DIY Tyvek tent footprint the RIGHT way

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  • Опубликовано: 17 июл 2024
  • In this video I share the right way to make a custom DIY Tyvek footprint for your tent. Building your own footprint will save money, ensure a great fit and give you the chance to add features you may not be able to find in a purchased footprint. I also explain how to build the footprint to help keep your tent dry when it rains. After watching this video you should understand exactly how to create a footprint of your own.
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  • @eaglessj
    @eaglessj 2 года назад +31

    Awesome tutorial. I did the same as yours except I sewed the edge instead of gluing it. I also added anchor points on all the corners by simply using adhesive tyvek anchor tabs and then sewing them.
    Adding a short section of shock cord tied to a paracord loop on the anchor tabs allows me to attach the ground sheet to my tent stakes to keep it taught and centered under my tent. (I use the paracord loop for the tent stake end for durability purposes)

  • @seaotter52
    @seaotter52 3 года назад +32

    Good video. I like to keep my footprint smaller than the inner tent to keep splash and blowing water from getting on top of the sheet. I also like a porch but it's usually just an extra piece so I can move it around as a door mat, a seat, or a knee rest if I am on the ground. Gotta love Tyvek

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  3 года назад +5

      Tyvek is so tough. I’ve been using mine for years and it’s still going strong.

    • @christopherhaak9824
      @christopherhaak9824 2 года назад +6

      The footprint should always be a little bit smaller than the tent bottom for the reasons you mention. There is absolutely no reason to make it larger, it is just asking for trouble if water gets on top of it, and it will if it rains sideways.

  • @Shan-outnabout
    @Shan-outnabout Год назад +6

    I have cut off the ground sheet bath tub off my old tent and now making a ground sheet/footprint for my new tent. I found your video very helpful ❤

  • @MrWhatever9999
    @MrWhatever9999 Год назад +2

    Whoa! I made Tyvek footprint, but it looks very beautiful/functional. Good idea for creating porch area, too! Nice video!

  • @Orrlur
    @Orrlur 2 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for a very detailed step by step instructions. I love the rain thing that you showed.

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  2 года назад +2

      In a week or two I’m making a similar video on how to make a Polycro footprint for people with Dyneema tents. Stay tuned.

  • @crustyoldfool2261
    @crustyoldfool2261 Год назад +4

    Thanks for the instruction and advice. Just built a Tyvek footprint for a new tent following your guidance, and using the carpenter's rule - measure twice, cut once. Worked great, as I made a layout error on the Tyvek and caught it before making any cuts. Wish I could add a pic or two just to show the beginning and end results. Got the Tyvek for free, but paid for the glue and gromets - total

  • @RisingSunRidin
    @RisingSunRidin 3 года назад

    Thank you for this. I made a 10x14 Tyvek footprint thanks to you.

  • @myvoiceyourstory9338
    @myvoiceyourstory9338 Год назад

    Thank you so much sir ! Absolutely brilliant info and you answered all questions I had . God bless you

  • @peterdiotte3327
    @peterdiotte3327 Год назад +1

    Another great video Jon - just what I needed. I bought a tyvek footprint with my new tent and from the tent mfg it was NOT cut to the footprint. It was just a big rectangle. Geez. Pleased you've shown me the way. Thanks.

  • @kwindover3290
    @kwindover3290 Год назад

    Great video! My golden retriever perked up once Maverick joined you! 😂 I was going to share a picture of him watching but I guess I can’t do that in comments. Thanks for sharing!

  • @GBGreenman
    @GBGreenman 3 года назад +6

    Thanks for calling me out, I did like the re-enactment - very scientific. My favorite part of this video though was your helper, I will make sure to have my own such helper if I ever take on this project!

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  3 года назад

      You are welcome! Thanks for watching every week.

  • @boopernator
    @boopernator 2 года назад

    very good instructions on making the tyvek foot print for a tent.

  • @sjndrws
    @sjndrws Год назад +4

    Excellent video! Just what I needed. =) I got excited when you threw in the grommets at the last minute because this has been part of my design plan. I think I'll attach cord to mine, though, so that the footprint shares the same stakes as the rest of the tent. Glad you pointed out the need to fold over the corners! Wouldn't have thought of that myself if I was winging it.

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  Год назад

      Glad the video helped. I think you’ll enjoy your new footprint.

  • @SueK-fp2fh
    @SueK-fp2fh 3 месяца назад

    Thanks for sharing, looking forward to making it for our tent.

  • @Viajero69
    @Viajero69 3 года назад

    Great video and very well presented. Subscribed. Cheers!

  • @Medickep
    @Medickep 2 года назад

    great video! nice hack with the washer!

  • @gregsus4536
    @gregsus4536 3 года назад +6

    Great video. Well thought out and produced. Thanks for the tips. A tip of my own, ditch the contact cement brush and use a two inch single use chip brush ($1.30). Pour 3oz of contact cement in a clean single serve yogurt container. Fast, even, thin coat of contact cement. Using my new footprint this weekend.

