INTEL FIGHTS BACK! Arrow Lake Benchmarks & Full Specs LEAK

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  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024

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  • @RedGamingTech
    @RedGamingTech  Месяц назад +3

    We were asked to remove a leak by a company who contacted us, and out of respect we've followed their request.

    • @AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE
      @AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE Месяц назад +1

      Sorry, I had to take a leak too... 15 pints of beer on a Sunday will do that to you!

    • @AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE
      @AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE Месяц назад

      I'm looking forward to Arrow Lake... the latency should be very low with no Hyper-Threading... the last PC I built was for my younger brother with an 12600K but I'm still running X58 and X99 systems myself haha... it'll be nice to run something faster for my music production and Photoshop workloads.

  • @Kapono5150
    @Kapono5150 Месяц назад +150

    Imagine recommending Intel in 2024

    • @hlbjk
      @hlbjk Месяц назад

      Ladies and gentleman......I am a retard in a girly vest who can't keep my hand still.

    • @444haluk
      @444haluk Месяц назад +14

      Intel still excels at scientific computing on consumer desktop chips.

    • @Stardomplay
      @Stardomplay Месяц назад +11

      Better than AMD

    • @12700kk
      @12700kk Месяц назад +1

      @@enilenis xeon🤮

    • @EuroPC4711
      @EuroPC4711 Месяц назад +2

      @@444halukmaybe. It what about their 14xxx Desaster ?

  • @jipillow1
    @jipillow1 Месяц назад +77

    Great, but will it kill itself?

    • @Shirosak1
      @Shirosak1 Месяц назад +4

      You mean, can it run a crysis?

    • @Serandi1987
      @Serandi1987 Месяц назад +1

      Will I get 60 FPS in Tekken 8??😂

    • @swagyolo8602
      @swagyolo8602 Месяц назад +2

      @@enilenis I know you hate intel but why make things up?

    • @MaxwellHay
      @MaxwellHay Месяц назад +3

      It’s crazy to see how many intel bots in the comments section. Never seen such thing in others’ videos.

    • @proxis9980
      @proxis9980 Месяц назад

      @@enilenis peopel if you ahve no clue just stfu......your amd stock bettign trolls are not welcome here.....

  • @EmperorOfMan
    @EmperorOfMan Месяц назад +53

    Auto-meltdown mode lets you know when you need an upgrade. Intel is back baby!

    • @lesserlogic9977
      @lesserlogic9977 Месяц назад +5

      110C here we come!

    • @proxis9980
      @proxis9980 Месяц назад

      auto meldown mode by 3(and a half) MB producers :D with the specs by intel the MB limits the voltage so the cpu can never pull the voltage that is damaging....probably also the reason why intel never noticed the problem befor....

    • @yadayada4559
      @yadayada4559 Месяц назад

      @@proxis9980 it's much deeper than that. The performance and efficient cores connected using the same rails, and those rails were susceptible to damage when the voltage is set to higher than what Intel outlined. And that's one of the reasons why the damage is permanent to the affected 13th and 14th generation cpus.

    • @proxis9980
      @proxis9980 Месяц назад

      @@yadayada4559 how is that"much " deeper?....the quint essence stays EXACTLY the same.....cpu requests to much voltage which it would never get with not insane MB settings...and that not all cpus have it in fact problable less than we even think (remeber the 4090 melted connectors or the 3090tis dieng on the amazon game in the end it was like what globaly 5000cards ? but the youtuber spend 2months complaning ?) ....same shit probably......ive yet to see somebody beeing able to systematicly reproduce the problem....

    • @yadayada4559
      @yadayada4559 Месяц назад

      @@proxis9980 It's the bus between the performance and the efficient cores within the chiplet.

  • @ErdMen1337
    @ErdMen1337 Месяц назад +42

    Imagine in 2026 has that cpu the same issue what the 13 and 14 gen has

    • @Dazzxp
      @Dazzxp Месяц назад

      @@enilenis I suspect that's why clock speeds are more conservative too.

    • @elrondes1
      @elrondes1 Месяц назад

      @@enilenis Intel is not dead, they're too important to US chip manufacturing, US government won't let them fail. If Boeing can kill hundreds of people with faulty planes and still survive, Intel can too.

    • @W_ean
      @W_ean Месяц назад

      @@enilenis Laptop chips are unaffected my man, i5 13420h happy noises ^^

  • @mrcnorth7149
    @mrcnorth7149 Месяц назад +35

    Intel needs to handle the 13th/14th gen issues and take care of all customers before myself or anyone I know would even think about their new line of cpu's

    • @preludelinux
      @preludelinux Месяц назад

      Why would anyone trust Intel at this point they really still have not dealt with current issues 13/14 gen there going to continue dragging there feet how many people will end up with broken systems because of this.

    • @Lue1337
      @Lue1337 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@loomawoeToo much confidence bruh, chill.

    • @thom1218
      @thom1218 Месяц назад +5

      @@loomawoe WILL NOT be carried over.🤣🤣🤣

    • @aqualung2000
      @aqualung2000 Месяц назад

      @@loomawoe Since Intel has yet to come clean on the problems with their chips (and seem to be actively trying to hide them) I have zero trust in them anymore.

