essentially'
honestly it could have actually been them
The fact that anyone even uses the term "suspicious" for this is a bit of an example of why they could have just done it live in front of a 100 million people while telling them why they're doing it, and it wouldn't matter for more than a few months lmfao
Welcome to America
Privilege of being a key contractor to the strongest military in the world
@@Astroqualia LOL you think this type of thing is exclusive to America?
Welcome to the modern world
About to wrap up my bachelors in mechanical engineering. So many of my professors have been saying that this is what we must watch out for in the field. As engineers, we take an oath of putting safety of the public above all else. If you start working in a business, and you see such safety risks and have told your overhead with no avail, report them. No job is worth the lives of thousands.
Your "oath" lasts till your first juicy paycheck.
yeah the oath lasts only till some situation arises and you're faced with no career progress, mansions devaluation, etc , just for speaking up on obvious issues, tell me how your first argument of "we've always done this, it saves time and it's never gone wrong" will go. bad practices for profit are way too common in today's world.
are you Canadian? Where I'm from we don't have an oath
This. Hold on to your integrity.
Because somewhere in the pipeline is someone without it.
It does not.
People trust our work. They put their lives into the hands of the engineers that build the bridges, planes, cars, and medical devices.
If you stay silent, people die.
And some folks (understandably) cannot afford to speak up. They have kids. Bills to pay.
But by and large, we are not standing idly by. Usually on our teams, we are encouraged to discuss issues and report problems in a way that is safe.
Obviously, that is not true everywhere. And some folks couldn't care less. But many of us still do have integrity.
We really gotta start holding these corporations accountable. This stuff isn’t a conspiracy
ha like that'll ever happen.
Need to boycott, boycott, boycott, and then wait for the vigilantes to do their worst to CEOs
It literally, by definition, is a conspiracy theory.
As if anyone can hold them accountable. That ship has sailed a long time ago.
@evanranger6497 Boeing is a military contractor and the only major American aircraft manufacturer. Boycotts won't work and if they do they'll just get bailed out with taxpayer money
If he was suicidal he would have simply booked a flight with Boing
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@@bullshitdepartmentcringe attempt at pointing out cringe
@@carpinado3089 cope
@@carpinado3089get a life man 😂
Boeing would be the type of company to “send someone” to Charlie’s house
They'll send the Pinkertons. Hear they love working for mega corporations.
Straight, white, single, redneck, racist, and proud of it. Heeellll yeah Trump 2024
Nah it’s all alleged
Stop writing Sanskrit here....@OfficerVuuduu
Well, whoever they send will prolly get educated on the differences between clips and mags.
Airports are now letting passengers bring drills and tools in their carry on luggage, so they can do the plane maintenance themselves
Is that really true?
Me when I purposefully spread misinformation on the internet
@@miacasual1263I've heard of this comment, but with all the insanity today I really wonder if it's true
@@Thaxton-b8iyou gotta be special kind of dumb to believe that😂
No, the guy was joking@@Thaxton-b8i
Full disclosure, I am NOT any kind of subject matter expert. I'm just a guy who's interested in planes, manufacturing and logistics and I've worked in and around the industries for a few years. So this is just a ground level interpretation. Please do not take my words at face value and please listen to actual subject matter experts. From what I hear though, sounds like they agree with me.
I was working for a small FAA Certified repair shop in Texas when the Ethiopian Air 737 went down in 2018. Now, our shop was like, 90% Embraer parts, and then the remaining 10% was a random assortment of exhaust ducts from various small carriers, as well as a sprinkling of Saudi Aramco helicopter ducts. Before my time, sometime in the previous 5 years, we did some work on a Boeing part. Don't think it was even remotely involved with the MCAS or any adjacent systems. FAA still came through and audited our chemical cabinet because they keep records on ALL THAT SHIT. Like FAA regulations are, when held to the theoretical standards, are kind of insane.
That's why this whole situation kind of blows me away. Either, the FAA is corrupt, complicit or just fucking impotent, and/or Boeing has figured out how to stay under the radar somehow. Must be copying Lockheed's homework. Like the sheer diversity of safety violations I'm hearing cover so many different areas of the manufacturing and maintenance process that they just need to shut down the whole company. If the FAA does their job, they're gonna get fined into bankruptcy anyway.
Like them reusing scrap metal; the repair guys used to do XRay scans of titantium flight rails (rails that allow the flaps on the wings to adjust postion to modify lift generated) to make sure there weren't any microscopic cracks within the interior of the metal. If the flap rail didn't meet minimum spec, everything about the part had to be documented, our QA guy (who used to work on F-111s in the air force back in the day) had to sign off on it, label the part as "scrap", and the part had to be moved to a dedicated, clearly labeled separate area of the shop set aside for scrap. It had to be intentionally destroyed (to the best of our ability and disposed of afterwards. The fact that employees manufacturing the planes still couple obstain scrap parts that didn't pass inspect and use them to manufacture the planes speaks to so many process violations that I'm scared to get on an Boeing plane, let alone a 737 Max.
