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  • @justjonoutdoors
    @justjonoutdoors 9 месяцев назад +9

    The idea with Leuko tape & blisters is to use it as soon as you start to get a hot-spot - don’t wait until you get an actual blister. I do something similar, putting a piece of moleskin on a blister and putting Leuko tape over it. And yes, it doesn’t like being in the sun - I re-roll it onto a small piece of dowel, but I keep the dowel (with both Leuko & Duct tape on it) in my first aid kit out of the sun. (And yes, my wife is highly allergic to Leuko tape also - it seems to be something pretty rare, but it’s a real thing.)

  • @cheri7828
    @cheri7828 9 месяцев назад +2

    I throw my poles on top of my footprint near the edges to keep it from blowing.
    I then set the tent on top. I stake out the tent, then grab pole thats right under the tent and put it in place. BTW, I use 2 mil plastic as opposed to Tyvek, its lighter. I have no idea if it's sturdy enough for cacti, etc.

  • @PeaceLoveandHikerTrash
    @PeaceLoveandHikerTrash 9 месяцев назад +1

    You are so right about every point you made on the Leukotape! I found out the hard way that if you put it directly over a blister it will rip your blister open when you pull it off! It’s painful! I try to put it on a hot spot before a blister forms but I honestly don’t always feel the hot spot before the blister. Now I do what you do and I use a regular bandaid and then the Leukotape over that! So much better! Also if you do happen to get that sticky glue on your skin, hand sanitizer gets it right off. I haven’t tried using it on my sock to see if it will get it off there yet but I’m hoping it works! Great video! I’m so excited for your hike!

  • @michaelb1761
    @michaelb1761 9 месяцев назад +3

    When it's windy, I put a couple of rocks on my Tyvek groundsheet to hold it down while I put up my tent. Once the tent is up toss the rocks off to the side. A little late now, but maybe someone else will read this. It's a good idea to wash your Tyvek so that it isn't so stiff and noisy; it becomes cloth like. Strange about the Leukotape. I've been wrapping it around my trekking pole with no problems since I started using the stuff 6 or 7 years ago.

    • @hikingdancer
      @hikingdancer  9 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, I forgot there are rocks lol

  • @TheChantybb
    @TheChantybb 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great info about the Leukotape. Thanks for sharing!

  • @fitnessfreak498
    @fitnessfreak498 9 месяцев назад

    great new ideas for me thanks for sharing

  • @cwesi1
    @cwesi1 9 месяцев назад

    Great thoughts on management of Leukotape.. - Jiffy Pop

  • @susanb4481
    @susanb4481 9 месяцев назад +4

    I believe some people wash the tyvek in washing machine to soften it and therefore decrease stiffness and noise. Might be worth looking into. Also rain on PCT, PCT is a fairly dry trail until Washington in September.

    • @davidbrasfield6357
      @davidbrasfield6357 9 месяцев назад

      Yes, I saw that tip on another hiking channel some years ago and tried it, it does work - but you may get some of the thin strips to start peeling off. Also what will happen to her hitchhiking sign?!?

    • @hikingdancer
      @hikingdancer  9 месяцев назад +1

      I’ve already put it in a bucket of water all wrinkled up and it’s much better.

  • @barrybri
    @barrybri 9 месяцев назад

    Fold the 4 corners of the Tyvek sheet over and staple them to form a triangle loop for a string.
    I've always used the white athletic tape and cut strips to size from a 4"x4" sterile gauze pad for larger wounds.For finger cuts,I cut the athletic tape just long enough to join the 2 adhesive side ends together so the bandage doesn't come apart easily with use.Add some Neosporin or WM Equate antibiotic to the cuts for less chance of infection and to keep the adhesive tape or gauze pad from sticking to the wound.

  • @berniebroering7438
    @berniebroering7438 9 месяцев назад +2

    Insteaad of wax paper being the backing for your leukotape strips, I would recommend parchment paper. The tape would pull the surface coating of wax off of the wax paper and would render it less effective. Good work Road Runner! Cheers!

    • @hikingdancer
      @hikingdancer  9 месяцев назад +2

      I will have a look at parchment paper

  • @OldPackMule
    @OldPackMule 9 месяцев назад +3

    Band-Aid brand "Tough Strips". They have the good adhesive.