    • @kaneandy1836
      @kaneandy1836 Месяц назад +3

      @@loomawoe At least, intel will lose a large amount of consumers who bought 13th/14th CPU.Even Arrow Lake have better performance than AM5,I wont buy it.

  • @gamebenchmarks9715
    @gamebenchmarks9715 Месяц назад +8

    Here is what I feel more than anything about new Intel chip: Did they actually solve ring bus voltage issue, or did Raptor Lake issues migrate to Arrow Lake. Inheriting the issues of Raptor Lake.
    I am telling you this as 12 year owner of Intel CPUs only.
    12 years before that on AMD
    I also speak as a person who is sitting on the 2nd 13900k after RMA.
    As much as these benchmarks are cool, I want to understand if they can confidently call their new chip "stable" and "issue free"
    It's way more important to me now, rather than if they can beat Ryzen 9950X, because I know they can...but what about the quality and consistency?

    • @louisfriend9323
      @louisfriend9323 Месяц назад

      The fast Intel ringbus and 6 GHz boosting, to feed the superior IMC, simply come with a price: faster core degradation. AMD has this too, but with safer boosting voltages.

  • @mandasantoso
    @mandasantoso Месяц назад +22

    Nah, after their 13th and 14th gen, I think the prudent ones will wait and see.

    • @michaelmcconnell7302
      @michaelmcconnell7302 Месяц назад +1

      Wait and see for sure. My 13700k hasn't had any stability issues yet but I remain enthusiastic about intels road roadmap to the Jim Keller vision

    • @Serandi1987
      @Serandi1987 Месяц назад +1

      Now they should refund all the defected 13th & 14th CPU's or give the new Arrow Lake CPU counterpart of the defected previous gen!

    • @justmatt2655
      @justmatt2655 Месяц назад

      ​@@michaelmcconnell7302yes because it's only the i9 chips that are affected which barely any general consumers have so idk why so many people are crying about it tbh

    • @nipa5961
      @nipa5961 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@Serandi1987 Would be good and the right thing to do but I don't see Intel shipping millions of CPUs, new boards and memory.
      I fear they will just continue to ignore it and brush it under the carpet.

    • @Tugela60
      @Tugela60 Месяц назад

      My 14th gen has no issues.

  • @benjaminlynch9958
    @benjaminlynch9958 Месяц назад +24

    Those benchmarks are not good for Intel. 3/6 benchmarks showed equal or lower absolute performance. For a new architecture on a new process node, this seems like a disaster. Normally in such situations, there’s a clear performance improvement across the board.

    • @megakedar
      @megakedar Месяц назад

      Intel is headed for a bulldozer era. The problem for calling for "competition" at this point is that Intel still has a dominant market position and can afford to be knocked down a few pegs, so that they will learn to stop being the Boeing of the semiconductor industry. There has to punishment for cockups or lessons will never be learned.

    • @iequalsnoob
      @iequalsnoob Месяц назад +4

      they will match or beat the 9k AMD lineup so i dont know what kind of smoke you are trying to blow up peoples arses fan boy.

    • @Lue1337
      @Lue1337 Месяц назад +6

      Agreed, everyone was expecting more and If thats the real deal then It will get smoker in gaming compared to the 9000X3D Chips.

    • @justmatt2655
      @justmatt2655 Месяц назад +11

      ​@@iequalsnoobi mean he's right lol you're sounding like more of a fanboy tbh

    • @nipa5961
      @nipa5961 Месяц назад +6

      Yes, looks like Intel is just delivering more waste of sand.

  • @marcelcoetzee7152
    @marcelcoetzee7152 Месяц назад +21

    This is bad but not for an obvious reason. 14900ks have pretty extreme reliability problems and you are telling me that they want to put 20% higher clocks on it, that is madness. If the ring bus is melting as is then this might drop reliability even further. Now this could all have been fixed in design but Intel hasn't clarified the issue so it is still up in the air so it looks like a big win for AMD to me.

    • @jayvee8502
      @jayvee8502 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@loomawoeIt is not manufacturing node that is the problem. It is the ring bus design limitations.

    • @ShaneMcGrath.
      @ShaneMcGrath. Месяц назад

      @@loomawoe Copy and paste, Sound like a bot!

    • @lorsch.
      @lorsch. Месяц назад +2

      Did you not watch the video? "It looks like there will be a regression in clock speeds, about -300MHz"

  • @Caveman787
    @Caveman787 Месяц назад +13

    Same performance or 20% on Multi Core....That's not really great looking to me.
    And If I had read that correctly still 250 watts.
    Zen 5 looking good in comparison to me.
    Just wish they could do better on their GPU side.

    • @oogwaythesussyturtle
      @oogwaythesussyturtle Месяц назад +3

      zen 5 is miles ahead of 15th gen. this is probably as good as it gets for the 285k as it's a qualifying sample. the performance uplift is very mediocre. i mean the single threaded performance is basically the same. r9 9950x matches the multi core performance of 285k running at just 160 watts compared to 250 watts on the i9. and the single thread performance is significantly ahead of the i9 as well.