Or the fact that Boeing "Doesn't keep repair records for that part" BOEING WHAT THE FUCK?! (Writing this as I listen). That's a 10 lb bag of nope in a 5 lb bag.
wow.
A great comment I saw: "If he wanted to commit suicide, he would've just booked a flight on a Boeing plane"
FAA was fully aware, they just didn't care
It’s the fact that this guy worked for Boeing for SO long and the second that a whistleblower gets mentioned that he passed away just doesn’t settle well with me.
Boeing apparently makes all its money from killing people.
The thing that doesn’t settle well with me either is the fact that if trump loses everyone will die not just in America the entire world, all gone. So maybe we can stop it by voting trump?
BRO COME ON YOU DELETED MY COMMENT I WAS TRYING TO WARN YOU ABOUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF TRUMP LOSES AND YOU DELETED IT WE ARE DOOMED
@PringleAhhVOTE TRUMP PLEASE DONT TALK ABOUT YOUR CHIPS 🍟
@@NigerianCrusaderChips
Shit falling off Boeings airplanes is genuinely terrifying, imagine your house getting hit by an airplane tire while your just chilling watching TV
@PringleAhh u forgot the period
@itz_me_beautiful_devil_21 how is that crazy
It’s happened like twice recently, idk why everyone’s freaking out. Boeing planes fly thousands of flights a day, their incident rate is still extremely low
The plot of donny darko.
@@couchpotatoes5158 its that it isnt supposed to happen at all. Not once.
Boeing: He left behind a suicide note that read "I am not suicidal. I am happy and do not wish to die." Clearly the depressed thoughts of a suicidal man.
But why would they kill the guy? Everyone would obviously assume it’s them right? I think it’s more likely that they were killed by a rival company that wants to ruin their brand image.
@@coasterthekid8867Airbus: OH NO! THEY'RE ON TO US!
@@coasterthekid8867what we gonna do bout it? Make some RUclips videos …🤷♂️ bleak world rn
@@coasterthekid8867He was due to testify against them, which could potentially cause actual legal repercussions for some of those responsible. It also doesn't matter if everyone knows if it is a conspiracy or not, since the apathetic response of "there's nothing we can do" means they basically get away with it.
"Justice isn't pursued if no one is seeking retribution"
6:47 Adding a new system to the plane without informing the pilots. What an absolutely genius decision by Boeing!
Not only that, a software that puts the nose down, and which source of information is one single sensor of the AoA!
That's actually terrifying. My mom's always told me about how big companies send out assassins to kill whoever was putting them in a bad image. Really concerning.
@PringleAhh salsa?
Literally cyberpunk happening now
Concerning.
She was probably talking about Karen Silkwood. She was a journalist killed by a nuclear plant for blowing the whistle on their safety practices.
And I bet tons of people in her life have cut her off and called her "crazy" for believing that. I barely talk to my family anymore because they would rather believe what they are told than think for themselves. Reach out to her if you still can.
The fact Boeing deliberately withheld crucial information about the MCAS system from the pilots to save money on pilot training still makes my blood boil to this day.
The Lion and Ethiopian crashes were not accidents, they were murders.
Boeing kill innocent children almost every single day through the weapons they manufacturer and sell across the world. Worrying about their practices in commercial aviation travel compared to their business in destroying entire continents is like comparing a handgun to a nuclear weapon.
Manslaughter, not murder. They were deaths caused by greed and negligence but weren’t malicious
Quite malicious to withheld information to pilots. @@That_0ne_guy_FL
@@That_0ne_guy_FL Greed is malicious. Choosing money over safety knowing mutilation or death could result...?
@@SubconsciousChaosi assume malicious as in doing something with the intent of hurting another person
Boeing is so bad that a travel site has a feature that filters flights by plane model.
Which one lol im asking for me
@@thatbeaatcch9884It's Kayak
which company?
@@Jimmy_Biscuit1999 Kayak
@@A-Letter thank you!
I'm a manufacturing quality analyst, this whole situation is like our equivalent of watching Live Leak; it's horrifying but you can't look away, there's a lot of stuff to learn from it. Companies shouldn't need Quality departments, but they do because the Quality personnel are like the prophets that try to keep the production management in check. In this case the quality team lost, and their prophesies of what would happen if quality was ignored is becoming real. Planes falling apart in the air, and a nationwide scandal that could bury the entire company.
the company was not calibrated well enough between quality and profits
@@ayoCCya, the whole reason the Ethiopian and Lion Air crashes happened was bc boeing favored profit over quality & safety, they deliberately hid the mcas from the manuals for the plane so they wouldn’t have to pay for simulator training. its fucked up
At the end there you spelled ‘should’ wrong.