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  3 года назад +2

      Awesome! Thanks for the tip on the contact cement.

  • @techguy9023
    @techguy9023 3 месяца назад

    I picked up some scrap foam underlayment for engineered laminate floors that is slightly less than 1/8 inch thick. Bright yellow so I won’t forget it. Works great.

  • @nihalvlivion9219
    @nihalvlivion9219 Год назад

    Thank you so much! This will be my first tiny myog project 🙂

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  Год назад

      Tyvek is also great as a bottom layer for cowboy camping. Good luck with your project.

  • @simonvoorspoels5819
    @simonvoorspoels5819 3 года назад +6

    Thanks for sharing your idee! I am gona make a Tyvek (soft version) groundsheet like yours for my 3F UL Lanshan 1 Pro. Great totorial, your channel deserves more attention!

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  3 года назад +1

      Thank you! Let me know how it turns out.

    • @simonvoorspoels5819
      @simonvoorspoels5819 3 года назад +1

      @@jonallenoutside it went alright but I have a feeling that the classic tyvek stronger is than the soft tyvek.

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  3 года назад +1

      @@simonvoorspoels5819 I didn’t even know there was more than one kind of Tyvek.

    • @simonvoorspoels5819
      @simonvoorspoels5819 3 года назад

      @@jonallenoutside Tyvek 1442R is the specific name

    • @paulmackilligin1754
      @paulmackilligin1754 Год назад

      Noooo! The soft version is no good for this application, although is is great for clothing. The hard version is much tougher and more puncture-resistant. Also it has the great virtue of not needing to be pulled flat as a soft fabric would as it just naturally sits flat and stays flat so no need for grommets or ties or stakes.

  • @ipedros7
    @ipedros7 2 года назад +1

    Really great detail, you get a really neat end product. Thumbs up.
    I'm more gung-ho I guess. I've grabbed a 2.5x1.5m piece, ensure to fold/tuck the sheet under the tent's own groundsheet (keeping it slightly smaller, 1 inch or so less area), so no water run-in. Never had an issue of it moving but always check. The benefit is can use for other tents and purposes (light tarp when moving, etc just twist corner ends + cord to create a loop/stake point). Horses for courses.

    • @paulmackilligin1754
      @paulmackilligin1754 Год назад +1

      Same. Just fold it under. No need to stake out Tyvek as it is so stiff, it doesn't ruck up. I just use a simple rectangular piece and fold any corners under. A rectangle is easier to fold up, and has other uses.

  • @theranberceau8684
    @theranberceau8684 3 года назад +5

    Thanks for the footprint! Saw in my memories that this was the weekend we went up north on the ice age trail last year. Can't wait to get back out there!

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  3 года назад

      You are welcome! Thanks for all the great backpacking trips!

  • @EventyrsorenDenmark
    @EventyrsorenDenmark 3 года назад

    Great video.Enjoyed it very much.You did a good job making this video.Looking forward for more.ATB:Soren.

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  3 года назад +1

      Thank you! Let me know if you decide to build your own tent footprint using my guide. I’d love to see how it turned out.

  • @PacificNorthwestBowhunting
    @PacificNorthwestBowhunting Год назад

    Great video!

  • @Clay_Maguire
    @Clay_Maguire 9 месяцев назад +13

    None of the footprint should be visible. ANY portion of footprint extending past the bottom of the tent WILL catch rain, and channel it under your floor. Ask me how I know this.

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  9 месяцев назад +1

      Sounds like a good story there!

    • @jamesbowen5573
      @jamesbowen5573 6 месяцев назад +1

      That's what I was thinking and also if you're going to use it for that tent it would be really easy to use Velcro adhesives Or double-sided carpet tape, And stick that thing to the bottom of the tent and you never have to mess with it again, Unless you get a hole in it and then you can repair it with duct tape.

    • @dfjdskf9234j4fisd
      @dfjdskf9234j4fisd 20 дней назад

      Does water damage the bottom of the tent?

    • @Clay_Maguire
      @Clay_Maguire 19 дней назад

      @@dfjdskf9234j4fisd - Damage? No. Miserable night trying to sleep in a puddle INSIDE your tent? ABSOLUTELY!

    • @dfjdskf9234j4fisd
      @dfjdskf9234j4fisd 17 дней назад

      @@Clay_Maguire Is your tent not waterproof?

  • @matt_man411
    @matt_man411 10 месяцев назад

    This is brilliant THANK YOU

  • @Treefrogging
    @Treefrogging 2 месяца назад

    Many thanks very helpful

  • @katehayford5086
    @katehayford5086 2 года назад

    Thanks for posting! I just made one for my Nemo Hornet, and it’s in the washing machine right now! I’ll have a porch, but it will be a separate piece, as someone posted earlier. Also, I didn’t create a glued hem, but I do have room to do that in the future if I feel like it would be beneficial.

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  2 года назад

      Awesome! Glad it worked for you!