    • @iequalsnoob
      @iequalsnoob Месяц назад +1

      lol arrow lake will meet or beat the performance of the 9k amd lineup. fanboy much?

    • @nipa5961
      @nipa5961 Месяц назад +4

      All leaked benchmarks are very underwhelming. I hoped for Intel finally getting competitive again. But in reality they fall behind more and more.

    • @maxwellsmart3156
      @maxwellsmart3156 Месяц назад +2

      @@iequalsnoob Says this unironically.

    • @laszlozsurka8991
      @laszlozsurka8991 Месяц назад

      @@iequalsnoob Ironic you saying "fanboy much" when all of your comments are shilling for Intel. hypocrite much?

  • @weirdodude1173
    @weirdodude1173 Месяц назад +3

    Ryzen 9000X3D's in September would be nice. Intel being competitive is definitely a great thing. Thumbs up!

  • @10236548898856225633
    @10236548898856225633 Месяц назад +2

    If Intel does not make good with the 13th and 14th gen chips ..I will never buy intel ever again.

  • @rangersmith4652
    @rangersmith4652 Месяц назад +2

    The smart money is on skipping this generation to see if Intel will properly make it right for Raptor Lake buyers AND not repeat the debacle.

  • @MaxwellHay
    @MaxwellHay Месяц назад +7

    I’ll let someone else be the lab mice for me😂

    • @Tugela60
      @Tugela60 Месяц назад +1

      Why are you buying AMD then? We already know they have an issue they won't tell us about.

    • @MaxwellHay
      @MaxwellHay Месяц назад +3

      @@Tugela60 I’m sure everyone has issues but nothing comparable to the intel 13/14th gen disaster. And look at the way intel handles it. You expect me to still trust them?

    • @mehck-gk9yn
      @mehck-gk9yn Месяц назад +2

      @@MaxwellHay That's a literal Intel bot lol ignore it

    • @swagyolo8602
      @swagyolo8602 Месяц назад

      @@MaxwellHay If you're so confident about all these issues, why aren't any of y'all suing Intel? I'd love to see how that plays out.

    • @MaxwellHay
      @MaxwellHay Месяц назад

      @@swagyolo8602 I will join a class action lawsuit for sure

  • @Z_Pavel
    @Z_Pavel Месяц назад +6

    Intel CPU is consumable now like a cartridge.

    • @nipa5961
      @nipa5961 Месяц назад +2

      Like printer ink.
      3-9 months life cycle depending on how much you use your PC.

  • @photonboy999
    @photonboy999 Месяц назад +3

    *Arrow Lake's Multi-thread problem...*
    The people that tend to care more about multi-threading processing power ALSO tend to be people who do more research. And/or people who need these platforms for work. Thus RELIABILITY will be a huge factor in their decision and these people are likely going to know about the Intel failures. Intel needs to earn back trust and they certainly aren't going about it the right way currently. They are STILL selling CPU's that will start DEGRADING the second you start using them as the BIOS patch needed won't be ready for likely a few months (and even then many people won't even know to update their BIOS/UEFI). I'm sure they'll get the micro-code sorted for new CPU's that are being made but they haven't pulled their current store inventory yet AFAIK. That's not good.

  • @johndoh5182
    @johndoh5182 Месяц назад +2

    The Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 based on Zen 5 is pretty awesome considering how low power it is. It beats out anything on the market now so Arrow Lake will NEED to be better, and also not melt.
    Without knowing Intel desktop configs for their CPUs, If Intel goes SMT-1 then for the processors where AMD has higher thread counts I'd say AMD has the advantage because looking at what they did with the laptop part mentioned above I have to think Zen 5 desktop is a pretty big boost for multithreaded scores, but it's going to depend on what they can pull off with their infinity fabric.

  • @Mtylgd
    @Mtylgd Месяц назад +10

    I’m guessing the chances that 15th gen have the same issues as 13th and 14th gen are very high.

    • @roanbrand7358
      @roanbrand7358 Месяц назад

      Sure, but at least they will test for it now and work around it in software. They have to, even if it means dropping 500mhz

    • @failingup4907
      @failingup4907 Месяц назад

      I disagree.. I'm sure they knew about the problem and fixed it.

    • @Mtylgd
      @Mtylgd Месяц назад

      The problem is the fix is probably either slowing the chip down or delaying it a year. Best bet is to buy an old chip or AMD.

    • @jarnovilen5259
      @jarnovilen5259 22 дня назад

      Guessing is as good as nothing. Did you also guess that Zen 5 CPU's will explode destroying the motherboard?

    • @jarnovilen5259
      @jarnovilen5259 22 дня назад

      @@Mtylgd Like an exploding Ryzen 3D?

  • @jasonvors1922
    @jasonvors1922 Месяц назад +2

    I still would rather see, Amd or Intel innovating on the desktop front and offering chips that use 60watts or less with huge gains due to new cache systems in place instead of cranking up clock speeds and making our power bills climb up a wall.

  • @starlightHT
    @starlightHT Месяц назад +2

    All I ask is that Intel and AMD give us headaches because their products are GOOD and we don't know what to choose.