The scandal absolutely should bury Boeing. The company should not exist anymore.
Dude, his own SISTER not only said he wouldn’t be the kind of person to suddenly commit suicide, but also that he said HIMSELF that he wasn’t suicidal. How could I believe Boeing or the “””autopsy””” after that? Dude knew what he was up against and covered his bases, RIP king.
He was flat out warning people before it happened that if he turned up dead it wasnt suicide. Its so obvious someone had him killed that if nothing happens then we well and truly have no actual justice system in our society.
Flying is perfectly safe. You're statistically more likely to die blowing a whistle than flying in a jet after all.
And guess what else isn’t safe? Voting for Biden it is you 100% wouldn’t survive the planet after his presidency if trump wins however we all live
As long as it's not a Boeing jet, sure.
Agreed. It's really been issues mainly with the Max series aircraft. What a mess.
@paulfloyd951 Tis a sarcastic joke. Imagine its Boeings PR department saying it and you'll understand.
These sorts of statistics are always sort of dumb to me, because they seem to be weighed on sheer quantity.
I doubt anyone even sees this, but I’m an MBA and actually recently wrote an academic research analysis on the Boeing and McDonnell Douglas merger. While it’s commonly stated that Boeing was more an engineering company while McDonnell Douglas was a profit-driven company, it’s worth noting that McDonnell Douglas wasn’t profiting.
The reason they acquired Boeing with Boeing’s money (common joke) is that what they did have was extremely valuable- extensive access, both insider and without, to defense contracts that Boeing wanted. This has since driven Boeing’s business decisions for decades and has seen multiple high-level executives forced to step down due to using insider access to get military contracts they otherwise wouldn’t have had access to.
If you look at the company now, they’ve essentially abandoned focus on consumer aviation and are hyper focused on defense production.
Thank you for sharing. Have you published the paper somewhere I could find it.
That was what I was thinking, as it sounded unusual that they would somehow be high enough in the company to just infect it from the inside out, considering they obviously were not profiting enough to be able to pull a maneuver like that when merging.
Did you run into any rumors about them acquiring SAP's for back-engineering craft not of this world? 😅
Even executives were being sacrificed for the data? What chance do us common folk have then
omg, tim, shhhhhh, you gonna get added to a hit list. Also, 400k people in past 4 hours have seen this.
John Barnett: **dies the night before the finale court case against Boeing**
“Coincidence? I THINK NOT!”
imagine the footage leaks
*IT WAS ME , DIO*
I was actually supposed to be on that Ethiopian airlines flight that crashed in 2019. Absolutely crazy. I was booked for it a few weeks in advance and at the last minute I had to change my flight to a week later due to a delay in plans. When I heard of the crash I was horrified.
The MCAS system mistook takeoff angle as stalling and nose dived the plane right off the runway. Talking about pilots fighting the system, they didn’t even have a chance. They had no idea it was even there, then suddenly had their controls overridden during take off with no time to react.
That's absolutely terrifying, I'm glad to hear you dodged that death sentence. RIP to all the victims, they didn't die to an accident, they were basically murdered
Glad everything worked out , and your still here with us ❤️
Stop lying
mCRASH
holy SHIT thats actually horrifying, glad youre still here
Fear of flying is NOT irrational, and I say that as someone who loves to fly. We get into metal tubes and hurtle through the air at absurd speeds. I will never begrudge someone for being scared.
wait until people find out about the giant tin cans operated by the average idiot who can't police their impulse anger especially under pressure at high speeds (cars)
the people that aren’t scared at all are the teal idiots. Too stupid to be afraid
fr like you're telling me flying 10000 meters at insane 900 km/h is irrational fear? we're not even designed to be in that kind of altitude, let alone being in an absurd speed!
Nope but I will begrudge someone for constantly reading crap that gives them further reason to fear flying. I can't really feel like your fear is warranted if you are only going to look up the accidents or read articles compounding the reason for your fear.
@@dukeofdarlo5896 Boeing shill
Boeing’s active decision to focus on profit over safety reminds me of the Ford Pinto situation. (They had an internal memo essentially saying it was cheaper to let the people die than to fix the cars.)
Reminds me of a scene from Fight Club:
" - A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.
- Which car company do you work for?
- A major one."
This dialogue was based on IRL practices at GM and Ford.
The saddest part is nobody really had accountability for that, the same will happen here with Boeing. We are the country of fines and wrist slaps for such colossal failures, not actual justice.
No wonder Ford lost so many customers. Sounds like you have to make it so that they will have to pay more.
@@mycelia_ow
The fines should be far larger. In Boeing's case, there will be fewer sales. It will go bankrupt.