    • @christopherhaak9824
      @christopherhaak9824 2 года назад +2

      There is no need for a glued hem on the edges except for at the corners to reinforce them if you grommet them or intend to tie them out to the stakes. Tyvek has extremely good tear strength, so with a good clean edge cut, hemming the edges just increases weight and is a waste of material.

  • @drumlabyoutubechannel
    @drumlabyoutubechannel Год назад

    well done, thanks

  • @paulmackilligin1754
    @paulmackilligin1754 Год назад +10

    Hmm, ...I have used a Tyvek tent groundsheet protector (AKA 'footprint') like this for many years, and I shall now share my experience in response to this video.
    Firstly, yes, if it is too wide/long then rainwater will indeed run on top of it and run underneath the groundsheet of the tent. However, you need to have the footprint smaller even than the groundsheet of the tent, otherwise rain-blown wind will still run in under the groundsheet. Bear in mind also that when the wind blows, the flysheet will be blown in closer to the inner tent as well.
    You should not see the Tyvek footprint AT ALL. The groundsheet will still be adequately protected as it is only the areas where your bodyweight is lying that are vulnerable to significant damage. The outer inch or two of the tent floor gets hardly any weight on it in normal use, so doesn't need protection.
    Secondly, Tyvek is not a woven fabric and does not need to be 'hemmed'. You can simply cut it to size and leave it at that. It won't rip at the edge as a woven fabric might.
    Thirdly, the noise, the crinkly noise, is of no consequence at all in this application. In fact it is better not to muss it up but to leave it hard and flat, as that makes it easier to slide into position under a tent. It will also take up less space in your pack if it is left hard and flat. Pack it folded, unfold it, slide it under the tent, fold it up after use. How is it going to flap in the wind if it is underneath the tent with none sticking out. It can't flap, so will make no noise.

    • @rinna88
      @rinna88 Год назад +2

      This makes a lot of sense! 👍

    • @seakyle8320
      @seakyle8320 4 месяца назад

      thanks a lot for clearify

  • @martinirons-roberts5211
    @martinirons-roberts5211 2 года назад

    Thanks for the great video. I’ll be making this weekend to help me survive the Scottish winter. The only bit I could do with some advice on is the grommets and how you go about fitting them. Many Thanks Martin

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  2 года назад

      I set my tent on the finished footprint to mark where the grommets would go. I needed to be sure the poles were stretched out where they would be when the tent was fully set up.

    • @martinirons-roberts5211
      @martinirons-roberts5211 2 года назад

      Thanks John. I’ll let you know how this works out. Cheers Martin

  • @perambulatingmike
    @perambulatingmike 2 года назад

    Great video....thanks!

  • @92Pyromaniac
    @92Pyromaniac 3 месяца назад

    Fantastic tutorial! The only thing I'm thinking to do differently is to cut some little reinforcement triangles for the grommets and sandwich them between the sheet and the folded edge. Perhaps not neccessary with tyvek but I never totally trust metal grommets not to fail.

  • @chris6499
    @chris6499 3 года назад

    Thank you. Really saved me a trip to Home Depot with the Ebay insight. Just ordered. Thorough presentation! New subscriber and liked of course.

  • @easterlake
    @easterlake Год назад

    Thanks. If you ever drive by an area where homes are being built, the guys wrapping houses always have Tyvek pieces lying around.
    $20 is no big deal, but free is nice.

  • @danmarshall8420
    @danmarshall8420 2 года назад

    Love the video! I have a BA Salt Creek 2 (which has two side doors & a end large door for the porch area). Would you recommend cutting a small floor mat area in front of the two side doors as well?

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  2 года назад

      Maybe just one of the two side doors (whichever one you use the most).

  • @force10jc
    @force10jc Год назад

    I never see anyone extending their footprint under the vestibule and always wondered why. I always thought it was ideal for the same reasons you point out here.

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  Год назад

      I think it also gives you more material to play with if you want to use your footprint as a bottom layer for cowboy camping.

  • @jasonbell6019
    @jasonbell6019 2 года назад +1

    Great video , and some good information . But you could just draw round your tent once its off the tyvek

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  2 года назад +2

      I tried that and it’s way harder than it sounds to get it precise. However, I’m a bit nutty about making things perfect so I take the long route.

  • @ulperformance4087
    @ulperformance4087 5 месяцев назад

    You might want to consider making a heat reflective Tyvek 14-S tent footpring/ground sheet. Quest Outfitters sells the material.

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  5 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the tip. I’ll look into that.

  • @RoeMega25
    @RoeMega25 3 года назад +4

    To make the tyvek quiet some say put it in the washer. Will washing shrink the tyvek? Should I cut after washing?

    • @jacobdunning8373
      @jacobdunning8373 2 года назад

      Drying will shrink, washing should not. Just hang dry it

    • @paulmackilligin1754
      @paulmackilligin1754 Год назад

      Why wash it? It isn't going to be noisy underneath your tent where the wind can't get at it. The stiffness is an advantage.