  • @photonboy999
    @photonboy999 Месяц назад +15

    *Building a COMPUTER in 2024 has gotten easier...*
    "Hey tech expert, I've been told to decide on the CPU first. Which one do you recommend?"
    *Tech expert*
    "What's your budget? Then we can decide which AMD CPU makes sense. Why not Intel? Well, they have to earn back people's trust and that needs a generation or two..."

    • @AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE
      @AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE Месяц назад

      Don't be a sucker for internet drama.... I've got Intel systems still running rock solid after 10 and 7 years (X58 and X99 platforms).

    • @AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE
      @AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE Месяц назад

      Overclocked to the gills too.... I've had motherboards fail before the CPUs have.

  • @abavariannormiepleb9470
    @abavariannormiepleb9470 Месяц назад +5

    My trust issues need a generation or two to heal.

    • @jarnovilen5259
      @jarnovilen5259 22 дня назад

      Same with exploding AMD CPU's?

    • @abavariannormiepleb9470
      @abavariannormiepleb9470 21 день назад

      Last year’s exploding AMD CPUs weren’t as bad as the 13th-/14th-gen Intel CPUs degrading. Why?
      - The catastrophic failure of AMD CPUs was due to motherboard manufacturers (ASUS was the worst one) applying increased voltage to the CPUs’ SoC to force higher stable memory frequencies. AMD is partially at fault here for not prohibiting motherboard manufacturers from doing that.
      - Intel’s fault lies within faulty manufacturing (for a smaller badge of CPUs) as well as Intel microcode demanding too high voltages from the motherboard power stages. That’s why Intel had to release new microcode versions (0x129 and newer) to change this voltage table. Is that really the end of it? We don’t know, yet.
      Intel’s behaving worse than AMD since AMD from the beginning said they’ll RMA any defective CPU whereas Intel has been trying to get out of as much responsibility as they (pseudo-) legally can. Every higher-end 13th- and 14th-gen Intel CPU that ran a while with older microcode is potentially damaged now and may be failing in the not too distant future. The used market for these parts will be a dumpster fire to watch the next years.

    • @jarnovilen5259
      @jarnovilen5259 21 день назад

      @@abavariannormiepleb9470 BS. Intel has expanded the warranty to 5 years (by the way, did AMD expand the warranty because of the issue? NO. And there may be degraded AMD 3D CPU's in users' computers because of this case). Intel replaces all defective CPU's. These are almost exactly same type of cases but of course there are nuances. And by the way, a very considerable factor in the Intel case was ALSO the MB manufacturers default OC and power limits. So almost exactly the same reasons.

  • @paulkendall6069
    @paulkendall6069 Месяц назад +3

    Intel need to sort out i9 13900& i914900 before they think about 15gen arrow lake. Will Arrow lake last 6mnths -2yrs stable then fall of a cliff or will they last for as long as you need them. Also how much power are Intel pumping through them to keep up with AMD.

  • @maxwellsmart3156
    @maxwellsmart3156 Месяц назад +1

    Unfortunately AL still needs much more power to match Ryzen 9K in MT. Can AL do AVX512?

  • @mraltoid19
    @mraltoid19 Месяц назад +2

    Old E-Cores were basically Haswell-Class right? So the new ones are Skylake-Class performance?

    • @SweatyFeetGirl
      @SweatyFeetGirl Месяц назад

      depends on the workload. sometimes they choke a lot and are much slower than haswell.

    • @Magnus_Loov
      @Magnus_Loov Месяц назад +2

      Old E-Cores were actually like Skylake. i5 skylake cores since they had no hyperthreading.
      Now it's more like somwhere between an 11th gen core and 12 gen P-core.
      The rise in performance i huge for the new e-cores. They get you 20% more performance despite hyperthreading not being there anymore for the P-cores, so the performance uplift for the e-cores are much greater than 20%

    • @iceboy1170
      @iceboy1170 Месяц назад +1

      Intel claims the new one has Raptor Cove IPC.

  • @j340_official
    @j340_official Месяц назад +1

    Intel needs Arrow Lake to be a home run.... Raptor Lake may well turn out to be Lawsuit Lake.... my 13900k is apparently fine ever since I put it in the motherboard but too many people have been reporting issues.

    • @nipa5961
      @nipa5961 Месяц назад

      Problem is that you can't be sure. It could start to fail in a month or in a year just after your warranty expired.

    • @j340_official
      @j340_official Месяц назад

      that’s fair. Very fair.

  • @0perativeX
    @0perativeX Месяц назад

    It'll be interesting to see how the lack of hyperthreading will affect gaming performance with Arrow Lake-S

  • @4ujase
    @4ujase Месяц назад +1

    Will it have the same ring bus high voltage deterioration as Intel's previous generation? E cores sharing the same lane as P Cores and causing it to overheat.

  • @Ignisan_66
    @Ignisan_66 Месяц назад +7

    Im forever done with Intel. When my 13th gen i5 dies in the coming years, im going full AMD.

    • @iequalsnoob
      @iequalsnoob Месяц назад +1

      good bye boris hahaha

    • @Ignisan_66
      @Ignisan_66 Месяц назад +3

      @@iequalsnoob what?