  • @shanksmare
    @shanksmare 9 месяцев назад +1

    With the ground sheet, you could tape the corners and cut slits (think button holes). They would not stand a lot of pressure, but you would not be using them that way. You can also cut tyvek straps and form them into loops by taping them to the corner. Or for that mater, just tape the cord directly to the tyvek. I usually cut my tyvek large enough to cover the bottom of my tent and the vestibule area. On my tent with two doors, I only cover one vestibule. You do get a little splash back on the footprint, but it does not amount to much. I find this is nice as it gives you a "porch" in front of your door. Helps keep the dirt etc out of your tent. As you noted, the big problem comes if your footprint is outside the fly. Then all the rain running down the fly hits the footprint and runs under the floor of your tent.
    Good Luck
    ~S

  • @Kay_Lorraine
    @Kay_Lorraine 9 месяцев назад +4

    Consider using tenacious tape to tape super light shock cord to the corners of your Tyvek. Put a loop at the end of the cord to put over your stake.
    I would test it on the Tyvek piece you cut off first to make sure Tenacious tape sticks well to Tyvek.
    Just a thought.... 😊

  • @HikeMichigan
    @HikeMichigan 9 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks for the leukotape tips. Great ideas regarding your ground sheet!

  • @miken7629
    @miken7629 9 месяцев назад +3

    I use cheaper Sports Tape from Walmart (in sports section), don't carry whole roll, wrap some around a pencil of something and stick in first aid kit, I carry 2" & 4" gauze pads because when I fall usually a larger area is skinned. Also, carry the syringe from Sawyer water filter if you have one, perfect to irrigate a cuts or wounds under pressure to remove dirt & bacteria.

    • @memathews
      @memathews 9 месяцев назад

      I do the same: gauze pads, duct tape, Sawyer syringe. It's a good solution.

    • @hikingdancer
      @hikingdancer  9 месяцев назад +1

      Nice tips for sure

  • @panhandlejake6200
    @panhandlejake6200 9 месяцев назад +2

    Wash the tyvek in your washing machine a few times - it will soften the material so it doesn't sound like a potato chip bag. It will soften further as you use it.
    When pitching in wind, I just lay one of my trekking poles on top of the ground sheet. Once the tent is on top, then I pull off (& use) the pole. I don't think there is need for grommets.
    It looks like you have the ground sheet sized about right. It is ok to get water between your tent floor and the tyvek. I think the primary benefit is to keep your tent cleaner.
    You might consider making a small piece that lays right in front of your door to act as a small porch. It keeps more dirt out of the tent. You will have to decide the size / weight that you are willing to go for. After your AT thru-hike, you may not need it.
    I have used Leukotape for some time. I carry small gauze pads to put between the tape and any wound. I use it mostly to cover developing hot spots (which have been rare). I put strips on parchment paper for easier use.

    • @hikingdancer
      @hikingdancer  9 месяцев назад +1

      I’ve already put it in a bucket of water all wrinkled up and it’s much better.

    • @panhandlejake6200
      @panhandlejake6200 9 месяцев назад

      @@hikingdancer I haven't tried that soni can't comment on how well that works. My understanding is the agitation in the washer significantly reduces the stiffness if the fabric. If you worked it in the bucket, you probably accomplished the same thing
      Have GREAT hike - I am jealous.....

  • @hops4305
    @hops4305 9 месяцев назад

    Yeah that house wrap makes a excellent ground cloth.

  • @Magnus.Anderlund
    @Magnus.Anderlund 9 месяцев назад +2

    Leukoplast was a product under BSN medical. BSN medical was established as a joint venture between Beiersdorf AG, Hamburg, and Smith & Nephew plc, London. I think Leukoplast was a brand from Beiersdorf.
    MSN medical have had a interesting journey, bought several times but is now part of the Swedish company Essity Health and medical.

    • @hikingdancer
      @hikingdancer  9 месяцев назад +1

      I was going to say it seemed very German but wasn’t sure

  • @stevenvarner9806
    @stevenvarner9806 9 месяцев назад

    I bought a box of Band-Aid First Aid Gauze Pads, 2 in x 2 in (25 individually sealed pads) to use with Leukotape. They make a great bandage combination. - I bought a Tyvek sheet with Tyvek tie off loops on each corner for a footprint.

  • @SmilesforMiles7
    @SmilesforMiles7 9 месяцев назад

    Good tips on the Leuko tape! Just a heads up about the Tyvek…People (including myself) usually wash the Tyvek in the washer one or 2 times before taking it out on trail to make it less noisy. I put mine in a regular top loading washer on regular wash, no soap, one time and it was a lot less noisy. Worked great on the AT in 2021. ~Smiles

    • @hikingdancer
      @hikingdancer  9 месяцев назад +1

      I’ve already put it in a bucket of water all wrinkled up and it’s much better.

  • @Pokey-vq4kn
    @Pokey-vq4kn 9 месяцев назад

    Great info!!!