After tests done on the Pinto during the lawsuit it was established that it was NOT the most dangerous car on the road and that the actual death count was WAY lower than the death count that was predicted by Ford. The story goes much deeper than what most people hear.
i’ve always hated the “flying is safer than diving a car” thing because while you might survive a car crash you most certainly won’t survive an airplane crash. it’s the fact that one little thing goes wrong and you are all plummeting to your certain death for me
Legit man
omg I'm so glad someone agrees, i'm so tired of people telling me my fear of planes is "silly" and it's "so much safer then driving a car" I always thought i at least had a chance to survive and even had some control in the situation with a car crash whereas in a plane we all go down and only a couple people really have control. your placing your life in the hands of someone without knowing their intentions or knowing what could happen.I'd rather not.
honestly another thing. i know there are exceptions to this and it depends on the accident but for the most part in a car crash it's usually instantaneous, you dont really have time to sit and ponder that your life is in danger. whereas in a plane crash you're probably well aware for a good while that something is WRONG and you have zero control over any of it at all
@@Monochrome2004 THISTHISTHISTHIS OMG
@@lolzawowza4022 like if im gonna die i'd prefer it just be an instant thing where i only have a few seconds to process it as opposed to hypothetically spending hours on a doomed vessel (like, when they lose all control over hydraulics and basically just spend hours flying erratically until the plane runs out of fuel with zero control over the plane, which is my worst nightmare tbh) knowing that when it finally crashes i have an extremely low chance of surviving it
I worked at Boeing for 13 years and left a bit after Stoneciphers reign. As an engineer it always felt like the business people drove the company and technical direction.
Capitalism society. Business men only care about the profit, as much profit. Cutting down on what those uneducated business men think are not important costs : employees, materials. Capitalism makes people much more selfish…. As long as they themselves don’t die they are okay with it LOL
Fun fact: Philip Condit, the CEO of Boeing during the merger with McDonnell-Douglas, married his first cousin. 👍
@@williamyoung9401 THATS WILD
My grandad was a ball turret gunner on a Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress during ww2. He and his crew were shot down 6 times over the course of the war. They named their final plane The Phantom because of how many times they went down only to come back. He was very proud of the Boeing name. If he was alive today I think he’d be very ashamed of what the company has become.
If that’s true then that’s fucking badass.
Shot down 6 times and managing to make it back every time.
@@HaroldMarina2010Many of the Royal Airforce's Hurricanes were also famously resilient. Countless of them have been shred to pieces mid-air by gunfire, managed to land and make repairs, fly back to base, and be repaired to fly again. I'm fairly sure countless bomber-class high-altitude planes suffered similar fates :p
Your grandad was probably Zeb, or Kanan.
Your grandad is a fucking badass!
This story is as true as anything you can write in youtube comment section. So, today I saw aliens in my yard...
It’s crazy being in school studying aviation management while all this is happening because all my professors who have so many connections to the industry keep ripping on boeing as an example for this
That is interesting. I had a buddy that got a business degree in that 12 years ago. He is a flight planning manager for Westjet here in Canada. Being a supply chain/finance guy myself a lot of that stuff sounds interesting. I work in the energy industry on the power side.
i just dont get it boeing has a networth of over 100 BILLION they are literally too big to fail and yet the though to putting pennies to the side toward things like safety and training was too much for them.
@@kumaye9446too big to fail sounds like Roman talk
@@kumaye9446 it's what happens when you have greedy rats shareholders and CEOs prioritising money over lives. The CEO himself is an accountant so that explains A LOT.
They could just let engineers do their job and Boeing would still be a powerhouse but ironically in their quest to maximise profits it only brought down stocks.
The sad part is the CEO got his sweet million dollars pay and "step down" from Boeing and other companies would be quick to hire him like he didn't just destroyed a billionaire company.
So fcking stupid
@@kumaye9446human greed knows no bounds
I have family who works for Boeing. And while all this was happening, they were getting finned, they were doing cuts, layoffs, freezing bonuses for employees, freezing cost of living raises, but the CEO himself still got a multi million dollar Christmas bonus each year. LOL
Hi I just came across your channel a few days ago and as a 71 year old I immediately judged you on appearance and for this I apologise. You are a breath of fresh air and I love your quirky sense of humour. You've made this old lady laugh out loud quite a few times. Please keep entertaining us. Thank you
He’s a very cool guy, certainly has the most unique humour (mean this in a good way) I’ve ever heard too!
Thank you you are very kind and I sincerely appreciate it.
yeah, this channel is great
Charlie is a great man.
YESSS CHANNEL GRANDMA!
"When they drop the airmasks they also drop an Allen wrench." Comedy gold.