    • @nipa5961
      @nipa5961 Месяц назад +5

      @@Ignisan_66 He is an Intel troll.

    • @iceboy1170
      @iceboy1170 Месяц назад +2

      Enjoy AMDip

  • @Wahinies
    @Wahinies Месяц назад +2

    New feature: automatically downclocks as it degrades over time

  • @cemsengul16
    @cemsengul16 Месяц назад +1

    Who gives a shit when they haven't recalled their 13th and 14th gen i9?

  • @laszlozsurka8991
    @laszlozsurka8991 Месяц назад +1

    4:58 Ooooff Those bench results looks very bad. Literally 1% improvement in GeekBench SC performance. AMD is looking better for gamers. Also VideoCardz shows an average of 4% uplift over the 14900K in various benchmarks.
    The lack of hyper threading will bite back Intel in the bum.

  • @coment80
    @coment80 Месяц назад +4

    NEVER again after 13/14gen fiasco. If Intlel thinks that it will be sitting quiet and everything just pass, they are SO WRONG!

    • @jarnovilen5259
      @jarnovilen5259 22 дня назад

      NEVER again with exploding Ryzens also?

  • @biomagic8959
    @biomagic8959 Месяц назад +3

    basically single digit IPC uplift. very underwhelming

    • @jittertn
      @jittertn Месяц назад

      that will be rolled back after a few months by a security mitigation or a microcode update..

  • @evers6214
    @evers6214 Месяц назад +1

    I don’t understand why they don’t make one or more designs with just 8 massive cores. Amd or intel have shown they have extra power and transistors budget so why not? Can still make other high core parts for production work but give us the choice

    • @jayvee8502
      @jayvee8502 Месяц назад +1

      AMD actually are limited to 8 performance cores per chiplet.

    • @Lue1337
      @Lue1337 Месяц назад

      ​@@jayvee8502So what? If you can stack there is no issue at all. The problem that no one wants those E cores on the Intel side.

    • @iceboy1170
      @iceboy1170 Месяц назад

      Infinity fabric is needed to "stack" it, which made IMC off ring even for single CCX variant, which made gaming performance awful (aka AMDip).

  • @Ray88G
    @Ray88G Месяц назад +1

    Would like to see single core scores and not the multi core

  • @techluvin7691
    @techluvin7691 Месяц назад +4

    Not sure it matters what Intel does. The have lost the public’s confidence and especially RUclips Tech Channels.

  • @cjgparas3
    @cjgparas3 Месяц назад +1

    Like a plague. Intel processor should be avoided until they recall all affected 13th and 14th gen cpu. 100% eventual failure rate. How can you be ok with that.

  • @lairbox
    @lairbox Месяц назад

    If these projections will turn right it will be a bloodbath for AMD and this generation.
    Hope that Intel will recover from the previous gens scandal.

  • @zarko_mkd1780
    @zarko_mkd1780 Месяц назад +1

    WE WANT EFFICENCY + PERFORMANCE !!!🤣

  • @WayStedYou
    @WayStedYou Месяц назад

    Paul doing his Huge Jacked Man cosplay for Deadpool and Wolverine.

  • @JonoFunk
    @JonoFunk Месяц назад

    Take a shot every time you hear the word INTERESTING, guarantee you'll be sloshed with every RGT video 🤣

  • @K3vyB
    @K3vyB Месяц назад +4

    Nah mango, it's time for intel to take the backseat for a decade or two.

  • @Felix00007
    @Felix00007 Месяц назад +2

    I have i7 7700 and I am going to upgrade to 9900x

    • @Tugela60
      @Tugela60 Месяц назад

      The chips they had to pull due to "issues"?

  • @Bcsknees
    @Bcsknees Месяц назад +3

    runs great for a few months then takes a dump. F intel
    I need my system to last a few years or more!

  • @davidgreen6490
    @davidgreen6490 Месяц назад +1

    Yeah but do they work?

  • @nipa5961
    @nipa5961 Месяц назад +3

    Let's hope these benchmarks aren't correct. If true Arrow Lake is just another dud.

    • @iequalsnoob
      @iequalsnoob Месяц назад

      so by your remark that means that the 9k amd lineup is a dud.

    • @nipa5961
      @nipa5961 Месяц назад

      @@iequalsnoob You still can't read. Sad.

    • @quademasters249
      @quademasters249 Месяц назад

      @@iequalsnoob Considering they all need to be recalled, I'd say yes they're a failure.

    • @nipa5961
      @nipa5961 Месяц назад

      Seems like ARL won't even catch up to Zen 4. Well, not even if ARL won't fail also after just a few months.
      AMD won't have any competition for years, again. Too bad.

  • @chik0240
    @chik0240 Месяц назад +1

    first, they have to not burn itself and not admitting in it's product life for the issues

  • @Dazzxp
    @Dazzxp Месяц назад

    Dual channel memory won't do anything for single core scores as the memory is more than enough to feed it, once you add more cores then it matters.