  • @davidkierzkowski
    @davidkierzkowski Год назад

    Tent manufacturers should include something like this

  • @hajerm
    @hajerm 2 года назад

    thanks for posting this! I have been wanting to make my own footprint, as it seems super easy... but my tent poles fit into grommets that are on the end of tabs, so I think I will need to attach tabs to the footprint if I want to install grommets. the grommets make it lay so well underneath, and secure it... I just don't think I should sew the tabs on.... or maybe its ok to do that, since its minimal stitching, and only in the corners? what do you think? for reference, I have the North Face Wawona 4P tent thanks!

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  2 года назад

      Grommets go well on the footprint without needing tabs. I have grommets on mine and they work great.

  • @Olan...
    @Olan... 2 года назад +1

    New subscriber, that was are really good demo.....does it make any difference if the Tyvek is Writing side up or not ???

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  2 года назад +2

      Makes no difference, although you’ll want to be consistent with the side you place toward the ground because it will get dirty and accumulate little pieces of leaf and brush over time. Shaking it out helps, but doesn’t seem to get all of it.

    • @Olan...
      @Olan... 2 года назад

      @@jonallenoutside thanks for the heads up 👍

  • @LordQuiche
    @LordQuiche 3 года назад

    What is the folded edge for please?
    I have the same tent, I’ll be making one soon, thanks for the vid 🖖

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  3 года назад +2

      It gives the edge a bit of reinforcement, which is especially helpful if you install grommets for tent stakes or tent poles. Certainly not required though.

    • @LordQuiche
      @LordQuiche 3 года назад

      @@jonallenoutside great thanks 🙏

  • @roebucksadventure
    @roebucksadventure Год назад

    great video. What size do you use as the top that touches the tent?

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  Год назад

      I'm not sure I understand the question. Can you restate it a different way?

  • @abdullaex4119
    @abdullaex4119 2 года назад

    Your point on the rain under the tent is well taken. My concern is the rocks and pointy sticks. Tyvek is good stuff but I have never used it. Appears to be good stuff. Point to make; After clearing the area for your tent, is this Tyvek material resistant to the sharp rock or pointy stick missed during construction of your humble abode? Only to find your sleep mate sinking in the water?
    Thanks Amigo
    Many thanks
    Peace from Texas

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  2 года назад

      Tyvek is very, very tough. I doubt you could puncture it with a stick even if you tried. I've been using mine for years on all types of surfaces and it doesn't have a single hole in it.

    • @paulmackilligin1754
      @paulmackilligin1754 Год назад +1

      Sticks should be fine. The only thing that punctured my own Tyvek footprint was some razor-sharp little stones about the size and shape of coins embedded in the soil on a Norwegian mountain. I cleared as many as I could but on packing up found a couple of small slits in the Tyvek. In practice though, the tent floor itself remained undamaged, so the footprint did its job, and also the footprint has continued to work just fine, despite those two tiny slits, and I have not felt the need to replace it.

  • @jimb7131
    @jimb7131 3 года назад

    Thank you - very helpful. Can you tell us the final weight of the footprint. I'd also be curious to know if that weight was more or less than the tent manufacturer's footprint. I suspect yours is of better quality.

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  3 года назад +2

      Final weight of 7.8 ounces.

    • @paulmackilligin1754
      @paulmackilligin1754 Год назад +2

      Tyvek Housewrap/Homewrap has a published weight per sq foot or sq metre, so you can calculate the weight of any given area in advance.

  • @Inkling777
    @Inkling777 2 года назад

    Those who'd like one lighter and less noisy might look for those selling Dupont Liner Softwrap Tyvek 14M rather than the house wrap variety, Tyvek 1443R. You might also buy some to sew into a bag creates a very cheap bivy sack the might serve well enough in a light rain and will add extra warmth.

  • @TheGrumpyExplorer
    @TheGrumpyExplorer Год назад +1

    If the footprint is slightly bigger than the tent but wind is driving the rain onto the tent horizontally surely it will capture the water and wet under the tent?

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  Год назад

      I've not had this happen and I've camped in some windy and wet conditions.

  • @nedanother9382
    @nedanother9382 2 года назад +1

    leave food in your tent and that dog will be a bear clawing at the tent....that was funny. This video is a cpl years old but I'd still say you and I are way late to the table on tyvek. I'm not sure I've even done a trip with it yet, but tyvek is just flat out bad ass...I had never held a piece. Its a little heavy compared to clear plastic but I think a little lighter than most actual footprints. Mine doubles as a really good rain kilt. like really good - typical tent length wrapped around me a full one and a half times meaning that no matter the wind its solid - wrap it and roll it down and it stays. I finish secure it with a tiny bungy around the waste.
    all the rest of the day its a great piece to lay on keep your stuff out of wet spots and pokeys...this stuff is just fantastic.
    It's cool but not necessary to do the grommets and border work but definitely try out this very versatile gear.

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for the commentary. It's a big win any time you can have a piece of equipment serve more than one purpose.

    • @paulmackilligin1754
      @paulmackilligin1754 Год назад

      @@jonallenoutside True words. Dual-use stuff saves a LOT of weight.