I worked at an aircraft maintenance company. Basically they received aircraft engines and APUs, took them apart, fixed whatever was wrong with them, and sent it back to the customer to be reinstalled. They took a lot of safety precautions. Most notably, during training they had a 30 min talk on FOD (foreign object and debris) and the steps to mitigate FOD from entering into aircraft parts. A lot of my coworkers there took it seriously too. One time I left a notebook and pen on one of the workbenches with the intention of coming back to it after I've done my task. When I came back to pick it up, a coworker yelled at me for being careless and leaving FOD on the shopfloor unsupervised. Most aircraft companies are very strict about this.
Boeing however doesn't care about this. I once heard a story of Boeing leaving an entire step ladder in their plane's fuselage and I think it made it past the quality inspection
thats not fod your clown.
The ladder story is true i think, i’ve seen some stories about that as well
scary asf
Flying is definitely scary knowing you are legit stuck up there and have no control lol
When one door closes, another door opens
-Boeing probably
😂
Jesus Christ
Lol
😂😂😂😂💯
The "I'm now the rip-off of Airbus" door
I remember a comedian saying once, "yeah, but it's safer to crash in a car than it is in a plane. That's the stat that matters " 😂
Yeah but its less safer travelling in a car then in a plane
@@titann3546I'd rather get out of a car wreck with a broken limb than crawl out of a plastic crash without both of my legs
@@titann3546I meant plane crash
@@titann3546 Unless it's Boeing, in which case you are probably going to crash. And probably going to die in said crash. And if you managed to survive, they'll find you, and they'll help you undo that mistake.
@@titann3546Will I be fucking eviscerated without possibility of any medical personnel making their way to me within 5 hours if I crash in a car?
How was he NOT in the witness protection program specifically designed to prevent this exact situation?!
MUNEY!!!
Witness protection program is designed to protect people from hardened criminals/organized crime, not white collar crime. Money talks.
Boeing makes aircrafts for the military so there was no effort from the government to protect him.
Because government doesnt want him to have anything more to say either.
They didn't think Boeing would be stupid enough to do it
I use to work at a major airport for years. One of my duties was pre aircraft inspection before the mechanic does the initial check prior to take off. A lot them are over worked and underpaid. I remember at least twice reporting cracks on an aircraft wing, to which I was told mark it. 10mins later here comes the duct-tape. First time I saw it happen I was shocked and even questioned the remedy. According to the answer I revived it's industry standard. Changed my view on flying.
“If it aint airbus, I ain’t about to bust”
-Wendigoon
lo that doesn't even make grammatical sense.
@@kalef1234 @PicklesOfTheRoundJar Stop duplicating your account to leave a nasty comment.
Ohhhh god 😫
@@suicune3776 bruh I meant that at kalef1234
Airbussin.
as a pilot I'm glad you're talking about this to a big audience, not a lot of people know much about the 737 max debacle, just to add the point about the aoa sensor, they also only had one sensor. in aviation redundancies save lives, they were also liable to get put out of the correct position by ground crews. the scary part is Boeing isn't the only big player in aviation that's this negligent.
I love that Charlie has a fan base that consists of people who are often involved in the trades/industries he touches on. I learn alot from you all!
My dad's a 777 captain. Pretty scary
Pilot’s account is called sugmanutz, truly inspirational.
9:00 That was the worst part about this: It cannot always be corrected by pilot action. The condition is called a 'Stab Runaway'. Once the horizontal stabilizer deflects past a critical angle, the force required to restore the stab-trim is beyond human. This is what happened in the case of the Ethiopian Airlines crash. The co-pilot realized it was an MCAS malfunction and tried to trim the stabilizer manually, but he just couldnt.
Yeah, they had 10 sec to figure out what's wrong while fighting with the aircraft with no centralized warning system. After 10 sec the forces would be too much even if you turned off the stab trim, it is unrecoverable at that point
How TF was no one held criminally accountable? Hundereds of people died because of someone's decisions.
"it wasn't a suicide he consented too." holy fuck that was savage
This was the highlight phrase of the video, what in the absolute fuck world are we living in?
Boeing absolutely murdered that guy. He even said he's not suicidal and if he winds up dead Boeing killed him.
But trump wouldn’t do that to anyone, would he? Biden certainly would however
@itz_me_beautiful_devil_21come on man, vote trump!
@@NigerianCrusaderthis is not the place to talk about your dumb politics
@@NigerianCrusader u think the president of the united states dictates this? u think think the president isnt corrupt? if u genuinely dont think worse things happen and are happening u are delusional. its not a secret that the CIA is shady and that the president is a figurehead.
@@NigerianCrusaderthat is a bot, mr. republican guy
scary fun fact, when the Mcas system was at its worst, pilots would need to have shut off the system within 10 seconds of the malfunction to be able to save the flight at all, it was recorded that there was a pilot able to shut it off but it was too late and the plane crashed anyway.