  • @supporterofsanity
    @supporterofsanity 9 месяцев назад

    We used Tyvek on one trip and really didn’t like it. It seems bulky and heavy and everything in the world sticks to it especially when it’s wet. We just bit the bullet and bought a ground cloth specifically for our tent. It shakes off much more easily. It stores more compact. Also, since our tent is freestanding the poles actually help hold it in place. We are much happier with it. We actually bought a piece of polycro but never did use it since we got the ground cloth on sale.

  • @UncleGeorgeTV
    @UncleGeorgeTV 9 месяцев назад

    That is a neat idea 💡

  • @chimppyboy
    @chimppyboy 9 месяцев назад

    I'd use KT tape rather than leuko, it already has wax paper on it so it is easier to use.

  • @pleok08
    @pleok08 9 месяцев назад +1

    Sunday, February 25th: Use what works for you. Good luck! Happy Trails! Ross08

  • @jackgreene491
    @jackgreene491 9 месяцев назад

    You might want to write on it “PCT Hiker to Trail” on a different fold too!

  • @jimmyjohnstone5878
    @jimmyjohnstone5878 9 месяцев назад +2

    Tyvek is great stuff but it needs 'worn in' to get rid of the wrinkle noise. Scrunch it in a tub of water, squeeze it in all areas and then dry by hanging up. That gets the stiffness out of it so that it doesn't make a lot of noise when you move on it.
    Definitely have it sized to be within the size boundary of the tent. The fly sheet should definitely extend over the tyvek.

    • @rockytopwrangler2069
      @rockytopwrangler2069 9 месяцев назад +1

      ,,run it through a wash/dry cycle in machines , will soften and become quiet .

    • @jimmyjohnstone5878
      @jimmyjohnstone5878 9 месяцев назад

      @@rockytopwrangler2069 not the dryer ? Maybe ok in wash machine but mine was fine with a quick hand wash.

    • @hikingdancer
      @hikingdancer  9 месяцев назад +2

      I followed these instructions. Thanks so so soooooo much

  • @Get_Some_Nature
    @Get_Some_Nature 9 месяцев назад

    I wrap my Leukotape around a free plastic drinking straw to make small rolls of tape. Cut the straw after you wrap it around. I carry 2 mini rolls in my first aid Ziploc.

  • @rockytopwrangler2069
    @rockytopwrangler2069 9 месяцев назад +2

    .. Band-Aids are convenient for small simple wounds but if bleeding and open wound use a piece of gauze then Leukotape to seal ..... pretty much just making your own Band-aid to fit ... for longer pieces ,, can use freezer paper (similar to Parchment paper except one side moisture resistant ) .... or sheets used for labels ... (stamps,,stickers) ..
    ... Run Tyvek through a wash/dry cycle ... done,, soft and quiet .... nothing compares to cost and durability or weight .. weight on items like this is near enough too nothing ,, don't understand even to bother checking weight ....... important piece of gear to keep tent tub material from possible puncture from stones and sticks etc... plus a barrier from rain /snow moisture .......... Load your pack with all needed gear ,, it is what it is ... BE PREPARED ..... Don't become a gram weeny ,, sounds like your coming down with trail start anxiety.... De-stress .. You have enough experience to know what's important or taken to improve comfort .... Load up and GO ....Have FUN ... Stay Safe and God Bless ...

  • @berniebroering7438
    @berniebroering7438 9 месяцев назад

    For your idea of grommets on the Tyvec, great idea, consider plastic drapery grommets, lighter and smaller. Punch the hole, place the grommet, cut a line long enough for a tye out to a stake and string it permanently to your grommet.

  • @wanderingwithbob2472
    @wanderingwithbob2472 9 месяцев назад

    Take a look at the video I sent you about squaring up the tub on the tent. That will help a lot with the wind and rain. Another awesome video.

  • @robertligas250
    @robertligas250 9 месяцев назад

    Some people will put the Tyvek in the washing machine and it will help it be more flexible and less noisy and after more uses it does become more flexible. Looking forward to your start date.

    • @hikingdancer
      @hikingdancer  9 месяцев назад +2

      I’ve already put it in a bucket of water all wrinkled up and it’s much better.

  • @Get_Some_Nature
    @Get_Some_Nature 9 месяцев назад

    I cut my polycro ground cloth 1 inch shorter than my Duplex floor. I'm not sure how often I'll us it on the PCT. Mostly carrying it to cowboy camp.

    • @hikingdancer
      @hikingdancer  9 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah I think the tyvek is mostly for the desert

  • @omgBort
    @omgBort 9 месяцев назад +1

    use rocks to weigh down your tyvek so it doesn’t blow away during setup.