  • @iraa9935
    @iraa9935 15 дней назад

    What washer setting did you use?

  • @Del-ok8uw
    @Del-ok8uw 7 дней назад

    If you have some leftover from a job or know someone that has some it would be great . Last time I checked tyvek is very expensive . You can buy footprint tarps failed cheap , just go with no name brand . Good video though 👍

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  7 дней назад

      @@Del-ok8uw I bought mine on eBay and it was inexpensive. Just checked eBay and there are several options around the $20 range with shipping.

  • @donaldwalter1317
    @donaldwalter1317 2 года назад +1

    I did try this tyvek material once for ground sheet but found it was a bit big (volume) to pack once folded. I than found a light weight “emergency blanket” that has reflective material on one side and orange on other. This basic blanket was nearly the perfect size for a 1 person tent footprint and packed much smaller. It’s maybe not as strong as the tyvek but it works for cycle camping where volume and weight are critical.

    • @DiabloOutdoors
      @DiabloOutdoors Год назад +3

      The emergency blankets are very weak and will puncture on the spot. That's why it's not a good option since the reason for a groundsheet is to protect your tent floor to be.... punctured.

    • @michaelharrison9445
      @michaelharrison9445 2 месяца назад

      Yes I tried an emergency blanket as a footprint and it punctured in multiple places on the first night of use, I’m going back to my tyvek one!

  • @MakesaGoodGumbo
    @MakesaGoodGumbo 11 месяцев назад

    Mind telling me what tent that is? Not looking for an endorsement, but I like the little strap connecting the tent body to the fly to pull the tent corner out just above ground level. That can be clearly seen at 2:30 Thanks!

  • @DaveHarper
    @DaveHarper 2 года назад +4

    Great tutorial and love extending into the vestibule, but for layout, seems it would be much easier to just set the tent up on the tyvek sheet and mark the cut lines around the tent rather than mess with graph paper and detailed measurements

    • @nedanother9382
      @nedanother9382 2 года назад +2

      I subscribe to the school of "theres always a more fussy expensive and time consuming way to make things better" whether it needs it or not.

  • @DiamondHeadbyMoonlight
    @DiamondHeadbyMoonlight 2 месяца назад

    Can you use a tarp as a substitute to Tyvek?

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  2 месяца назад +1

      I don’t see why not. Tyvek is commonly used because it’s cheap and durable.

  • @nikoulph
    @nikoulph 11 месяцев назад

    I'm still a bit confused, as I've read on French and English blogs, that: Added the body weight pressure on moist or wet ground, the Tyvek will eventually leak, and small ponds of water will form in between the tent floor and the Tyvek footprint. Eventually leaking inside the tent...
    Am I wrong? Or it is accurate what I've wrote?
    Thanx for the video

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  11 месяцев назад +1

      I’ve never heard of Tyvek leaking. It’s incredibly durable.

  • @RGNightHawwk
    @RGNightHawwk 3 года назад

    Where can you get a large enough sheet of tyvek?

  • @user-leotom
    @user-leotom 3 года назад

    Спасибо! делаю согласно вашего видео!

  • @jegash7
    @jegash7 2 года назад

    How much the tvyek weighs after the complete process?

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  2 года назад

      Mine was 7.8 ounces, but it will vary a bit based on how big you make it.

  • @chomp54321
    @chomp54321 Год назад

    Does it matter which side of the Tyvek contacts the ground?

  • @calypsoraz4318
    @calypsoraz4318 2 года назад

    I put mine though the wash and only half of the dumb thing has gotten wrinkly. No matter what I do lol.

  • @MoxxMix
    @MoxxMix 3 года назад

    Great. What is the temperature for washing tyvek?

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  3 года назад

      I just wash it in cold water.

    • @MoxxMix
      @MoxxMix 3 года назад

      @@jonallenoutside I was referring to washing machine water temperature. If you are too, thank you for your answer.

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  3 года назад

      Yes, washing machine water temp is cold.

    • @MoxxMix
      @MoxxMix 3 года назад

      @@jonallenoutsideThank you.

    • @RisingSunRidin
      @RisingSunRidin 3 года назад

      @@jonallenoutside did you dry it in there too?

  • @kimberlyc84
    @kimberlyc84 10 дней назад

    I'm not sure if you'll see this, but will the water not drain under the porch piece?

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  10 дней назад

      @@kimberlyc84 The porch is covered by the vestibule when the rain fly is all zipped up.

  • @giuseppebommarito5804
    @giuseppebommarito5804 5 месяцев назад

    Could you tell me what kind of tyvek do you use? because I bought already but is too thin.

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  5 месяцев назад

      I didn’t know there was more than one thickness of Tyvek.

    • @giuseppebommarito5804
      @giuseppebommarito5804 4 месяца назад

      @@jonallenoutside yes, for example tyvek pro is more thick than tyvek housewrap. Anyway thanks

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  4 месяца назад +1

      @@giuseppebommarito5804 I just used the basic housewrap.