MCAS- May Crash Any Second! 😎
The Ethiopian flight pilots used the trim checklist. By the time it was complete they couldn't save themselves. They turned the MCAS back on : they hoped whatever fault caused would rectify itself, the equivalent of rebooting a computer to get round a frozen state.
(The Voice recorder revealed they turned the MCAS back on as the last chance. )
I’m also terrified of planes. The part that scares me the most, is the thought of being aware of what’s going on in the event of a catastrophe.
Its truly fed up how, OBVIOUS this is. The literal boogieman holding the bloody knife saying "no he did it."
And theres just... Nothing can be done. To big to fail.
Money is power. Those who have all the money have all the power.
Will this be the moment folks finally realize how unfair life is? Of course not, the just world continues to charge forth in all its fallaciousness
@@ExtraVictory to be fair, I think most people these days know how crappy and unfair our situation is (as a whole-ass species, more or less) it's just that us common folk don't have the power to change it and the people with power have a vested interest in keeping things the way they are...
@@darkpulsegirl2654 its true that people are more aware now but not aware enough. You don't need to be a 120 billion dollar megacorp to get away with murder. My parents could probably do so and they're just regular rich people (professional landlords)
Of course im not trying to be ungrateful or anything im grateful every day but from this vantage point it couldn't be more clear how immensely stacked the deck is
@@darkpulsegirl2654this exactly! Sure, people like us can’t stand that people are basically OPENLY assassinated and no one seems to care, but I’m a nobody with a wife and twins. NOBODY cares what I say.
Can we talk about how absolutely messed up it is that Boeing stock began recovering once the whistleblower died? Like, "whew, we can start buying again."
WHEEL IN THE SKY KEEPS ON TURNIN
Some pf it may be them buying their own stock. Disney does it.
stock market is the worst thing humanity ever invented
@@oldcowbb how?
@@Conker117educate yourself. The list of negative impacts and death toll would be too long for yt comment section
Crazy how they jumped to the conclusion that it was self inflicted right away.
@PringleAhhcringe
What do you want? A full investigation on how he died? It’s pretty easy to jump to suicide because of where he was shot.
@@spencerpearson6250 i like him, he's a funny bot, compared to the others.
@cube_2430 its a bot nonetheless
As opposed to what? A company going after some dude for stuff he said about them? He so obviously did it to himself. Now if you want to say that boeing caused him to do it to himself that’s another thing entirely
It’s so crazy that Boeing came to my school to talk to us abt how good it is and I was actually hooked into it and then I see this story the very next day
When were they at your school bro , recently ?
Join and fix it!
@@michaelpesa7104 yeah the news came out a day after they came in my school lmao
@@michaelpesa7104 yeah literally a day before the news came out
@@night_arhowtf thats Crazy man😮
24:34 you don't need to get rid of all whistleblowers to make them go away, you just need to make an example of one of them, this was totally done by Boeing, they must be dismantled.
I wonder if you will get the same results from making an example of corrupt politicians and c level executives.
This.
^
They'll never be dismantled, they're part of the Military Industrial Complex
@@psilobom It's just bailout simulator at this point...
i work at a company that contracts for Boeing in Washington, and almost nothing is getting done because of the FAA's investigation. Production at Boeing is almost at a complete stop, and most of the people I work with think Boeing killed the guy.
Boeing is likely locating your IP address. Take care
Now you’re on the list
@@gloworms touché
As a former Aerospace tech worker, I can tell you that General/Private aviation outside of commercial aircraft is regulated a lot more than the airlines. It's sad that these big companies are allowed to put a price on the lives of humans to appease shareholders. It's the American way. We are all in agreement that Barnett was silenced. The media blackout on the story is wild.
And no one will ever be held accountable since those rich in America are sadly immune to the law or have the law paid off.
They only care about their stock value.
There is a media blackout? The media is irrelevant so I didn't even notice. This is the real media to me lol
Probably because blackrock has shares in Boeing and a lotttt of the main stream media, that’s my guess as to why it hasn’t been covered a lot
@@deadbeef576 100%
I’m a computer engineering student at Wisconsin right now. Every engineer is required to take an engineering ethics class as part of a graduation requirement. That class has an entire unit focused on how the Boeing merger destroyed Boeing and why they’re falling apart. It is mostly because of military contracted deadlines. Demanding things be done in a fraction of the time they need. This video covers it fairly well. It’s very interesting and sad stuff.
Friendly reminder Thomas Pynchon once worked for Boeing's technical division in the early 1960's and has almost never been photographed or seen in public since he quit. He once went so far as to jump out of a bathroom window when journalists arrived at his location in Mexico after his first novel, V., was published and then rode a bus almost 1000km into the mountains just to avoid being photographed.
His novels contain some scathing indictments of the military industrial complex - he knows what he's up against.