  • @asmongoldsmouth9839
    @asmongoldsmouth9839 Месяц назад +2

    *They found one of the biggest culprits of the degeneration of Intel processors to be the E-cores. Because they kept adding more and more E-cores and upping the power requirement, it eventually caused severe issues in the architecture integrity.*
    *Now they got rid of hyperthreading and use the E-cores to replace the hyperthreading. What do you think is gonna happen? Voltage issues again. I told everyone the big little processor architecture was dumb. Yet a multi-billion dollar corporation couldn't figure it out for themselves?*

  • @Jim-hm9ch
    @Jim-hm9ch 7 дней назад

    Ive been watching this channel for awhile now... i had no idea the dude was a minnie Arnold Schwarzenegger.

  • @joepearson6644
    @joepearson6644 Месяц назад +1

    How can you recommend Intel 😬

  • @westfield90
    @westfield90 Месяц назад

    I just purchased a new PC a month ago and it has an i514400F. I don’t play games or overclock. So I’m wondering if I’m ok? I just haven’t been able find out if this cpu is prone to this issue? I really don’t want to run any of the stress tests since that may permanently start the damage.

    • @Bugatti12563
      @Bugatti12563 Месяц назад

      You are good , non K i5 14th are alderlake and therefore safe

  • @JDD_Tech_MODS
    @JDD_Tech_MODS Месяц назад

    13900K/14900K average 40,000-42000 for Cinebench R23. 36000 is i7 scores.

  • @user-tc4tz8ww1z
    @user-tc4tz8ww1z Месяц назад +2

    We don't care about arrow lake. Fix the crap you got now

    • @Tugela60
      @Tugela60 Месяц назад +2

      I care about Arrow lake.
      My 13th gen CPU works just fine.

    • @nipa5961
      @nipa5961 Месяц назад +1

      If they don't fail within 12 months and are sold at half the price people might get interested again.

  • @Bojcha76
    @Bojcha76 Месяц назад +1

    Arrow Lake degrade-v2 available

  • @perceptivity_
    @perceptivity_ Месяц назад

    why can't we have more than 8 cores in a single CCD ?

  • @vensroofcat6415
    @vensroofcat6415 Месяц назад

    2 things that I'm actually curious about Intel next gen desktop - power targets and gaming performance around 300$. Wake me up when you learn more.

  • @slimjimjimslim5923
    @slimjimjimslim5923 Месяц назад +1

    Fight back with oxidation and microcode ? 😂😂😂

  • @Ferdinand208
    @Ferdinand208 Месяц назад

    We have to call them Economy cores.

  • @skychaos87
    @skychaos87 Месяц назад

    If QS is anything close to the final performance then its not really impressive, especially when its at 250w.

  • @PinayPicPeek
    @PinayPicPeek Месяц назад

    I can say I am lucky for I don't encounter any problem with my 14900k+rtx4090 combo. Daily rendering 8k videos for all my channel and never had any problem like all others are experiencing. Maybe they dont use the proper AIO to cool or they have wrong BIOS settings.

    • @cjgparas3
      @cjgparas3 Месяц назад

      100 percent failure rate. Just wait.

  • @Exelionmode
    @Exelionmode Месяц назад +8

    Good luck anyone who buy intel cpu ☠

  • @RedGamingTech
    @RedGamingTech  Месяц назад +8

    If you haven't checked out my new fitness channel yet, I'd really appreciate it! ♥
    www.youtube.com/@MuscleFoundryFitness

    • @attepatte8485
      @attepatte8485 Месяц назад

      Fitness!?

    • @hlbjk
      @hlbjk Месяц назад

      shut up please

    • @asmongoldsmouth9839
      @asmongoldsmouth9839 Месяц назад +1

      You are jacked,Paul. Looking great, bro. 👍

    • @kreamypie
      @kreamypie Месяц назад

      I thought itll be named RedMuscleTech

  • @stephenhuggan5151
    @stephenhuggan5151 Месяц назад +5

    trouble is it will take 3 years before they can be trusted again

    • @iequalsnoob
      @iequalsnoob Месяц назад +1

      hahaha ok fanboy. cope

    • @nipa5961
      @nipa5961 Месяц назад +2

      Problem is they couldn't be trusted for years already, but all they do is losing even more.

    • @quademasters249
      @quademasters249 Месяц назад

      Agreed.

    • @rallyscoot
      @rallyscoot Месяц назад +1

      I would never trust them again if you know the history of Intel.

    • @iequalsnoob
      @iequalsnoob 22 дня назад

      @@nipa5961 and that's why they still ourself amd by a very large margin but go on about their losing. Puget systems stats show amd has twice the failure rate that intel has

  • @xlrrockmusic
    @xlrrockmusic Месяц назад +1

    No way in hell I m buying intel until all that BS is adressed. I m staying on my i5-12600k thank you

  • @tosho09
    @tosho09 Месяц назад +1

    Intel fan boys are restless...keep doinn it AMD will thank u. :D :D

  • @michaelwoods7770
    @michaelwoods7770 Месяц назад

    im just gonna say it i didnt think you were this jacked man. nicely done.

  • @tonylawlor8833
    @tonylawlor8833 Месяц назад

    Intel fights back, so what are they doing for their customers who bought the dodgy CPU’s?