  • @hubby-tubadventures01
    @hubby-tubadventures01 3 года назад

    Ive recently watched a prick / puncture test on this stuff and it was far better than other products. Do you know if this material degrades in strength or waterproofness after you have washed or tumbled it?

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  3 года назад +2

      I’ve been using mine for years and it’s holding up well. I have not noticed any degradation in the material. The only change I’ve seen is that it gets softer and quieter after years of use and washing.

    • @hubby-tubadventures01
      @hubby-tubadventures01 3 года назад

      @@jonallenoutside Thanks for the reply Jon, Looking at another vid re the tyvek and the chap just screws the material up by hand a couple of times. It worked too in reducing the noise. Neat product and im about to get some.

  • @johnfarthing7466
    @johnfarthing7466 8 месяцев назад

    Wind will push rain onto the footprint and it will then run under your tent floor. make the footprint slightly smaller

  • @martymcglame7781
    @martymcglame7781 Год назад +1

    I would strongly suggest washing the piece BEFORE you measure and cut it! Because it wrinkles a bit as it softens, you actually lose an inch or two over 7 or 8 feet. That can make a big difference.

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  Год назад +1

      That’s a solid suggestion. Thanks for sharing.

  • @Middleton119
    @Middleton119 3 года назад

    Tyvek Tape .... 🤙

  • @watch-Dominion-2018
    @watch-Dominion-2018 Год назад

    does putting the Tyvek in a washing machine to reduce the crinkling noise also reduce its thermal properties?

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  Год назад

      Someone would need to specifically test for this, but I doubt that what little thermal properties Tyvek has are impacted by getting wet.

    • @watch-Dominion-2018
      @watch-Dominion-2018 Год назад

      @@jonallenoutside ok cheers, and what is the main reason to use Tyvek if it has negligible thermal properties?

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  Год назад

      @@watch-Dominion-2018 It protects the bottom of your tent from rocks/sticks/thorns while also keeping it clean.

    • @watch-Dominion-2018
      @watch-Dominion-2018 Год назад

      @@jonallenoutside would the tyvek's puncture resistance be reduced as the crinkliness is reduced from putting it in a washing machine?

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  Год назад

      @@watch-Dominion-2018 I doubt it. Tyvek is very tough.

  • @HM-gk3rq
    @HM-gk3rq 2 года назад

    Did it shrink in wash?

  • @AddictOfLearning
    @AddictOfLearning 9 месяцев назад +2

    Lol tougher than a $3 steak love it

  • @timbrimm4397
    @timbrimm4397 3 месяца назад +1

    I have never seen rain come straight down

  • @dolfanrob262
    @dolfanrob262 Год назад +1

    Wouldn’t it be easier to just set the tent on the Tyvek and mark your points?

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  Год назад

      Tried it, but more difficult than it would seem.

  • @tiger2too18
    @tiger2too18 Год назад

    Presumably the Tyvek is waterproof either way round. Just printed side down to avoid seeing the printed words.

  • @kellystokes7381
    @kellystokes7381 3 года назад

    Hi Jon, can you give a little more detail on washing Tyvek? Thanks

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  3 года назад +1

      After a trip I take it in the back yard and hose it down and then hang it to dry. Does that help?

    • @kellystokes7381
      @kellystokes7381 3 года назад +1

      @@jonallenoutside I was wondering about seeing you putting it in the washing machine? I really appreciate this video and for your responses. Thanks

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  3 года назад +4

      Got it. For that part I just tossed it in the washing machine by itself on a normal cycle with no soap. Then I let it air dry. Once through the washing machine will be enough to make it softer and quieter.

    • @kellystokes7381
      @kellystokes7381 3 года назад

      @@jonallenoutside ok, perfect. Thanks again. I’m a subscriber

    • @roberthammenrudh
      @roberthammenrudh 3 года назад +1

      @@jonallenoutside at What temperature in the washer? I just bought a 43 grams tyvek to make my footprint and dont want to ruin it 😄

  • @dustyoldhat
    @dustyoldhat 2 года назад

    I have a tent

  • @nitemareman1
    @nitemareman1 3 года назад +3

    Why not just set up the tent on top of the tyvek, then using a sharpie trace it out? Your method seems to be making something simple more difficult. I'm sure if I used your method I would end up screwing it up and needing to order more tyvek! Lol

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  3 года назад +2

      That is another way to do it, but in my opinion it’s much more difficult to get an accurate measurement. I’ve tried it and with stakes and poles it’s harder than you’d think to work with a large sheet of Tyvek under the tent. But as with most things, there are many ways to get the job done.

    • @davedewitt18
      @davedewitt18 3 года назад

      Wouldn't it be okay to have a piece of tyvek a little bigger than the tent and have to get the chance set up fold over any extra underneath the tent.

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  3 года назад

      @@davedewitt18 You could, but you’d have to be very careful to fold it under in case it rains.

    • @paulmackilligin1754
      @paulmackilligin1754 Год назад

      @@davedewitt18 Yes, that's what I do, and it's fine. Just fold it under. I have none showing beyond the groundsheet though to prevent wind-blown rain getting between the Tyvek and the groundsheet. One day I will maybe cut it to the exact size - that size being slightly SMALLER than the groundsheet - but it works fine to fold it under.