Could you explain why he was trying to avoid being photographed? I don't get it
@CL-fg5ne changing his appearance and going into hiding, having proof of what he looks like and his changes and tracking him puts him in danger
@@CL-fg5ne maybe not having his current looks known and therefore more easily targeted with non-consentual suicide
@@CL-fg5nehe didn’t want to be tracked and murdered for speaking out
I’ve met the guy who blew the whistle on big tobacco several times. My guy had to literally run from hitmen and be put into witness protection with his entire family, while staying 100% silent, hiding the documents even from authorities while the FBI built their case and got the lost solid foundation for the trial thst they could, he had to be the very last piece to the case and in the meantime he literally had people that he had to physically run from. This man was a researcher for big tobacco who was one on a team of two or three people who discovered that nicotine is deadly, the tobacco execs told him to keep that quiet after they made him invent nicotine free cigarettes and found out they weren’t addictive.
This man probably did not kill himself.
The FBI tried to help him? I like that
@@Kain1805 rare FBI W lol
Jeffrey Weigand. That’s the whistleblower’s name for big tobacco
The Boeing Mafia is terrifying
Yep! If you talk you get wacked!
You and me both Charlie. People tend to misconstrue that my fear of flying means I've never flown; the reality being I used to fly to NYC every summer to see family, I have done the 9 hour flight to Ireland to see my homeland and family, but flying just scares the shit out of me. My argument to anyone about it being safer than driving is " if my engine cuts out in my car, I don't plummet 30,000 feet". Now with all this going on, and me having to look at flights in order to see my sister...let's just say this has not eased my fears
Reasons why my dad left Boeing during the developing process of 787 Dreamliner in late 2000 for better opportunities. As he said to me, years of restless nights as a safety engineer fighting management for their choices following the saying "More for Less" and to do whats right.
@itz_me_beautiful_devil_21 Not a single person cares.
I fear flying almost as much as I fear plane falling on my house.
So a ton?
It's not irrational to be terrified of being trapped in a tube at death height
hope you take 200 flights every year.
Flying is really safe especially compared to cars but it’s a real slap to the face with all these companies cheapie out on safety protocols and the same time charging the highest prices for tickets they ever have and overselling tickets on purpose leaving people stranded like that one Asian doctor that got beat up by security etc 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻
@PringleAhhbot
I recently got furloughed from a job that had me flying every other week, kinda glad on the timing to be honest.
WHATEVER PUNK
these bots are getting out of hand
@itz_me_beautiful_devil_21 lmao, only 3 kids? that's pretty weak for a girl, try to be stronger than 6 kids, better yet, try to be stronger than 3 men-
@itz_me_beautiful_devil_21most people are stronger than 3 kids you dingus
You probably have a near 100% chance of flying in one of those shit tubes, how do you feel?
I work at Boeing Portland. Over 16 years now. The funny thing is, it's been drilled into my head since day one that quality is of top importance. There has been multiple times where we have shut down production due to a quality issue that we found. That said, my location is union. So we have very little fear of repercussions for bringing up quality issues. Can't speak for other sites. That said, the "suicide" is definitely suspicious.
There’s no way he was not assassinated. They elected to kill him in the truck so they could be certain it was him and did not alert hotel staff. He was on his way to the deposition where they knew he would be. They likely had multiple people at multiple hotels on a lookout for him. It likely came from the CEO or on behalf of the CEO and why he was forced to resign by the board after the board forced him to stop work and took over..
Mr. Barnett was depressed and he did indicate he was suicidal
@@j2simpsohe said he wasn’t suicidal the day before he died
@@glowormshe could of said tho so when he did it made it seem like a murder. Clearly its sketch and that plus the gvn still being in his hand plus court the next day all makes mvrder much more likely I just thought I'd point out that it's kind of dumb to completely rule out svicide or act like him saying that the day before is some smoking gun like if I hated someone badly enough and didn't think I'd be able to get them arrested without being k1lled I'd commit svuicide like that and make it seem like a murder. Personally I think it's more than likely a mvrder I just don't think him saying what he said is definitive proof
@@Jarl3169 he left a note though. If he wanted people to think he was murdered he wouldn’t have left a note.
He told his mother he was planning to drive home but the Boeing lawyers insisted he stay just one more day.
All of his belongings were neatly folded and packed ready to leave when his body was found.
Sorting belongings is very common for people do to before they take their own lives.
@Haarschmuckfachgeschafttadpole yeah it was a tragic suicide, complete suicide because he hilled himself and there was no wrongdoing by any airplane company protecting their bottomline no just suicide
@@Haarschmuckfachgeschafttadpole ok Boeing bot
@@nukewurld yes, I completely missed any sarcasm - please point it out to me
@@nukewurldhe’s not being sarcastic, look at his other comments
Boeing: we have your address
Moist: I'm Floridian
He’d give them an in person demonstration of the difference between clips and mags
How about he turns it around?