  • @TFx2TV
    @TFx2TV Месяц назад

    Paul's got his guns out again, he must mean business!

  • @KalashKat
    @KalashKat Месяц назад

    Getting buff Paul. Yeah I may go back to Alder Lake too, good suggestion.

  • @tonyburzio4107
    @tonyburzio4107 Месяц назад

    Intel just laid off a goodly portion of their workforce and cut the dividend.

  • @chris20001965
    @chris20001965 Месяц назад +3

    I’ve been team Intel for almost 30 years. After spending a small fortune on a 13th Gen system, I’m just done. I’ll be jumping ship to AMD.

  • @RickTheClipper
    @RickTheClipper Месяц назад +1

    Will be renamed to LAVA Lake

  • @ShaneMcGrath.
    @ShaneMcGrath. Месяц назад +1

    Looks mediocre, And after their 13th and 14th gen debacle. I'll let someone else be the guinea pig this time seeing I'm usually the one that beta tests and buys day one.

  • @MD-dl5hn
    @MD-dl5hn Месяц назад +5

    E-cores, for when you can't compete on power to performance normally. Wait for Intel to put all E-cores into low power devices like laptops.

    • @Blu9ty
      @Blu9ty Месяц назад +4

      I mean if you find another solution to the problem and help with the fact your p cores are giant why not take it (and arrow lake won’t be a power vacuum like the current self immolation obsessed raptor lake)

    • @dex6316
      @dex6316 Месяц назад +6

      I mean this time the E cores are actually really strong. More IPC than Raptor Cove is nothing to scoff at as it’s literally better than every Intel micro architecture before it. It can also clock into the 4GHz range which is more than enough in mobile. Skymont’s insanely good and reminiscent of earlier Intel micro architectures like Conroe and Sandybridge.

    • @jayvee8502
      @jayvee8502 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@dex6316But it must be more efficient than Zen 5c.

    • @nab-v1w
      @nab-v1w Месяц назад

      You can just downclock a p core if you want efficiency. E core turn on when needed so p core are always on, good luck for improving a laptop battery like that, maybe when e core will be enough for windows they will boot up first.

    • @levygaming3133
      @levygaming3133 Месяц назад +1

      They do actually make all-E-core laptops. It’s just that they only use the Intel N100, a 4 ecore single channel super budget cpu, meant for the pentium/celeron market.

  • @christophermullins7163
    @christophermullins7163 Месяц назад

    Paul, it is indeed ok. I too am a 36yo child. Much love for your content brother.

  • @Dogex670
    @Dogex670 Месяц назад

    Damn didnt know u were jacked, benchpress > benchmarks

  • @treyquattro
    @treyquattro Месяц назад

    throwing down the gauntlet to other non-buffed pencil neck geek tech RUclipsrs...

  • @user78405
    @user78405 23 дня назад

    its why intel gonna all in 12v only motherboard....to make it work well for PowerVia....for peripherals, it can have 2 options...either by PSU unit does conversion switching or motherboard that be only high end board can take advantage of 12v only PSU

  • @michaelmcconnell7302
    @michaelmcconnell7302 Месяц назад

    Are we still expecting no hyperthreading with arrow lake?

    • @impuls60
      @impuls60 Месяц назад

      Yes its officially confirmed by Intel.

    • @levygaming3133
      @levygaming3133 Месяц назад +1

      @@impuls60no it wasn’t. It was officially confirmed that _Lunar Lake_ won’t have hyperthreading “to better fit that platform”, and the engineers were quick to stress that when those p cores end up in server they will obviously be retaining hyperthreading, but made no comment one way or the other for arrow lake in the middle there.

  • @boneshogan5334
    @boneshogan5334 Месяц назад +1

    I personally agree that it’s a good idea to wait and see. While the 13th and 14th generations may have problems, it’s irrelevant to the performance of unreleased products.

  • @Shonkuk1
    @Shonkuk1 Месяц назад +1

    hey man we know your buff but save it for the other channel

  • @rednath7734
    @rednath7734 Месяц назад +1

    More like Intel "fires" back aha

  • @Shehryar89
    @Shehryar89 Месяц назад

    A Ryzen 5 5600X on the CPU side is more than enough for games coming until 2030. Considering it is better than PS5 and SX CPU offerings.
    Unreal Engine 6 & alike shall be available by then. It's pointless to upgrade the CPU every now and then for gaming use case only.

  • @Brian-er7no
    @Brian-er7no Месяц назад

    Should have titled it "Here's how to trade in your bad intel 13th and 14th gen chips: Wait for the 15th gen!" LOL

  • @DevouringKing
    @DevouringKing Месяц назад

    Abraham your muscles are Great Today

  • @t3amrr237
    @t3amrr237 Месяц назад +6

    I Definitely will upgrade to Arrow Lake... Intel is and always will be the best Cpu

    • @quademasters249
      @quademasters249 Месяц назад +1

      You must not be paying attention to the 50% failures rates on the 13 and 14 gen CPU's.