  • @ididnotkilljfk861
    @ididnotkilljfk861 9 месяцев назад

    Approach a roofer on a building site as they might be willing to give you end of roll

  • @mikec.8556
    @mikec.8556 Год назад +2

    Dollar store shower curtain . Never will I buy anything that cost more . Fancy don’t get it done outdoors

    • @kimberlyc84
      @kimberlyc84 10 дней назад

      My $Store shower curtain ripped immediately. I also swept and blew the platform first, but there were still pebbles (apparently). Glad I had tarps to lay down & use.
      Only issue is I wasn't able to tell which side was facing down (gravel) & up (tent) when packing up. Even after shaking the tarps off, I'd still prefer not to put the ground side up.
      I sometimes see an odd piece of tyvek at the Habitat for Humanity ReStore. Now, I know what I can do with it.

  • @stuartsteele9984
    @stuartsteele9984 Год назад +2

    Optionally, for wind blown cold, cold rain and snow, you could create a bathtub floor without gluing corners, just provide additional material, 3 to 4 inches to rise up the insides of the tent with the tent set at ground level. That would provide a warmer environment. Some of us prefer just enough material to protect our sleeping pad and gear - lower weight and volume. We each develop an amount of ground sheet based on our personal preference, experience and potential weather. For potentially cold and cold windy weather, I use a heat reflective ground sheet.

    • @paulmackilligin1754
      @paulmackilligin1754 Год назад +1

      Yes, I like the idea of a bathtub floor shape, although in practice I find a simple flat sheet of Tyvek works perfectly well as long as NONE of it is showing beyond the edge of the groundsheet. In a storm the wind can blow the flysheet right up against the inner tent, so if even half an inch is showing beyond the groundsheet the rain will run right under the tent and you'll be lying in a cold wet puddle all night. Even if the groundsheet remains waterproof that's going to be cold!
      I guess if your tent has a high edge to the flysheet then a bathtub shape would be good, but I live in a wet and rainy part of the world, so all my tents have a flysheet that goes right down to the ground, more or less.

    • @ULperformance
      @ULperformance Год назад

      @@paulmackilligin1754 You might consider a ground sheet of heat reflective Tyvek, great for cool & cold weather, breathable, wind & water repellent/proof if DWR coated.

    • @paulmackilligin1754
      @paulmackilligin1754 Год назад

      ​@@ULperformance Thanks for the suggestion Mr Performance. I do actually have a sheet of reflective Tyvek somewhere which I have never used. A piece 2 metres x 1.4 metres I believe. I was sent it as a sample years ago. It is structurally somewhat different from Homewrap/Housewrap, as it is micro-perforated, presumably because the metallic coating would otherwise stop it breathing. Still, it is both waterproof and breathable, so I might give it a go.

    • @Clay_Maguire
      @Clay_Maguire 9 месяцев назад

      If you create a "bathtub", you will get a bath, if it rains. NO PART of your footprint should extend beyond the floor of your tent. Rain WILL find it and fill your tub. Been there, done that. 😂😂😂

    • @ULperformance
      @ULperformance 9 месяцев назад

      @@Clay_Maguire Clay, what you described was what I described. Since when does a bathtub floor exceed the interior of a tent? You apparently don’t know it’s basic function.

  • @yogi_5150
    @yogi_5150 Год назад +2

    You could have just laid the tent on the tyvek and traced it

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  Год назад

      That is a lot harder to do than it looks, but yes, that would be another way to get the job done.

  • @Itsjimmybud
    @Itsjimmybud 3 года назад +1

    Yup I thought that was a bear when the dog popped up

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  3 года назад

      There was a bear in the neighborhood a few years ago. He didn’t help with the tent footprint though.

  • @tom_olofsson
    @tom_olofsson 10 месяцев назад

    You can't have too much Tyvek.

  • @hewrichardson6638
    @hewrichardson6638 2 года назад

    .

  • @hisandherscoaching
    @hisandherscoaching Год назад

    Not trying to troll here or anything negative… but somehow ground sheet and ground cloth got into my feed. I have been on literally hundreds of campouts (car camping and backpacking) over the last 35 years. I never knew that such a thing (ground cloth) existed. and now in my feed, I see peoples videos about how “essential” Ground cloths are. that has not been my experience in the my tent floors have never been wet or damaged (and yes I have been in the rain and camped on rocks and twigs.) and then to find out how expensive they are. It just seems like a thing that has been propagated a little bit. Again, sincerely, I appreciate videos like this and I’m only bringing an opposing view for friendly chat (I don’t like when people come in, trying to tear down other people.)

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  Год назад +1

      I do occasionally camp without one. However, I do like how it keeps my tent clean and also protects from abrasion over time. I’ve recently switched to polycryo material which is super light and takes up almost no space.