Boeing: We have your address
Moist: So do I
You couldn't pay enough me to ride in a boeing after this.
Yeah I’d rather swim to where I want to vacation at.
"If you ain't guilty, then why you runnin'?"
ong
Because you’re chasing me
They dont kill you for speaking about them, they kill you if you mess with their money.
Airbus sitting back enjoying the firestorm boeings in
airbus: upward trending chart emoji
This override control system is like something out of a horror movie 😂
Final Destination comes to mind!
“Sir one of our planes went down and everyone miraculously survived!”
Boeing: 👁 👄 👁
Hey, I have personal experience here
We don't use dawn dish soap as a lubricant, we use it to check for leaks. In fact we don't use just dawn for leaks, it is primarily a water solution with a little bit of dish soap inside it to make the bubbles easier to identify for technicians.
I'd be severely alarmed if I found pure dish soap as a lubricant for the doors on our aircrafts especially considering usually these parts not only come with their own lubricants, but also have listed lubricants and several backup suitable supplements that can fill the role, as well as there is an entire section of maintenance that exist to only lubricate things on the aircraft that needs lubricated.
So whoever installed that door intentionally wrongfully did it, and it had probably been installed for less than 6 months or a year
Suuuure mr paid by boeing
Can confirm this is all true. My grandfather worked for Boeing and many other aerospace companies. He always uses dawn and water to check for leaks. Old habits die hard.
We use similar checks in the electrical world, its cheap, readily available, and most of all it works
Yep. In the Airforce I was in fuel systems, we used a soap solution when troubleshooting for leaks in fuel tanks or cells.
Okay Mr paid off by boeing
I never thought there could be so much lore for an airplane company
Defense contractor. That is like 80% of their revenue. If you only think of airplanes when you hear Boeing, you aren't paying attention
@@pepeepupoo it’s a joke
@@Garysnailmanhow th e fuck is that a joke
I'm taking a hot dumpleslaps
*Pop*
Forever slept.
The design flaw of the Boeing 737 was actually an essential part of a first yr Engineering course we had to take so it's kinda interesting hearing the same details lol.
Not only did pilots not know how to override MCAS, _they did not know it existed at all in the first place._
I was recently employed by Boeing as a contractor to investigate the pressure dome issue, which is the wall located at the rear of the aircraft. I collaborated with engineers and QA during this project. Working for Boeing was quite chaotic as there was a lack of clear direction right from the beginning. Despite the challenges, we were compensated well to assist in resolving this issue and other recurring problems that were causing delays in aircraft deliveries. Having previously worked in the Air Force, transitioning to the commercial side of Boeing made me realize that they may not adhere strictly to established guidelines. It was disappointing to see that even their employees did not always follow technical instructions. I raised my concerns with management, only to be told that this was the standard practice.
This reminds me a lot of ocean gate where they built the submersible because it was supposed to be an impenetrable submarine that can lead passengers to the wreckage of the titanic, only for the submersible to implode itself from the pressure inside the ocean after submersing in the water, killing all 5 rich men including the CEO, These corporations deserves to receive lawsuits.
my uncle is a pilot, he used to fly commercial but his company was grounded for nearly 2 years because of an accident involving a plane with poor maintenance. the suits in charge only care about making as much profit as possible, safety and quality be damned
It's quite important you keep talking about this at given opportunities. Though, sadly I think we all know nobody is truly going to get caught for this.
The documentary film when we're all old dying men will be damn interesting to watch with a beer though.
It's scary how big companies can easily silence whistleblowers .
This wasn't silencing at all. If their plan was to shut the dude up, it failed miserably as even more people are talking about it now after finding out about the whistleblower's death.
Streisand Effect right out the ass.
You think that's scary? Wait until you hear about the government.
@@whatthebeepvideos it's not exactly a competion on who can be the worst lol
I paid extra to make sure I’m on an Airbus, not a Boeing. Justice for Barnett.
For me, the craziest part of all this is that Boeing didn't tell a SINGLE pilot about the MCAS system. Like imagine buying a Toyota Prius and vigorously reading the instruction manual, and not being told in there that the car has a "steering correction" system that can override what you're doing and steer the car for you without your consent. Good god.
I actually work at a company that makes the frames for boeing planes and it would actually be impossible to follow all the quality checks and also hit our required numbers every day, which if we don't hit our numbers, we get written up.
This right here, profits over quality affecting everything right down to the assembly lines.
That is the scam they play, to get you to do things the unsafe way while obscuring liability.
Well, don't come forward if you value your life. Or if you're bold, contact the ffa
Imagine if Boeing accidentally put out their statement before John was found
Anyone else see the new merch Boeing dropped; “I just survived a Boeing flight!”