  • @wanttogo1958
    @wanttogo1958 9 месяцев назад

    With Leukotape and a Telfa pad you can make your own bandaid or cover for hotspots and blisters. You’ll need scissors to cut a piece of the Telfa pad off.

  • @williamfaulhaber2471
    @williamfaulhaber2471 9 месяцев назад

    I wrap Glow in the Dark duct tape (it is the stickiest and not temperature sensitive) onto my hiking sticks. Zhivago.

  • @musingwithreba9667
    @musingwithreba9667 9 месяцев назад

    I prefer blister plasters for blisters. They don't leave sticky gunk on your socks. And they pretty much stay on until the blister is healed.

  • @cjengland2365
    @cjengland2365 9 месяцев назад

    Good info. So jealous seeing you walk barefoot on your Florida backyard. The fire ants would eat me alive if I tried that in mine!

  • @ThanatosWings
    @ThanatosWings 9 месяцев назад +1

    "Band Aid" brand bandaids are more like german bandaids but a bit less sticky. They won't rip your skin off. Any other brand just falls off and is useless.
    I find tyvek too bulky and my sheets always weigh more than a piece of nylon ground cloth. No tyvek i cut for my tents weighed less than my MSR nylon ground sheet. So, idk why people use it. If you soften it to pack easier by washing it, it stops being waterproof. I'm not going to use one and see how that goes.
    I use a small peice as a rain cape for my dog, i cut two holes in it to button it to my dogs pack on either side. Nothing happened to the holes, they didn't get bigger. You could just cut a small hole in the corners of the tyvek and slide the cord through. I wouldn't bother with gromets.

    • @hikingdancer
      @hikingdancer  9 месяцев назад +1

      Gould thought about grommets and just putting holes in

  • @jakeva9802
    @jakeva9802 9 месяцев назад +1

    Put Hiker to Trail also

  • @gollwoods3854
    @gollwoods3854 9 месяцев назад

    Foil might work too instead of wax paper

    • @hikingdancer
      @hikingdancer  9 месяцев назад +2

      Foil? Like aluminum foil?

  • @justjonoutdoors
    @justjonoutdoors 9 месяцев назад

    OK - I was just going to explain about making sure the ground sheet is shorter all the way around - it’s better to go too small than too large. If you are going to add grommets, you want to reinforce the locations with tyvek tape - on the corner, go both ways.

  • @jackpine62
    @jackpine62 9 месяцев назад

    Throw the tyvek in your washing machine a couple of times. After that, and after using it a couple of times, it's considerably quieter.

    • @hikingdancer
      @hikingdancer  9 месяцев назад +2

      I’ve already put it in a bucket of water all wrinkled up and it’s much better.

  • @justjonoutdoors
    @justjonoutdoors 9 месяцев назад

    Something you can do to help with the noise from the Tyvek - crumple it up well several times, then open it back up and put it in your dryer on your lowest (or no) heat setting with a couple tennis balls. Run that 4 or 5 times and it will be MUCH quieter! This doesn’t appear to have any effect on it’s waterproofness or durability.

    • @hikingdancer
      @hikingdancer  9 месяцев назад +1

      I’ve already put it in a bucket of water all wrinkled up and it’s much better.

  • @jamesbailey9838
    @jamesbailey9838 9 месяцев назад

    OHHHH NOOOOO!
    You poor thing.... you have Saint Augustine grass.
    My heart goes out to you.

    • @hikingdancer
      @hikingdancer  9 месяцев назад +1

      I love my grass.

    • @jamesbailey9838
      @jamesbailey9838 9 месяцев назад

      @hikingdancer Well, you must not mow it yourself

    • @hikingdancer
      @hikingdancer  9 месяцев назад +1

      Oh I do! It’s a really great workout lol

    • @jamesbailey9838
      @jamesbailey9838 9 месяцев назад

      You bet it's a workout! If the roots get really thick It's like pushing a mower on top of ten blankets.

  • @dragonblaze9742
    @dragonblaze9742 9 месяцев назад

    Make sure it's cold water and no soap when you wash the tyvek

  • @dragonblaze9742
    @dragonblaze9742 9 месяцев назад

    If you wash the tyvek and let it sit out and dry it won't be loud anymore it really works I did it you'll think me later lol

    • @hikingdancer
      @hikingdancer  9 месяцев назад +1

      I’ve already put it in a bucket of water all wrinkled up and it’s much better.

  • @joesoutdoorplaces
    @joesoutdoorplaces 9 месяцев назад

    Research yourself. But I wash my Tyvek once on heavy duty cycle before I use it. It makes the material more supple, and you do not have all that cracking noise. I’m not sure how it affects the moisture resistance.