    • @paulmackilligin1754
      @paulmackilligin1754 Год назад +1

      Tent manufacturers used to make groundsheets much tougher. I guess they found they could reduce the headline weight of the tent by using super-light fabric for the groundsheet, thus being able to charge more for the tent, and then charge extra for a dedicated fitted 'footprint'.

    • @seakyle8320
      @seakyle8320 4 месяца назад

      so you don´t use your tyvek anymore?!@@jonallenoutside

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  4 месяца назад

      @@seakyle8320 I only use it with my Big Agnes tent. With my ZPacks tent I use polycryo.

  • @DarkMetaOFFICIAL
    @DarkMetaOFFICIAL 2 года назад

    nice doge

  • @arts68
    @arts68 2 года назад

    Great video. But I will stick to my guns that the liner should go INSIDE the tent. It protects the floor from wear and captures any water that seeps in through seams or what ever. But if you try it, be aware that Tyvek is very slippery

    • @jonallenoutside
      @jonallenoutside  2 года назад +3

      Don’t try this at home, folks.

    • @Tanko3691
      @Tanko3691 Год назад +1

      If your tent floor is letting through water at the "seams or whatever" then time to get a new tent, and put the protector/tyvek between any rough, stony, thorny ground and the underneath of the tent floor, you see the logic in that right? If not maybe buy a camper van.

  • @daveyyc9784
    @daveyyc9784 4 месяца назад

    Seriously dont pay for this stuff. Go to any construction site and the framers and exterior guys will have loads. We go through ao many rolls of this stuff that giving someone a 5ft x 8ft piece or whatever is nothing. Unless you desire a different grade of tyvek.

  • @DanielOutdoors
    @DanielOutdoors 10 месяцев назад

    Footprints is just a waste of time and money for small tents.
    1. What you dont actually realize is that Moisture happens not only a few cm or mm from the ground but moisture raises from air. Dew is the result of water changing from a vapor to a liquid. Dew forms as temperatures drop and objects cool down. ... This forces water vapor in the air around cooling objects to condense. When condensation happens, small water droplets form-dew Therefore Mist will occurs and and condesation will not only be a thing from the ground but all over the tent, including on the inside.
    2. Never Never Never Ever in my 30 years + of experience, and life have I had a repair of a inner tent floor. If so that ever happend it is pretty easy to repair with either Tear Aid, Tape or sew it. If not send the Inner Tent inn.
    3. Inner Tents normally do that job and can also be wash inside the washing machine if it gets dirty.
    4. Footprints not only adds more weight and cost more to produce and its even harder to buy due to lack of demand.
    5. You actually point out this one, but Footprints if placed wrong can give you a horrible night if the water comes over it and into your tent. (it actually hapend to a few scouts once I had to evacuate them to go sleep into a Tipi lavvo.
    6. Speaking of Lavvo / Tipi.Here is actually the place a footprint fit better, on smaller tents? Not so much of a smart idea.

  • @jamesbowen5573
    @jamesbowen5573 6 месяцев назад

    Pretty clever until you got to the part with The graft paper. why do all that? Why don't you just lay out the tyvex put the tent on top of it, Go around to the edges to where you have it equal where you want it and then take a pair of scissors and cut out, giving it an extra inch or whatever past where the tent is?
    Life is hard enough without overcomplicating stuff complicating stuff.
    You don't need graph paper, you don't need rulers, you don't need to convert inches, And you don't need an hour extra to do it. I mean you really don't even have to set up your tent all you have to do is lay your tent on it right there in your livingroom and pull it tight On the bottom part you don't even need the top-up.
    Once you have it the right size though you might consider putting duct tape around the edge All the way around, To keep it from fraying. And if you were any holes in it from sticks or whatever it's easily repaired with duct tape or gorilla tape.
    I do like your information on where to find it on ebay. Much smarter than buying an expensive roll and having to store extra just in case you might have to use it later which you probably never will.
    I also like the vestibule floor idea. No one likes tracking in dirt or grass into their tent.
    You just have to learn to work smarter not harder. The more complicated you make any project the more chance you have for errors. I mean you mark it all out and then you cut it and if you made any kind of mistake at all you could have short sheeted yourself. Laying it out and putting the tent on top of it first is a no-brainer. You know it's the right size because you cut it to the right size provided you have the tent completely stretched out on top of it.
    I mean why take a chance? Why make it overly complicated? Stove pipe fit that bad boy

  • @septicwhelk3654
    @septicwhelk3654 2 года назад

    Nope , (1) my tent is water proof but not puncture proof or dirt proof . So make the foot print big enough to set up without getting poo on it while its flailing about !
    (2) Cheep woven laminated tarp MUCH lighter MUCH cheaper and packs smaller .

  • @snakeinthegrak8969
    @snakeinthegrak8969 2 года назад +1

    I skip all of this by just not using a tent.

  • @unsung4189
    @unsung4189 Год назад

    Always hate to criticize someones efforts BUT “your shooting a rabbit with an elephant gun” . Its simple, cut your ground cloth about 4” smaller then the bathtub of your tent and go camp… simple. Dude , ya get A for effort !