    • @mehck-gk9yn
      @mehck-gk9yn Месяц назад +3

      22+ years of Intel and I'll never ever EVER give them another dollar unless AMD has a problem at least 2x worse than my 13900k has and even then AMD will probably tell me about it instead of try to hide it and hope I never find out to RMA it. (F Intel btw)

    • @t3amrr237
      @t3amrr237 Месяц назад

      @@mehck-gk9yn well you say everything ...more than 22 years using Intel .... It could be some problems in Intel ... but i doubt that Intel don´t came Stronger than ever, in near future. I saw this movie years ago. Intel is not a small Company, and if you know how they inversted in Factories, you will be dumb if you think Intel will be on pair with amd, that´s it at the moment both companies have + - the same cpu Perfomance. Beside you talk about some problems with Intel cpu´s, looks like you forgot amd and cooking problems .

    • @nipa5961
      @nipa5961 Месяц назад +1

      Will always have the highest temperatures, power consumption and failure rates for sure.

    • @t3amrr237
      @t3amrr237 Месяц назад

      @@nipa5961 are you talking about amd fusion edition or cooking edition ????

  • @christopherramsay5517
    @christopherramsay5517 Месяц назад

    Will no buy Intel till they deal with 13th and 14th Gen Processors. Why did Intel take no action during 13th gen and 14th gen. Going AMD and Intel can go shove it. Profits ahead of customers. Intel needs to prove to us buyers that next processors are bug free.

  • @tigerbalm666
    @tigerbalm666 Месяц назад +1

    Pee cores and poop cores....

  • @TheFRKKK
    @TheFRKKK Месяц назад

    WHO'S been to the gym ????????????

  • @easyrider8185
    @easyrider8185 Месяц назад +1

    Great info, Paul.

    • @hlbjk
      @hlbjk Месяц назад

      wrong

  • @burglekutt2233
    @burglekutt2233 Месяц назад

    13700k no issue's here.

  • @unwaryrince
    @unwaryrince Месяц назад

    "Intel fights back", as though they are the underdog against big bully AMD.

  • @Darren_Tay
    @Darren_Tay Месяц назад

    7:30 What game is this?

  • @hlbjk
    @hlbjk Месяц назад

    Keep your hand still.

  • @Alonne1
    @Alonne1 Месяц назад +6

    No one and i mean NO ONE will risk buy Intel, the only way someone would buy it would be 2 years minimum after release with mutile tests to be sure the CPU doesnt have the same instability issues that 13th/14th gen and at taht point probably AMD would have a better option, Intel needs to sit down first and regain the trust of the consumers and then come up with a better product if they want to go against AMD

    • @rekareaper
      @rekareaper Месяц назад +1

      No issues with my 13900K or 14900K locked at 5.8/4.6 since I got them. The issue wasn’t really a major thing by itself, but compounded by board vendors defaulting to no power limits and pushing single core boost clocks across all cores. I set 13900Ks and 13900KSs up for a couple of my friends as well and none of them are having any issues either. Cooling is another factor as well.

    • @Simhero
      @Simhero Месяц назад

      I‘ll get it over Zen 5 for sure

    • @Simhero
      @Simhero Месяц назад

      If anyone thinks that’s an Intel Fanboy here, no I am using a 5900X and I am not happy with Ryzen

    • @jjlw2378
      @jjlw2378 Месяц назад

      I will be buying ArrowLake 285k and 9800x3d. I have a feeling ArrowLake/Z890 will be much more fun and interesting.

    • @rekareaper
      @rekareaper Месяц назад +1

      @@enilenis the motherboard vendors are just as much if not more at fault for not having power limits set by default. And anyone who buys a CPU like a 13900K or 14900K who doesn’t at least monitor their temperatures, power draw, voltages etc under load at least when they first get it or have someone else do it for them is an idiot. I see posts about people trying to OC these with no power budgets on 240mm and 360mm AIOs. The only AIO where it’s even worth the attempt is maybe the direct die AIO.

  • @RobH2022
    @RobH2022 Месяц назад

    My 14900k locked at 56p 43e. Always gets around 39k. Don't know where they got 36k. Iv never pulled a 36k

    • @AleraKira
      @AleraKira Месяц назад

      36k is if you run the CPU as it was to be supposed to be run under Intel guidelines before they pushed power profiles to beat Zen4 and cause issues for themselves

    • @RobH2022
      @RobH2022 Месяц назад +1

      @AleraKira I'm Running intel spec. 253 pl1 253. Pl2. 307amp. llc low. With an undervolt. Never had anything close to 36k ever

    • @AleraKira
      @AleraKira Месяц назад

      @@RobH2022 enforcing the baseline power limits as Intel suggests gets you 35851.

    • @RobH2022
      @RobH2022 Месяц назад

      @AleraKira says someone that doesn't have this cpu. Of course intel going to tell people the older cpu is getting a lower score because they want to push the new one lol. 14900k. Don't get 36k in R23

    • @AleraKira
      @AleraKira Месяц назад

      @@RobH2022 believe me or don't but that's literally what happens when you tune a BIOS to the settings Intel wants you to use...

  • @TruthbeforeTrust
    @TruthbeforeTrust Месяц назад +1

    Jacked Reviews 😊