    • @hikingdancer
      @hikingdancer  9 месяцев назад +1

      I’ve already put it in a bucket of water all wrinkled up and it’s much better.

  • @trexinvert
    @trexinvert 9 месяцев назад +1

    It's getting close to that date. I watched your previous hike and I appreciate your posting frequency.
    Most thru hikers who do posting will wait till they finish and then post a 1 hr video of their highlights.
    That's fine but that's "last year". Most of us youtube hikers really enjoy "following along in almost real time".
    The few thru hikers who post every few days or few weeks are amazing.
    You take us along with you and we really appreciate that.
    It's almost like being there, and especially for Californians/Oregonians/Washingtonians like me.
    We encounter relatively the same weather and can have a sense of what you are hiking thru.
    My favorite PCT 2023 vloggers from last year are:
    ruclips.net/video/fKvT-mBSo18/видео.htmlfeature=shared
    ruclips.net/video/EDOTn-ocX5g/видео.htmlfeature=shared
    The Codgers were amazing because of their age and never give up attitude.
    Ash from Ireland had a really shaky beginning with covid and her backpack getting lost on her flight.

    • @hikingdancer
      @hikingdancer  9 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you so much for the encouragement and yeah I like almost in real time posts by vloggers too

  • @Mikehastohike
    @Mikehastohike 9 месяцев назад

    I think you think too much😂 It’s great on your trekking pole if it breaks. It can be taped around a joint like a knee or ankle and will actually work the same as wrapping it in like an ace bandage only better from what I understand.

    • @hikingdancer
      @hikingdancer  9 месяцев назад +2

      Gotcha . Lemmie stop thinking

    • @Mikehastohike
      @Mikehastohike 9 месяцев назад

      @@hikingdancerDon’t stop thinking, just don’t overthink certain things

  • @Get_Some_Nature
    @Get_Some_Nature 9 месяцев назад

    To make tyvek stop making noise, run it through your washing machine on cold. Then air dry it. Don't put it in the dryer! The washer will create tons of miniature wrinkles and it won't make any noise after it air dries.

  • @Ravenhawk59
    @Ravenhawk59 9 месяцев назад +1

    Might be from Germany aka „LEUKOPLAST“

    • @hikingdancer
      @hikingdancer  9 месяцев назад +1

      Probably. It seemed very German to me

  • @stanr5645
    @stanr5645 9 месяцев назад

    Band aids suck if you WORK with your hands, lucky if they stay on 1 hrs,I always put duck tape or electrical tape over to keep it on

    • @hikingdancer
      @hikingdancer  9 месяцев назад +1

      Leukotape will help with that

  • @paganed
    @paganed 9 месяцев назад

    No Grommets .. waste of time, and they will rub your floor if you have something on top of the corner in the tent
    .
    I also use my tyvek sheet as a butt pad .. saves weight
    I went for 'ultra-light' + Soft (used for clothing) : Tyvek Sheet 1443R
    .
    i cut my dimensions of tent floor .. then cut it again after I laid on it with bag and some arm room space all around (in case of cowboy camping) .. my stuff holds it down .. when its windy here in Cali, there's always a rock. Total weight 2.7 ounces

    • @hikingdancer
      @hikingdancer  9 месяцев назад

      Good light weight for sure

  • @LumberZachAdventures
    @LumberZachAdventures 9 месяцев назад

    If you put the tyvek in the dryer for a couple minutes it won’t make that annoying noise when folding it out and packing it back up. It will be quiet. Especially if you roll into camp late.

    • @Get_Some_Nature
      @Get_Some_Nature 9 месяцев назад

      In the washer, not the dryer!!! It will melt in the dryer!

    • @hikingdancer
      @hikingdancer  9 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks

    • @LumberZachAdventures
      @LumberZachAdventures 9 месяцев назад

      I meant to say washer. Sorry. Not sure what I was thinking when I typed dryer. lol 😂

  • @susietopspin
    @susietopspin 9 месяцев назад

    I also have a duplex and have wondered about a ground sheet but the one time I tried it blew all over the place. As for the Leukotape, I’ve heard RUclipsrs say it helps to put on hot spots before a blister starts. Is that right on the skin? Now I’m confused. Happy trails.🤘🏻🥾⛰️

    • @hikingdancer
      @hikingdancer  9 месяцев назад +1

      Yes you would put the Leukotape right on the skin if it’s only a hot spot. Once the blister is formed I would not put it directly on it. I forgot to go into detail about that.

    • @susietopspin
      @susietopspin 9 месяцев назад

      @@hikingdancerthanks for confirming. That’s what I thought.👍🏻😊